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剛把 Google Reader 裡數千篇文章一口氣 mark all as read
我这步也省了，超忙～
- Lu Tao
Jackie to Jackie's feed, Funny Pics and Videos, Funny Funny, Funny Stuff, Fun Stuff, Fun Stuff, ART ROOMََََ
Tiago Hoisel作品 - 設計 - 地球的新鮮事 - http://blogearth.org/index...
esorhjy, Cyrille Auber, Kol Tregaskes and 4 other people liked this
"Tiago Hoisel 是巴西一個年輕而且才華洋溢的藝術家。"
- Jackie
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"Não tenho tempo pra mais nada, ser feliz me ... - terababy - Meme - http://meme.yahoo.com/terabab...
!["Não tenho tempo pra mais nada, ser feliz me ... - terababy - Meme](http://d.yimg.com/gg/serenissima/b51787144443b65f69e85040579152be36431c33.jpeg ""Não tenho tempo pra mais nada, ser feliz me ... - terababy - Meme") |
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"Não tenho tempo pra mais nada, ser feliz me ... - terababy - Meme
- terababy
难以置信的海浪摄影 - http://www.yeeyan.com/article...
esorhjy, Jing, spin and Vincent Chu liked this
Friendfeed，朋友之道 http://docs.google.com/View...
abe, Haitai, yezi and 12 other people liked this
呵呵,应Lizunlong同学的邀请而写，主题和发布时间则都是我自己确定的，感谢Lizunlong同学！：）先在ff上首发，回头在放到博客上去～～
- K.D.
其实可以当FF的 软文了
- R093r-
哦 本周终于要去旅游了啊
- R093r-
泰山好玩吗？印象中不是一片光秃秃的山吗？
- kelvin
泰山,爬山
- junrxu
读起来很有感觉，虽然我不常参加评论——平时几乎处于潜水状态。我觉得这篇文章不仅可以让不熟悉FriendFeed的人了解它，也可以让不理解网友友谊的人——比如父辈级人物——获得某一视角上的感悟。谢谢K.D.的支持，你可以随时增减内容，到时我通知你时间再发布到你的博客上，好吗？
- Lizunlong
火车上无聊的话继续去盖楼:)
- R093r-
周末好好休息吧
- R093r-
呃，还是多留点的好
- R093r-
我现在估计500字的作文都写不出来了…… 另外 喝酒的时候我会去找你们的，不过应该是气体形态的:)
- R093r-
她已经成了FF上的吉祥物了 :)
- R093r-
@K.D. 好的，我尽量跟阎王要求多在世上待几天
- R093r-
一定是真爱了 我看到了KD的无私付出 PS：至于ff之道 其中仍存在诸多岔道 最终是否能集大成于道 还得直视引导的作用 走正了 ff必将是有别于twt的新型交互平台之领军人物...
- /sg
KD同学在FF上付出太多了
- R093r-
面對天災，網路還能做什麼？ - http://swalk.blogspot.com/2009...
esorhjy, K.D. and Vincent Chu liked this
"近來，台灣政治人物總愛談歐巴馬，他們總以為弄個微網誌的帳號、Facebook的粉絲團、寫個早安噗、跳跳香蕉舞，就可以像歐巴馬一樣贏得選民的認同。錯了，大大的錯了。歐巴馬的網路動員之所以成功，不是因為他讓選民認識他的私生活，而是因為選民在這自我組織的學習過程中看到改變政治的可能性。我們要的不是政治人物的搏感情，我們要的是政策與資料的透明。網路使用者絕對不是新聞媒體口中的網友鄉民，網路使用者是對正確資訊有渴望、對議題討論有習慣、對組織學習有經驗的公民" - 這段話應該加粗放大
- Roger Chen
from Bookmarklet
Heyhey，看了第一次马英九的網路演讲，后面就没看了～～这个东东，其实自下而上也很重要，互联网在一个社会的成熟度决定了它的领导人是不是能够真的善用网络～
- K.D.
@kdii 完全同意...
- Roger Chen
在大陆，就算你能直接和省长做对话，他也答应你怎么怎么样了，但是到了你身边的执行者这里……
- R093r-
Friendfeed推出了给好友“推荐用户”的功能，刚才整理了一下我的个人订阅，推荐100名偶尔<经常<频繁<沉溺<疯狂 活跃在Friendfeed上的中文用户给大家，感兴趣的同学可以参考订阅，也欢迎各位持续推荐。 http://docs.google.com/View...
esorhjy, baomian, abe and 7 other people liked this
我开个头，大家互相推荐一下，这个功能还蛮有用的：）另外，对英文用户感兴趣的TX，可以关注Kol Tregaskes<https://friendfeed.com/koltreg...>的帖子，他大概明天会推出Top100小组和Top100用户，猜测是英文为主。 http://ff.im/5IcYN
- K.D.
from email
呀，看到我了 : D （图看不到，只剩下文字了）
- Wao || 大号真皮人偶
K.D应该还是学生吧？放假没出去玩？
- 硕少
@Wao 呵呵，我的RPWT，你刷新一下就可以看见所有头像了。
- K.D.
@Shuo Cheng 我也是老爷们儿了，怎么还是学生呢：）））ff推出新功能后，这个推荐清单，十分钟就做出来了，当然累计出这个清单是花了很长时间的
- K.D.
K.D 辛苦了：）
- HealingBrush
@HealingBrush my pleasure:) 另外，昨天晚上 Kol Tregaskes 的推荐清单出来了，主要是英文用户和群组，感兴趣的tx可以看一下 http://docs.google.com/View...
- K.D.
*_* 这两个文档里的图片都看不到，RPWT了我
- Wao || 大号真皮人偶
ctrl+f5? :)
- K.D.
全台現存最老的動物園：新竹市立動物園，門票十元 http://zoo.e-tobe.com/
Download Windows 7 guide book for FREE [download link] - http://www.ziddu.com/downloa...
HealingBrush, esorhjy, Joseph Chen and 4 other people liked this
Really great guide book.
- Nir Ben Yona
Thanks!
- Michael Fidler
Reshared. Thanks.
- Orli Yakuel
Thanks.
- Guy Vander Heyden
Enjoy !
- Nir Ben Yona
fyi: avast gave me a trojan warning when i tried to download
- Tyler Gillies
It's a PDF document, NOD32 wasn't even saying a word.
- Nir Ben Yona
Twitpaper: 质量上乘的 Twitter 背景图库 [T-BACK] (如果你有艺术天赋，建议你自己弄一个，毕竟独一无二的背景会备受青睐；如果你的艺术天赋和我一样不怎的，那就借助别人的现成的设计吧。) http://www.geedr.com/twitpap...
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zgjie, shizhao, ggq and 3 other people liked this
牛！ 这个动画片8错 ～
- Wao || 大号真皮人偶
What is your opinion about... - http://ajbatac.posterous.com/what-is...
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HealingBrush, taglife, zgjie and 114 other people liked this
WTF, hahahahaha!
- Chris Charabaruk
I'm getting funny looks.
- Chris Charabaruk
from jemms feed
- AJ Batac :)
I like how the lid fell back down. Reminded me of Oscar of Sesame Street
- Rodfather
hahaha
- Shevonne
hahahahaha
- The Fat Oracle
Good thing he didn't have a gun, Damn.
- Brent - Yes I am
Like this Brent? http://www.metacafe.com/watch...
- AJ Batac :)
Slightly better with sound: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Andrew C (✓)
That was in the face!
- AJ Batac :)
*dead*
- Derrick
WTF, he didn;t have a gun like a russain guy who killed punker
- Amir
Photoshopped
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
just knowing this is here in my feed gives me great pleasure.
- Vicarbott
He layed that dude OUT. Not his fault...LOL
- Rah-PM 2012
Uh....dude getting shot in the mailbox was not what I'd call entertainment
- Rah-PM 2012
That never gets old
- Brad Williamson
Rahsheen it wasn't real. The dude in the mailbox was actually the one being pranked. They just scared him.
- Jason Williams
Oh snap!
- Stacy Howard Head
I've done the same thing....
- Pierotaglia
Classy moment. Played on 'spooks segments' home videos.
- Zu from AOD
AWESOME!!! LOL
- David Cook
Oh man so totally deserved! Hahahahaha!!!
- Joe "Looptid" Pierce
I can't stop laughing that is so totally funny.
- Dan owns Comicsforge.com
This guy most be highly trained - I've never seen someone react that quickly!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I don't think it was faked. Yes, I can imagine someone reacting that fast. BTW comments on the YouTube video are very sad (and what does race have to do with it anyway?).
- Jill Hurst-Wahl
I think the kid who was scared has some anger management issues - you're first response to someone startling you shouldn't be to knock the shit out of them. That's not healthy.
- Bill Rawlinson
Classic.
- Nate Pilling
reminds me of that song... "Mother requested that I render you unconscious," or something like that.
- Karim
Love how the guy is always at the ready to just pummel. What a way to live.
- Josh Haley
ADMINISTRIVIA: if you look at it on the permalinked page <http://ff.im/2VHDF>, rather than any aggregate one, initially it comes up quite choppy (could be my connection though). I don't know how you did it, assume a server hack refreshing individual frames in 0.2 sec increments, but you should look at what looks like a better, no-chop implementation of animated gifs, Philipp Lenssen's friendfeeding app: <http://friendfeed.com/philipp...>
- ianf ⌘
Wow :-)
- امیر؟
awesome :)
- ★ Soner Gönül
I can watch it forever :))
- Лёша
LOL .How do u make it animated on friendfeed? :-)
- kooki
K.O.
- Ray(http://sangu.me)
LOL
- stanjourdan
Violence is cool uh.
- orionstarr
Damn, no hesitation.
- ralphsaunders
good XD
- taglife
FriendFeed is a feed reader. Yes or no?
Mitchell Tsai, Peter Efland, Steve Chou and 105 other people liked this
Yes, with filters, friends, likes and stuff
- Charbax
yes, I think that is what it is.
- Cat West
No, can't read full text for blog-length items.
- Bruce Lewis
Yes. I'd have to say it is a feed aggregator...it pulls in feeds from Google Reader, Twitter, Disqus, Flickr, Delicious, Digg, etc.
- Kenneth
But why can't we just import our OPML or sinle RSS feeds somewhere into FriendFeed without having to dump those feeds one by one in groups, that doesn't make sense
- Charbax
no. can't simply mark items as read, subscription is not a simple one click operation
- James Beake
It is pretty remarkable that after all this time FF still can't import/export subscription lists.
- Dave Winer
FriendFeed should somehow automatically group feed items so I don't get bombarded by 100 people all retweeting, liking and commenting the same things.. It should basically create a techmeme of feed items on-the-fly
- Charbax
yes
- The Amber
in a non-rss kind of way it's a feed breeder -- aggregates feeds and conversation and distributes back out also
- Adrian Chan
No, because it doesn't read feeds, it just posts headlines.
- Louis Gray
No, I need full-text feeds. Headlines don't count.
- Alex Scrivener
yes
- Wayne Sutton
it is a feed reader and a lot more. its ability to function as a feed reader is probly one of its weakest functions. (so far) one of its strongest functions is to start discussions which are so damn easy and efficient that i can see ppl giving up on blogging and sticking to friendfeed.
- Freddie Benjamin
yes. it has a summary of the posts it aggregates. err yeah
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
No, FriendFeed is not a feed reader
- Bill
I prefer Google Reader, because it's easier to privately star stuff in GReader than it is to reshare stuff to a private FriendFeed room. Plus you can mark items as read. I actually view http://friendfeed.com/lastfmf... via Google Reader rather than FriendFeed.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Nope.
- Rah-PM 2012
Can I read feeds in FriendFeed - yes. Does that mean it is a feed reader - no. The question is to fraught with subjectivity in the end. But if you forced me to say what it is - it's a data aggregator and transformation platform.
- AJ Kohn
Sure, like a search engine is a feed reader.
- Daniel Dulitz
Nope - no way.
- Julie
Imaginary Friend makes it so
- Bryan R. Adams
Yes, for some types of feeds. I.e. anything not requiring much in the way of item payloads.
- Kevin Johnson
FriendFeed is def a feed reader. I prefer it to Google Reader.
- Shawn Hickman
FF is Live Feed Reader
- ThinkEzy
It is not now ... but getting dangerously closer ...
- Amani
I read feeds on friendfeed
- BEX
yes
- sean percival
no
- Matthew
It depends. FriendFeed is whatever you make of it. If you import RSS feeds, then FriendFeed will be an aspect of a feed reader.
- imabonehead
FriendFeed and Twitter - the best tech space.
- Igor Poltavskiy
Nope, but it's a Social Feed Reader. You read items sourced and recommended (= posted) by your friends.
- Ahsan Ali
Yes
- Justin Yost
s/is/can be used as/ -- Yes.
- Rah-PM 2012
Since you can only read headlines and not full posts, I wouldn't call FF an RSS reader just yet.
- Chris Rossini
from BuddyFeed
I would call Friend Feed and twitter "feed discovery engines" and "content discussion facilitators" rather than feed readers. I still use Google Reader -- too much in depth content and other things that I can't really get from FF.
- Travis B. Hartwell
Yes in some sense
- Håkan Dahlström
indeed
- americanm
Isn't FriendFeed a feed aggregator?
- Chris Heath
It is, if you actually read the feeds.
- vimoh
yep!
- Jay
Just as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are turtles.
- Parth Awasthi
Yes, it is. But that's just the beginning.
- Mark Evans
No, I would say FF is a feed streamer, not reader. (and a mediocre aggregator)
- William Mougayar
So if it's an aggregator of feeds, how is it a feed reader? Just to be clear, my answer to Dave's question is: No, ff is not a feed reader.
- Chris Heath
Social Feed Aggregation*
- Chris Heath
* see site for details, some restrictions apply
- Chris Heath
+1 for no because it doesn't grab content, only headlines.
- Brett Kelly
thoughts' reader:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
Out of roughly 50 responses: 53% YES, FF is a feed reader, 31% NO, 16% didn't exactly answer the question.
- Mark Evans
I've been debating whether Twitter is replacing Google Reader and/or Techmeme. Friendfeed definitely could be one too.
- Mario Sundar
Not a feed reader for text posts (blogs). Feed reader for everything else.
- Mohamed J
better one than twitter, but NO
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Better than twitter but it's not a full replacement, either
- Michael Fidler
Yes. Once FriendFeed decides to turn on something like what Twitter just destroyed (replies) it would be even better
- Antonio Altamirano
A feedreader, no! There is no way anyone can read multiple blogs and communicate at the same time in the real-time realm
- Joe Dawson
Similar aspects I suppose but RSS is just available, whereas FriendFeed is something like SRSS - Syndicated RSS. Or maybe CRSS - consolidated RSS.
- Rick Cogley
No
- Chris Nixon
from BuddyFeed
No.
- Damond Nollan
I used to subscribe to my friends RSS feeds using Google Reader, but quit when FF came about because they were so hard to keep up with and not everything had an RSS feed. I guess that makes it a feed reader, so yes.
- Jesse Hattabaugh
Yep, but not as good as Google Reader... yet. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
No. FriendFeed is for Friends. Feeds are not friends. Though, I would love to use FriendFeed for feeds also - if only it was easy to separate people I follow and blogs (non-personalized) I read.
- Ihar Mahaniok
No it's not... you cannot read full posts there.
- Bhavesh
No. Friendfeed was not intentended to be feed reader. Although I use this room as my second feed reader http://friendfeed.com/mix-room
- arjo
No. You have to leave the site to read. It would be nice if Google Reader live updated like FF or the option to view the full post in FF existed.
- Peter Warnock
No, it lacks some of the key features needed in a feed reader but has other features that make it a different thing altogether
- M F
No, you have to leave FriendFeed to see the article.
- Mike Roberts
No.
- tehKenny
No.
- dkb
The answer is either: no, not at all. Or yes, but it is a very limited one that is very unlimited in terms of others' voices.
- C. K. Sample III
To a point it is.
- Adam Martin
It's a real-time chat room.
- William Mougayar
FF is not your father's feed reader. It is a new gen user sweatshop producing metadata for its own search engine and maybe track equivalent.
- Mindaugas Dagys
Yes.
- Vincent Wright
It certainly depends on how you use readers. FriendFeed isn't going to do everything I use Google Reader for. That being said, FriendFeed would probably work better for many of feeds I actually subscribe to.
- Camden
a more customizable feed reader - feed reader to a lifestream
- Elizabeth Koh
yepper!
- Susan Beebe
Yes, *but* (and this is a big one), it does not provide enough facility to serve as a non-realtime reader. I cannot pick up where I left off on a feed or know what I read or didn't read. It lacks the controls to be effective in that space which, I think, is a critical feature of a feed reader.
- Kevin Kuphal
Read feeds on Friendfeed Don't make Friendfeed a feed reader.
- CantorJF
no, I can't track what I've read and what I haven't.
- dpurrington
I think its more of a meta-feed reader in a microscale. It picks up on the feeds of others, who in turn are reading the news rss feeds, thus meta. It's also on a microscale because, as mentioned before it's not real time, it's only the headlines with no descriptions and it still connects to the echo chamber as opposed to outside world.
- Shane Tilton
Well, compare this http://ff.im/2RXFH to this http://is.gd/zO1f . The question should be, how good is FreindFeed as a Feed Reader? It's bringing more value to the use of RSS feeds; more than just presenting them, regardless of each item being full post or just headline.
- zeroinfluencer
Dave, Could FriendFeed be a good email client?
- zeroinfluencer
FriendFeed is a task list. Yes or no?
- dpurrington
FF is my magazine for browsing. I'm not catching up on FF posts like I do in Google Reader. I check the front page of FF, drop some comments, and then move on while it stays open in another tab.
- Joel Zehring
No, but that doesn't make it inferior. It's a wholly different animal.
- Daniel Miessler
(Of 94): Y:16 | N:27 | (?):51 - answers on this thread so far (based on this script: http://wittman.org/project... )
- Micah
Not necessarily. If all my RSS subscriptions were in Friendfeed, it would move way too fast. RSS is something I can still take at my own pace. Which is why I don't think it's dead, like some people would say.
- Robert de Castro
from twhirl
Nope, not for me.
- Adnan
It's an improved feed reader.
- Diego Espinoza V.
No way. Nothing beats a good google reader/postrank/feedly combo. Oh, unless google's servers are not responding like today, in which case friendfeed might be a nice backup.
- Mike Elliott
I'd say no, because it's the conversations that seem to have more draw / weight than the content (like a slashdot). It's a fuzzy line though, I could easily see the argument for.
- mikepk
No.
- Ken Sheppardson
Both. Depends on the user.
- David Damore
I tried to use it as FeedReader, but without being able to view full posts, it just didn't work.
- James Ostheimer
No. It's way better!
- David Cook
from fftogo
I'm torn on how to answer this. I've been back and forth with Google Reader and FF. If there was a simple way to import all my GR feeds into FF and de-dup it would help some. Sometimes all I want to do is quickly scan what's new and GR is fast, in fact rather amazingly so on the iPhone. But just reading feeds can be like empty calories. Having real discussions on selected topic has...
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- Tom Parish
Yes.
- Steve Rubel
Technically, yes. But it doesn't serve the same function as a dedicated feed reader.
- John Federico
I don't really get the "FriendFeed is a feed reader" logic. Is TechMeme a feed reader? I mean, I can't actually *READ* feeds in FriendFeed, I just get links to articles.
- Ken Sheppardson
what friendfeed does best is create an environment for people to connect and have conversations. It is more a networking tool than a reading tool. Sometimes you want to go to a bar an network and sometimes you want to go to a library and read.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Ken, yeah you can only read the headlines (or maybe the first sentence or two if the feed is set up to do a first comment type thing here) but past that... you're not reading the story/article/blogpost in friendfeed - you might discuss it within friendfeed (which is awesome, btw) but once again - NO - friendfeed is not a feed reader
- Chris Heath
No. It is a social feed aggregator with filters. It's limited in that you can read feeds of existing FriendFeed users, groups, or external feeds by creating "Imaginary Friends". However, Imaginary Friends is a rather cumbersome way to add external feeds. No facility exists for easily adding a list of feeds such as by importing an OPML file.
- Derek Mahar
in part yes.
- Thomas Hawk
An interactive feed reader, yes
- Murat Gök
No - I can't read the articles right on FriendFeed. It also doesn't require RSS to publish.
- Jesse Stay
No - to read the blogs and articles I still need Google Reader.
- Antoine Bertier
No, because -- in addition to what William Mougayar said -- there's no tagging of articles (just liking).
- Kawika Holbrook
No. Feeds are the internet data, tv, radio, cd/dvd/comic book collections and plumbing in the house. But people living in the house is the lead story.
- Micah
I can't answer yes or no : it is a social feed agregator
- stanjourdan
a feed reader, yes, and much more. I use it more and more
- Nadine Pestourie
No, because beyond choosing who I follow, I have no choice in what the rest of you put in it. I propose that FriendFeed is a "social media service."
- David Chartier
from BuddyFeed
No, I still use Google Reader to stay up-to date...to much noise on FriendFeed even with filters.
- Rajiv Doshi
It's interesting to see everyone who says it's not a feed reader. It most definitely is. You can subscribe to RSS feeds here. So it is defacto a feed reader. Now, is it a good one? Not if you want more than headlines. If you want full text Google Reader or other readers are much better.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert you got a point here. Does this mean it "might" be our future feed reader with a bit of improvement?
- giuseppe c. | markgreene
I think Google Reader is moving more toward a FriendFeed model with all of the Share and Comment features they have been adding, but they are fundamentally different because there is no post feature with any RSS reader.
- Brandon Hall
As i said elsewhere, Google Reader is my favorite feed reader because i can mark things as read/unread, so i don't miss anything. FF will never get this feature because the goal in FF is to go back to items you liked or commented. On Greader, once you've read it, you don't go back. As a consequence, Greader will remain my favorite feed reader.
- stanjourdan
giuseppe: I haven't used Google Reader much since I've gotten addicted to friendfeed. I always seem to get the most important news here first and when I go to Google Reader it is all old to me. I used to be Google Reader's top user, so this change in my behavior is interesting to me.
- Robert Scoble
Sure it is--though I don't is as such
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
With Google Reader shortcuts, i can skip very quickly between many items so I can scan much more information efficiently. However, on Greader you've to make a high selection of good feeds you really want to read fequently. Otherwise, it becomes evil!
- stanjourdan
absolutely!
- Sinem Co
Yes, but it's a "newspaper" style feed reader, as opposed to an "inbox" style reader.
- Tristan Seligmann
No.
- Brandon Mendelson
totally disagree with Tristan
- stanjourdan
Yes
- Arda Çetin
For me, yes. At least in part. I recently created a News group and added a few news feeds to it (techmeme etc). I then switched on desktop notifications for this group so I effectively now have a real time feed reader / news ticker.
- Jamie
Jamie, I don't think it is worth. With this system you don't enjoy the FF community (i guess nobody "like" your entries or comment them so that you don't see what's important). Moreover you don't have benefit from Greader shortcuts and read/unread status.
- stanjourdan
No, friendfeed is not just a feedreader, feedly do a better job for feeds reading.
- David Foucher
BTW in my opinion, the interest of FF is that people select the items they share so that you get the best in your feeds
- stanjourdan
Pretty much yes.though thats not its primart function.
- Abhishek Sharma
yes, it's true and http://friendfeed.com/technol... doing that things ;-)
- Sakib Mahmud
FriendFeed is also a feed that goes to my google reader :-)
- David Foucher
O_o ?!
- stanjourdan
Yes, but only one facet of many. It's a poor feed reader if you plan on reading everything. It's a good one if you plan on only reading what is deemed popular by those you follow.
- xero
Stanislas - I think you misinterpreted me. I don't add the news feeds to my profile - I subscribe to them as they are already on FF. So for high volume RSS feeds like TechMeme, TechCrunch and so on I just view them as real time notifications. I don't need them piling up as unread items in Google Reader, which I use solely for low volume, high quality feeds where I need to see every item (daring fireball, carnage4life, codinghorror etc)
- Jamie
Jamie : Ok I understand. In fact you made a friendlist for News feed more than a News "room" (?)
- stanjourdan
UPDATE: (Of 145): Y:27 | N:43 | (?):75 - answers on this thread so far (based on this script: http://wittman.org/project... )
- Micah
Definitely Yes.
- stark
No, it doesn't show full feeds...only titles.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yes.
- Bill Romanos
Clearly there's a whole lot of variation in what people actually expect from a "feed reader". Seems like some people think it means "anything that uses RSS/Atom to generate a list of web pages"
- Ken Sheppardson
yes
- Danilo P.
and now I really want that there would be a feature to "unsubscribe from comments"... I am getting every phrase in my gtalk :)
- Ihar Mahaniok
Hence the inclusion of the word "feed". :)
- Kelly McAlearney
Yes, a Feed reader of «Friends'» Feeds -- make it «Fellows'» or «Follows'» -- with steroids (conversations).
- Jorge Martins Rosa
Ff technically reads feeds but that is not where their value - aggregation -is. It is a discovery platform powered by RSS and API-based clients can potentially fill the perceived expectation gap with current feed readers.
- Alberto Saavedra
from Nambu
Yes, but with added value, in that we can discuss aggregated content on the fly, including photos, video, music, etc., not just blogs and text posts.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Not yet. It will get there. News outside tech is still scarce on FF
- Francine Hardaway
from BuddyFeed
No, and yes
- Christian Burns
........what if it was?? Leave Friendfeed a-l-o-n-e !!! please !! .. leave it alone , Dave ! .. please : ==== http://gog.is/chris+crocker
- pb:
Ihar - the notifications section of your settings lets you choose which friend lists go to IM, email, and the desktop client... in lieu of frienfeed allowing us to unsub from each thread you can use the friend lists to section off the stuff you do and don't want going to your IM client
- Chris Heath
FriendFeed functions like a feed reader in that it gets (most of) its content from other sources. I don't believe it stores copies of the results (would it even be authorized to do so??) so I don't see how it could ever provide search capability. Big difference from TW which has its own content DB
- David Sanger
Yes. you import feeds, I've done this many times with 'imaginery friends'
- Jeremiah Owyang
FriendFeed is definitely a feed reader, since most of the content you'll find is brought in from RSS sources, such as YouTube or a personal blog.
- Thomas Ward
I love questions and answers like this -- They prove my thesis that "nobody gets anything," which, of course, is an ironic way of saying, "everyone gets anything in their own way." Of course, FriendFeed is a news reader. And of course it's not. (Me, personally. I like my "readers" to have an export feature, i.e., OPML)
- Rex Hammock
I like my readers to have an OPML *import* feature, too!
- Derek Mahar
or even an rss import for anything other than my own feeds
- Chris Nixon
from IM
Chris, you can import one or more RSS feeds by creating an "Imaginary Friend" and adding those feeds. It's better than nothing, but not nearly as convenient as OPML import.
- Derek Mahar
Its a bit convoluted. I'll stick with a feed reader for reading feeds. FriendFeed is about my friends feeds.
- Chris Nixon
from IM
It's the big-ass river of RSS. I like it.
- Pete Gilbert
Chris, I agree! Friendfeed is more of social feed aggregator than a reader. Google Reader is a good reader, but unlike Friendfeed, it doesn't (yet) allow you to share a set of feeds by default. You must explicitly share each item. It also doesn't appear to make comments public.
- Derek Mahar
Actually, I think I was incorrect when I stated that Google Reader comments are not public. I do see comments that others have posted to friends' shared items, so I guess comments must be public.
- Derek Mahar
Yes, FriendFeed qualifies as a feed reader.
- Mike Reynolds
If it is a feed reader, it sucks. There's no way to view the content of the RSS feed items. I have to click each and every story to read it. Headlines only? No thanks. I'd say no, because compared to Google Reader, Bloglines, NetNewsWire, FeedDemon, it fails as a feed reader.
- Bwana ☠
I'm with Bwana (it also has no import/export subscription function). I have lobbied for an iGoogle like popup in the past so I will put in my .02 here as well. I would like it to be a good feed reader but it just doesn't cut it now.
- Brian Sullivan
hoped so, but not yet
- Peter Efland
I re-iterate my earlier No vote. A good feed reader like Google Reader or Bloglines remembers the items that you've read, but this memory is absent from Friendfeed.
- Derek Mahar
Macworld reviews BuddyFeed 2.0 - FriendFeed client for the iPhone - http://www.macworld.com/article...
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Hey I'm the first one in that pic! w00t!
- C. K. Sample III
Please can we get this for Blackberry!
- Ms_Krista
I far prefer Friendfeed's own iPhone-compatible web page. You can do likes in place, you see comments inline, it just works better than BuddyFeed.
- Leo Laporte
I got BuddyFeed a few days ago, but have found myself using the /iphone web interface instead just because it requires fewer taps, etc. Neither of them have the equivalent of "My discussions", which is a bummer.
- Brett Kelly
as cool as the iphone is I cant get one until they change the keyboard... I use my blackberry for work and I type a lot on it.. u can't really type out long emails with an iphone.
- Jason Pollock
@Jason - I've written entire blog posts on my iPhone. It's not too hard once you've had some practice :)
- Brett Kelly
I agree with Brett. I took my touch to Europe and conducted 3 weeks worth of business and personal stuff, including blogging, with no issues. The more you use the soft keyboard, the better you'll get.
- Stan Augustyniewicz
@Leo I wish these apps cached data.
- Steve Rubel
agree with leo - the web interface on the iphone is great
- andy brudtkuhl
Cannot complain with the nice web interface.
- Ashish
I'm using Nambu, not perfect but you have twetter and ff in the same app
- David Foucher
Too many taps in BuddyFeed. I'm back in Safari on iPhone FF.
- John Francis
I prefer the BuddyFeed interface to Nambu, and since I'm sticking to Tweetie for my Twitter stuff, I'll probably shelve Nambu for now. Yes, the mobile web interface for FF is pretty good, but I really like BuddyFeed's implementation. Certainly don't regret dropping $3 for it. Like most iPhone apps of this kind, I'll use it until it frustrates me or something better comes along. Me likey.
- Victor Kamutzki
Off topic, but here's another nod for the iPhone keyboard. I type faster on this than any BB, WinMo, Symbian, Nokia, Sony Ericsson, or dumbphone I've ever owned. Love it.
- David Chartier
from BuddyFeed
As FriendFeed can send "shameless self-promotion" in your feed, this hints how future ads could be inserted. Have you seen this?
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Just saw this, interesting development.
- Erik Magraken
The only thing would be to let us comment on it :D
- Johnny
Yes it just did, and see people are already talking...these form of ads will be more interactive on FF
- Asankhaya Sharma
Hide is the only option. I can't even like it.
- Louis Gray
this is right above your post in my home feed - interesting
- Nathan Chase
Nathan, we operate in real time.
- Louis Gray
Neat. But agree we'd love to comment.
- Paola Bonomo
it is too bad we can't like it, or comment on it - interactive ads might not be a bad idea
- Nathan Chase
@Louis - right!
- Nathan Chase
If it were an ad, would the tendency be to provide negative feedback? Should it be one giant conversation FriendFeed wide? Should you only see comments from your friends?
- Louis Gray
Louis, you're slacking :P http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
ditto about comments, seemed strange not being able to...even if I wasn't going to
- Rick Bucich
Good work, Mike. :)
- Louis Gray
I like that you can't comment or like it. Otherwise, it'd keep getting bumped up. I'm not sure we'd want ads to keep being bumped up.
- Rochelle
haha - "Your news is 4 minutes old. FAIL!" :)
- Nathan Chase
What if the ad permanently held the third position from the top in your stream, Rochelle?
- Louis Gray
just saw it.
- Laura Norvig
Pff, beat ya Slayer :) Though didn't include a pic, Mo Fail!
- Mo Kargas
It's not a terrible idea for monetization - if you don't like the ad, just Hide it.
- Nathan Chase
Bleh.
- Derrick
Louis, for how long? If an ad stayed there forever, I'd have a problem with that. I'd want a premium/paid membership to get rid of it.
- Rochelle
@Nathan, can you do 'hide all like this' Or is that something we may end up paying for? Hmm
- Mo Kargas
I don't know, Rochelle. I'm not in charge. :)
- Louis Gray
@Rochelle - some ads people want to see. Super Bowl commericals for example.
- Nathan Chase
It's a great idea and you can hide them.
- Michael Fidler
Nathan, if people want to see the ads on FriendFeed, then they can opt to not pay for a premium membership and can see all of the ads. :)
- Rochelle
I have no problem with this, it's the slickest implementation of ads I think I've ever seen (besides Google AdWords), as long as they stay away from ad companies that don't screen their ads and through popups and malware on everyone's computer.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Borrowed from Facebook "sponsored stories." Turnabout is fair play
- Christian Anderson
I understand this is the direction Facebook is taking also
- Michael Fidler
The potential of this just prepares me to yearn for a paid option.
- Akiva
Yeah. I could see FriendFeed power users paying to keep the ads off as a premium service. Although some people might just leave FriendFeed entirely - or some enterprisiing Greasemonkey/Stylish hacker would discover a way to hide them all via scripting
- Nathan Chase
I wonder what sort of targeting will they use for ads within feeds, when someone is bashing twitter it may seem a good time to show ad for a competitive service (say ff)
- Asankhaya Sharma
The new logon has been very successful so far. This just ensures that more people will see it. They should feature this on every individual item/post page when someone views it who's not logged in
- Michael Fidler
It is really strange not to be able to like or comment on it, but now that it shows up on the subscription management page, I guess it's really just more along the lines of an alert. I *do* like it, and the timing is sure 'nuff good.
- Kathy Fitch
They probably don't want people to comment on it because most of the comments would be complaints (not now, maybe, but later).
- Lindsay
True, Lindsay--but all the more reason to let 'er rip, I always think. Never know what ideas will be gleaned. Anyway, I'm sure they knew we'd discuss and examine elsewhere.
- Kathy Fitch
Confirmed. http://ff.im/2Qb7k
- Jay Cuthrell
They should add 'like' to ads if this is the monetisation strategy. Similar to the way you can up vote ads in reddit. Hide counts as a down vote
- Glenn Slaven
Nice--very nice--it updates. Keeps tabs on new twitter friends not yet added here. Handy. (But yes, of course, an ad could be pushed in just the same way. One of the perks/temptations of being the one with the keys to the system. Can't deny it's efficient for bulletins, though.)
- Kathy Fitch
Jay, what are you saying is "confirmed"?
- Rochelle
it had a hide option...I hid it. :)
- dafire
Also had the permalink so the feature could easily be located for future reference.
- Kathy Fitch
I don't mind the unit per se, but not being able to comment on it seems antithetical to what FriendFeed has been working towards. And ... wouldn't you want a Like or Share option too?
- AJ Kohn
Thanks to your post (and all the similar ones) it's becoming part of a viral self-promotion campaign :-)
- gib
The disturbing thing to me would be if future ads were very sticky, and also from unscrupulous advertisers. (like the ones on Facebook) - Sitcky: I just don't have the screen realestate to spare for ad space like that ad had. Evil advertisers on Facebook: the damn IQ quizzes and Make Money Fast Online crap. I see enough on Facebook and twitter of all that. Liking ads is key. Commenting would be even better.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
ON another Note: I WOULD like to see Important FriendFeed announcements take this format: Planned outages, Known feed issues (i.e. AOL mail not going, Faceook status not importing, Twitter link down etc). And These should be sticky until acknowledged.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I wouldn't consider this a "shameless ad". It is informative and helps one to use the product better. I benefited from it.
- Roebot
I saw it when it happened. At least they labeled it appropriately.
- Martha
Yeah. Hid it immediately. Hrmph.
- Ladyepiphanybug
I just added 128 more Twitter friends to my Twitter Clone list. They just keep coming!
- Louis Gray
Just saw this,is this FF's ad business model?
- Steve Chou
At least these guys have a potential business model! I won't mind *a few* such "shameless self promotions" or ads per day.
- Vijay
it's much too early still for FriendFeed to advertise, but probably in the end offering an ad free paid account and a free ad supported account make sense.
- Thomas Hawk
Saw this yesterday. I don't mind it but I think Thomas' idea is the best option.
- Al Stevens
@Nathan Chase I put this out on day zero of this new entry type http://friendfeed.com/micahwi...
- Micah
This thread was discussed on the FFundercats (http://www.ffundercats.com/2009...)
- Josh Haley
Reder http://timesreader.nytimes.com/timesre... NYTimes 擁抱新科技不遺餘力，這玩意我覺得蠻棒的。拿來收點費用我覺得也頗合理。
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没有层次的标签意义不大，除了做为网站盲目的自我彰显和鼓吹，就是轻量级用户用起来还算方便了。绝大部分标签会随着时间而被淹没。delicious的tag bundle就是一种标签层次化的方法，可惜的是并没有太多网站能够看到。
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层次如何划分呢？预先划分好还是由用户来划分？
- Ray(http://sangu.me)
应该让用户来划分，无论是wiki还是delicious都是这样做的。你划分的不好大家可以坐下来讨论嘛
- terababy
“标签淹没”很典型的一个现象就是用户的界面有很长很长的一个列表来显示用过的标签，另一个现象是标签云，只有用到最多的标签才用最大字体表示，用到最少的标签最小的字体的表示。
- terababy
ff beta 为什么一定要那么突出"人"呢? 我对"你"根本不感兴趣, 我更多关注的是做为载体的你所产生的内容和信息
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这应该是它 twitter 化的一个最明显的特征了。
- Zoll
ff beta 完全失去了阅读信息的焦点, 我都不知道阅读哪些, 从哪阅读了, nnd, 怎么可以取消服务类别提示呢....
- Roamlog
漫步可以用filters功能哇
- jessie
我比较相反，我对信息并不十分在乎，因为我知道这些信息99.99%都如同亚马逊河里面的流水一样，可以鞠起一捧，也可以放眼而望。我在乎的是人，我看到那背后活生生的人。
- Aether
@Aether +1 ：）
- K.D.
在网络上, 不通过文字, 内容, 信息这些东西, 还有"他"所关注的东西, 所分享的东西, 你根本无法了解"他", 另外, 我就算对"他"感兴趣, 但也不会一直感兴趣, 或对"他"所产生的一切内容感兴趣
- Roamlog
恩，信息是一个渠道，但是我相对而言不会停留在渠道上，所以有趣的内容只是手段，你看，我是在和你——一个活生生的人在聊天，而不是和一堆文字在较劲，虽然，我们都是通过文字在对话：）
- Aether
你所说的这些, 我觉得更适合 twitter , twitter 基本全是对话, 而 ff 不同, 它首先是一个聚合, 一个 lifestream, 一个通过机器人进行内容整合的工具或平台, 对话只是其中的一小部分...
- Roamlog
我还是赞同漫步的观点，各司其职，如果说作为交流平台 或者 人际网络，ff 绝对无法与 twitter 媲美。
- Zoll
晚上花时间阅读一下国外关于 ff beta 的讨论及文章, 也许会有不少收获
- Roamlog
当然, 我对于 ff beta 版的抵触其中一个重要原因就是 UI ,我喜欢简洁的设计, 我讨厌眼花缭乱, 五颜六色..
- Roamlog
“而 ff 不同, 它首先是一个聚合, 一个 lifestream” ------个人感觉，这就是这次ff改版存在风险的地方--ff似乎一下子失去了定位，它要变成什么？Twitter吗？No！ff是以一个lifestream平台出现的，信息是它的最重要的内容之一，而这些信息都是所加好友过滤给你的，是你选择的对你有价值的信息（没价值你大概也会退订或者hide）。现在FF似乎要变成Twitter了，或许它看出来manage the information of the world (这是google的目标)是个极其艰巨的任务，而把目标转向人似乎要容易些，其实这对于ff来说是个非常大的变化。
- K.D.
哈哈，风格变化是不小。我的Twiiter上主要都是碎语和想法，因为我在后台设置了不显示除了直接@reply我以外的所有交谈，所以我的首页会比较安静，像是蓝色娴静的湖水。
- Aether
呵呵, 那你是完全沉浸在个人世界里了, 哇哈哈, 偶尔探出头透下气, XD
- Roamlog
@K.D 我也不清楚 ff 到底想干吗? 从博客上大概可得知是让大家更多的关注内容? 关注那些在 ff 上出现的产生的有价值的内容, 它是这样说的, 但为什么要提升"人"的地位呢? 是引导大家更多的是主动产生有价值的内容吗 (含对话, 讨论)? 我是真的不知道左侧那一排头像对我来说有什么用, 我更愿意用 id 去区分一个人, 而不是头像, 理论上讲 id 是固定的, 而头像是非常不固定的...
- Roamlog
觉得beta版最终定下来之前，ff团队会在“twitter化”和原版之间做一个调和。filter创建功能似乎是一个重要方向，把你所有关注的信息创建filter，这是偏“信息”的做法。
- K.D.
鼓励上传真人头像（似乎FF团队都是真人头像）？最后还是成为一个以lifestream为包装的SNS？
- Felix|非
@Roamlog 如果陷入Friendfeed的matrix，就会被无边的信息所吞没，不如跳出来，跳到信息发出的主体---人，这样信息会更有意义：）
- K.D.
附议K.D，信息交给强大的搜索功能，有了group,DM，更便利人与人之间的互动。。
- Felix|非
关于真人头像, 这个不用鼓励, 国外的用户基本上这么做, 而国内的用户基本上不这么做, 截然相反, 呵呵, twitter 上也一样, 这是国内外的文化差异, 两种做法都没有明显的优势或一定要这么做, 所以我觉得不太可能...
- Roamlog
国内这么做太危险了。。。
- kang
话说这个讨论串蛮长的~中文难得
- kang
观点不变，copy一哈：觉得不习惯、没个性都正常，但作为开发者，过多考虑全局也更正常，显然twitter布局更易上手，毕竟twitter热成这样，向其的用户靠拢些、招招手并不丢人，有些同学或许想玩成小众里的小众，但这不会完全成为开发者的想法，若开发者想正式启用此beta，我觉得，还是做成可切换的选项更为适宜...
- /sg
觉得 ff beta 会出现由信息聚合向讨论组发展的趋势。它的确比 twitter 更适合有针对性的讨论。也许这一点，在商业领域能够体现出比之 twitter 更高的价值。
- Zoll
ff 的商业模式比 twitter 的更不明朗........
- Roamlog
就算先不谈商业模式，你们认为若不做些调整，FF的用户(还不能算纯聚合的)基数该如何快速增长，毕竟其比tw更小众，没有真正的用户基数做底，还能谈啥其他。
- /sg
twitter和微博客在中国也不大众啊。。。
- kang
相比 twitter, 中文用户对 ff 更不感兴趣, 从目前的情况来看, ff 中文圈和英文圈相差太远了, 讨论氛围真的不怎么样...
- Roamlog
无奈啊。。我拉了人来然后都不讨论的。。
- kang
@kang @Roamlog 与tw一样，FF里中文用户也只是一小撮里的一小撮，但FF还给个中文，tw呢，给的日文 ==
- /sg
给中文怕被墙吧 哈哈
- 佛徒
我曾经预言过Friendfeed应该大头像更好，没想到成真了，更娱乐化，社交化。原本的只是评论，看多了，有点严肃的感觉，难以吸引更多用户。
- zgjie
这个很好理解吧，FF想做自己的东西，而不是像以前一样给人一种聚合的工具的感觉，这样做事为了淡化了其他services形象，而突出了自己的内容。
- 拓 | wavesand
这是"Friend"feed 当然以人为中心.
- mmyjona
没有人，又何来信息？以人为纽带，是淘汰不需要的信息的最好手段吧。
- Tony
暂时没用beta
- coolxll
beta 很不好用。。。给个旧版界面登录的地方吧
- coolxll
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