How do we all feel about this? Personally, I would put ads in my tweets, and I wouldn't object to others doing the same. Ads are all the same to me, they get ignored.
- Will Higgins™
hmm, i dunno - tweets are so short that i probably would unfollow anyone who added them to their tweets. But on a twitter background, even though i wouldnt do it - i wouldn't blame people who did.
- Zee.
The problem with this is that you probably won't be able to tell the difference between an ad and, let's say, a site that the "twitterer" is actually recommending. Unless the user is providing amazing content, I'd probably unfollow.
- Antonio Marques
from twhirl
I'm yet to see this in action - is there a Magpie disclaimer in the tweet at all? if it's at all detectable, it's an automatic unfollow as far as I'm concerned
- David Miller
is this, firstly, in concordance with the twitter tos? i find it hard to believe.
- Tibi Puiu
I am going to try it. Says I can make $98.41!
- Stowe Boyd
Something is wrong, it says I can make $7,703!
- Eric Sessions
I tried Twittads, not Magpie. Magpis says I could make 286.11 €/month
- Stowe Boyd
What a weird service. It says I can make 5.08€/month.
- Admiral Anika
Oh boy, I could make 3 bucks a month. :/ Not worth it in my opinion. Interesting concept though.
- Geoff Girardin
The yes-on-8 people are out holding signs on El Camino Real that say they are for freedom of speech. So I rolled down my window and told them what I think of them. :-)
There were a bunch on Colorado Blvd. in Eagle Rock in front of Target. Thought of calling up my gay buds and having us all make out in front of them.
- Derrick
You guys? Slurs? Proper english (sic)? WTF are you on about?
- Brian Sullivan
I would, but I'm working! Bah, that whole work job crap is over rated. NO on 8!!
- Derrick
Tell 'em what you think? hmm, wonder the choice words. Bet you didn't listen to what they thought, huh? Of course not, but they got to hear what you had to say. ok. Typical..
- Thomas Capote
from twhirl
Someday, someone will have to explain to me how Britney Spears getting wasted with a friend in Vegas, blowing him in the shower then going downstairs and getting married is seen as a vaild form of marriage yet two loving people, in a committed longer term relationship, who are of the same sex is not...
- Johnny Worthington
Thomas: their signs told me what they thought. Which is pretty hateful stuff.
- Robert Scoble
But Robert, don't you think you should have taken the time to get to know who they really are?
- B. Hatin
You wanna be freinds, go for it. Live together, go for it. Be with each other when your sick, go for it. Put eac other on your own health care, go for it. Marriage, Man and a Woman. Period. Hateful? I don't think so. Funny how it is okay for you to push your thought on me, but it is hateful if I have my opinion. Your smarter than that.
- Thomas Capote
from twhirl
Thomas, but why 'Period'. Please explain to me why this is so. Tell me the rule, show me the evidence, explain to me what great universe-shattering event would happen. If your reason is based purely in your religion, then sir you are the one pushing your beliefs on us :)
- Johnny Worthington
Looks like Thomas has been day drinking again.
- Aaron deMello
Thomas, you can't say "You guys should learn to use proper english" if you can't use it yourself.
- Rochelle
Rudy: when you face hatred and bigotry in society why do we need to drink beer together?
- Robert Scoble
Thomas is just an instigator... look at his twitter feed
- Eric Sessions
Can someone please explain to me what the difference is? I'm not saying Thomas is hateful, but why should men and women be the ones who have the exclusive lock on marriage? What is it when people of the same sex desire that union or partnership?
- Derrick
if I met a KKK member or a Nazi or a racist do I need to get to know them further before I decide they are on the wrong side?
- Robert Scoble
And while you're at it, can you please explain Genesis 19-8...
- Johnny Worthington
Prolofic: in my experiences beer just makes it more likely we will do something stupid.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, you are confusing things. having a different opinion on a "term", because it's all about terms and etymology/semiology. (Some people just can't accept the use of "established" words in different situations) is NOT equal to KKK or nazism. I can say that I don't want that the word "marriage" to be used in a different situation without being "racist", intolerant or anything. This said, I'm not even U.S... just my two cents.
- directeur
directeur: I think history will prove you to be on the wrong side of this.
- Robert Scoble
Remember: at one point in our history it was acceptable to own slaves and there were lots who tried to hold back change there too.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, well maybe. I hope you got my point anyways. I myself, am not against or pro anything. I'm just saying that being a "purist" is not obligatory being a bad person.
- directeur
I would rather be on the side of giving people more rights than on the side trying to take them away.
- Robert Scoble
I some some of the same at Winchester and Steven's Creek in San Jose. I flipped them off. :-) Then about an hour later the corners were swarmed with "No on 8" people. It was pretty awesome.
- Jennifer Leggio
Robert, why "insist" on the word "mariage", that's what's puzzling me. Why not invent a law, a procedure, whatnot to regulate (because, mariage if not religious is just a regulation). Look, french invented the PACS
- directeur
"I would rather be on the side of giving people more rights than on the side trying to take them away." Fully agreed.
- Jennifer Leggio
Bans on marriage outside you station, your religion and your race were all considered valid in their time.
- Johnny Worthington
Right on Robert!!! It's so cool that you are willing to be a voice in all the stuff you are :) I'm a huge fan!
- Patricia
Why not take marriage away altogether and give everyone hetero- and homosexual civil unions? What is it about this word that gives the gay marriage detractors the heebie jeebies? Saying, "It's between a man and a woman!" isn't enough anymore. That's weak.
- Derrick
Derrick: a doctor is someone who do medecine. Marriage is known to be between a man and a women. And again, I'm talking about words and thier use. You still don't know my opinion on the subject :)
- directeur
To give you an example of what I'm saying: in french the word "ecrivain" is used to be the word for "author" be it for men or women. And then some feminists, not even linguists, insisted on the introduction of the word "ecrivaine" as a femal equivalent of "ecrivain". See what I mean?
- directeur
Jennifer made my point, she flipped them off. Brilliant. I guess you are allowed to have an opinion as long as it aligns with your beliefs or you'll "Flip them off". Genius.
- Thomas Capote
from twhirl
Yeah, Robert, it was acceptable to kill slaves because (a) they weren't human and (b) "it's MY property." And it was acceptable to kill Jews in Nazi Germany because (a) they weren't human and (b) "it's OUR country." I think history will prove that you are on the wrong side of abortion, but that doesn't mean I equate you with Nazis or racists or KKK members, like you equate the people...
more...
- Dawn
...maybe we can try to understand the other side instead of just yelling hateful slurs at each other.
- Dawn
"Marriage is known to be between a man and a women." Language isn't set in stone. Definitions change and expand frequently. "Voter" used to mean a white male property owner. Voting was long held to be a male privilege. Should we still honor that interpretation? In many societies marriages are arraigned, in others men are allowed to have multiple wives. "Marriage as a sacred union between a man and woman" is not a universal truism. It's a cultural tradition, and traditions change.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
@dawn, what studies have been conducted about same sex parents? can you link me?
- Patricia
'isms are about power. Racism is power based on race; sexism is power based on sex. Homophobia is one area where the power structure has not yet been eroded; in many ways, it represents one of the final frontiers of ignorance and, I hope, one which will be conquered in my lifetime. Ensuring a 'no' vote on this law is a small step to that end.
- dkb
See I'm liking Jack's take on it, directeur. I understand that words have meanings and definitions, but language is also fluid and evolving. Queer used to (and still does) mean odd or strange, then because a derogatory word for a homosexual. Then homosexuals adopted and re-appropriated the word in a different light, ie, Queer Studies, etc. I just don't see why people are so hung up over what seems to be the word marriage. If gays/lesbians marry, how does it affect hetero marriages?
- Derrick
Jack, ok, you got it about words. Now tell me when can we say that thing "XXX" can't be accepted? If words evolve that way and we have to accept that fact without studying (because I insist on studying by people who know, people whose job is this: historians, linguists, psychlogists) How can we say that something is not acceptable? or said differently: what's innaceptable and why shouldn't it given your argument?
- directeur
Dawn: I find abortion to be abhorrent but taking away the right to choose is even worse. Same with gay marriage. You do notice ichose to marry a woman, right? But why should you take away the rights of others? Abortion is a tougher one if you believe a fetus has rights, though. So let's stay away from that in this thread.
- Robert Scoble
Derrik, I DO respect the way you talk, and love it sincerly. Not yelling at me with words (given that I'm not giving an opinion but a thought about etymology). Now back to what you've said, I'm again saying that these things have specialists to study them: socilogists, philosphes and so on... don't do other's job. Because if we had that right, why not become all doctors? See what I mean? I mean, you of course have the right to give your opinion, call for "civil rights" (which are given by laws)
- directeur
But at the end we should all refer to profesionals
- directeur
Thanks directeur, I try to play nice with others. My problem with your argument is that while doctors practice medicine, we ALL use language. We ALL communicate. We can't leave the decision to linguists in those terms; to make up our minds for what words can/can't be used. I've always loved language and make up words that become part of my own canon and my friends pick up on it and use them too. Language isn't an object to be owned and possessed.
- Derrick
@Derrick... I've been wondering that for a long time. Government has no business in the marriage business, leave that to churches etc. IF people want to do that. Allow civil unions for any government-protected rights and benefits. It's simply a contract between two people.
- LogEx
Derrik, I do agree. BUT the history and use of words aren't really your job. History is the job of hstorians. Let's talk about "civil rights", in amsterdam, it IS you right to smoke marijuana. and marijuana is not a drug there. Does this mean that you can do this "legally" in the US? No. Are US laws bad on this? You and I don't know, the ones who know are specialists. All in all, what I'm striving to explain is that we folks here do debate freely (as in money). The worthy opinion is specialists one.
- directeur
I guess we'll agree to disagree, directeur. What all of this comes down to, regardless of etymology, is that two people regardless of sex, who want to be married to each other should be able to do so. Thanks for engaging me in the discussion.
- Derrick
@Logical Never mind the people who go to church to only really get married. People look at gays and think that we're sexual deviants who aren't worthy of being married because we're too busy doing banging around. What about the ho-ish straight people? Why do they get a pass? Oh well.
- Derrick
A last word on this thread. I confess, I've tried to subtily see how can someone give an opinion which is not *apparently* shared by the majority without being called a bad person. Derrik, you got my respect! Those of you who made their opinion on an opinion I actually didn't gave should simply smile and take it easy :)
- directeur
directeur - Thanks. I appreciate the compliment.
- Derrick
I think some people who keep insisting that the M word only be between man and woman are just hiding the fact that they object to gay unions in general. It's like saying,"No, we SHOULD educate all the children, no matter how they look, but we must not call THEIR learning institutions "schools!" [edit: fixing the fact I'm over-generalizing, and I hate that stuff]
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
"The ginormous pyramid will cover 2.3 square kilometers and will be able to sustain a “community” of up to 1 million. Timelinks claims that their Ziggurat will be capable of running completely off the grid by utilizing steam, wind, and other natural resources. The tightly knit city will also feature a super efficient public transportation system that runs both horizontally and vertically, and plans are being drawn up to utilize both public and private green spaces for agricultural opportunities"
- Andrew Baron
Reminds me, perhaps not inappropriately, of a data center. If you can get millions of brains that close together and they don't take up much room...
- Ray Grieselhuber
دیگه شورشو درآورده این امیر دبی شهربازی درست کرده جای شهر
- Business Blogger【ツ】™
this sounds a bit like the tower of babylon with a 60's project feel. another Green Ghetto brought to us by the self righteous. Why encourage people to live on top of each other like this? Just what the middle east doesn't need is a NYC project like the one's the American Northeast got in the 60's. RIPE for some serious violence. Sustained living? I think this isn't
- Noah David Simon
All of these new monster building being built. What happens the oil runs out and they need to maintain them?
- Moved to Facebook
It looks nice after halfway down and individual post looks nice too
- Brenda McLaren
I wonder what the ratio of people going to the site vs. RSS is. RSS wouldn't see a difference.
- Louis Gray
I could dig up and post exact numbers Louis. Only ~20% of website hits are to the homepage or one of the main pages - so we worked on having the article pages nice. Still a lot more to come out in terms of both design and features.
- nik
Makes sense, Nik. That's likely true across the Web, especially in the tech blog space. Thanks for the answer.
- Louis Gray
The homepage *is* busy. But, overall, I really like the new design. And the article pages are clean and modern.
- Chris Baskind
@Nik Cubrilovic: I love TechCrunch (& predominantly hit via the homepage) but am a little disappointed. I appreciate your position but believe you can find a better, more homepage_reader-friendly solution. On my screen there is still a sizeable margin on either side - I suggest you tweak your layout to increase article space and fill-out the article column to full width after the advertising panel. Please let me know what you think.
- Nick Mutton
It may have less content room but I do like the design alot more. It's alot cleaner.
- Aaron Myers
Aaron: it's cleaner, yes, but now you need to click each article to read the article. Great, generates another page view which is great for advertising, but it's definitely harder to read. Luckily we have RSS, but how long will TC keep giving us full text feeds?
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Eh! I didn't even pay that much attention, my fault. I read my RSS feeds in NetVibes as well as FeedBurner e-mails that come throughout the day. You are right, after a 2nd look - I don't like that I have to make the "jump" to read the whole article.
- Aaron Myers
@Nick: Thats a good point, we are trying to make the width fluid but its not easy to do well. At the moment the width is fixed and thus we need to aim it at the lowest common screen width which nowadays is 1024
- nik
@Aaron. The full articles are now on the permalink because the homepage was becoming too long. Posting full content in chronological order works to a certain point and then it just breaks. We can now have a lot more content on the homepage and users can get a snapshot of the days stories. When you are on the permalink page you can click next/prev story. We have never been pageview driven, if we were we would do what CNET and others do and provide just headlines in RSS and all the other tricks.
- nik
We are just over a single pageview per visitor at the moment, and will always have full text feeds. we are also fully open with crunchbase as well and let anybody suck data. so talking about Techcrunch and pageview whoring at the same time will always be a null argument (same with the outbound link meme from last week). there are a hundred other sites we could bitch about when it comes to pageview whoring :)
- nik
You guys actually visit the website? (Instead of subscribing through your RSS reader)?
- Nikhil Dandekar
We actually did the same thing over at Mashable last month - we decided since my editorials and Sean's lists were consistently running multiple screenfuls (as well as most news posts running longer) that it'd be best to just to put a more thing in than sacrifice load times, a stat which has never been pretty on our site.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
it gives me an horizontal scroll bar with a 1024 resolution... not nice :-(
- Marcos Marado
True. You need at least one more click (from homepage) to read a full article. Greader still looks like the best way to read/follow TC.
- Martin Añazco
I also thought it was hard to read, or clearly focus on what was important. It screams, just read my RSS.
- Dan Rockwell
from twhirl
Yeah, I think it looks like it's 2/3rds ads now.
- Dawn
do people follow techcrunch outside of a feed reader? that sounds inefficient
- JustinLL
from twhirl
"The Onion is standing in the middle of the airport with his pants around his ankles while an angry, brawny “pickle” slips on a examination glove in preparation for a body cavity search. I’ve got so many questions."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
I quite liked that Gorgeous gherkin girl behind the counter, I think she could be pretty tasty! However, a little bit later, I did feel sorry for the tomato on Halloween night..eh.hang on a min WTF!.. But maybe the moral lesson is this, if you're an onion; always make sure you've got your nose clean and your eyes peeled, no matter how many layers you've got..because there's always a gherkin who has a rubber glove; with your name on it!
- Jason
at least the artist had the good taste to pluralize veg... raise your hand if you think that there was a higher up who requested the S to soften the closeness to wet vag?
- Rob Reed
There's also the drawing of the exit. Pretty funny.
- Robert Konigsberg