That's pretty big of him. I have a dedicated window of FriendFeed up on its own monitor, so I guess that's big of me :)
- Bwana ☠
I've got alltop and FriendFeed set as my default home pages (tabs) right now. Liking it a lot. Only wish that FriendFeed links targeted new window/tab by default.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I wish all of these sites had filters and/or levers so that I can prioritize the flow.
- Steve Rubel
Bwana you make me wish I had a second monitor!
- Corvida
Steve, that's good feedback. You should pass that on to the FF guys. Maybe a hierarchy of sources, or a show/hide source feature. All in all, filtering is a good idea in general.
- Bwana ☠
Can't wait for FF API's and a desktop client which updates in real time a la Twhirl.
- Matthias Zeller
My friends and the A-listers (via friendfeed.com) offer me a great mix of my daily vitamins that keep me healthy and strong all day long!
- Aaron Holverson
I only lost 74 followers, most of whom I wasn't planning on following back anyway.
- Morton Fox
For some reason, I lost a lot of normal folks and kept the spammers...
- Chris Reed
Down to 436 of 564. I check who is following me. Obvious spammers are blocked and I check everryone. My followers were valuable to me. Switching to FriendFeed exclusively.
- Matthew Sibenik
from twhirl
I read some more on this and apparently the spam filter was too aggressive. Hey I know, how about leave it up to each account to determine if they want a spam filter. Or how about deleting the spammers themselves.
- Andrew Baron
You're wrong about the spammer count. This isn't a spammer solution. It's flat-out DB corruption.
- Louis Gray
Looks like i lost just a little over 100. Cool.
- Andru Edwards
I check myself and block. When someone follows me I review their tweets and website, if its marketing I block.
- Matthew Sibenik
I somewhat agree with you Andrew - let the users filter their own spam. The issue I had was when someone started following me, I got an email (bacn), when meant I had to see if they appeared to be a bot or human. Twitter's approach to following a massive amount of people might have been enough on this one.
- Otto R. Radke
According to the Twitter blog, it IS related to spamming also. from the Twiter alerts: "Even after this recovery is complete, your counts may appear lower than previously. In almost all cases, this is not due to missing data. The counts we display on your profile page are not always up-to-date. For example, when we remove spammers from the system (which we’ve been doing a lot lately),...
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- Andrew Baron
"Update We just received an update on the situation from Biz Stone, over at Twitter. He writes, "Some users lost followers as a result of an error during a database upgrade. We replaced followers last night and will be replacing followers today. This is not related to the spam initiative we blogged about the other day." At least Twitter is hard at work trying to remedy the situation." ---- per http://news.cnet.com/8301-13...
- Susan Beebe
As you can see from the two comments above this one, there are mixed messages coming out of the same camp.
- Andrew Baron
i lost 600 followers.. which i don't care about. i do care about losing 20 people i follow. don't know who they were but if they were people i wanted to see, i don't understand why i can't see them regardless of whether system heuristics say to twitter that they were spammers.
- mary
Sonciary: Twitter restore today added back 59 followers for me, but it also deleted 9 followers...and 2 of those were legit! I wish Twitter would warn us (like putting SPAM in a folder before deleting).
- Mitchell Tsai
from twitter - twitter We've restored 99.6% of following/followers that disappeared. numbers & profile pics in sidebar may not be accurate until tomorrow afternoon
- johnpiercy
from twhirl
We definitely want feedback. I literally had six versions of the algorithm running in parallel, and this is the best one according to our qualitative assessment, but we need more data to really improve it. Let me know if you see too much of something or missed something you think is important - it will help me debug quality issues.
- Bret Taylor
@scobleizer: It also does a bit of what you want for individual services as well. Here are the best Twitters from the past day: http://friendfeed.com/summary.... Click the service icons to restrict the "best of" view to a single service. It doesn't let you send the link out to anyone since it is entirely personalized, nor is it the generalized search interface you described, but it is a step in that direction.
- Bret Taylor
Also looks like the date can go from 1 thru 30. greater than 30 reverts to 30
- Atul Arora
Bret: that's very cool. It's amazing how few things I actually have missed. But, this will be useful to check in on. One thing I do wish it had was "big things since last time you were here."
- Robert Scoble
Next? I'd love to have a way to see a true reverse-chronological view of the "Everyone" feed, but let me filter by "n" Likes and "n" Comments.
- Robert Scoble
How about, do a time stamp of the last time Robert logged in, and every hour afterward, do a screen capture of every single update from everybody he follows, save it as a massive PDF file, and send it to him via e-mail attachment. Repeat every 60 minutes.
- Louis Gray
perfect! now i only need to convince most of my friends to update their webbrowse behavior. most of them still didnt make the jump too rss and sharing is done mostly by skype :(
- Chris Hofmann
Great addition. I'd also like to see it applicable at the individual user level.
- Mark Krynsky
Been really looking forward to this since seeing it mentioned on "The Dan Farber Show"! In typical FF style, great feature with simple, clear implementation. Yummy!
- Matt Harwood
This is very cool. As soon as they provide an Atom feed of this, it'll be the most kickass service ever.
- Eric Florenzano
hmmm, this is my top post. Nice one
- Andrew Smith
This is a great addition, shows that they are listening to what people want!
- Joe Dawson
Very nice feature, for me, given the addiction, I suspect the "day" one will be the most used to make sure I didn't miss anything good. :)
- felix
Bret: Yeah!! Great feature!! I've been waiting for this one! woo hoo! :)
- Susan Beebe
Feedback: 1-day, 3-day, and 7-day look pretty good. 14-day and 30-day summaries seem swamped by the last 7 days (Maybe searches in 10-30-days should have older items weighted heavier than in 1-3-7 day summaries). Awesome! This really helps with the "Page 11" (Search past #300-399 fails design). My Friends feed (of 149 people) only goes back about 4 hrs. Everything past that is lost... Wish my regular Friends feed would save 24+ hrs. Nice job Bret!
- Mitchell Tsai
ooh, what's this? ok, same thing I already talked about. awesome!
- Kamilah Gill
Bret, you are an absolute genius. Every time I hear you speak (or write) I am just more and more impressed.
- Alex Hammer
Search by service for Top 100 YouTube pictures, Blog articles, Google Reader/Del.icio.us articles, Last.fm songs... We can search for "&service=picasa&num=100", "&service=flickr", "&service=blog", "&service=googlereader","&service=delicious" See http://friendfeed.com/e... for multiple Top 100 searches from the past 1-2-3-7-14-30 days.
- Mitchell Tsai
Hmm.. And this is the first item in my personalized recommendations? I guess it works :)
- Dimitri Glazkov
What's very VERY cool is that service filters work with this as well http://friendfeed.com/e.... EDIT: I just saw Mitchell already posted this feature. I should have known, he's always on top of these things :)
- Bwana ☠
Nice, that was the thing to do. I hope to get something like that for Twitter and I think it's still possible to make.
- fbrunel
I bet FF hires Mitchell to code up queries!! LOL good stuff here Bret & Mitchell!!
- Susan Beebe
@Bret: I'm sad you don't support APML.
- directeur
Susan: I'm just too lazy (and retired May 2007). Now I code in Excel & FriendFeed (rather than Fortran 66 & Cobol). I just bookmark my own FriendFeed posts in Safari & Firefox rather than make too many Safari bookmark-sub-menus. Getting too lazy to write HTML or LAMP. ;-) Headed to Yosemite in a few days after the Harmony Festival this weekend - Robert Scoble's Ansel Adams visit was too tempting :0)
- Mitchell Tsai
Awaiting for more kick-ass features from FF! Great work!
- Winston Teo
This is great Bret. FF keeps getting better.
- Michael Carter
Hmmm. If the list of most popular posts contains only posts which I have liked, commented on or clicked through, does that make me the most popular friendfeeder ever? ;-)
- Slappy Line
Are there plans to extend "best of" to FF rooms? Depending on the number of members and activity, that could be really interesting.
- Tom Landini
This is so incredibly awesome. FriendFeed just returned to the same level of utility (for my usage patterns) as before the launch / noise onslaught. :-)
- Kevin Scott
awesome, thats useful! now i need direct messages, go one
- Alexander Oelling
I find it interesting on how this feature is at the top of "best of the month." Seems kinda pointless.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Finally back on a full computer after a nearly two-week absence (no, I didn't go to Peru, I went to Alabama). Looks nice.
- Ontario Emperor
Great addition! Next feature request: let me filter by people I really know vs. people I just like to follow so I can see what my "real" friends are doing at a glance.
- Dave Hanson
i see the benefits, but also the problems behind it. (not saying one should not try!) It would also switch intentions. people do not post answers to you if you blog about something, but they will post because famous person X has shared that for example and they answered to *that* person. putting the comments to the 'original' changes the intent. so a listing like that would need to make a tree out of that.
- Nicole Simon
I think additional aggregation would be nice, but you'd open up a can of worms. For example, I often click like on the first one I see it, then may add it to my SU or other services. who get's the top spot? the one where it first hit Friendfeed which in some cases may be through twitter because they are pulled more often?
- Nicole Simon
www.friendfeedmachine.com goes some way towards alleviating this problem, with some more features due in a few days, especially around aggregation - via FriendFeedMachine
- Scott Goldie
Both :) IMO link-centric presentation is preferable, assuming of course UI and work flow related issues at the point of adding a link to FF directly are nicely resolved.
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
I think I'd prefer person-centric but link-centric is interesting too. I see link centric as a personalised memetracker...
- Andy Davies
+1 for person centric filtering first
- Alex Gawley
i prefer link-centric since it would clean up FF.. but thinking that rather than accumulating events like 'Shared on Google Reader' or 'bookmarked on Delicious', it should be shown as 'Likes' on the original feed. If there is some value add, like Comments or Tweets, only then, show it as an event.
- Vishy
@shakeel - i think the purpose of 'person centric' is to group all of a single person's activities as they relate to a specific URL into a single entry. As such FF doesn't do that right now.
- Alex Gawley
I prefer link-centric. it would be great to centralize the conversation. There should be a priority tree, though. Blog>Google Reader>Delicious...etc. The item with the higher priority goes first.
- Alejandro
Person-centric could be used in the user's own list of activities.
- Alejandro
Whatever you call it, I want to be able to see what the content is about. Just don't tell me Person X has bookmarked a page on Site Y. I need to know the title.
- Mike Reynolds
I think link-centric is intriguing. An organic techmeme, built directly on users' actions and transparent. Biggest concern with centralizing activity under one link is the echo-chamber effect that could result. I suspect that can be managed - e.g. the meme is set up in a separate tab, away from the flow of friends' updates.
- Hutch Carpenter
I would always vote for link-centric. If somebody else shares it...add it into the comments.
- Chris Nixon
Person-centric is probably a better user experience, but link-centric is very attractive to content producers. Especially if they can search for links to their domain.
- engtech
One thing I would *love* is if FF unrolled tinyurls, feedburner links, etc. That would be necessary for link-centric
- engtech
I like the exploration of ideas. However, I echo @HutchCarpenter's concern regarding the echo-chamber. Would my friendfeed be cluttered? Woulid I have to wade through gigantic posts such as this one where a ton of people have shared, liked, or commenting on the same link? Would I lose my current feeling of community if I was sucked into a massive conversation? Would interesting tid-bits get lost and scrolled by to fast by these compilations of linking behaviour?
- Seek Ground
I have concerns about the merging of different comment streams (in the link-centric model). The same item from different people will have different subsets of people commenting, depending on the poster's friends. Different people will see different comments depending on their friend graph, their hiding preferences, etc., thus it would be hard to maintain a coherent conversation.
- Mihai Parparita
Great idea - and it should be user-configurable all over the place. I post links to every article I write for InformationWeek in at least three places that FriendFeed picks up. As a FriendFeed producer, I should be able to configure my FriendFeed to designate which item is authoritative for duplicate links. And as a consumer I should be able to designate which source is authoritative for *others'* FriendFeeds, as well as whether to filter on a per-user or per-link basis (i.e. do I see same link from 2+ ppl)
- Mitch Wagner
To the FriendFeed folks. While you do listen to us, please also feel free to ignore us. Overall, I'm quite happy with the FF UI. I also trust that you're smarter than me and I look forward to the FFFuture.
- Mike Reynolds
I would love this!! Its a must have these days! Even I would go one more step further and say, it should combine same URL from more than one party (say person X and Y both dug same URL, why should discussion/comment/likes be different??) and combine them all!
- Jigar Mehta
cool idea, then it become a question of aggregating based on link vs. description, and it is nice to have all comments in one place. however, would it increase backend requirements that could slow ff down? i love the reliability and speed of ff now, (unlike twitter).
- Pokai
Well, in a way this will decrease the load on the system.. Imagine 100 duplicate stories being commented and liked (ff servers will get to maintain all of them and load them when user requests).. And also I, as a user will get to see more proper items on my page! (Say for example, i am not interested in a particular story which is shared by three different people in my network, I will...
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- Jigar Mehta
Well thought out and illustrated. Person-centric extends the current FF experience. Link-centric would make me feel like FF is turning into something like Digg...
- tagami
These are both great ideas. I'm not really sure whether I'd prefer the person-centric or link-centric models (maybe that should be a user preference?) but I do feel either one would help a lot with the duplication.
- Jason Wehmhoener
amen. especially with resharing going on. Hell, I wouldn't have had to write this comment twice if that were the case!
- Tim Hoeck
How about making it group-centric? Every additional person that submits the same link is added to the "likes" list... and just keep comments fragmented
- Rafael Robayna
Glad you used the Bookmarklet to post this link, haha.
- Eric Florenzano
OMG, you poor thing. You have to use Safari?
- Cyndy
Meta meta meta meta mushroom mushroom...so if you DO write about rooms next, will you create a room for the post? :) Seriously, I haven't used or installed the bookmarklet, but the post was very instructive.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
So far I don't get the idea of sharing something just on friendfeed. What's the advantage over publishing an item in my tumblelog (or even my blog) and importing the feed to friendfeed (besides the possibility of having pictures included in the friendfeed feed)?
- Alexander Ebel
If you're already in FriendFeed, it may be easier to share it there. But if you have 1000 StumbleUpon friends and only 100 FF friends, then sharing only in FF offers no benefits.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
tumblr offers a fine bookmarklet, too. And at least at the moment I guess more people would find access to a tumblelog easier than to friendfeed. Sharing over the tumblr bookmarklet publishes the item on the tumblelog AND on friendfeed - so why should I drag another bookmarklet to my bookmark bar (where two del.icio.us buttons are already waiting, too...)?
- Alexander Ebel
I'm 90% more likely to look at a share if it has an image. It's like a mini blog post. With this in mind, the bookmarklet is the way to go.
- Vince DeGeorge
IMO it's up to the friendfeed developers to make showing up images in imported feeds an option.
- Alexander Ebel
agreed the Tumblr bookmarklet is wonderful
- Jamie
In the general case it's hard for FF to find which images are content, unless there's a Media RSS feed. I was reminding FF developers every so often about MRSS since I wanted it to work for OurDoings, but now that I'm using the API. When people first post stuff to OurDoings it's not always in final form. Now people get it ready first and send it out via the API the same way they were already sending it out by email. So I'm no longer in a hurry for MRSS feeds to work on FF. Somebody else bug them. :-)
- Bruce Lewis
I'm getting to where I prefer to use the bookmarklet over using link-ups from other sites like Google Reader, Mento, del.icio.us, etc.
- Akiva Moskovitz
so I'm interested in what interactions you guys are showing for last.fm, is it only when you 'love' something? p.s. would love it if you guys added muxtape as an official import'able service, I've added mine as a feed :) probably the best user experience i've seen in awhile, worth supporting!
- karl dotter
i'd really like it if last.fm charts could be displayed in here.
- Nathan Eckenrode
@Nathan Eckenrode: i wish i'd seen this earlier. you can subscribe to the feed of your Last.FM charts. :)
- edythe
i'm with Karl about muxtape, as far as music exploration services go, it's SO valuable...would love to see it integrated into ff....
- Iain Baker
yes, muxtape would make a great music addition.
- edythe
small/startup companies FTW...corporations suck ass IMO
- acedanger
from twhirl
you can never get away from it for too long. Every organization, once it realizes a little bit of success, immediately gets the elements everyone like you and I dread.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Rizzn, unfortunately you speak the truth.
- Mark Krynsky
What Steve meant to say was, "Why are you blocking the company I work for?" :-)
- Louis Gray
Great list of PR spammers, and good tip on using one filter to handle multiple spammers.
- engtech
Despite my above note, I agree with Steve that this is overblown. PR teams need to learn how to better engage with bloggers, but that doesn't make all their activity bad. Blocking all these domains is overdoing it in my opinion.
- Louis Gray
Alex: I just watch the Website and refresh early and often. What's amazing is how much faster Louis is. I think he has a direct link to FriendFeed's servers.
- Robert Scoble
If I remember, she spoke about it to and the eventually green lighted it. I think that's what counts :)
- Sriram Krishnan
from Alert Thingy
Benjamin: she didn't believe RSS was important to invest in.
- Robert Scoble
Also, just as a PS, obviously a growing number of people have left Google (some of them prominently to Facebook -- hey they're still pre IPO, more ground floor (relatively speaking) opportunity there) - also of course Bret Taylor, Paul B. and the other two Friendfeed founders. Certainly any company is going to lose more people after vesting and/or when later in the growth curve (funny...
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- Alex Hammer
I noticed a problem with this "like" feature in Friendfeed; I find this news about Marissa Mayer trying to kill one of the Google products i like the most "interesting" but i am somehow hesitating to give it a "like" in Friendfeed. And none of the others did "like" this news either. The Friendfeed tag should be renamed to "interesting"
- peter huesken
"Last week, for example, Mr. Buchheit’s followers on FriendFeed were treated to what he himself had discovered and found valuable online: links to interviews with the investor Peter Thiel in Reason magazine and the Google co-founder Larry Page in Fortune, an article about Justice Antonin Scalia’s views on torture on a political Web site, and a YouTube video of nine kittens moving their heads in rhythm to a song, among other Internet ephemera. One benefit of the feed sites is that they make conversation around online media both less voluminous and more meaningful. For example, YouTube users left an impenetrable 728 comments, many of them trivial or nonsensical, on the dancing-kitten video. Mr. Buchheit’s friends left two comments about the kittens — perhaps the right amount for a video that speaks for itself. They left 14 thoughtful comments about the Justice Scalia article."
- Paul Buchheit
The dancing kittens made it into the NYT!
- Paul Buchheit
And a mainstream audience is exposed to FriendFeed...
- Hutch Carpenter
Is this the 2nd time FF has been in the NYT?
- Adam Kazwell
Yes, we "launched" the company back in October with an NYT story. There may have also been a small story when we officially launched FF in Feb.
- Paul Buchheit
The NYT didn't mention that we also left 47 unthoughtful comments on the Scalia article.
- Jim Norris
@Adam The first time was on October 1, 2007.
- Anne Bouey
Wow, nyt makes it official: ⓞnor and Mark Trapp are thoughtful.
- j1m
I read this story via the iPod Touch while at the A's game. Your making me inattentive to the game was probably why they lost! FriendFeed FTL!
- Louis Gray
It's OK Louis. I just blogged it. You can just link to me :) As far as the A's ... yep, it's probably your fault.
- Charlie Anzman
It's weird when I know so many people who are getting into the New York Times. I'm off to check if Cathy Brooks has blocked me. Sounds like the author of the article did. :-)
- Robert Scoble
j1m - nice tie-in with google trends. Up, up, up and to the right!
- Ginger Makela Riker
Cool to see some more press for FF. As I grow my friend base, it becomes much more useful. Scoble knows how it is!
- Bartek Ciszkowski
from Alert Thingy
When you are new and all the eyes are on you it is difficult to get a fair opinion that not based around hype or what other people are saying.
- Gadiel Rivera
Hmm, well, one seems likely to be a DNS and/or network issue, and the other seems to be a problem with data consistency and reliability. If you can tell which is which, you get a gold star.
- Jason Wehmhoener
from Alert Thingy