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Jennifer Love Hewitt Puts Her Sexy Boots On For Ellen - http://www.popoholic.com/2009...
Lysender, Manuj Darshan, Chieze Okoye and 19 other people liked this
"Sexy!"
- AJ Batac
from Bookmarklet
You think she likes ellen?
- anna sauce
So is that the new thing for female Hollywood celebs? Flirt with Ellen? That's fine if they actually mean it, but if they're just doing it for the publicity...
- Jason Huebel
And I'm referring to the little serenade that Jennifer Anniston gave her the other day.
- Jason Huebel
How is flirting with Ellen any different than flirting with Letterman? It's all for business and publicity right? It's all silly show business in my opinion and gender or sexual orientation of the host doesn't really play into it I think. The fact that two women can flirt on daytime TV is pretty cool though.
- pea
+1 Pea
- Kenton
Dont like Ellen but do have a soft spot for Jennifer Love Hewitt.
- Robert Bland
True enough, pea. I have no problem with two women flirting, but you have to admit that same-gender flirting adds an element of provocativeness to the act (not saying it should, mind you). So it just irks me a little that Hollywood exploits that fact. I disapprove of the context in which they're flirting, not the flirting itself.
- Jason Huebel
What's up with the cut of that dress? It looks like it's cut longer in the front like maternity wear...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
@Jason, I suppose it does though we won't get to a point where two women flirting won't be provocotive until it's mainstream and, though we like to rail against it, celebrities often serve to make something mainstream just by the sheer fact that they can draw a crowd. I've always been an equal opportunity flirter so seeing Jennifer flirt with Ellen doesn't even make me blink. But I do...
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- pea
Oh my god!! Hike yer Baby Doll skirt Jen Love!! we're Mowin' da Lawn!!!********** ;PPP Does Ellen have a StriPPer Pole handy???
- Billy Warhol
we are all friend feeders i be c wee
- Gratten
Why do you make me look at this hideous truck-smashed-face corpulent troll? Thank you for the nightmares, anthony! :P
- fn (fairnymph)
Hmmm
- Gratten
Rowr! Not a big JLH fan, but still...
- Fred Yankowski
Copper-Core | All-Clad Metalcrafters - http://www.all-clad.com/collect...
AJ Kohn, Eric @ CSTechcast.com, Alex Scoble and 2 other people liked this
Anyone have these pans? I've read great reviews of them and it's come time for some new cookware. I've also handled them multiple times in a couple stores and they seem serious and solid. Just wondrin'
- Anthony Citrano
I've wanted this cookware line for...8 years? They are the absolute best. It will be my next large purchase. I've used them at friends' houses. They heat extremely evenly and efficiently due to the core but clean up nicely with the SS coating. Very well made.
- fn (fairnymph)
Finally bought a set of these last night; love them. Tried a couple of the pans last night - they rock. Word to wise: do not use high heat with them for two reasons: 1. No need - the conductivity and heat distribution really is that good; 2. you'll get a little bit of discoloration on the steel if they get too hot (which cleaned off easily, but still, FYI.)
- Anthony Citrano
JEALOUS. At least you bought them on my bday. That's appropriate. :D
- fn (fairnymph)
We have the All Clad Stainless line. We love them. Awesomeness.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Nearly anything All Clad is great.
- AJ Kohn
Deadly 19th-Century Vampire-Killer Kit Sells for $14,850 - http://worldofwonder.net/2009... - http://worldofwonder.net/2009...
Kol Tregaskes, T. Brent, technopeasant, CW™ and 14 other people liked this
"Is there anything more collectible at the moment? An authentic vampire-killing kit from the 1800s, which is equipped also for killing werewolves, was sold at the Stevens Auction Company in Aberdeen, Mississippi, on Saturday, October 31. The winning bid of $14,850 was placed by "a pale man in a black cape." The kit contains all you'd ever need to kill (or weaken!) Robert Pattinson and Stephen Moyer: stakes, mirrors, a gun with silver bullets, crosses, a bible, holy water, candles, and garlic, all housed in an American walnut carrying case. "
- RAPatton
from email
Awesome, lol. But ahem, Robert Pattinson would not be killed or weakened by any of the above. ;)
- Araceli
If your having vampire trouble, it's worth every penny.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Wow. That's pretty fucking awesome!
- fn (fairnymph)
No way is that thing authentic.
- s t e v e
Ripley's Believe it Or Not museum on Hollywood Blvd has one of these.
- Jason Toney
Halloween 2009 Pics - http://fairnymph.livejournal.com/295524...
RAPatton liked this
That is a side of you I've never seen before
- RAPatton
Vampires (real blood-drinking ones) FTW.
- fn (fairnymph)
vegan gourmet restaurant in Leipzig
- fn (fairnymph)
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- fn (fairnymph)
Neo-medievalism | Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
“Critics have discussed why medieval themes continue to fascinate audiences in a modern, heavily technological world. A possible explanation is the need for a romanticized historical narrative to clarify the confusing panorama of current political and cultural events.”
- Anthony Citrano
from Bookmarklet
Absolutely agree.
- fn (fairnymph)
Polanski ragers: sexual attraction to adolescents is *not* pedophilia. Please stop using this word unless you know what it means. kthxbai
Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕, Russellreno, Johan Bakken and 6 other people liked this
Who cares? Raping anyone earns jail time. Raping and drugging anyone earns jail time. Raping and drugging a child earns the death penalty. The *last* thing anyone should be quibbling about is the definition of terms. He is *still* a rapist who skipped out on his sentencing. The end.
- Admiral Anika
Anika..Your my hero...seriously, not being funny..You always seem to nail it..No pun intended.
- Bill Heslin
I care. If we don't have words to communicate with, and can't agree on what they mean, or worse yet, dismiss their value, it's a bit hard to converse. If we decide "quibbling" over word meanings is unimportant, then I suppose he's a murderer and a thief, too.
- Anthony Citrano
What Anika said.
- Helen Sventitsky
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse...: "noun: a sexual attraction to young children". So, what, Anthony, you're quibbling over age here? (edited due to an itchy "enter key pinky")
- vicster needs a nap
Yes, Vicster, I am. Isn't that (age) a big part of what makes this so sensational?
- Anthony Citrano
I'm with Anthony. Anika's argument is tantamount to saying that you can't care about something because something far worse is happening. Just because someone cares about one thing doesn't mean that the person doesn't care about the other.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Anthony, I did use the word in my feed today (http://friendfeed.com/zeigen...) although I don't consider myself to be a rager. I'm very calm in my belief he should be extradited to face justice, and in my belief that as he has confessed to raping a 13 year old he is, by definition, a convicted pedophile rapist. Please see...
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- Stephen Mack
Hmmm . . . he stole her virginity and murdered her childhood . . . yes . . .
- Chris Loft
@Stephen: a lot of terms used "in law enforcement" are misleading and wrong, so I don't personally accept that as a barometer of accuracy. The more widely accepted defining line is puberty.
- Anthony Citrano
This is a legal case. That's the legal definition.
- Stephen Mack
@Stephen: no, it isn't. There *is* no legal definition, because it's not illegal to be a pedophile. Pedophilia - like all paraphilias - are defined by psychiatrists.
- Anthony Citrano
Anthony, not to me. What gets to me is that he raped anyone at all. Whether or not his victim was at an age of legal consent, she repeatedly told him no and he repeatedly raped her. He needs to pay for that crime. Full stop. Nothing sensational about that.
- vicster needs a nap
I'm taking wiki at face value, but it cites http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed... as providing a legal definition of pedophile, in accordance with my usage. (And probably not surprisingly, that article itself is about what a wide range of definitions of pedophile there are.) There are legal definitions of all sorts of words (such as "driver"). Can you show me citations where pedophile is only to be used to describe pre-adolescents?
- Stephen Mack
I agree with Anthony. You can't go changing the meaning of words to be more sensational. He raped a 13 year old girl, but if she was postpubescent , it wasn't pedophilia.
- Alex Scrivener
What is your definition of puberty then, Anthony? Is it the onset of menstruation? I got my period when I was 10.
- Mellissa Claus
pedo is from the Greek "paido" meaning child. Isn't a 13 year old a child?
- Stephen Mack
@vicster: i wasn't referring to age of consent; just to the definition of pedophilia. @Stephen: the abstract of that article says: “True pedophiles should be identified by their preference for biological children.” That is exactly the basis for my original comment. Pedophile is one attracted to *children* - i.e. pre-pubescent / pre-adolescent.
- Anthony Citrano
Anthony, that article (I believe) is advocating that the legal definition be changed from the status quo, which defines children by the age of consent, not puberty.
- Stephen Mack
Anyway, my point is that it's not as cut-and-dried as you claim. Reasonable people can disagree, but it's not uncommon or wrong in my opinion to use pedophile to apply to a 13-year-old. I'm open to evidence that I'm wrong but so far I haven't seen any evidence, just opinions.
- Stephen Mack
@Stephen: none of this is cut-and-dried; if it was, it wouldn't be such an interesting conversation. :) I think it just depends on whether one believes adolescents are children. Mother Nature certainly doesn't.
- Anthony Citrano
"Mother Nature certainly doesn't" - not sure I understand?
- Mellissa Claus
@Melly: see our conversation here: http://friendfeed.com/acitran...
- Anthony Citrano
I'll repeat what I said earlier - I got my period when I was 10. But I was definitely still a child.
- Mellissa Claus
Thanks for deleting my comment Anthony. That was really big of you.
- EricaJoy
Before I jump in about the definition of "child" -- Anthony, look at your original post. "Polanski ragers:" -- so you start with a put-down. "sexual attraction to adolescents is *not* pedophilia." You're phrasing this as an absolute, but it doesn't take long in the thread for you to agree with me that it's not cut-and-dried. "Please stop using this word unless you know what it means." I...
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- Stephen Mack
@Erica: first of all, it looked like spam. then, after a closer examination, i realized it was you repeating the same thing 90 times and then implying the rest of us just didn't get it. also, it was off-topic.
- Anthony Citrano
@stephen: we don't agree on the definition of the word; that doesn't obviate my position that these things are not cut-and-dried. For me it (definition of pedophilia) is reasonably clear - but I realize other people have their own definitions. Of course there needs to be a general consensus for a word to "work" - and I think many people abuse this word. Anyway, I was more generally...
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- Anthony Citrano
I'd still like to know if you would classify a menstruating 10-year-old as an adolescent or a child.
- Mellissa Claus
I was saying that nitpicking the definitions behind what happened is pure bikeshedding (in case you're not familiar with the term http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...) to avoid addressing the real issue at hand.
- EricaJoy
from IM
@Erica: nitpicking - like childhood, apparently - is in the eye of the beholder. Further, to say that discussing misleading language avoids the "real issue" implies you are the authority on what the "real issue" is. There are many "real issues" here, and caring about one doesn't mean one can't care about the others. Akiva addressed this earlier in the thread. And this thread is about a "real issue": my belief that the word "pedophile" is widely misused.
- Anthony Citrano
Any healthy male homo sapien will have certain physiological reaction to a viable female homo sapien mate that shows they physiological signs of child bearing capability. It's normal. What makes what Polanski did so sick and perverted is that he denied himself his G-d given right to choose to act like a man and instead chose to act like a predatory animal and stole a young ladie's innocence and scaring her for life. What kind of message does it send to our children if we let any man get away with this?
- David C. Cooper
Anthony do you have any evidence that your usage of the word is more widespread or accepted compared to mine? I know Wikipedia isn't the greatest source, but you have to admit my usage is validated right there at the top.
- Stephen Mack
Stephen, he's just trolling, trying to get attention by (incorrectly) disputing minutiae of HIS interpretation of the English language.
- Glen Mistletoe
How can he troll in his own feed?
- Akiva Moskovitz
And I've never seen Anthony troll before that I can recall.
- Stephen Mack
I think the terms are irrelevant. I do believe that everyone under 18 deserves certain protection from sexual predators. I do think that it should be illegal for a man like Polanski to initiate a sexual relationship with any 13 year old girl. But what he did was even far worse than that. He manipulated this girl, he intoxicated this girl, and he raped this girl. He should spend the rest of his life in prison for that crime.
- Thomas Hawk
If there is grass on the field, play ball. Cliché for a reason.
- fn (fairnymph)
@Stephen: since it's a psychiatric disorder, perhaps the American Psychiatric Association's DSM. The pedophilia entry opens: “The paraphilic focus of Pedophilia involves sexual activity with a prepubescent child.” (Full entry here: http://www.medem.com/...) Thus, according to the APA, a pedophilia diagnosis requires “recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children.”
- Anthony Citrano
I think we are looking for the term Hebephilia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Alex Scrivener
Alex, I'm no expert but that's clearly not the right term. There's no evidence he prefers pubescents to adults.
- Stephen Mack
Paedophilia (get the damn spelling right you lot!!) is attraction to the prepubescent form.. basically, if the person shows obvious bodily changes towards their adult form (hip changes, growth of breasts, hair growth, dropping of testes, pronouncement of the adams apple), then it is no longer paedophilic.. it's not based on age at all but bodily form. Also, childhood ends when puberty...
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- alphaxion
@Akiva - Glen drops into my feed occasionally and hurls personal insults at me. But yeah, I'm trolling my own threads - and he's adding value; enriching us with his abundance of intellect and perspective.
- Anthony Citrano
I think that Glen's a hoot! That's what he is!
- Akiva Moskovitz
if he were a priest and the kid were a 13 yr old boy, what would whoopie be saying? and why the hell did Woody Allen think his support would help? damn we are a crazy country
- lisbethwest
++ alphaxion
- Cristo
--alphaxion. Either spelling is correct. like centre/center
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
actually only paed- is the correct spelling - since it is the original derived from the greek/latin. ped- refers to feet :P (hence pedestrian is not just a walking child ;) )
- alphaxion
Actually, you're wrong that ped- always refers to the foot. A pediatrician is one who practices medicine on children (in the field of pediatrics), whereas a podiatrist (who studies podiatry) is one who practices medicine on the foot. Being a pedant (which doesn't mean one who argues about the foot, FYI) hardly ever entails being right.
- Mark Trapp
It's funny that of all the things that alphaxion said, we're arguing over the spelling.
- Cristo
+50 Cristo
- Anthony Citrano
He's the one who wanted to make a big deal over the spelling: I'm just obliging. The rest of his argument (and the larger argument about the meaning of pedophilia) is so hopelessly obtuse it's not even worth the internet-level pedantic bickering.
- Mark Trapp
So, Mark, intelligently discussing our society's schizophrenia about pubescence, evolutionary psychology, and sexuality is pedantic and obtuse, but a spelling argument isn't? Ugh.
- Anthony Citrano
I think the meaning of words is more important than their spelling. The inflation of terms like terrorism scares me, for example.
- Cristo
No, arguing over the spelling of the word pedophilia is pedantic; trying to make a thinly veiled moral argument based on whether what Polanski did was strictly defined as acting upon pedophilia is obtuse.
- Mark Trapp
They're spelt paediatrics and paediatricians here in the UK.. the original greek is paid- for child, hence its corruption of ai into ae in old english, ped- tends to be for feet and soil. It's only in the US where I have ever encountered the use of ped- to mean "child". Etymologically speaking, the US version makes no sense. And how can the description of what is paedophilic (that of...
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- alphaxion
I didn't see anyone supporting Polanski, just trying to get the meaning of the words right.
- Cristo
You're being annoyingly insensitive to the real issue of Polanski drugging and raping a young girl by clouding the issue with whether or not people are using the word pedophilia in the way you prescribe it to be used; this is above and beyond the amazing lack of understanding of what a natural language is and what it entails. That is, you're being being obtuse.
- Mark Trapp
I've not tried to claim any moral actions of Polanski - I fully think he needs to serve time for the rape he committed, because he did abuse someone we see as being unable to give consent, even if they physically did (which she didn't). But to describe him as a paedophile is entirely wrong, I'd describe him as a disgusting rapist.
- alphaxion
@Mark: I started the thread because I think the word pedophile is misused. I did not start it to discuss Polanski's situation. It was meant to be a tangent - off of the trillions of Polanski threads - because I'd seen the word used (in my view, improperly) in those discussions. It was not at all based on what he did or didn't do; it was based on my perceived misuse of a word. If that's obtuse to you, fine. But I'm rather fascinated by linguistics and feel you've mischaracterized the thread.
- Anthony Citrano
If there is substantial agreement that pedophilia refers to the state of mind Polanski was in when he drugged and raped a 13 year old girl, and people know to what you refer when you call Polanski a pedophile, there's no room for discussion: you'd be wrong to say that using pedophilia to describe Polanski is incorrect. That's the basis for a natural language and its use.
- Mark Trapp
Mark, maybe I'm not understanding your point of view, but it seems like you're trying to shutdown discussion of something because something very bad happened. It's kind of like when that comedian said the terrorists who flew planes into the buildings on 9/11 weren't cowards. I think it's okay to state truths even if you ultimately don't agree (or hate) the subject of a story.
- Cristo
You're not stating or discussing truths: you're clouding the truth with a misguided display of your false mastery of linguistics. Instead of discussing the real issue behind why people are calling Polanski a pedophile, or discussing linguistics in a meaningful manner, you're arguing, without merit, the proper usage of a word the rest of the world has agreed upon describes Polanski's state of mind when he drugged and raped a 13 year old girl.
- Mark Trapp
@Mark: that was all discussed earlier in the thread. I don't buy the theory that "substantial agreement" is adequate if those doing the agreeing are incorrect. According to those I consider solid authorities on the matter (e.g. the American Psychiatric Association - not to mention most therapeutic clinicians) it is not pedophilia, and I'm going to go with them.
- Anthony Citrano
mark: and yet every language also has some structure and rigidity to it. Language will always be a moving target until it dies (just look at the change in meaning of the word gay for example), but there is still nothing wrong with highlighting improper use of a word, even if it has changed. I'll give you another example - ultimate. Say that and many people will think "best", when it actually means "last". Decimate - this has evolved to mean "destroy" when it actually means "to reduce by a tenth".
- alphaxion
You're free to not buy how a natural language works, but you'd be wrong in the same way one could say one doesn't buy the sky is blue. This goes back to my original point and why I focused on the spelling instead of the larger argument: you're being hopelessly obtuse.
- Mark Trapp
Mark, just to try to understand your point of view, are you saying that Polanski settled for a 13-year old girl but really wanted a 9 -year old girl? If he slept with a 17 1/2-year old girl who gave her consent, would that also be pedophilia?
- Cristo
Cristo: I'm saying that there is substantial linguistic agreement that Polanski is a pedophile. Telling people that they're using the word pedophile wrong is neither constructive nor, in fact, correct.
- Mark Trapp
And what is that substantial linguistic agreement exactly?. I'd like to know how to apply the word in the future.
- Cristo
ok, taking your "natural language" argument - are we not following the rules of that very same thing by extolling our own meaning of the word (by using its original meaning), and if enough people change from using it to refer to anyone under 18 to those who are pre-pubescent, are we not just another force in the natural evolution of a language? I mean, it's obvious that there's a good number of us who use it with that meaning already.
- alphaxion
18 isn't even the age of consent in many countries, so apparently the word changes with the laws of the country.
- Cristo
Cristo, I cited the evidence earlier. Legally, in the U.S., the definition of "pedophile" hinges on the age of consent, not the onset of puberty. (Could you imagine the trial judges and lawyers belaboring whether or not a victim has had a period or not?)
- Stephen Mack
@cristo there are many countries where the age of consent is 12/13.. here in the UK it's 16.
- alphaxion
Stephen, I wasn't aware that pedophile was a legal term, and there are different laws for sex with someone younger than 14 in the US I believe, although it might be state by state.
- Cristo
@Stephen: you're repeating this “legal definition” assertion that, as I said earlier, I don't think exists. Regardless of one's definition of the word, it's not illegal to be a pedophile.
- Anthony Citrano
It's not a legal term, but there's legal precedent (cited earlier) that backs up the usage described by the Wiki page: "In law enforcement, the term "pedophile" is generally used to describe those accused or convicted of the sexual abuse of a minor (including both prepubescent children and adolescent minors younger than the local age of consent).[13] An example of this use can be seen...
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- Stephen Mack
Cristo: obviously, the meaning of the word changes depending on the country or context. A natural language is not prescriptive: people agree on the meanings of words based on context. If you know to what you refer, and I know to what you refer, that's all that's needed to establish the word as a name for that which is being referred. When someone calls Polanski a pedophile, most people...
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- Mark Trapp
So I agree there's disagreement, and earlier Anthony has agreed it's not cut-and-dried.
- Stephen Mack
Well, "looking like an asshole" is a subjective point of view, and I see a big difference between someone who sleeps with a 17 year and someone who has sex with a 6-year old. I don't condone either, but the former is just bad judgement and the latter is a perverted sicko.
- Cristo
So how about 13?
- Stephen Mack
13 is around the age most girls start to develop sexually. Some earlier and some later. I suspect some men are attracted to that. Obviously it's highly illegal and should be, but I'm not convinced it's unnatural because nature has provided the ability for childbirth. It's not the same as sex with a child that clearly is not sexually developed, and it also is much worse than meeting someone in a bar and not checking their ID.
- Cristo
@cristo iirc there's a few cases in the UK where a 16 year old boy has been convicted of statutory rape against his 15 year old girlfriend because of the age of consent line.. placing him onto the same sex offenders registry as child rapists etc. @stephen any age below the legal age of consent is technically rape no matter how you slice it (tho I'd like to see some flexibility where the...
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- alphaxion
@Alphax - w/r/t Miley - and in particular her recent pole dance - you missed a similar discussion: http://friendfeed.com/acitran...
- Anthony Citrano
@anthony I'd also point out how similar the body forms are of catwalk models to adolescents (lack of hips, usually small breasts, usually fully shaven and slightly androgynous/tomboyish look)...
- alphaxion
@alpha: really? i hadn't noticed. ;-p
- Anthony Citrano
Catwalk models don't have beards?
- Cristo
@cristo it is wasn't for the ladyshave, they'd be rocking it like ZZTop ;)
- alphaxion
On balance, even though I think I've demonstrated that my usage of "pedophile" was in accordance with general usage and legal usage, I agree with Anthony's DSM evidence and that there should be a distinction. So I'm editing my post from Tuesday. Interesting discussion all, thanks. (OMG, someone on FF changed their mind.) I was very glad to see in this thread that we almost all agreed Polanski was scum who should face justice -- we just disagreed if he was a "scumbag pedophile rapist" vs. a "scumbag rapist."
- Stephen Mack
@stephen aye, whichever way we try to describe it, it was certainly a rape from every possible definition - no consent given, under the age of consent anyway and he wasn't anywhere near an acceptable age range to validate any given consent (which was never given in his case anyway, so moot point for that one).
- alphaxion
According to US law what he did was paedophilia. According to medical definitions it wasn't. Therefore calling it paedophilia is appropriate. You can debate the age of consent laws all you want, but according to the law, as it stands, sex with a minor is the crime of paedophilia whether it was the psychiatric definition of it or not. Psychiatry defines things in human, 'soft'...
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- Glenn Slaven
Glenn, do you have a source for your information, and if so, can you provide it here?
- Cristo
"A pedophile is an individual whose primary sexual orientation is for children. Quite literally the word pedophilia means love ("-philia") for children ("pedo-"). In the field of psychology, a pedophile is considered to have paraphilia, or a psychosexual disorder. In the field of law, a pedophile is not a criminal unless s/he acts on their desires for children." -- http://www.criminal-law-lawyer...
- Cristo
@Glenn: please cite a US law that supports your opening contention. did you even bother to read the discussion? sheesh, people rip on me for "going around and around" but it's kinda nutty how commonly people drop into a FF conversation and repeat something that's been said/discussed/refuted as if they are adding something new. So I'm taking your bait, Glenn. "According to US law" it's pedophilia? Really?! Illuminate me.
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
@Cristo yes and it is my understanding that in a legal definition, a child is anyone under the age of consent
- Glenn Slaven
The legal definition of "child" is not static in our legal system. For example, a child can be charged as an adult for certain types of crimes.
- Alex Scoble
"A person under the age of majority" ie voting age
- Glenn Slaven
"Under the common law, a person who is under 14 years of age."
- Glenn Slaven
That's from the Websters Law dictionary
- Glenn Slaven
Except if you commit certain crimes, then you are an adult. Oh and you can also die for your country with your parent's consent.
- Alex Scoble
Alex, I'm not sure how that's relevant to this definition?
- Glenn Slaven
Glenn, where is it stated that "paedophilia" is a crime? That's my point.
- Cristo
From the above quote "A pedophile is an individual whose primary sexual orientation is for children" and from the link I posted is the legal definition of what a child is. With those two definitions, what Polanski did can be legally described as paedophilia. The quote you posted says they are a criminal if they act on those desires, which he definitely did
- Glenn Slaven
Glenn, show me a US law that contains the word pedophile or paedophilia in it. It is the action that is illlegal, not the intent. A person could hate children and if they do the same action, then they are guilty of a crime. It has nothing to do with loving children.
- Cristo
You were the one who posted that quote
- Glenn Slaven
Yes, I posted it to make a point. A point which you are not getting.
- Cristo
Clearly. It says that the act of having sex with a child is an act of paedophillia and that it is criminal, and the legal definition for a child is either under 14 or under the voting age. Under all these instances, it is covered.
- Glenn Slaven
I haven't seen anywhere the phrase "act of paedophillia" other than in your comments. The term is used in psychiatry, but I have yet to see a law that uses that term. If you want to use a psychiatry term, than you should stick to the psychiatric definition of a child, which is not the legal definition.
- Cristo
BTW, I would love you guys who think a child means anyone under 18 to use the term child to a 17 year old. I'm sure you'll get a great response. Try it at your local coffee shop, or to the skateboarders in the town square. Say it to the bag boy taking your groceries out to your car. That's why the law has a technical term for it: minor. As in, next year you can go fight wars and get shot.
- Cristo
17 is not a child under any law I'm aware of, it's generally 16 or 14 that is the cut-off. After that they're either legally known as a minor, or simply an adult depending on where you are.
- Glenn Slaven
Glenn, you seem like an intelligent guy, but you aren't posting any sources. Is there a definition of child you are referring to somewhere online? Is there a legal reference to paedophillia you can point to in some state or US law?
- Cristo
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode... "“(8) the effect of visual depictions of child sexual activity on a child molester or pedophile using that material to stimulate or whet his own sexual appetites, or on a child where the material is being used as a means of seducing or breaking down the child’s inhibitions to sexual abuse or...
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- Glenn Slaven
It's not exactly a definition, more an example of actions taken, which is kind of the issue here
- Glenn Slaven
and yes, Glenn, I can say that people using the word in that context don't know what it means - because they don't. Cristo has this exactly right. You can't mix and match various definitions to suit your purposes. Pedophilia is a psychiatric - not legal - term - and it specifically refers to sexual urges for prepubescent children. It's a psychiatric term just like agoraphobia or sexual sadism or object fetishist or bipolar disorder - thus it has a psychiatric definition.
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
I'm not trying to be difficult here, I just don't think it's right to accuse people of being ignorant when using the word to describe what Polanski did, and I really don't think it's right to accuse people who are angry about what happened as "ragers". Would you be happier if people started using "child molester" instead of paedophile?
- Glenn Slaven
Glenn, why don't they just call him a rapist, or an anal rapist? That seems bad enough to me.
- Cristo
Because drugging & raping someone under the age of consent is worse. I removes any issue of "he said/she said" that often occurs in rape cases and there is a harsher penalty
- Glenn Slaven
@Glenn: I understand and I'm not trying to be difficult either [but Cristo is] ;) - I'm simply saying that Polanski's victim was pubescent and thus his actions do not fit the clinically-accepted parameters of pedophilia. Now, as you accurately point out, “child” has varied definitions. But that's a little bit tangential.
- Anthony Citrano
@Cristo: why don't we call him a terrorist? ;-p
- Anthony Citrano
Glenn, he should have been charged with the rape of minor under the age of 14. What do you call someone who murders a child? Is there a fancy greek word for that? If you want to say he's a teen anal rapist, that's pretty accurate, or you could say he was a junior high anal rapist, but people might think you're writing a story for alt.sex.stories. I think there's a little too much interest in this story for the wrong reasons.
- Cristo
Anthony, definitely. He's a child terrorist, because he terrorized a child. In fact, all criminals should be classified as terrorists, because somebody is terrified of them. Let's take over all of Cuba and ship them all there.
- Cristo
@Cristo the main reason there's massive interest in this story is 1) He's famous 2) He skipped bail and has been living the "high-life" for 30 years 3) A whole bunch of famous people came out and said what he did wasn't "rape-rape".
- Glenn Slaven
I grew up in the 70s in LA, and I heard about this story around the time it happened. The information we had back then was pretty limited, and my impression was that it was consensual. From recollection she was already sexually active before the incident. Things were pretty lax back then, and I never gave it a lot of thought. With the recent news that she was non-consensually anally raped at such a young age, I lost any lenience or sympathy for him. Just want to make my position clear.
- Cristo
Larger models 'spark fashion row' - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2...
Type Micah, Amy℠, آق مَـــهدی «Mr.Mahdi» and 38 other people liked this
"A stylist and casting director have left a London Fashion Week show over a decision to use average-sized models, a fashion boss says."
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from Bookmarklet
It's good they're using larger sized models. I despise those in the fashion industry who think stick figured models is the norm.
- Mol, Santa Claws
Mark me down as one who doesn't see it as "good", but hell, beauty's in the eye of the beholder. If a designer and his/her fans decide that "average sized" is wondrous and aspirational, then so be it.
- Anthony Citrano
I'm sorry, but as a larger sized woman, I don't get why people like you Anthony would prefer anorexic looking models? I bet you're a guy who loves a skinny woman with large breasts? I'm sorry, but what you said kind of offends me. I don't like people who think larger sized women aren't beautiful. >:(
- Mol, Santa Claws
LOL.
- Derrick
I would be interested to know what that chick in the black dress has wrong with her, according to Anthony. As far as I can see, she's rocking that dress better than any size 0 chickie could do. :D If I was looking for a Mark Fast dress, and saw her, I'd be at their shop as fast as possible.
- Bette Cooper
Here's the thing: why do you care what Anthony finds attractive, or doesn't find attractive?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Because Anthony's sentiments are parallel that of the article, MVB. Interesting that ultimately what they're saying is that average = too big, never mind that few real world women are size zero or two.
- Derrick
I don't. I'm interested in finding out how his mind works, if he can look at a beautiful woman like the chick in black and think it's bad that she's walking a runway in a major fashion show. All the guys I know, around the world, would think she's far better looking than most of the high fashion models working today. So it fascinates me when a guy seems to prefer someone who looks like she needs a series of pb&j injections. :D
- Bette Cooper
The world of fashion and modeling and such is so rarefied (assuming I'm using the word correctly) I'm surprised anyone cares. I recognize that the images that are displayed are reflected back on society as a whole but these people - even the "normal/plus" sized ones - are so beyond what is "regular" and "average" and "normal" in looks that I don't see why we get so involved with them. I see it like Kabuki. Some hyper stylized fiction. *shrug*
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
Not only that, Barry, but what is often considered "plus size" in the world of modeling is often what the average real woman is likely to be sized like.
- Derrick
For the record, I would look like a drug addict if I was a size 10. I know. I've been there before and it isn't pretty. I never want to look that horrible again.
- Admiral Anika
I do agree those models don't look "plus size". Plus size to me is size 16 and up.
- Mol, Santa Claws
These models ain't plus nothing...LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I'm waiting for short models to appear on the runway.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
The UK size 12 they're talking about is a size 10 here.I'd hardly call a 10 plus sized.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
Most designers don't want people wearing their clothes. Honestly. They like that their stuff is unattainable both in price and size by the average woman.
- EricaJoy
Wait, those are supposed to be larger? WTF! (And m9m, at 4'9" I wholeheartedly agree with you!)
- Ladybug Heather
That they call these "larger models" is offensive. They're barely average sized. Real women have meat on their bones. I <3 real women.
- Jason Huebel
Hey m9m, America's Next Top Model is focusing on shorter models this year.
- Mol, Santa Claws
*opens a new bag of popcorn*
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from iPod
@Mol, if America's Top Model wasn't so ridiculously stupid (you can't take it seriously anymore), it might actually have a message to send to the modeling industry.
- Jason Huebel
I keep thinking of Merle Streep telling Anne Hathaway, "Sure, give the fat girl a try" in the Devil Wears Prada. If I was as fat as Anne Hathaway, Josh would chain me to the bed and never let me see the light of day. EDIT: not because he cares what size I am, but because he loves Anne Hathaway.
- Trish Haley
MVB, you're a single man who's in the dating world. What's your take? What kind of women do you like?
- Derrick
My preference is irrelevant, Derrick, as is Anthony's. That people would purport to tell another what is and is not attractive is wrong.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from iPod
The fashion industry pisses me off. I love women, in all the maddening variety of shapes and sizes they happen to exist in.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Agreed MVB, each to our own. It shouldn't matter what size you are, if someone finds you attractive how lucky you are to have that. The article never states the models are 'plus sized', it explains there were 3 larger models, larger than the rest of the girls. Also, the designer advocates losing the traditional numerical sizes in order to challenge 'the norms', so if the people that left didn't like that then, well, they obviously didn't read the designer brief properly before agreeing to showcase.
- Charlotte M
A sampling of why this feels like deja vu all over again: "It Really Bothers Me That Keira Knightley Has No Boobs" - http://tinyurl.com/no4o4g; "Real Women Have Curves" - http://tinyurl.com/ldt3p4; "Perfect Body" - http://tinyurl.com/n429px; "Jennifer Love Chewitt" - http://tinyurl.com/kqc2v4; "Best Female Figure" - http://tinyurl.com/lrdeqq; "Did Jessica Simpson Get Fat?" - http://tinyurl.com/nqnwz5 ...
- Anthony Citrano
fattiessss
- Will Higgins™
LOL. AC you have spent waaaaay too much time on this!
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Anthony just likes dating skeletons, I know this much is true.
- Derrick
Skeletons need lovin' too.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Indeed they do.
- Derrick
Pffttt! What matters is who gets attention in real life and the runway should REFLECT real life not try to CRAM an unobtainable ideal! I get more love from guys than a size 0 chick, I'm a size 14 (pre-pregnancy of course ;) Do guys really want a bag of bones in bed or something to cling to?
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
I'm with you, Zu, but clearly some people want their skeletal bag of bones.
- Derrick
@MVB: nono, I have a staff for such things. I'm actually busy in Amsterdam, chasing skeletons and space cakes.
- Anthony Citrano
I don't think it's nice to call people a bag of bones just because they're skinny. Smaller people get just as much backlash as larger people.
- Charlotte M
"Space cakes?"
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
MVB: he's in Amsterdam, surely you can figure out what a 'space cake' might be...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
... and don't call me Shirley!
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
I'll call you whatever I like, Shirley!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Wow, where to start. First of all, size has nothing to do with femininity. A woman is 'real' regardless of her weight or measurements provided she is XX genetically. PERIOD. I will shoot the next person who claims that only 'heavier' women are 'real'.
- fn (fairnymph)
Secondly, as others have noted, MODELS ARE NOT REALITY. They are not supposed to reflect reality. They are effectively an art form, and as such, it is completely up to the discretion of the artists involved. Would you tell a painter he can't paint on canvas, it's too 'thin' and he must use some 'real' material such as wood? A model is the canvas for the designer's work, and thus the artist, here a designer, should be able to choose his type of material.
- fn (fairnymph)
Thirdly, let the market drive things - and it does. If you want to complain about thin models and small sizes - don't patronise them. Don't buy those magazines and don't buy that clothing. Go buy size-inflated Old Navy.
- fn (fairnymph)
ZOMG I *love* Old Navy! Even *I'm* a zero there. ;-p
- Anthony Citrano
Fairynymph, I can agree with your argument that models are a type of artform and that they are up to the artist. However, it would appear the fashion industry doesn't agree since there were people involved in the show who quit *because* the 'artist' chose to use larger sized models. Apparently in their eyes models are supposed to be thin rather than reflecting the vision of the artist.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
How do I disable the function that allows me to take out a tabbed web page from Safari? I am constantly doing this accidentally and it drives me nuts! And I can never figure out how to put the tabbed web page BACK into my main window.
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How are you "constantly" doing this "accidentally"? You actually have to drag a tab outside the main window to make a separate window. To "put it back", select the main window and then select "Window->Merge All Windows" from the menu.
- Khürt Williams
Hey, now that I know how to merge it back I don't care, that's easy and GREAT - thank you! But, I do a lot of clumsy accidental typing/clicking, so this sort of thing is common for me. Thank god for undo and people like you. :)
- fn (fairnymph)
Glad to help. I really was curious about how it was happening. I thought maybe it was a config issue.
- Khürt Williams
I didn't think it was a config issue (although I'd still like to disable it as I NEVER want to remove a tab - merge, maybe very rarely, but remove as its own window, never). I'm just a sloppy typist/mouser.
- fn (fairnymph)
The Officially Unofficial BPAL Fan Community - Ammo Box Question - http://community.livejournal.com/sinands...
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- fn (fairnymph)
Movie Prop, Movie Costumes & Memorabilia Search Results - #1 Movie Props & Movie Memorabilia - Premiere Props - http://www.premiereprops.com/advance...
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Underworld costumes and props
- fn (fairnymph)
Titty Cat
HealingBrush, (jeff)isageek, امـيـرحـسـن !!! and 64 other people liked this
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww
- Shevonne
oh shit
- Onur Gündüz
WTF is wrong with you?
- Matthew DeVries
that cat got taken away from it's mom too early. Seriously. No.
- Helen Sventitsky
WTF!
- Mathew™ one of a kind
It's not like human milk is the least bit useful to a cat, and the antibodies? So wrong.
- Matthew DeVries
Reminds me this: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Onur Gündüz
WTFF
- Leslie Poston
It's like an all natural breast pump
- sofarsoShawn
wrongness
- BEX
its not fair
- ramin
aw hell naw
- Rodfather
I can't wait till I lactate. I'm going to make my own breastmilk brie, and it shall be awesome.
- fn (fairnymph)
wahaha!
- Randy
WTF‽
- Joey Gibson
or remember this from family guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- ludovico
Am I wrong to 'like' this?
- Larry Hudson
FUCK NO! AGH!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Tough titty said the kitty, but the milk's still good.
- Internet's Tad
Gah!
- Andrew
... cat nip
- Johnny Worthington
I showed my cat a bottle of breastmilk to see what she'd do. She couldn't care less about it.
- Rochelle
& a break from the financial crisis doldrums
- sofarsoShawn
gosh！
- junrxu
That cat looks like it should have been weaned LONG ago!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
@tinypants: You forgot M's from those NOM's ;)
- Jemm
ellere varda bize yok mu? :)
- Harun R. Demirbaş
*hide*
- Janet
Sorry, I have to. OM NOM NOM NOM.
- Will Higgins™
if I had a set I'd say that would feel titillating
- sofarsoShawn
so wrong.
- Valley
what in theeeee hell?
- Live4Emma (L4S)
ummm, Illegal, disgusting, ew, stop
- Melissa Maskevich
Didn't Tori Amos do this once with a piglet?
- Akiva Moskovitz
Chris loft didn't like this (Un-like)
- Chris Loft
This would get you banned from Facebook!
- Tamar Weinberg
Wow, I really could have lived without seeing that....ever.
- Christian (Simply X)
Would Facebook ban that?
- Seth Gottlieb
LOL I do believe it Tori Amos did suckle a piglet
- sofarsoShawn
Melissa, how is it illegal?
- Rochelle
WTF?
- AJ Batac
No one posted the vid link yet? http://www.videosift.com/video...
- Percival
Oh dear
- Simon Wicks
گربه اشرافی
- ژوکر معترض
omg disturbing
- Manuela
hide!
- Şenay Şen
:))
- atalmatal
Also, wasn't someone in Dune sentenced to milk a cat? Or was that just some weirdness that Lynch added to his version?
- Akiva Moskovitz
@Akiva: That comment reminds me of "Meet the Parents" http://www.imdb.com/title... :)
- Jemm
Whoa, read it a while ago, so don't remember that...but yeah he throws in the act of "milking" a l ot
- sofarsoShawn
شت
- کاغذ رنگی
titty cat, titty cat I love you...
- sofarsoShawn
if this were facebook that picture would be so removed! especially if it were a human infant attached to the milk dispencer.
- Nathan Eckenrode
@Melissa: It's not illegal to breast feed animals, and why should it be? Why is it 'disgusting'? Do you think it's disgusting that humans drink cow's and goat's milk, among other things?
- fn (fairnymph)
I asked that on another thread here a while back, fairnymph, when someone was acting all offended about the PETA / Ben and Jerry's thing... personally, I find inter-species milk exchange a lot more offensive than intra-species milk exchange. But I'm not a milk drinker.
- Anthony Citrano
'twas here: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Anthony Citrano
I know you're not a milk drinker my dear, but you continue to be LOGICAL, which is why I love you so. If someone thinks all adult milk consumption is gross, I can understand and respect that. But arbitrarily considering some interspecies milk consumption acceptable and others not is irrational. It reminds me of all the silly knee-jerk reactions I got in response to drinking breastmilk cocoa. Curious - would you drink human milk?
- fn (fairnymph)
I want no milk from any mammal.
- Anthony Citrano
I do wish Melissa would come back and explain why she think this is illegal.
- Rochelle
But don't you consume dairy products, Anthony? I too, Rochelle.
- fn (fairnymph)
what if: that was a monkey instead of a cat....
- bcultral
I imagine it would be tastier and healthier for the monkey (relative to the more distantly related cat).
- fn (fairnymph)
Why do you all make me hide things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
I do consume dairy products, yes [only humane, organic, blah blah], but still wish I didn't. Drinking milk and eating meat have been long out of my diet, though.. it's a long process... Also agree w/ your health analysis w/r/t monkey vs. cat. Also good luck with people coming back to threads. This is why threads die; FF still tends to be drive-by for most users.
- Anthony Citrano
If I send you some of my homemade dairy products one day, will you eat them? :D
- fn (fairnymph)
No, I'd probably tell you I did and then give them to the neighbors. BTW, you're freaking out the squares. ;p
- Anthony Citrano
@akiva Tori Amos did it on the cover for Boys for Pele, and yes, David Lynch is pretty weird.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
@Akiva, no, it's really part of Dune. Thufir Hawat was poisoned and had to milk a cat for the antidote. Not that Lynch didn't brilliantly realize the whole thing onscreen.
- Josh Haley
You know I love freaking out the squares! And I'll make some delicious ice cream in a flavour you can't resist.
- fn (fairnymph)
I knew a chick on Yahoo who did that once. Not pleasant to watch
- Outsanity
@anthony I thought you were all about the titty? Must I remind you of the Kiera Knightly tweet? http://friendfeed.com/e... You were all about BIG MAMS
- sofarsoShawn
Trust me, Shawn, I would not be trying to milk her.
- Anthony Citrano
گربه هم نشدیم :دی
- A.J.
lol A.J. ايشالّا به موقع !
- AmiN007110
As an ubah cat lover... I shall never stoop to this level of loving my cat. Frankly this is so wrong in so many ways. So the fairnymph freak who thinks this is okay...it's not HUMAN!! this is a fricken CAT!! Let us drink our goats milk and cows milk, that is what our CREATOR intended for HUMANS. For the LOVE!!
- Tracy
@Ryo, so net:net you're saying we ought to raise women for milk?
- Anthony Citrano
Why oh why has this thread resurfaced?!
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
DO NOT WANT!
- Michael Forian
Still wondering why Melissa thinks this is illegal.
- Rochelle
It's back! Can Akiva's Nipple Beach be far behind?
- Christopher Harley
Who doesn't love the titty cat...I'll see if i can find the beach whales
- sofarsoShawn
Eff off, titty puss!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Its the most beautiful, natural thing in the world...But theres an effing cat attached to it!
- Joe Pierce
عجب گربه ای :)))))))))))))
- Farzad
hello Titty cat, made sure to remember the milk
- sofarsoShawn
hello yourself =)
- ramin
Back for more?
- Christopher Harley
I have a few guys on a beach that might want to meet this cat.
- Akiva Moskovitz
just in time for the facepalm meme
- Josh Haley
I'm sure the cat wants to meet them!
- sofarsoShawn
Hayvan sevgimin bittiği andır!
- Handem
NSFW~ omg
- MoiN AnjuM
Is it ok for Facebook to prevent groups that do this?
- Matthew DeVries
You know, Titty Cat shares the same anniversary as 4 Dudes on a beach. March 1st ~ Down in History.
- sofarsoShawn
Really? That's... misfortunate for all.
- Akiva Moskovitz
:-&
- یوسف
Is that cat wearing a shirt? DO I see a shirt collar?
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Bec, a cat wearing a shirt?! That would just be flat out weird :o)
- sofarsoShawn
Lucky cat :D
- Alif Rachmawadi
how did that appear alongside the drinking meme?!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Hmmmm, maybe that cat was drinking milk? Thoughts???
- sofarsoShawn
what the fuck
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
o', the horror, :o
- chaz2b
That's WRONG WRONG WRONG!
- Diego Barros
I find this more disturbing than moobs
- Jimminy Fuller
sorry but.. NOM NOM NOM.
- Bora Mesut PALAS
I just threw up in my mouth a little :(
- Justin Broderick
Do you think that cat is Republican or Democrat? Sucking at the welfare teat I bet it's an Obama supporter!!! Indubitably.
- sofarsoShawn
NOT THIS AGAIN
- Caroline
I could swear I hid this a while back.
- Beau Liening
It might relate to a recent story I saw about infants preferring the taste of alcohol flavored breast milk moreso than regular milk flavored breast milk though.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
ACK!
- AJ Batac
Can you milk ME, Focker?
- Mark Davidson
Someone needs to photoshop a "Got Milk" mustache on the pussy
- Livy
So is this "BANNED" now that Facebook's in charge? Shiitiit!!!!!!
- sofarsoShawn
:))))
- ramin
من ديوونه اينو كي لايك زدم اصلا يادم نيست :دي
- egza
wo0o0ow
- Farahnaz
Uhh... wow. I was totally not expecting all of the violently negative reactions when I expanded the comments on this entry. What gives?
- Tristan Seligmann
I'm thankful for Titty Cat, always good for a pull
- Livy
A real woman in ... Cheryl Cole's swimsuit | Mail Online - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail...
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"Ever on trend, Cheryl Cole turned heads in the South of France when she hit the beach in this lime-green, mirror-trimmed monokini. Cutaway swimsuits are one of the biggest looks for summer and this one-piece from designer Melissa Odabash - whose fans include Victoria Beckham and Halle Berry - costs an eye-watering £450. ... We asked a real woman to road-test it for us, proving that even the most gorgeous size 12 lady can't make it look good."
- Fa La La La Lindsay
from Bookmarklet
I agree with the commenters on the article that we shouldn't flip around and denigrate skinny women. However, I'll take "real" in this instance to mean a regular ol' gal with average genes who doesn't have $ for a personal trainer, personal chef, and plastic surgery. There are very very few women on whom such a suit would look okay. And even those women would probably look even better in another style.
- Spidra Webster
It's interesting to make plain what most women already know somewhere deep inside: catalog pictures, magazines, pattern pictures all depict a very ideal way the clothing looks, usually on someone whose build is shared by only 1% of the population. To be fair, the way the "real woman" posed in the first pic is unflattering and I'll bet they knew that. She used the more flattering contrapostal pose with the red suit.
- Spidra Webster
I would think anyone who can get away with a bikini could get away with this monokini... I just thought the article was interesting that they even went to the trouble to point out that only super skinny people look good in bikinis.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I actually don't think it looks good on either one. It looks baggy on the skinny person and, of course,they've ensured that it doesn't look good on the normal one.
- Kenton
I'm not sure why women with attractive bodies aren't "real women."
- Jason Nunnelley
hmmm... that's some nice models.
- Matt Ruiz
so, if you're not overweight, you're not a "real woman." (i.e. what Jason said)
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
Whoops, caught a bad typo of mine above. I meant "should not flip around". Duly corrected.
- Spidra Webster
C Cole is STUNNING.. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
@Jason and Anthony - You could say "not either a woman privileged with a small frame and naturally awesome metabolism or privileged with money and idle time to spend focusing on molding her body" but since that probably covers the majority of women, it's simpler just to say "real woman".
- Fa La La La Lindsay
real Women are them that really stand alongside their man.. IMHO !! having a 34-24-34 stat's is good, but will they walk the walk alongside the man they choice ?
- Peter Dawson
@Peter - For a man to be good enough to stand beside, he needs to make her feel beautiful regardless of whether she can look good in a monokini. That's the hard part... most men won't give you a second glance unless you do. They all want the models.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Those men are a lot harder to find (I'm lucky I found one but not before having given up trying). I don't think they're the majority.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I cant speak for all men.. all I know is its cute if they have the model figure..but thats not enough.. yeah like the txt sez on one of my t-shirts- "Still looking for the stripper with a heart of gold" :)-
- Peter Dawson
I think a term like "pear shaped body" is more honest. I know lots of "real women" that are in their early twenties and built better than the first model. I'd hope women are realistic enough to know that suit is going to be awful on just about any body other than a fitness model. I love a "real women," who had a brick house build at 18, a few extra pounds in the wrong places at 36. But,...
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- Jason Nunnelley
A friend of mine was gawking at perfectly built young ladies in a local restaurant one day, turned to me and said "Where did all these hot chicks come from?" I answered, "High School." They suddenly weren't nearly as attractive. Lots of people had perfect bodies at 18.
- Jason Nunnelley
The last time we had this conversation, it devolved into Lindsey telling me that I “hated fat people.” Nonetheless, I can't resist wading in (because our schizophrenic national conversation about this issue is kinda a pet issue/peeve of mine.) Lindsey: no, they do not mean non-celebrities when they say "real women" and you know it. They mean overweight women (or, to use your preferred...
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- Anthony Citrano
Doesn't matter. That is one uuuugly swimsuit.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
i hate monokinis!
- Jess Lee
Wow, Anthony stepped into a big pile of it. All I was saying is that fit attractive women are also "real women." But, what do I know? I'm a white male. Now, if I were a wise older latina I would have something to share of value.
- Jason Nunnelley
Monokinis only look good on women with no curves. Big, fat, skinny, small or thin. If you have a waist, it looks odd. Because it's supposed to draw attention to the waist. It creates this faux-waist. Like bustles look good on women with no curves. Anyways, interesting post.
- anna sauce
@Anthony, if you have a "perfect body" then you have to put a ton of time and effort (and therefore have the money to support that time and effort) or you just have to be lucky and have great genes. It's not fair to assume that anyone who doesn't have the perfect body is just lazy. Maybe they're actually living their life instead of spending hours in a gym because they want to impress...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
The swimsuit looks absolutely ridiculous on both women due to how it accents the hip bones. There is nothing wrong with a woman who is overweight and knows it and just doesn't care. That's not the case with the large majority. They just don't have the motivation, will power, or whatever to consistently exercise and eat healthy. It doesn't take more than an hour or so a day, doesn't...
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- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I disagree that it's easy Rah... It was a huge struggle for me to lose 90+lbs before... It was something I had to constantly focus on and constantly stay vigilant about. It was a hell of a lot of work. And then I had two months of total stress (being laid off and trying to find a new job) then two months of loss of control (staying in a hotel without a car so no choice but to eat at...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
Easy was probably a poor word choice, but it's certainly not as difficult to lose weight as many want to make it out to be. It's just not that hard or impossible to lose a bunch of weight. To think otherwise is just...unhealthy, both physically and mentally.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
It is nearly impossible if you don't have time. Don't have time to go to the grocery store every week and buy the food you SHOULD be eating instead of the convenience food because you don't have anything at home... Impossible if you can't make time to exercise every day... If you're working overtime a lot...If you aren't exercising at home then it takes more than an hour every day...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
If I could quit my job I'd love to spend an hour or more every day doing some exercise, but I'm working, plus doing sidework, plus family, plus basically another part time job at my dojo... there is no time.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Rah: I'm sure you've heard this before but it's nonetheless true - weight loss is not the same for women. Their bodies are programmed to survive and bear children, not build muscle. It's a different process than the way men lose weight.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
It's only an hour or so out of every 24. It will greatly increase the quality and longevity of your life overall. You don't need a gym membership and you can involve the whole family. Even the crappiest little fast-food hole in the wall has some item on their menu that is less unhealthy than the rest. Sure, women's bodies are "programmed to survide and bear children", but that has nothing to do with shedding excess weight. Building muscle usually has nothing to do with it either.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I don't really want to see anyone in that swimsuit.
- Richard Lawler
i think the "real" woman looks pretty damned hot in both suits, but that's just me. i do think she looks alot more comfortable in the red one-piece, however.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
I agree Dead Silence
- Mo Kargas
After seeing this pop up a bunch of times, I'm still not feeling the monokini – on either model. The red suit looks good, though.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Weed ...I'm with you: Red, ftw!
- .LAG liked that
I don't know. i think the "real woman" looks kind of hot in both suits. i like how the red with the heels looks retro.
- edythe
I think not all swimsuits (or clothes) are for every BODY. I'm a "real" woman and I use the dressing rooms to see if it's flattering. I'm a waif. You gotta play to your assets!
- R1CC1
I hate the style of that swimsuit. It's like "look at my sides!" I don't think anyone can look good in it. Seems like the least complimentary shape ever. (imho >.>)
- Heather
I think we all agree the suit is ugly. It's not flattering on any model.
- Jason Nunnelley
Women have different body shapes and sizes, so there will always be a swimsuit that is unflattering.
- Shevonne
note: it's not flattering on the celebrity either
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
@Lindsay: you *completely* missed my point about the “fat, lazy” remark. And saying that I've made clear I “don't respect any woman who doesn't meet [my] conception of beautiful” is an absolutely fucking ridiculous thing to say. Not too far above Lindsey's remark about me hating fat people. Ask any woman in my life if my “respect” for them is at all predicated on my desire (or lack...
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- Anthony Citrano
Aside from the ppl who do not take care of their bodies beauty can be many shapes. Shift over to include men. I will admit I hated how I looked through my twenties and hid. I still have the same body and love it. Realized it was what I have and time wasn't going help. I know what I can pull off. The rest is confidence. And illusions. Not everyone will find me attractive. Ppl tell me to eat which is rude. I love curvey women. My daughters are curvey. I encourage them to love their shape. <3
- R1CC1
Anthony, I love to see someone else get the sexist jerk card thrown at them :) Apparently, you don't take it better than I do. Defending whether or not you respect people is just plain silly. It's silly that you need to, doubly so that we often do it. Your statement is not a position of personal taste or opinion. It's fact. Americans are killing themselves with this high self-esteem fatty syndrome. I'm not in the best of shape, but I'm aware of what too heavy is and most Americans are too heavy. [part1]
- Jason Nunnelley
You can tell fat women to go ahead and eat the extra bon bons because they should love themselves and accept who they are, but be sure to tell them to accept the diabetes, heart disease and increased risk of cancer while you're at it. I also think the Barby Doll perfection crap out of Hollywood is bad for girls' self image - got two of them, and they're beautiful the way they are. But,...
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- Jason Nunnelley
This fucking REAL WOMEN shit is on par with EAT A CHEESEBURGER et al shit. Many, maybe even a very significant majority of women, could be very thin if they starved enough, which requires neither time nor money. I am not suggesting anyone do this, but it remains a fact. Also, when has 'real women' as a phrase EVER referred to thin chicks? No one has EVER called thin women 'real women',...
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Anyone read this book?
- Amani
I listened to the audio book. I liked it a lot
- Rodfather
LOVED this book. As I said on another thread on FF, it's a book I wish I could forget I've ever read so I could reread it as if it were the first time.
- Nurse Katie
Read and loved it. One of the best I've read in the last five years. Top 10 list material for sure.
- AJ Kohn
Wow Katie. That is a nice compliment. I may order this book. I wanna a hardback copy. I think you are right AJ. I hear about this book the most when I am on eharmony. Everybody raves about it.
- Amani
On my shelf to read. :)
- fn (fairnymph)
The movie is coming out next year. http://www.imdb.com/title...
- Rodfather
Eric Bana and Rachel McAdams
- Rodfather
Rodfather - I'M ALREADY EXCITED! And I haven't even read the book. Talk about all-star cast.
- fn (fairnymph)
+1 Just Katie. I wasn't expecting to like it so much, but it was wonderful.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I had a friend who read it first and she told me "Stick with it!" because the plot is unusual and tough to follow at first. But it's soooooo worth it.
- Nurse Katie
Maybe I need to check this out...
- Derrick
I really enjoyed it.
- Heather Solos
This book was as good as advertised. 524 pages of a great story. Plenty of ups and downs and definitely NOT predictable. My like alot. This is in my personal top 10 and maybe top 5.
- Amani
I liked this one a lot. I got caught up in the story, which I consider a sign of a good read.
- Heather Solos
It is fantastice
- optman
Great book.
- Steve C
French cosmetics giant L’Oréal guilty of racial discrimination - Times Online - http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol...
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glad to see they got called on it.
- R. Ferguson
from Bookmarklet
i've worked in/around the space a bit over the years, and never once have I heard the term "BBR". interesting.
- Anthony Citrano
So...nobody noticed that these brands discriminated in regards to shampoo and other hair products before? I mean...maybe that was only my perception.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
There's a *really* fine line between personal/brand/designer aesthetics and what we broadly term as "discrimination". Hard to know where to appropriately draw the boundaries.
- Anthony Citrano
And hair products marketed at black people don't use solely black models? This makes me think clothing companies only making women's clothing must be sexist too.
- fn (fairnymph)
Because you're worth it. You've come a long way, baby. You can trust your car to the man who wears the star.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Well, we all don't use the same hair care products, I just didn't think something like this would actually be an issue, but I have brillo for hair, so maybe that's just me.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
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Who else besides me eats the seeds when they eat a watermelon? Obviously, I'm not talking about the weak ass seeds you get in a "seedless" watermelon.
Steven Perez, Morton Fox, Jennifer Dittrich and 8 other people liked this
I do! who has time to spit them out? (also spitting is gross). I also eat the shell part when I eat sunflower seeds.
- Joe Pierce
Not me... I don't want to poop a watermelon... Already enough of that in Dirty Dancing
- Johnny Worthington
I make an effort to sift through some when I'm not busy killing threads.
- Christopher Harley
ROFL, Christopher.
- Alex Scoble
I don't, because what am I some kind of communist?
- Brett Kelly
That doesn't make any sense, but it's funny!
- Alex Scoble
That was the idea - feeling a little sassy this evening. Also, straight guy just said "sassy".
- Brett Kelly
too lazy to spit?
- BEX
Exactly! And I've come to like the taste of the seeds.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
That's what she...... oh nevermind
- Johnny Worthington
I eat the Sunflower shell and seeds, "no spit outs". But I have not eaten the Watermelon seeds. Pat
- pomahony2
Friend of mine eats boiled/steamed shrimp without peeling them . I would rather eat watermelon seeds than scrimps shells any day :D
- Moved to Facebook
I once went on a date with a girl who ate the shrimp without peeling them. It was Seinfeldian in the sense that it disqualified her from future dates.
- Anthony Citrano
Yeah, I just avoid foods that require a lot of effort to eat...It's why I prefer lobster tails to whole lobsters and I'm not a big fan of shrimp that require me to peel the shells off of
- Alex Scoble
from IM
When I was a kid, I used to eat kiwis without peeling them, until somebody told me you weren't suppose to eat the skin.
- Cristo
Yowch! I've eaten bits of kiwi skin and it's not a pleasant experience
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I do. Swallow 'em like little pills.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
Cool, Mary, I crunch on them like sunflower seeds.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Nope you people must have thousands of watermelons growing in your tummys now. :)
- Steve C
I usually pick out the visible ones with my fork/fingernail, get lazy and then eat the rest that are on the inside of the watermelon.
- Jennifer Dittrich
I eat the entire apple (and pear), including stem, seeds, and core. But I generally don't eat seeds in seeded melons.
- fn (fairnymph)
Nope. I'm a fan of seedless watermelon
- Rodfather
That's how watermelon plants spread out through the land. Animals eat the watermelon, swallow the seeds, and poop out the seeds somewhere else. Then a new watermelon plant grows there. Obviously, it's not going to work so well when we do it, unless we go and poop in the woods somewhere. :)
- Morton Fox
Nope. Too much fun in spitting them, especially at toddlers...
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
I eat them. I didn't used to, but I got tired of the effort.
- Chieze Okoye
‘In my experience, childhood cruelty to animals is the #1 predictor of future violent behavior.’ [John Douglas, former chief of FBI behavioral sciences unit, on MSNBC today.]
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Agreed.
- fn (fairnymph)
bumping because of our cat-slicer discussion today.
- Anthony Citrano
Here Here
- Shevonne
Is it close enough to pre-crime to warrant life time incarceration?
- Matthew DeVries
Animal abuse is a crime in my area, Matthew. Some people think it's stupid, but this correlation is one of many reasons why I agree that it should be considered a jailable offense.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
The thing about that, Tina, is that most factory farms do it daily.
- Anthony Citrano
Yeah, I agree it's a crime, and I think it is everywhere. But I think that the predictive value of this type of crime may warrant just removing them from society forever.
- Matthew DeVries
that and bed wetting is another one of the three signs.
- Wizetux
Douglas is probably right, but I wonder if there's actual scientific research to back it up.
- Stephen Mack
@Stephen: depending on what you consider "scientific research". If you believe that talking to convicted violent offenders about their childhood and then finding correlations between them is scientific research, then yes, there is.
- Wizetux
@Wize: correlation != causation.
- Anthony Citrano
Anthony: it is however possible for scientific findings about causation to start out as observations about correlation.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Wizetux, that's certainly a good basis, but I want to see statistical evidence. Take the entire set of children who are cruel to animals, and work out what percentage of them become future violent offenders. See if that rate is more or less than the general population. Then take the set of violent offenders, and work out what percentage of them were cruel to animals as children. Is that...
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- Stephen Mack
Stephen: see here http://hum.sagepub.com/cgi...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
And also here: http://jiv.sagepub.com/cgi...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
The problem with raising the correlation versus causation flag is that the number of intervening factors are exceedingly high. Sure you can run a regression analysis to flag the most relevant indicators but even THAT is flawed based on what data you use. Date of birth, parental marital status, gender, parent education, geography, height, weight, IQ, exposure to X, physical abuse, mental abuse, bullying, TV watching, eye color, potty training method etc. etc. etc. Sometimes Occam's Razor *does* apply.
- AJ Kohn
Also remember that John Douglas's work was primarily with serial killers, who are an extreme subset of the "violent offenders" umbrella. In that subset, I believe Mr. Douglas said in one of his books that childhood animal abuse was above 90%. Of course, I'm working from memory, so I could be lying to y'all.
- The Letter M
AJ - you only apply Occam's Razor when trying to sort out/define things at the gradients, not the things that are 3 standard deviations from the mean. The gutting animals = you do not ever become a useful member of society passes was those of us in science refer to as the FO test, and therefore doesn't need the tricksie math to back it up.
- Matthew DeVries
Marty, I think I have that book at home, I'll check it... Oops, never mind, I have "Whoever Fights Monsters"
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
" The gutting animals = you do not ever become a useful member of society" Basis, here? Ever? Nobody ever gets an intervention? Nobody ever gets therapy to work something out? I'll agree that it's difficult to imagine, but the problem with this is that our view is starting with the people who exhibited adult violent behavior. So, we come back to Stephen's question, what percentage of children who exhibit this behavior go on to become violent adults?
- The Letter M
The classic triad of bed-wetting, fire setting, and cruelty to animals is still taught in medical text books as being predictive of future acts of violent aggression and as being almost pathognomonic for anti-social personality disorder (what used to be called sociopathy.) I do wonder if there's been any systematic data collection since the observation was first made.
- Victor Ganata
I wonder if better data has been gathered showing that gasoline burns and or the sky being blue. I'm all for mental masturbation and rigorousness of debate over everything from the merely obvious on down, but when we start applying it to the blindingly obvious? That's when we've crossed into the wasting everyone's time category.
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew, calling it obvious doesn't make it so. Again, if you want to look at the childhood experiences of serial killers and say that all people who share those experiences end up as serial killers, feel free. But don't expect me to buy it when your argument is simply, "It's obvious."
- The Letter M
Riiiiiiight
- Matthew DeVries
Except it's really not that obvious. And what happens when you've got a kid who pees in his bed and likes to set fires but hasn't dismembered Fluffy yet? Do you lock him up in the loony bin? Medicate him until he can't see straight?
- Victor Ganata
I don't care how hard you try, I will not be baited into an intellectual discussion.
- Matthew DeVries
@Anthony: I picked my words correctly. I never claimed that correlation was causation.
- Wizetux
The real question is, at what point is someone past the point of no return. If you discover your 5 year old performing surgery on your dog, is that it? And if it is, what do you do with pintsize there?
- The Letter M
maybe your 5 year old is just the next Duggie Howser of Vet med.
- Wizetux
I mean, Bill Frist turned out fine, right?
- Victor Ganata
I've seen no evidence that he's not a serial killer.
- The Letter M
Elagato Systems 10020974 EyeTV Hybrid TV Tuner Stick for Analog, HDTV and FM Radio Reception - http://www.amazon.com/dp...
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Honestly, I think these are pretty useless. There are way better capture options.
- fn (fairnymph)
I have no idea about the function, I just like the concept.
- Dave Roth
Hmm, well if you actually become interested in doing something like this, let me know. I've used an Elgato tuner stick.
- fn (fairnymph)
fn - what other atsc (hdtv) capture options are there for the mac?
- Chuck Kahn
Vanity Fair Poll: Who Is the Most Handsome Man in the World? - http://www.vanityfair.com/online...
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I know for a fact that the most handsome guy is going to be a gay man. They are usually the most gorgeous, fit men EVER!
- Shevonne
Robert Pattinson 77% Seriously? ... SERIOUSLY?! Ew.
- Nine
You forgot someone...*ahem*
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I bet that's some charged up fourteen year old who's started a blog and has corralled all of Twilight fans to vote, vote, and vote some more. Robert Pattinson can't do anything for me but get out of my way.
- Derrick
lol @ Shey! This list is VERY limited, I must say.
- Carmen
There're a whole bunch of DBs on there and Johnny Depp's picture is unfortunate LOL
- Mona Nomura
I'm a Twilight/Pattinson fan, but the hype really needs to die soon. He is not the most handsome man. Ugh, tweens.
- Carmen
That list was in a word vanilla; that being said Clive Owen
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
*fistbump* D.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
It's easier to vote for who I don't want on that list. I don't know who a few of those people are, actually.
- Trish R
Karl Urban or Daniele Liotti for me
- Shevonne
Where's Christian Bale?! Otherwise it's Javier Bardem and Clive Owen
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Main feed! Main feed!
- anna sauce
And can I get some color up in this piece? Where's Mos Def? Djimon Honsou? John Legend?
- Derrick
seriously, Djimon is hawt and his accent? *swoon*
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
from IM
In descending order, from that list: Hugh Jackman, Taylor Kitsch, and James Franco. Though I think Nathan Fillion & Joe Flanigan are the most handsome men in the world.
- fn (fairnymph)
CORRECTION FOR LINDSEY: Can I get some men up in here that are representative of a ethnic background other than a European one? I know there are some hot Eskimos out there, we just never see them. :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
- Derrick
this reminds me I have forgotten to post my weekly Idris fan club photo to the main feed.
- anna sauce
Nathan Fillion, David Boreanaz and Wayne Palmer are my favs. Oh - not on the list?!?
- WorldofHiglet
Nathan Fillion, David Boreanaz -- YES, woh! -- and Adrian Paul and Brendan Fraser and Matthew McConnaghey (though he's not relationship material, just a fun roll in the hay) and Kenneth Branagh. And I have to say that I like the quirky ones, too, even though they're not conventionally handsome/sexy/hottays: Steve Carrell, Dennis Quaid (such a great smile!), and Bill Pullman.
- Ladybug Heather
And for Derrick: Denzel Washington! I adore his eyes!
- Ladybug Heather
From that list: Clooney tied with Denzel Washington for the first spot; followed very very closely by Clive Owen and Hugh Jackman. And DiCaprio doesn't deserve to be on that list.
- Parth Awasthi
i can think of a dozen dudes who i would rather see on that list, starting with sendhil ramamurthy, boris kodjoe, tyson beckford, idris elba, john abraham, and the four dudes mentioned here: http://funkybrownchick.com/2009...
- tiffany
Thank you, T.
- Derrick
Agree with Tiffany. Tyson Beckford & John Abraham should so totally be there. So should Hrithik Roshan and Dennis Oh.
- Parth Awasthi
no daniel dae kim (from Lost)? I didn't look at them all. But you know who i thought was really hot, speaking of Lost, was the guy who played Sun's English teacher/arranged date. :)
- edythe
Polly, I KNOW him. He's a friend of mine. Are you taking about him? http://www.imdb.com/name...
- Derrick
Brian Blessed
- Johnny Worthington
OMG, derrick... you do not! yes, Tony Snow. [fanning self]
- edythe
I wouldn't be able to tell you. Because I don't know if a guy is handsome or not. Because I am too busy admiring the beauty that the female form brings into the world to notice guys. But just for the sake of discussion, and not because I'm into dude's butts or anything like that, I'd submit Benicio del Toro for consideration, and there's nothing wrong with George Clooney or Pierce Brosnan in terms of their looks. And Brad Pitt does have a good look from time to time. And damn, who DOESN'T like Denzel?
- Morgan Haley
Morgan, you know danged well that you and your hawt brother are the handsomest guys in the world. None of these others can hold a candle to the Haleys. :-)
- Ladybug Heather
Ladybug - yeah, I, sorry, WE know that. But it's not cool to point out the obvious. Dudes have feelings too and I'm still feeling bad about the last time I made Johnny Depp cry....
- Morgan Haley
Some on that list I just don't get. Some are definitely missing from that list. Some don't have their best pictures showing. And then there are those .........
- Martha
no don johnson or philipp michael thomas? what?
- Cee Bee
No Dean Cain or Tom Welling :(
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Even within this list...did anyone check the numbers on this poll??? With 137946 votes Robert Pattinson has 51% of them while absolutely Handsome men like Javier Bardem & Denzel Washington have <1%! It seems no one's got taste these days.
- Parth Awasthi
Saw a guy texting while he was riding a bike today in my neighborhood. Is it just me or is that even stupider than doing it while you're driving a car? Silly, silly people.
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Think on the bright side... at least he's more likely to hurt himself, thus promoting survival of the fittest. Most of the time, texting drivers hurt others while not hurting themselves.
- Wirehead
+1 Wirehead
- CAJ, somewhere else
At the bike race yesterday, I saw one or two guys who were talking on their phones. It was pretty weird
- Shevonne
@Shevonne LOL!
- Matt
http://www.flickr.com/photos... riding a motorbike
- Liviu Barbat
Ahh, modern times! That's pretty hilarious.
- fn (fairnymph)
Sure he wasn't twittering? http://ff.im/3sJLn
- sofarsoShawn
It was absurd. Maybe he was FFing. :) Regardless, he was completely unaware of his surroundings.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
hope he was at least wearing a helmet?
- edythe
No helmet. No shirt. Cutoff jean shorts. And I could be wrong, but I think maybe he was wearing flip-flops.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
Was he also drinking a beer?
- Kelly W.
He should have been. That definitely would have completed the image.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
Are there any hot female softball players?
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Didn't think so.
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
I didn't answer because I don't know any softball players, female or male.
- ha3rvey (doesn't dance)
That's a little too Inside Softball.
- Christopher Harley
How does someone live in LA and ask something like that? Baffled. Oh wait, you like those, uh...thin girls. ;P LOL Yeah, no...there are no hot (to you) female softball players.
- Admiral Anika
Umm, all of them? Female softball are teh hawtness!
- Alex Scoble
google'd it. Jennie Finch http://www.celebwelove.com/Jennie_... http://progressiveboink.com/images... Cat Osterman http://www.chickipedia.com/cat-ost... Taryne Mowatt http://cdn.chickipedia.com/www... http://cache.daylife.com/imagese...
- D. Eda Goze
Yes there are. Female only. No hot dudes playing softball, besides myself of course.
- Steve C
@anika i was at Monsoon and i saw a girl's softball game on, and the thought occurred to me. I suspect you are correct though. However some of the submissions herein warrant further investigation, which is now ongoing....
- Anthony Citrano
I dated a female softball player in the Army. Yes, she was smokin'.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
sorry Deniz but the above are a fail. I tried, I really did, especially w/r/t Ms. Mowatt.
- Anthony Citrano
I think they are very pretty. What is your criteria for hot? They're obviously not models but for some reason I found the question quite condescending. It was kind of a shock coming from you. :/
- D. Eda Goze
Jenny Finch gets a lot of attention.
- Kevin Pedraja
@deniz - my criteria for hot varies. how is it a condescending question? i've just never seen one i found very attractive. my mind was open - esp. since I don't watch sports - so I asked the group.
- Anthony Citrano
Anthony...what is not hot about the women that Deniz linked to?
- Alex Scoble
@alex: i dunno, what's not hot about pistachio ice cream? i just don't like it.
- Anthony Citrano
Hahahhahahahaha!!!!!!
- Mona Nomura
That's not helpful, LOL.
- Alex Scoble
Ouch Anthony!!!! I am playing softball
- Shevonne
No, but also no hot baseball players - it's an ugly sport all around.
- fn (fairnymph)
Finally got a chance to play around with FIOS television this weekend. It's really, really good - vastly better than Time Warner Cable. But Verizon's standard-issue HD DVR (Motorola 7416) is pretty bad. While it *is* marginally better than the Time Warner one (3416), both are pretty bad (remote lag, HDMI issues, awful software, etc).
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But the FIOS TV - content and quality - is a *huge* step up from Time Warner Cable.
- Anthony Citrano
It would be so cool if there was an open API for their backend services. Some really nice products could be made.
- Todd Hoff
Totally agree, Todd. I've heard nothing about that from them - you?
- Anthony Citrano
Wish it was available where I live. I hate the stuffing out of TWC.
- Derrick
Nope, closed as their minds.
- Todd Hoff
@Derrick - do yourself a favor and check nearby addresses, too. When I used the FIOS availability tool on their web site, it said it wasn't available here, either. But entering addresses up the street and on a parallel street said it was. After checking with them, they said they could install it. A lot of addresses that they *can* serve are not in that availability tool - but if there is a cross-connect nearby, they will run a fiber down the street for you.
- Anthony Citrano
Yes the standard HD-DVRs suck. GET A TIVO. So awesome.
- fn (fairnymph)
Yep, have the new Tivo HD XL now. Working great with FIOS - the only thing that doesn't work is on-demand, but I knew that going in. Vastly better than the Motorola boxes..
- Anthony Citrano
The only thing that makes me nervous about bailing from Dish for FIOS or U-verse is the inevitable downgrade in DVR. And I'm not sure I want to go back to eating TiVo's big monthly service fee + advertising.
- Roger Benningfield
@Roger - the advertising is super-subtle in my brief experience thus far. And if you go FIOS, you're going to pay Verizon $16 a month for a box that's significantly inferior to the TiVo...
- Anthony Citrano
Oh yay! Are you streaming to/from your TiVo too over your network? Such a great feature!
- fn (fairnymph)
@Anthony: I had TiVo from 1999 to 2007 (I actually still have a working box, installed at my mom's place), and loved it. But I've become spoiled by Dish's $5/month fee and the general non-buggy competence and (mostly) ad-free nature of the software. Living with satellite rain-fade and 2.5Mbps DSL is less appealing, however.
- Roger Benningfield
@Roger so you'd probably get a discount on a new box. TiVo has a good upgrade policy, IIRC. @fn - not yet. I don't think their software is Mac-compatible, but I've not given any of it a shot yet (media streaming between computers and TiVo).
- Anthony Citrano
Sadly, I'm not convinced TiVo will be in business in 10 years.
- Cristo
@Cristo - is anyone [convinced of that]?
- Anthony Citrano
Anthony, probably there are some. It just feels very fuzzy right now what the path to home media greatness will be.
- Cristo
Well, I think it'd be delusional to think TiVo was necessarily going to be in business in a decade. If they are, it won't be providing a storage+tuning box. IP video will be here in earnest by then, which'll change their business model quite significantly...
- Anthony Citrano
There's Mac software available. I use TivoDecodeManager to get data from the TiVo, To stream to it, I set up something within my TiVo...and my computer shows up on my 'Now Playing' list.
- fn (fairnymph)
The Gourmet Q + A: David Kessler: Food Politics & his new book The End of Overeating: Taking Control of the Insatiable American Appetite - http://www.gourmet.com/foodpol...
Anthony Citrano liked this
Great article about the addictive power of food & the neuroscience behind it, as well as food marketing. Fave quote: "Now food is designed just to stimulate us, and there’s no satiation."
- fn (fairnymph)
from Bookmarklet
"You have to create your own environment, and you have to decide what it is that you value, and you have to have a plan. You have to be able to limit the chaotic and constant eating that we’ve become wired to do."
- fn (fairnymph)
Palimpsest - http://www.amazon.com/dp...
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sofarsoShawn liked this
I've read, great book
- sofarsoShawn
Glad to hear it, shawn! :)
- fn (fairnymph)
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