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Hanalei homesteads, Kauai, Hawaii
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Tuesday at 10:24 pm - Link
A few photos from a three day vacation in Kauai last week. - Simon
I'm jealous at what a higher league you are in photography. :) - Matt Cutts
nice video of the falls, too. - David Vasileff
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August 22 at 10:58 am - Link
At Starbucks this morning I heard, for the first time, a stranger mention 'FriendFeed' in the wild. I couldn't catch the context of their conversation, but it's a minor milestone nonetheless. - Kevin Fox
beefbnierf? beefbrief? beef brief? beef? Mmm…beef. - Andrew Trinh
Kevin, that's awesome. I've yet to hear anything other than FB or MS i the wild =/ - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)
I love the decal -- how do we get one? ;) - Nicholas Kreidberg
Excellent! - Nicholas Kreidberg
now friendfeed can 'officially' claim it was an east coast office :) - goutham
I've heard it mentioned on a couple different podcasts. CNET's Buzz Outloud for one. I think it was mentioned on TWiT before I stopped listening. - Cyrus Lendvay
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Sverige: Hakan Dahlstrom posted a link
July 9 at 11:43 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
Någon mer som är på Last.fm? - Hakan Dahlstrom via Bookmarklet
Jag har inte haft tid att testa Last.fm. Verkar användbart. - Svartling
Jag kör last.fm sen 1-2 år sådär. Ganska kul, fast kan inte säga att jag använder det direkt. Mest kul att ha lite koll på vad man lyssnat på. Stuckish heter jag där iallafall. - Ola Johansson
Nästan dagligen. Någon som är en betalande kund också? Är lite sugen. - Rutger Blom
Använder det ungefär som Ola. Om jag lyssnar på musik direkt genom last.fm så tycker jag det blir ganska mycket upprepning. Ett tag fick de dock för sig att jag gillade franska och belgiska schlagers från 50-talet... Intressant, men inte riktigt min smak. - Henrik Johansson
@henrik: Dock är världens bästa schlager genom tiderna från belgien på 50-talet (tror jag) .. hmm .. va heter den nu igen. Äh .. lyckas inte ens google upp den. - Ola Johansson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... <- där hade vi den .. tokigt bra. - Ola Johansson
Jag finns här: http://www.lastfm.se/user/aczi... - Har dock inte använt det så mycket sedan jag började köra Spotify. - Daniel Falk
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Adam Helweh posted a message
July 8 at 11:49 pm - Link
Yeah, I've noticed the same. I think the rep he gets is largely unfair - Matt Baron
I think I want to add Louis Gray to that list as well. I've noticed him making the rounds participating in everyone's conversations. He is a new name to me, but I like his level of involvement. - Adam Helweh
+1 for LG - Hao Chen
he seems real good-natured and works hard at what he does. can't knock that - Cee Bee
LG and the Scobelizer are real people. If I ever meet either of them in RL, I'm buying coffee. - Harvey Simmons
Ditto to that. They both seem like cool guys. - Shawn Farner
Thanks for the props guys. I have met Robert, and he does pay for dinner. And you can find both our cell phones on our blogs. I'm surprised mine isn't abused more often. - Louis Gray
Yeah, you're right - no doubt. - Zee at WeDoCreative
I met Scoble before I had any real notion of who he was/what his reputation was, so I'll always be influenced by my first impression of him just being a super nice dude. I also think a lot of the negative attitudes about him stem from his tendency to not completely adhere to the concept that the notable voices in the crowd are supposed to exercise all sorts of discretion before saying "This is the coolest thing ever," but I think we can all relate to geeking out about something new, cool and different. - Ryan MF
Ryan: sorry, I love technology, especially when it's done well and I'm going to get excited and rant and rave about it until you all can't put up with me anymore. :-) - Robert Scoble
Louis: it's time to do another dinner. The house is even baby proofed! - Robert Scoble
Regardless of whether its technology, the web, or startups....Scoble has been inspiring (however cliche that sounds) to those who want to immerse themselves in what they are passionate about. Scoble, when can I treat you to sushi? - Adam Helweh
Adam: sushi? You better be careful there. Louis knows I can eat a TON of sushi. :-) I'm always up for sushi, though, although the next month is really crazy. - Robert Scoble
Ummm... I'm a fairly big dude and my name is "Secret Sushi". Do you think you will beat me? I think not. I will also be at a few places you have on your calendar. Maybe we can connect for a quick meal. Lets invite Louis. Please don't tell me you only eat California rolls. :0) - Adam Helweh
I think Robert is a sweetheart! I love what he brings to the IT community. - Daynah
Daynah, love you too! Wow, what a nice thing to say. - Robert Scoble
I totally agree. I am a nobody and Scoble is subscribed to me. He's one who truly believes in conversing and engaging with the crowd, and is not selective in friendfeeding. I truly learnt a great deal from him. As I see it, some folks are however more concern about maintaining popularity than being truly social.. - Winston Teo
definitely. robert scoble is everyone's best friend. it is soooooo nice compared to all the huge egos out there. I hope last guys dun finish last!! - ming yeow
I honestly did not expect this conversation to go on for this long. Guess a few people agreed with me. - Adam Helweh
ming: who said I didn't have a huge ego? I really appreciate the kind words here, though. I needed them when I got home tonight. I want to share them with Corvida and Louis Gray, two people who inspire me. - Robert Scoble
@secretsushi - with all these oversized egos like 1938media, shel israel, mike arrington, marc canter blah blah blah, it is turning into hollywood. It is just great to have Robert Scoble around! - ming yeow
Scoble, don't get me wrong. I *love* your attitude. The typical straight-laced, dry tech commentary gets on my nerves most of the time. I relate much more to (and feel that tech lends itself to) the approach of: "This new thing could be the biggest deal ever, or it could be nothing at all, but let's all get stoked about it, discover as much as we can, and push it to its limits. If it doesn't work out, something newer and cooler will be out next week anyway." - Ryan MF
Ryan: you got it. That's exactly why I like Louis Gray so much. - Robert Scoble
@Ryan MF thats called "passion". Discretion goes the way of the wind when your emotions take over. That usually happens when your excited about what your doing. I know that happens often with me. Thats a manifestation of the internal love for what your doing. - Adam Helweh
Adam, I completely agree. There's an argument to be made that as the gatekeepers of this geeky mess to the rest of the normal humans out there, that there has to be some discretion shown so that they'll believe us when we say "No, seriously, this is actually going to change the world." But ultimately, there has to be someone saying "Screw it, let's give it a shot." I'm glad it's Scoble. - Ryan MF
@Ryan MF: Not only do I like his attitude, I'm impressed. How on earth could a person be raving about some little technical thingy no-one has heard about yet while commenting on FF and his blog and interviewing some important people in the industry at the same time. I think Scoble is a group of people (clones?) :) - Melle Gloerich
Melle: we're a mesh! :-) - Robert Scoble
@Scoble: I for one welcom our Scoble-mesh overlord :P - Melle Gloerich
I'm an "outsider" and definitely NOT on the inside like most of you guys but there's room for both sides of the tech celebrity community...I tend to skew more towards the harder edge of the spectrum, Rev3 - GETV - Giantbombcast - Diggnation - FSJ, etc, not afraid to mix in an F-bomb here and there but sometimes I like the sweet and safe of TWiT - Cali Lewis - BOL - Amber Mac - etc. but no matter if sweet or salty, censorship and "exaggerating the truth" in the name of "being PC" really SUCKS ASS...my .02 - Live4Soccer
Carlos: I can't quite figure out what you're trying to say there. - Robert Scoble
@Carlos: I dont really see any difference between those two groups. "Safe" doesnt really have anything to do with it. Neither does being PC. This conversation evolved into an appreciation for people like Scoble who "eat their own dogfood". - Adam Helweh
He isn't subscribed to me - LOL. That's okay. I still like the guy because he hung around my daughters and talked to them like a human. Robert's a great human and Being Human on the Internet is important. - LPH
LPH: I'm subscribed now! Are you going to CES next year again? - Robert Scoble
Carlos sounds like h's on the harder edge of drugs too. What the heck are you trying to say?? Lol... - Zee at WeDoCreative
I just like to echo those comments , despite the enormous river of email,Tweets,comments,he must get in a day. He still reaches out to the little guy. I like his passion. Not sure where he gets all the time/energy. Maybe having a toddler has something to do with it. - fotographic
Hate to burst your bubble, but what if it is only a script that subscribes back automatically? - Tichy
Tichy: nothing I do is automated or scripted. - Robert Scoble
Robert: CES is always the wrong week - last year school started and administrators insisted I couldn't go - this year - I'm crossing my fingers ! It would be Bird's last chance before she starts College - LPH
Absolutely agree - I'm just a home-based Virtual Assistant garnering some success from my Joomla, design and SEO knowledge and a geek who loves playing with all the new toys... When Robert grabbed my FF, I nearly did a spit take...me? <grin> He rocks and I hope to meet him someday. - Cheryl Allin
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Sverige: Hakan Dahlstrom posted a message
July 8 at 10:55 pm - Link
Jag har hört att Tele2 har något riktigt billigt datapaket, nånstans runt 40 kr. Beror väl lite på om du vill ha unlimited data, vilken täckning som är bäst för dig på de platser du rör dig på och om du behöver HSPA osv. Tre tar 199 kr i månaden för fri data ialla fall. - Markus Olausson
Har försökt hitta info och villkor om Tele2:s erbjudande men hittar inget på webben. Telia tar också 199:-/mån vilket är lite mer än vad jag tänkt mig. Vill helst landa på typ max 99:-/mån. Gemensamt för de flesta operatörers planer/abonnemang är att de passar mitt utnyttjande av mobilen väldigt dåligt. - Hakan Dahlstrom
Jag kör Tre och har en tilläggstjänst för 99:-/månad där 1 GB data ingår. - Daniel Falk
Kör också Tre med en tilläggstjänst som heter Mobilsurf. Betalar 99:-/månad, obegränsad datatrafik. Max hastighet 384Kbit/s. - Rutger Blom
Om man har Telia som bredbandsleverantör kan man få mobilt bredband för 99 kr. Det kanske även gäller för mobiltelefoner? - Svartling
Tyvärr gäller det inte för mobiltelefoner. Har ringt och kollat för det lät smaskigt annars. - Hakan Dahlstrom
Ok. Vad synd. Jag har i alla fall mobiltbredband från Telia för just 99 kr :) - Svartling
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haha "put boobs in my thumbnails? I'm not sayin' no... but no" - Ryan Junee via Alert Thingy
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mashable posted an entry on Mashable!
July 3 at 5:15 am - Link
This is disturbing... - Nick Nogueira
lol, nice one, judge stanton. can you say non-sequitur? google, appeal plz. thank you. - Wolfsbayne
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Rachel L Fisher posted a link
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July 2 at 12:18 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
Those are amazing. These two are far and away my favorites: http://de.trinixy.ru/pics3/200... and http://de.trinixy.ru/pics3/200... - Kevin Fox
Kevin, I almost chose that second link for the three shown photos. very cool! - Rachel L Fisher
these are fantastic, just wish they had higher resolution versions available - Adam Kazwell
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Sverige: Hakan Dahlstrom posted a message
June 28 at 11:19 pm - Link
Ja jag har inte hittat många svenska användare... - Svartling
Jag är här, i alla fall *S* - ivanandersson
Undrar desamma :/ Vi får köra lite värvning på några av de aktiva twitteranv. Btw, skriver detta i FF's nya iphone version. Mycket läckert och smidigt. - Björn Israelsson
fftogo funkar också bra på övriga mobiler :) - Svartling
Ska prova iphone-interfacet i min Nokia och se om det kan fungera även där. - Hakan Dahlstrom via Alert Thingy
Jag är också här... - Daniel Falk
Välkommen Daniel. Kul att se fler och fler poppa upp här. - Hakan Dahlstrom
Ja kul att vi lyckats samla ihop några svenskar. Hoppas fler ser detta. - Svartling
Nää .. vädligt få. Jag hade ingen varje sig i gmail eller på fejjan.. - Ola Johansson
Jag är här! :) - Rebkin
Nyligen registrerad. Det ser ju lovande ut det här... - Markus Olausson
Såg precis det här rummet... - Henrik Johansson
Välkommen Henrik! - Svartling
Det finns många. Gå till Joakim Jardenberg's Subscriptions så hittar ni hela Sverige gänget - ivanandersson
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Paul Buchheit posted a link
June 23 at 7:42 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
Go Gmail! "The cost savings are substantial. The Outlook/Exchange platform involved a AU$33 million contract and took four years to go live, although it’s unclear why it took so long. The Gmail/Google Apps rollout, which is being completed by subcontractors, will cost just $9.5 million and should be live by the end of 2008. User storage will increase from 35 MB to 1 GB." - Paul Buchheit via Bookmarklet
Sounds like a no-brainer to me. - Tad - just Tad
wow! - JA Castillo
So they hired the worlds LEAST competent exchange admin? - Soulhuntre via twhirl
Administering 1.5 million exchange mailboxes may be harder than it sounds (and of course it's a government contract, so...) - Paul Buchheit
That is quite a shift. I wonder if this is the first of more massive moves to Google Apps if this scales well. - Paul Jacobson via twhirl
email what is that? - Noah David Simon
This is small compared to the rest of Gmail, so scaling isn't an issue. - Paul Buchheit
Has anyone ever played Warcraft and clicked on a sheep until it exploded? That's what I want to do with the "like" button on this link. - J. Phil
My guess is that the Exchange contract involved having many local servers and administrators (managed by Unisys), while the Gmail contract involves just letting Google do all the work in the US with SMS only doing the local integration. This is all fine and dandy until some ship cuts the submarine cable to your continent and your email doesn't work for a week. - Gabe Schaffer
I work tangentially to this stuff.. the next step has to be a Apps rollout (or at least replacing Office with OpenOffice) - Nick Lothian
Of course, if the submarine cable gets cut, email won't work anyways. - Jim Norris
Presumably they're spending millions of AU$ so the students can email teachers and other students. One would hope the Exchange-based system wouldn't require transoceanic cables for teachers to email their students. With Gmail you can't even edit a draft without a decent Internet connection to some Gmail datacenter. - Gabe Schaffer
There may be datacenters in Australia by now. - Paul Buchheit
All your mail are belong to us. - l0ckergn0me
Australia has something like a dozen undersea cables connecting it to a variety of destinations in Asia and the Americas. Events that would disconnect Australia from the world, or shut down Google's data centers, are so much more rare than Exchange downtime that it's not even worth talking about. There are plenty of valid reasons to prefer locally served email over a hosted solution, but undersea cable cuts aren't one of them. - ⓞnor
Gmail is a great choice, but the funny thing is that Exchange seems like a really awful choice for this situation. To give email to a million students, it seems like some big-ass conventional IMAP servers would be a lot cheaper and easier to manage. Maybe they were sold a bill of goods about how Exchange/Outlook would integrate with educational courseware? - ⓞnor
The problem really comes down to local vs. hosted services. The article techcrunch incorrectly quoted said the email would be hosted by Google overseas, meaning there are dozens more points of failure (a submarine cable being merely one). My guess is that it was Unisys (the low bidder in 2003) that chose Exchange as the platform, and that SMS (the low bidder this year) chose Gmail. I would also guess that there is no SLA in the contract. - Gabe Schaffer
gmail is so much more reliable then anything microsoft could ever manage in underfunded corporate IT environments - why even try and compare - ben rogers via twhirl
What does a GMail/Google Apps "rollout" involve? I'm assuming it must be some sort of customisation/integration? - Mike Gardiner
Gmail may be 100% reliable, but that doesn't matter because the Internet isn't even close to reliable. All it takes is one kid running BitTorrent to make every student in the school (or district) unable to access email. - Gabe Schaffer
Does it frequently happen that you can't get to Google because some kid is running BitTorrent? - ⓞnor
Kids these days are spoiled. I remember using 'ed' and 'mail'. We used to have to get up at 5am and lick the street clean wi't toungue but we were 'appy. - Andy C
Of course, if the University was really clever, they could have secured 1.5 million free Gmail invites and saved a further $9.5 million. - Andy C
*like* @Andy C's comment - sebmos
@ⓞnor - bittorrent isn't too much of a concern AFAIK in most schools. What is the big concern is the cost of bandwidth. Telstra (the incumbent duopolist) signed a lot of schools up to very expensive contracts with capped bandwidth (esp in remote areas). It's expensive enough that at some schools they disconnect the internet once the cap is reached (although this isn't in NSW AFAIK) - Nick Lothian
@Andy C: Google Apps has features that not possible with unaffiliated accounts: integration with organizaton's user directory, single sign on and more. - Gary Burd
@Gary: I know. It was a weak attempt at humour. Next time I will append a smiley. - Andy C
It doesn't matter whether it's a broken cable, BitTorrent, a misbehaving router, or any of the dozens of other causes that could make the Internet unreliable; the point is that the Internet is inherently unreliable. Anything that relies on the Internet will eventually fail, and at some point it will fail the day before the big project is due or the final exam, and there won't be anything the school will be able to do about it. - Gabe Schaffer
Yeah, but it's all about failure rates. Everything fails sometimes, including Exchange servers. Microsoft themselves, for example, have suffered *weeks* long company wide email outages while they struggle to repair broken Exchange installations. If I cared about reliable access to my mail, I know which one I would pick. And there's no secret mystery failure here: you can just ask people "is it OK if your email is approximately as available as Google?". They know how available that is to them. - ⓞnor
I don't know about you, Onor, but I check Gmail dozens of times each day; I use the rest of Google perhaps 3 times a day. The reason I still use Outlook (instead of forwarding that email to Gmail) is that some mail I need access to even when there's no Internet. - Gabe Schaffer
@gabe: imap with gmail. you can get a local snapshot if you want without the hassle of having to manage an email system. - Ashwin Bharambe
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l0ckergn0me posted a message
June 8 at 8:01 pm - Link
Says the myspace poop picture posting Pirillo :) - Bwana McCall
I believe you can find a greasemonkey script that does this... http://userscripts.org/scripts... - Phil Crissman
I agree! but, ideally, I'd love to be able to expand AND collapse them, so I can see what it is, but collapse it back to hide the really long, ugly ones. - Kenneth LeFebvre
Summize.com has the best implementation of this IMHO. - Daniel Shaw
The "expand" trick that Summize uses would be greatly appreciated - Jamie
Turn on tinyurl preview? - Bwana McCall
@Phil: that greasemonkey script looks perfect for the expand half of my wish... of course, I had to turn off greasemonkey because it seemed to be causing some extra crashes in Firefox 3... :( - Kenneth LeFebvre
Yes, try the Greasemonkey script that Phil Crissman points out. - Mike Reynolds
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Louis Gray posted a link
Kevin Fox of Gmail & FriendFeed on User Experience Design
Kevin Fox of Gmail & FriendFeed on User Experience Design
June 2 at 10:37 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
A great, extremely detailed article Q&A with Kevin. Stop what you're doing and read this now. I don't want to see any comments for another 15 minutes until you've read this unless you can prove previous comprehension from having already seen it. - Louis Gray
"A site that visibly promotes how many ’friends’ you have turns friends into commodities, creating an economy where you are motivated to make as many friends as you can. " There goes all my feature requests for a more robust stats section of the site. - Mark Trapp
Mark, I have that very quote in my clipboard, but I admit, I was going to say it's one of my favourite things about FF. :) - felix
All right, after reading it fully, I never realized Kevin Fox was like the Jonathan Ive of Google Apps. What a loss for Google. I enjoyed the rationale behind why labels exist: never thought of it like that. Most people explain it as "It's better than folders. Now be quiet!" - Mark Trapp
Love the old Google logos! Sounds like FriendFeed has a very promising UI guy on the team. Yay... The "You said earlier you found 6 types of users for Gmail. What were those? .... No comment. ;-)" is remnants of a less-open philosophy though. - Mitchell Tsai
"People talking to people facilitated by computers." I believe that about sums up this whole social networking thing ;-) - Paul Short
Sprague, but it could definitely be applied to things like Twitter, where people subscribe to thousands of others in hopes that they get a reciprocal follower count bump, and let's not forget about Jason Calacanis vying for top spot on twitter follower activity. The ability to get into follower competitions is facilitated by seemingly benign statistics about follower counts. - Mark Trapp
@Kevin: Great interview, though the pic above looks like a promo for "Kevin Fox's Chiller Theatre Macabre 3000" :-) - Chris Reed
Mark: When looking at Jason Calacanis's stats this morning http://friendfeed.com/e/bf02d8..., I was surprised to find that almost 45-50% of his readers are age 3-17, VERY different from Robert Scoble and Leo Laporte's age demographics. Is that because of how Jason went about gathering followers? Through the MySpace and Facebook communities maybe? - Mitchell Tsai
I like the flat hierarchy of titles @ friendfeed, I'm a UI Designer, so of course I look up to kevin's work. Any user experience person should be as flexible and willing to contribute more than interaction sketches. I super like, super karma, super kudos this entry if friendfeed had those UI elements :) - Karl
This is madness!! Folks you can't be serious! I'm sure it's a big joke or something... :) - directeur
I'm curious how one gets photos to show (as above) in this type of FF entry. - Greg Clinton
Greg, it's using the FF bookmarklet. When you use it, you can click on a picture to add it to your post. - Vince DeGeorge
Awesome article. I'm really enjoying reading about user interface design, even though I've never really done it. Very inspiring stuff here. - Harvey Simmons
Mitchell: Was it 3-17, or 13-17? If it's the former, that's awesome. And I would agree with that hypothesis: when Calacanis is active on Twitter, he's constantly demanding people react to whatever he's doing, either via comments or follows or whatever. I do know a few months ago he had a goal to get higher than Scoble in followers on Twitter, as well. - Mark Trapp
Thanks, Vince, it really brightens up the page. - Greg Clinton
Three cheers for Kevin. :-) - Jason Wehmhoener
Mark: 3-17 (but 12-17 was about 90% of the whole 3-17). See Calacanis chart stored here http://picasaweb.google.com/Mi... or the live one here http://quantcast.com/calacanis... - Mitchell Tsai
How does it even know that? You can't legally track someone's data if they under 13 to begin with. - Mark Trapp
Not only am I a happy user of all of the products mentioned in this article, as a UI designer I often find myself referring to these products in design discussions with my teams. - Jason Wehmhoener
Mark: No clue... Maybe Quantcast does some estimating based on subsampling to fix the raw data? (e.g. conduct in-person interviews on a random subsample of the population) - Mitchell Tsai
Seriously, you're doing all this for a thesis? a PhD? WHY? I mean... Are you "sciencizing" and "theorizing" socialmedia? All this is so ephemerous, so humanly erronous and lying, It doesn't deserve nobody's time and efforts... - directeur
directeur, maybe this isn't the community for you. - Mark Trapp
Mark: Let me very friendly don't agree :) Because in THIS community you have to study these things to be admitted? (no trolls, nothing, just a notice) - directeur
@directeur what is it exactly that you're talking about? - Shey
reading this was like...read, read, *lightbulb*, read, read, *lightbulb*, *lightbulb*, read, *lightbulb*.... - Iain Baker
@Shey: I was wondering on the life in a socialmedia context, I find it so exagerated to study things like Scoble/Dupont/Smith followers and such... I asked if it's for a thesis... because if not, I'm really wondering how come I feel the only one to think that it's exagerated and somehow strange behavior... - directeur
What, exactly, is exaggerated or strange about it? - Mark Trapp
Mark: saying "Calacanis chart" for example, I find it exagerated... I wonder about the need to study this... You are free to do whatever you want!! I'm just wondering, I wanted some exaplanations, I really needed to know why would someone like me or you spend time on studying a so vague and IMHo useless thing as the "Calacanis chart"... I may be wrong, so please correct me if i'm wrong - directeur
directeur, you jumped into the middle of a conversation between a few of us about a specific part of the story: calling what we're doing strange, exaggerated, stupid, silly, or any other abusive term isn't constructive. Think of this like real life: how would you feel if someone interrupted a conversation you were having with someone to tell you that what you're talking about is stupid and wrong and exaggerated? - Mark Trapp
Hey look! It's an interview with Kevin Fox! ;-) - Jason Wehmhoener
Mark: My bad, sorry, I though that the discussions here were open to everyone. and indeed they are, but it's still my fault, why the heck have I the need to share my own opinions? Sorry. - directeur
Thanks for the feedback everyone! Directeur: Mark said it very well: The discussions are open and you're free to say what you like, but so are other people. If you come in and harshly criticize others, you have to accept the reality that others will harshly criticize you back. It's just like the real world. - Kevin Fox
Kevin, I was wondering, like any "mediterranean" usually do, maybe it's my english, but I never meant to be harsh... anyway.. Sorry again! - directeur
directeur: No worries. I appreciate your comments, and love that we're getting such diverse international usage! - Kevin Fox
I'm so impressed that Bret set up and configured everything before your first day. That says a lot. - Ginger Makela
I like the concept of everyone having the same title. Excellent read. I have learned something. - Mathew A. Koeneker
@Ginger That says Bret has no need for a Field Tech person to me. ;) - Erica Baker
I like the photo. Kevin's got the classic visionary staring-into-the-distance pose but at the same time he has this critical are-you-sure-this-is-right expression. It's the heroic UI reviewer. - ⓞnor
I call that look "Magnum" - Kevin Fox
Oh! Oh! Now do "Blue Steel" - April Buchheit
If you roll over the thumbnail above, it changes to me doing "Blue Steel". - Kevin Fox
oooh... when do we get to see Le Tigre and Ferrari? - Ross Miller
So cute to see April's picture pop up over her name. :-) - Mitchell Tsai
83 likes on this article (so far). Kevin, you're quite the popular fellow. - Louis Gray
Awesome article. Had it in one of my browser tabs all day, finally got around to reading it. Kevin - you designin' fool! You've had a hand in some really great projects. - Hutch Carpenter
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May 27 at 2:26 am - Link
I'd love to know how you think I should answer Bob Bly's letter in this post. - Robert Scoble
there is productivity and then there is productivity. It depends on where you are standing, and how you define it. I always had a bad conscience when checking out Twitter, Flickr or Facebook. But not anymore. I have gathered so much knowledge about social networks. I thought I was being procrastinating, but I was being productive all the time. Now when considering something I say, to scoble or not to scoble :-) - Baard (not bored)
i don't get this discussion. Scoble does all the stuff he does cause it's his job. It's like asking a dude who reviews books if all that book reading is a time waster. - Stan Schroeder via twhirl
Stan: I was doing it long before it was my job. I've been playing with new things ever since I helped unbox an Apple II in my Jr. High in 1977. - Robert Scoble
we are doing all of these stuff because we like to do. - ahmet bulent
damn twhirl. Anyway, @Scoble: then it was your hobby. Same thing. A guy who's not interested in all this stuff should simply pick and choose what he likes and forget about the rest - Stan Schroeder via twhirl
Totally agree to the meaning of goals and motivation. That's why people are different and everyone is unique. - Carsten Ringe via Alert Thingy
Stan: I think it goes deeper than that. People who aren't looking to learn new things bug me for some reason. It's like they are celebrating their ignorance and their willingness to stay ignorant. I had a father-in-law who loved telling me he never touched a computer and never would. I found that fascinating. - Robert Scoble
Its not his (scobles) job unless he wants it to be his job. I think in Bobs case he might be unproductive if he was engaging in all those activities that Scoble spends his time on. It all depends on what you want to get out of your day/life? It all depends on who you are and what you do. I thin what bob is asking might apply to him or people who are not directly ingrained in creating technology. - Akshay Dodeja
I'll give you a simple analogy. Let's imagine that you're a car fanatic. You tweak your car every day, and it goes faster. You get to work at least 10 minutes faster each day, however, all the tweaking you do takes many hours of your time. A regular guy just sits in his car and drives, and goes to the mechanic when something goes wrong. Who's right and who's wrong here? No one, I say. - Stan Schroeder via twhirl
I've been answering this question a lot lately. Why is twitter better than my message board? Why not just use email? Who has time for that stuff? In my opinion, the fact that they are asking is just another sign that it is becoming more accepted. When my 85 year old grandmother knows what Facebook is, and why my 65 year old mom living in BFE knows what MySpace is, that is the definition of mainstream. - Robert Peterson
Btw, the nickname i sometimes use, "frantic" comes from my frantic desire to learn everything there is to know about a topic (i get this 2 times per week at least). So I get where you're coming from. But, not everyone is like that. - Stan Schroeder via twhirl
Stan: I understand that, but that's not what I'm talking about. I drive a car and don't care about tinkering with it, taking it apart, and all that, but I'm not going to celebrate my ignorance of it. If someone says "hey, here's a way to get more enjoyment out of your car" I'll at least listen and see if it interests me. Even if it doesn't, I'm not going to celebrate the fact that I'm ignorant. Like "I'll never see why we need Hybrid cars, my Hummer works just fine." - Robert Scoble
Good analogy, Stan. Although if you are tweaking your car, most likely you enjoy doing that. Even though you are loosing "productivity time" while tweaking you are expanding your knowledge. That knowledge has a worth to you as a car tweaker and would be worth nothing to another person. As you said tho no one is right or wrong. Just depends on how you look at it :) - Akshay Dodeja
Stan, you're analogy is great. - Timothy Neilen
@Scoble: Well, some people just go through life without knowing anything about anything. Don't think you can change that, either (;. - Stan Schroeder via twhirl
This is very normal for those who did not discover the potential of social networks, or whether the same technology. I live here and in Latin America is very common that everyone do the same question as Bob, but you have to have a lot of patience to explain the possibilities that the experience provides. The examples you gave were very good to try to explain to Bob and the list can continue. - Cesar Sanchez
Stan: a more accurate analogy is I come over with my new car that has GPS and a navigation system and you run on and on about how you'll never own a car with a GPS or a navigation system. I just don't like hanging around people like that. I guess we have Amish who still drive around in horse and carriage for a reason, though, but I won't choose to hang around with them, sorry if that makes me a jerk. I just don't like people who celebrate remaining in the past. - Robert Scoble
@Scoble: those same people who run on and on about not trying new things will buy those same things when they read it in the newspapers. Capitalism: replacing innovative thinking since 19th century. - Stan Schroeder via twhirl
I don't think I can improve on the original post (at all) but I follow these things to pursue my ambitions. It's that simple. And my ambitions (video game design) require that I stay current with the times. I just happen to have a blast doing it. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to find out what Flickr is. - Avery Tingle
Bob is sadly very typical in my limited experience. It's like some people are proud of being and remaining ignorant. They have no curiousity and are stuck in their old ways. I'm a scientist; I love finding new things and simply cannot fathom why other people aren't equally fascinated. - Sally Church
Robert, i think you are being untypically nasty to good old BOB BLY. by the end of your long blog post you might of well called him a beer drinking TV watching ignorant slob. he says: -------"Can you help an old guy from the old school understand what he’s missing? - P.S. Your column is well written and there are obviously a legion of people who get all this stuff. I’d like to see if I could become one of them or at least understand what all the fuss is about."------- i don't think you answered him... - djp
Your post says it all. Thanks. My experience as someone coming from the non-tech world is that I need to defend the amount of time I spend in social networking on a daily basis. As an artist, I see this is THE new medium, not sure how it will manifest new work but very sure this is it. And that excites me and keeps me listening, talking when I think I have something to contribute, but present most days. Some of my friends don't get it and most don't participate. Oh well. More will be revealed. ;-) - Mary Anne Davis
djp72: fair enough. So, put yourself into my shoes. How would you answer it? - Robert Scoble
i think you took it too personally when BOB BLY says "I don’t have any of it — for that matter, I don’t own a Blackberry, iPod, wireless laptop, or even a cell phone — and I get along fine without them."------- your rant doesn't actually prove your point, if i put myself in Bob's beer stained shoes for a second, i'm sure he's sitting there going "i was right.... this is all about nothing...." - djp
djp72: again. One more time. Answer the damn question then. How would you answer it? Stop attacking me and answer the question! - Robert Scoble
one last point Robert, imagine if Bob was your uncle, or old high school mate, or someone you knew, i'm sure you wouldn't end up being all sarcastic and calling him ignorant. i'm sure you'd take your time and explain and answer his questions... sorry for the long comment out of the blue, it just struck me as a tad sooky..... - <