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Holiday Lighting Win - http://failblog.org/2009...
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- Kevin Fox
from Bookmarklet
LMAO That's so incredibly awesome.
- Admiral Anika
=)
- Micah Wittman
Google Wave explained by Pulp Fiction. THIS IS AWESOME. - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Mona Nomura, Joel Webber, Stephen Mack and 6 other people liked this
BANG!
- Claudio Cicali ♋
Was that to help understand Google Wave or Pulp Fiction better?
- Neal Krummell
It might help us understand the utility of Wave. ;-) -- Seriously though, I'm keen on seeing how people use the private installations of Wave.
- Kevin Fox
Weekly Coworking at Venue 222 - http://www.cincycoworks.com/weekly-...
Chrys liked this
Interesting idea in force in Cincinnati for easing into co-working. Mentioned by @exposur3 as a possibility for easing into co-working in Charleston...
- Jared Smith
Yeah, that post really clicked as a way to see if this idea has legs. Now we just need *the right* location!
- Chrys
Amazing interactive 360-degree panoramic view of the entire night sky | Mail Online - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...
Jason A. Samfield, Christian Hollingsworth, Lumino_GmbH and 100 other people liked this
"A new magnificent 800-million-pixel panorama of the entire sky has been unveiled online today. It was stitched together from 1,200 photos by astronomers at the European Southern Observatory from viewing sites in Chile."
- Benjamin Golub
from Bookmarklet
wow!
- Chris Myles
Oh wow. Totally resharing this, thx!
- Ayşe E.
You're not going to see anything like this in the Northern Hemisphere. This is only the night sky for those south of the equator. But it is cool.
- Nina Jansen
WOW!
- Susan Beebe
LOVE it!!
- Roshan Ramachandran
hmmm didn't supply a link in the article! Ahh its the Daily Mail, to explain to non-UK-ites, the Daily Mail is the UK equivalent of Fox News.
- Toby Graham
http://www.gigagalaxyzoom.org/ for the full thing.
- Otto
Also: High res download here: http://videos.spacetelescope.org/gigagal... (25MB). All images are better when used as desktop wallpaper.
- Otto
wow thats huge! 800 megapixels...
- Matt Ellsworth
Truly beautiful! Makes earthlings so small!
- Cool Wired
wow it's beautiful.
- Benjo Castillo
NetFlix Everywhere: Sorry Cable, You're History - http://www.wired.com/techbiz...
Denise Howell, Michael Fidler, Noah David Simon and 40 other people liked this
"Three days later, at an all-company meeting in the same amphitheater, Hastings announced that there would be no Netflix Player. Instead, he would spin off the device, letting developer Anthony Wood take the technology and his 19-person team to a small company Wood had founded years earlier called Roku. But Netflix, which had already begun streaming movies to users' PCs, was hardly giving up on the idea of streaming them to televisions as well. Instead, the company would take a more stealthy—and potentially even more ambitious—approach. Rather than design its own product, it would embed its streaming-video service into existing devices: TVs, DVD players, game consoles, laptops, even smartphones. Netflix wouldn't be a hardware company; it would be a services firm. The crowd was stunned. In half an hour, Hastings had completely reinvented Netflix's strategy."
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
It's fun to dream of a day when cable companies and satellite content providers are out of business. I've been really impressed with Netflix's Watch Now service. The breadth of content available is impressive and combined with newer release TV and films via DVD mail the service is powerfully poised to replace cable and satellite.... one of these days hopefully.
- Thomas Hawk
It's endless though -- if cable and satellite companies go out of business or are no longer in the content supply business -- there will be a new evil supplier.
- Brian Sullivan
Thomas, which codes do I punch in to get CNBC and Monday Night Football?
- Cristo
I'm sure it's a plot to dumb down the American public even more. "You will obey!"
- Kittyburgers
Look at it another way: if cable companies go out of business, who provides the pipe to deliver the content? The vast majority of people in this country get broadband via cable. Replacing them would require a huge infrastructure investment from somebody. Who's going to do that? Phone companies? Maybe, but they're shilling their own content services and aren't interested in being dumb pipes for everyone else's content.
- Kevin Pedraja
@ Kevin Pedraja: Electric companies if they can get approvals. I think there are a lot of lawsuits right now trying to block the powerline companies saying it's unfair competition.
- ChiliMac
Netflix and TIVO with over the air content has made me very happy. Yes, I miss ESPN and I miss seeing some Cubs games that are on ComCast sports but I can go to bars for that. I LOVE not sending ComCast $100 a month.
- ChiliMac
ChiliMac, but don't you have Internet at home?
- Cristo
@Cristo good point. Personally I've got CNBC all day at the office so that's less important to me, but I suppose much of the info from CNBC could be gotten via the Web, even their website. In terms of Monday Night Football, that one's easy for a big chunk of America (although not all). Do like I did and buy a cheap OTA HDTV antenna and then capture the signal via your Media Center PC or TiVo. As a bonus you get to skip all the commercials.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas, MNF is on ESPN. The CNBC stream is not available online, AFAIK. Also, doesn't your office use cable to get CNBC?
- Cristo
Kevin, if the cable companies go out of business then they sell the pipes to someone else who can more intelligently manage them. Personally I'm using AT&T's uVerse offering right now for internet and it's much faster than cable anyways. Maybe by the time they go out of business their pipes will be antiquated technology as well.
- Thomas Hawk
The ecosystems of networks gets larger: netflix is a network. Realtime is next.
- Cliff Gerrish
from iPhone
Thomas, but that's sorta my point. AT&T is an alternative, but they're not interested in being a dumb pipe. They want you to pay for UVerse. And do you think their prices wouldn't go up if they weren't competing with cable? The bottom line is that selling bandwidth isn't a good business. Companies make money from all the services they layer on top of it.
- Kevin Pedraja
And an antenna is great if all you want to watch is broadcast network TV. How many people do that nowadays? Not many.
- Kevin Pedraja
Christo, Ah, good point. I don't watch sports generally speaking so I wasn't even aware that they were on ESPN, last I remember Monday Night Football was on ABC. I think businesses will still have a need for specialty programming like CNBC. But like the Bloomberg terminal that sits on my desk, I suspect that those offerings will become increasing tailored for specific business customers...
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- Thomas Hawk
"We're sorry. Currently, AT&T U-verse service isn't available for the address associated with this phone number:" and our building doesn't allow satellite dishes. We're two blocks from the AT&T central unit in downtown SF and there's 200 lofts in this building. Lots of people are stuck with cable.
- Cristo
AT&T is more than just a dumb pipe in terms of what I pay them. It's an obscene amount of money between my fiber internet, 2 iPhones in the house and a landline that we sort of have to keep alive for now so that the kids or babysitter can phone us from home if need be.
- Thomas Hawk
Cristo, agree on uVerse. But it's coming. Fiber is the future not cable.
- Thomas Hawk
Cristo, exactly. And in lots of cities and towns, cable providers have negotiated deals with municipal governments that effectively make them local utilities. There's no direct competition by mutual agreement.
- Kevin Pedraja
So Thomas, essentially you just traded DirecTV for AT&T?
- Kevin Pedraja
Cristo, I thought it was illegal to ban dishes, or is that just for single family dwellings? I wouldn't want Uverse personally, for a variety of reasons including that they already see too much of my traffic ;)
- LogEx
LogEx, there's this thing called homeowner's associations. If the building wants to have satellite, they can, but we don't individually have control over our roof. Additionally, when you have that many units, it's hard to get a consensus on who's willing to pay for a new service installation, especially since not everyone will take advantage of it.
- Cristo
http://www.fcc.gov/mb... ...so it may be just the roof commons issue rather than an actual restriction.
- LogEx
@Kevin. Well, yes, I traded DirecTV for uVerse, but the bill is lower and I get fast internet service with it. Plus I was able to cancel my DSL service that I was formerly paying for. I'm not sure exactly what I pay for uVerse, but it's a heck of a lot less than I used to pay for DirecTV and slower DSL internet service combined.
- Thomas Hawk
If I were in control, I'd try to set up a microwave for the building, and wire it to each loft. However, building politics and arguments make FriendFeed look like choir practice, and I've never left a meeting feeling better than when it started. :)
- Cristo
BTW, I'm getting 18.53Mb/s download, 3.93Mb/s upload with cable. What do you get with uVerse Thomas?
- Cristo
Good question Cristo. I'll have to check at home tonight and report back.
- Thomas Hawk
@Cristo: Yes I have internet. Not with Comcast.
- ChiliMac
When you get Internet from Comcast, you don't save that much by not getting TV with it. Therefore, if you can only get Internet from Comcast, you might as well get TV also.
- Cristo
What is the average cost of a basic internet package with TV service with Comcast? Curious.
- Kittyburgers
from IM
They advertise lower, but I think when all is said and done it's about $50-60 for basic cable and Internet.
- Kevin Pedraja
Despite how crappy their internet service is, my dad is still willing to stick to Time Warner because of League Pass and the ability to watch every single NBA game during the season. Time Warner even provides his telephone service. I still think it's going to be a while before cable dies.
- Victor Ganata
I tell you what I don't miss with Netflix though is commercials. I've become so spoiled from watching TV series via Netflix with no commercials that I'm finding myself bummed out these days even having to push the fast forward button on the Media Center remote for the OTA content. Even having to listen to 3 or 4 seconds of an ear splitting commercial before I quickly push the fast forward button feels like a pain compared to how fluid the commercial break transitions via Netflix.
- Thomas Hawk
That's a Huge point Thomas. Commercials (and lower quality) are exactly the reasons I don't watch much TV and movies on the Internet.
- LogEx
I have a 25/15 Verizon FiOS connection. It's fantastic. If not for sports, I'd dump cable completely and go with a combo Netflix OTA HDTV solution. Unfortunately I'm a Notre Dame alum and willing to pay $1200 a year for the two times a year the Irish are on ESPN. I also enjoy getting some European soccer games and the History Channel, but other than that, I'd completely get rid of FiOS TV (much better than Comcast though!)
- Matt
Agree with Thomas' comment about commercials. My wife and I have recently been watching Weeds, Dexter, and The Wire completely commercial free. It's excruciating having to watch anything live now. Even the simple act of fast forwarding my DVR seems like a huge hassle now, whereas 5 years ago it was a godsend.
- Matt
I actually like fast forwarding through the commercials and occasionally seeing one I find entertaining.
- ChiliMac
@Matt: Dude, that's what God event sports bars for! :D
- ChiliMac
@ChiliMac Heh, that won't work for my dad, he doesn't drink.
- Victor Ganata
Hey Matt, not to be nitpicky or anything, but Weeds, Dexter and the Wire were on Showtime and HBO. So they were always commercial-free. ;)
- Kevin Pedraja
"Fox crams 18 commercials into every Sunday night airing of The Simpsons, earning 54 cents per viewer. But, according to research firm Sanford C. Bernstein, Fox airs just three commercials for the same show on Hulu--a site it co-owns with NBC Universal and Disney--earning a measly 18 cents per viewer." - Huh, I had no idea Hulu was already doing that well, relatively speaking, in per-viewer revenue.
- Andrew C
Most DVRs have a 30-second forward (even Comcast), so commercials don't bother me that much. You just need to enter the right code and assign it to a button.
- Cristo
30 second advance is the bomb. I had a terrible time with Dollhouse last year though because my fingers were trained to hit the button four-five times, not two.
- Andrew C
that's great and wonderful. but US only. I know there's rights issues but until then being one country only is limiting them.
- Terry O'Fee
what do you mean limiting them, they work in the only country they do business in. Why don't you ask why they don't deliver discs overseas too?
- Richard Lawler
Lovely: The City Is A Battlesuit For Surviving The Future http://io9.com/5362912... (via @gnat)
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One of my pictures occupies a half-page of this week's TIME Magazine. Fair to say I'm pretty stoked about that.
Thierry R. Andriamirado, Iván Abrego, Anton and 78 other people liked this
that's exceptional--congrats.
- Jeremiah T. Gray
Congratulations.
- Admiral Anika
NOICE!!
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
well done you!
- Yolanda
Woohoo! Profit! :D
- Glen Mistletoe
That's Awesome!!! :)
- Internet's Tad
Cool!
- Jeff P. Henderson
Awesome, Anthony
- Alex Scoble
That's amazing... Congrats!
- Michael Hocter
Congrats, any link to the image? What were the circumstances?
- Derrick
Just found it, the Hollywood sign with smoke above it.
- Jeff P. Henderson
thanks, everyone! @derrick - here's it at one spot: http://friendfeed.com/photo-u...
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
Congratulations, Anthony! Please post it again...? :)
- Mona Nomura
Congrats!
- Gus
Congrats!
- Jim Goldstein
from iPhone
pretty cool. nice work
- Kamilah Gill
Congrats!
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Great :)
- Baard @ Pixum
congratulations!
- Michael Bravo
Congrats, Anthony! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Add mine to the list of Congratulations
- Sarah Slaven
Wow, major stokage! Congrats!
- Rick Cogley
Congrats!! Nice!
- BraGiu aka Beppe Bravi
Awesome! Congratulations!
- Ladybug Heather
Cool! Congrats !
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Very cool Anthony
- Hutch Carpenter
well done mate!
- dkb
CONGRATS!! that was an awesome pic! :)
- Susan Beebe
:)
- Russellreno
that's awesome Anthony. Congrats on that and the sale!
- Thomas Hawk
grazie all o'yaz!
- Anthony Citrano
Congratulations Anthony. That's Awesome.
- Stephen Baugh
Hey, nice. Congratulations.
- Christopher A Carr
That's fantastic! Congrats. I'll have to go out an buy a copy.
- Captain Jack
Congratulations, very cool man.
- Kyle Case
To @palafo -- any Wordpress installation can be cloud-enabled by installing this plug-in --> http://wordpress.org/extend...
Susan Beebe, Jalada, Mark Essel and 7 other people liked this
I did mine!
- Keith Rowland
Already 609 downloads of the plugin
- Jesse Stay
Holden - 2 - seems like quite an opportunity
- Jesse Stay
Automated-installed it 2 hours ago http://wittman.org :)
- Micah Wittman
Got ours installed.
- Ken Camp
pure poetry! Thanks for passing on the tip.
- Kirsten Mitchell
Does it still work if you throw your feed through Feedburner? Or does FB "clean" anything up?
- Jason Griffey
Over 2,000 downloads of the plugin now
- Jesse Stay
Yep, I am one of those downloaders - hehe
- Susan Beebe
Text of President Obama's Back to School Message | ABC News - http://abcnews.go.com/Politic...
Richard ¿digame? Walker, Nils Sandin, Helen Sventitsky and 31 other people liked this
“There were times when I was lonely and felt like I didn't fit in.” [Like now?] ;)
- Anthony Citrano
from Bookmarklet
It's odd but this speech is really about personal responsibility - something that the 'right' has been long supported. That no matter what your situation you need to take charge and do the right thing - and the first right thing is education. Conservatives should love this message - and I for one do as well. It's time for America to recapture its moxie.
- AJ Kohn
Obama could say something as innocuous as "Honor your mother" and the loony right would claim it was a satanic suggestion calling for kids to practice witchcraft. The message does not matter to them. It's the person delivering it that they hate. And 'hate' is just the word to describe what they feel.
- Kevin Pedraja
I love this man :)
- FFTornado
@Michael: Since public education is an extension of the government, then any curriculum will have some 'viewpoint' that can likely be associated with a political party. And to not have discussion points after a presentation (whether it be the President or a film-strip) is essentially denying that their should be any debate. The fact that they're having a discussion period about it is...
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- AJ Kohn
Michael, your argument does not hold up. The DOE has *always* had lesson plans available on everything happening on the Federal level. But their lesson plans are mere prompts. They have never superseded what is taught locally. And considering all of this was released today, it's silly to imply that this has been the argument all along when it clearly wasn't.
- Admiral Anika
@Michael: So, you'd like your state and local governments to reject any federal money?
- AJ Kohn
@Michael: So ... do you want the government money or not? :) California shot itself in the foot with Prop 13 and can't seem to get the stones together to repeal it. That said, I'd still take the federal money - first to ensure the most can be dedicated to education and second to ensure there is a balance of views that steer the schools.
- AJ Kohn
Of course this was re-written over the weekend.
- Spencer
My understanding is that CA still provides more money to the Federal government than it receives back. i.e. we are funding the infrastructure and education of other smaller states, many of which do not like CA. Maybe they would be willing to give up their federal money too?
- Jeff P. Henderson
Spenser, so, I could care less what the draft of the speech said, the only thing that matters is what the president delivers. In it's present form, I can not find anything objectionable or even remotely political or partisan about the text posted on the White house web site. (Which I assume is what the president will deliver tomorrow.)
- Jeff P. Henderson
Michael, your property taxes are WAY higher than in CA, which is primarily why your state and it's neighbors generate so much tax money. Prop 13 is the reason CA generates less per person. And yes we do have a large population of illegal and under paid residents who are not paying taxes. (Thanks to the Federal Governments refusal to control the border!)
- Jeff P. Henderson
I was trying to understand why the Right was so petrified of Obama's speech before they knew what was in it. (For example, saying "the speech was re-written over the weekend" is imagination, not fact.) Fear of imagined things originates in the self: "If I could address schoolchildren, I might pump them full of propaganda." "The health reform bill would lead to death panels," said by...
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- Daniel Dulitz
Who is @Michael? Did he bait you all and then delete the evidence? That's a *facepalm* without a doubt.
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
i really hate when people do that.
- Anthony Citrano
Richard, it sure looks that way...
- Jeff P. Henderson
I was almost convinced I blocked Michael. My list of blocked is about 2-3 though.
- Russellreno
I think this Michael dude is like Jacob from Lost? Everyone talks about him and the things he says but no one can see him...
- Olivia Lovag
I would like to block people who do that.
- Anthony Citrano
Well, I would like to get his FF username so that his *facepalm* can be awarded properly. Does anyone remember which Michael this is?
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
I think his last name was Williams.
- Admiral Anika
i can't find him. oh well, i'll keep my eyes peeled.
- Anthony Citrano
He's probably in the first seven listed here: http://friendfeed.com/friends... after looking at the list, I think I know who it is. His FF account is blank, but he's subscribed to me, so I'll dm him and report back.
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
Oops, I can't. It looks like http://friendfeed.com/bigmike... deleted the contents of his FF account, but left the account stub.
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
@Richard - boy, people are weird, ey?
- Anthony Citrano
. @whitehouse I am proud, as a conservative American, to have the privilege of having the President speak to my kids. Thank you.
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Jesse, I hope you'll have a political party that can speak for you in 2010 and 2012.
- Internet's Tad
Not likely, Tad. There aren't any that represent conservatives.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
couldn't agree more mark... though i find it intersting that some democrats are looking already for someone besides mr. obama
- Jonathan Jesse
I'd be delighted with a fiscally conservative party that held liberally social values (or at the very least, didn't base the party around intolerance).
- Internet's Tad
Agree, @Tad.
- Kurt Starnes
I'm a Bastard without a party right now. It's sad it's come to that.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, I'm right there with you.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Count me in, too.
- Kurt Starnes
The Bastard Party? It's got legs...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
I wrote a paper in my AP English class in high school about how this circular nature of parties takes place. At the moment the Republican party has pretty much moved so far to the right it's almost flaming liberal (again, think of it as a circle).
- Jesse Stay
Mark, I'm in.
- Jesse Stay
how much longer till the Republican Party splits, or has it already happened and no one noticed?
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Aaman, both parties are very split. There's just no good way of organizing the split.
- Jesse Stay
Sounds like what's happening in India - centre-right party in Opposition is imploding, the centre-left party in power (the Congress(I) is consolidating power and delivering credible governance, just re-elected after full term.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Hmm, that's an interesting topic for an article - note to self
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Tad, sounds like you need to be Libertarian.
- Jesse Stay
Libertarians are still a little too far left of middle for my taste. I agree with some Social liberalism, but not to the extent of extreme libertarianism. Republicans are too far right for my taste. I need something right down the middle.
- Jesse Stay
Been there, done that Jesse. For a while in the 90s I considered myself to be a hardcore anarcho-capitalist. I've realized over the years that a Libertarian government isn't suited to my own desires for humanity. The role of government should be to help hasten technological improvement and thus the Singularity. But then, I'm weird like that.
- Internet's Tad
Thanks Jesse for sharing your thoughts today. You are inspiring me to keep standing up for what I believe, and not what they Party has turned into.
- Sid Burgess
Sid, I love that song - it's inspiring.
- Jesse Stay
Republicans aren't conservative enough. However, that won't stop them from rolling over the dems in '10. Luckily, polls are showing the huge surge to conservatism in the U.S. People are finally realizing the government is not the answer.
- Spencer
Jesse, me too. And thanks to you I am in one of those moods... looking for inspiration today. :D
- Sid Burgess
Jesse, what if fiscal conservatives left the GOP and joined the LP? Would that shift the LP rightward enough for your tastes?
- Michael R. Bernstein
Michael, I guess we'd have to see. I'm definitely not moving - if one party moves towards my values I may join though.
- Jesse Stay
Good man. Would that there were more like you.
- Terry Hummer
Why does anyone associate the Republicans with conservatism?
- Robin Barooah
Jesse - let's start our own party. I am another lost step child of the Republicans. They have all gone Pat Buchanan on us
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
from iPhone
I'm rather irked that my own school district has opted to not show this speech live. While I can understand wanting to stay on topic within the middle and high school classes, making it a district-wide policy is irritating at a minimum. The speech is *for* our kids. I remember watching these as a kid and feeling rather proud to be an American each and every time.
- Renee Hendricks
I'll be happy when this whole stupid speech is over and my kids can get back to learning about academics.
- David C. Cooper
I still don't understand why people think the President addressing kids is a bad idea. There's no logic to it.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Mark, I didn't understand it either until I heard he held up Google, Facebook and Twitter, but didn't even mention FriendFeed. That's gotta be grounds for impeachment right there. :-)
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Oh man, I retract my statement then Bruce! ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, are you being sarcastic in your title?
- metalerik
The problem I have is with the Dept. of Education lesson plan that in essence called for kids to be Obama's field agents.
- Robert Hafer
from iPhone
matalerik, not at all. I mean every bit of it.
- Jesse Stay
Robert, really??? I don't remember hearing that anywhere.
- Jesse Stay
Robert, please quote exactly what from the lesson plan you disagree with, instead of making hyperbolic and purposely inflammatory statements. I mean, if you've read the document.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
Actually, Robert is pretty much correct, but I think it's just a poor choice of wording, really: http://www.docstoc.com/docs... "Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals."
- Otto
Thanks Jesse. I find it's better not to assume what people mean- especially when it's on a monitor.
- metalerik
My (at the time 14-year-old) son argued porn and censorship with a FCC Commissioner and people are up in arms that the President is talking with their kids? This country is just so idiotic sometimes. I guess they forgot what the last President was doing on 9/11. That is right, talking with school kids. Sigh.
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Amen, Mr. Scoble, Amen.
- Michael
It amazes at all of the lows people do to bring the President down. It's rather pathetic.
- Minu Nianda
Heaven forbid anyone just step back and thinks people could be up to a couple good things, good grief.
- Chris
Sadly, I think that (general) America has forgotten that every society before us has crumbled, be it from war, poverty, starvation, political dispute every society has fallen. It's just a ticker now as to when we follow suit.
- Adam
Please. I have no problem with our President talking to our kids. As long as I'm in the room as well in order to call his BS. No matter who the President is at the time.
- Chris Kalaboukis
completely different - bush was reading to students - not pitching his agenda. read the paper the dept of education sent to the schools. and you liberals forget the last time a president spoke to school kids was in 91 when Bush Sr talked about staying off of drugs - and you liberals screamed and yelled that it was inappropriate. now its ok. i love the liberal hypocrisy.
- Tony Kanzia
Chris: you sir are an idiot. You can do that at home.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Typical liberal - if you don't agree with them, then you're an idiot. What a shocking response.
- Tony Kanzia
I took my son to see a Whitehouse and President I despised.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Chris, you think teachers are any less fallible? Do you accompany your children to school and sit with them throughout the day to call BS on things a teacher might say as well?
- Andru Edwards
This is all so ridiculous. If you don't agree with what he's saying, teach them to be proud of that opportunity, teach them to listen to their President, and then talk to them about the things you don't agree with when they get home. Don't conservatives believe in family values any more?
- Jesse Stay
Tony: I live this stuff. Have you taken your son to see a President you didn't like? I have.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Chris & Tony, thanks for being on hand to demonstrate the exact kind of intolerance that Robert is talking about.
- Jeff Harbert
what i think got everyone up in arms was the curriuculm that went along w/ the president's speech. while this has since been taken down, people feel they are being told from the government what to teach their kids
- Jonathan Jesse
E Pluribus Unum - "Out of one, many". Once the President is chosen, we all have to unite. We don't have to agree, but he is still the representative of this nation and we should respect, and be proud of that.
- Jesse Stay
Tony how is Obama pitching his agenda to kids when he's simply telling them to stay in school? Give me a break.
- Minu Nianda
or that bush sr. talked with school children as did reagan. i suppose it's only ok if repubs do it (shocker).
- Kayce Maisel
I find it even more fantastic that parents don't think their kids can think for themselves.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Teaching our kids not to respect the President takes away that unity. If we don't agree, we should instead be sharing what we don't agree with, not removing the opportunity altogether. This is ridiculous! (note that I was saying the same thing to things the liberals were doing to Bush as well)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse Stay- You hit the "nail on the head" so beautifully!
- earl wallace
Complete idiots are people who think that their kids hearing a few words from ANYBODY are going to hold sway over the impact of their parents, their environment and ability to think freely.
- suecosby
@tony i agree with you on most of the comment. the problem with the speech i had was the accompaning lessons, since removed from the d ept of educations website
- Jonathan Jesse
You know, I just read the speech, and I don't see ANY political agenda in it, much less a liberal one. "And that's what I want to focus on today: the responsibility each of you has for your education. I want to start with the responsibility you have to yourself." Sounds pretty conservative to me. Read it here: http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009...
- John Craft
For those on this thread who are freakin' paranoid about Obama pushing a political agenda on little children, here are his prepared remarks. http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaRe... You can now STFU about it. You're welcome. :)
- Helen Sventitsky
Jesse Stay - Amen!
- Minu Nianda
Jonathan: the "offending" lesson was what could you do to help the President.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@jesse i don't think anyone has said anything about teaching their children to disrespect the president, just that they don't agree w/ what he says
- Jonathan Jesse
Let's all join hands and recite the pledge of allegiance. Come on. I know you want to.
- Sean Montgomery
from iPhone
Jonathan: I disagreed greatly with what Bush did but I still took my son to see him and meet with his Deputy Press Secretary.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Jonathan I see people flat out telling their kids they can't listen to the President. That sounds like disrespect to me.
- Jesse Stay
Maybe school SHOULD be about learning where other people are coming from.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
It is up to parents after school to teach them their own values.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
In Arizona, kids have to get permission slips to listen to the President. That's disrespectful to me.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: it is worse than disrespectful. Where were theywhen Bush spoke to kids?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Jesse: yeah. Gotta have a permission slip to learn.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Let's see, how does it go? I pledge allegience to Robert Scoble...wait that's not it.
- Sean Montgomery
Robert, you're absolutely right... but I can't help but wonder where the promises were from this administration on working across the aisle and having full transparency. I think this administration has provided the fanatical opposition with all the ammunition it needed to take situations like this and blow them up. Once again, I agree that all children should be able to hear the President speak without opposition. I just think this administration is blowing the PR front.
- Douglas Karr
Robert I am giving you a fist bump for this man. Well said!!!!!!!!
- Joe
@robert i think the heart of the problem is what you stated "Parents should teach values" and i don't think that is happening whether political, religious or moral and too many people are relying on the school system to do so.
- Jonathan Jesse
Helen Sventitsky- I just read Obama's speech and I don't think I could have put it any better' I do not detect any undercurrents or subliminal manipulation. I heard the same advice when I graduated from high school.
- earl wallace
"too many people are relying on the school system to do so." - and this is President Obama's fault how? Are you saying that, since the parents aren't doing their job of teaching values, no one should be allowed to talk to their kid about values?
- John Craft
Robert - I'm a conservative but agree with your original point. POTUS should be able to speak to students. You have to acknowledge that if W. had tried to do the same thing (national satellite address) to students, liberals would've been just as outraged as many conservatives are now.
- Paul Goldsmith
Paul: You're flat wrong.
- Jeff Harbert
I think @Paul is correct, FWIW.
- Kurt Starnes
Let's face it - there's a significant portion of this country's population that, if Obama gave a speech about puppies being cute, would launch into an apoplectic rage randomly spewing the words 'liberal' and 'socialist.
- John Craft
Paul: you are wrong. Bush spoke to students and I don't remember anyone so angry.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Yeah...who is he to define cute.
- Sean Montgomery
John Craft: lol
- Minu Nianda
Really? Bush gave a national address to school kids? I honestly did not know that.
- Paul Goldsmith
@robert, Bush 41 spoke to students in '91 and there was opposition from the Dems.
- Kurt Starnes
Kurt: I will take your word on that. That is stupid too.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
This is an amazing opportunity. Until now it simply wasn't possible for a single President to speak to an *entire* nation of school kids. Until now it was only possible to do it in person on a school-by-school basis. When I was growing up it was an extreme privilege to have the President visit your school. We should be embracing that! I don't care if you agree with Politics or not.
- Jesse Stay
Kurt: so, where will we be in eight years?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Kurt: will we have a better country where kids are encouraged to learn and think critically or are they going to learn that politics is like sports?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Double fist bump Robert.
- Joe
There was opposition from Dems in '91, but there was no ranting and raving that Bush Sr was going to indoctrinate school kids.
- Rene Wirtz
@Robert Watched a great documentary on text books and our kids are NOT encouraged to learn and think critically. They are misguided. That's one of the key downfalls with our education system... which is controlled by people trying to indoctrinate their own beliefs and avoid criticism from any extremes.
- Douglas Karr
It's funny I've been so inured by the idiocy, venom & deception coming from the White House for the past 8 years I have a hard time even grokking there are people who don't view the new guy as a massive breath of transparent, humanistic fresh air. And also that a US president talking to our kids could be a bad thing. Altho the guys in this thread who disagree may not be idiots, generously I would at least characterize them as "Fox-addled".
- Thom Kennon
@Robert - I'm with you on those thoughts re kids learning to think critically. I may not agree with Obama on many things, but I would encourage my Daughter (almost 11 y.o.) to listen to any of his speeches. I do think there is some hypocrisy on this school speech issue, though. FWIW.
- Kurt Starnes
Just for the record, I think it's awesome that the President has the opportunity for a national address to students. Great opportunity for the President and children alike.
- Douglas Karr
1991: "The Department of Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the president, it should be helping us to produce smarter students," the New York Times quoted House Majority Leader Richard A. Gephardt (D-Mo.). "And the president should be doing more about education than saying, 'Lights, camera, action.'" Decent article on the history of these school speeches here: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs...
- Kurt Starnes
@Thom transparent? Like the close-door, one-sided bills that have been rammed through? Stop watching Fox OR MSNBC. Start reading http://factcheck.org/
- Douglas Karr
BTW, I wasn't following the Bush 41 school speech in '91, but would think the opposition to Obama is very likely much more heated than it was for Bush 41.
- Kurt Starnes
Kurt: OK. So where will we be in eight years? Will your guy speak to school kids?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Robert - I don't have a guy or a party that represents me (See Jesse's sentiments). :-\ In an ideal world, Presidents would speak to kids apolitically and all parents would support such speeches. And I would ride off into the rainbow on my white unicorn.
- Kurt Starnes
@Kurt @Robert Everyone should have the right to speak and be heard... what are we teaching our children through censorship of our very own President? Regardless of whether or not his speech is political, it should not be fought. He is OUR President and OUR childrens' President. PS: Robert... don't you mean in 3 1/2 years? ;)
- Douglas Karr
I just had to laugh at the person who said Obama was transparent. Wow. Don't read much do you? Obama just made sure 8 months of Presidential White House visits will remain secret. How about those meetings with drug companies, huh?
- Spencer
@Douglas - I generally agree with you. But, just as Obama has the right to give the speech, folks have the right not to listen, even though I think all should listen. Some conservatives seem to have missed the point that neither schools nor the WH require *mandatory* viewing! Folks still have a choice and this, to me, makes all of the protestations seem so silly.
- Kurt Starnes
Scoble++ I wish I could fave this post.
- Tanath
@Kurt we agree... and I also don't fall for the rainbows and unicorns.
- Douglas Karr
In fairness, I think the ONLY real objections were over the slip that the president wanted children to tell him how they were going to help him. Most people don't like the idea of indoctrinating children. They didn't want their child coming home to harass them about why healthcare reform wouldn't pass, etc. This might be a paranoid nutter fear, but for all the political manipulation many parents are used to via their children. My children are constantly bringing home political notes about taxes, funding.
- Jason Nunnelley
This whole debate is sorta silly. If you don't want your children indoctrinated, then listen what the man has to say then give them your opinion -- teach them the value of free speech which is to let all ideas out into the world and let the good ones stand. Taking your kid to the White House to se a President you hate? Makes perfect sense to me.
- Dean Rodgers
Wait a second don't we spend years indoctrinating our kids on everything from how to eat properly to what sports team to follow? I guess it's just other people's indoctrination we don't want them exposed to? ;)
- Eoghann Irving
Eoghann Irving, duh. :)
- Jason Nunnelley
Eoghann, // I AM NOT COMPARING THE PRESIDENT TO THE KKK // But, how would you feel about your child attending a meeting where they taught that certain races were immoral, corrupt or otherwise less worthy. Sure, you could just explain that the bigot they listened to was wrong. But, children are impressionable. That's exactly why we work to brainwash... ahem, excuse me, train them young about things like pollution, recycling, civic responsibilities, etc. It's why schools have them to recite the pledge.
- Jason Nunnelley
For the record, I'm looking forward to my children listening to the president. It will make for good dinner conversation.
- Jason Nunnelley
My point is that sending someone to school and then complaining because they might be "indoctrinated" is a ludicrous position. Of course they will be indoctrinated. That's why we're sending them there! The objections to Obama's speech that I have seen are entirely party political and not motivated by any real concern for social or moral damage.
- Eoghann Irving
Jason, FWIW I did attend a meeting that told me exactly that when I was about 11 at a local baptist church. There was a book and tape burning afterward. My mother was mortified when she came to pick me and my sister (9) up. Neither my sister nor I was 'impressionable' enough to take what we were told at face value, and we had a very lengthy conversation with my mom about what we thought...
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- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
@Jason: you hit on something crucial. There's a lot of white folk (especially here in the South) that do not want the president to talk to school kids, because it may just empower black kids.
- Rene Wirtz
Eoghann Irving, well sorry. I reserve the right to choose what indoctrination I subject my children to and I don't much care whether others think I'm backward or ignorant for reserving that right as a parent. I consider one's refusal to exercise that right cowardly. Even allowing my child to attend public school, and attend the Obama presentation is a decision that is mine to make. I won't whine or complain. I'll take physical action to stop people from doing anything to my child I don't like.
- Jason Nunnelley
Tina, I can't defend the position taken by a minority of paranoid parents that their children shouldn't be exposed to the president's presentation. But, I do defend their right to be notified and that decision belongs to the parent. I think withholding your child's attendance is a poor decision. But, I think the suggestion that parents don't have the right to direct their children's education and experiences in childhood is unacceptable in a "free" society. I determine who trains my child, nobody else.
- Jason Nunnelley
Jason Nunelley, I'm curious where you think I said that you didn't have the right to raise your children any way you see fit. Or that it was ignorant or backward to reserve that right. I don't think I made either statement. My point remains that this isn't about any real concern for the welfare of the children. It's a politically motivated stunt.
- Eoghann Irving
Eoghann Irving, you said "sending someone to school and then complaining because they might be 'indoctrinated' is a ludicrous position." That statement indicated to me that you think taking action to limit said indoctrination is likewise ludicrous. The rest of my statement wasn't aimed at you personally or your comments but more the generic conversation. There are lots of people openly calling concerned parents racist and stupid for even suggesting that the curriculum shouldn't be political.
- Jason Nunnelley
What I'm trying (and perhaps failing) to argue is for people to give the real reason they are pulling their children from school. It's not because they're "being indoctrinated" which is a vague phrase that has negative connotations which makes it hard to argue against. It's because of something specific. And the reason they're not giving a clear reason is that it isn't really about the...
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- Eoghann Irving
Rene Wirtz, this is a major disconnect between reality and perception. People who don't like Obama's tactics aren't all racists. They're not fearful that black children will see his example and obtain an education, get a better job, etc. They're fearful that Obama's policies will usher in big Orwellian government. I'm hopeful that Obama will inspire black students. But, I don't want his legislation to pass. I'm also southern, but that doesn't mean I'm a bigot.
- Jason Nunnelley
jason totally onboard with your statement, though i know it will get me some less than lovely responses. i definitely do not want Obama's policies to to become embedded because I think they are the wrong ones, not because I want to see him personally fail. I think the best chance for the country to succeed is if his policies sputter
- Zachary Adam Cohen
Eoghann Irving, I agree with you. The Republican "protect the children" spin is disgusting. But, I disagree with you on this idea that none of the parents are sincere. A significant number of parents don't like having their children used as pawns. I tire of it in my redneck, backwoods southern town (so you can all assume it's because I'm a racist :). My local school pulls this crap...
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- Jason Nunnelley
Though I consider the reaction these parents have to be bad. I respect a parent's right to opt out of a political stunt. Do I consider the firestorm the Republicans are fanning a political stunt? Of course. But, I don't automatically assume the parents are insincere, or racists. My kids are enjoying logical discussions on why some of the president's desires are noble and some are less so.
- Jason Nunnelley
@Jason: I wasn't calling you a bigot, far from it. But I can see and hear from my relatives there is a deep seeded mistrust. And it is doubly so, because Obama is black and because he is a "socialist", two things that are not very popular amongst the mostly Republican voter base. I do want him to go a progressive course, but to call Obama's political course socialist is laughable at best.
- Rene Wirtz
Rene Wirtz, I knew you weren't calling me a bigot. It's the southern comment I'm chastising. Since we're both in the south, I think we should be careful not to further feed this idea that southern people are bigots. It's just not true, at least no more so that Californians or New Yorkers. If J.C. Watts had run and won the presidency, these same relatives would love him. It's not a fear...
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- Jason Nunnelley
I think we need a "back to school" czar.
- Spencer
I straight up asked my daughter what she wanted to do and her response was "I'd rather do something else". But how about this - I respect the president's right as president to address children in the public school system, why can't MY right to not have my 7 year old daughter listen to it regardless of message be respected?
- Michael Koby
@Michael - Good point.
- Kurt Starnes
@Scott - You think they're nutty, they think you're nutty. Ain't America grand? :-)
- Kurt Starnes
Isn't it interesting how the "left-leaning" commenters cometely ignore the fact that it's the Dept. of Education lesson plan that people were upset about.
- Robert Hafer
from iPhone
Robert: I didn't ignore that and I'm left-leaning.
- Robert Scoble
Scott, in fairness I think you know they changed it due to public feedback.
- Jason Nunnelley
It might be more worthwhile to have Al Franken teach them how to draw a map of the United States.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
does anybody think that, independent of what obama is going to talk about, it's not the president's job to address the nation's kids and this is not appropriate for thim to do in a free country? http://masstrovato.tumblr.com/post...
- masstrovato
How do you get from people being upset with a lesson that insructs children to write an essay on how they can help spread the President's message to them being racist?
- Robert Hafer
from iPhone
Scott, (answering q1) Bill Ayers, though people may argue Obama didn't actually associate with him. Jeremiah Wright, though people will argue Obama attended church for twenty years and didn't fully understand the lessons Mr. Wright preached. Obama's nominee for Green Czar, Van Jones, though I realize people will claim that nominating someone to a cabinet position doesn't mean they agree politically.
- Jason Nunnelley
Scott, I sincerely appreciated Mr. Wright's willingness to be honest about his message. While Obama tried to pretend he didn't understand that message, or that the preacher didn't mean what he said, Mr. Wright had the courage to say that Obama had no choice but to disassociate himself from that message but that he stood by his statements. I don't like Mr. Wright's message, but respect that he has the guts to say it and stand by it.
- Jason Nunnelley
Scott (answering Q2) Originally, the president intended to ask students to participate in an exercise to describe how they would help the president. I view this as relatively innocent, but some do not. That has been changed in reaction to public response. Now, though I find it innocent, I don't like it. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...
- Jason Nunnelley
Scott, I don't have a problem with his present version. But, pretending people are reacting to the version out now and ignoring the history that brought this controversy to most people's attention ignores the true motivations. I'm just suggesting you should consider the reality that your link isn't the source of the controversy.
- Jason Nunnelley
I think kids in all 57 states should have the opportunity to hear him speak if their parents don't object.
- motownmutt
I had forgotten what Bush was doing that day. That is a great point. If I remember correctly, wasn't the book he was reading to the kids upside down? Or is that an urban myth?
- Mike Kirkeberg
Agreed. Robert. Kids today are more evironmentally concious, know whats right and wrong and better perspectives of life, bring on anypne who wants to talk to them, there is no guarantee that they will listen as they are independent :)
- Shashi Bellamkonda
The reaction to Obama's original plan is not in a vacuum. The movement to recruit children and young adults into new nationalist organizations concerns some people. It's not so much right-ring Republican types, but more the anti-government types. Pretending this is a flame alone in a desert isn't intellectually honest. http://www.youtube.com/watch... http://www.youtube.com/watch... << The rhetoric that spikes the concern.
- Jason Nunnelley
Your son sounds like a genius. You sound like a liberal elitist. Sometimes liberals are so annoying. Sigh.
- practicehacker
Thanks for the links, Jason. I knew some Norwegians who I believe served one year mandatory military service. I thought it served them well.
- motownmutt
This administration is serious about engaging young people in quasi-military service. Its cabinet members talked about it openly during the campaign. You can pretend that didn't have an emotional impact, but that's just hiding your eyes to reality. That rhetoric set the stage for the sensitivity you see today over something as innocent as the president encouraging students, even to...
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- Jason Nunnelley
hi Robert, wish you can have a look at this: http://reader2twitter.appspot.com
- kang
the President is not just talking 2 kids, he wanna the kids to be tech wizards I hear? I wouldn't mind Prez chatting with kids but talk 2 what they wanna @ least
- polou/indigo_bow
polou/indigo_bow, you might want to actually read the speech before assuming anything.
- Jeff P. Henderson
my thoughts exactly
- Wardell Latham
sometimes? I do believe 95 percent of the time
- Braden Douglass
Interesting in consideration (if it's not already been linked here) http://friendfeed.com/kregger...
- Jason Nunnelley
We should print up threads like this and share them with our kids. Let em see how people with opinions and passions discuss stuff. Good practice for filtering out Presidents --- and teachers, and parents, and professors and cops and newscasters and Jon Stewart and Rush and the deli guy and ...
- Thom Kennon
Jason Nunnelley, Seems that just further backs up my argument that this is a politically motivated and cultivated hysteria. Doesn't surprise me that it's been tried before.
- Eoghann Irving
Eoghann Irving, I live in a bedroom community in rural Alabama. We're a 70% Republican community. I've not heard a single parent complain about the presentation - not one. The only thing I've heard is reports that the original message contained a curious question from the president to the students, and the president (being much better a man than his political activist supporters) removed it to avoid the conflict. There is no [widespread] fear about Obama's presentation to students.
- Jason Nunnelley
Eoghann Irving, this idea that there's widespread panic over the president addressing students is akin to Sarah Palin claiming David Letterman joked about someone raping her daughter. It's a stunt. But, that's different from the hand full of people that have legitimate concerns about this administration's "statist" tendencies. And, I continue to encourage people to avoid dismissing...
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- Jason Nunnelley
citing Bush talking to school kids on 9/11 is not the best evidence that it's a good idea. Sigh
- Michael Markman
Wow, @scobleizer fail on this one! http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion... Democrats wigged out so bad, they even had an investigation of Bush's speech to a single classroom! I still think you're right - it's idiotic to get all up in arms. But looks like (as usual) both sides are just as guilty.
- Douglas Karr
It's Pathetic* The Repubes + Brainwashed Flock have shown Time + Time again that it's Their Way or the Highway - they don't even want People to THINK!! Scary + Frightening Poop*
- Billy Warhol
My childrens' school didn't run the speech today. I am so embarrassed. I completely missed this one. Since I don't listen to hate radio or watch the news, I thought I was up to speed based on the more cerebral conversations on this topic. I thought the whole controversy was already squashed when the president dropped the assignment "what can you do to help me," which I thought was...
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- Jason Nunnelley
I'm back to my original reaction to the vitriol on both sides of this conversation. Politics is for suckers.
- Jason Nunnelley
When I first heard that people were up in arms about the President speaking to school children... I thought maybe I had fallen into prolonged sleep and was not aware that Hitler was at the head of state again. Plz people. Can we get to what the REAL issue is at hand... and I don't like to play that card ... but sometime it's just too obvious when THE CARD is being played from the other side.
- Jim Turner
What is at stake here is not the fact that the President wanted to speak to the kids--that is good. The issue was that it was framed as how we can help the President (hint, hint--his agenda)--and that my liberal friends is what the commotion is about. Obama is about the most disingenuous President I have seen in all my years of closely watching politics. He had the audacity to say that...
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- Sean O'Reilly
Interesting perspective: Why We Need the Red Dragon: The Energy Revolution Needs China’s Resource Investments http://www.getreallist.com/why-we-...
Proof that Google is racist.
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holy shit...
- Rafael
Uh.. WHOA!
- Linda Lorie
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the people at Google put this in there on purpose.
- Akiva Moskovitz
lol - conspiracy!
- Jesse Stay
They may want to add an exception for that, though. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Oh... My...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
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are u serious thomas? wtf?
- teymur madjderey
annoying popup, but... http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-bi...
- motownmutt
If you're banking on Google to recover your car after a grand thief auto, you might want to try other resources. Bing?
- Micah Wittman
Me and my family just picked ourselves up off the floor and dried our eyes after ROFL'ing profusely at this...
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
LOL! <sarcasm>I am going to go talk to the Race Czar's about this immediately!</sarcasm>
- EricaJoy
if you search for "blakc peolpestole my car" you can see the same result.. just change for the correct one and take a print screen... hahaha this is hell funny
- Rafael
FAIL!
- Wayne Sutton
huh...I tried both and neither gave a 'did you mean....' Why the difference?
- George Gray
George, this was from earlier. I think it's probably been fixed by now.
- Thomas Hawk
I can't reproduce the results either. Even more proof that Google's damage control department works real f-a-s-t
- BLOGBloke
I can reproduce these results (as it's fake). 1 - Do a google search for 'balck people stole my car' 2 - when the results come back, in the search box type 'white people stole my car'. 3 - Screenshot and fool everyone.
- Will Higgins™
Thomas...ah...I was catching up on my feed and didn't notice when the message posted. Still, I have noticed different results when using Google from: the browser search bar, going right to google.com and when logged into google via iGoogle. Weird.
- George Gray
This just made my evening.
- © b e e n s w a n k
This reminds me of how commercials for home alarm systems always feature white criminals.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva - As not to offend us colored folk. ;-)
- © b e e n s w a n k
Dude, you win 1000 times over for use of the word 'colored'. I'm about as far from a racist as you can get but that shit cracks me up every time.
- Akiva Moskovitz
The term 'biatch' always cracks me up - in any context.
- © b e e n s w a n k
これはひどい
- as365n2
Really sooo bad..
- FFTornado
i think that google isnt racist, but people that use it yes..infact google shows firstly the most popular results.....this is my opinion..and please apologize me formy english..i'm italian!w La pizza!
- Lyssa
they did it as the Chinese government did.
- xiawinter
seems they fix it somehow.
- Mike
Lyssa's right. Google is a mirror.
- Jim Hearts FF
*Now* "white people stole my car" beats "black people stole my car" in a Google Duel, 3:1
- Tim Tyler
Ouch. Well, i agree.
- Zachary TG
I sense a really nasty meme being created :-(
- Ian D. Nock
That's it, I'm going to Ask.com! lol
- Bryan R. Adams
paranoid approaches.
- Tolga Akmazoglu
I posted that a couple days ago and someone debunked it almost immediately.
- Ben Hanten
再現できないが.....
- jz0f
The Chinese did it.
- Kittyburgers
google is funny! i stole the car
- HansVanRock
http://twitpic.com/f55tq - Well there goes my evening.
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Settled on the 13" MBP a few nights ago. Already falling in love.
- Jared Smith
you'll love it!
- Chrys
BBQ, BBQ, BBQ: September's a great month for 'cue events in South Carolina | TheDigitel.com - http://thedigitel.com/septemb...
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Yep that's me at CREATEsouth. Chrys Rynearson rocked a great photo.
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The fall BBQ season is upon us. I can't wait!
- Andre Pope
Oh yeah, I had to use that photo, love it.
- Chrys
I left Twitter for Jaiku. Then Jaiku left me for Google. I moved in with Pownce but it died. I went back to Twitter, but flirted with Plurk, Identica, and Rejaw, and even tried doing it myself with Laconica but it was Twitter I really loved. Twitter finally broke my heart so I left it for Friendfeed. Now Friendfeed is leaving me for Facebook. No...
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It's like the internet version of Days of Our Lives
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Haha. ROFL
- Roberto Bonini
is friendfeed going anywhere or will it just get better?
- Craig Shipp
I'm with you Leo.
- Oracio
It reads better than Soap - my roadmap is very similar but I'll forgive FF and live happily ever after with it (for the time being, anyway)
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
from iPhone
You're the best Leo. Canadians are the funniest people.
- Dan Lessard
I'm betting they'll slowly digest it into the Facebook news feed. They claim that Friendfeed is staying put for now, but that won't last.
- Ken Bauer
And we keep following Leo all over the place!
- Robert Scoble
Long live Leo
- Randy Pollock
When will we all get in a long term relationship and stop getting our hearts broken?
- Nate Pilling
so what is more important, the medium or the people, hope that FF will let us export our content, and our social netork :) (in my wild dreams)
- abdellah
Need ice cream? I'm new to FF, and kind of sad I didn't jump on the proverbial wagon sooner!
- Elizabeth K. Barone
I hope you leave your standard breadcrumbs so we can find you in the next chapter of social interaction.
- jcunwired
Feels to me like maybe it's time to go back to building a distributed network, rather than hopping from service to service.
- Ken Sheppardson
But where to next? That's the question. Wave sounds great, but the implementation will be a PAIN. So where? Oh LeoMoses...where is our path in the desert?
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Sounds like a hurtin' country song in the making.
- Bill Rodman
The wave of the future is wave
- Randy Pollock
Well you can't say that what is happening in the 'social sphere' is boring by any means!
- Matt Cassem
I think Leo's audience is more likely to click "Like" or "comment" than Scoble's is. When Leo and Rob are both posting on FF, Leo gets more likes and comments
- Mark
Didn't you leave a post earlier saying how funny it was that people complain anytime there's a change (referring to the FF buyout)? This sounds like a complaint to me.
- Fleagle
Not complaining - just thinking about the future. I think a little Friendfeed DNA will vastly improve Facebook. And I think Facebook is already the big winner with the general populace. I also think we geeks need a corner somewhere else to hang out in.
- Leo Laporte
And I have no plans to leave Friendfeed. Yet.
- Leo Laporte
Yet being the operative word.....
- Roberto Bonini
sounds like a country song to me
- gavin
As for this geeky alternative, http://a.tinythread.com/ just showed up in my feed this morning. Thoughts?
- Craig B.
I feel more of a personal connection with the FriendFeed team than I have with other services I've left, and that will be a big part of why I will stay as long as possible.
- Louis Gray
^^^ replace "team" with "community" and there's my reason for sticking it out.
- jcunwired
Its also going to take a very long time to go through content and bookmark/store it elsewhere. Evernote is going to be used heavily in the weeks to come.
- jcunwired
The only way to have control is to use your own URL
- Craig Shipp
Wait till you meet Facebook's randy cousin Overly Friendly Book =)
- Cynthia Yildirim
what Louis gray said. I'm going to hang around until the lights go out.
- Jordan Brock
from BuddyFeed
What they said, I don't see any reason to leave FriendFeed unless something actually changes that makes the service worthless to me.
- Craig B.
yup me too Louis and I don't know any of them
- Thomas Power
Plurk's not worth leaving anyone for.
- Rachel R.
Leo, I think you need to change your FaceFeed status to "It's Complicated" ;)
- Daynah
Play this thread off, keyboard cat.
- Fleagle
You have to go back to your blog. It still loves you Leo.
- Dave Winer
Screw you, Friendfeed!
- Andrew Leahey
Users today are investors too - only the 'exit' for us is not lucrative.... its the other way sometimes :)
- Mrinal Desai
I just had the idea: wow, how good will Faceboook become though this input? (JUST imagine tagging ppl in FB the way U can Tag them in FF.)
- oliver gassner
Love Stinks.
- shelter watch
I'm quite surprised that you could keep track of all that!
- Robert Alex
Leo Laporte listed his relationship as: "its complicated."
- Randy Shapiro
Damn thats complicated
- drmacintosh
Don't worry Leo, its not you, its them...
- Steven McGurn
so where do we go now?
- Brian Appleby
I agree with Jonathan Hardesty "It's like the internet version of Days of Our Lives" - And sites keep getting killed off only to come back to life a month later!
- Amy Flynn
very true, however on the other hand, we are getting closer to that one service which everyone will be on... and I dont think twitter is going to be that one
- Bryce Campbell
Facebook buying FriendFeed is like having to MOVE just when you got your house all dressed up and made into a comfy HOME! I don't feel like doing it again!
- Arleen Anderson
Now that Facebook and Friendfeed have married, I'm waiting for Twitfacefeedplebospacening.
- Anthony Marco
You all just have ants in your pants :)
- Jeunelle Foster
Leo, u by your self made two companies (services) out of 3 famous and made Google interested enough to buy 2 of them (Jaiku & FF). Google also tried to flirt with Twitter as well. So which one u choose now? Cause we will follow u :P
- Sam Ehsan
Sounds like some of my past love affairs. Of course, I'm married now. That, um, was prior.
- Paul Chaney
lmfao, its so true leo, so true!
- Derek Bender
Feeling a bit worn around the edges? ... me too!
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
Speaking of Days Of Our Lives: Didn't that show jump the shark when the serial killer was unmasked as Marlena (a character I used to have a mad crush on, and who's now mostly a professional victim)? Then all the "killed" characters came back to life, since they were only what I call "soap opera dead"...
- Dennis Jernberg
And if everyone follows you, then your all having affairs all over the place! LOL
- Sandra Large
I think it's back to the TWiT Army!
- Paul Salzman
It's not like we have proposed Healthcare reform, or anything really important, going on in the U.S.A.
- Steve de Mena
it's getting ridiculous, FEDERATED is the word!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
who is actually leaving FF? have many people vowed to do so yet? I'd like to but there isn't any alternative.
- Denise Young
the joys and sorrows of everyday social IT folks... :-)
- Thomas Lee
People are talking a lot about Streamy today. Might be an alternative.
- Caio Cesar
Streamy seems to be crashing left & right tho.
- Rick Cogley
Not to mention Pownce was shutdown as soon as it got good!
- Kenneth Reitz
No mention of Microsoft Vine?
- Robert MacEwan
yep. welcome to another episode of; As the Stomach Turns. one big soap opera.
- Scratch5150
I've decided I'm not going to tell ANYONE which site I'm favoring... not even myself! I swear! As soon as I decided that FF was my new place (a couple months ago) THIS happens! It's like magic, but in a bad bad way...
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Why do we all assume this is a bad thing? Maybe the FF Facebook combo will be better??
- Craig Shipp
Maybe they'll keep both open -- FF is the open side, and FB is the closed side.
- John Flinchbaugh
from IM
Social Networks are sluts?
- TheDiva Rockin
It sure is.
- Jason Hill
I know exactly how you feel. What's a person to do? I am mad at Twitter for suspending some of my accounts. First, the accounts kept causing the password to reset, then they were suspended, all around the time of the DOS attacks. All I ever used Twitter for was to advertise my businesses, and for fun. Now I don't know where to go.
- DogPatch
Here's some thoughts on what's going to happen:http://kennethreitz.com/blog...
- Kenneth Reitz
It's like my beloved Archie comics romantic twists from childhood! Archie loves Veronica who loves Reggie who loves Betty who loves Archie... ;)
- Shawn Zehnder Lea
More like "As the worm churns"
- Houseofmax
한글 와서~ 루거 .. 당신은 정말 잘 생기고있다 누드 사진 기다리다 :]
- HealingBrush
One of the funniest sad stories I've heard in a long time...
- Aviva Gabriel
Gotta find one who is a lady in public and a whore in the bedroom. One who looks like a woman, but thinks like a man. One who tells you you're the only person in their world and worships the ground you walk on. One who's from Venus but want's to live on Mars. One who you know will always be there even when the chips are down. One who looks like a movie star, but doesn't bust the credit...
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- Jan Simmonds
I think a lot of people LOVE to think negatively and don't want to think positively. They think FB is BAD and will ruin FF, but I think if they do it well, FB won't be the bad guy. I think most people who are irked about this are irked because they think the FFers "sold out" to the "man".
- Mol, Santa Claws
@Mollyanna - I disagree. I am irked because the future of FF is completely uncertain. It's more likely that FB will let FF flounder and close it down than it is that FB will invest time and resources in maintaining and enhancing FF. FB has other interests and is splitting up the FF dev team. That does not bode well for FF. I don't begrudge the FF devs for taking the money. I would be...
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- Lindsay
Leo, I hope you mention FriendFeed in your Dubai TED talk ! :) I'll try to be there !
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
@Jan You're an asshat.
- Ian Wright
from BuddyFeed
leo, check out Streamy.com. I'm actually commenting to friendfeed from there right now...you may like it better.
- Casey Petersen
looooool =))
- ★amin.m★
Haiku Laporte
- Outsanity
that was cute! :O)
- Jeanne
@ian - "Wordsmith. Public relations undergraduate at The University of Texas. Feminist Capitalist. WordPress geek. Future commercial rights attorney"...surely that kind of asinine comment is beneath you!
- Jan Simmonds
Maybe they're just not that into you.
- Elizabeth Johnson
Wait... who's on first?
- Michael Rosenau
Logged in to suggest that many of us have tridden a similar path, but a lot of people have beaten me to it! I miss Pownce
- SpionKopRed
wow, Leo. You've got relationship issues!
- Justin Bradshaw
there there, Shawny's here...
- sofarsoShawn
I sense a pattern here.. maybe you always seem to go after web2.0 services that are bent on ditching you :)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
Are You F*cking Kidding Me? (Facebook Song) LIVE - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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LOL
- MB Linder
so awesome
- holly
This is extra funny today. :)
- Stephen Mack
from iPhone
+1 Stephen
- Hutch Carpenter
Flickr = Censorship - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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Based on the above email it would seem that Flores' account was terminated because Flickr alleged that he was hosting photographs that were not his. But Flores tells a different story. When I contacted Flores about this issue he said, "I have been a professional freelance photographer for the last 10 years. All the content/images that were posted in my Flickr photostream were all my work, creation and intellectual property." Furthermore all photos in Flores' stream were watermarked with his own personal copyright information. It is hard for me to see how Flickr could make a mistake of deciding that these photos did not belong to Flores.
- Thomas Hawk
Not cool. Not cool at all!
- ChiliMac
Yahoo should be more careful. they're begging for users to export all their pics somewhere else. xC
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
In response to adoniel's thread on the forum: "Kevin (staff) says: Hello- this is best handled via Help by Email, not the Help Forum. Thanks." DUH-UH!! actually they never answered his emails. After a while their robots will start ignoring you too. ;)
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
I still find it unbelievable in this day and age of blogging, Twitter, FF and instant communication (and distribution) of such poor customer service stories that Flickr/Yahoo continue to hide behind their wall of silence. Any other "brick & mortar" store would have long closed for business (or been sued) with such behavior. At least in a store you can physically speak to someone, and not have these e-mail bots or anonymous CS censors.
- Nils Sandin
This is just ridiculous. Flickr is seriously sucking and is currently making ANY other service look better. ;)
- Travis Koger
Calm down, Andrew. Your service Zooomr isn't exactly the shiniest around. My advice is to put some more time on getting Zooomr back on the road and stop bitching about Flickr all the time. It's getting boring.
- Rutger Blom
@Rutger, do you actually think that this post has anything to do with Zooomr?
- Travis Koger
@Travis, no. did I indicate that? I'm just tired of Andrew picking on Flickr all the time. It's like he is obsessed with it. I think he is out of line especially as he is the CEO of Zooomr.
- Rutger Blom
from email
@Rutger, Censorship and photographer's rights, generally, is an obsession with TH as far as I have seen. I have no problem with him paying out on flickr for this type of activity. It happens too often and something needs to be done about it. As for being CEO of Zooomr, I cannot recall the last time TH actually referred to Zooomr since 'the incident' and when Zooomr moved to Japan.
- Travis Koger
@Travis, what do you really know about those cases where Flickr accounts were being closed more than Andrew's assumptions? Don't you even for a minute consider the possibility that something more is involved?
- Rutger Blom
...and this is why I still associate Andrew with Zooomr: http://www.zooomr.com/about/
- Rutger Blom
@Rutger, I absolutely think about it. I have no problem with flickr enforcing their rules as per their T&Cs and in the cases where it is justified, fully support them... seriously. However from what I have seen, and guaranteed I have not seen it all, the flickr enforcers have done this too many times where it has been in error and their procedures and application functions makes it...
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- Travis Koger
Re the Zooomr about profile, check out the last time that was updated. If TH is still involved in a capacity there, fine. However I am really talking about the last time TH actually pushed Zooomr. I know that pre 'the incident' and the move he was all about flickr sucks, move to Zooomr, but I haven't seen that type of post in a very long time.
- Travis Koger
Rutger, re: Zooomr, it's sort of on autopilot at this point unfortunately. I had much larger plans for it originally as a way for photographers to enter into the stock photography market where the photographers actually got the bulk of the money but Kristopher and I had a difference of opinion about the future direction, he moved to Japan and I haven't talked to him in months. I sent...
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- Thomas Hawk
Not good at all!
- k00pa
By the way, I do think that one thing that the whole Zooomr experience has taught me is how absolute a hold and a monopoly Flickr has on the photosharing community as a whole. For better or for worse, Flickr is it. Because they could care less if they lose customers or not at this point they treat them very poorly. From censorship to deleting accounts to not responding to email...
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- Thomas Hawk
Is there any group on Flickr where this is discussed yet?
- gwendolen
There are lots of protests groups on Flickr gwendolen. They usually just end up mocked by flickr. We usually talk about these cases in DMU every time they come up. Here's the thread on this case there this time: http://www.flickr.com/groups...
- Thomas Hawk
Thanks for the link Thomas.
- gwendolen
Many of these cases also frequently show up in the Flickr Help forum as well, but Flickr usually locks the threads there as fast as they can in order to try and silence those who might be critical. In this case Flores posted in the Help Forum twice and both of the threads he posted in were locked by Flickr Staff.
- Thomas Hawk
I'm physically very far away from Flickr and their staff so I can't say anything about them, but the network in general feels very static and I certainly do not feel that warm welcome family feeling at Flickr as I feel on SmugMug. Flickr feels like an authority you shouldn't mess with. That said, it is the Flickr members that make the service. The social part of Flickr is still unique and can't be found anywhere else.
- Rutger Blom
from email
Troll?? Please go and hide somewhere. I respond in whatever way I want to whatever I want. If that is too upsetting for you block me, "dude". >
- Rutger Blom
from email
@Rutger, when I first read your original post mentioning TH's real name etc, I had the same thoughts as Sean that you were trolling. The fact that you stuck around to discuss changed my mind though, now I just think you have a different point of view. ;)
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
Not trolls but people with own opinions that have the guts to express how they feel and think write like that. That obviously upsets you and some others.
- Rutger Blom
from email
I'm no troll and I'm not trolling. I like and respect the author of this topic. Been following him on many networks for a long time and I'm very impressed by his photography. I got upset when I saw this topic this morning and reacted. That's all.
- Rutger Blom
from email
Who is Andrew?
- Peter
Peter, I'm pretty sure it's this guy: http://bit.ly/h9D6
- James Myatt
http://twitpic.com/c7d3m - I better shave before tomorrow.
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I have a bag of fake mustaches in my office desk drawer. There was a "Hawaiian shirt Friday" thing going on at my work and by adding bushy fake staches it became "Tom Selleck Friday!"
- Dave Slusher
Dave, that's brilliant. Not a terrible idea at all.
- Jared Smith
MLB taps Twitter for live commentary - http://news.cnet.com/8301-27...
Brad McCrorey, Chrys, Laurentiu and 2 other people liked this
"Major League Baseball is now using Twitter in two of its online properties: MLB.tv, and MLB.com. Fans can chime in themselves, or view the 140-character insights of "insiders," which are tweets from each team's official Twitter account or fan blog. Along with being able to post new messages directly from the box, users can get their tweets filtered into the stream using hash tags. These show up alongside the happenings of the game and serve as an alternate commentary to the streaming radio feeds. This is a really neat approach, since it does not require users to remain on MLB's live game sites. Instead, it can tap the commentary of people who are watching or listening to it elsewhere."
- Amani
from Bookmarklet
How to make pulled pork. A classic low and slow. - http://www.instructables.com/id...
Bret Rowe, Mark Essel, Garin Kilpatrick and 16 other people liked this
And you dont even need $1000.00 smoker to do it either :D
- Moved to Facebook
Uhmmm I get so hungry when I read something like that. I did my first ever smoking on July 4th, brisket. I will definitely be trying this.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Now I need a smoker. :-)
- Jesse Stay
You can make pulled pork in a crockpot, if you want to try it before you shell out for a smoker. Andre Pope has a great mopping sauce, if you like NC vinegar based bbq. http://andrepope.com/?p=105
- Heather Solos
I did my brisket in a kettle grill and it worked amazingly well. Indirect heat, nice wet wood chips and temperature control. Now I just need a house not an apartment on the fourth floor with a tiny balcony. Kinda smoked up the house :-P
- Rasmus Lauridsen
<3 pulled pork. Like, a lot. :)
- Derrick
Is that a disco ball smoker? Awesome!
- Ron
Derrick needs to visit SC so he and I can go on a tour of BBQ places.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I second the motion.
- Heather Solos
I have only had one SC BBQ that I liked it was really good. Of course it didnt live up to the northern Alabama BBQ but I would still go see the guy who made it :D
- Moved to Facebook
from fftogo
that smoker looks like the death star. i've sworn off pork until at least sept, unfortunately. sucks for me
- Cee Bee
I need to discuss this with my darling fiance :D (after her current stomach illness ends)
- Mark Essel
On a brighter note, I made a awesome pork butt yesterday. :D
- Moved to Facebook
from fftogo
Will you hire a media firm for social media campaigns that has 3 tweets so far?
Patrizia Filippetti, Scott Herbert, Krista Kerwood and 8 other people liked this
Depends on how long they've been on Twitter and the quality of tweets.
- Ivan Zuzak
Following-followers ratio? Yeah...
- Nate Pilling
I was joking about how everyone is getting on the Twitter bandwagon! Here's their profile: http://twitter.com/Comtech...
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
I can't comment about the quality of that particular company, but I feel the skillset for direct mail, website design, graphic/logo design is different to that required for a social media campaign.
- David Sim
David: Absolutely!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Today @pingv decided to replace our #Drupal-powered Client Support Center with Open Atrium, & port over our add'l features. #opensource
Chrys liked this
If that isn't a recommendation, I don't know what is!
- Chrys
It's close enough to what we had that this does not represent a major disruption. And that's the goal for us: We don't want to spend a lot of time on our own infrastructure. We believe in the Drupal community, and like what we see in Open Atrium.
- Laura Scott (@lauras)
U2 - I’ll Go Crazy If I Don’t Go Crazy Tonight directed by David OReilly #animation #motiongraphics - http://log.ericalba.org/post...
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Oh hallelujah! YouTube Will Be Next To Kiss IE6 Support Goodbye #webdesign #browsers - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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Judging by this screenshot taken by an IE6 user who was watching some videos on YouTube, it appears the Google company will be phasing out support for the browser shortly. I don’t have Internet Explorer 6 installed on my computer, so I can’t verify this first hand, but illogical it seems not and a simple Twitter search shows multiple people confirming the news. Heck, some are even downright ecstatic over the news.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
from Bookmarklet
What!?!? You mean that I won't be able to watch my videos with my Netscape Navigator Gold any more. That is bull shit! If I can still see google with it, every web site should support it.
- Wizetux
LOL
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Although we can all debate about watching Youtube at work, I thought I remembered seeing something that said that IE6 still had a very considerable share of the browser market recently, mainly from corporations that didn't want to bother upgrading to IE7/8. I wonder if this will spur any of them to upgrade. :)
- Bryan Zirkel
That's probably very true Bryan. And it probably won't make a difference since it's hard to present a business case for why you should be allowed to watch Youtube videos at work. :P
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I was about to say the same, Shey ... IE6-bound IT admins will probably rejoice at this news since for all practical purposes YouTube will be blocking itself
- LANjackal
these are situations that call for about 10 like buttons. liking once just isn't sufficient.
- chrisofspades
indeed
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Long live IE6. Wait, no, scratch that.
- Sparky
They should throw in IE7 while they're at it
- Cassidy
@Cassidy Yup
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
One of my Federal govt clients (actually most of my govt clients) have their standard PC images locked down to ONLY include IE6 (security flaws and all). Not to worry, since YouTube is blocked as is most social media.
- derikp
FF is not seeing the growth other services are seeing because it is not designed for the casual, non-technical user the way flickR, Twitter, and Facebook are. An average person can "walk up" to those three services and get them almost immediately. By "get them" I don't mean that they understand deeply/optimally how or why to use them but that they...
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... can readily get their heads around the basic how-and-why. FriendFeed is just too obscure for the average user to grok, and I am not sure that is surmountable.
- Anthony Citrano
and there's more than a little techno-elitism in the idea that the problem is not enough gadgetry... au contraire.. gaze at those navels a little bit more, boys. ;)
- Anthony Citrano
I don't understand why friendfeed is somehow harder to "get" than Twitter. You can do the same stuff here that you can do there. This should be readily apparent. It's a piece of paper...it is what you put on it that matters.
- Alex Scoble
@Alex: whether you understand why or not, it is. If you have access to an *average* computer user, sit them down in front of each and don't say anything. See what happens. Report back. ;)
- Anthony Citrano
same could be said for Twitter. I watched a non-technical friend new to twitter try to figure out URL shortening and twitpic. It took him a while.
- Bill Kinney
I don't think it has anything to do with ease of use. For those that I introduce to both services, they seem more confused by Twitter than FriendFeed. The real reason is far more basic. Twitter is still about ego and vanity while FriendFeed is about sharing and discovery. People don't come to FriendFeed (and the value prop is not such) that you come and tell what you had for lunch. THAT...
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- AJ Kohn
AJ, that's a very interesting take.
- Nick in Manila
@Bill - URL shortening and twitpic are not basic how-and-why of Twitter. Do you really think grokking URL shortening and Twitpic are Twitter 101? They aren't, and if you think they are, I respectfully submit that you too may be suffering from technobubbleitis. @AJ: it sounds like you're talking about the utility - not accessibility - of each service. And if you think FF is not about "me, me, me" then consider yourself blessed for missing out on most of its "recommended users."
- Anthony Citrano
@Anthony: I think the utility creates a perception of accessibility. FriendFeed is just as easy, if not easier, to newbies I've introduced. But the value prop of Twitter is very clear - "what are you doing?". "Oooooh, someone wants to know what I'm doing? I'm eating a mango!" Even without feedback the act of doing this is self-reinforcing. And those little number on the right hand side...
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- AJ Kohn
speaking of context, Tony, how does that relate to the subject at hand? ;-p
- Anthony Citrano
It's not the UI per se. IMHO, the perception of an existing active tight-knit community of users who share and discuss things all day long is a significant psychological barrier for new users to overcome. Similar behavior can be seen on traditional message boards, where it often takes lurkers months or years before they finally register an account and start a Hello I'm new here thread....
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- Aviv
I just saw this comment(tweet) on AJ's twitter stream. "how come I've got 573 "subscriptions" on Friendfeed when I've never signed up to follow anyone? Has to be worst Internet product in history. #" I did get defensive and protective but AJ was so cool in his answer that I just let it go. People are intimidated when something is new and unfamiliar. In most cases someone joins and...
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- Myrna
To me FriendFeed is a cross between Twitter and an forum. I think I spend more time trying to figure out what someone is trying to say in 140 characters than thinking about what they are trying to communicate. Some people would rather be in front of the crowd shouting than in the crowd discussing.
- Keith Beucler
Had another thought recently. Suggested user lists on FF and Twitter are two different animals. People already know celebs use Twitter and expect to see inflated update/follow counts. However, I'd guess this is a far more delicate issue on FF and encouraging new users to subscribe to power-users right away and having them see 5-digit comment/like count stats may be contributing to...
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- Aviv
Keith: "Some people would rather be in front of the crowd shouting than in the crowd discussing." Bingo!
- Myrna
Aviv, yes, it definitely feels more intimidating at first for all the reasons you sited.
- Myrna
Many times on forums, knowledge of older threads or events is required to understand the context of new posts made by the regular members. Again, similar behavior seems to have developed on FF, which is only natural the more users interact with others over time. IMHO it may decrease the likelihood that new users will stick around. Quickly scanning my feed I detect many posts such as:...
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- Aviv
The average user? Are we talking about the folks who wonder why their shortcuts to Word and Excel aren't on their desktops when they logon to someone else's PC? Or are we meaning people who are a little more technologically savvy?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I remember feeling that like, like I had no IRL friends on here and thus intimated to join in with the community (for Facebook this is definitely true, I only joined because of my friends). And as I'm a *very* shy person, to get me to join in with anything anyway is a push at best. I wish I could answer the question, what changed for me but I honestly cannot remember (perhaps one day we...
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- Kol Tregaskes
Aviv, so perhaps if new users were suggested users to subscribe to that were fairly new themselves then that would help? It sounds good but I can't think of how or who to suggest to the new user apart from a random list of new-ish users?
- Kol Tregaskes
It's like starting a new job at the same time as another person, you find you generally bond with them more than other people who have worked at the company for a long time.
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, yes. It's all 'organic growth'. Sometimes its difficult to know how things evolved. I was intimidated to come here because all my friends were on fb or twitter. Karoli showed me something one day here and now she spends more time on twitter bec her friends are comfortable there. She's there and now I'm here.
- Myrna
thats y i like FF. I left twitter when all the lame celebs put it on cnn and daytime tv 24hours. FF is still tech. Twitter is now as cool and cutting edge as VHS and rabbit ears
- echostreamer
32GB CompactFlash card - $62.00 - http://www.buy.com/retail...
Chrys liked this
This is a very good deal for a ton of capacity. (thanks Marmot!)
- Chris Glass
OH: "I am your wife. I am more fun than Twitter."
tomit, Chrys, Kol Tregaskes and 10 other people liked this
That's entirely debatable.
- Mark Trapp
Women want conversation. Twitter doesn't do conversation. Twitter wins.:P
- Kamath (नमः)
I can think of some guys wives who would fail that statement :)
- (jeff)isageek
I'm a wife, I'm definitely not more fun than Twitter. :o(
- Mellissa Claus
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