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eResearch & ScholComm

eResearch & ScholComm

For discussion of scholarly publishing, open access, eResearch, cyberinfrastructure, etc. Librarians, publishers, IT folks, researchers, and scholars welcome!
jambina
please share with folks: mpow is looking for a Senior Director for Digital Initiatives (ignore closing date). killer team. Montréal. lots of awesome. http://www.mcgill.ca/library...
Might be interested, but can't speak a lick of French. Sounds like a kickass opportunity, though. - Jason Griffey
not at all required. we'll give you free French classes. - jambina
jambina
Wow - read it and reflect on it. I asked that a tech/collections/policy committee at our library talk about Nancy Sims article since it was published. Last I checked, it had even fallen off the parking lot of topics. Time to put this back on the agenda. - Lisa Hinchliffe
Excellent. I hope you'll work closely with Sarah Shreeves. - RepoRat
awd
This is what's wrong in academic publishing: "This Article Accepted:April 2012 Anticipated Publication Date:July 2013" (yay for preprints)
Why such a long delay?! - awd
sadly, that's not such a long delay.... - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
(I expect a lot of the delay in traditional scholarly publication has always been the reliance on volunteer editors and reviewers. Things would speed right up if it was someone's full time job to get it together) - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
If it's still a print journal, there's an easy answer: Page budget. Otherwise... - Walt Crawford
Indeed I was just looking at http://crl.acrl.org/content... .... and the difference between Article accepted date and anticipated publication date caught my eye. Still the main thing is I can get the thing online for free earlier... - aarontay
Creating (or perpetuating) an artificial scarcity is silly in an online publication... Also, aside from advertising revenue, I see no reason to keep printing C&RL and C&RLN... but that is not my call :) - awd
When I was on the ed. board, I asked about that, or if nothing else if we could let members opt out to save money/time/trees. IIRC, they had conducted a survey a few years ago and there was still a majority wanting print. But I have a feeling attitudes could change profoundly in a few years., so I wish they'd ask again. - barbara fister
When LITA took ITAL online only, they had to factor in the loss of the ads revenue... I bet CRL/CRLN get waaay more ad revenue than ITAL did - so cancelling the print might negatively impact the budget lines... (sorry to appear to be calling out ARCL & LITA on this - they're the two I'm familiar with) - awd
If it's a matter of making it look nice, I wonder if authors could be given a template into which to pour the info. I know it's more complicated than that, but it seems as if you could get a reasonably nice layout without quite so much labor. I know a lot of scientists who use LaTex and are able to do a lot more complex things than our articles typically require. We're not totally tech-ignorant as a field. - barbara fister
C&RL doesn't get a lot of ad revenue, but C&RL News does (relatively). - barbara fister
jambina
your afternoon chuckle: How to write like a scientist - http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/career_...
“Twenty million children die of scabies every day. OMG we built a robot kangaroo!” - Jason P
"If you ever write a review article, EndNote might explode." - Catherine Pellegrino
"Your paper will be peer reviewed, so include flattering descriptions of all of your peers. Scientists call these “shout-outs” or “mad props.”" - jambina
awd
awd
The "Research Works Act" (sponsored by the Association of American Publishers) http://www.publishers.org/press...
LSW discussion shaping up here: http://ff.im/OGcie - awd
jambina
hey - are your researchers getting emails from isif1@sci.scientific-direct.net telling them to "click here" to update their email cuz of new legislation? assuming it's phishing...
that would be my guess - RepoRat
have not heard - Meg V. Meg
well, "sci.scientific-direct.net" redirects to http://science.thomsonreuters.com/ -- but still not gonna click it in an email - awd
CHICKEN, just click it, what's the worst thing that could happen? DOUBLE DAWG DARE YA - Blake
There was this Computer Security series at some web site... LISnews, I think? ;) - awd
Yo Joe. No, go slow.
A Libertarian Perspective on Scholarly Open Access Publishing from Jeffrey Beall http://metadata.posterous.com/a-liber... Yes, that guy.
Trolly troll is trolly ... (but sadly I think he believes it) - Kathryn is Blake in Hindi
O_O - Hedgehog
jambina
The Journal of Librarianship & Scholarly Communication just launched. info attached in the files. i hope lots of you consider submitting!
more official-looking thinger here: http://www.pacificu.edu/news... - jambina
A place for my new paper! Now I just have to write it.... - Yo Joe. No, go slow. from iPod
Yay open access!!!! :D - val, an ominous portent
IGreat news! might have something to submit in the coming months. - Elizabeth Brown
science3point0
FigShare now allows multiple file data 'sets'. Oh, and what file types does your research come in? List them below or in the comments at the latest blog post: http://figshare.com/figblog...
jambina
just found out i'll be at open repositories in austin - anyone else?
rats, no - but enjoy Austin. Check out the bats. - barbara fister
I think a colleague from U of AZ will be there - I'll check, but she's good people if she does. - ellbeecee
And check out the barbecue! - Stephen le Francoeur
oh i am definitely going to check out the bbq! and barbara - the bats? - jambina
largest urban bat population in the western hemisphere! - Meg V. Meg
Just ask at the hotel where the "bat bridge" is and what time to get there to see them emerge. Bring a newspaper! - Marie
the biggest colony is under the South Congress bridge (20,000 total), if I remember. And they come out at dusk. If you're downtown all the action is on 6th street. - Elizabeth Brown
My college, Jeremy will be there. He needs to loosen up, and you are the one to do it, Jambina. - Steele Lawman
Uh, that may have sounded more suggestive than I meant it. Buy him a beer or something. - Steele Lawman
*puts away tassles* - jambina
There's an option for tassles? - Andy
science3point0
In a blatant copy of early Mendeley moves (it worked though, right?), FigShare has created a poster in an attempt to increase outreach globally. Please print one and put it up in your institution or on your blog: http://figshare.com/figblog...
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posterinpowerpoint.png
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jambina
InTech Web as an OA publisher - anyone familiar with them? http://www.intechweb.org/
They're not in the OASPA, but that's all I can tell you. - Walt Crawford
they were kicked out of OASPA for misleading advertising. we've been warning our staff away from it. - Christina Pikas
Now that's service. Thanks, Christina. - Walt Crawford
wow - you guys are great. thanks very much! - jambina
jambina
who is gonna be at CNI and wants to meet up for dinner/drinks?
*raises hand* - Mr. Gunn
yay! and i will trick dorothea into joining us! - jambina
yay! I'm local, so if anyone needs tips on places to go, let me know. - Mr. Gunn
jambina
anyone have any solid readings on bibliometrics? it's been awhile since i've read up on it and i think it's about time...
Christina Pikas
public symposium on The Value of Shared Access and Reuse of Publicly Funded Scientific Data. The event is being organized by the National Research Council's Board on Research Data and Information, and will be held on the afternoon of December 1 in Washington, DC...
Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 2:00-4:15 p.m. 20 F Street Conference Center Conference Room B, 20 F Street, NW, Washington, DC - Christina Pikas
This symposium will examine some of the research, economic, and social benefits that can be derived from providing online access to publicly-funded scientific data, as well as how such benefits can be evaluated. The event will include presentations on the scientific data sharing and reuse policies of the federal government; compelling examples of the value of free online access and... more... - Christina Pikas
Moderator: Michael Lesk, Rutgers University and Board Chair Speakers: Interagency Working Group on Digital Data, OSTP (invited) Rod Atkinson and Jan Johansson, Congressional Research Service Neil S. Buckholtz, National Institute on Aging, NIH Carl Shapiro, U.S. Geological Survey Heather Joseph, SPARC Michael Carroll, Washington School of Law, American University Paul David, Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research, Stanford University - Christina Pikas
via Joe Hourclé - Christina Pikas
it will be webcast, check that page for details - Christina Pikas
I'm waiting for the "download full understanding of presentation concept as understood by the presenter into my brain in 5-10 seconds" feature of webinars. There are so many that sound intersting, for which I do not have or cannot make time to watch in real-time / recorded - awd
Do they mean THIS Paul David -- http://www.bepress.com/cas...? Way cool. - Bill Hooker
science3point0
As the next step in our ever continuing mission to provide all the software needed to push online science forward in one place, we are proud to announce the launch of the Science 3.0 Etherpad! The etherpad can be found here: http://www.science3point0.com/etherpa... - The pad is open to members and non members alike. The reason we ask users to...
Chris
Dear Friend, We are writing to ask you to complete the European Bioinformatics Institute (EBI) Survey at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s... - It should take 10-15 minutes. - There are no compulsory questions. - You can be entered into a prize draw where you could win an iPad. This survey is collecting input from users and potential users of... - http://www.surveymonkey.com/s...
10-15 minutes of your time - EMBL-EBI Services Survey - Chris from Bookmarklet
Done. And Suprised to see my usage of EBI resources. - Pawel Szczesny from iPhone
it is quick and painless .. no option for postdoc .. that was weird. - Pedro Beltrao
I'll pass back the postdoc comment... Otherwise, thanks loads guys. Feedback is vital for a place like ours to do its service job properly. - Chris from twhirl
Done. Hope it helps. - Greg Tyrelle
Thanks Greg, much appreciated. - Chris from twhirl
jambina
who is going to the SPARC meeting in Baltimore in November?
been considering it off and on since it's close - Christina Pikas
I'll be there. Too bad you can't make it Dorothea. - Elizabeth Brown
oooh, jealous. got turned down for that one. - jambina
Wish I could, but I can barely afford to go to the 1.5 conferences a year that I do go to. 1.5=one national conference, and one local/regional. - Yo Joe. No, go slow.
I wanted to go to IDCC but my travel schedule turned out heavier than expected. Hopefully they'll stream part of it. - Elizabeth Brown
Yo Joe. No, go slow.
ITHAKA Sustainable Scholarship Conf. http://www.ithaka.org/about-i... Last call for registration. Wish I could go, but I don't think I will be able to make it.
Ali Numan
İsmail Tufan değerli araştırmasında ''İndigo, Türkçesi ile "Hintli" kimin elindeyse, ona zenginlik getiriyordu. Bugün petrol neyse, 19. yüzyılın sonlarına kadar indigo oydu. Biz onu daha çok çivit adıyla tanırız. Bitkisel boyarmaddelerin en değerlisi ve en çok kullanılanı. Eskisi kadar olmasa bile, hâlâ önemini koruyor. Onun mavi renk tonunu tutturmak çok zor olduğu için, her zaman değerli boyarmaddeler grubunun en tanınmış üyesi. Burada çivitin çok özel bir hikayesi anlatılıyor.'' diyor, dolayısıyla sadece bu senenin değil çok senenin özel renklerinden olacağı belli 2002-2003 senesinde kotlarda patlamıştı 2007-2008 de yeniden patladı etkisi hala devam ediyor bitmez o. - Ali Numan
↑ ↓ ← → ↖ ↗ - Ali Numan
jambina
how do we feel about the BIG journal aggregators adding OA journals to their repertoire?
i agree. but i still feel dirty signing these agreements. - jambina
does that make harnad the original "playa hata"? (how the whack do you spell that?) - jambina
We are putting /Collaborative Librarianship/ into EBSCO and Gale. - Yo Joe. No, go slow.
When I was doing collection development, and reviewing DOAJ journals and deciding whether they should be included in our journal finder, I often excluded journals because they weren't indexed. Indexing is good, in my opinion. - Laura H.
I don't have an objection. Since it's OA they can't hijack access or price, which are usually my biggest concerns. - Elizabeth Brown
science3point0
So, why should I be using it...? I see a lot of functionality, but nothing thrilling... cannot create a login with OpenID, site is not Web2.0 ready (no RDFa, not even microformats it seems)... where should I find my incentive? - Egon Willighagen
Thanks for the input, Egon. Mark and I spoke (1st time) for about 30 mins this afternoon (as scheduled). The site is still in it's embryonic stages and Mark is looking for this type of input to move forward. So thanks :-) - Graham Steel
He had already email me, but I have no idea where to start providing feedback.... there is much, but so much that I fail to find the significance... :( I replied and hope you can answer some of my questions, so that I can provide more targeted feedback... - Egon Willighagen
Have cross posted the above to the 'site suggestions' page. http://www.science2point0.com/Discuss... - Graham Steel
As Graham says above, this is great input thanks Egon. I appreciate some parts of the site are basic but this is the advantage of this site. It is designed to evolve with suggestions of what the users want and need. I have received your email and will be responding to all your comments at a more reasonable hour. As Graham so rightly says, it's in an embryonic stage in terms of... more... - science3point0 from iPhone
jambina
Fwd: This isn't the first time Seed has flouted editorial independence - http://www.guardian.co.uk/science... (via http://friendfeed.com/jambina)
jambina
help pls! am in the midst of rebranding eScholarship@McGill (now just the IR, but soon to involve more) and want to make the blurb about the IR catchier. currently: "a digital storehouse for the scholarship of McG faculty and students." thoughts? (me <3 crazy ideas)
ooooh, love that. no, there's nothing here yet. hmmm. i frequently say "home to the intellectual output of hte McGill community" in presentations... - jambina
good point. warehouse/storehouse = blah. aaargh. - jambina
eScholarship@McGill: Releasing Your Brilliance into the Wild - awd
digital resource? - jambina
"online showcase" ? (note: i really love aaron's and desperately wish the powers that be would go for it.) - jambina
I like awd's with perhaps a slightly different subtitle: eScholarship@McGill: As Montreal as a Two-Cheek Kiss - John Dupuis
imma make tshirts. - jambina
ya, we have some honours ugrad theses, but htey have to be sponsored by their profs, so folks seem okay with it. - jambina
exactly. the admin want a showcase, the library wants to offer an OA dbase of quality research, and the faculty want... googlejuice? - jambina
i would agree with the others - think of the purpose and the goal and find a word or two that encapsulates the idea. Discover, portal, etc. - Elizabeth Brown
ooooooooooh, THIS ROOM IS SO AWESOME. - jambina
Yo Joe. No, go slow.
Can we also add in delicious feeds with the tags scholarly_communication, scholarly-communication, etc?
Can we also have this? or would it be way too much? http://delicious.com/tag... - Yo Joe. No, go slow.
jambina
looking for opinions about VDM Verlag as manuscript publisher. DM me if you don't wanna post publicly.
An engineering faculty member here published with them. it took me a couple of tries to convince technical services to buy the book because they couldn't find it. Want the prof's contact info? - DJF
no, that's okay. they're soliciting students to publish their MA theses. the behaviour sends up warning flares for me. - jambina
yeah, that sounds pretty skeevy - DJF
Yup, I've spoken to grad students & profs who have gotten "offers" from VDM to publish their theses. Apparently they churn them out w/out revision of any kind. There was a discussion about this on an e-mail list (German-E) a while back...will forward. - Megan loves summer
Here's what a colleague has been sending to folks asking: - kristin buxton
1. Apparently it is legal to allow them to publish your thesis as a book given the ProQuest restrictions below. Proquest is currently offering copies of your thesis for sale. 2. The Chronicle of Higher Education had a discussion on this company(VDM Verlag) at: http://chronicle.com/forums... 3. Here is the response from ProQuest (aka University Microfilms): "You are... more... - kristin buxton
Sounds like an oddity--a PoD operation that sends authors five copies and hopes that some percentage of the theses will yield other sales, which at the right prices could quickly yield profits. (Hey, at $64 for a 112-page paperback--one example on Amazon--it only takes one sold copy to cover the five author's copies. Lulu would charge about $7 to produce a one-off 112-page paperback.) - Walt Crawford
Since they have over 7,000 titles listed on Amazon, they must be making this odd model work! - Walt Crawford
I say avoid. If the author really want's to reach the masses, publish it for free on the web. - Yo Joe. No, go slow.
i'm totally telling the student to avoid, but trying to figure out how to word it so that it's not "these guys are skeevy." i'm mentioning the value real academic presses provide (peer review, editing, you know, turning something into something folks want to read), how copyright transfer agreements can be filled with shite, how the T&P process doesn't care about VDM... anythign else? - jambina
Open Science Info
"SL is a Linux release put together by Fermilab, CERN, and various other labs and universities around the world. Its primary purpose is to reduce duplicated effort of the labs, and to have a common install base for the various experimenters. The base SL distribution is basically Enterprise Linux, recompiled from source. Our main goal for the base distribution is to have everything compatible with Enterprise, with only a few minor additions or changes. An example of of items that were added are Pine, and OpenAFS. Our secondary goal is to allow easy customization for a site, without disturbing the Scientific Linux base. The various labs are able to add their own modifications to their own site areas. By the magic of scripts, and the anaconda installer, each site is to be able to create their own distributions with minimal effort. Or, if a users wishes, they can simply install the base SL release." - Open Science Info from Bookmarklet
The latest version 5.4 adds a number of helpful utilities, both for science and general computing. https://www.scientificlinux.org/distrib... - Mike Chelen
Steve Koch
Model notebook, combo FriendFeed with MediaWiki (OpenWetWare) - http://openwetware.org/wiki...
I have been thinking for several months that FriendFeed is very close to what I need for a lab notebook. This page is to help me think about that. The main thing missing at the moment (it seems) is just a way to filter FriendFeed stuff by date. There's also the issue that the wiki doesn't "know" the FriendFeed content, and so versioning stuff is lost. But seems to me many of the pieces are there. - Steve Koch from Bookmarklet
One valid question would be: "is there a point to the wiki?" I'm thinking not a whole lot, right now I'm just using it as an easy way to place in a few iframes of the friend feed threads. A really advanced mindmap that I could drag and drop FriendFeed threads around, and then describe relationships between feeds would be very cool. Of course, I'm biased that way because I learned how mindmaps work last night and looked into them today. - Steve Koch
Breakin' the law! I'm so cool. Here's some non-science for you: http://friendfeed.com/steveko... - Steve Koch
I would say that there is a point to the wiki. Mainly because you can embed video, use LaTeX, Google spreadsheets, etc. Plus the wiki markup allows for greater structure in a post (headings, links...). Now if we use the power of the wiki with the flexibility for posting things via Friendfeed, that's spectacular. The ability to post relevent conversations on Friendfeed to a notebook entry is pretty awesome. I actually can't wait to try this. - Andy Maloney from iPhone
I also like the wiki because I am more of a wet lab person, and it more resembles a lab notebook to me - way to paste in various pieces of information as Andy wrote. Will follow this with much interest. - Heather
I've been using the wiki within our institutional VLE for over a year (giving up the paper notebooks was v. difficult!;) The flexibility is key: got to be able to post / upload anything. Am working on a "parts list" for diagrams that are used frequently (sequence maps, pcr primers etc) mostly generated spontaneously by students. Anybody know of an online source of such things? - Richard Badge from Nambu
Ant also asked this question, "do you need OWW?" I think if OWW can transform to make this work, then it'd be a "yes," since it could be very flexible. I had to create this example page manually. The next version of OWW (or other VLE or whatever) needs to be able to create pages automatically. So, when I create a new gel photo it automatically goes in my "gels" section of that day's page. It's OK if I need to do some setup work, but I shouldn't have to manually do stuff every day. - Steve Koch
I do not think imagining a FF widget is too far off: http://openwetware.org/wiki... . - Daniel Mietchen
It's times like this I feel the lack of a DropBox API - but we do have a grant in to develop a really lightweight, "drop it in the appropriate folder and have it go to the right place" system. That could work with the MediaWiki API (or anything else) to enable a bit of this kind of thing. But agree with Richard, its nice if a system knows what to do with a particular file type, but the important thing is that you can upload anything at all. - Cameron Neylon
I think that it has all been mentioned already, but I just want to emphasize what Andy pointed out. The the wiki gives your information some structure, mostly in regards to non-notebook information. As great as the lab notebook format that the wiki provides is, as I've had less and less time during the past few months, it has become more annoying to manually upload files/enter entries... more... - Diego
Hope Leman
Hi, all. Just want to alert you to the Science Commons Symposium – Pacific Northwest http://sciencecommons.org/events... Great event for those interested in cyberinfrastructure, e-Science, eResearch. One of the speakers is Stephen Friend of Sage.
Ali Numan
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