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Complaints - http://akma.disseminary.org/...
"Not so sure about the epithet “ancient”but glad to see you two have “met”"
- Euan
If you are a broadcaster watch this - http://www.euansemple.com/theobvi...
link?
- Gaspar Torriero
The player embed didn't work so I took the link down http://mashable.com/2009... Cheers Euan On 13 Oct 2009, at 07:26, Gaspar Torriero wrote:
- Euan
from email
thanks, real good talk
- Gaspar Torriero
What is an asshole? - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
Monica Loredan liked this
I could find you many examples if you are really asking! ;-)
- Euan
Yeah, they are not that rare. But Dave has a pretty good one.
- Paolo Valdemarin
:-)
- Euan
Dave has a pretty good what???
- Luca Sofri
Example ;-)
- Paolo Valdemarin
from iPhone
I don't know if I like the direction this is taking - but for more research you all may check out Bob Sutton's latest work
- Martin Koser
forgot the smiley (and I must say I so dig Dave's rants rants rants) ;)
- Martin Koser
Fiat Visa - http://akma.disseminary.org/...
"I’ve been on holiday and missing a lot of the dram over your application. What nightmare! Fingers crossed this is it."
- Euan
crossing all the crossable
- Gaspar Torriero
Morning coffee in High Holborn - http://neville.posterous.com/morning...
I have always loved the look of that building but never been in it
- Euan
Panel Discussion - Dawkins, Tyson, Druyan, Stenger, Grothe - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Euan liked this
It was worth waiting to the end to hear Druyan tell Dawkins to shut up and make the case for not antagonising people but having a "better" story. "Scientists don't burn people at the stake"
- Euan
The great WiFi robbery: police to patrol down your street | smh.com.au - http://www.smh.com.au/technol...
Rob Michael (Atmos Trio) liked this
"The Queensland Police fraud squad says it will be the first police force in the world to go on "wardriving" missions to warn homes and businesses if their wireless networks are not secure. [...]"
- Neville Hobson
from Bookmarklet
plonkers!
- Euan
My GuruOnline social media interview is here http://www.guruonline.tv/busines... You can link to individual answers so pass it on if you find them useful!
These are so well done - congrats Euan
- Rob Paterson
Bloody hell .... just had a lie in!
What is one of those?
- Gerard van Schip
I know! Not had one for ages.
- Euan
until when? how many hours did you sleep?
- Thomas Power
Hitler finds out Michael Jackson has died. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Valley, james reilly, K.D. and 12 other people liked this
This is so wrong... but really really funny!
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Ok there are tons of current event humor here besides MJ. Great job whoever did this.
- CW™
No Twitter for Hitler. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Andrew Trinh
How tasteless. I ADORE ITt. Thank you for sharing.
- Jane Goodwin
I am now stuck trying to remember the name of the original film ...
- Euan
It's funny how everything always fits right into that video.
- Will Higgins™
Euan, it's Der Untergang.
- Andrew Trinh
Targeted Marketing on Twitter | Find the right people near you on Twitter! - TwitterHawk - http://www.twitterhawk.com/
"allowing you to really hit your target mid conversation with ease." hmmm .... can't wait ti be "hit" ;-)
- Euan
Just you wait! (first time i've heard of it - saving it for later. spam engine?)
- Hylton Jolliffe
mahjongmi, Loren Heiny, Brent - Loving Life and 10 other people liked this
have fun Leo, you deserve it. Be safe.
- glenn frasier
Only got 2 secs on the boo Leo
- Euan
I'm travelling to Shanghai for the first time and it speaks to my geekhood that I am equally excited about going to China for the first tine as I am about the coincidence of going at the same tine as Leo. I'm flying from Bombay to Shanghai in 8 hours.
- Anant Gairola
from iPhone
Leo detained at the border
- John Hillestad
LEO I so want to meet up and say Hi to you!!!
- Chris Morse
Oh man. Don't tell me they snagged your iPhone already!
- Bill Heald
Have lots of fun and be careful of the roaming fees on the iPhone.
- Zachary TG
why do people keep warning Leo about fees ? He IS the TECH GUY , I think he KNOWS about fees already!
- John Hillestad
Glad to hear you arrived safely. Have fun.
- Carlos
Wow, China acts fast shutting Leo down. (lets hope not).
- Karl Madden
from Nambu
the audio post is only like 3 sec long leo
- Richard Thomson
What are you up to in Beijing. Hope you have a good time :)
- Parvez Halim
BankerVision: The Emergent Enterprise - http://bankervision.typepad.com/bankerv...
"Interestingly, in such an environment, a business process is rather like a piece of media. Its success is determined entirely by how many users it has, just as a blog is successful if it has many readers. Where several choices exist, the process that has most chance of becoming the "one true way" is the one which is used by the most people. A process has an audience, and big audiences give the process owner significant say in how things are done."
- Euan
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The news industry's uncertain future | The rebirth of news | The Economist - http://www.economist.com/opinion...
Rachel Beer liked this
"the only certainty about the future of news is that it will be different from the past. It will no longer be dominated by a few big titles whose front pages determine the story of the day. Public opinion will, rather, be shaped by thousands of different voices, with as many different focuses and points of view. As a result, people will have less in common to chat about around the water-cooler. Those who are not interested in political or economic news will be less likely to come across it; but those who are will be better equipped to hold their rulers to account. Which is, after all, what society needs news for."
- Euan
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Robert Paterson's Weblog - http://www.smartpei.typepad.com/
"What craftsman needs to be managed? What adult needs to be managed? Worse who needs to be managed by a sociopath on the make who knows little about what we do? What leader needs people working for them who act like spoiled kids all worrying about who got what and who is mummy's favorite now? Who needs a colleague who has to be motivated or who has not the skills to do the work? Who needs a colleague who cannot look after themselves or know how to use their tools and to keep their tools in good order. Who needs to own a business where making payroll or feeding the bank loan becomes the sole priority? Who needs a business where you have to out up with infantile clients simply to generate enough cash flow?"
- Euan
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#followfriday: 10 people to learn social media from http://fasterfuture.blogspot.com/2009...
Thanks for including me David
- Euan
Reading Origin of Wealth and loving it http://www.amazon.com/gp...
It's a great book isn't it
- Euan
Origin of Wealth is one of the best and most useful books for my money. Business, economics, evolution and complexity - a heady mix
- Antony Mayfield
@davidcushman true - I was half kidding, but for some reason have never bothered to delve into logs, even though we probably should
try totally changing your url like I just did - that makes you more interested! ;-)
- Euan
Build a Website - Squarespace - http://www.squarespace.com/
Squarespace just gets better and better the more I use it
- Euan
Never tried it -
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Are you a @euan semple fan? His 'the obvious' blog has moved to http://www.euansemple.com/theobvi... Please change your bookmark/feed
Thanks David!
- Euan
Thinking. Social media surfaces issues in organizations. Resistance often due more to not wanting to address those issues than social media.
Amen!
- Euan
Absolutely !
- Cheryl Cooper
Morning all. Blog post version of my Twitter paper has gone up on the Mr Tweet blog: http://blog.mrtweet.net/is-twit... Thanks, @mingyeow @corvida
just pointed someone else at it last night
- Euan
I wonder if anyone uses the new FF for any serious purpose. Before I finish reading something, it's scrolled off, replaced by the next thing. Feeding the whole write-only-ness of the medium. I anticipate even more mindless comments based on not having read the thing they're commenting on. Now they have an excuse.
Juras Vetrau, Marwan Osman, Eril and 60 other people liked this
Q is your friend. Also, use lists. And make your lists not too big.
- Meryn Stol
And you wonder why newbies don't get FF. :-)
- Dave Winer
I'm using FF all day long, and very seriously.
- Meryn Stol
Lists are your friends. And FoaF makes subscribing abuse hurt ... and bad.
- AJ Kohn
FF is serious bizness...iono what YOU talkin about.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
iono -- ???
- Dave Winer
I use it to bash Apple products.
- Alex Scoble
indeed Q is your friend - but that requires you to read the help files
- Bart LePoole
iPod/iPhone UI is more usable, no boring unrequested scrolling/updating features
- cyb
Agree with Meryn; you can just toggle off real time with the play/pause icon in the upper right of the content window. But I agree with Dave: the quickened pace of even a paused feed doesn't lend itself to thoughfulness. Brings to mind the whole Nick Carr "Is Google Making Us Stupid" idea.
- Tom Landini
I've almost replaced all my twitter usage with FriendFeed. (which was mostly serious) The realtime just makes it easier to skim thru more posts. I use the permalinks quickly on things I want to spend time on
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Dave, iono is teenage slang for I don't know. Mr Rahsheen was making a joke about the seriousness of FriendFeed.
- Cristo
Tom, I'm not missing any thoughtfulness on FF! I get very good comments, at least on my feed.
- Meryn Stol
But I wasn't joking. For me, FF represents some part of the future of "Enterprise 2.0". That's serious business.
- Meryn Stol
Dave, in seven minutes you've got about 15 comments here ... not sure how 'readonly' that is... do you're blog posts get that much response this quickly?
- Chris Heath
Meryn, I always take what you say as jokes. ;)
- Cristo
The flow is above normal levels right now - same thing happened when the beta first came out. But AJ is correct, there is not replacement for using Lists to manage your main feed into a stream content and frequency of one's liking.
- Micah Wittman
Pause button in UR is our freind.
- Melanie Reed
it's like google reader... but you don't have to push 'n'
- Andrew Davis
So let's assume FriendFeed has changed design to drive more people to its service and grow – what other reason may be, right? Now everyone from the 'pro' camp comments that you need to learn to use the 'Q' key and pause the stream, and organise your subscriptions in lists. Or, to put it in another way, that the default organisation is not suitable and everyone needs to customise it. How does this match with the desire of drawing new, inexperienced people to the service?
- Alessio Bragadini
Alessio: The UI is only busy for those with a large amount on subscriptions. Most new people don't. *Unless* they import all their Twitter friends... So indeed, it could be a problem. And if they import their Twitter friends, they might not know how to use lists yet.
- Meryn Stol
Actually, that's just an option you have. I pretty much stick with the primary live feed until it gets boring, then I dig deeper. Just like I kept telling people with the old layout...the good stuff will get bumped. If it doesn't, you're subscribed to the wrong folks.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Alessio: The point to me is that everyone can customize the UI to their own liking. I'm more comfortable watching stuff scroll by and then pausing when I spot something that interests me.
- Tom Landini
What might be interesting is for some FFers to make some screencasts of how they use FF.
- Tom Landini
I don't get the point of a new release if everyone is trying to customize it to look like the old one. Now FF is basically a chat.
- Carlo B. (brodo)
I was reading the comments to Dave's post and then poof the page refreshed. Heh. I forgot to do one of two things to get the feed to pause: 1) explicitly hit the pause button or 2) scroll back up to the top of the comments and quickly click on "Comment" before the page has a chance to refresh. My favorite is to pause the page using this latter technique. This will cause the edit area to appear at the bottom of all the comments and freezes the page. You'll still get to see new comments appear.
- Loren Heiny
Loren, just hit Q. It's the "quiet" keyboard shortcut. Also, you can freeze the stream just by moving your mouse over it.
- Jérôme Flipo
I think the shortcuts are great, but not easily apparent to new users.
- kilbuda
Because I push all my friendfeed posts and comments onto twitter, I really think twice before the mindless comments. I always try and ask "Am I adding value?"
- Christian Burns
Yep - Everybody. Find that old joystick. Fast ... slow .... stop
- Charlie Anzman
Jerome, I'll give your suggestions a try, but sometimes when I'm using my Tablet PC I don't think about where the cursor is or if I should have pressed the letter 'Q' to quiet things down. Not bad suggestions, but as more and more people browse like I do with a Tablet or CrunchPad or Apple iPod Touch SuperMediaDevice, I think the FF team needs to do a little bit more work.
- Loren Heiny
Dave: I pause the interface. I don't like the scrolling. Oh, and I'm doing everything else recommended here too.
- Robert Scoble
Dave, the "p" key will pause the interface if you need a shortcut. I just use lists and filters
- Jesse Stay
I think there needs to be a "Pause" button closer to each post, instead of just on the top.
- rob friedman
from twhirl
Gosh, I was just going to say that too. I pause the interface and refresh manually. I hate seeing stuff that I'm reading disappear down the page - and get lost somewhere on the next one.
- Chris Loft
I'm not a big fan of pausing - if I see an interesting conversation I just open the permalink in a new tab. You get a dedicated page that does nothing but update the conversation in real-time, with a comment box at the bottom. I think it's odd that the permalink is hidden as easily-overlooked "X hours ago" info, but other than that I think this interface works pretty well.
- Edward Coffey
You don't have to pause. I tend to start scrolling slowly with the mouse's scrollwheel when reading. When doing this, the screen and contents don't jump around. No need to pause.
- Diego Barros
What about if you click on a link? The contents can still scroll before you can read whatever was linked to and then decide if you want to comment about it. Outside of pausing the feed anything else you can do in this case?
- Loren Heiny
Loren - I click on the posting date/time link ("4 hours ago"). That gives you one thread in one window. Bottom of the thread still refreshes in realtime, but you can read everything at leisure.
- Eric Johnson
Out of the box the next FF can be frustrating. I also hate how, if I use the rollover from someone's name and subscribe to them, I then get redirected to the top of the page, and have to try and scroll down and find my spot again.
- David Eedle
Have to agree with you there. There were so many options for filtering content with the old UI. That's the main thing I loved about it, being able to cut through the noise.. I could see Best of Day from different lists (which I haven't yet found a way to do on the new UI). If there's no way to do this and get to the posts within those list with the highest engagement it takes away a lot of the value of those lists.
- Mike Elliott
Dave, newbies won't have tons of people that they are following so they won't have this problem that you are having before learning about pause. It will feel better to them to see some sort of action on a page.
- Thomas Hawk
It's like the FF Developers spent the last month obstinately refusing to read what people were saying they wanted and needed and what they thought of the new UI. "Nope, not reading what you're saying, got the time to read it, and it's right there, fuck that. Not gonna read it."
- Matthew DeVries
I find the best way to "stop the madness" (or pause the feed) is to move your cursor over any post -- that stops the scrolling until you move your cursor back into the grey. Not really obvious at first but works well. I rarely use the q key or the pause button.
- Brian Sullivan
it's a use case issue, I open new tabs for involved items I want to read and then possibly comment on - but I also use pause a lot - realtime was avail in previous version it just wasn't default
- mike "glemak" dunn
Mike is right. Tabs and pause work like magic.
- LeighaB
This is a pretty cool thread - I wonder if Dave has read the pile of comments that keep trickling in?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Yes
- Dave Winer
I agree there has to be an easy way to pause to be able to read or comment. I also don't like it if I have opened another tab with the contents, I return to FF to comment or like and the item has scrolled of to the sunset.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
why do we have a fear for new patterns?
- Phil Smirnov
I feel like whatever I do here is very short-lived and will ultimately be lost.
- Angela
Lists help a ton in terms of being able to control the noise.
- Louis Gray
Where's the UI equivalent for the keyboard command Q. Why isn't it obvious on the web page? It's just bad UI IMHO.
- J.D. Deutschendorf
J.D.: at the top of the page, in the blue bar, is a 'pause' button. UI equivalent to q
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Using the Q button isn't exactly the same as clicking pause. Clicking pause is permanent and will keep friendfeed paused even if you refresh the page. Q does not make it permanent.
- Alex Scoble
one reason I prefer using FF on the iPhone.
- ~C4Chaos
Wow! I'm just beginning to learn to use FriendFeed. I've had this account for, I'm not sure, 7 months to a year and I'm only now starting to dig into it. These comments where very helpful in showing me that this tool requires work and a learning curve. I like that!! I can't wait to learn more.
- John Michael Cannon
People can always press the pause button
- Euan
Real time is king in my opinion.
- Drew Lucas
from BuddyFeed
Interesting Drew - In that I've always thought the Real King was time.
- Matthew DeVries
@Mike Elliot's old FF's good UI for slicing and dicing: Amen. I'm looking for (and not finding) the ability to read feeds by type, i.e., by delicious, or by blog posts, or by tweets alone. Old UI had it. don't know if new one does. I miss those little kind-of-feed icons of the old UI. Especially for some rooms I created where I have a whole bunch of incoming sources -- they're all IDd w/ Room's icon (or default icon). Do not like.
- Susan A. Kitchens
Susan: new FF definitely has that option. Create a filter, include service:twitter (for example) and you're done. All tweets from you, or the people you follow, or everyone on FF.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
@FFing Enigma: How do you create a filter? I went to Help link, @ bottom of page, did an in-page search for "filter." not found.
- Susan A. Kitchens
@FFing Enigma: Oh. I found it. I should NOT have clicked "help" to find the answer to a "how do I?" question. What I REALLY should have done was click "blog" -- how obvious! Sigh. Userbarriers++
- Susan A. Kitchens
@FFing Enigma: Before: open Friendfeed, find icon on left. Click. Watch page refresh with results. [Total clicks =1] After: Go to search. type in something, click Search. Page refreshes to see results. Click Advanced option. Read all the Advanced How-to. Browse the many text boxes for the one marked "service." Do not find. Read directions closer. Oh! Type that in main search box. Type service:blog and click results. [Total clicks: 2, plus about 2 minutes of close reading]
- Susan A. Kitchens
Yeah that kind of obvious, already had filter function should have shipped with new FF, rather than having to build the filters de novo. There's a hundred services out there, and I need to build every single one of them, and those filters aren't stored in a nice filter library, the guild haphazardly spread among the menus.
- Matthew DeVries
The new interface works well for me but maybe I just don't participate on enough high-speed discussions to see the problem? The biggest thing I love about the new interface is that it establishes an interaction model that can be optimized and improved over a wide range without feeling too "different." The FF team will be able to tune its responsiveness based on how you use it, as well as how everyone uses it. It seems to me that they already have?
- Daniel Dulitz
What are you talking about, Winer? Pissing off conservatives and libertarians is hard work, and do I get paid to do it? NOOOO. I do it for love!
- Steven Perez
try this userscript : http://userscripts.org/scripts...
- Jammy Lee
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