Re: WinPhone7 Will be good to have MS back in the game; but as they've lost all their sex appeal can't imagine they will do much more than maintain current market share.
- Jeff
I'll be watching. I have Leo on my tv but you know what's all weird abut this coverage? EVERYONE is excited about it! Even non-apple peeps. I think we're all hoping for something that will change our lives tangibly.
- Sheryl
@Robert - planning to, it's incredibly hard sifting through twitter search to find who is *actually* there versus who is just RTing others
- Jeremy Toeman
This is Raju from iSites Team. How are you guys doing?
- Raju Sagiraju
I'm in Sydney, Australia right now. The TWIT stream doesn't work and the audio stream doesn't appear to work at all.
- Gary
I'm in Canada just up the road and it works fine here, sorry to hear your struggling with the feed.
- Owen Greaves
I would pay to watch a live stream of the apple event!
- Raju Sagiraju
History has it that the Apple -Eve saw changed.... ! Apple is going to change communications and... !
- kailas desai
thanks Scobleizer... I'll stay on this thread then!
- .LAG liked that
i've got Scoble's tech-news-people list running on http://twitterfall.com (disc: I'm the lead developer there ;) )
- Jalada
@HansKainz... thanks for the link, opening up a new window for that... thank goodness I have a 30-inch monitor :)
- .LAG liked that
I'm monitoring #AppleLive on Twitter, Robert Scoble on FriendFeed and Twit.tv
- Owen Greaves
Apple may really need to make this tablet a success since less than extraordinary iPhone shipments in this last quarter may point to rival phones blocking further iPhone steep incline.
- Tim Jones
Ooooh only a few minutes till Apple tablet news kicks off. Can't wait to see what Job's reveals
- Susan Beebe
The Apple announcement brought FF down for a while:-)
- Francine Hardaway
I can't believe Steve Jobs hasn't taken over the live-streaming part of the presentation. My memories are going to be of Leo's voice getting lost in the digital haze.
- Ian McGee
i dont think friendfeed is used to this much activity anymore. site is failing for me non-stop. but i will say my simple list of 22 people is giving me a very *readable* way to follow the news...
- Jeremy Toeman
I wonder how much of it has to do with the fact that there's no one dedicated to minding the store anymore.
- Akiva
Apple is the largest mobile device manufacturer in the WORLD.
- Lakshman Prasad
The site crashing is troublesome. Sign of the current state of FF.
- Mark Krynsky
all the live news sites are busted hah
- Allen Stern
Lakshman- I thought Nokia is the largest mobile device manufacturer in the WORLD, mobile being phones here. As for laptops, it would be one of the PC makers.
- Tim Jones
they are debating what it will price at.
- Thomas Hawk
Daring Fireball has a great explanation as to why Apple and Adobe are at odds over Flash, good read, if you're interested in why Flash is a problem for Apple: http://ff.im/-ePkYc
- .LAG liked that
fox business is showing some tape-delayed video live
- Allen Stern
Just a tablet PC like iPhone was just a mobile phone (Note: take a look at almost every smart phone since iPhone launch)
- Kurt Starnes
Pixel doubling? Are you serious? Runs apps at essentially 320x480? "Black box" 1:1 in the center of the screen? This is a joke.
- Steve and 4 other people
It is A4, an Audi, so yes, it can play HD video :).
- Simon Cahuk
Honestly? So far, I'm pretty disappointed.
- Joshua
conflicted. with a 10 hr battery i can see this replacing a kindle. but I'm pretty happy reading on my nexus. Do I want to go back to carrying a 10" screen?
- Ben Reierson
Rewriting apps for screen resolutions? Won't that result in "fragmentation" of the App Store market? I mean, that's what tech journos have been beating Android over the head with for the past 6 months or so
- LANjackal
from IM
"How many iPhone apps can be on the screen and running at the same time?" One. No apps running in the background.
- James
fox business guy bashing the ipad for no keyboard and light gig memory
- Allen Stern
i'd bet the people who can shell out for a kindle will run for an ipad
- Allen Stern
@LANjackal it will be all packed in a fat executable, both low and hi res
- ↂGiorgiँ Zarrelliↂ
Can the iPad dial your iPhone from it's adress book?
- Jon Winters
I honestly was hoping for a tweaked Touch Ready OS X. Not what feels like a port of the iPhone.
- Joshua
Eh...so far I'm not impressed and don't see anything revolutionary. Sure this device is pretty but I'm already thinking if it's priced any higher than $500 I'm declaring it only a device for early adopters and Fanboys.
- Mark Krynsky
It would be cool if you could run apps side by side. Twitter app and a news app etc. Take advantage of the big screen and not need to resize native iPhone apps.
- David Damore
Have they mentioned it's internet connection? Wi-Fi or something else?
- Jon Winters
apple stock up 2,170% since 2003 - holy crap.
- Allen Stern
Leo's feed is finally showing video from event.
- Robert Scoble
david - scoble will have 3 ipads taped together for mobile usage to mirror his home setup :-P
- Allen Stern
im guessing sxsw will be renamed - iPadsw
- Allen Stern
Robert - no, it's going after DS Lite and PSP
- Andrew Terry
Apple is 30 minutes into their iPad presentation. The stock is down 2.5%, so Apple has lost $4 BILLION in market cap over the last 30 min. From @hotzington
- Mark
"Going after the Xbox" Yeah when either device has half the capabilities of the other, let me know. Don't be ridiculous
- LANjackal
from IM
Maybe we should buy the stock, wait for it to go back up, sell, then buy an iPad?
- Robert Scoble
I was happy reading on my Touch a year ago. The Kindle app is really sweet.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
to me the kindle is a "rich" device meaning the avg american isn't buying it - same with the ipad so it works perfectly - those with kindle money will run to the ipad
- Allen Stern
wow so apple is now going to fight amazon - i hope amazon kicks apples ass :)
- Allen Stern
Yea right Mark...cold day in hell when Apple would do that.
- Mark Krynsky
@Allen Stern +3 Re: "scoble will have 3 ipads taped together"
- David Damore
the price for the new 10" ipod touch ?
- tony bland
iPad is a new platform -- I bet it's where Apple wants to take personal computing
- Kurt Starnes
you're going to give a presentation with your audience huddled around a 9" handheld device..? Really?
- Andrew Terry
will ipad apps work on the ipod touch/ iphone ?
- tony bland
Andrew: and that is going after the Xbox too. Just watch how Microsoft reacts to this. Microsoft wanted to do an Xbox portable.
- Robert Scoble
My sons already have been using Xbox less since iPhones came out. iPads will steal even more time from Xbox.
- Robert Scoble
There are no buttons on it! you can't do serious gaming without buttons.
- Mark
Andrew - do you give presentations around a laptop screen?
- Kurt Starnes
@Kurt: into a brave new world in which every app will need their approval? Sounds like a nightmare for "personal computing" IMO. I hope you're wrong
- LANjackal
from IM
wait, you can rotate and resize photos with touch?! Amazing!
- Ben Reierson
LAN - I mean the way people use computers. The mouse/hard-keyboard UI is old fashioned, IMO
- Kurt Starnes
+++Krynsky "No Flash = TOTAL FAIL! It will be a long time for HTML 5 to take over. " -- The size of the tablet makes it a natural for web browsing - except for lack of flash support. It was disappointing in the iPhone but quite ridiculous in the iPad. I don't "love" flash but it's a fact of life on the web.
- Richard Walker
all my 12 yr old son plays these days is Modern Warfare 2
- Tim Jones
I'm with you on your commentary Allen...btw you going to SXSW? Good time having lunch with you last year.
- Mark Krynsky
Robert, that's just incidental, in the same way you'll probably watch less TV if you buy an ATV and decide to go riding around in it often. Doesn't mean the ATV and TV manufacturers are in competition. Sheesh
- LANjackal
from IM
Kurt - no; not around a laptop, but I do swing it around so the screen is facing my audience..
- Andrew Terry
A computer with a 1GHZ cpu. It's a bit 2001.
- Mark
LAN - And, I am hopeful that iPad is not locked down the way iPhone is!
- Kurt Starnes
I bet the HP Slate has flash *gunshots*
- LANjackal
from IM
iWork on the iPad....YAWN...what else?
- Mark Krynsky
Mark - I think we'll have to use one to make a reasonable judgment on the chip
- Kurt Starnes
Just saw the pics of the iPad over on Engadget. Sweet Jebus, that thing is ugly. It's got like 2 inches of border around the thing. From the pics, I'm betting it's locked down too, with apps from a new App Store. Epic Fail.
- Otto
Jobs hates flash, there was no way he would put it on this device
- Kim Landwehr
Thinking... The iPad attaches to your MacBook as a second display with seamless integration Photographers can edit photos directly with their fingers.
- Jon Winters
Kurt: It uses the iPhone OS, which means it'll probably also use the App Store. Which means it'll be just as locked down.
- LANjackal
from IM
Jon - that would be a) very cool and b) make total sense
- Andrew Terry
Biggest deal so far - unless it is still to come - no camera so no ichat
- Keith Teare
Unless it's being sold through carriers (and hence subsidized) this thing's gonna be expensive. Def not an impulse by for most people
- LANjackal
from IM
I still do not understand why they can't make these things (both iPhone and this new thing) "sync" via WiFi. Why must I connect the thing to my computer? They're on the same network FFS! Making me use a USB cable is just frickin' stupid.
- Otto
Great deal on dataplan - I'll carry one around, may replace my laptop eventually
- Kurt Starnes
Data plans seem somewhat reasonable when you consider WiFi in most cases. Still in bed with AT&T though.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Now I'm hearing $9.99 for apps ... guess how much I paid for the apps on my DROID? $0. The only apps I pay for now are Evernote and Office on my PC. Period.
- LANjackal
from IM
Otto: probably because it might make DRM harder to implement. It's a lot easier to verify hardware that's physically connected to the machine, than to verify a client that you can't touch
- LANjackal
from IM
You guys might wanna ask Sony how well a $499 price works for a non-PC mass market product.
- LANjackal
from IM
@LANjackal: The problem there is that that system backfires. I specifically do not buy media on the iTunes store because of the "must sync to the computer" problem. I don't connect my gear to my computer, ever. I haven't hooked my phone up since the first day I got the thing (and jailbroke it). I very likely never will hook it up again, because there's no point. Also, if they need verification, then a simple 2-key cryptographic system could be made to work easily enough.
- Otto
Are there iPhone apps for DSLR tethering?
- Jon Winters
Biggie Sized iPhone without the Phone ??????
- Owen Greaves
Optional solar-powered case? Wait for it... ;-)
- Ian McGee
Owen, with 3G model I am guessing one could connect with a Bluetooth earpiece
- Kurt Starnes
Wrong for that purpose, I meant
- LANjackal
from IM
+1 Otto - I use my iPhone daily and I haven't synced it in months. It's jailbroken. I also can't stand the regular iTunes updates I keep getting - they update the program more often than I start it.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I'm pretty sure people are looking for a webcam LAN, not a DSLR
- Daniel J. Pritchett
No multi-tasking? Are they serious? Holy hell, that's inane.
- Otto
my $300 netbook w/ Kindle for PC works for me
- Tim Jones
Please, just improve the iPhone and iTouch. The first time you drop the iPad will be the last. The mobile sites for the NYTimes are good enough for me. I don't need the Flash ads. If you're in public, you can't set it down, you can't put it in your pocket.
- Bill Koslosky, MD
Yep, iPad = Giant iPhone (exactly as I wanted / predicted) - didn't get camera tho = iFail
- Susan Beebe
K I'm with you guys on the webcam idea.
- LANjackal
from IM
Bill -- I don't have a very good record with any dropped computer, except iPhone and other cell phones, surviving drops.
- Kurt Starnes
All things considered, I'm pretty underwhelmed... it's a big iPod, but not as portable.
- Andrew Terry
How long until I can run Android on it? :-P
- TranceMist
Can't wait to get a hold of one. Take care folks.
- Kurt Starnes
Should have shocked everyone with a name nobody expected: The iNewton
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
No multitasking? Wow. How bad of a product release is this? A $500 - $830 device that's completely locked down and can't multitask or webcam? And as some people on Twitter are pointing out: iPad? Really? Were there any women in the original focus group?
- LANjackal
from IM
AT&T suckage depends on where you are. Here in Memphis, for example. AT&T is quite good. I get ridiculous speeds off the 3G and never have a dropped call. When I travel to Atlanta, the experience there is quite different.
- Otto
Kurt: I can only see this as a household device. If you prop this thing up with its case at a Starbucks table, looks like trouble. No video-conferencing, but prob in the next version.
- Bill Koslosky, MD
I bet iPad is the netbook killer, Tim Jones.
- Vezquex
"I don't see this leaving the house too often," says Leo. But he thinks it's the "ultimate airplane device."
- Bill Koslosky, MD
Scoble's Nexus One ustream streaming quality is better than his iPad streaming quality right now
- Tim Jones
any announcments about iPhone's moving to other carriers?
- Amani
from IM
Expect an iPad killer from Google within 6 months.
- Jim Posner
Household users, Airplane users, student users, personal entertainment users, ebook reades, basic laptop users....that's a pretty huge market.
- Leif Hansen
+1 Otto on the Memphis 3G. I get silky smooth service and I always have to remind myself about the problems in larger markets.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
What does this do for the Kindle, Nook and all the other e-ink readers? I'd say they're in trouble. Except for reading a textbook, I think a device just 2x larger than the iTouch would be more convenient.
- Bill Koslosky, MD
@Bill I'd agree mostly on the ebook readers. But there is something *really* nice on the eyes with e-ink that I'm hesitant to give up (and go back to zombie brain lit screens).
- Leif Hansen
Leo Laporte just said that it's an incredible device when you actually get your hands on it... beautiful, light, incrediblly responsive screen... I'll wait until I get to play with one before judging on what it lacks, and whether or not that's detrimental
- .LAG liked that
Apple stock went from being down to now being up $3.12. As soon as the price came out the stock turned and went up.
- Thomas Hawk
iPad does not support T-Mobile's 1700 GHz 3G frequencies
- TranceMist
Ummmm ok ... I can think of many incredible, beautiful devices that I have no use for. This is another one of them. The iPhone, yes. The iPad? No. Not at that price point, at least
- LANjackal
from IM
Thomas ...isn't a lot of the stock movement in the last couple of hours really just speculators betting on what was going to officially get announced today?
- .LAG liked that
No shit it doesn't. T-Mobile's gone all in with Android
- LANjackal
from IM
I didn't hear when Apple would allow people to order the iPad. Did anyone else?
- Jeff P. Henderson
the specs dont list GPS capabilities. Am I wrong ?
- Kashif Khan
Jeff: I think someone said 1 - 3 months earlier in the thread
- LANjackal
from IM
@.LAG liked that, I think the stock move has to do with the price. The market liked the $499 price more than the speculated higher $1,000 price. It was down until the price was announced then it turned up.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas... makes sense. $499 is a price that will probably move lots of units
- .LAG liked that
No it won't. Ask Sony what happened with their $500 price point for the PS3. $500 is not an impulse buy. For that you have to be at $299 or below
- LANjackal
from IM
Giant iPod. Hopefully an OS refresh will unlock some goodness. Otherwise? This is a shiny paperweight.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
They've not updated the UK store yet with info about the ipad. A little let down about the lack of bluetooth connection to a dekstop/laptop mac for use as an input device. Also, not bothered about the 3G version as I'd rather buy a mifi and use that saving myself cash and letting more devices access the net on the go ;)
- alphaxion
It would be cool if I could get a mifi-type device with a $15/30 per month no-contract billing option. That would make all of these devices tempting.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
here in the UK 3 offer a mifi with a 1 month rolling contract, 5Gb per month limit with £40 up front for the mifi or a pay as you go mifi for £70 up front
- alphaxion
That sounds sweet alpha, I think here it's like $60/mo. with a long-term contract. Let me double-check that. Edit: Looks like the minimum mifi contract is $40/mo. for 250MB and it doesn't say how long the contract lasts. http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
is there no way of buying the low end model and adding in an sdxc card to bump it up to 64GB? Having no camera is ridiculous and as usual you are locked into the apple ecosystem. Once again you either love the way they do things or you don't. It will be a popular device, but I'm always amazed at how many people are quite happy with Apple's walled garden. This is what killed them in the...
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- Phil Ashman
There is an SD card reader peripheral included.
- Vezquex
hmm... it also doesn't look like it supports multiple user profiles and it's *still* tethered to a single machine with itunes.
- alphaxion
Orange. The tablet still doesn't work well as the video livestream interface between my DVCam and whatever RMTP server I need to transmit to. Seriously whatever, as far as I'm concerned.
- Rich Reader
(CNN) -- A federal jury Thursday found a 32-year-old Minnesota woman guilty of illegally downloading music from the Internet and fined her $80,000 each -- a total of $1.9 million -- for 24 songs. Illegal downloads of musical files will cost a Minnesota woman $1.9 million, a jury has decided. Jammie Thomas-Rasset's case was the first such copyright infringement case to go to trial in the United States, her attorney said. Attorney Joe Sibley said that his client was shocked at fine, noting that the price tag on the songs she downloaded was 99 cents. She plans to appeal, he said. Cara Duckworth, a spokeswoman for the Recording Industry Association of America, said the RIIA was "pleased that the jury agreed with the evidence and found the defendant liable." "We appreciate the jury's service and that they take this as seriously as we do," she said. Thomas-Rasset downloaded work by artists such as No Doubt, Linkin Park, Gloria Estefan and Sheryl Crow. Don't Miss Steven Van Zandt on
- Leo Laporte
I cannot believe I live in the state that has idiots large enough to think that this woman has a chance to be able to pay what they are asking....
- Chris Ames
oh come on, let the poor woman off the hook, sure its illegal, but dont charge her with $1.9M, give her a slap on the wrist and tell her not to do it again. and this is for 24 songs? heck, why dont they go after the people who are downloading full length HD movies and who have thousands of songs downloaded, those are the people who should be fined or jailed, not a woman who downloaded only 24 songs.
- Bryce Campbell
It's publicity and the labels think it's a lesson for others. In a sense it's advertising, $1.9mil is sacrificed (I agree, Chris, she can't pay this) for negative publicity. The labels don't give a damn that in their quest to make an example of this poor woman they are financially ruining a human being unnecessarily and unreasonably. This is when justice becomes a bully.
- Jack&Cleo
Sadly the jury is the one that thought that $80k a song was a valid price to pay.
- Chris Ames
$80k/song! Pure lunacy. How could the judge even say her fine with a straight face?
- Shane
...and this will further alienate music consumers. RIAA continues to remain out of touch.
- jbrotherlove
Is this women rich? So, they decided to fine her 80,808 times for one song and for all 24 a total of 1,939,393.94 times the worth of the songs. Wow, it's bigger business in making money from taking people to court.
- Academic PCs
It must be the depression that we are in
- Academic PCs
I'd love to see the artists of the songs she downloaded to pull together the fine for her as say 'screw you' to the label companies. Of course, that will never happen, but would be fun to read.
- Jess
When it comes to stories like this, the "Like" feature of FF doesn't come across the right way.
- George S.
Yea add to it that at the 99cents itunes business model it would mean to lose that much that those songs would have to have been downloaded from her PC almost 2 million times.
- Chris Ames
As the original 2007 verdict was judged to be "wholly disproportionate" and "oppressive" this verdict is most likely to be judge "insane".
- visibleprocrastinations
did she download from various sites on the internet or just from one?
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Doh... there's no way! How did they come up with 1.9 million?
- Torp
The US legalsystem never stops to amaze me, how much would the fine be for a plain robery? It just don't make any sense!
- Björn Fritz
from Nambu
Is it possible to do the payment the piratebayway? Via micropaymemts that end up costing more for the recepient in fees, now wouldn't that be fun ;)
- Björn Fritz
from Nambu
There is something not quite right about the reporting of this case. On the one hand she is accused " of illegally sharing 24 songs from artists including Sheryl Crow and Green Day.". On the other she is accused "of uploading 1,700 songs to the Kazaa file-sharing site before it became a legal service." Would the honourable gentlemen of the press please find out which of these heinous crimes the obscene fine is attributed to and report back. Thank you.
- Gilbert Harding
And what would the RIAA do if everyone with an Internet connection started "pirating" music? Are they going to file a class-action lawsuit against the consumers? RIAA vs. the People. That's rich. Just another bunch of hoodlums in suits, that's all. I say micropayment them into bankruptcy.
- John Fox
Bet she wishes she had that original 220K judgement back...
- Eric
[sarcasm] That'll teach people to not appeal or retry their cases![/sarcasm]
- Barry Biddlecomb
from twhirl
@Barry Biddlecomb Yes how dare she not tie up our court system fighting frivolous lawsuits brought on by filthy rich corporate sleaze that just can't ever get rich enough, ruled upon by high priced back pocket judges.
- Nathan Mylott
I hear ya Barry. Its all about strategy with these guys (lawyers) and one has to see the truth in your sarcasm and that this became about 'the lesson'...
- Eric
The RIAA are still suing people? Haven't they learned after years that it's bad for them?
- Jeffrey Allan Boman
that is so ridiculous I can't even comment on this ... dang!
- Susan Beebe
I read this story and was floored that a jury was dumb enough to award this. I guess suing and winning more than $1 million decision from divorced women with 4 kids is what the RIAA wants to be known for. I guess that's good PR for them? If I were the RIAA I'd want to keep stuff like this off the radar. This is only further advances the idea that the recording industry is in its death...
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- Lon Cohen
Why do I get the feeling that RIAA is kicking in agony?
- andrei_c
Is the award of $80,000 per song constitutional?
- Gil Francisco III
It is totally crazy that they would fine her $80K per song - i can understand a fine but not destroying someone's life - it's like they are trying to punish one woman for millions of people's crime - it's not right.
- Robert Freeze
Would going completely wireless solve this kind of problem? (not that we really can)
- Justin Long
not seen/heard/read much of anything about the recent hack on America either... coincidence? Even my wife perked up at the last B.Willis/Die Hard flick saying; "Holy S&%t, someone could do that pretty easily couldn't they"? Well... sure seems that way.
- Ted Bradford II
Yup, it's a complex world, and too much of it presumes electricity and bandwidth. In terms of geek disaster planning, the fallback is RFC 1149, which is waaaay too slow for emergency services. http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149...
- Shane Curcuru
What disturbs me is that most of the so-called cybersecurity proposals involve increased centralization and kill-switches, rather than decentralization and independent systems.
- Robin Barooah
Agreed. I work for a large healthcare provider and centralization has been the mantra for the past 10yrs. Not that it doesn't have its place but when you are talking EMRs and medical imaging....wow, its kind of scary.
- Eric
Very interesting perspective. I think that more services should be required to test services operating in 'partioned' mode.
- Will Hawkins
@coldbrew: no, 1149 is more useful: in an emergency situation, who cares about the extra QOS levels in 2549? Plus, those QOS and other levels introduce more dependencies besides pigeon food and good weather.
- Shane Curcuru
I'd like to add 'IP over Airborne Particulate' (i.e. smoke) as a new RFC (possibly 4-1-10?).
- coldbrew
I've always envisioned a future of non grid power supply and non grid communications network(fiber optics, telcoms gone), each dwelling supplies his own engergies and linkup/radio/microwave to comm. Each dwelling can tie into a system to give their excess energy to those more in need but their is not power company as is the case today. People link into different services from around the...
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- Monique
I got my ham license after Katrina but found it hard to get into---it's not very asynchronous and I'm not too into hardware hacking.
- Emil Sit
I've been a licensed amateur radio operator for over 35 years, I was helping with communications after Hurricane Andrew, where there were NO communications at all, no road signs, no trees, let alone cell towers for communications. There was amateur radio! It has improved since Andrew, and Katrina showed this. I use CW (Morse Code) and still love this form of communications. So when all Cyber Communications go down, I will still be able to communicate world wide - by radio! Robert WE4B
- HamRadioActive