0.75 (926/1226) - still relatively new here
- mikepk
I only see my stats for the last week (17/14 = 1.21) Please tell me your 670 number is for more than just a week!
- Brian Johns
1.44 (566/391) for brianjohns (after week tally you should see a comma then 'all time' count - I can see it on your page)
- Micah Wittman
OK, sorry. I'm a total dumbass. I stopped reading after the weekly totals...
- Brian Johns
3.74, which seems way off of everybody else's. I wonder what that says. I comment a lot more than I like.
- Cyrus Lendvay
FFers use FF with their own strategy or simply default tendencies. The ratio is an interesting snapshot of behaviour. Thanks for joining in everyone, hope more keep flowing in.
- Micah Wittman
from twhirl
0.66 - I tend to 'like' things without needing to comment further, I guess, and I notice I usually like the things upon which I comment. Well, frequently.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
.39 (2457/6242) I guess I don't comment much. I do 'like' a lot of things, it would seem.
- Bren, Photophobe
0.62 then again i have over 11,000 comments
- Cee Bee
1.23 (5287/4229) - I am put to shame by Cee Bee's participation, good grief!
- Her Lindsay-ness
So far: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81 ... (if you average 1 comment per like, you'd be 1.0 ... if you're 0.xx you might herd content more than discuss ... if you're whole numbers above 1 you may not 'like' much or discuss plenty or both)
- Micah Wittman
InPerpetualMotion(Gina k), I really liked this 'Like' of yours (in a series of pics, so I flickr fav'd it): http://friendfeed.com/e... and commented. Thanks!
- Micah Wittman
.68 6986/10194 Someone wrote a great article on the comment-like ratio a few months ago. Search on FriendFeed is crashing on me... I'll try to get the link.
- Mitchell Tsai
Thanks Mitchell (btw, search crashing on me too - lots)
- Micah Wittman
1316 comments/20221 likes (0.06), according to Windows Calculator, although I probably screwed up.
- Tyson Key
A recent change in FF: now the comment count shows total number of comments (previously multiple comments in one thread only counted as one) http://friendfeed.com/e... so all the numbers above are from the old methodology....
- David HC Soul
My new ratio: 0.76 all time (old methodology .52).... this week 1.39
- David HC Soul
Looks like my ratio as flipped again (comments back to dominating again). Seems to match my own awareness I've lately been commenting without Liking (commenting is my inherent recognition of value to me and the additional Like is when it merits an extra bump to help discovery by others).
- Micah Wittman
Darn - 0.52. I guess I need to say why I like something a little more often :-) Liking this thread because I was wondering the same thing recently. Has anybody worked out the average from the numbers here? </islazy>
- Andy Bold
Andy, scroll upward and you'll see a couple calculations from before (January: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81)
- Micah Wittman
Rick, you mean that face with glasses I photoshopped tint into with an apparently disembodied arm which is actually very much attached to my eldest son? It's mostly just me :)
- Micah Wittman
Thanks, Michael. Yes, you have a rising tide of comment percentage (oh, wow, you were one of the originals from January - cool!)
- Micah Wittman
Yeah, that's a decent upward rise in comments, Nicholas.
- Micah Wittman
.6 (6,000/10,000) 3rd update - Now it's time to flip this on its head. My goal is to have (16,000/16,000) next time I post here. Regardless of what happens, I'm just looking forward to the next 10,000 comments, likes, posts, and new relationships I make here. It's all good!
- Michael Fidler
1.76 (7539/4290) My commenting habits haven't chanced much, but it felt like I clicked Like a lot less, and this ratio confirms that for me.
- Micah Wittman
.82 as of right now. edit: on January 8th it was 0.39 -- when I saw that, I decided to make more of an effort to comment. When I hit 10k "likes" I decided I wouldn't "like" anything else until I also had 10k comments.
- Bren, Photophobe
Jimminy, I'm copyrighting every single number. It's kind of a honeypot ;) Actually, it was curiosity mostly, but I also hope to build a sampling (small and self-selecting as it may be) for anyone who might want to analyze it.
- Micah Wittman
Wow I didn't realize I was so out of whack!! 12.23 that's got to be a record (and I don't even import my feeds with the summary as a comment)!!
- Chris Myles
Thanks JA, Chris (wow, 12+ is unusual :), Serkan and Nine!
- Micah Wittman
0.89 (17818/19913) (Somebody better make a cool ass graph of all this data!)
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Micah.. I told you I take my likes seriously; ). You *might* want to ask (in a separate post) what percentage of likes were used to "bookmark" a post or save it for later VS actually "liking it". I NEVER used like for that.. but I did use a private group that if filled with my own topics (and comments)..
- Chris Myles
OK, so statistically, what ratio results in better interaction on FF?
- Jason Huebel
I don't think I could argue that any particular kind of ratio is "best", because if Lurkers like to Lurk and cultivate (via Likes) and the Chatty-ites love to chat, to pump out much many more comments than Likes, each can be happy and make for a great social experience.
- Micah Wittman
So I'm fairly balanced, it appears. I would imagine it's because I try to comment on every post I like. That's not always true, obviously. But mostly it is.
- Jason Huebel
Just clicking "Like" seems too easy. I feel like I should say something, too.
- Jason Huebel
wow, what a difference time makes, when i 1st posted on this thread, 6.43%, now = 1.25%, for a 5.18% difference, :o (and this is the earliest post to date i've recovered of my activity on ff)
- chaz2b
chaz, I think there's been a big fluctuation for most people (maybe not that much). This is the oldest post on which you commented that you've recovered?
- Micah Wittman
that was my third post... It's interesting to see how the number has changed. of course, I manipulated the number to a degree, because I stopped "liking" things for a while...
- Bren, Photophobe
Bren, the other thing that can seriously throw off someone's stats is a feed that upon each item it imports adds a comment automatically.
- Micah Wittman
true. that can seriously inflate comment stats, of course. Then you have someone like RAPatton, who posts a gazillion comments, in part because of his playlist posts where he will list each song in a separate comment. I found, after this post in fact, that I tended to "like" things much more frequently than comment on them, that I was lurking instead of participating. I have changed the way I use ff rather considerably, and I think for the better.
- Bren, Photophobe
Thanks Paola, Michael, Artemko, J. and Daniel!
- Micah Wittman
1.09 (9990/9105) From and including: Saturday, April 26, 2008 To and including: Thursday, November 12, 2009 It is 566 days from the start date to the end date, end date included Or 1 year, 6 months, 18 days including the end date to reach 10,000 comments.
- Christopher Harley
The 10-ish social entrepreneurs added to Twitter's suggested follow list were a great start. Social Edge chimes in with their own 10x list.
- Eric Johnson
from Bookmarklet
"This poll will only be relevant to those of you who actually use the viewfinder of your digital camera (or those who have cameras WITH viewfinders as not all do these days) - but it comes from a conversation I had at a party a couple of weeks back with a group of friends (yes we’d had a drink or two). It started when someone asked me what eye I look through the view finder with? I’d never considered the question before (and had to actually grab a camera and take a picture to work out which eye I use). I use my right eye - but as we surveyed everyone at the party we discovered it was 60/35/5 (right/left/both). So today I thought I’d see if that were the case with a larger sample of respondents."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
Right; my eyes, as I've gotten older, have developed into separate functions (according to my opthamologist). My left eye does all the close focusing (6-18 inches) and my right eye does all the distance work; since the eyepiece of a camera is really distance images, it's the one that gets used all the time (i.e., you're not focusing on the eyepiece; you're focusing on the image beyond the camera).
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
Right eye because if I use my left eye I can't use my right hand freely. However my right eye is no longer the "good" one so I've switched to a display camera now.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Left eye. Often I frame shots with the lcd tilted to the left.
- Eric Johnson
Left which makes sense because I am left eye dominant.
- Jeff
Normally - Left (close up), Right (far away). Usually with my right when using a camera, but it shifts depending on what's occluded in my view.
- Mitchell Tsai
I always use my right eye, and I close my left. I tried leaving my left eye open, but it seems too weird for me to get used to.
- Cheryl Jones
Right, and I ALWAYS use the viewfinder. I have a point and shoot, and I've turned the LCD off, it saves batteries, and whenever anyone wants to take a shot with it they're always like 'how does it work???'. And of course, the D70s I shoot with at the moment only lets you shoot with the viewfinder.
- Will Higgins™
"Want to see what others are saying about a web page with Google’s newly released Sidewiki but don’t want to install Google Toolbar to do it? Amit at Digital Inspiration has cooked up a simple bookmarklet that lets you do just that."
- Meryn Stol
from Bookmarklet
Google ought to provide a special URL to access all sidewiki features, putting the original page in a frame. (like the digg, ow.ly toolbar and such)
- Meryn Stol
I'm waiting to see how long it takes Google to get these synced with Google Reader comments. If they can't bang that out quickly, I don't hold out much hope for them as any sort of social media hub.
- Ken Sheppardson
Yikes. The Diggbar/ow.ly iframe aspect of this is what scares me about this. I'm not a fan of Google framing site content (or in the iframe case, taking over site urls) with no opt-out.
- Eric Johnson
Eric, I'm suggesting this feature myself. It's not there atm. I think it would be handy to have access to the sidewiki interface (through a bookmarklet for example) without having to install the Google toolbar. A bookmarklet could be used to load http://sidewiki.google.com/frame... if you were viewing the page with url "abc".
- Meryn Stol
I get that, Meryn. Sidewiki as now conceived does not obscure urls. But, like the diggbar et al, it is Google putting comments and branding (and later, presumably, ads), opposite content. That's a big move, and I'm not (so far, anyway) a fan http://blog.el-studio.com/google-.... Nice to see the script to view these without the toolbar, though.
- Eric Johnson
Benefit of a complete sidwiki frame would be that I could comment myself. But maybe we'll have a dedicated Firefox extension soon. We'll see...
- Meryn Stol
"True for the moment. But the number of papers (and, with AP, the amount of original content) could decline to the point that there are not too many newspaper suppliers. That's where Chris's argument gets interesting for me. But there will still be competitors -- the blogs and politico.com's. And it's tough for me to see how newspapers will be cheap and agile enough to compete against these. More about that in my response post: http://elstudio.us/post-th... Thanks, Chris, for getting me thinking!"
- Eric Johnson
http://jezlyn.posterous.com I really like using it to feed content to my Wordpress blog and other sites at the same time. It's the only easy way I know of to e-mail posts "to" my Wordpress.com blog.
- Cheryl Jones
from BuddyFeed
Kol - it's great how one FF post can start a little movement. I've used it more today than since I signed up whenever a long time ago. Thanks.
- phil baumann
@phil couldn't you do the embed feature... ? post something to posterous.. and then 'edit' the post and paste the embed? Or maybe simply email it?
- Sean
Phil, click on the 'Share' link of the FF entry, then copy the embed code. Create a new Posterous entry, select HTML mode and paste in the embed code. You'll need to edit the width and height (looks like 500 for width). Then post. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Don't forget to tag your posts like this ((tag: posterous, friendfeed)) in the subject line of your emails. That way your posts will be seen easier by all other Posterous users when they use the global posterous search.
- Svartling
Kol, yes I see.. I added it, I guess Twitter does not have anything but javascript and flash widgets.. It doesnt matter, since I autopost to twitter there is a button there..
- David Gross
from email
How do you all add the little twitter and friendfeed images with links to your profiles here on posterous. I don't know the code to do that. :( Help when u can.
- Amani
http://mylescrew.posterous.com/ Right now I'm just testing, the import from Blogger was REALLY easy. I'm trying to "port" BlurbBits (http://ff.im/4tlY2) to make them work better on posterous. The iframe style parameter gets removed, which is different than Blogger (there is *always* something).
- Chris Myles
Amani, the little images for twitter etc you get if you autopost to those sites but you might end up with duplicate posts that way. There is a friendfeed badge you can put in your posterous profile at http://friendfeed.com/embed... use the image format, not javascript.
- David Gross
from email
Check out Wayne Suttons Posterous (he posted his URL in this thread). You see that he has changed some colors. That is a private beta feature that is coming soon to the public.
- Svartling
http://lizasperling.posterous.com/ Thanks - you are making this a very helpful Sunday:) AND for those of you trying to embed other images, etc...I did it in my profie and mash in friendfeed, zemanta, gmail, wisestamp,etc..FUN - happy to help.
- Liza
YOU are a great example of engaging followers and using tools to help us connect in many other ways. THANK YOU.
- Liza
the usual: bigstarlet.posterous.com. I use it as alternative picture posting device to Pixelpipe and also as an alternative to Ping.fm. Thanks for subbing to me there, Kol. :)
- Helen Sventitsky
@koltregaskes, my posterous is at http://alexschleber.posterous.com "Quick Hits Business Mindhacks". Had been using it quite a bit the first 6 months of this year. I'm a big fan of Garry & Sachin, but really wish posterous would hurry up with some of the much needed feature upgrades (skins and/or CSS, Retweet button - just use Tweetmeme, custom sidebar HTML, WYSIWIG bookmarklet, etc.) Seems like they're stalling a bit right now, no?
- Alex Schleber
They have to be careful not to mess with the simplicity of it, though; that's why so many people like it. If they tart it all up, it might as well just be Tumblr. Which already exists.
- Megen
from email
@koltregaskes weird that you're "what's your GReader/Posterous/FB?" entries from the last few days seem to presage in a way what happened today..
- Alex Schleber
Keep 'em coming, I'll add you all later today. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Thank God for this thread. I'm going to (slowly) subscribe to all the people I'm subbed to on FF. I have a hunch posterous is going to replace part of the puzzle for me. Thanks Kol.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I tried a post asking everyone to share their Google Reader shared items link, but I guess I don't have many followers. Maybe you can?
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
My url is http://dave6.posterous.com I just tried out the "((nogallery))" feature that lets you post pictures not in gallery format by putting ((nogallery)) in email subject http://dave6.posterous.com/where-d... only problem is that it takes a while to load pictures if not using really high-speed internet.
- David Gross
from email
"We think most other reports on the news missed a key point, too, though. Everyone focused on the new option for shared messages to be publicly visible outside the constraints of a Facebook user's friends network - people called it a shot at the wide open paradigm of Twitter. In fact, the biggest change may be that sharing options are becoming much more granular - more human."
- Eric Johnson
This is an interesting article and I think that not only should facebook be clear about its privacy options but it could also make editing settings & other stuff on facebook more user friendly. It can take a while to work out how to turn something off or on and there is a minimum of info to guide people. facebook obviously know what they are doing but the truth is they are serving a very large public & they may need to remember that. Thanks for the post! Pemo Theodore, AstraMatch Blog
- Pemo Theodore
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
I agree about Apple's fear of losing control of the iPhone to Google's services. But the address book (ie the social network) is special. http://elstudio.us/post-ba...
- Eric Johnson
Will the people who market like this even be called "marketers"? Not sure I see tv's centralized market replaced by something centralized like this.
- Eric Johnson
http://www.google.com/reader... I'm glad you asked this right now. I just realized that several people are following me and I didn't even know it. I hope it hasn't been this way for long!
- Michael Fidler
Just noticed that Reader now allows grouping of people you follow! Wondering: is Reader going to become a competitor (instead of complement) to FriendFeed?
- Chris Rogers
@rogersdc / Chris, Google Reader is obviously been trying to become more social, but I'd really like to see FF come out with a bookmarklet that makes sub'ing RSS feeds to FF easier/faster. Right now it's a manual process involving either a new Group/Room or Imaginary Friend. Should be 2 clicks tops.. Also see: http://friendfeed.com/alexsch...
- Alex Schleber
Here is mine : http://www.google.fr/reader.... I share (mainly on French sites and blogs) about libraries, literature and arts, human and social sciences, photography :-)
- Nadine Pestourie
LOL here we go again :o) http://www.google.com/reader... I share a lot of blogs and funny stuff that I read, it's neat how I can share and it gets posted all over by friendfeed.
- David Gross
http://www.google.com/reader... - I share items about productivity, gaming, movies, and misc. stuff from the Google "cool" via Recommendations feed. Thanks Kol for starting this thread because I've been trying to cut down on the number of feeds I subscribe to and instead just follow interesting people.
- Dusty Edenfield
Svartling: good point about adding people to groups. I noticed I couldn't comment on items that were shared by some users.
- Dusty Edenfield
I've (we) written a lot of more good tips on how to use Google Reader in Google Reader comments. It's too bad we don't have permalinks in Greader so we can share our notes and comments. Otherwise I could have posted a link here. Here are some on friendfeed: http://friendfeed.com/svartli...
- Svartling
The conversation is really blowing up (in a good way) on Reader. The most important reminder currently is to set up groups and allow commenting. That is NOT on by default!
- Vince DeGeorge
Thank you all. I think I have subscribed you all now (except those feed in languages I don't understand) Here is mine again: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Svartling
I've started to follow a few of the people here but there's quite a few, so will take me a while :) - My currently fairly bare feed is: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Roy Herrod
There are a few entries here you might like to read to help you. This one: http://ff.im/6CkQj explains about adding people to groups to allow them to comment and why some don't stay in groups. In this one: http://ff.im/6F9pQ I suggest a way to track a large number of shared items using PostRank. This: http://ff.im/6Ci0P and this: http://ff.im/6AM35 has a few tips on using GReader as a lifestreaming service. And this: http://ff.im/6EMT1 gives a few examples of GReader bundles.
- Kol Tregaskes
Those of you above whom I already follow on FF/Twitter/etc., I've subscribed to your feeds. As for the rest of you: if you follow me on GReader, I'll follow you back.
- Dennis Jernberg
I'm sharing some pages now, including a few of my past blog entries.
- Dennis Jernberg
Because I have issues with data duplication, I have merged this list with the google reader shares room feeds. You can view the Google spreadsheet at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc...
- Rob Diana
There are a bunch of shared feeds that I could not resolve the Google username for because they did not have a named profile set up.
- Rob Diana
tristanhambling, your link didn't work. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
It would be really handy to have all these shared feeds as an opml file. Has anyone added everyone? Care to export an opml of the shared feeds?
- Paul Jacobson
I'm http://www.google.com/reader... Not really comfortable with the custom URL though since it can only be your gmail username. Makes it really easy for spamspiders I think.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Tobias, possibly but not had any problems myself though Gmail has the best spam filters around so I probably not noticed. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... mostly webdev, photography news, music, world news which i get interested. plus half of them may be article in Japanese. sorry. :-p
- browneyes
http://www.google.com/reader... - OK I'm in. Late as always. Will post my thoughts, feedback and pleading requests for help over in Google Reader so please follow me over there. Eat your own dog food and all that.
- Andy C
MF/Kol = I live in Kingston on Thames. It's OK apart from the traffic (continually gridlocked) and the shops (girls just lurve them). Handy for getting into London both airports and out to the Thames Valley for work type things. Richmond Park and the river in walking distance is great too.
- Andy C
Andy, Richmond Park and the others around there are the appeal really. Good place to go photographing and cycling while being very close to London I think.
- Kol Tregaskes
Teddington (across the river from Kingston Upon Thames, is where I think I'd like to live. Just 'cos it's cheaper than everywhere else around it. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol many years ago, we made the mistake of asking an estate agent in Surbiton whether it was any cheaper than Kingston. She replied 'No - of course not. We are on the fast line to Waterloo' and looked at us as if we were dog excrement.
- Andy C
I've checked rental prices in the area several times over the last 2 years and Teddington is definitely cheaper. I'm not buying, no way I can afford that. ;-) All a pip-dream anyway, need a steady job and I've not had that for a while. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
anyone use google reader on windows mobile professional? I cant seem to get it to work and when I try to go to the mobile site it takes me to the regular site.
- David Gross
Nope, sorry can't help you there, David.
- Kol Tregaskes
"Following Facebook’s acquisition of FriendFeed, a lot of users in that community were up in arms. Basically, everyone was quick to jump to the conclusion that FriendFeed, as we knew it, was dead. And with the comments immediately following the deal, the parties on both sides did little to change that line of thinking, basically saying things along the lines of “we’ll see.” Many users were threatening to leave the service immediately, turning them into yes, FFugees. Well, now that the FriendFeed team is successfully in their new Facebook office and working to get up to speed on their new site, Steve Gillmor got a chance to catch up with FriendFeed co-founder Paul Buchheit, and to ask him some of the questions that Mike didn’t touch on too much during his interview with Buchheit last week. Warning, the video below is quite long (over 50 minutes) and free-flowing at points, so I’ll summarize some of the key things said first."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
Still nothing very concrete from the notes anyway. Oh well, I'm just going to continue as normal. But sounds like very little new stuff will appear on FriendFeed for a while. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
OK, this is the first truly substantive interview by anyone from the FriendFeed team since the acquisition. A MUST-READ, largely somewhat reassuring re: the future of the service beloved by many of us.. oh, and how in hell is this not on Best of Day yet ?!?!?!?!?! You gotta be kidding, after all of the howling and gnashing of teeth last two weeks, one would think that people are hungry for this information. Must be a 5 stages of grief thing: 4 - depression..
- Alex Schleber
Must be the slightly insider-joke-ish title and post image that has people unduly ignoring this, anyway, I don't care that it's Summer, Saturday, or #Gnomedex...FriendFeeders, vote this up!
- Alex Schleber
+1 "On the topic of the fears some FriendFeed users have about still using the service because their data may just disappear if FriendFeed does, Buchheit notes that if anything, the Facebook acquisition has lowered the chances of that happening. He says that in the big picture, it’s so little data, and takes very little to support. And Facebook is a huge, secure company now. (He is, of course, alluding to the fact that FriendFeed was in a much less stable position in the market.)"
- Eric Johnson
"We use Macs at my house because Mobile Me keeps the family address book in sync. So yesterday, when Apple answered the FCC's questions about rejecting the Google Voice app for the iPhone, this paragraph caught my eye..."
- Eric Johnson
I blame Louis for the proliferation of this style of blogging (relationship letters). It's a lot harder for someone like me to extract the feedback from this as opposed to him just saying: 1) You want me to create groups, but don't show them to me in Reader 2) Do all people subscriptions have to be connected to Google contact manager 3) ?
- Jenna Bilotta
we are working on some of this stuff, but we prefer to release early and often and some features that seem reasonable are just bits that haven't quite been built yet for one reason or the other.
- Jenna Bilotta
I think the confusion I have seen here and in other articles stems mostly from people who are familiar with FriendFeed and are curious as to how much overlap with Reader they should expect. I find Reader to be fantastic, but I'm not looking for it to be my social network. Another similar article to Rob's is this one: http://shegeeks.net/google-...
- Louis Gray
On the flip side, it seems clear that if LG uses GReader to share your GR rant, you can be reasonably sure that someone on the GR staff will read it :P
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Jenna, I have not had enough sleep lately :) I tried to be somewhat clear when I was making the real point, but as usual failed to balance it. Basically, groups should be more directly obvious in google reader and maybe used within the interface as well. Using Contacts as the starting point and then having no reference to them (except in settings) makes it really confusing.
- Rob Diana
And by the way, I really love Google Reader. Just check how many shares I throw around on any given day :)
- Rob Diana
The other main point I was trying to make was that trying to integrate other google services like contacts can really confuse things, and even start people down the path of Google wanting to own everything.
- Rob Diana
Rob - agreed. I'd say we are at the mid-way point for making group editing and use much much more robust without leaving Reader. (and I know contact manager is working on improvements as well). Thanks for the post, tho, and the feedback!
- Jenna Bilotta
On the flipside of that, though, is that if you have all of your "people" or connection information in a centralized service, getting started quickly with content from people you care about on new services (or on old services in new ways) demonstrates immediate value. The android/latitude integration is just one example, but since I got my Gcontacts in order and sync them all to my...
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- Jenna Bilotta
Well, centralization/decentralization is an argument in computing that constantly goes back and forth. Both have benefits and issues. I think part of the problem is that Contacts needs work and Reader needs better group integration. If both happen, then you would probably get the benefits that you mention. However, given that Reader is evolving more into a social networking application,...
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- Rob Diana
I think what you describe is a mental model shift, fundamentally. Did you know that when you follow someone in Reader who doesn't make their contact information public, that person's info is stored in the Google contact manager as a reference URL only? Maybe it's a nomenclature issue, but the contact manager is becoming so much more than actually contacting people. It's a way to manage connections to people (and info) you care about. And yes, it needs to be better and so does Reader's links into it. :)
- Jenna Bilotta
Jenna - Great to see Google Reader innovating so quickly! Fine with me to trade some rough edges for quick progress...
- Eric Johnson
Jenna - Interesting. Could Reader be a bit smarter about how it adds folks to gcontacts -- at least if they've got a public profile? Right now Reader adds a gmail email address. Not name. Not nickname. Not shared google reader url, or profile url. So I'm left with gcontact orphans -- because nothing I know these folks by has made it into gcontacts.
- Eric Johnson
Rob - That's what groups are *for*. One could, theoretically, place everyone who you share with into one contact group and your Reader contacts would be separate from your email contacts. Jenna - Reader has so many great features already, so I have to say that I am totally satisfied as-is. There are a couple of additions which would be (extra) icing on the cake though, so some of my...
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- Californian
holy cow! You made a doc! That's totally awesome! (sending it to team.)
- Jenna Bilotta
Californian, I understand the idea of grouping all of my Reader contacts into one group, as that is what I am doing right now, but it seems to only be a partial solution. As Jenna has said, they are not done, so I am just waiting to see how they continue to improve. If you are looking for people to follow, there have been several FriendFeeders sharing their feeds, and I dumped them into a spreadsheet at https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc...
- Rob Diana
Jenna - I'm thrilled that you read it! I hope it was helpful. :)
- Californian
Rob - Maybe I don't understand what you mean by group integration. I'm looking forward to the improvements, too, but I don't see how contacts can improve much more. Thanks for that link. That's quite the list!
- Californian
Californian, my thinking is that if we are using groups from contacts, then the group itself should be part of the google reader interface. So, under the "People You Follow" section, you would see the group names (like folders), and you could expand the groups to see the users. Of course I leave it up to the Reader team to do something awesome.
- Rob Diana
Rob, we do show you your groups, under "sharing settings" but only the groups you check there will show up when you are editing an individual person. more to come.
- Jenna Bilotta
Jenna, I did see the sharing settings stuff. I am just waiting to see what you can do to improve. No, I am not waiting patiently :)
- Rob Diana
Hmmm. Jenna, it's the "I'm not a fan of" that I'm not a fan of, because I find it ambiguous in a confusing, rather than an interesting, complex, way. Why not just say, "I don't like?"
- Amy℠
@amy - confused. what are you referring to?
- Jenna Bilotta
Oh now I get it! Yes, that *does* make sense. I added it to the request doc. :) Jenna - even if Rob won't be patient, I will! It's only possible to go so fast; there have been a lot of features added recently. Keep up the awesome work, and I'm sure even Rob won't be to mad about waiting!
- Californian
I've always loved GReader. My #1 gripe after it became social is duplicates within shared items. The #1 wish list item is to allow mapping folder shares to contact groups.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
I have worked out in my own 'People you follow' why gReader (GR) keeps dropping the groups. Its because I had them stored twice in gContacts (GC). As @Jenna says above GR stores them as a reference URL only. If you look at the bottom of your GC you will have lots of 'unnamed contact' with a link to a google profile. This profile is a number only, but if you cut n paste, it takes you to...
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- Jez Arnold
@jez If you've added someone that doesn't make their name public, you'd get anonymous. But if you can visit the profile URL stored in the unnamed contact and see the name, that's a bug. (we'll look into it if so.) Related: Do you also use an andriod phone? (i had several unnamed contacts that I eventually realised were being created there)
- Jenna Bilotta
By the way: for heavy lifting you can use the standalone version of the contact manager to work with your groups if you don't want to load all of gmail at contacts.google.com
- Jenna Bilotta
@jenna.. i do use an android phone (but solved that issue last week!) To be fair the people I added who I saw in GC were not anonymous. Its people who are generally named above! it seemed to be a double entry - ie Rob Diana was /profiles/112624749923167968448 as well as /profiles/robdiana .. once i realised who they were by following the link, i merged the two and now GR works fine. its just time consuming.
- Jez Arnold
@jenna.. thinking about it. I did go through to several people who were *JUST* numbers and no profile name (which everyone has worked out is the gmail address)
- Jez Arnold
Brenna Holms details how the California State Parks Foundation’s Facebook Fan Page grew from 517 fans as of May 31, 2009 to over 45,000 fans today.
- Eric Johnson
"Google Contacts seems like a dumping ground for anyone that has ever had any sort of contact with you. It is seriously high maintenance, and I am not a fan of high maintenance." - Yup. And Google Contacts in that way is also pretty Facebook friends-like. (which I do not mean as a complement)
- Meryn Stol
+1 Meryn. But with a much more raw user experience than Facebook right now. For example: let's say you do add somebody to a group so they can see your comments. (Best done standing on one foot, btw.) Guess what gets added to your Gmail address book? Their gmail email address. Fair enough. But not their name. Not their shared items URL. Not even the nickname shown in Reader.
- Eric Johnson
The Google Reader folks are clearly working hard to exploit the FriendFeed-Facebook uncertainty. But it's not always pretty!
- Eric Johnson
Hmm... I'm not sure if the Reader team's behavior is opportunistic. It's a quite natural progression for them. They can't help to be inspired by both Facebook and FriendFeed, they're users of these services themselves. You're right that on Facebook, things are much better integrated. Google lacks central coordination of all the efforts. They should make a position for their own "Zuckerberg". The social world is quite far apart from both "apps" and "search".
- Meryn Stol
I didnt really want to add everyone i know on friendfeed to my facebook, i like to keep them seperate as much as i can. but you know what, fuck it http://www.facebook.com/simon... add a note saying you;re from friendfeed if you add me, then i can group everyone up :)
- Simon Wicks
Thanks, Simon. I've not started going through these yet. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm only going to add the people i actually talk to on here. I have a lot less people on my follow list than you, so its a bit easier for me :)
- Simon Wicks
Remember, guys. According to FB, you're only allowed 5000 friends. Spend them wisely.
- James Myatt
As if we weren't before? Were they really that many people here who didn't also have a FB account, even if they didn't list it in their profile? I've been with FB since 2004
- LANjackal
Well, with this news it is pushing me to start using my real name for web services and to kill (or at least slowly stop using) the tomit persona that I have used for many years. Find me here... http://www.facebook.com/ronaldb...
- tomit
FF better figure out how not to destroy themselves (if possible) with this merger. Friendfeed in the FB interface will not work. I think FF really just f*cked themselves.
- Ethan
I'm on Facebook, but I don't have a name in my profile URL (yet; I'm still new...). But if you want it, it's http://www.facebook.com/profile... -- if you friend me, tell me you're from FF.
- Dennis Jernberg
I don't freaking have one because I never wanted to sign up for Facebook. :P Now I find out that through no fault of my own I'm technically a Facebook user? GAH.
- Cheryl Jones
http://facebook.com/alex.covic - I will friend everybody - for those of you concerned with friend/family + privacy = you can create lists (just like ff-groups) to keep FF-users in a different corner;-).
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
I do not use it much LOL I just post to it from other sites so to fill up my friends stream, I do get messages and some status in text. Anyone who really wants to add me, use the facebook link on my profile. :o)
- David Gross
www.facebook.com/drodzand you won't see much since I got the privacy settings on max in Facebook. Just another reason why I think Facebook is completely different from friendfeed. I hope they keep friendfeed running because I use both services in diametrically diverse ways.
- David Rodriguez
http://www.facebook.com/kimbers... (I can remember if I commented on this already. I don't see "You" on the list, but I'm tired. So, hopefully, I didn't. If I did, oh well.
- Kimber Scott