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Exclusive: Inside Pixar - A Photo Tour [May 7th, 2009: Bump inspired by AJ's amazing find: http://friendfeed.com/ajkohn/59c59e85/new-york-city-from-air ]
^that's a cube! SO much awesome - Mona Nomura from Bookmarklet
Wow Sure is... :) - JegerPhil - Phil
Look at all the cereals and peanut butter! =O http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images... - Mona Nomura
I wish i could work some place that fostered creativity... - Chrimmus Tad
i don't understand why more companies aren't creative in office space. google, pixar, etc. all the top companies know that old 50's cubes are out and new "open" "inviting" areas are in. - Chris Harris
But but but, that's what FF is for! ;) - Mona Nomura
.....why are there like 8 jars of peanut butter and like... ONE jar of jelly? BIZARRE - Mona Nomura
Chris: agreed. a happy workplace = happy employees = productivity - Mona Nomura
Happy workplace == home - Chrimmus Tad
Mona N: sad that equation is in limited production. - clarke thomas
Tad: but if home = FF?? ;) @clarke: and people wonder why companies such as these are so prosperous...... - Mona Nomura
Most companies are still stuck in the old industrial factory mentality when it comes to workers. Sadly, even most software companies. - Chrimmus Tad
Aren't a lot of companies are slowly catching on... I heard Facebook and Apple's cafeterias rivals Googles... - Mona Nomura
DSaad69: knol.. Google's wiki? - Mona Nomura
Knol (Google's wiki) See it here: http://knol.google.com/k# - Mona Nomura
Mona: Perhaps there are more varieties of Peanut Butter (Creamy, Chunky, Organic, etc), but everyone only likes Strawberry jelly. - Justin Korn
JK: but only one jar? I would fight people to get to it everyday... Dude, this is in Emeryville. We should SO go check it out - Mona Nomura
It wouldn't be that hard for Facebook. They're tiny compared to Google's massive campus. They don't even need a cafeteria. They could just hook up a deal with the restaurant that's next to them on the bottom floor or any of the other eateries around them. - Louie
Mona: I'd be totally down to go check it out! - Justin Korn
@Louis: but it's the THOUGHT that counts dude. @JK: I wonder if there're any FFers who work at Pixar... hmmmmmm - Mona Nomura
i've seen this. pretty cool stuff. it actually makes one want to work productively - Cee Bee
Mona: I bet there is, but if not, someone out there (Robert Scoble, Louis Gray, etc.) has got to know someone... - Justin Korn
great pics. But that facility looks much more blah than I imagined Pixar to be - Aspi from twhirl
@mona HOLY COW. Learn my name beezie!! - Louie
Got a buddy who works there and went on a tour... amazing place. They even have family oriented events in their quad area. Their movie theater gets special advance screenings of all the major blockbusters. Sadly, I'm still waiting for my invite... ;) - Jericho
I worked next to the Pixar compound for 3 years. They have a lunch room, yet they kicked out one lunch spot and are still trying to get Semifreddi's to move. I like the movies, but it would have been nice (given their lunch room and roving cake cart) that they'd preserve lunch spots for the rest of us. - AJ Kohn
I love that they have a CEREAL ROOM - Bartek Ciszkowski
By the cereal room?! Rick! =O @AJ: VERY important question. Is the food free?! - Mona Nomura
The cereal room is probably the most important thing in the world. - Steve Spalding
When my business gets really huge, it's the Free Toast Room. Great bread, and toppings are on the house. - Chris Baskind
@Mona: I don't know for sure. Never did get inside. I'm pretty sure it was. I know the cake cart was free. - AJ Kohn
@Chris: Count me in. @AJ: free cakes = better than nothing @Steve: Agreed! - Mona Nomura
I work in one of Pixar's old building, before they moved to emeryville. - Alan Le
Oh wow, look what I found. Bump for the memories. - Mona Nomura
Andrew Baron
Gary, if you're watching this... - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Gary, if you're watching this...
Play
haha... - Zee.
lol, did not expect that at all - Chris Conway
hehe! i don't think he's gonna call her now after that... :D :o - Chrimmus Tad
She can call me if she wants!! :-) - Dave Winer
That was hilarious. :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
I was expecting her to say something about having an STD. - Louie
@Dave .... Lol...She is a cutie though eh - Zee.
Someone is a bit pissed... She is kinda cute though :) - Michael Forian
Looking forward to seeing Gary in a Youtube video-response ;) - Migger
OMG! - ※Fu※
hahahahahahahaaa [Edit] Somebody wouldn't give her his telephone number????? - Kamath (नमः)
I think an important element to this that isn't immediately obvious (if you don't click through) is that this is addressed to Gary Vaynerchuk of Wine Library TV, who has started to use a video as an email auto-responder: http://tv.winelibrary.com/garyvs-... - Mark Trapp
This sniffs of a transparent Lonelygirl15 spoof to promote Gary's book, 'natch. - joshua fouts
Yes, Vaynerchuk's video response to email is significant, and Andrew's dislike of same. I think the video is great, it may be Rocketboom 2.0. - Dave Winer
I've fallen victim to Gary's auto email reply, with his video link, before. lol. - Louie
lol - Adri Munier
BWAHAHAHA!!! I love it. - Aaron deMello
liz, message from gary: "please mail it to 586 Morris Avenue Springfield, New Jersey 07081 marked ATTN GARYV URGENT URGENT URGENT thanks will get back to you in two to three weeks" - Deva Hazarika
lolz loved it! - Triston McIntyre
lol - xero
Bwahahahahaha!!!! - Robert Couture from twhirl
funny... - Tony
the lead up was a little long but it ended with a bang! - Morgan
Liz, it's a great ending. too good. - Sarah Austin
OMG LMAO. LOL - ZOD
I was getting ready for "I'm pregnant" -- but this was good. - MattJhsn
O_O O_O <_< >_> @_@ oh...... my..... - Bwana ☠
She is adorable and that is hilarious! The Triscuit actually makes it funnier. - Dave Tremel
She hasn't done any videos since :( - Pat Hawks
Garyvee is a lucky guy. - Dave Winer
Holy shit this is eight months old! LOL way to resurrect a dead thread! :) - Adam Turetzky
Chrimmus Tad
What kind of rice do I need to buy if I want to make the sticky kind of rice you get at Asian (Japanese in particular) restaurants?
Calrose rice is your friend. - Louie
Tad, you could've just asked me... =\ http://images.google.com/images... - Mona Nomura
Doh! I had to edit my comment. Was typing "Ask Mona!" - Candace
Your neighborhood friendly Japanese. I'm reppin my people on FF, YO :) - Mona Nomura
Japanese short-grained white rice - http://tinyurl.com/3aeosz - Victor Ryden
That's one thing I *love* about FF. So many different cultures are represented here. We can get first-hand information for just about anything! - Candace
doumo mona-san! - Chrimmus Tad
douitashimashite tad-san! :D - Mona Nomura
At my son's old karate dojo, the sensei always jokingly said "don't touch my moustache" :D That's what it sounds like too! - Chrimmus Tad
HAHA too bad i shaved today ;) - Mona Nomura
Thats exactly how I learned "your welcome" when i was younger! As for the question, Louie has it, Calrose, 10lb bag is a staple. - Louis P. from twhirl
my fav rice is the Jasmine Dragonfly brand rice, but that's not as common in the states. 2nd choice would be regular Jasmine Butterfly brand. http://www.tiaopeng.com/jaribub... . this is more southeast asian than japanese style though. For sticky rice, i like Nishiki brand - Alan Le
Aw, man, I've been passing over Kokuho Rose for the jasmine rice (some Koreans told me weeks ago that this was why my sushi fell apart, and no, I did NOT try to make sushi for anyone but me). Glad you asked, because I forgot what they told me to buy. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF from NoiseRiver
ok while on the subject.. what is traditional served with this type of sticky rice ? - Peter Dawson
If you go to your local sushi resturant, they should sell you cooked rice. I love making seaweed-less sushi. You get a plastic, disposable shot glass, put your filling down the bottom and pack the top with rice. When you turn it out onto a platter you have bite sized (shot sized) sushi with no seaweed... - Johnny Worthington
I like Nishiki brand for normal sticky rice. - Rodfather
look for short grain rice in the bulk foods section of your local Trader Joes, Whole Foods, PCC type store! - Nancy Babyak from twhirl
The trick is to use a short grain rice (sometimes called "japanese rice"). The mix in cooking it is the key to getting it nice and sticky - Duncan Riley
For the longest time when I was growing up, I had no idea what brand we bought. All I did was look for the big rose on the bag. (Botan) lol. Peter: Every culture might be a little different. But if you're filipino, it's just about everything and anything. - Louie
FYI Asian rice has more starch in it & that's why its sticky. - Mel Buckpitt
Don't forget to wash your rice! - Louie
Louie... isn't it if you want sticky rice you don't wash the starch off? - Johnny Worthington
The rice is washed to purify the taste. FYI Properly cooked Japanese rice isn't supposed to be sticky =| - Mona Nomura
Also a little bit of rice wine vinegar would help... - Johnny Worthington
short grain rice - Scott Moskowitz
"konichiwa" every1 :). My Ninja room room is open http://picasaweb.google.com/slash... having said that, I still would like to know what is served with sticky rice ? @Mona I agree " Japanese rice isn't supposed to be sticky", IMHO, its supposed to be fluffy. The book of 5 rings taught me this :)- - Peter Dawson
short grain - add sugar, sake vinger then put in wooden bowl to cool and mix and fan - Neyma Jahansooz
I believe you're looking for glutinous rice. Previous posters have suggested some brand names. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - imabonehead
Thanks for all the help everyone! - Chrimmus Tad
Mona Nomura
Pop Quiz Clock: Just looking at this makes me feel smarter! - http://www.dcigift.com/product...
Pop Quiz Clock: Just looking at this makes me feel smarter!
The answer is 42. - l0ckergn0me
X, Y, or Z? - Mona Nomura
I'd have liked a little pi symbol at about 10 past 3 - Dan Liebke
π <---a pie for you, Dan : ) - Mona Nomura
Thanks Mona - Dan Liebke
Anytime, new FF Friend -high five!- - Mona Nomura
that's just sick LOL - Vox
sick in the head? ;) - Mona Nomura
I can just see some of my past math professors totally geeking out over this. - Geoff Schultz
Is it bad I'm looking for online retailers??? ;) - Mona Nomura
That's a good gift to give to a geek. hehe - imabonehead
---------------> - Mona Nomura
That's cool, I want it - Justin Yost
very cool! - Mitchell Tsai
haha, my 9th grade math teacher had that exact clock! - Stellina
WHAAAT?!? That's crazy!! LOL - Mona Nomura
He was, come to think of it. Lol - Stellina
OH man.. then does that make crazy for wanting it? HAHA - Mona Nomura
nahhh, now if you wanted a wristwatch version (like me), that would just be crazy. :D - Stellina
That clock makes me want to break it with a sledgehammer. lol - Louie
Blasphemy! - Mona Nomura
or an education tool ;) - Mona Nomura
excellent idea! and it appeals to the math geek in me :) - Jonathan Beckett
WANT - Pete Delucchi
WANT bad to prop up my geek cred. - Roberto Bonini
what the. Did I post this? WHERE did this come from?! WHY?! - Mona Nomura
Are you sleep posting? - Neal Jansons
Dude, this was posted July 22nd. Wow. I don't even remember this LOL - Mona Nomura
Ha! Somebody dusted this post off by liking or commenting on it. We can see that Pete Delucchi was the first one to comment since July, but he may not have been the one to bring it back. Still WANT! - Anthony K. Valley ©
It was me, I liked it earlier today (or yesterday?), but I don't remember how I came across it... Ooops. - Cheryl Jones
Nice math clock! - Mike Reynolds
I don't want to be an ass about it, but PI - .14 does not really equal 3 :) - Adrian
Good catch, so you are not an @ss. We could use 9 = 3*(INT(100*pi)/100-.14) - Mike Reynolds
provided we have access to a truncation function :) - Adrian
l0ckergn0me
Apparently, there's a 6:00am, too? Hmph. Learn something new every day.
My clock must be broken, it only shows the numbers for half the day! - Johnny Worthington
People are trying to trick you, sir! See, there are those that believe the 1a-7a slots on the clock are somehow associated with morning. It's a fallacy: 1a-7a is actually very late night, not very early morning. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Oh yeah there is. That's the time I leave for work every morning. I had hit the sack early after waiting for you to open that keyboard last night and clicked your page just before leaving this morning and there you were, silly hat and all. - Mattb4rd
6:00am is when i get off work. @_@ - Louie
rumors and lies. - Russell Holliman
You are up way too early. heh I woke up an hour afterwards. :D - Daynah
Chrimmus Tad
I (caught in the tracks) SF on Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
I (caught in the tracks) SF on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Ha! wtf? - Chrimmus Tad from Bookmarklet
LMAO! I <3 craptastic SF streets too. - Louie
Mona Nomura
Anti-social? If you say so, then, ok...? Especially since I would feel bad stating: I prefer my online friends.
MONA! I was just thinking about this today. Lately, I would much rather be sitting at the computer in the company of my FF friends than engaging with my "real" friends. :-/ - Anna Haro
I agree, Anna. I find FF to be much more positive than my real life. - Michelle Martinez
I'm with you, but it's sort of a source of concern -- do you think it's healthy? Are we all screwing up our lives this way. - Nathan Rein
So what's the magic spell to homogenize the experience? - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
I agree - I've had more fun with people here than I have lately IRL. I think I would talk to my real friends more if they used FF too. Then my friends could get with your friends, we could do this every weekend! - Morgan
My wife keeps yelling at me cuz I spend to much time on here. I wonder if that's bad? - Jonathan.Rivera
Is that alright wich' you? yeah Keep bangin'...I love it when you call me Big Poppa... +++Morgan hahahaha! - Anna Haro
yay anna! biggie FTW! - Morgan
You guys, Im in the bathroom, Tweeting and FFing. wow. I either need new friends or Im truly addicted, or perhaps the combination of both! - Mona Nomura from fftogo
@mona - overshare for serious :) - Morgan
in a way, FF/tweet makes you feel connected socially without being social, i wonder if that is good? - Pokai
Mona, I hope you wash your hands and your computer or hand-held device. :P - imabonehead
@Mona--Can you spare a square? ;-) - Anna Haro
Oh, I don't really need to pee. I'm sitting in the stall, checking my email and FF.... for the 4th time, already. Anna: when're you giving it back?!?!?????? ;) - Mona Nomura from fftogo
FF has become my most enjoyable web experience, it's highly addictive, and still i don't see it replacing Face-to-face interaction with my RL friends. I see no competition between the 2, things come together just fine. - Majento
so this is what powdering your nose is. - Geoff Schultz
Mona: the bathroom again? ewwww... and yes, you are antisocial, in the traditional sense. You are metasocial though! - Louie
Metasocial, I like that, did you make it up? If so TM it IMO. - Geoff Schultz
Awwww Mona loves us :) - Dennis Jackson
Geoff: I'll get on that. LOL - Louie
This sounds kind of weird but I find it much easier to "maintain friendships" online than off, simply because of the lack of available time to meet with people in meatspace. FF (and other networks) gives me the ability to socialize when it's convenient for me. And the fact that I can participate in a conversation not in real time is also convenient. I am only anti-meatspace-social for lack of free time. - Fa La La La Lindsay
You know it doesn't hurt at all that there is this constant stream of topics to talk about literally endlessly. In the "Real World", if such distinctions are really required anymore since this is real enough for me, you burn through your topics and your done in no time and then what. - Geoff Schultz
"Compooping" is the sniglet I believe, and we can tweet about it. PLURK. Oops, gotta go. - Eric Rice
do NOT mention that poor excuse of an SNS to me, Eric. K? Thxkbai - Mona Nomura from fftogo
i got a gal i know a few blocks away to join twitter and now we not only communicate more frequently but also get together more often! before we only met at parties now we're like bff. my friends who don't get social media i tend to hardly see or speak to... - Anji Bee
Think a research prject at a major university on your original question .... and the fact that you're tweeting in the bathroom .... are both in order. - Charlie Anzman
I'm going to pretend I have a choice...yeah! I prefer my online friends..anyday! Huzzah! - Kamath (नमः)
I feel ya Anna & Monda. Then I was sad 4 a day when some A listers unsubbed. reality check - spent more time w/real friends...LOL - R. Ferguson
Oh I thought Plurk was the sound a doodie made when you pass, well wait that would be like a BB ricocheting. You know what, forget I said anything. /me looks for minidisc recorder - Eric Rice
See! I missed this entire thread because I was out last Saturday night :( - Michelle Marie Miller
Jason Goldberg
Do you still use a land line phone?. http://www.socialmedian.com/story...
phone? what is this word? - Rishabh Mishra (p248)
i got an voip phone for free with Comcast but rarely use it - does that count? - Frank Gruber
VOIP thru comcast for fax/voice line for my LLC. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I was w/out a landline from 99-05, and then got one when I went to Argentina (I worked for the phone company at the time & got employee rates on calls home). I kept it 6 months and switched it to voip. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
@Frank I too had to get a voip phone recently from time warner as my at&t wireless has a mysterious dark spot in my nyc apartment. - Jason Goldberg
My skype time is probably 10x my landline time, perhaps more. - Jason Goldberg
I haven't used one of those things in a long time. Everyone calls or texts me on my mobile. One Phone Number is plenty. - Sean Hanna from twhirl
yes, i have one but never use it. i think only like 3 or 4 people have the number. - B. Hatin
No land phone for the Donaghe's. That would be redundant. - Chrimmus Tad
Yeah, that's the bill collectors' phone line... and that phone is unplugged. *hides from the man* - Louie
skype + cell phones - Tim Hoeck
We have the base package on Vonage, but I think that will be going away soon. The Grand Central/Gizmo combo will likely replace that, and of course we have our Cell phones. - cmiper
Yeah. The cell doesn't always work so well in / around the house. - ::Kristen::
I'm jealous! I've always wanted to see the big trees. - ::Kristen::
Karen Padham Taylor
very purdy Karen! - Ross Miller
beautiful - Anne Bouey
very beautiful links and photos Karen, happy to have met you,thanks to friendfeed! - sara
lovely lights - Mitchell Tsai
Sweet colors - Tim FitzGerald
神奇的漂亮! - junrxu
Karen - these are great! - Mike
where? - 阿石
Wow, great shots. - Louie
@ suso - These were taken in Glenbrook, NV (Lake Tahoe) - Karen Padham Taylor
I feel like you could rival Van Gogh's 'Haystacks' series with all the wonderful sunsets you get at this site through the seasons. - Kevin Fox
Louie
Threadless T-Shirts - Foam Monster In Emotional Reunion With Severed Limb by Aled Lewis - http://www.threadless.com/product...
Threadless T-Shirts - Foam Monster In Emotional Reunion With Severed Limb by Aled Lewis
So that's where those foam fingers come from! LOL - Louie from Bookmarklet
Mona Nomura
Meanwhile, in other Non-Gmail Related News.. I Called SF MOMA - http://pixelbits.wordpress.com/2008...
I presume you will keep us up to date - Brian Sullivan
I talked to two different people since I don't trust people's words. Especially PR folks. I would've talked to all of them, but two didn't pick up their phones. - Mona Nomura
I wonder what's taking them so long to respond - Bjorn Stromberg
They have weekends off? Who knows. The point is, they're working on it :) - Mona Nomura
Mona, I agree w/ the weekends off bit. We're all plugged in so much, we don't realize that there are in fact people who don't touch a bit of tech 2 days out of the week. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I'm just happy they are now aware of the issue and plan to address it. I hope there's a direct statement from the Director of Client Services..... - Mona Nomura
Glad they are aware! I look forward to the response. Photographers must stand united! - Michael
go Mona go ,, remind me never to get on Mona's bad side ,, - johnpiercy
Oh, I just got tired of waiting so I did something... Has nothing to do with my good / bad side! :) - Mona Nomura
I doubt the person in question will make a statement and if he does it was most likely pre-written for him. I'll bet it's going to be along the lines of "We're really sorry this happened and it won't happen again. We're going to make up for this by <insert something here>" - Candace
I fear Candace may be optimistic. My bet is on a "we're reviewing our policies" statement. - Ontario Emperor
@Candice: As much as I would love the statement to be that... I think it will be more along the lines of 'We are right, TH was wrong, All Photography is banned'... I HOPE I am wrong - Johnny Worthington
@John - They could revoke the photography policy or alter it to "point and shoot" rather than "hand held", but if there is no way they will say "we are right..." -- unless there is another side to the story we don't know about. But I'm really doubting that is the case. - Justin Korn
It would depend on three things. #1. How bad the press is surrounding what happened. #2. How the public is reacting and, #3. How widespread it is. Unfortunately, if it's just the internet and internet communities being upset over it then they may not have much to say at all. - Candace
Wow thanks for the update Mona. I was wondering this myself. - Mrsth
I just decided to call and ask since FriendFeed was filled with Gmail talk.. Had to keep myself occupied somehow ;) ...but it's 5:30pm and still nothing. I called again, but no one's picking up lol - Mona Nomura
My money is on an outright apology. "With your arms around your enemy, he can not draw his sword."-Dali Llma - Mrsth
The Dali Llma is a VERY wise man :) - Mona Nomura
I could picture MoMA saying "We are right." Think about it. Perhaps the social media community is very small, but the MoMA community is much smaller. I could picture Blint, his boss, and a few others in a room discussing the issue, and concluding that the negative reaction is just a case of mob mentality, and that Blint was right in defending MoMA employees from whatever Blint was... more... - Ontario Emperor
Oh, and in case anyone's wondering. The two individuals I spoke with were extremely nice, polite, helpful, willing to answer questions, and not snooty at all.. but then again, they DO work in PR - Mona Nomura
Justin, I had a pretty long discussion yesterday here with some people (very anti-TH) and they made me realise that while Thomas is in the right, that sexual harassment thing is pretty powerful. Blint may press his claims that TH was shooting down the shirt of a female employee. If that female employee, however mistaken, thought she was being violated then some organisations have a policy of ejection without consulation or right of reply. they may push that rather than addressing the photography issue. - Johnny Worthington
Organizations whether Non-profit or corporations take longer to reply than a loose cannon like Thomas Hawk. They need to keep a tight communication message for a "crisis". I look forward to hearing the other side of this story. Knowing how Thomas Hawk has taken action counter to their policies in the past I have a feeling there is more to the story than what has been revealed to date. - Jim Goldstein
So my sister works at a museum, and I've done hourly work there- and I have to admit, when you're working with the public, there are pervs out there. I think this was a smart precautionary move. Is he guilty? I don't know. But if someone was feeling uncomfortable, is it a huge loss that Thomas Hawk only got a few pictures? Is that the fact that he's Thomas Hawk, a reason to treat him differently from joe-blow-pervy-tourist? - anna sauce
Anna, the problem is that the treatment TH recieved happens to alot of photographers, myself included. This type of treatment, the automatic assumption that you are a perv cause you are a photographer, is soul crushing. When does 'playing it safe' trump innocent until proven guilty. - Johnny Worthington
Who gives a rat's ass if he's Thomas Hawk. He has a photo taken of the incident. I saw no boobies. Not even a hint of boobs. Now he's a "loose cannon"? LOL. This whole thing just gets more amusing by the hour. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Rasheen, I agree. I saw no boobies as well, and trust me I would have seen them. But that sexual harassement stuff is powerful... I reckon they would take TH sueing them over a female employee sueing them any day (doesn't make it right though). - Johnny Worthington
@Rahsheen Porter I wouldn't say TH is a saint by any means. He's gone to MoMA in the past asking for trouble. On Renegade Photography http://thomashawk.com/2007... "Rather than simply miss Jeff Wall's work due to my dogmatic protest against the SF Moma's anti-photography policy, I decided that I would go, but that I'd shoot anyways... I'm sure this rubs some... more... - Jim Goldstein
Nice follow up, Mona. - Michael W. May from twhirl
Yeah man...WOW. He's a freakin animal. I see why we need to keep his kind in check. How dare he take that camera in places and take photos. Who the hell does he think he is? Sorry for sarcasm, but I just don't see the danger. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Uhhhh may I interrupt for a second to say, the individuals I spoke with in the SF MOMA's PR Department were ALL kind, helpful, and willing to answer my inquiries in the utmost respectful way. I am extremely eager to hear their side of the story and what / how they plan to rectify this situation. This story interests me, NOT because of the Thomas Hawk 'brand name', per se, but because it could have happened to anyone. Thank you. - Mona Nomura
Jim, while TH's past is intresting, how does it relate to this situation. If it was me, an amature photographer with no histroy, does it make SFMOMA actions any more or less vaild? - Johnny Worthington
As a woman who sits through Thomas Hawks hours of processing & photo viewing on literally, a daily basis, & while he is definitely a self admitted admirer of the female form, shooting down shirts is just not the shot he aims for. - Mrsth
Mona, agreed, SFMOMA rocks. I hope to visit (and hopefully shoot it) next year. - Johnny Worthington
Mrsth, and certainly not with a 14mm lens :) - Johnny Worthington
We are all missing the point...this is not about Thomas Hawk vs Simon Blint or even SFMOMA. This about the way Simon Blint/SFMOMA reacted to the situation. - Justin Korn
@John Worthington I think his past should play a factor. If he has a track record of looking for conflict (which he does) then you should temper your outrage until the other side of the story can be shared. Thomas has the ability to blast away at will, while Simon Blint is restrained by the communication policy of his employer. I don't condone a museum for needlessly throwing out or harassing a photographer, but their side of the story has yet to be told. MoMA isn't on "Internet Time" people forget that. - Jim Goldstein
So, Jim. You consider a photographer breaking rules about where photos are allowed to be taken a man looking for "conflict"? Did he say "I hope they say something cuz I haven't cracked a skull in a while" or did he say "I believe art should be more open"? - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Jim, my outrage is fuelled by being accused of being a pedofille while taking photos of my own 2 year old daughter. My outrage is fuelled by the bruises on my chest from an angry father at my nephews soccer game... My outrage is fuelled by almost being handcuffed for shooting in a public space (Queen Street Mall in Brisbane). I'll keep my outrage at the current level thank you... - Johnny Worthington
And while Blint is restrained by the communication policy, he doesn't seem to be by his own employer's photography one. - Johnny Worthington
Mona - New hat. Ace reporter! - Charlie Anzman
HA! Reporter? I am FAR from one, nor do I care to be. I forget people on here don't know me. If I believe strongly enough in something, I 'do' and aim to resolve. Whether it be for me, a friend, or a complete stranger :) - Mona Nomura
John: I love how you state the 14mm lense as if it's an obvious tip that he wasn't a perv. I bet a lot of the people that comment in these threads don't even know what a 14mm wide angle lense looks like. http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews... Forget TH and the names. If that female employee looked up and saw that pointed towards her from above, it's understandable for her to feel uncomfortable & complain. - Louie
Dig the way you emphasized 'polite'. So many people call companies, etc., and start screaming and don't realize they're immediately alienating the person on the other end. I've been on both sides. The screamers got ZIP. - Charlie Anzman
Louie: The point is not arguing their cases... It's not in mine or anyone else's position, for that matter, to put words in their mouths, IMHO. @Charlie: Well I *AM* Japanese, it is in our nature to be bery bery porite <--said EngRish.. HA.. NOT. Anyway, thank you for noticing :) - Mona Nomura
Mona: The point is what? I've seen people ejected from businesses because of harassment. You get a short explanation and the door/security. This situation seems like the same, even if TH wasn't doing what he was accused of. Is it wrong to try and think of different sides of the situation? From TH's own blog post, it is very apparent why he was asked to leave. Employers have and obligation to provide a safe work environment and many have a ZERO tollerance policy for harassment of their employees. - Louie
Louie: It's a little too early to throw heavy weighted words as 'harassment' around until we hear the other side of the story. Like I stated on my blog, my issue with this situation is: 1. SF MOMA allows photography. 2. Despite its policies, SF MOMA’s Director of Visitor Relations, Simon Blint, personally threw out Thomas Hawk (a patron). 3. Thomas Hawk wants an explanation as to why this occurred, as do I. - Mona Nomura
To quote TH: "Blint told me that "he did not care" and that he needed to "protect" his employees -- employees that might appear in my photographs... He accused me of using a "telephoto" lens to spy on his staff from the public staircase on the second floor." - Louie
Even if the woman was mistaken about TH's intentions, the employer is obligated to take her complaint very seriously. Sure, he could have taken his time to sit and conversate with TH about it all. It would be the most polite thing to do. But many people want to just nip the situation in the bud as soon as possible, to alleviate the situation. This is especially true after California's mandated sexual harassment training for all Management positions. His job/finances/reputation are at stake. - Louie
Louie: You are entitled to your opinion, as I am mine. As I stated before, it is not in my position to assume anything until I hear both sides of the story. - Mona Nomura
Hmm...maybe we need to hear a third side of the story. She can comment anonymously if she wishes, but if Hawk is being accused of something, perhaps she can clarify what she (reportedly) accused him of doing. - Ontario Emperor from fftogo
So here's another question- b/c TH thinks art should be free, he can take photos of it and distribute at will- the artist has no say. What about subjects? Do they have any say? - anna sauce
Cheers for the update, Mona. How very journalistic, following up on a blog shit storm, rather than just repeating the original story in the first place. Nice work. - Chris Nixon
@Mona, any update on a response from the SF MOMA on this incident? Now that we are all done jerking our knees, (myself included) in response to Thomas's post, it would sure be nice to hear the other side of the story. Unfortunately I fear that it will be heavily filtered by lawyers and not say much, especially in the area of accepting or pointing blame. - Jeff P. Henderson
Fa La La La Lindsay
Wake Up To Meat: The Wake N' Bacon - Geekologie - http://www.geekologie.com/2008...
Wake Up To Meat: The Wake N' Bacon - Geekologie
OMG! This is SO for Mona!!! - Fa La La La Lindsay from Bookmarklet
It's a bacon MACHINE. omg omg omg - Chrimmus Tad
Heh, posted this a while ago. Didn't get a response from Mona though! One question...erm...is it wise to leave un-refridgerated meat near your pillow?! - Mo Kargas
omgbaconlol - Josh Haley
Why does this remind me of The Office and Michael when he burned his foot on the George Forman grill? LOL - Louie
Ok, Mona is around so I'm bumping this so she'll see it this time. CALLING MONA!!! - Fa La La La Lindsay
HA! Hi Lindsay, I already have this on order ;) - Mona Nomura
hehe. I had bacon at breakfast this morning and thought of you! :) - Fa La La La Lindsay
That's better looking than the bacon alarm clock I posted last night - Outsanity
I was fixing my hair, and thought of your perfect hair!! - Mona Nomura
hehe. Bet it didn't take you as long to get ready as it did me. And you don't have to worry about your hair. You've got the look anyway. - Fa La La La Lindsay
Mona Nomura
127.0.0.1 :) And what in the Sam's Hill is Sea Foam?!
it's a shade of green, I think - Bren -- Loves Chrimmuh
Correct you are sir - Geoff Schultz
Hm. I've always said 'Sam Hell' rather than 'Sam's Hill'. - Akiva Moskovitz
Why would someone put that, as an @ reply to my malt ball tweet? - Mona Nomura
It's the hill Sam own, Akiva - Mona Nomura
Seafoam is a tasty chocolate confection. Never thought of it as alternative to malt balls until now, but sure! http://www.pulakoschocolates.com/HTML... - invariant - farewell FF
Oh, and apparently nobody knows what Sam Hill really means: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki.... - invariant - farewell FF
If you were to ask me what Sea Foam was, the first thing I think of is the product that you use to clean out carburetors & crankcases of carbon buildup. I never knew there was anything else other than that & the color. =P - Louie
Michelle Feldman
Social Cooking Grill by Chris fox » Yanko Design - http://www.yankodesign.com/index...
Social Cooking Grill by Chris fox » Yanko Design
Now we have... Social Cooking. The new del.icio.us? - l0ckergn0me
Uhh.. isn't this normal for asian people to have a hot plate dinner once in a while?? This is a lot more fancy looking than my friends'/relatives' though. mmm... I'm craving Korean bbq now. =P - Louie
Mona Nomura
As of1:43 A.M., 8/11/08. I, am now, a graduate...? Ode to new beginnings ;)
Congrats! - Akshay Dodeja
Thank you! But it's graduation of a certain stage of my life :) I'm quitting smoking! - Mona Nomura
Congrats :D - Rodfather
congratulations, Mona! :) - Iain Baker
Thats even better news! Fresh Air FTW! How did you do it? - Akshay Dodeja
I'm spamming FF & Twitter, so I can't go back on my word LOL - Mona Nomura
Thank you! I'm armed with TONS of bubble gum. Patricia: BEST ADVICE EVER - Mona Nomura
Good luck Mona, we are here for you... - Johnny Worthington
Have you quit? Or are you quitting? - Mohamed J
JUST smoked my last cigarette. - Mona Nomura
If you fail to quit, and you may, try reading this http://allencarr.com/central/ - Mohamed J
throw away all your lighters extra packs in the trash. - Akshay Dodeja
done! - Mona Nomura
i never smoked a normal cigarette in my life. Only joints and shisha ! Congrats Mona on that decision, although my personal perspective is somewhat different in that regard! - Hayk H.
good luck, I hope you warned your friends how grumpy you will be in three days. - Bjorn Stromberg
Me? Grumpy? No way. I think, therefore, I am. I'm happy... therefore, I will be...? Or Jedi Mind tricks. Anyone know Jedi Mind tricks?? - Mona Nomura
I already set up a Google calendar... LOVE the internet! - Mona Nomura
i like to joke telling to those who wanna quit smoking, "your body is going to disappear one way or another. now, why deprive your body and mind of pleasures of life for something as transient as health? it would be pity to die healthy!" - Hayk H.
Great work Mona, epic congrats :D - Mo Kargas
These aren't the smokes you're looking for *waves hand* - Bjorn Stromberg
Thank you, guys. For all the support!! I've been smoking for FAR too long. And LOL @ Hayk! - Mona Nomura
Best of luck quitting smoking! Gotta do the California thing & get high on breathing air (e.g. "breathwork"). :-) - Mitchell Tsai
congrats Mona - Olivier
Now that I PSA'd it, I can't go back on my word! I'm excited :D. Thanks, Mitch! - Mona Nomura
I quit and started running to physically torture myself, so I could psychologically tell myself that if I started smoking again, it would be harder. - Pokai
As in, jogging? Oh wow. Exercise... that's something else I need to work on. Babysteps.... - Mona Nomura
yes, jogging. if not jogging, just insert something to preoccupy your mind (maybe not chocolate malt balls) - Pokai
And Mona :) start reading "Will to Power" of Nietzsche in case you didnt!! will give you all mental food for keeping on "torturing" yourself! - Hayk H.
Pokai & Hayk: Noted. I'm going to need all the support I can get. So tahnk you, for the advice! - Mona Nomura
Quitter :D j/k Gratz and good luck! - ·[▪_▪]·
HA! Thank you ;) - Mona Nomura
Congrats! Soon you'll be sitting in a small cubicle, spending all day in FF ;) - Jemm
LOL @ Joni Like we do that...... - Dennis Bjørn Petersen from twhirl
Time to get electronic cigarettes to ease in the quitting. - Andrew Trinh
Congratulations! - Ernie Oporto
Cold Turkey? The first 72hrs are the worst! All easy after that. Stick with it. I did it last Oct and never looked back! Good luck to you! - Jay Martin
Mona, best of luck to you. May ask what brand you've been smoking? It may seem irrelevant, but many national brands have additional additives that make withdrawal even worse. Gum will help, but also find something to do for 5 minutes each time you get a craving (as that's about how long they last): make tea, take a walk, round of stretching. Something to keep you busy that 5 minutes. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Yay! More power to ya! - Sarah
Welcome to the club LOSERFACE!! The first 48 hours was the hardest for me. That was only because I went to a party in that time, and traditionally drinking = smoking. I was fine after that though. I still have yet to take a single drag. I hope you stick with it and don't end up like my other friends, who have quit at least 4 times within the time that I've quit. LOL - Louie
Duncan Riley
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing - http://www.inquisitr.com/2281...
Thanks Duncan. - Thomas Hawk
Thomas, you're in the right on this one, so no probs at all. Hopefully what has happened sparks some deeper discussion about how copyright and privacy have gone to far as well. How have we moved to this state of fear today? - Duncan Riley
Steven Hodson rightly points out that Thomas Hawk is not the only one who has run afoul of authorities. One common thread in all of these incidents is an accusation that the photographic device is being used for some scary purpose - as a laser pointer, to take upskirt photos etc. This is then followed by silence from the accuser. - Ontario Emperor from fftogo
Saying Thomas is wrong simply for using the word asshole is dangerously myopic in the context of the battle for our personal liberty. - Morgan
There's 2 issues here: being in the right in the museum and being in the right in how to deal with being in the right in the museum. "Thomas" was probably right in the museum, but 100% wrong in the reaction and in calling out someone by name to then be harassed. Also, if you're going to call someone an asshole by name in public, man up and do it with your real name. - Jason Carreira
@jason - in reading the original post nowhere does "Thomas" remotely suggest any type of boycott, protest, or harassment against Blint/ MOMA. He doesn't ask anyone to support his cause, he simply tells his side of the story. In a world where "ass" "bitch" and other explicatives are routinely carried across drive-time airwaves, choosing "asshole" as a descriptor comes down more to a question of taste than a question of right vs. wrong. And it's hardly on the same level as the erosion of personal freedoms - Morgan
@Morgan, I have a longer history reading "Thomas"'s rants and diatribes. This is not an isolated incident, but rather a pattern, and one that has included calls for public mob action in the past, so "Thomas" has a feeling for how these things will play out. If I wanted to watch soap operas, I would. - Jason Carreira
@Jason - Thomas legally (by nature of his job) can not blog or participate online with his real name, however, if he could, I'm sure he would. - Justin Korn
Jason, please oh please tell us how you would have dealt with the situation. I am intrested in your stragery for dealing with this individual and how you would achieve effective change at SFMOMA, or indeed other places where photography is a crime, without using publicity. I want to know how you would defend everyone's constitutional rights by only making a whisper and how effective that would be. Throwing stones is fine but balls out yourself son. - Johnny Worthington
@John you're right, it's all a coincidence and "Thomas" is just a magical lightning rod for injustice. - Jason Carreira
No, it's that Thomas is just one of the tallest lighting rods that everyone can see from the ground... still haven't given me your solution yet... - Johnny Worthington
Thomas' words might have carried more credibility had he not used the expletive, but that does not in any way diminish the treatment he recieved. The bottom line is that the museum had a stated public policy on photography and Mr. Blint was in the wrong. - Jack Wilson
Jack, indeed. And since he acted as an individual, outside of the SFMOMA policy, he is right for a calling out. - Johnny Worthington
I think that what Thomas did was great. However, I think he should have been a little more careful about what he posted and his seemingly knee-jerk response. The Museum deserves everything they get though for the simple fact that they allow photography specifically where Thomas was taking photos and that he went out of his way to verify this and even became a member for this single fact. I would like to hear the Museum's side of the story and the PR people should respond as soon as possible. - Brandon Titus
Kudos, Duncan. Dugg it. - Dave Martin
Well done Duncan - Charlie Anzman
SF MOMA is not a public facility. It is a private facility. And at the end of all this, what does anyone really think is going to happen? Are they going to prostrate themselves at everyone's feet begging for forgiveness? Or are they going to back to banning all photography in the facility simply because it's easier than dealing with this PR nightmare? Sometimes, all tht's necessary for the triumph of evil is for zealots to push too far. - Cyndy
@Cyndy. Just saying, museums are considered public places without regard to any proper legal standing. This should end with the institution affirming their posted permissions and taking whatever internal action they feel appropriate to prevent their policy being violated by their own hired help. In the least the employee might be placed on double-secret probation and become interested in seeking his fortune in a venture more attuned to his special gifts. May I suggest something in the penal system. - Dave Martin
We have a similar situation in DC with Union Station, a public building operated by a private company. IMHO, Employee (E) was out of line. Written communication between Thomas (T) and Museum (M) confirm photos OK. T takes photos. For any number of reasons, E throws him out, despite institution (M) having granted permission. Private property or no, a policy is a policy. That T is member might mean M in breach of contract, not to mention unlawful arrest (even for guards) and if they touched him, assault. - Andrew Feinberg
Cyndy, if it was a private company I'd have still made the same call, but the fact that there was at least some public funding to me should make it more accountable. As much as there is a broader debate on photography/ copyright privacy, take that aside and his treatment alone was appalling. No body likes goons throwing their weight around in a civil society, full stop. - Duncan Riley
Sean, that's just it. As Jason points out, this isn't the first time. And yet I've known professional photographers as well as amateur photographers who've never had the same situations happen. There is a polite and professional way to handle things that wasn't this. And if it results in no photography allowed at all there, who wins? - Cyndy
Cyndy, so what you are saying is that I shouldn't vigourusly stand up for my rights because there is a chance that others could fight back and possible take away more of my rights? - Johnny Worthington
So the Internet has etched his name in stone for a bad day? John, what I'm saying is that there is a way to go about it without being a jerk in return. After the ludicrous amount of attention this has gotten, does anyone really think that SF MOMA will respond in a nice way? A pound of flesh has been demanded, and that's going to put them on the defensive. - Cyndy
So far it comes down to one guy going off the rez. What owner of any business would not want to hear about an employee treating a customer badly. Getting this story out there amounts to a public service. Boil it down. What happened here was an employee violated a posted policy and did so acting in a rude and inappropriate manner. What's important is what happens next. Stay tuned. - Dave Martin
@John, I think the point is there's ways to do things without being inappropriate. I've been harassed by security guards at the back of Federal buildings and across the street from secure military contractor sites when taking photos. In neither case was I detained or escorted from the premises. There's ways of talking to people and then there's ways of confronting people. If you don't get the response you feel you should, take it up with management later. - Jason Carreira
Causing a confrontation and then publicly calling out a person and institution is more likely to get a negative, defensive reaction, rather than a thoughtful response that might improve the situation. Being rude and belligerent only reflects poorly on photographers. - Jason Carreira
Jason, I too have been confronted many times with security gaurds and parents. I often took the action you suggested where I left and took it up with higher authorities later... but I have since stopped that. Why? Because by not standing up for my rights, I am reenforcing to those people that their actions are just and that what I am doing is wrong. And it also allows this to happen to others. I refuse to be made to feel like a pedofile or a threat when I am exercising my right to produce and express my art - Johnny Worthington
I didn't say to say nothing, but to be polite and informative of how public photography is ok, but when faced with someone who is not going to accept that, why continue to argue? They're not going to change their mind, and you're only going to hurt your case. - Jason Carreira
Here's a hypothetical scenario for you.... let's say a celebrity goes to SFMOMA and everyone breaks out Canon 5D's and (with no flash) starts taking pictures of the celebrity. The celebrity is going to be unable to enjoy the works of art. While the photographers are technically not breaking any rules, if they are somehow interfering with other patrons enjoyment, what should the management do? I'm sure someone complained to management about "Thomas" so what were they to do? - Jason Carreira
@Brian, I don't hate "Thomas", but I'm tired of the bullshit. It's not helpful to the cause. I'm tired of the martyrdom. I'm tired of the blind mob mentality rallying to the attack and not questioning. I also think it's incredibly cowardly to defame a person's reputation publicly from behind a psuedonym. I doubt "Thomas" would have used that language to a person's face, so doing it from behind a keyboard stinks. - Jason Carreira
But your scenario glosses over the fact that Canon 5D's are allowed in the SFMOMA according to thier guidelines, no charges of annoyance was conveyed to TH by Blint. If your 'celebrity' was to make a complaint, and that was conveyed as the reason for asking you to leave then yes but making a blanket ban cause someone would get offened is over kill. Plus the policy applies to the Attrium... I beleive this is a meeting space rather than the gallery 'proper' - Johnny Worthington
You assume no-one complained. I'd bet someone did. - Jason Carreira
If they did complain then that should have been conveyed to TH as the reason for his ejection. He was ejected because 'this type of photography is not allowed (DSLR)' and 'Blint suggested TH was taking photos down people's tops'. - Johnny Worthington
So rights are only for some people. Interesting world you live in. - Jason Carreira
Jason: you then work with your customers to solve the problem. If you have someone who wants privacy then you find a way to serve them. For instance, you could make one hour a day camera free. Celebrities often get private viewings, for instance. But if you have a policy that says that cameras are OK you can't change that because of complaints on the spot. Many museums allow photos, including the Louvre in Paris. - Robert Scoble
@John, I'm sure it's that 2nd reason that was the reason for the complaint. Right or wrong I bet another SFMOMA visitor felt uncomfortable. - Jason Carreira
Nice bait, not gonna take it though... The celebs is a red herring. Any one who has a complaint about another persons behaviour should be able to report it and the person should be given an oppertunity to hear the accusations, with a right of reply, before being ejected. - Johnny Worthington
@Robert, I'm sure they're reviewing their policies. Hopefully it won't end with a no photography rule, but if it does, I'd put some of the blame on Hawk's shoulders. - Jason Carreira
Jason, it was a staff member (says Blint) and she was wearing a jumper + scarf... Facts my friend. - Johnny Worthington
Cyndy & John +983755509325453 The rest of you seem to be too caught up in an emotional knee-jerk reaction to Thomas' digital call to arms, to think clearly. We don't have all of the information and this lynch mob was created off of one man's rant. The inflamatory language of his original post and threat that he was going to blog about it, doesn't do much to prove himself to be the innocent victim that he claims to be. - Louie
@John, if you had been contacted by an upset customer and you were in Blint's position, and Hawk was standing up there continuing to take pictures of you while you're trying to talk to him, do you think that would make you more or less interested in hearing what he had to say? A confrontation was created, but not all on one side. - Jason Carreira
'Blog about it' is today's I'm writing a 'letter to the editor'. - Johnny Worthington
But TH was technically still a customer and deserves the same rights of a fair hearing as the accuser. - Johnny Worthington
Don't you people realize that this is a classic example of someone spinning a story by omitting facts so that you feel sorry for them? Some of you may have been out of the dating game too long to remember this, but it happens all the time. Oh, it was horrible, he treated me bad, we got in arguments, blah blah blah... woe is me. Then you find out, hmm... little miss innocent isn't the fairy she portrayed herself to be, in reality. - Louie
Other companies may have a different policy, but where I work, if an employee feels harassed/violated in any way by a customer, that customer is ejected from the premises IMMEDIATELY. It could be quite possible that the female employee, referenced in the director's reasoning, was the one to make a complaint about Thomas and his DSLR aimed at her direction from above. - Louie
Guilty until proven Innocent? There's some rights for you Jason - Johnny Worthington
Was "Thomas" sent to prison? Talk about hyperbole... you've learned well from "Thomas" - Jason Carreira
You are right Jason. I was wrong. Thomas (My gawd he doesn't even use his own name!) did the wrong thing. He shouldn't have made a fuss about it. Maybe I should ask a few people only to ride at the back of the bus and tell my wife she can't vote. Hell I can get my 2 year old daughter to work in a sewing house in 3 years. Now THAT's hyperbole... - Johnny Worthington
About an hour ago, Jason suggested that Thomas Hawk should have taken this up with management. However, Blint IS managment. As the Director of Visitor Relations, he is the person responsible for Hawk's experience at the museum. Well, we'll have to wait and see what Blint says about this. Since (to my knowledge) he didn't say anything over the weekend, presumably he'll make a statement Monday. He will, won't he? - Ontario Emperor from fftogo
The real story here is the power of bad publicity. Whether or not this story happened as Thomas told it is almost irrelevant. The internet is becoming a more and more powerful medium for stories like this to get out of hand and quickly destroy the reputation of people or businesses and establishments like this museum should quit ignoring it and hire someone to work solely on conversing with the online community and ensuring their reputation. - Brandon Titus
Phil Hendry
Walmart's "Buy 2 And Save" Old Spice Deodorant Deal Stinks - http://consumerist.com/5035189...
Ummm.... Old Spice? - l0ckergn0me
Old Spice is for grandads.. Lynx FTW! - Richie Keith
Veronica B. loves the Old Spice. - Louie
Jeremiah Owyang
I start my morning getting info from Friendfeed before anywhere else.
I start to more and more do the same: 1. Friendfeed 2. Jaiku 3. GReader - Niclas Strandh from Alert Thingy
First I consult the oracle that is my coffee cup, and then FF and Reader, - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Google Reader for information. Then FriendFeed for information and discussion. - Ontario Emperor from fftogo
is there a room for FriendFeed addicts? :) I belong there... - Baard @ Pixum
You can add feeds using imaginary friends - Jeremiah Owyang
I always start with FriendFeed, then Reader, and then, and only if I don't decide to blog, I'll glance at my email. - Kevin Gamble
Start with email (need to deal with fires that occur overnight) then GReader then friendfeed. - Jon Erickson
Coffee first before FriendFeed :D - AJ Batac
I think we all do. :) FriendFeed before breakfast. :D - Daynah
Ditto.. but I have a coke first - Dave Peck
FF first. - kamla bhatt
This last week being away from the PC has seen me use Facebook the most out of all the sites I frequent! - Joe Dawson
Me too. A long way to go before a "More people get their news from FriendFeed than from any other source" tag though. - Ben Wern
Same here. - Mattb4rd
i start w/GR and then FF - R. Ferguson
FF is my home page. i go FF, reader, and then a few MSM news sites. - Morgan
I have a feeling that I'm not getting all the news because I'm relying on FriendFeed as the source. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I always start with DrudgeReport and then move to Huffington. Then I open FF. - Chrimmus Tad
Email > Reader > FriendFeed > Social Median - Louis Gray
I wake up at 2pm, so I don't have a morning. email > twitter > rss > FF - Louie
Coffee<>Friendfeed<>Facebook<>News<>Then I get yelled at by my wife =0) - Jonathan.Rivera
+1 louis. rinse and repeat - Christian Anderson
Friendfeed has moved to the top of the list, even before my email - Pascal
1. NetNewsWire, 2. Internal Wikis, 3. eMails, 4. elsewhere (friendfeed et al.) - Gerrit Eicker
Morning:Techmeme,FriendFeed,Twitter - Igor Poltavskiy
l0ckergn0me
Has a Wrist Strap Ever Saved Your Camera? http://xrl.us/om8eb
Yes - Majento
My camera uses SD and my laptop has an SD card slot. So does my Nokia N800. In the past I had a Sony Cybershot with MS and a Sony Clie PDA with MS so I could transfer a picture that way if absolutely necessary. - Jake (aka Jawee)
No, but it saved my Wii remote from my drunken (at the time) step dad. - Louie
I nearly lost my camera when taking pictures on a ferry from Kowloon to Hong Kong. Praise the camera gods for wrist straps! - Michael Forian
wrist straps work for everything..psp camera flash drives - nick
I was at one time stubbornly opposed to wrist straps, until I realized I am clumsy and stuff is expensive and money really doesn't grow on trees. Who knew! Anyway, so yeah, now I am all about the wrist strap. - Frank Valletutti
I have one on my baby girl. Works like a charm. OK, not really. But it has saved my camera, yes. - Josh Haley
Oh yes! -
absolutely! plenty of times. didn't prevent the heart attack, though. - ::Kristen::
I barely use mines but they are good for klutzy hands - Outsanity
Yep, when I dropped mine out of the car window. - ha3rvey (free hugs!)
yes, numerous times. in precarious settings I always use the wrist strap to ensure camera is not lost. - Andrea B
have a neck strap and it has saved me multiple times...I'm a klutz! - Becky Rech
Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Do you ever think about the fact that your online friends would probably never be your meatspace friends?
Not as much as I think about the fact that I wish I lived closer to some of them because I have a feeling we WOULD be good meatspace friends... - Fa La La La Lindsay
Only re: cute girls. - Andy DeSoto
while it's probably true, that's the great part about online friends - they often can become meatspace friends as well. - Morgan
I guess I should clarify. Location aside, you may have never connected with certain people if not for the internet. Due to lifestyle or cultural differences and things like that. I find it quite interesting. Making friends online pretty much lets you cut through a lot of social bull - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Rahsheen I agree with you. @Lindsay, lately, I've been wishing I live closer to certain people. I honestly do believe I would be great buddies with some FFers, and like Morgan said, they CAN become meatspace friends as well. :) Now that's a reason to leave my computer and house--go meet FFers! ;-) - Anna Haro
Yes, but mostly because of location and circumstances. And you're right about the social bull Rahsheen. Sometimes that stuff can be off-putting. -
yes, no, maybe? I think perhaps not sometimes because of politics. I'm very low key on that, but I have my opinions. I don't find differing religious or political beliefs a reason to not be friends, but I believe it's a pretty common break point. - Todd Jordan
yes. online friendship easier to form because there is less of the "social bull," as Rahsheen calls it. gender can still be tricky, but culture and skin color matter so much less. Well, and appearance in general, obviously. :p - edythe
Rahsheen I agree - you get to know the people for who they are not what they look like, which is the beauty of this medium. - Morgan
It's one of the reasons I like doing Gnomedex. :) - l0ckergn0me
you need to get out more :-) A lot of my local online friends have become my meatspace friends. - Duncan Riley
It's also possible you would have simply never been in a position to meet. Those common social situations where you meet new people would just have never happened. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I wish more people in Oklahoma knew what the internet was. - Geoff Schultz
Honestly, many online friends most likely won't regardless of locality. Just call me a hermet. - RaAusar Powers
I'd like the idea of FF meet-ups but I don't know of many people in KS who are close to me. Although I'm willing to drive to somewhere like Lawrence, especially if we went to Free State -
It is easy for those whom live in a big city to meet. I live a fairly small town, and very few are on Twitter, so I would say there were almost nil on FF. - Michelle Martinez
Meatspace, I like that. :) The meats that I meet are still using MySpace. - Kevykev
I wouldn't call my real life "meatspace." That's the term me & my RL friends use when we refer to MySpace, because so many people on there are just looking for booty calls. lol - Louie
LOL @Geoff Schultz... :D - Anna Haro
I do - frequently - Dennis Howlett from twhirl
what's that? meatspace (totally serious) - Mona Nomura from fftogo
"Real life," Mona! - Andy DeSoto
I didn't know either till I saw it like 50 times today. - Geoff Schultz
meatspace sounds so icky. Like the deli counter or something. Meetspace is marginally better. But anyway, I'm ignoring my concern over the fact that I like it better here. :) - Yolanda
I think it's a little like friends you have because of other arranged circumstances, like friends because you were neighbors, friends because your parents were friends, friends because you have a mutual friend, and so on. If I'm honest, I don't think I'd reach out to a good portion of people I interact with online, but since I'm interacting with them anyway every time I use Twitter or... more... - Mark Trapp
haha...I guess it's all about control. I can take as much or as little of FF as I want. Contrary to meatspace, where it's much harder to block or hide your friend's date she met at an improv comedy driving school (he was the instructor). Interacting and engaging here is at my convenience, my leisure; FF serves at the pleasure of ME. - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Sometimes I wish I could hide certain things about my RL friends: for instance, I wish I could hide anything a certain friend says about his PSP. - ha3rvey (free hugs!)
The biggest bummer about having online friends that you don't have in meat space is virtual beer is no where near as good as real beer. I'd buy any of my FF friends a beer. Any time you're in/near Phoenix, let me know and me and Lindsay will have dinner with ya and buy you a beer. - Chrimmus Tad
I think it's better this way :P It would be interesting to see though - Shey, Jamaican of FF
Not much different than meeting someone over the phone in business over time. When you do meet them, it's gonna go one way or the other. Usually, a huge plus for those making a living on the Net to do a few meet-ups, conferences, etc. Networking takes on a whole new meaning. The problem? Most of them are overpriced ... locking out a lot of great people. - Charlie Anzman
I like having friends in both realms. Take 'em as you can, I say. - Josh Haley
Thats what makes it so great. Our social circles have expanded beyond creed, family, tribes, guilds, and states. - Ernie Oporto
Rahseen, I used to think of the two spaces as separate but increasingly my online and offline friend circles are one in the same. The sphere is larger online, obvs, but I've found that those who I connect with strongly online first, are also quite awesome offline people and cool to hang with and walk through life with. In the past year, I've spent much time in the bay area hanging with my mostly online community. I took a trip to Seattle solely to hang with "online" friends and... - Jason Toney
online friends have come to visit LA and more will come soon. The line that demarcates the two worlds is fading for me and will soon be completely gone, I think. - Jason Toney
I'm not just a piece of meat!.....in space! - Josh Haley
I have met some really cool people by way of the internet. It's a beautiful thing. I would use the "love" button on this if i could. - DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Nope. - Pete Delucchi
Shit how many of the online friends are you friends anyway? As soon as some shit hits they run for cover! Friends to Spam friends? - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
LOL, you made me Google "meatspace".. I just usually use IRL.. but I know there are some ppl I know IRL (or at the meatspace deli counter) who are completely different in cyberspace - they're funnier, more confident and more outgoing online than I have ever known them in the 5 years that I've worked with them.. - Kim from feedalizr
I would have used IRL, but I didn't want to look like some old fogy from IRC. I haven't seen anyone use that term around here....LOL. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
haha! so now I look like an old fogy from IRC - ok I'm busted! :) - Kim
LOL, I think we're both busted now. At least we can claim to have wisdom...or something :) - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I do think about it at times. - Czar
i'd be down to meet up and have a few drinks with some local ny'ers on FF and i'd totally meet up with people across the country or welcome them when in nyc. i'm always open to expanding my circle of friends and associations. it's nothing - Cee Bee
I have been very lucky that most of the people that I have interacted with and even become on-line friends with have been just as nice in person or the RW. - Mathew A. Koeneker
See, my comments killed this thread. - Mathew A. Koeneker
It's the opposite for me. Several people I have met online ARE my friends IRL now. I think it also depends on how you use the internet. - Trish R
l0ckergn0me
Wondering if I should give a "Gnomedex Scholarship" free pass for a random FriendFeed friend, too? Criteria might be: ability to be there, age (18+), strong affinity for technology. Hmmmmm...
If it weren't in Seattle... - Todd Jordan
Blatant and shameless begging shall commence - "Me! Me!" Jumping up and down, waving arms, 1 hr south in Tacoma <grin> - Cheryl Allin from NoiseRiver
I think it'd be a great idea. You'll be recruiting another young ambitious technology-driven person, aka geek. :) - Daynah
Would be more interesting if I wasn't already coming. :) Am I'm coming from Florida. Better be fun! :-) - David Risley
i'm spreading this to worthy people I know in Seattle - Beth Kanter
If they have to be on the Digital Eve list, I'm so totally in <grin> NWR list? hehe - Cheryl Allin from NoiseRiver
That sounds like a great idea. Maybe get all interested parties to comment on a FF post? - Brad Butner from twhirl
I'd be interested, but college student = too broke to fly to Seattle from SF. - Louie
Great Idea, but as others have said not many younger peeps can afford to get to Seattle, I know i could if if it was free (I have savings), but most wouldn't be able to. - Andrew Fielding
look at the clock ur getting sleepy sleepy free pass goes to me sleepy - adolfo foronda
It certainly would be nice, I could probably make it out to Seattle this time around. - Steve Spalding
Hm... now who could I hit up for the *rest* of the trip... thinking, thinking... oh heck, I'd find somebody, wouldn't I!! :) - Lucretia Pruitt
Getting people up to Seattle will be the toughest thing. Either for lack of funds or lack of time. - Robert Scoble
Reads message :D...sees +18...D: - Toastpaint
Eric Rice
Apple Reviews NetShare; Permanent Ban Likely | Gadget Lab from Wired.com - http://blog.wired.com/gadgets...
Apple Reviews NetShare; Permanent Ban Likely | Gadget Lab from Wired.com
Man, FUCK Apple and AT&T too. - Eric Rice from Bookmarklet
This truly blows. Back to believing I gave up too much for a pretty crashtastic eye candy phone. - Jim Stanger
I'm pissed at myself for not grabbing it. - l0ckergn0me
seriously, I actually googled the Instinct from Sprint/Samsung. - Eric Rice
The quote from AT&T translates into "We haven't figured out a way to charge separately for iPhone tethering." or "We're working on a way to charge separately for tethering." US carriers have consistently blocked functionality in phones to nickel and dime their customers. This is nothing new. - Kenya
ATM=Apple tricked me? :P - Mark Forman
looks like i win again. JoikuSpot > NetShare =P - Louie
Surely it's down to the user not to break the T&Cs of their contract. Apple shouldn't decide that for you. A simple 'this may not be allowed under the terms of your contract' on the app's iTunes page would be enough. - Martin Bryant
I'm having fun using on JoikuSpot on my Nokia E90 to allow my iTouch to access the net when I'm away from a normal hotspot. :-) It also costs me a lot less to own an E90 + 3G data than the iPhone plans would cost me here in NZ. Over here, the iPhone would cost nearly NZ$7000 on the 2 year plan. I think JoikuSpot + iTouch wins completely. - Stephen Cropp
Does AT&T have Apple by the seeds or what? - TheMacMommy
It's nothing new, but the shiny toy factor helps get it into the open. Other things, like who really invented visual voicemail (sprint), no one will care about. - Eric Rice
i have it, and the light saber, but will apple try to take them away from me next update? :( - sean percival
Heh sean, yeah I'm really really really wanting to jailbreak (to get qik) but damn, i'm scared to - Eric Rice
My iphone never had this functionality, it just got it. Then i see products for sale, then no then yes then no then yes. So yeah, logically speaking, it is unreasonable. And the same griping should exist for broadcast flags, output control by the MPAA on TVs, and the reasonable expectation of functionality being nixed. - Eric Rice
I got the 3g, kicking myself for selling the old one. Now I have to wait longer for qik (doesnt run on 3g model). - sean percival
This is where someone inevitably brings up some straman like guns or cocaine, which is silly. We're talking about the class of consumer products with some functionality, or even more then some functionality, no wait we changed our minds. I'm glad car makers don't pull this shit that I can tell. - Eric Rice
Vincent: That's what the App Store is there for, son...to make the device extensible. That said, the iPhone has LESS functionality than I thought it would. I'm typing this on my desktop because Safari crashed twice while doing it on the phone. So yep, it sux when you get kicked in the balls with shoody tech as well as slapped in the face with the nickle-n-dime policies. My first Apple product in more than a decade, and if they don't get with it soon, my last. Where is your god now, Apple Fan Boyz?!? - Jim Stanger
so glad im waiting for android phones - Greg Bond from twhirl
The shoddy tech is the constant crashing of my phone software, bro. Tethering is just the "...and the horse you rode in on." part. 3G disappears for no reason, battery life, yadda yadda. Google the rest, 'cause I'm just getting angry typing it all. Gee I'm cranky today. Quick, write something good. Cube Runner does rule. - Jim Stanger
Mo Kargas
My friendfeed is inundated with some Blint photography story, how can I hide em all at once? Ohh wait, I can't.
Friendfeed, give me filtering please. I don't give a shit about US domestic issues thanks. - Mo Kargas
this story bugs me too. - linkman77
What sucks is people I don't follow, but say, Mona N follows, I get all their diggs. So my feed is absolutely coated with the same story and X comments. I can't see anything but the diggs. It's ridiculous - Mo Kargas
Hide all the diggs, sorry. But Mo, do you understand how awesome this is? In just a few hours, the story made it to 'popular'. It's the power of the internet, seriously. - Mona Nomura
oops, directions. Click 'hide' on a digg entry --> hit options --> click, 'hide all entries like these' (don't worry, the entries are at the very bottom of the page, so tomorrow, when it dies down, you can un-hide, if you want :) - Mona Nomura
I like to click on certain streams like mona's and then just bookmark it so I get just one person's. I bookmark all my favorites so I see all they have done. I do wish there was a page of no friend of friend stuff though. - Shawn aka ringking from twhirl
Not your fault Mona, just another example of why FF needs some sort of comprehensive filtering. I'm glad the issue has risen for you, but I simply don't care about it. Thanks for the tip ! - Mo Kargas
It sort of felt like you were pimping the story. I decided to skip over it for now. - Mathew A. Koeneker
No prob. - Shawn aka ringking from twhirl
Mathew: Fair enough. I do not know the man, personally, only through FriendFeed. However, after reading his piece, I felt strongly about the situation since: 1. He did no wrong. and 2. It is NOT ok for people to be treated in the way that he was. Instead of reading, complaining, and moving on with my life, I decided to do something about it. If that's portrayed as 'pimpin', then so be it. :) - Mona Nomura
Shawn: Thank you for the kind words about my stream, and I'm glad you enjoy it :). There is a way to turn of FoF option... I have to look, brb - Mona Nomura
I'm wearing out my "hide" button because of this story. - Louie
Mona N, I did what you suggested, I swear it came up with 'hide friend of a friend' stories? - Mo Kargas
Mona: No harm, no foul imho. It just seemed to pop up a too virally. If it is still around tomorrow, I will read it. - Mathew A. Koeneker
From bacon to spam? What has become of the quality meat? :P - Mark Forman
Mo: Yes, I just tried it, and that's exactly the way to do it :) And I was digging through my account settings, and such LOL!! Louie: If you read a few lines above you, you'll find out how to hide more efficiently ;) @Matthew: I don't feel this strongly about topics, often. so hopefully you'll come around to reading the story ;) Thomas Hawk does amazing things for the FriendFeed community, and this is the least that I felt I can contribute! =) - Mona Nomura
@Shawn: If the Friend tab is too 'noisy', and you'd prefer to filter by individuals, there's always the RSS option! - Mona Nomura
@Mona: That is what I do now. I have one for you, Chris Pirillo, Leo Laport, and a few other people. Just wish I could have a page devoted to the people I subscribe to. Ohh well. - Shawn aka ringking
Mona: those hide options don't help me at all. I don't want to hide all of member x's entries, or all diggs, or blah blah blah. FF needs a filter option so I we can hide all of these repeats. I read, I dug, I'm over it. - Louie
Then join the FF room and bitch at them, Louie. I don't develop for FF.. :) btw, you can hide all 'digg' items for tonight, then un-hide... btw, why aren't you on AIM you bastard! @Shawn: I wish I can offer a better solution, but that's all I can think of right now =( - Mona Nomura
Maybe I should drop a suggestion of that on the friendfeed forum or something. - Shawn aka ringking from twhirl
Mona: I never said you did. I just meant that your suggestion didn't apply. Anyways, back to the Olympics. - Louie
@Mona: It's cool. I've had FF running for like a month and still trying to figure it out :) - Shawn aka ringking from twhirl
Shawn: FF may seem a little hectic, but once you get used to, it's SUPER addicting. Btw, Louis Gray has some AWESOME write-ups on FriendFeed features and functions. They actually helped me A LOT! ;) http://www.louisgray.com/live... - Mona Nomura
I feel quite dumb and figured it out on my own. I just go to hide something and then goto the options of hiding and it says hide friend of friend. So I got it the way I want it now. - Shawn aka ringking
Dude, I'm RIGHT with you! It took over a month, to figure out how to post via bookmarklet.. and I'm *still* learning new features and functions everyday ;) But I'm glad you were able to customize it the way you wanted to! Once I got used to it, I no longer go on my Google Reader, since FF provides me with all the latest headlines (and diggs HA!) - Mona Nomura
@Mona: So true. I love FF for it being a RSS reader. I have a couple of imaginary friends. I wonder how many people know about that feature? - Shawn aka ringking
Shawn, I think you JUST may have done your part with informing :) Mo: Sorry to hijack the thread. But hopefully it was more helpful, than harmful :D - Mona Nomura
@Mona, no worries, no harm done at all, your help is just what I was after :) - Mo Kargas
It's amusing Friendfeed is like a chatroom we start on one topic and then somehow get to another which is not really related at all :) - Shawn aka ringking
This is why I only ☻ "Like" the original post by Thomas Hawk. - LouCypher
Kevin Rose
The Rise and Fall of Twitter [Video] - http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
yeah - ANOTHER Hitler explains the down fall of "x" videos - yeah we never will get tired of that!... </Sarcasm> - Brad Parler
Brad: +1 - Louie
Chrimmus Tad
List Of The Day: Wedding Dress Of The Day - http://listoftheday.blogspot.com/2008...
List Of The Day: Wedding Dress Of The Day
Well... if ya got em... - Chrimmus Tad from Bookmarklet
Holy Boobs, Batman! Sheesh! I hope her father didn't pay for that get-up... :-| - Lisa L. Seifert
those the flower girls? umm...appropriate FAIL - Anna Haro
I'm seeing things that shouldn't been seen in a wedding dress.. or out of one I should say. - Daynah
c'mon, guys. it was the best she could do after going in for that ill-advised boob job as part of her bachelorette party... - Trent Olson
Please, no. - Bren -- Loves Chrimmuh
very virginal looking - well played. - Morgan
classy! - Cee Bee
I kept scrolling by this..couldn't figure out why it wouldn't go away...lo and behold...I saw the boobies... - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
HOLY MOLEY!! - Louie
*Crosses off number 10 on Mona N 's List of the Day"* - Geoff Schultz
Umm, I'm no fashion expert, but I think that this dress lacks something. - Steven Perez
I can't believe the sophomoric comments on the blog post. Who cares what her "profession" is or whether her breasts are augmented or not? It's the dress. It's just the dress. That's all that matters here. - Yule Heibel
I was thinking maybe this the "after-the-wedding" shot - she was all proper looking during the wedding, but now that they're off on their honeymoon, she's ripped off the business part to reveal the party part... - Chrimmus Tad
Oh my! - AJ Batac
Pwease - this one is a photoshop job. Just look at the sharply clipped shadow along her shoulder, and how it goes off in a straight line. Crapphy photoshop job, I might add. - Yuvi
*cries* - Yolanda
perhaps this is a new trend happening in russia? take a look: http://i36.tinypic.com/2m5dswh... - Cee Bee
ummmmmm.... - Kamilah Gill
Yuvi, I'm usually the one that cries "Photoshop!" If that's true in this case, I'll be a little sad. This was too funny... - Kamilah Gill
@Kamilah, we can hope all we want to, but the World hasn't advanced to this stage yet :P - Yuvi
Maybe she got stung by a bee that day? - Capn' One Eye - adrift
classy... real classy. - andy brudtkuhl
The hairdo is pretty bad also. Maybe that's why she's displaying the girls so prominently. -
"Dearly boobloved....." - Omar Gallaga
ZOMG. The sluttiest wedding dress I've ever seen - Duncan Riley
Matrimonial mammaries - Mattb4rd
Am I allowed to double-like this? - Andy DeSoto
Oops! Oh sweetie, your kids (and you) are going to hate this in years to come! - Kate Foy
Clearly, their biggest asset. - susan mernit
edythe
Pretty pretty. - Chrimmus Tad
nice selection of redheads! is this in response to the Vogue cover? - Trent Olson
yes! :) - edythe
lovely, but dangerous! - Geoff Schultz
i 100% support the new redhead meme! - Trent Olson
Curses! FriendFeed has discovered my lone weakness! Retreat! - Steven Perez
Trent: +1! - Louie
love red heads - RAPatton
awesome! - Thomas Hawk
Awesome. - Mark Trapp
I support our new redheaded lords and masters... yum! - Jason Carreira
My first gf was a redhead and subsequent ones haven't measured up :) - Prolific Programmer
Prolific, i think no matter what colour your first gf's hair was, subsequent ones rarely do measure up... - Trent Olson
oh, dear... - edythe
Kidman, Ambrose, Everhart, Witt, Fonda. - AJ Kohn
i like redheaded women. why do all redheaded dudes look like ralph malph though? - Cee Bee
i do not look like ralph malph! i resent that! - Trent Olson
no offense, of course. lol - Cee Bee
i was going to suggest Rick Astley as a non-Ralph Malph redhead, but on second thought... - Trent Olson
What, you're not a Caruso fan? - AJ Kohn
IAwsome photography, There are shades, tones, contours, textures, personalities ,expressions all rolled into to this Set ! - Peter Dawson
no, there are some really good-looking red-headed men, definitely. Peter Dawson, thank you. :) - edythe
Great set, but one is missing... http://friendfeed.com/felicia - Michael W. May
you are right, mwm. :) - edythe
Don't forget me! - Toby Graham
What Mark and Thomas said. - Charlie Anzman
I like the way people are creating 'sets' of favs for FriendFeed, interesting - Kol Tregaskes
Yuvi
I *hate* my voice :(
I blame Mona - Yuvi
Yuvi: be yourself :) - Mona Nomura
Really, I thought I had a good Voice. Then I heard *your* voice (I haven't listened to much podcasts except Channel9 ones). I *still* thought I had a good voice. Then I tried recording my voice. eeeek! Maybe it's the shitty mic... - Yuvi
Our voices rarely sound good recorded. Chances are you have an excellent voice. -) -
Make that: our voices rarely sound good *to ourselves* when recorded. To everyone else, they sound the same... Your voice resonates in your head and sounds different from the inside that from the outside. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
But what 'bout mona? 'bout all those podcasters whose voices sound infinitely better on Mic? - Yuvi
It's very rare that someone likes how they sound recorded. - Jordan Hofker
Thanks for clarifying SB! Still trying to get my blood sugar back up. :D -
'bout the 'our voice sounds crap to us' thing - is it really true? I've heard other people say that too, but not too sure. Any podcasters who can relate? - Yuvi
I feel like my recorded voice sounds too high and little-girlish (especially compared to my Mom's) but people have told me they like it and they think it sounds sweet *shrug* - Kamilah Gill
Yuvi, every biology teacher and psychology professor I've had used that as their "what happens in your mind is completely different than what happens in the external world" example. I'd say what Stupid Blogger is saying is accurate. That it sounds like crap to you is subjective: if you're interested in using your voice for podcasting, announcing, or even radio, the best thing you could... more... - Mark Trapp
Yuvi, I HATE MY VOICE!! I hated that recording. I was a stuttering, inarticulate, idiot (hence all those annotations). But a good friend, who is a voice actor, told me that we are our own worst critics. She hates her own voice, yet makes a living from it. :) - Mona Nomura
I worked in telecomm customer service for a while and we had to listen to our recorded calls for assessment purposes. Everyone said they sounded different in the recordings... After you hear it enough, you do start to get used to the way you sound outside of your own head, but it'll never sound the same. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Mark, I got the 'my voice is good' opinion from School - even though I was blasted for using supposedly American pronunciation in places, I was usually picked as announcer. Never recorded it tho - first time I did it today, and I came away with a really 'terrible' opinion of my voice. - Yuvi
Maybe I should host a clip somewhere and ask people for opinions? - Yuvi
Thinking about it, when we have Text microblogging services (Twitter) and Video ones (Seesmic), where are the audio ones?? - Yuvi
Yuvi: Just post it. Otherwise, you will contemplate on and on. :) - Mona Nomura
Yuvi: Utterz (http://utterz.com) is an audio microblogging service, and I guess you could also include Pownce. - Mark Trapp
Try singing when you're not a particularly good singer (youtube.com/mattb4rd). I just try not to be too hard on myself and have fun. It's helping. I'm pondering my first video review for Expo-TV. Maybe this weekend. - Mattb4rd
@Yuvi: Utterz. You can call in - Rodfather
Trying Utterz. @Rodfather - I prolly couldn't, I'm not in the US :) - Yuvi
Oh well. You can make an audio entry with the flash interface as well. Webcam video too. - Rodfather
@Rodfather - yeah, testing that out now :) - Yuvi
I know lots of pros who make their living with their voice -- and still can't stand listening to themselves. i never could. - Chris Baskind
I don't like my voice, but I'm a singer and a rapper and people seem to like it *shrug* - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Damn, voice recording on Utterz zucks. Sigh. - Yuvi
I hate my voice, too, so I speak in a phony British accent. I'm kidding about the second part; deadly serious about the first. - Akiva Moskovitz
LOL @ Phony British accent! Indian accent is an extremely unique accent, innit? - Yuvi
Yuvi, not in India. - Akiva Moskovitz
@Akiva - Well, there's not even a single unique Indian accent. People from different parts of the country speak English in their own ways :) - Yuvi
Eh, people say that I sing well, but when I listen to playback it sounds like utter crap. I wonder what Leo Laporte's sounds like to him. I think he has a pretty damn nice voice. - Louie
I hate my voice, too; but I won't let that stop me. Keep singing. For some reason I've just been recruited as a dj, something I haven't done for 30 years or so - but excellent for trying out some vocal exercises -<>) - Chris Loft
l0ckergn0me
I dare you to start using this as your avatar. - http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/2008...
I dare you to start using this as your avatar.
That is one ugly dog - Brian Sullivan
Was that a dog? - AJ Batac
Make that two ugly dogs - Brian Sullivan
*alternates between fear and laughter...nervous laughter* - Mo Kargas
Brian LOL - Mona Nomura
looks like a girl I dated - johnpiercy
HAHAHHAHAHAHHA - Mona Nomura
Mona: I think your link is going to give me nightmares! - Justin Korn
foto: you have questionable standards - Louie
I have zero standards - johnpiercy
tubgirl? - Louie
God damn....that is hideous. - Zee.
Kinda reminds me of a gremlin, no? - Justin Korn
Please give us a "Dislike" option. - Larry Kless from twhirl
Quick! Get the dog whisperer! - Jose Perez
Mona you one Sick puppy! You are a Stalker! LOL http://ict.tippinst.ie/~bgoldb... - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
who put that giraffe in the microwave? im calling the aspca - Sean Savage
I think it already looks like my avatar. Enough said. - Kamath (नमः)
damn that thing is ugly! - David Ward
is it dead? - Bob Blunk
Dare accepted. - Vermyndax from twhirl
Dare complete. - Vermyndax from twhirl
Is it your blind date that you picked up on MySpace? LOL - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
While Sam the dog seems to have an unchallenged entry in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... there had been a request about removing Doc Searl's entry a few days ago http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc... - Benedikt Koehler
awesome! looks like a few chaps from England that I met. - Noah David Simon
How many bloody times do I need to hide this hideous beast? - Akiva Moskovitz
I hear he eats sheep Akiva. - Noah David Simon
He looks very friendly... - hawk12online
Go pet him! He will bite your hand off! LMAO - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Czar
A Compendium of Beautiful Libraries - http://curiousexpeditions.org/...
A Compendium of Beautiful Libraries
A Compendium of Beautiful Libraries
Ok, so I've found my next house... - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I can't wait for the day that the Internet will be just as pretty. :) - Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Didn't I see this on an episode of Dr. Who recently? - Fa La La La Lindsay
reminds me of when I was a kid and decided I was going to read all the fiction books in the library. So I checked out the first five books. Nope don't remember a one. - R. Ferguson
Ruth, you have no idea how glad I am to know that I'm *not* the only kid who tried to read the library! - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
The Seattle Central Library was my favorite thing to shoot in Seattle on my recent trip. I *love* beautifully designed libraries. - Thomas Hawk
I'd like to have every room setup as a library, I love the big old houses with the fireplaces and libraries seems very Vincent Price. My 2 favorites that I've been to ar the Biltmore Estate and JP Morgan Musuem - clarke thomas from twhirl
there is something romantic and powerful about beautiful libraries. To me they're the real world treasure chests of endless possibility. - Morgan
Whoaa..... lock me in with some food, a bed & bathroom, then throw away the key. Thanks. - Louie
I love libraries, this is a treasure. - susan mernit
Incredible, thanks for sharing. +1 Czar. - Aaron Krug
Oh, God. I am in love. Well done, Czar. - Steven Perez
Gosh! Beautiful analog storage devices - Chris Loft
Oh, my! That was fun to look through!! - Lisa L. Seifert
Waow! Fantastic Images!! - Ashesh Ramjeeawon
that's a hell of a page! too much info! the joint in portugal is my favorite with the one in austria a close second. - Cee Bee
I think I'm drooling. Books... Beautiful architecture.... great photos.... - InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
I'm staring hard at these pictures instead of working now :( - Kevin Francis
Beautiful. Another fine library is in northern Italy: http://picasaweb.google.com/Wenero... Best thing: they also produce some of the finest wines in South Tyrol. - Benedikt Koehler
My library looks nothing like these.. heh They're gorgeous! - Daynah
beautiful - Marcel Weiß
Very nice - Bob Gannon
wow!!! - lohang
I'm oddly pleased that almost 90 people have marked this as a like. Says something about the FF community if you ask me (which of course you didn't). - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
This is a great list to use to add places in the world to my map of things that I still need to shoot. So many beautiful libraries. - Thomas Hawk
I love books and magnificent libraries - William Harryman
Glad I was able to share something you enjoyed. Thanks for the likes + comments. - Czar
I need a basement - SolidSmack from twhirl
Whoaa! Nice finding, Derek. Thanks for sharing. - LouCypher
I've actually been to quite a few of these all across Europe, and they're even more awesome (and smell FANTASTIC) in person. Some are considerably smaller than the photos make them appear, which is always interesting (kinda like the church in the wedding scene in The Sound of Music...it's seems huge on film, but it's really this dinky little chapel filmed wide and high). Really great to be reminded of those visits. Thanks for posting this. :) - abacab
This is an awesome set of photos. Proud to see my alma mater's Riggs Library included in the list. - Ryan Kuder
at one point in my life, i moved the entire collection of books at the Peabody in Baltimore. not necessarily a fun job but it is exciting knowing that the collection will more than likely sit where i put it for the next twenty years. - Nathan Eckenrode
Kenichi Matsumoto
"Real People Don't Have Time for Social Media." http://www.socialmedian.com/story...
I was with a bunch of real people (non geeks) tonight. What did they talk about? Facebook. - Robert Scoble
Ironically enough, I found this very article at "socialmedian" this morning, posted to "twitter" then commenting on "friendfeed". Are we real? - Kenichi Matsumoto
I have time for it:) - Igor Poltavskiy
I was with a bunch of real people tonight. What did we talk about? Our jobs, relationships, movies, food/restaurants... you know, things that regular people talked about before the social media timesuck. - Louie
Real people hardly have time to do anything. - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Louie is one of those guys who always ruins a party. Sigh. Today I saw Dark Knight, which was OK, but Maryam thought it sucked. Argued politics at one party. Talked about all sorts of things at another party. Now am working on a column about the future of journalism. - Robert Scoble
Ummm why the early 90's have to register to read the article?? - Justin Yost
this reminds me very much of when girls would give us a hard time for talking sports all day. The sentiment is captured well in City Slickers. What's important to some folks just isn't to others. - Morgan
Damnn Robert you are (quite literally) the first person I've heard from who didn't like The Dark Knight. - Mohit
Mohit: I liked it, my wife didn't. - Robert Scoble
Chuck Norris doesn't have time for social media, nobody lives long enough to comment on his fighting skill anyway - Antoine Bertier
Robert, I think FB is the one social networking app that most "normal" people have learned to love. Just not sure if they have room for more than one. - Kate
Even overhearing folks at church talk about Facebook and MySpace. - Todd Jordan
if FB is the social media for "normal people" then I NEVER want to be normal!!! - Dieter Schwarz
I can't seem to access the article, but I get the drift. I like Clay Shirky's talk on video discussing where we find the time: http://tinyurl.com/5o79x3 I tell my colleagues that, yes, a lot of people are busy, but then a lot of other people also just watch TV. I spend hours online instead of (or often in addition to) watching TV. Television has made our minds very inactive over the years. - Connie Crosby
So true. That's why most of my non-geek friends have a Facebook/MySpace account. I guess we all must be living in the Matrix. - darnell
I use Social Media quite a lot, but I probably watch less than an hour's TV a month. I'd rather interact with 'real' people - geeks or otherwise, online, than suffer the largely mindless dross and BS pumped out of the idiot box, which I can't answer back. - Ian May
Hmm, when I try to click the 'About SocialMedian' page, I get that signup prompt. So I have to sign up and then find out what you are about? Weak sauce. - beersage
+1 Morgan - BeeLing
@beersage -- we agree. we haven't had a chance to get rid of some of the remaining registration requirements we put in place during alpha. Will be cleaning that up soon. - Jason Goldberg
I would spend more time with Social Media if I didn't keep getting headaches from reading. - Shelly Weiss
Well, if you look at the entire population of the world and how they spend their time, "real" people are mostly engaged in backbreaking labor in filthy conditions and wondering where their next meal is coming from. So can I be fake please? Thank you. - Karim
It also depends on age demographics. Being 27 - everyone my age and below spends hours on Facebook/Myspace or both. My housemate is just two years old and has a Myspace account but barely uses it. I think Social Media is something the younger generations have as a part of their life and devote their time to it like it was any other entertainment vessel.... - George Smith
George - is that a typo or does your two year old housemate REALLY have a Myspace? - Shelly Weiss
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