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I left Twitter for Jaiku. Then Jaiku left me for Google. I moved in with Pownce but it died. I went back to Twitter, but flirted with Plurk, Identica, and Rejaw, and even tried doing it myself with Laconica but it was Twitter I really loved. Twitter finally broke my heart so I left it for Friendfeed. Now Friendfeed is leaving me for Facebook. No...

August 11 - Comment - Like - Share

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It's like the internet version of Days of Our Lives - Jon, the Chilled Beartato

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HAHAHAHAHA.... - David from IM

Haha. ROFL - Roberto Bonini

is friendfeed going anywhere or will it just get better? - Craig Shipp

I'm with you Leo. - Oracio

It reads better than Soap - my roadmap is very similar but I'll forgive FF and live happily ever after with it (for the time being, anyway) - Nicholas Paul Gordon from iPhone

You're the best Leo. Canadians are the funniest people. - Dan Lessard

I'm betting they'll slowly digest it into the Facebook news feed. They claim that Friendfeed is staying put for now, but that won't last. - Ken Bauer

And we keep following Leo all over the place! - Robert Scoble

Long live Leo - Randy Pollock

When will we all get in a long term relationship and stop getting our hearts broken? - Nate Pilling

so what is more important, the medium or the people, hope that FF will let us export our content, and our social netork :) (in my wild dreams) - abdellah

Need ice cream? I'm new to FF, and kind of sad I didn't jump on the proverbial wagon sooner! - Elizabeth K. Barone

I hope you leave your standard breadcrumbs so we can find you in the next chapter of social interaction. - jcunwired

Feels to me like maybe it's time to go back to building a distributed network, rather than hopping from service to service. - Ken Sheppardson

But where to next? That's the question. Wave sounds great, but the implementation will be a PAIN. So where? Oh LeoMoses...where is our path in the desert? - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift

Sounds like a hurtin' country song in the making. - Bill Rodman

The wave of the future is wave - Randy Pollock

Well you can't say that what is happening in the 'social sphere' is boring by any means! - Matt Cassem

I think Leo's audience is more likely to click "Like" or "comment" than Scoble's is. When Leo and Rob are both posting on FF, Leo gets more likes and comments - Mark

Didn't you leave a post earlier saying how funny it was that people complain anytime there's a change (referring to the FF buyout)? This sounds like a complaint to me. - Fleagle

Not complaining - just thinking about the future. I think a little Friendfeed DNA will vastly improve Facebook. And I think Facebook is already the big winner with the general populace. I also think we geeks need a corner somewhere else to hang out in. - Leo Laporte

And I have no plans to leave Friendfeed. Yet. - Leo Laporte

Yet being the operative word..... - Roberto Bonini

sounds like a country song to me - gavin

As for this geeky alternative, http://a.tinythread.com/ just showed up in my feed this morning. Thoughts? - Craig B.

I feel more of a personal connection with the FriendFeed team than I have with other services I've left, and that will be a big part of why I will stay as long as possible. - Louis Gray

^^^ replace "team" with "community" and there's my reason for sticking it out. - jcunwired

Its also going to take a very long time to go through content and bookmark/store it elsewhere. Evernote is going to be used heavily in the weeks to come. - jcunwired

The only way to have control is to use your own URL - Craig Shipp

Wait till you meet Facebook's randy cousin Overly Friendly Book =) - Cynthia Yildirim

what Louis gray said. I'm going to hang around until the lights go out. - Jordan Brock from BuddyFeed

What they said, I don't see any reason to leave FriendFeed unless something actually changes that makes the service worthless to me. - Craig B.

And many times you cheated Twitter, she was always loyal to you. Thats mean someting! - Jacque from f2p

yup me too Louis and I don't know any of them - Thomas Power

Plurk's not worth leaving anyone for. - Rachel R.

Leo, I think you need to change your FaceFeed status to "It's Complicated" ;) - Daynah

Play this thread off, keyboard cat. - Fleagle

You have to go back to your blog. It still loves you Leo. - Dave Winer

Screw you, Friendfeed! - Andrew Leahey

Users today are investors too - only the 'exit' for us is not lucrative.... its the other way sometimes :) - Mrinal Desai

I just had the idea: wow, how good will Faceboook become though this input? (JUST imagine tagging ppl in FB the way U can Tag them in FF.) - oliver gassner

Love Stinks. - shelter watch

I'm quite surprised that you could keep track of all that! - Robert Alex

Leo Laporte listed his relationship as: "its complicated." - Randy Shapiro

Damn thats complicated - drmacintosh

Don't worry Leo, its not you, its them... - Steven McGurn

so where do we go now? - Brian Appleby

I agree with Jonathan Hardesty "It's like the internet version of Days of Our Lives" - And sites keep getting killed off only to come back to life a month later! - Amy Flynn

very true, however on the other hand, we are getting closer to that one service which everyone will be on... and I dont think twitter is going to be that one - Bryce Campbell

Facebook buying FriendFeed is like having to MOVE just when you got your house all dressed up and made into a comfy HOME! I don't feel like doing it again! - Arleen Anderson

Now that Facebook and Friendfeed have married, I'm waiting for Twitfacefeedplebospacening. - Anthony Marco

You all just have ants in your pants :) - Jeunelle Foster

Leo, u by your self made two companies (services) out of 3 famous and made Google interested enough to buy 2 of them (Jaiku & FF). Google also tried to flirt with Twitter as well. So which one u choose now? Cause we will follow u :P - Sam Ehsan

Sounds like some of my past love affairs. Of course, I'm married now. That, um, was prior. - Paul Chaney

lmfao, its so true leo, so true! - Derek Bender

Feeling a bit worn around the edges? ... me too! - Susan Beebe from iPhone

Speaking of Days Of Our Lives: Didn't that show jump the shark when the serial killer was unmasked as Marlena (a character I used to have a mad crush on, and who's now mostly a professional victim)? Then all the "killed" characters came back to life, since they were only what I call "soap opera dead"... - Dennis Jernberg

And if everyone follows you, then your all having affairs all over the place! LOL - Sandra Large

I think it's back to the TWiT Army! - Paul Salzman

It's not like we have proposed Healthcare reform, or anything really important, going on in the U.S.A. - Steve de Mena

it's getting ridiculous, FEDERATED is the word! - Dobromir Hadzhiev

who is actually leaving FF? have many people vowed to do so yet? I'd like to but there isn't any alternative. - Denise Young

the joys and sorrows of everyday social IT folks... :-) - Thomas Lee

People are talking a lot about Streamy today. Might be an alternative. - Caio Cesar

Streamy seems to be crashing left & right tho. - Rick Cogley

Not to mention Pownce was shutdown as soon as it got good! - Kenneth Reitz

No mention of Microsoft Vine? - Robert MacEwan

yep. welcome to another episode of; As the Stomach Turns. one big soap opera. - Scratch5150

I've decided I'm not going to tell ANYONE which site I'm favoring... not even myself! I swear! As soon as I decided that FF was my new place (a couple months ago) THIS happens! It's like magic, but in a bad bad way... - Mark "DerBingle" J

Why do we all assume this is a bad thing? Maybe the FF Facebook combo will be better?? - Craig Shipp

Maybe they'll keep both open -- FF is the open side, and FB is the closed side. - John Flinchbaugh from IM

Social Networks are sluts? - TheDiva Rockin

It sure is. - Jason Hill

I know exactly how you feel. What's a person to do? I am mad at Twitter for suspending some of my accounts. First, the accounts kept causing the password to reset, then they were suspended, all around the time of the DOS attacks. All I ever used Twitter for was to advertise my businesses, and for fun. Now I don't know where to go. - DogPatch

Here's some thoughts on what's going to happen:http://kennethreitz.com/blog... - Kenneth Reitz

It's like my beloved Archie comics romantic twists from childhood! Archie loves Veronica who loves Reggie who loves Betty who loves Archie... ;) - Shawn Zehnder Lea

More like "As the worm churns" - Houseofmax

한글 와서~ 루거 .. 당신은 정말 잘 생기고있다 누드 사진 기다리다 :] - HealingBrush

One of the funniest sad stories I've heard in a long time... - Aviva Gabriel

Gotta find one who is a lady in public and a whore in the bedroom. One who looks like a woman, but thinks like a man. One who tells you you're the only person in their world and worships the ground you walk on. One who's from Venus but want's to live on Mars. One who you know will always be there even when the chips are down. One who looks like a movie star, but doesn't bust the credit... more... - Jan Simmonds

I think a lot of people LOVE to think negatively and don't want to think positively. They think FB is BAD and will ruin FF, but I think if they do it well, FB won't be the bad guy. I think most people who are irked about this are irked because they think the FFers "sold out" to the "man". - Molly, "sorry"

@Mollyanna - I disagree. I am irked because the future of FF is completely uncertain. It's more likely that FB will let FF flounder and close it down than it is that FB will invest time and resources in maintaining and enhancing FF. FB has other interests and is splitting up the FF dev team. That does not bode well for FF. I don't begrudge the FF devs for taking the money. I would be... more... - Fa La La La Lindsay

Leo, I hope you mention FriendFeed in your Dubai TED talk ! :) I'll try to be there ! - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

@Jan You're an asshat. - Ian Wright from BuddyFeed

leo, check out Streamy.com. I'm actually commenting to friendfeed from there right now...you may like it better. - Casey Petersen

looooool =)) - ★amin.m★

Haiku Laporte - Outsanity

that was cute! :O) - Jeanne

@ian - "Wordsmith. Public relations undergraduate at The University of Texas. Feminist Capitalist. WordPress geek. Future commercial rights attorney"...surely that kind of asinine comment is beneath you! - Jan Simmonds

Maybe they're just not that into you. - Elizabeth Johnson

Wait... who's on first? - Michael Rosenau

Logged in to suggest that many of us have tridden a similar path, but a lot of people have beaten me to it! I miss Pownce - SpionKopRed

wow, Leo. You've got relationship issues! - Justin Bradshaw

there there, Shawny's here... - sofarsoShawn

I sense a pattern here.. maybe you always seem to go after web2.0 services that are bent on ditching you :) - Shivanand Velmurugan

Paul Buchheit

August 10 - Comment - Like - Share

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That's nice. Just random, or in response to something. :) - τorƍue

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Does that mean you got a little sleep? - Anne Bouey

Good news? People like Paul don't usually get in the office so early especially after a lack of sleep, on a Monday morning, if there wasn't a great reason. - Louis Gray

this could be big. - vijay

Aww Man, see now I am not going to get any sleep tonight! DAMN YOU PAUL and your teasing little smiley face. OK, must go and get some coffee! - Travis Koger

O.k., I'll smile too :) (and open my ears and eyes) - Martha

10 bucks says that they add emoticons soon. :) - Joe Beda ()

This emoticon makes a little more sense now... - Stephen Foskett

Guessing this was about the Facebook announcement? - Ben Hedrington

Cheshire cat? - Hutch Carpenter

Good for you, Paul. I can't help but feel a little let down, though. - Matthew Gifford

well done! - michael sean wright

Congrats! Let us (well, our chef) cook you lunch before you're no longer walking distance! :) - Don MacAskill

I have the same feeling as Matthew Gifford... Congrats to you, Paul, but I'm not sure this bodes well for the rest of us. - Fa La La La Lindsay

Congrats, Paul. :-) - Jordan Hofker

Congratulations! - Ethan Herdrick

Congratulations to the whole team, Paul! - Ryan Kuder

yeah they signed away the community :(- - Peter Dawson

Congrats Paul if they're truely in order :) - Jason Cronkhite from iPhone

No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - andy brudtkuhl

congrats to the team, but to be honest i'm not liking it at all - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

Good news or bad news? :) - Arda Çetin

Congrats Paul! I was really hoping this would happen. Friendfeed and Facebook need each other. Cheers! - Akshay Dodeja

Now I get it. Congrats on the $$. - Yolanda

Now I know...and knowing is half the battle - Bwana ☠

:( - TiTi

Congratulations!!!! A 'worthy' smiley ... ;-) - Bo Stern

I think Paul's emoticon was charming and that Louis Gray is either super discerning or super informed. - Michael Muller

Congrats to the FF team you guys are awesome (keep this place awesome) - Ryan

WHAT'VE YOU DONE!!!! THAT'S TOTALLY SH*T! - Ahmet Alp Balkan

http://bit.ly/jC1DE - Bo Stern

congratulations, may your road ahead be smooth... - Nathan Chase

That can imho only mean good things for the FB UI ... - Bo Stern

Congratulations, definitely. - DGentry

congrats! - Peter Warnock

Congrats to you and the entire FF team. I hope you guys are in it for the long haul. - Mike Doeff

hey congrats to the FF team! I look forward to seeing what the future holds - (jeff)isageek

Congratulations Paul & FF team! - Charles Ying

congrats dude - Jason Pollock

:( - Alex Scrivener

Congratulations. - 321

congratulations.. but liked the whole UI & funtionality of ff than fb!! it'll b gone!! - Gtp19

You're totally ::stpd:: - Ahmet Alp Balkan

its business after all, sell it but get back to make a better product for your old users. dont 4get the users !! - Peter Dawson

http://friendfeed.com/sunipey... - sunipeyk

:( - acedanger

the results of good work - Juan Pablo Ruiz

congratulations! - Hareesh Nagarajan

Congrats! - DS

GZ! - Sarp

:) we will learn from the process - abdellah

Paul, will you respond to this? This is *bad* for FF users. Best case: it continues on, but distracted by Facebook and with stagnated feature development. Worst case: it's gone. Middle of the road: Facebook forces its ads into the timeline and friendfeed starts acting like Facebook by ignoring its users. - tollie williams

@tollie, I imagine Paul's ability to respond is now constrained, which is just one of the changes we'll see coming. There's new management in town, folks. - Ken Kennedy

scared!!! - abdellah

Good luck Paul... it's gonna be a great partnership. - Andrew

Congrat's Paul. Great news, and I'm really happy for all of you! - Michael Fidler

Congrats to the whole FriendFeed team! - John McCrea

Way to go Paul - bet you sleep like a baby tonight whilst Biz and Ev scratch their heads once more! - Jan Simmonds

Sure congrats to you!!! - susan mernit

http://friendfeed.com/markzuk...... Hold on! markzukerberg?!?! - Lora Lufark

Congrats! - fbrunel

congratulations! - Loic Le Meur

Congratulations Paul - I am very proud of you... no wonder you couldn't sleep! :) Now we know why! As you know, I am a huge fan of your FriendFeed product. I am very happy for you guys and hope you keep your fabulous culture of innovation going strong. This is really amazing.... nice exit! :) - Susan Beebe

I have been wishing facebook could get more like Friendfeed :) awesome. - Christian Burns from iPhone

Nice job, Paul and team. Congrats! - Rob Shillingsburg

many congrat. from UK. ;) @GarethWong - Gareth

I bet you never forget your anniversary EVER ever now. - Pete Delucchi

boo-urns - Raphael, Raphael

:D - paniaguai

:-( - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Congratulations, great for you and the team. - Rocky

i like the way the deal was done! - Siddharth Parmar

G.Z.s - Ugur Akdmr

Robert Scoble

Oh, FriendFeed is now Facebook’s “official” R&D department! - http://scobleizer.com/2009...

August 10 from Scobleizer - Comment - Like - Share

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My reactions to today's news! - Robert Scoble

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SCOBLE YOU MUST GET THEM TO KEEP FRIENDFEED PURE-- and RUNNING!! AAAGGGH [ i just heard 5 minutes ago. I'm on vacation ] :) - Schneider Mike

Interesting thoughts. - Angus Burton

Bummer - not likely to be an improvement - Internet Strategist

Friendfeed is no longer .. all that's left is the flick of the switch. - John Blanton

It's nice for the FF peeps. They'll see what it's like to deliver new features for a decent size user base. - mrshl

Mike: I wouldn't worry about FriendFeed. I see it as Facebook's R&D department now. We're the test bunnies for what 300 million people will get! :-) - Robert Scoble

Now Friendfeed will be able to go head to head with Google wave! So long as the team are allowed to lead from within Facebook how can this possibly be bad? - Ade Lack

I want a FB test bunny t-shirt ;) - Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)

Nice comments. Also looking forward to realtime search and 300M+ users ... watch that in realtime! My screen will melt I guess. - Peter van Teeseling

I'm only really sad because it completely breaks my on-line life. I'm excited for the FF team and for FB but that's only one aspect and I don't see how it can be merged. - James Myatt

I think it'll make fan pages even cooler. - Gus

Mark: can you verify that this is a real account somehow? Tell us something about what we did in Davos together that I didn't share. - Robert Scoble

Robert, the user name for Zuck misspells his name, just like he misspelled yours. - Louis Gray

Mark, if that is really you. Please don't let people on FB find users on FF. Some of us are looking for the anti-social web. Private groups and no friend requests from long lost classmates was a big plus over here. - Chip Ramsey

Username is "markzukerberg"? .. - Mads Kristiansen

Robert: from what I can tell most FF users do not share your enthusiasm or optimism. From what I can see FriendFeed team members will be absorbed into Facebook R&D, FriendFeed as a property will whither and most will cash out as soon as they can. Do you have some other information that you can share that supports your optimism? - Brian Sullivan

My reactions to today's news! ~ http://ff.im/6pPEE :D - CannonGod

One of the worst things for me is that many employers, including the site I'm working at, block Facebook, but not Friendfeed. - James Myatt

James - www.anonymizer.com/ ? - Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)

Robert: Do you have *any* reason at all to believe that friendfeed will survive as a distinct entity? - Christopher A Carr

How does everyone know what's going to happen? I prefer Rob's tone of "what should happen" - fear vs possibility - Ankush Narula from iPhone

Really interesting perspective you provide here. I was thinking this whole time that this would hit Twitter hard, but I see now that Google might be the real target, because of the whole real-time search. Nonetheless, I love all the Google employees that are hoping facebook becomes more "open" in the process. Something tells me facebook doesn't care about being open, but being a... more... - Rahul Krishnakumar

Christopher: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... It clearly seems that facebook will use friendfeed to be a playground for future features. - Rahul Krishnakumar

Rahul: That's not encouraging. I don't see how you get that from that article. - Christopher A Carr

Wait I owe Scoble an apology. I read several places that he had a financial interest in Friend Feed. That information , if true,clouded my perception of his commentary of FF. If you believed that true, he comes across as a shill trying to protect his investment IMHO. In his blog post he denounces any financial connection. Now I feel stupid because good practices dictate that he would have disclosed such in his writings. I suck sorry Robert. - cheapsuits from iPhone

Hmmm - I keep my FB social, private, and mainly family. I keep FF public and work-oriented only. Will I need two accounts? Or just delicate messing about with privacy controls? I'm not looking forward to shifting - may FF last a long while still. FB is too busy, and FF is lightweight and gives me exactly what I want, with a much cleaner interface. Thanks very much Robert, your blog post is much appreciated! - Allyson Lister

cheapsuits: Robert has said 1,000 + times that he has no financial interest in ff. - Christopher A Carr

Robert, how can you say you don't get how FF users are sad and up in arms? FB's attitudes and culture are different enough for this to be a serious shock. In short, lots of people think FF=good, FB=bad, for better or worse. Your own list of cons is enough to get FF users up in arms. - Don Faulkner

Christopher I see it now. Easy to see what he said when it isn't filtered by FF haters. What more can I say then I suck? I surely am not going to kill myself over it. - cheapsuits from iPhone

Thrilled for Paul, but amused that FB's first big land grab is another biz that isn't monetized properly either! Arrogance or Ignorance? - Jan Simmonds

Jan, FF has some great technology and some great people. It's not about the service itself. - James Myatt

cheapsuits: I'm sure you are forgiven. ;-) - Christopher A Carr

Here's why people are up in arms: I think it's in the company's best interests to keep the properties existing separately ... especially since like you said, it's a geekier community on FF. Why not integrate the cool *features* FF has within Facebook but keep friendfeed.com as-is? - Tamar Weinberg

I agree this is more of a play against Google. I think eventually Twitter and Facebook will team up more to provide real time streams of user updates between the two systems. I wonder if the first step is using FF for the collection of these streams and the next step is acquiring the method of pushing these streams or content. - CodeSamurai

FF = Facebook Labs - Andrew

I like the separate sites and maybe they will allow both options, Facebook is too busy for me and Friend Feed cuts to the chase and I hope we don't see "FaceFeed" with everything combined without options. - MedicalQuack

They got some talented people at FriendFeed. - Kenneth Yeh

Loic Le Meur

I never feel as good and excited as when we release!

August 10 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Well...yeah - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

I think they call that a Freudian slip! ;-) LOL - You and the rest of the male population!!! - Jan Simmonds

John Furrier

siliconANGLE> Friendfeed-Facebook Acquisition: The Positive Side: I’m a firm supporter, us.. http://siliconangle.com/ver2...

August 10 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Thrilled for Paul, but amused that FB's first big land grab is another biz that isn't properly monetized either! Arrogance, Ignorance or Clairvoyance? - Jan Simmonds

Kevin Fox

New Yahoo! Homepage found a way to monetize my site! Too bad I don't get any of the money.

July 21 - Comment - Like - Share

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You mean in terms of the ad next to your content? - Louis Gray

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Yeah. I'm mostly kidding. Plenty of feed aggregators monetize their sites. It's more the placement that makes it feel like it's 'part of my site'. - Kevin Fox

Personally I think this is a step way too far! It's one thing putting cras ads next to your social pages which are made up of all your content, but to hijack your brand like this is pretty patronising. If it were me I'd be screaming nails... - Jan Simmonds

I really feel for the Yahoo! designers. They do fantastic work, but were (and it seems, are) frequently put in the position of 'make this page better, and also incorporate a monster ad above the fold' (yes, 'monster ad' is one of the recognized sizes). If you take out the tacked-on, seemingly non-targeted ads, the new redesign is pretty fresh and clean. - Kevin Fox

Kevin, I agree, I like this design, purple and all. I wonder how the upper-left image ("No preview available") gets filled in. - Stephen Mack

I'd just added the site to my Yahoo home page moments before. I assume it's in a queue right now to have the page downloaded and a thumbnail generated. - Kevin Fox

Matt Singley

@PsychicSophie I want to get an idea of how many people were suspended today, can u ask affected peeps to sign? http://twitition.com/ionve

July 5 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

@famebook suspended on Twitter for no reason - can't vote until restored - Jan Simmonds

Would you be willing to leave a comment here? http://mattsingley.com/blog... - Matt Singley from email

Robert Scoble

@jimcobber I am not a Microsoft employee. I work for Rackspace.

June 19 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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No Zune for you! I Rack myself up sometimes... :-) - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

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bada bing! can u feel the force ;-) - Jan Simmonds

I actually enjoy the Zune too Dave, though with a SmartPhone (WinMo) I don't really need a dedicated player often. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

Dave, I'm using an employer-issued Treo 700 wx, so I know how you feel. Hoping for an upgrade later this summer. - Steve Lowe

Pretty much, but at least it's something. - Steve Lowe

Robert Scoble

I'll be in New York next week. Any innovative company I should see?

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Do you ever get up to Canada much? - Owen Greaves

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Vimeo is in NY - AJ Batac

Boxee - sean andersen

You should swing by Deep Focus. Lunch on me. - Ian Schafer

OMGPOP - Charles Ying

buglabs and fogcreek and tumblr - Darren Stuart

And if your in Times Square and want to see a killer view, swing by the Six Flags office. I'll get you some free tickets you can use at the SanFran or LA parks. - sean andersen

You should go to Winnipeg. Lunch and dinner on me. ;) - AJ Batac

Going to Israel anytime? I want you to visit EZchip (EZCH). Also, Netlogic (NETL) in Mountain View, CA - Stephen Pickering

I wish my startup is in the US. Worked hard for 10 months, and just launched my site for public testing. Check it out if you could: http://65amp.com/alekkus - Alekkus

SesameVault, a start-up B2B web-based video platform is next to Grand Central and Dorthy.com, a start-up media company that's part search, part social network, part media portal is on Wall Street. Holler! - ari

wow, flash. - Janos P Toth

What about the Tumblr folks? - Rob Fahrni

Tumblr would be cool... FogCreek is cool too!! - nickgs

Maybe @fredwilson would have a good suggestion? - Mark Essel

Yes, 65amp is a flash-based mashup application that let everyone mashup their contents. The page is fully customizable, with drag-drop features, rotating, resizing stuffs and changing the styles. The first time you load will take a little while, but subsequent loads will be fast. - Alekkus

ohh FogCreek, I tried out for that team, didn't make the resume cut ;) - Mark Essel

How long are you in New York for? I'll be there Friday night, it's be awesome to grab a drink with Scoble! Also, check out Connected Ventures, the people behind Vimeo and College Humor. Ask them about their TOS. - Mike Nayyar

Yes Preyas Consulting - William Lopez

thumbplay - Amund Tveit

CloudContacts and CenterNetworks :-P - Allen Stern

UpNext is in NYC. We'd be happy to meet with you! We make very fast, smooth 3d interactive maps of cities. NYC is our first city. Here is a vid of our iPhone product: http://www.vimeo.com/4418454 - vadvani@gmail.com

Robert - we (AdaptiveBlue) are in New York and would love to have you to our office to demo you the new version of Glue (you liked Jeremiah O's review of it yesterday :) - Fraser

I second Fraser's suggestion of visiting AdaptiveBlue to see Glue. It has come a long way since we first showed it to you (back when it was called BlueOrganizer). - Andy Roth

Bear Stearns? - Matthew Snape

Hey Robert, I posted your question on the Gildertech board and George Gilder responded "My two favorite New York companies are Gerson Lehrman (the private Google of consultants rather than URLs) and Boliven, a spinoff that makes finding, creating, and comparing patents and intellectual property simple and lawyer free." - George Gilder - Stephen Pickering

Oh, Robert, one member of the board, who is a funny guy, said humorously, "Your first question to him is, why would you leave Half Moon bay to go to NYC?........................flop" hehehehehe. I'm not sure what he meant. Just trying to be funny I guess. - Stephen Pickering

Yes! You should meet with Triton media, they are in NY next week too. They are a one-stop shop for radio stations that offers tools to help them build their digital engagement and drive revenues. Mobile platforms, local search, etc. - Maya Benyehuda

you should catch up with Clare Hart - daniela barbosa

Tumblr for sure! - Ninh Nguyen

Come by Empressr - Bryan Thatcher

chacha ? - AainaA-Ridtz A.R

Are you stopping by at the http://www.web3event.com on T/W by any chance? I'm on the program. All about Semantics. Several Semantic-related companies there. - William Mougayar

hey robert would love to give you demo of new Aviary.com stuff hit me up what day works for you. text MSG to 50500 for my info - michael galpert

Yes, I would go see MSG at Aviary! - Frank Gruber

KickApps would love to have you! We are innovating our bawlzoff! - Mike

Hi Robert - Will you be at Digital Hollywood (Advertising 2.0)? - Jan Simmonds

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Jennifer Fader

John Coltrane - My Favorite Things - 1961 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...

May 30 from YouTube favorites - Comment - Like - Share

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Music to spoon to! - Jan Simmonds

Karoli

Yawn. Why does Mike Arrington annoy me so? Listening to Gillmor Gang. quit apologizing, @gapingvoid

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I think i'll come back for the aftershow. that's where the good stuff happens anyway - Karoli

yeah, the aftershow was quite hot today - Chris Heath

great entertainment ! - Kevin O'Halloran

On the one hand, I'm glad they're passionate & emotional. On the other, I wish they'd cut the diva-style tiffs - Steven Cains

I've long since stopped bothering to listen when he is on. He generally trips the d-bag circuit breaker within a few minutes anyway. Life is too short to spend your precious time with him. - Dave Slusher

My discomfort with Arrington's personal style is tempered by the fact that he's a damn fine, hard working publisher. - Chris Baskind

Ike Turner was a damn fine guitar player. Talent in one arena doesn't give you a pass on being a dick. - Dave Slusher

++Dave - Michael W. May

separate the person from the work. just because they may produce great works in whatever field they are in does not merit or let one become an overall douche a-hole. - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

++Dave - Karim

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Jan Simmonds

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Looking for input: who would you like to hear on TWiT this Sunday?

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Been a while since Dvorak, always enjoy him - Jan Ole Peek

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Dvorak & Curry (waiting for deletion in 3, 2,1... ;-) ) - Holger Eilhard

Patrick Norton!! and PLEASE... No more Wil Harris - Jim Connolly

Only Dvorak - Charbax

With Trek out, perhaps Wil Wheaton and/or Levar Burton - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Allen Stern - Allen Stern

Patrick Norton - Bradley Goetsch

John McEnroe - Charbax

Kevin Rose, Sarah Lane, Patrick Norton, Veronica Belmont, Becky Worley (Techtv old school) or Justine (new school) - Harvey Birdman

I'd prefer no "social media experts" - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

One of the Brits you've had on before - that nice liverpulian (can't remember his name) - Jonathan Grimes

Dvorak! - Michael Kaiser from Nambu

Veronica Belmont - Harvey Birdman

Kevin Rose, Sarah Lane, Calacanis - Phillip Stewart

Wil Wheaton. EDIT: Levar Burton too. - Roberto Bonini

Stephen Fry? (I KNOW he's not a scouser, BTW) - Ian May

John C. Dvorak + Lisa Bettany + Brian Brushwood - arjo

Dvorak and Calacanis are always good. - Scott Breakall

Dvorak and Becky Worley (she was awesome too on 188) - Charbax

Dvorak and Patrick - Anton Tanderup

I agree with @Charbax. Dvorak and Becky Worley were a great combination on TWiT. - arjo

Robert Heron and/or Sascha Segan, perhaps? - Christopher A Carr

<---- myself :P - Adam Jackson

All of your regulars are likable, but Dvorak and Calcanis are the only ones that drive the show into new and interesting territory. - casey wright

J C Dvorak,J Calacanis, Lisa B .Please - Ken O'Kelly

James Whatley aka @Whatleydude - Ken O'Kelly

Bwana and Dvorack. - robby

Molly Wood and John C. Dvorak - Eduardo

Norton and Dvorack would be awesome. - Ronald Bandish

Jimmy Fallon ;-) Maybe Kevin Rose can introduce you. - Mark F. Heil

Dvorak, Norton, and Rose please! - Jonas Dionisio

Star Trek cast - Robert

Bwana, and Veronica Belmont! - David Ford

MEEE!!! - Alphonso Lizcano

You can't go wrong with Dvorak - Bryan McAffee

Garnett Lee - Lou Buran

wHil wHeaton!!!! will harris, and of course dvorak - Mark

Patrick Norton and Bwana, just to get confused with their voices! - Jack Truong

Brain Brushwood, Sarah Lane, Patrick Norton - Billy Shelton

Cali Lewis or Patrick Norton (no Dvorak please) - Ted Ellis

Bwana is always good. John C. - Willowdale

Peter rojas - lamont

Calacanis and Amber MacArthur - Stephen Lecheler

Dvorak and Patrick Norton. Lots of good news this week, so the less Twitter talk the better. - Jerry Voelker

Dvorak, Bwana, Sarah Lane, Becky Worley NOT LISA B she's horrible. - Charlieray

Physicist talking about quantum computers and an update on where we are with them. - Gilfeather

I would like you to do the show alone, but do voices for Dvorak, Calacanis, Will Harris, and Lisa Bettany. - Larry Roth

the guy from scam school.he's good - lamont

Ultimate worst topic: Brett Farve Twittering about Manny Ramirez. - Richard Hoskins

Dvorak. Always have him on please. You and him ARE TWiT. Wil Harris is also very enjoyable. So is Calacanis. Cory Doctorow also. - Emil Alexander Swenson

star trek twit wound be timely, will levar and veronica - Todd Proffitt

Oprah, Dr. Phil, Rachel Ray, and most important of anyone else in the world -- Tyra. - Walter Lounsbery

Ed Bott - Larry Basham - cornedbeefgents

How about a Patrick Norton and Leo twit? - Joe Dearman

Cranky twits Leo, Dvorak, Sebastian Ruplee, Calacanis - Charlieray

how about @jack to talk about his new "project" - patrick

hey Steve Jobs??? Could you pull that one off? - Dan Krivolavek

Bwana - Nolan Alston

cigars and wine - Richard Hoskins

With upcoming Hubble service mission, Bad Astronomer Phil Plait and Trek tie in with Levar Burton. - Doug Torneden

Dvorak, Norton, Rose, and Calacanis... - Gary Hise

We haven't heard Molly Wood on TWiT in a while. - Matt Chilcote

Dvorak, Curry, Calacanis, Patrick Norton, and yes cigars and wine - Aris/Theft

Has Curry ever been on TWiT? I'd love to see Worley on, Dvorak possibly, but if you get those two, maybe add some other old TechTV'ers if possible. Calacan would probably be good too. - Chris

NINaccess - Richard Hoskins

YLNT - Larry Basham - cornedbeefgents

Mitsubishi's "Download a Car" project. http://torrentfreak.com/downloa... - Nicholas Young

Patrick Norton, John C. Dvorak, Brian Brushwood, and Molly Wood would melt my pants. - thechadster

How about Andy Walker? - Willowdale

Molly, Dvorak, WilW, Jason Howell is under exposed, Tom Green, Harry Shearer, Veronica, mix it up Alex A sans Kevin, Merlin, yes please Merlin. And a bit less wine... - Tom Hofstatter

(Buzz Out Loud + No Agenda)*GDGT Weekly/YLNT = TWiT - MacNeurotic

Dvorak please - russellcoleman

amber - Archie Maclean

DVORAK!! - Carlos Jackson

i'\ - Chrimmus Tad

0. for a systm geek round: patrick norton (in the house this time, no wandering around & connection issues), dave randolph, and david caulkins 1. stephen fry, conan o'brien, jimmy fallon for a talk show host round (if you can get them), 2. as gunny wallen put it 'no social media experts'. - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

molly wood and brian cooley - erick

Molly Wood - Keith Hobin

How about Bwana and Patrick. They can do impersonations of each other. - Joe Dearman

Anyone related to Star Trek I guess ... wonder if you can get JJ Abrams though :p - Clarence Chiang

although very unlikely, would be funny to have george lucas & a round of star trek actors. heh :p - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

I don't like listening to people act like they know everything and yes I'm talking about Brian Cooley .. I agree with all the other choices though - John Blanton from twhirl

It's always funny how one person's favorite is another person's worst nightmare :) I always enjoy Dvorak, Patrick and Veronica. - Jeff

Molly Wood - Renee Pie

Pete Cashmore was cranky and great although probably not popular. Ryan Block and Will Harris are always good. Worley and Molly are very good. Curry would be fun since he is opinionated. Basically choose folks who are very knowledgeable or Type A. No squeeky women who start each sentence with "um" or "well". - Techboy2000

Wil W pls, he's a fan of both Twit and Star Trek... - Denverken

Check out Andrew Dubber of New Music Strategies: http://newmusicstrategies.com/ He's a New Zealander living in Birmingham, England, and he specializes in all sorts of ideas on how musicians can find a market and fans online. - Darren Landrum

Leonard Nimoy, Wil Harris, Dvorak, Molly Wood - chipster621

Patrick Norton, Lisa Bettany, and some Star Trek with new movie out so will wheaton & Levar Burton - Matt Pollari

Winer, Gilmore, Calacanis and Doctorow - that should be fun. - Geoff Schaadt

James Theodore Kirk - Richard Hoskins

Tiberius! - Michael

Seriously, Johnny C, JCal, @WilW, and Levar Burton. Ever ask Barry Sonnenfeld? - Michael

Gina Trapani, Calacanis is also always interesting. - Sung Choi

Scoble maybe. - Jason Shultz from Nambu

Robert Heron is my number one choice. Dvorak ONLY if there is no wine and young women on at the same time. - John Little

Dvorak, Burton and Rose - Mike

Dvorak , Curry, Rose - Ron Acierno

Dvorak, curry, Calacanis and Kevin - americanm

Rebert Heron also - americanm

What about that Pogue guy? Or Robert Heron, Bwana, or for the lulz, have Winer on! - Mike Lewis

Dvorak! and more Dvorak ! - John Hillestad

I agree with Dunny: Wil Wheaton and/or Levar Burton. Also, I wouldn't mind seeing Bwana! - Christopher Theberge

Patrick Norton! - Rishabh Mishra (p248)

Levar and Brushwood are the best of the newest twits - Eric Marden

Molly Wood and Dvorak. Veronica, too. - Robert

I think Adam Curry might still be in town; should invite him up to the TWiT Cottage. Bwana too. - Hawklu

Dvorak, Curry, Alex Lindsay - Matt

Wil Harris, Andy Walker and some of the old gang from The Lab. Someone to talk the effects of technology in the entertainment field such as theatre and concerts - Stephen Dean

Woz? - Hawklu

Mac vs Windows: Paul and Merlin - lofti

Jon Udell, Michael Nielsen, Ben Fry and Toby Segaran. You get cool accents and über brains - Deepak Singh

alex albrecht - Mike Vail

Thurrott & Lindsay - Kurtis Land

Molly Wood, WilW or LeVar, and Calacanis - Patrick Sullivan

Want to hear Dvorak tell all, how Twitter saved his life! - Craig Anderson

Dvorak, Adam Curry and Calacanis - Adam Marsh

molly wood, dvorak, kevin rose, not curry, calacanis - Randy Klassen

John Hodgman (pc) & Justin Long (mac) - Chris Pugh

Ryan Block, Scoble and Dvorak - Mike Getz

John Davison of WhatTheyPlay.com ~ http://www.whattheylike.com/ - monkeystick

bring back udell - get rid of dvorak - mike "glemak" dunn

Dave's Winer ? ;) - americanm

IHNATKO - Richard Hoskins

Steve Jobs, Steve Ballmer and Andy Ihnatko! - americanm

Robert Llewellyn is in town, isn't he? - Amac

Dvorak, Curry, Dave Winer, Scoble - Kiko Cherman

Dvorak, Norton, Wozniak, Belmont, Wood - Harold Benfield

What is it and the love for Dvorak? Let's take Dvorak out and have someone else in who is interesting. - Stephen Lecheler

Curry, Scoble and Lewis - Matt

Molly Wood. So smart. - Darrel Davis

Wil Wheaton (since Star Trek is out now and he can talk about it--Levar Burton's a good idea too) - Stevon

Dvorak & Curry & Mr Norton! - Adam Horne

Thich Nhat Hahn, the 14th Dalai Lama, and Bill O'Reilly - Richard Hoskins

The Google Goats - Bill Heslin

Dvorak (always!), Levar Burton, Adam Curry, Amber McArthur - Steve Visscher

John C, Wil Wheaton, Sarah Lane, Veronica Belmont - Larry Vogel

Oh, and Lisa Bettany - Jan Ole Peek

Loren Brichter (Tweetie) and Craig Hockenberry (Twitterrific) - kirk

Have you ever asked Josh Topolsky - current editor of Engadget on Leo? He has a lot to say about Kindle2 and the "future" of e-ink - winston smith

Hannibal, son of Hamilcar Barca. - Richard Hoskins

Joel Spolsky-- no kidding. - Richard Hoskins

Looking over the list, 95% of them are already on, or have been on the TWiT network. Lets get a little more imaginative. Like Josh Topolsky though. - Bill Heslin

Steve Gillmor, Merlin Mann and Jason Calacanis. - Wo

Kevin Rose, I know you don't like having him on, but he is nice to see every once and a while. Veronica Belmont would be nice again, Patrick, Maybe John. - Dakota O'Neill

Sam Ramji, Open Source Director at MS. Talk about cognitive dissonance! Very smart guy and excellent speaker. I can introduce you if you want. - John Kordyback

Josh Topoksky, Geoff Farinha (up and coming podcaster) - Shawn Roberts

I really enjoyed Twit 188 with Becky Worley and Devorak. Calacanis is good too. Not a fan of P Norton - Allison

Wil Wheaton and Levar Burton would be awesome. - Jason Elliott

John C, Rose, Norton, and Worley. Second list is John C, Harris, Swood, and Curry. - Kacy

Patrick, Wil Wheaton, and JJ Abrams. - Matt Smith

Dvork he's always good - Annika from Nambu

Leo - I'd like to hear from Bret, et al, from FriendFeed and what they've experienced, learned from the very first major outage they have suffered (due to their colo provider losing power) - Robert J Taylor

Daniel Suarez, author of Daemon… just finished it… awesome. - Mike Meiners

I like Jerry Pournelle, if he's up to it. - doggy

Heard about that Daniel Suarez. Looking on Audible right now for download (Insert Audible Ad here Leo) LOL - Bill Heslin

Molly and Lisa--Star Trek geeks; Brian; and Patrick but, as has been stated, only if he's in the house otherwise he leaves early/gets disconnected/gets called away. No more than four - MikeNNN

I forgot. John Gruber, he's the best. - John Kordyback

Definitely could use me some Molly Wood. Also, Veronica was nice. Hell, make it an all BOL show, bring in Jason and Tom too. And I agree with John, Gruber would be sweet. - Mike Nayyar

another new suggestion considering the fate of 3d realms: 1UP.com editor Garnett Lee - friend of Patrick, frequent Cranky Geeks guest and all around smart dude on tech subjects - winston smith

I love the new product reviews like Pogoplug and sling iphone and using eye-fi for instant slide show from camera! LESS ALCOHOL! - Stephan Romeo

Jason Calocanis - Star Trek Guys are a good Idea too - Shane Burgess

How has no one said Molly Wood? She hasn't been on in a while. She definitely has a great amount of geek cred. - Chris Kourmoulakis

Chris, Molly has been all over this biz! - Mike Nayyar

Patrick Norton, Jason Calicanius, Or perhaps Bwana? Levar Burton is always awesome too. - Crystal Tillman

Trent Reznor - Baron Sekiya

For selfish purpose, I'd love to come on and talk about how we're using social networking to help America's homeless. But aside from that (and pardon the plug), I like Baron's choice, Trent Reznor would make for an interesting guest given the present circumstances with Apple. I also would love to see Molly Wood. - Brandon Mendelson

Wayne Sutton - Wayne Sutton

Well that's just sneaky, Wayne. Mike Nayyar! :P - Mike Nayyar

Norton, Dvorak, Wheaton and Burton - Howard

John C. Dvorak of COURSE, Becky Worley (who seems very insightful and is able to hold her own with John) and lots of wine. Do not under any circumstances allow Calacanis on to do any more impressions, god that's annoying. - Barry Ferg

Why doesn't Gibson ever do TWiT? - Daniel E. Renfer

Johnny Worthington - Josh Haley

Ken Ray, aka Mac OS Ken. He's great. - Dave S.

dvorak ftw! His dour outlook is always appreciated - Dantrag0

This is why FF needs ad hoc polls. i.e. user voice, skribit, etc... - Jay Cuthrell

Dvorak, Kevin Rose, Sarah Lane, Patrick Norton, Dr. Kiki, and Amber MacArthur - Rocky McVey

John C.Dvorak, Steve Gibson and Jerry Pournelle. You can call it Grey Haired TWiT - dewtheone

CALACANIS!!!!! Sarah Lane is cool too. - Steve Wilson

ijustine!!! - Victor Alarcon

The Real Twits John C. Dvorak, Patrick Norton & Kevin Rose return to the roots! - Alan Abentrod

Dvorak, Wil Wheaton, and LeVar Burton. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

You should do Dvorak and a roundup of your hosts from your other podcasts: Paul, Amber, ... - Steve Fumarolo

I'd like to see more of Paul Thurott, he's only done one TWit - Joe

kevin rose, Jason, and @ev :D twitter talk. ~!!! - Kar Soon

Being a ex-pat from UK, Wil Harris, obviously. Also Dvorak and Calacanis - Tony Veale

Shwood and Dvorak - Jim Garrison

Oh and iJustine. She should be on every week, and every show for that matter. - Tony Veale

Wheaton is a terrific idea too! - Jim Garrison

Steve Wozniak - Leo A. Novelli

the ffundercats!!! - (jeff)isageek

wayne sutton - (jeff)isageek

Dvorak - Charlie Wilson

Alan Watts - Thomas Cooper

Tom Merritt is always good. - Thomas Cooper

Kate Botello!!!! SS Reunion! - Brad

Love to hear Pogue if you can get him. If not, bring back Brushwood! - Joseph

Calacanis is always interesting and how about Levar Burton and Sarah Lane Wil Harris too - Shaun

FriendFeed crew, MG Siegler, Mark Spencer, Scoble, Joshua Schachter, Kevin Rose, Veronica Belmont, Lisa Bettany, Bwana, Jeff Pulver, Dvorak, Brian Brushwood, Gary Vaynerchuk ! - Jay Neff

Scott Johnson from Extra Life Radio. - Sandy

This Week in Trek? - Ken Sheppardson

Robert Schoble and Tim O'Reilly - Scott Wesson

Bill O'Reilly! - Mike Nayyar

Becky Worley and Trent Reznor hands down would be fantastic - Fragtastic

John McEnroe would be awesome. Howe about Mike Vosseller..he's an up and coming tech guy - pauldougherty

cory doctorow please! - Rodolfo Sanchez

I totally think I should be on - I could explain my new theory that explains how dinosaurs aren't actually extinct, but instead exist in a parallel dimension where, among other things, purple is a flavor. - Chrimmus Tad

Devorak, Shwood, Patrick Norton & Cali Lewis - Anthony

Shwood, Wil Harris, Robert Heron, and Patrick Norton! - Brandon Kester

Just get Dvorak and Jason Calacanis together again. Both are insightful, headstrong and controversial. - Dave Senior

Jason Calacanis and Kevin Rose - Arnaldo Montaner

How about Patrick Norton or Bwana, Brian Brushwood and Frederick Van Johnson just can't talk about Drobo - jackygreen

Brian Gramo from http://www.thestream.tv/ - Tony, Paradox of FF

The FFundercats. - mjc

I 2nd Michael's motion - the FFundercats. - Micah Wittman

Johnny Chung Lee (http://johnnylee.net/, http://johnnylee.net/project...). - Kris Leach

Patrick Norton - Adam Hubbs

dvorak, calacanis, veronica belmont - Brian Waters

Interesting to hear what a tech-savvy VC has to say about the state of innovation in tech - what is likely to get funding - who's under presure - where money helps innovate - where VC money offers no advantage etc etc - Ian Horley

Calacanis, Veronica, Levar and Dvorak of course - John Gardiner

Still on the VC theme, Guy Kawazaki is a great orator, but not sure how good a pundit he is, or how tech savvy he is http://www.guykawasaki.com/ - I think he s in your neck of teh woods too! - Ian Horley

James Patrick Kelly AKA StoryPod SiFi - Dutch [aka fairuse]

why not. the mythbusters vs the ghost hunters - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq

I enjoy the usual suspects but I really was impressed by the recent appearance of Becky Worley. She really brought some new freshness to the show. - Mark Krynsky

Anyone that will talk about tech and not swine flu. Dvorak, Patrick, Roger, Veronica. - keith

I would like to hear Bwana again. Also Levar Burton is always good. - Dylan Newstead

Kate Russell from click in the uk to add new edgy tech? dvorak of course, and any trekkies for the new movie, steve gibson to make seriously nerdy, how about roz on her new row - Rob Williams

Bring John C. Dvorak and Jason together please! They are both great to hear in the same episode. - Pigon (Piotr Golebiowski)

Adam Curry, not that bad of a guy Leo... Less Ryan Block, More Calacanis, More Wil Harris - Jim Edwards

How about a Blast From the Past! A show on the old Computer Chronicles and maybe get Stewart Cheifet as a guest. I know it's history, and not really a new tech idea, but if not on TWiT maybe on another show. Maybe TDoT - These Decades of Tech, history of where it all started, with guests like Steve Jobs, Woz, Gates (he's retired now also) Capt. Crunch etc.. There is a lot of history there! just an idea. - HamRadioActive

Dvorak - MλTT

Dvorak. - Paul Grav

Discuss Apple's rumored acquisition of EA. Good idea/not, why/why not? With Kevin Rose (Apple Fanboy), Dvorak (Not so much of an Apple Fanboy) and Alex Albrecht (gamer, TRS etc). - Michel

Louis Gray. He should start a podcast of his own. Perhaps, you could encourage him to start one. - Michael Fidler

Leo - I would be honored and willing to discuss ANY topic you might toss in my direction. Ukiah, Sebastapol, ... all lie near and dear to my heart. any interest in interviewing a 10 year veteran of the enterprise software biz? name the time/place and i'm there. i appreciate everything you do @leo - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Jason Calacanis and Dvorak - Istvan Hoka

Doc Searls and Marshall Kirkpatrick - Brian Hendrickson

Jason Calacanis, Veronica Belmont and Kevin Rose - Anton

Cory Doc, Gina and Wil Wheaton - Dvorak is always welcome (but not sure with Cory)... - Carlos Brefe

Kate Botello - Hector Oros

More brits! - Simon Taylor

Calacanis, Dvorak and Kevin Rose - Anthony Feint

Dvorak, Roger Chang and Becky Worley - Cliff

Becky Worley, Calacanis - Antti Holvikari

In cottage guests make the show more better. Dvorak, Molly Wood, Becky Worley, and a brief appearance of the wine.... - HT

Tom Merritt for the win - Daniel Johnston

Bwana, Dvorak, Belmont, Dwight - Scott H

Regardless of who you invite, I would like to know if this list helped you decide ?? What a mess... hehe. - Brad Kligerman

WILL HARRIS - Derek

Roger Chang - Grace Adams

Calacanis and Dvorak is always gold to me. (but I also tend to like Patrick N. and Will Harris) - Eric Danker

How about Morgan Webb. I miss her cynicism on WebbAlert. She'd be a blast with John C - Edward King

Still love John C....and Molly Wood, Tom Merritt, Gina Trapani. LOVE YOUR SHOW! Carlee S - Carlee Stewner

Kevin Rose - Steve

Kevin Rose, Sarah Lane, Calacanis, Patrick Norton, Martin Sargent and no Dvorak. - Michael Sarge

Hey Leo, looked at Square Space thinking about changing but have a question about my domain, i think you said it's not problem to go straight to your www but do they now take over the hosting for the domain and or email, i still would like to use my own domain and my own email extention, and i just signed up with 1and1 to have imap support, does square space have imap support, not sure how that would all work. - Charles Moore

John C Dvorak. - tommy

How about how the white house could have saved 300k and a job. To do the Air Force One Photo - hire someone to photoshop a pricture of AF1 over the SoL - why did we actually need to take the picture? - Laurence Gold

Molly. Tom Merritt, Dvorak, Veronica, ... how to choose? Good luck making sense of all the suggestions! Oh, and Jono Bacon! ;) - Bert Van Vreckem

Anyone BUT drunk girls discussing 'social media' ;p - Imran Idris

Scott Johnson of Extralife Radio/The Instance - he is holding his annual Nerdtacular today, screening StarTrek in SLC, Utah. Uber Geek. - Devin Baines

Jason Calicanis or Kevin Rose. Patrick Norton is too snarky & know-it-all-ish - Chris Doppler

Becky Worley - Shane Eaton

I can take an hour or two out of my day and help out. Tweet me @fabio26 - Fabio

oh...ohh.... I know.... OBAMA! - David Pincheira

Dvorak/Norton are the best. Molly Wood/Meritt/Veronica are always great, as is Shwood. Wild card Morgan Webb would be neat, but people have been asking for her for almost too long. - Victor Z

Me. Of course. Bon week-end à tous ; ) - Didier Lahely

Why not have an open MIC ? - johnpiercy

I'm available - Russ Broomell

Lisa Bettany and Justine Ezarik please :) - Peter Kruit

Paul thurott - Joe from BuddyFeed

Jason Calacanis - Caleb Elston

I'd really like to see you take it to the next level and turn it into the tech equivalent of the Sunday news shows, ala This Week, Meet the Press, etc. That is, try to get more of the folks who've actually made news in tech this week on the show, combined with analysis of why what's happened this week matters. Just getting a bunch of hosts from TWiT shows and other media outlets talking about who knows whom and promoting their stuff is less appealing to me. - Ken Sheppardson

Levar Burton - May I also add perhaps an iPhone/BB/C-phone app review/recommendation section of the show - I value the panels input on such things - Tyler Johnston

Jerry Pournelle, Levar B or Peter Rojas. Spare us the bubble gum ones like iJustine or Lisa Bettany. Shopping exclusively at an Apple Store and being cute != tech expert/panelist. - Adi

megan morrone - TenderLovePony

Bwana McCallm, Lisa Bettany , STEVE WOZNIAK! - Ian P

Thurrott, Shwood, Dvorak, Kevin - imperator3733 from twhirl

Always love to hear perspectives from Dvorak, Norton, Calacanis, Belmont, Wheaton & Burton, lets add Adam Curry, Economist Paul Krugman and actor Jeff Goldblum to the mix - Dan Beyer

Molly Wood, Robert Llewellyn, Sarah Lane and maybe Dvorak - Molly, "sorry"

Becky Worley!! - RealJon

Jono Bacon - D Raydrick

Dvorak - Marcus Sasiadek

ALL WAYS TRY TO TUNE IN TO TECH TV WHEN LEO OR THE SCREAN SAVERS GANG IS ON LIVE - daveccorey

Thurrott and Dvorak :) - Vesa Kauppinen

You need some Mom's for a Mother's Day Special - Chris Pugh

Good call on the Mom's Day Special - Bill Heslin from email

Let's have that discussion about US Internet connectivity that you mentioned last week on TWiT. I'm ready if you are. - Debi Jones

Molly Wood, Cali Lewis, John Dvorak, Jason Calacanis - David Z

Cali Lewis + Adam Curry - Joseph Kelley

You should get someone connected with the online poker business, discuss the legislation on that matter. - Pedro Fonseca

More about the National Broadband Policy, please! Did you say "MobileJones" would be on this week's TWiT? - Web Pixie

Jason Calacanis - Kevin Burton

Paul Thurrott - Kevin Burton

How about all adults. Getting tired of kiddie talk. Dvorak is good for a start. - Jim Corkrum

Dvorak!! - John Sullivan

Thurrott and Calacanis - Michael

This guy: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZiW26C... - l0ckergn0me

@loic, @veronica, @ginatrapani, and @scobleizer. - Jeff Harbert

JCal, Dvorak; Wil Harris; Wil Wheaton; Becky Worley - Vickie K

Vernor Vinge. - Michael R. Bernstein

Molly Wood & Steve Gibson. It would be rant-astic! - tamahome

Jerry Pournelle, Molly Wood and John C. Dvorak - Joe Gilbert - Joe Gilbert

Dvorak's New World Symphony would do rather nicely - Antonin Dvorak - David Blumenstein

wow... thanks for the love everyone! my favorite guests to be on with are Dvorak and Kevin Rose. I feel like those shows really rock. - Jason Calacanis

Scoble, Calcanis, Gillmor, Winer and Arrington mud wrestling in pink blancmange! - Make us laugh and then they'll all be friends again! - Jan Simmonds

Dvoracanis part 2! And Miley Cyrus. Or maybe Paul Thurrott & Andy Ihnatko, plus Kevin Rose. - Thunderwing from twhirl

Or Adam Curry, Alex Jones & Michael Savage. Oh, wait, that would be a special episode of No Agenda. Sorry, my bad. - Thunderwing from twhirl

Lisa Bettany, Jason Calacanis and Dvorak. Always. It'd be nice to see Paul Thurrott on TWiT, he's always great and it was a big MS week what with the RC. - Henrik

After listening to todays Gilmore Gang, anybody that sounds more professional then that group would be better. - John Wallace

It would be an honor to be on the show... www.cyberstudies.org - Shane Tilton

Here it is the ultimate Twit Group. Leo, Patrick, Dvorak,Brian Brushwood,& Jason Calacanis - Tom Rowbotham

what about major nelson from the xbox team - Brad Reiter

Merlin Mann & Andy Ihnatko - Chris Weber

Martin Sargent and Laura Swisher - Will

Wil Harris - Fred Hamilton

A more science and tech oriented TWIT instead of social media would be nice. - Taylor Hutchison

sun 10 mothers day 219 atl time VEDIO IS UP AUDIO IS DOWN ON TWIC TV IN WINDOWS - daveccorey

WORKING NOW YEAH - daveccorey

Patrick Norton & Will Harris - Dakotah Jenkins

Want to hear Dvorak tell all, how Twitter saved his life! - Craig Anderson

Dave Winer

Re: Tweets of the rich and famous (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...

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"See that's what I miss. I have no idea if that's 140 characters or not, but it's a nice single thought that makes me happy. And hungry!" - Dave Winer

Article FYI at http://tinyurl.com/d7e58e - See Video Clip for a funny take on once glorius careers devalued - http://tinyurl.com/c6z6au - Best Jan - Jan Simmonds

sic 'glorious' - Jan Simmonds

Robert Scoble

I'm demoing friendfeed to a bunch of people at Kinnernet. All sorts of tech industry leaders. Say hi. Oh, Jimmy Wales says he'll join friendfeed here. Watch the video we recorded here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel... interesting conversation.

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We're on live video on Steve Garfield's site. http://bit.ly/3XlXa - Robert Scoble

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You are now on the screen. Tell us whatever you want. - Robert Scoble

Best Buy employee is here. Swear at him, if you want. :-) - Robert Scoble

Hi Jimmy et all! Nice to meetcha! - Jorge Escobar

Well, for one thing it is a lot easier to engage in a conversation on FriendFeed and I especially like the idea that you can create a conversation based on any entry or content type posted to FriendFeed. Twitter is touted as more popular but the fact remains it isn't always that easy to track a conversation and the content types you can have a conversation about are severely limited to text and perhaps an image via the likes of TwitPic. - Paul Jacobson

Waving right now! - Bill Heslin

Hi folks! People from all over the world are having fun, conversation and a good time on FriendFeed. Like me. From The Netherlands. - Ruud van Wijngaarden

Or me from Germany. - Markus

hola - Laura Norvig

Hi Robert, Hello Jimmy! - Tony C

Had no idea what Kinnernet was -- went to the website. Is it deliberately ugly? - Brian Sullivan

brian: yes - Robert Scoble

Hi, folks! Please give generously to libraries! People rely on libraries for internet access & technology assistance, among other things. - josh neff, geek at large

Hai! to the bunch of people at Kinnernet! \o/ - John Rubier

Hey there! - Carmen

One of the guys speaking is Bill Janeway. Go see what he started. - Robert Scoble

hey everyone! friendfeed is an amazing piece of technology. - Trey Philips

The other guy speaking is Yair Frindlinger. GO see what he started. ICQ. - Robert Scoble

Welcome. Come join us and get direct responses from the real people that use your services. - Santa CW™

Hi everyone! I have just started actively using friendfeed, and the real time updating blows me away. It's so strange to see comments appearing, and seeing my own tweets instantly appear is always surprising. Friendfeed is incredible! - Sam Guzman

Robert: there are definitely some really smart and talented people there! - Paul Jacobson

Scoble... in real time... ftw! - .LAG liked that

Hi Kinnernets. What is that? going to google - Charbax

That's Michael Parekh talking. - Robert Scoble

Peter Hirschberg is speaking now. - Robert Scoble

Hi ! FF is the way to go : share-discuss-connect ! - Jim Braux-Zin

Kinnernet is a private by invite only event done by Yossi Vardi (the VC who started ICQ). - Robert Scoble

friendfeed is like ICQ for 21st century - Charbax

You are still on the screen here. Get involved! - Robert Scoble

FriendFeed = smart crowd source. Engaged thinkers- un-compacting discoveries, sharing ideas and working out the future. - michael sean wright

friendfeed could improve their real-time stuff, but it's already pretty cool - Charbax

okay, look. you guys can join, but don't tell your friends. let's keep this small and speedy. haha kidding! - Trey Philips

Kinnernet is comin around! - Markus

Hey Kinnernet, Israel is calling...enjoy ! - Nir Ben Yona

FF is the best way to get instant feedback from lovers of all sorts of subjects. This the the cream of the crop in users of technology. - Santa CW™

Hey all :) - mjc

With clever filters, friendfeed real-time could support thousands of people chatting about the same topics at the same time, and filter it to have a meaningfull real-time overview on all topics and all people - Charbax

Yo Charbax, have you tried FF on Archos 5 yet? - Nir Ben Yona

@Charbax: I like that: "friendfeed is like ICQ for 21st century" ...that's a good start, but it's more than that and has more potential. just one opinion, of course. ;-) - .LAG liked that

Yup it works fine on Archos, also the realtime ajax stuff - Charbax

I would say is the Usenet/mix AOL chat rooms of the 90's. - Santa CW™

Are you all listening to this? Interesting conversation: http://bit.ly/3XlXa - Robert Scoble

I'd like on friendfeed to type in any topic that I like and get some real-time chat/updates going on in that. - Charbax

Thanks for sharing this with us Robert. Great conversation to listen in on. - Bill Heslin

friendfeed is to social media like ctrl-alt-delete is to windows! - indispensable! - Ryan Gerritsen

Ummm, Robert - I don't know if you follow me, you used to, but I kinda just cursed in a post, so if your demo people are the sensitive type, ummm, yeah, make em look the other way? - Matthew DeVries

Ha. It seems Kinnernet guys just had an ice cream break http://bit.ly/hRsEq [via Jay]. - Nir Ben Yona

Matthew: I follow you. - Robert Scoble

Nir: free ice cream, yum! - Robert Scoble

is steve garfield at kinnernet? - Charbax

Sorry if my cursing post makes them run away then :) - Matthew DeVries

@Charbax Yes, I'm here and streaming this. - Steve Garfield

Cool thanks for letting us listen in - Charbax

Time to wipe out the Copyright laws and rewrite them for the good of the consumer. Keep the Copywrite owners out of the discussion. - Santa CW™

...please, guys, no "topless" memes... .LOLz - .LAG liked that

LOL won't hire someone can't find on google? OMG - Santa CW™

Good thing I'm all over the net. - Santa CW™

FYI: Kinnernet conference is named after Lake Kinneret in north Israel, where Jesus is claimed to be walking on water. - Nir Ben Yona

I have to scroll up and click comment to add a message here. I think friendfeed should have the post message box stay there at the bottom by default - Charbax

Hello - Bryan R. Adams

So should there be a company that provides Personal Brand management on the internet? - Santa CW™

Hello, hello I don't know why you say goodbye I say hello Hello, hello I don't know why you say goodbye I say hello - Susan A. Kitchens

Charbax: you can open this live wall on a different window, should be much easier. - Nir Ben Yona

@Charbax, click the timestamp then click it again to get a pop-out window of it - mjc

Ah yeah cool - Charbax

friendfeed should perhaps provide chat embed type of feature so this friendfeed "chat" can replace the IRC thing on http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - Charbax

Howdy! - Herb Hernandez

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Just set my stopwatch for seeing the Wiki page on Kinnernet expand further than a modest few lines... - Jan Simmonds

how about real-time wiki - Charbax

You can't search or skim video well enough - mjc

I wonder though if that real-time searches/filters will consume too much bandwidth for it to be free. - Charbax

real-time is over? - Charbax

Not yet, just a lunch break :) - Nir Ben Yona

Whose red macbook was that? gorgeous :) - mjc

In a few days, there might be $100 Android laptops unveiled - Charbax

@Charbax... source?? Link?? - Santa CW™

Computex, Google I/O, gigaom - Charbax

Dell, Asus, MSI, Acer and cheaper ones - Charbax

Don't think $100 laptops can be made out of quality materials. - Nir Ben Yona

@Nir, they wouldn't be considered quality. It would be throw away machines which is where everything is going. - Santa CW™

@nir, I don't think netbooks scream quality either - mjc

Disposable computers. Easy to buy then burn. Kind of like prepaid cell phones. - Santa CW™

Friendfeed induces behaviour change. Eg, "Kinnernet who? Friendfeed search..." http://friendfeed.com/search... A few days ago, "Kinnernet who? Google..." - Andy Bold

Michael: you should have seen my Asus N10 ;) but seriously, there's a big difference between reasonable stuff and crap. Arrington realized that with his tablet device. - Nir Ben Yona

The major cost of the Android laptop is the screen. The rest is electronic peanuts - Charbax

@Nir, I just don't see 1024x600 as usable for a non-mobile OS. also failure rates for netbooks are still pretty much unknown - mjc

Michael: Very usable, besides video editing I literally do everything with this kind of resolution and have no probs. BTW, the N10 community has found a way to upgrade this resolution to 1024 X 768, but it really doesn't matter (except when it comes to games support). - Nir Ben Yona

@Nir, what about the huge number of crappy windows apps and some Linux ones that assume you have at 768 or more vertical lines? there is a lot of that... - mjc

yo! - MikeAmundsen

Michael: I totally agree about the Linux issue, way too annoying. On the other hand, the number of windows apps that support X600 resolution is increasing and more adjustable than before, still a lot to improve though. - Nir Ben Yona

The only thing about Israelis is that once they figure out friendfeed, Robert, they'll show you how to do it better. - George Hall (Australia)

Robert Scoble

I'm looking at buying a mountain bike. For $1,000 to $1,500 what would you recommend? Answer on friendfeed so I can link to the results, link here:

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I have a Cannondale that I love (though I'm lame and put road tires on it so I can take it to the post office!). http://www.cannondale.com/bikes... - Marina Martin

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santa cruz are top grade http://www.santacruzbicycles.com/home... - Vikrum J. Singh

Marin Pine Mountain http://www.marinbikes.com/2009... - Clint

It depends on what you want to do/what sort of riding your going to be doing. Do you want a hard tail(just front suspension) or dual suspension? - Michael Gross

I've owned several Trek's and have been very happy with all of them. - Jeff P. Henderson

Michael: dual suspension. I'm getting old and the softer ride is worth it (I've already tested that out). - Robert Scoble

Michael: I'll be on mostly flat trails, though, but who knows? Even then, though, the dual suspension is something I felt on just street riding and like a lot. - Robert Scoble

I like my Diamondback - a bit heavier than most, but more solid - Jason

Vikrum: are there any Santa Cruz in my price range, though? - Robert Scoble

cannondale is a good bike, Trek also makes some mean mid range bikes, i use this site for info http://www.mtbr.com/ - Adam B

A professional rider today told me that in my price range Specialized and Trek are good to consider. - Robert Scoble

Giant Trance X2. High quality yet affordable. By all means check out Mountain Bike Review (http://www.mtbr.com) for user reviews, trail ratings, discussions, etc. And then sign up so I can say I was on mtbr.com before you. - Sue Radd

Cannondale all the way. Depending on how "mountain" you want. You may want to look at a hybrid. Road tires are so much easier to push. - Hans

Hans: I'm going to be mostly on dirt, but doubt I'll go out in the mud very often, so hybrid might be OK. I like the traction I get with knobby tires, though. - Robert Scoble

Don't know what you'll end up with, but this should be useful as a ceiling: http://www.cannondale.com/bikes... - Christopher A Carr

I have had a Specialized for almost twenty years. no shox or special suspension but worked great on bumpy Volcano dirt trails near Bend Oregon last summer. - Dave Blockhus

7 pages of them on Craigslist - http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search... - John Rubier

Specialized has always been my favorite bike brand - Jesse Stay

I also vote for canondale I have one that is 15+years old and I am a heavy rider (270) in total time owned other then tune ups 2 repairs shifter and BB axle. AWESOME AMERICAN BIKE CO. - zac_in_ak

I do have to say that friendfeed is demonstrating something very killer here: real time product feedback. I'm writing a blog post about this. - Robert Scoble

Yo Dawg, I heard you're looking for a bike. Get a Kona Dawg. http://www.konaworld.com/09_dawg... So you can ride while you ride. Seriously great bikes though. - Andrew Smith

Sorry, but I have to lobby for the Trance, 'cause that's what I ride. (modded earlier model to add disc brakes and a better Fox fork.) :-) http://tinyurl.com/cl4moa - Sue Radd

If you're buying new and this year's model, the Trek Fuel EX 5.5. It's on the high end of that range, but it's a great frameset with quality components everywhere. I've ridden it: very comfortable, plenty of suspension travel when you need it, and it will make you feel confident and secure. It's tough to beat Trek on value, and they really stand behind their products. I have four Treks right now, and they all rock. But don't forget used bikes: you can save a pile and still get something nice. - Chris Baskind

Chris: so now I have to decide whether to go Cannondale or Trek or Specialized. You all are no help! :-) - Robert Scoble

Man, one could imagine a very slick marketplace integration with services like FF...especially for situations like this. - Christopher A Carr

I would go with the bike that you feel most comfortable on. It is all a matter of preference. Every rider has a different riding style, body type, etc. I own a trek fuel ex8...good all around bike! I've also have two Kona hardtails, which are bomb proof! Visit your local bike shop and let them know your budget, and the type of riding you will be doing. Try as many as you can...once you sit on the bike, you will know in the first 5min. Like an interview! Ha! - nilo ayson

Can't go wrong with Specialized and Trek. Heck, go with Trek to feel some solidarity with Lance! - Troy Malone

I'd recommend a Trek. I've beaten the heck out of those things on the trails, and they just last and ask for more. Seems the 6 series are in your price range http://www.trekbikes.com/us... - Al

It really depends what you want to do. Where do you want to ride? With friends and family around some trails or do you want to do some more serious cross-country or downhill mountain biking. Either way resist getting something with dual suspention in that price range - it's slow & heavy and junky. Kona's a better value and you might want to look at the speedy street/trail friendly DR DEW http://www.konaworld.com/09_drde... or the more KULA http://www.konaworld.com/09_kula... - PS) Live to ride! - Adam Horne

Ask on http://www.hunch.com - Victor Panlilio

I just bought a new Trek 4300. Its a nice cost-for-value solution - they are good for not-yet-professionals, yet hold up nicely even for heavy-set riders (me :)) - Yariv Zur

Victor: why? My friends are here. They aren't on hunch. I trust the people here on friendfeed and Twitter a lot more than on Hunch. - Robert Scoble

Other than Kona, I'd also recommend Rocky Mountain Bikes. Both brands huge here in Whistler. Maybe look at this one http://www.bikes.com/main+en... - Andrew Smith

was thinking maybe a used one... but i bought mine from speedgoat.com -- incredible service and best prices online by far. worth a look for sure. - Vikrum J. Singh

you said great, now you have to pick between a cannondale, a trek, and a specialized mountain bike. That's not a problem, I actually test road all 3 at the sea otter on thursday and they are all great bike companies. The answer to chose between the three is easy. Go to your local friendly neighborhood bike shop and see which one of the three they carry. - Ilya Rivkin

Agree that all three make very nice bicycles. CL or a local bike shop. Find the best bike for the money that feels good to you... - Christopher A Carr

Ilya is right: It all starts with a great bike shop. Go visit a few and do exactly what you do with tech companies. The good people will be apparent, and those are the folks you want to buy from. - Chris Baskind

Look for a Cross Country frame for light trail riding. They're usually lighter and position your body better for longer distances. Dual Suspension often have more aggressive downhill frame geometries. - timmann

You know, given that every single good MTB is going to have some mix of Shimano and SRAM parts, have suspension from a small group of companies, is made in a small selection of factories in Taiwan, etc. I think it's mostly about which one happens to be available at a nice place with non-asshole salesfolk and happens to fit you the best. - Wirehead

Oh, and unless you are in the mud, knobby tire traction is an illusion. I've gone through all sorts of bay area mountain biking trails and not once have I said "Gee, the knob between my legs isn't enough. I need a bunch of knobs on my tires!" But, given that most Hybrids are intended to be riden a maximum of 500 miles before being thrown out, you might just want to get a nice MTB and then change the tires out afterwards. - Wirehead

Ryan: here's th thing about friendfeed, though. If you ask a question and I "like" it, it goes to the same people who would see my own question. So, do you need 90,000 followers or only one follower? - Robert Scoble

Pretty interesting to see how this worked--asking for feedback. I ride a Trek Fuel EX7--probably above the range you set but not by much. My wife bought it for me asking all her mtb friends. She does XTERRA races. She was told and I agree, it was well worth the extra money to step up from the EX 5.5. And as someone said, Lance rides Treks. He road a Top Fuel at last years Leadville 100. - Bob McAllaster

I'd go with either Santa Cruz or Scott, they offer real pro bikes in wide range of levels. Oh, and Robert, I'm so waiting for the video of Scoble Doing Downhill. - Nir Ben Yona

Nir: in the $1,500 level? Trek seems better at that level than the others. - Robert Scoble

Robert: I was riding pro for many years. With bikes, you can put 5 people in a room and hear 10 different opinions. My first advice would be to go and test each one of the models for yourself. Second, is to get the exact size that fits your body (very important). Third, buy the right accessories. Fourth, join a group at your level. Finally, Trek are good, no doubt, but IMHO Scott are better, but yet again, go and ask for a test ride. - Nir Ben Yona

One more thing: if you're planning a trail ride, dual suspension won't be good. Make sure you can lock the rear suspension, otherwise it would take extra energy from you. - Nir Ben Yona

Nir: but it's a lot more comfortable. I tried that out already. - Robert Scoble

Robert: It is ! but if you ride 20 miles of flat trail, the rear suspension will force you to put more effort, that's why you should buy dual suspension with locking option. As for the gears, you won't need XTR, i think that XT will be enough at this point. - Nir Ben Yona

Robert, I took this Giant Anthem 1, some crazy places in the European Alps over 2500km and all I got was one flat. http://is.gd/tpjL http://is.gd/tplp. If you are after a smooth rolling dual suspension with propedal rear shock for 'widish' forest tracks and 'smoothish' single track I think this would be ideal. - Jan Zimak

Robert; a hard question to answer without substantially more information. Generally if you stick with the top brands you will get a good bike but, to get one that is best suited to your riding style and terrain the best approach would be to contact your local mountain bike club and ask which are the most reputable bike shops. the go to 2-3 of them to get their advice/recommendation. Word of warning: unless the sales person wants to know a lot about you, your interests and where/how you ride. walk away. - Wayne Blackshaw

Robert, you definitely want a hard-tail (i.e front suspension only) for flat trail riding. If comfort is an issue, replace the stock saddle with a really good foam-gel-filled model that has a cutaway to reduce pressure on the crotch. Also, padded short/pant liner for added cushioning. Also, I would suggest you get a model with click gear shifters, rather than the twist variety. In my experience, shifting on the fly is much smoother and easier with the click variety. - Phil Essing

Phil: I'll take another look, but I dramatically liked the ones with dual suspension better. - Robert Scoble

Robert: well, then, definitely follow the advice of those who suggest a model with a lockable rear-suspension. My advice on saddle replacement and padded short/pant liners stands. For longer duration riding, rear suspension will do nothing to ease the comfort in the crotch and seat-bone areas. - Phil Essing

Phil: cool. the trail I'll be on most has some up and down, some ruts, 30% asphalt, 70% dirt/gravel. I doubt I'd be riding more than an hour very often. I'm not that kind of guy. Someday, if I really get into it, maybe, but I'm at least two years away from that and probably never. Got two kids, so getting more than an hour for exercise is going to be very tough until they are older. - Robert Scoble

This is the coolest thread in a while. ;-) - Chris Baskind

Robert: Sounds like the terrain mix that I mostly ride. One last bit of advice: never ride without an emergency kit. Get a strap on tire pump, and a saddle bag that you can stuff with a multi-tool, two or three tire levers, spare inner-tube, and a pair of latex gloves. Why the gloves? For that inevitable moment when, while shifting, your chain derails. With the gloves, you can quickly get that chain back in place without getting your hands all messed-up with grease. - Phil Essing

Oh, and if you're the DIY type, here's a site you're going to definitely want to bookmark: http://bicycletutor.com/ Lots of great video tutorials on how to maintain and care for your new trusty steed. - Phil Essing

+1 for the tips Phil, I second every word. Another good place to find relevant stuff is here: http://forums.mtbr.com - Nir Ben Yona

Nir Ben Yona: Been lurking on those forums for quite some time. Definitely, another great source of info for the MTB'er. - Phil Essing

Get a double bike trailer and take your two lovelies along for the ride. - Ken Oatman

Love my Gary Fisher. Have had it for 15 years. Indestructible. - Jeff

My top picks are Sta Cruz Blur XC or Giant Trance. You should also look at 29ers (29" wheels instead of 26"). They are all the rage and make riding over obstacles even easier. - Craig Villamor

You have a lot of good feedback so far. I bought a Trek 4300 (hardtail) 5 years ago and love it. Have upgraded almost all the components, but the lightweight aluminum frame is durable and pretty light. If I was in the market for a new full suspension, I'd look at the Trek FuelEX or Gary Fisher full suspension. You might rethink your hardtail/FS decision. You'll get better components for your $ with a hardtail, and less maintenance. If you go FS you may want to up your budget to $1500 to $2000. - Charles Hanskat

I'm a mountain biker, go check out http://pinkbike.com + http://jehlebikes.com + http://www.chainreactioncycles.com ... I would recommend Scott, Santa Cruz, Specialized. - Apostolos Papadopoulos

oh, and i want to see photos on flickr pls :D heh - Apostolos Papadopoulos

Many good choices from Specialized, Trek, Cannondale, etc. The key is getting the proper fit. Go to a decent (not high end) independent bike shop like Valencia Cyclery in SF (valenciacyclery.com). If you join the SF Bike Coalition (sfbike.com), most SF bike shops will give you a discount, too. You can often find a great deal on last year's models, too. Bike to Work Day is May 14th, so now is the time.... - Tony Wasserman

Salcano Bike is good. - N.Onur ATAHAN

Yep...don't even bother with anything other than Santa Cruz. It's what my friend Chris uses and he does 24 hour mountain bike races. - Alex Scoble

Have a look at the GT 'Force' series or Gary Fisher 'Roscoe' Series. Opt for full suspension along with clip-less pedals/shoes IMHO. - Walt Ruppar

Robert: I'm in San Mateo and ride Purisima Creek Road (starting from the Skyline Side) pretty frequently. Lots of good riding in MPROSD preserves. DM me if you ever want to ride. I'm slow and non-threatening, I promise. - Sue Radd

What do you want to ride? Bike path, singletrack, doubletrack, downhill, etc... - Chris Greene

Robert, looked at your description of trails and riding conditions above and here's my most sage advice. BUY THE BIKE THAT FITS! - Don - Chris Greene

't listen to anyone that's telling you a model. Go ride some Treks, Specialized, Cannondale whatever features you like and settle on something that fits you and i comfortable. - Chris Greene

I wouldn't go fancy with suspension (front fork will do). And no need for exotic materials until you start racing (stay away from carbon fiber). If you start to pound singletrack the mainline brands (Trek, Spec, Cannon) will all fall apart on you. Buy something with a good kit (Shimano LX, XT), and again be comfortable and nice fitting. You can only decide this by test riding bikes. Don't mistake mountain biking with a mountain bike. - Chris Greene

If you are only going to ride the coastal roads in HMB or bike paths, a mountain bike is not the right way to go. - Chris Greene

- peace out - Chris Greene

Chris: except I have mountain trails all around me. - Robert Scoble

I've never had a bad experience with a Gary Fisher bike. - Tsali, The Native of FF

Gary Fisher is a Trek brand. They maintain a lot of their traditional character, though. And they're beautifully finished. My Klein road bike is also Trek. - Chris Baskind

Robert: I know you do. The question is do you really ride them? If yes, then I think a god hardtail THAT FITS with a nice fork is a good choice for you. If you don't ride them and think you might, I would suggest you start off with something better suited to the stuff you do ride. The range of stuff in HMB can go from easy climbs and bike paths to super gnarly stuff on Montara Mtn. that's the kind of things I've ridden with a 50LB dual suspension bike with 10" of travel. - Chris Greene

Robert: ....my first mtn bike was a aluminum hardtail and was great for a couple of years. When I obsessed about it I upgraded. If I had never gone down the pro road I would have been fine with that simple bike for the rest of my days. The problem was that you can never "make" an expensive or simple bike fit you and it will not be fun. - Chris Greene

I had a Cannondale. Nearly took my eye out mountainbiking and falling over a cactus, so I stopped. - Francine Hardaway

http://bit.ly/10KnjQ - JimmyJet

Just got a new Trek! Love Trek and Giant. - Corey Marthaller from Nambu

forget the mountain bike, buy a euro style bike like the following and ride in normal clothes every day somewhere! Far better to do 1-10km every day than 50km on a sat or sun, I do 10km a day on my swiss bike and am in the best shape ever: http://usa.batavus.com/ http://www.civiacycles.com/civiaco... text me if you need further euro bike buying advice :-) ! …Roland +1 604 729 7924 - Roland Tanglao

Hooray for city bikes. I've hardly ridden anything else since buying mine. - Chris Baskind

Speak to your local bike shop. The support they will provide when things go wrong or you want to upgrade is worthwhile. You can also try the bike which is important. The larger manufacturers can probably get you a better set of components for the money but it will be less unique. Trek, Marin, Specialized are all good in my opinion. How you feel on the bike and the dealer support are more important to a new biker in my opinion, assuming you are fairly new to this? - Andrew Edwards

Robert: Andrew Edwards comment just above is great advice: find a shop you like and trust, the best result will come from that. Also key, and already said: get a bike that fits, from a shop that understands fit. There aren't many bad bikes made anymore, especially in the $1000 and up price range. That said, I work at Specialized, and follow you on twitter, so DM me if you want to talk more. @matthewscd - matthewscd

fookinner - Robert Scoble

Robert: Specialized Stump Jumper. http://tinyurl.com/owcdfw I have bought this bike 2x ( the first one was stolen out of my garage) It is way more than I will ever use as I like to ride around SF and to the North Bay, but have taken it down nutty trail rides in Tahoe as well. It certainly has the "you know your bikes" quality as whenever I take it to get tunes up the gearheads always... more... - Kevin Murray

Well, did you get one??? My advice is similar to a couple others. Work with a local bike shop who works with you to FIT you on a bike. More than anything else, finding a bike and tuning it to your body and riding style will go farther than anything to make it an enjoyable sport. - Dave Ploch

What type of riding do you want to do? XC or downhill. There's a significant difference in bike design and tech between the two. I'm an XC rider myself and rode a Santa Cruz superlight before switching to a KHS 904r. Both are dual suspension. I would highly recommend dual over a hardtail. Superior handling, climbing and comfort on those 100km rides. - Troy Forster

Wow Building 43 really is as big as Area 51! - Jan Simmonds

Cannondale Bay Boy Ultra is what I have. comes with nice road rims and front shock is in the head tube and can be turned on and off and has disc brakes. I bought a separate set of mountain bike rims and they swap on and off easily. Two bikes for the price of 1.5 - Dave Evans

Robert, I spend my whole life thinking about questions like this. The correct answer for you is "Gary Fisher HiFi." And also you need to start reading my blog: fatcyclist.com. - Elden Nelson

$799 Montague Paratrooper used by the Army. http://www.montagueco.com/bikes... - Francis Estrada

so will Cannondale sponsor the discussion? And if they do, won't that undermine the nature and quality of the discussion - andrewkeen

good luck everyone - andrewkeen

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Louis Gray

Facebook ads still failing. In what way does this become something I would buy? Is it for me? Am I supposed to get it for someone?

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I agree, they are horrible. I often give these ads a "thumbs down" and I still get rubbish! - Brian

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Fail. - Drew Lucas

Ew... - Helen Sventitsky

is there something you're not telling us Louis? (Are we sure FB fails?) ;-) - zeroinfluencer

David: Have you been on FB recently? They're practically all dating ads - Nicholas James

american apparel is definitely a raunchy advertiser.. they also does nude ads. no joke. search and you will find some nsfw sites that run nsfw AA ads. - Paul Stamatiou

google ads thought for a good month last fall that I had a huge hardon for tactical surveillance gear. Parabolic mics, night vision spotting scopes..... I'm wondering who bought what with my credit card. - Matthew DeVries

Well, it did become something you shared on.. - Thomas Bøhm

I only ever see a broken image icon in Facebook ads =) Takes up a lot less space that way too. - LogEx

Nicholas - Aye, I was jesting. I avoid FB like the plague, regardless of having Friends there; there's no depth of experience on the platform - as demonstrated by the display adverts. - zeroinfluencer

Since you don't think you need one of these, am I to assume you already have one? :) - Rob La Gesse

Rob, do you think Blue is LG's colour? - zeroinfluencer

Rob, I don't yet have one. Hmmm... maybe Facebook is on to something. - Louis Gray

If I own a wall and invite everyone and anyone to come and write graffiti on it, then what have I actually got? Initially I may have an interesting collage that everyone wants to look at, but at the end of the day, when people have moved on back to quality content, in reality I just have a messy wall. Who’d want to advertise next to that? - More at http://blog.famebook.com - Jan Simmonds

I get all these dating ads and I've specifically selected I'm no on FB for dating, utter useless. Get the targets right it might work but I tend to ignore ads. - Kol Tregaskes

Nearly every ad I get from Facebook for a local business is in San Francisco. I live in Seattle. I haven't lived in the Bay Area since before I joined Facebook. I've been conducting a little experiment lately, giving a thumbs down to every ad from a business in California, marking them as irrelevant. I have yet to get an ad for a business in Seattle. Their ad system isn't just bad, it's horrendously and completely broken. - Kevin Pedraja

Kevin - I think (i know) it has to do with WHO places the ads too. - zeroinfluencer

David: What do you mean? Are local advertisers asking for their ads to be shown to people who live 900 miles away? I don't think I'd want to pay for those clicks if it were me... And how hard is it for Facebook to look at my home address and serve me ads that at least have a slight chance of being relevant. (Sorry, this has been annoying me for a while now... ;)) - Kevin Pedraja

Facebook need to charge a $1 a year the ads are hopeless - Thomas Power

That's a good point Thomas - 23 million users? It can't be more than 23 million dollars to run that thing - Matthew DeVries

Looks like she's sitting on the loo... - Kathy Johnson

I didn't even know there were ads on Facebook. I've only ever used it with Firefox and ABP. Apparently it works pretty well. - Kenton

Wow, that ad is so bad, I'd think it was a competitor of theirs running it. wtf? - Don MacAskill

Jeremiah Owyang

Friendfeeders: Do not respond to this, do not comment and do not 'like' it.

April 28 - Comment - Like - Share

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Why not? ;-) - Jan Simmonds

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Sorry, you can't tell me what to do :) - Rob Diana

Haha, poor you =)) - Ninh Nguyen

But I liked it! - Jorge Escobar

Surely you wanted us to do the opposite of what you said. It's the only thing that makes sense. Very clever, Mr. Owyang... - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Is there a reason for this, Mr. Owyang? - imabonehead

Jeremiah, you can't ask FriendFeeders to not comment / not like! These social networkers are the best commenters/likers ;) - Thierry R. Andriamirado

Sure that FriendFeed is the best media to train people in commenting & liking stuffs - Thierry R. Andriamirado

i likie! - Gordon Swaby

No comment. - Daniel J. Pritchett

No comment either - Roberto Bonini

OK. - Mitch Wagner

:p - Helen Sventitsky

This is a test. This user is conducting a test of the Emergency Comment System. This is only a test. [attention signal] This is a test of the Emergency Comment System. The users of your social media site in voluntary cooperation with the Federal, State, and server authorities have developed this system to keep you informed in the event of an comment. If this had been an actual comment,... more... - Scott of Two Countries

Can't touch this. - Mike Reynolds

Surely you are joking with this post. - Alex Scoble

Sheep. ;) - Shey, Jamaican of FF

Umm, maybe this belongs on Twitter, the non-collaborative microblogging platform. - jcunwired

I never do what I'm told. - Robert Scoble

THIS IS REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY I KNOW IT - Mike Nayyar

Done - Håkan Dahlström

The White Horse syndrome. - Nir Ben Yona

See this thread: http://friendfeed.com/e... (Infinite loop!) - Jemm

He said "do not comment and do not 'like' it". So I am only commenting :) - Shey, Jamaican of FF

@ Robert Scoble me too I never do what I'm suppose to do :-) - YoYo_P

meh... I'll do it anyway - Dobromir Hadzhiev

you're not the king of me. - grant fox

Just cuz. - David Cook

Yes sir! I will not respond to this, will not comment and will not 'like' it. NOT :) - imabonehead

javascript:%24%2e%70%6f%73%74%4a%53%4f%4e%28%22%2f%61%2f%63%6f%6d%6d%65%6e%74%22%2c%20%7b%62%6f%64%79%3a%22%4a%69%6d%20%69%73%20%61%77%65%73%6f%6d%65%21%22%2c%65%6e%74%72%79%3a%22%66%63%65%38%35%63%38%32%35%35%66%66%34%66%37%61%61%30%38%30%39%39%61%31%63%34%34%37%36%65%32%36%22%7d%29 - Louis Gray

LOUIS!!!! You borked FF dangnabbit! - WorldofHiglet

Higlet, this was the right post in which to do it. :) - Louis Gray

Oh lord. Now you've gone and done it. You've created a black hole in the fabric of the universe and we will all be sucked into an alternate reality. Thankfully we won't notice, because we will still see a reality. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)

I feel all dirty now - Robert Kenney

While that might be true, Louis, watching the sideways scroll plus realtime is too trippy! - WorldofHiglet

Now open this post in FireFox, Higlet. - Louis Gray

Haha! I comment anyway! - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

*hide* - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Pffft. Are you trying to demonstrate that not all browsers are created equal? Not only do I not use FF for FF (you heard) the fact that I did just to make sure highlights a very important point. I discuss that more here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/worldof... - WorldofHiglet

Failure to Obey - :-) - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

yes, Dan, there's always one....:) - WorldofHiglet

lol! Thanks WorldofHiglet :-) - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

Though in this case, more than one :)) - WorldofHiglet

I like many others will also refrain from commenting here. This is just silly and I don't do silly. Sorry - Brent - Loving Life

Done and done! - mark

Today is opposite day right? - Jesse Newhart

I never knew I was a friendfeeder... - Mike Nencetti

˙ɟɟnʇs ʎƃoloɥɔʎsd ǝsɹǝʌǝɹ ǝɹǝɥʇ ʇɐɥʇ puɐʇsɹǝpun ʇ,uop ı - Sharon McPherson

There is no "do not like it" button in FF ! - Antoine Bertier

What ever you say ; - Martin Liechti from Nambu

ok i will not - (jeff)isageek

Make sure you hide his thread from today - Matthew DeVries

I suck at following directions. - Laura Norvig

oh man, why not? Now I'm confused!! - Connie Crosby

but, but... - Rick Cogley

Leo Laporte

Today at 5p Pacific, a Gillmor Gang special, live from the Facebook announcement: http://live.twit.tv.

April 27 - Comment - Like - Share

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Hi Leo...Maybe I'm being stupid, but I'm in the UK at the moment and even for a night owl like me may peak by 5pm! How can I watch a recording tomorrow? Advice appreciated... - Jan Simmonds

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@Jan you may have to wait for the audio recording to get posted at gillmorgang.techcrunch.com. it usually takes 2-3 days. - Christopher Harris

@Jan You can wait for it to come out on http://odtv.me usually within two days - Eevee

Thanks Chris - Shame - might do more coffee! - Jan Simmonds

The word "graph" has jumped to the primary conversation. - Cliff Gerrish

Will my data marked "everyone" be available as an RSS feed? - Cliff Gerrish

Facebook hearts open...hahaha... - Mike Nayyar

So Plaxo is taking the charge with this "news stream" idea? - Mike Nayyar

Do people think "Comcast" when they hear "Plaxo?" - Cliff Gerrish

Somebody teach John McCrea how to make a PowerPoint that doesn't look like it's from 1998 - Pat Hawks

I don't use plaxo, should I? - Christopher Harris

No interest in using Plaxo whatsoever. - Mike Nayyar

I always forget that Plaxo has a Soc. Media aspect---I just use it to sync contacts and calendar--it's good for that. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

is plaxo realtime? - Christopher Harris

@Christopher ROTFL - Pat Hawks

I can see the linking friends who use two of the same service being useful, but, I enjoy keeping aspects of my social life separated from each other. - Mike Nayyar

So how is what we've seen different from what Facebook connect already kinda sorta did already? - Mike Nayyar

The permission sets in Facebook allow you to keep them separate if you want to. You can scope the broadcast of your stream. - Cliff Gerrish

It's sorta like Facebook Connect for the Major sites. - Cliff Gerrish

Scoble's beard! - Pat Hawks

Tell Scoble the sound is scrambled -- or can you fix that @leolaporte? - Cliff Gerrish

Better now. - Cliff Gerrish

watching now... nice to keep up with all this stuff when deadlines are looming.. - Paul Lindner

how close to realtime will the outgoing facebook data feed be i wonder.. - Christopher Harris

Nice. Silverlight and the Facebook stream.... - Cliff Gerrish

MSFT: the power of software and an open API... - Cliff Gerrish

OpenID ftw! - Pat Hawks

Facebook as a Relying Party is big news -- it's the beginning of realtime identity. The social web requires it. - Cliff Gerrish

"Realtime" Identity? - Pat Hawks

If you're logged in to Google and you open Facebook -- via OpenID, you're already logged in. Seamless. - Cliff Gerrish

Ok, but has nothing to do with Realtime - Pat Hawks

It has everything to do with realtime - persistent identity is in real time. - Cliff Gerrish

No. Realtime is just the buzzword of the moment. - Pat Hawks

Is this the live room/post? - Wayne Sutton

The live convos more over here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Ken Sheppardson

shall i come in and join you all? - Kevin Marks

HEre, kevin: http://beta.friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Ken Sheppardson

Robert Scoble

To all those who said celebrities will destroy Twitter: Bah! You're wrong. Twitter's just as banal today as it was last Monday.

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Hahaha... true - Johnny Worthington

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Only now we have Tweetie for Mac so we can read even more banal tweets per second. Sigh. - Robert Scoble

best Scoble post of all time. - Jim: Dead Like FF

Well, at least I found an update worthy of going on a Tshirt! - Chris Parton

amen - Alejandro

Wow you guys really not keen on twitter round here are you! - Scott Gould

Scott: Twitter doesn't recommend following me, and I don't recommend following it. I do use it, though, and have for years. - Robert Scoble

also, it doesn't matter if celebs are on twitter. the best part about twitter is that you only see what you want to see. you don't HAVE to subscribe to the celebs any more than you HAVE to read the tabloids every week. - girk

hahahahaha - J. Abdul-Qahhar

girk: I autofollow anyone who follows me so that my followers can send me DMs. Unfortunately that means more and more spammers and robot accounts. - Robert Scoble

i'm more concerned about all of the illiterates who are joining. it hurts my eyes and my brain and my heart to read all of their terrible excuses for the english language. same solution as before (ie don't follow them), but since my username is @melissa now, i see them a LOT in my @reply tab...... - girk

girk: yeah, luckily I'm safe from the worst of that, although I'm watching a lot of average Tweets just to see what effect the masses are having on Twitter. So far I don't see much of any effect at all. This post was halfway in jest, but it's closer to the truth than you might realize. - Robert Scoble

I know you do - and it was on your recommendation I started with FriendFeed (albeit, still getting into it) - Scott Gould

http://blog.famebook.com/fameboo... - Jan Simmonds

LOL - it's so true. Genuine connections are becoming harder and harder to come by - Scott Gould

I'm guilty in adding Ashton & Demi. I added them before Ashton had the "war" with CNN though. I also have Brent Spiner (but if he keeps it up, I'm going to unflollow him), LeVar Burton, Anderson Cooper and Stephen Fry. Stephen's tweets are sometimes amusing. *lol* I refuse to add Oprah or any other celeb though. - Molly, "sorry"

I look back on the time that I spent on Twitter back in mid and late 2007 with mostly fond memories. Now, not so much. - Chris Parton

The biggest joke to me is Ashton's declaration of the power of social media - whilst being advertised on TV??? Excellent post for those who haven't read it: http://is.gd/sZLi - Scott Gould

I completely agree - with or without celebs Twitter is what it is and always will be. And, we can use it or not use it accordingly. So what's the big deal? - Martha

It's just as easy to ignore celebs on Twitter as it is anywhere else! - Larry Hawes

http://friendfeed.com/e... Britney Spears' is following ewing2001 on Twitter ; - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010

None of my family members, close friends, or business colleagues use any of these tools (I've always been the resident propeller head), so the crowd on Twitter is actually kind of fun for me. Not at all interested in engaging with the Hollywood celebs, but the the flow of the overall discussion strikes me as worthwhile, probably because I take a pattern recognition approach, and proceed accordingly. For me, the first few go- rounds were less engaging--critical mass lacking. - Kathy Fitch

TWiT Conversations: Leo Laporte

Live Now: this WEEK in TECH 190 with @theRealDvorak, @wilHarris, and @nehalia, http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here...

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http://beta.friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Timo Ukkola

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clean version: http://beta.friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Chris Heath

What do you mean, "clean version"? - Michael

Prototype of video+ff thread - http://www.kshep.net/twit/ - Ken Sheppardson

irc chat irc://irc.twit.tv #twitlive - Chris Heath

Scrub it.... - Daniel

evening chaps - Jamie

gotta work with FF a bit on fonts :-) - Ken Sheppardson

yo tweeps :D - ralphsaunders

you can just save source - Ken Sheppardson

yeah, it needs some work. proof of concept - Ken Sheppardson

lost my intenet for a second... car alarm down the road - Chris Heath

Problem exists on FF3, KShep. - Michael

sweet ken... great work there! - Chris Heath

yay Ken! - Thomas James

the video's squished horizontally - Ken Sheppardson

Anyone else having issues with BG on VLC? - Daniel

dammit whats that embed code again guys - ralphsaunders

hey, hey - Mike Scalora

daniel try the #helpdesk channel in the irc chat - Chris Heath

ello - Jackson Pollock

kk - Daniel

LEO, r u going to talk about the Miscrosoft Pub? - Mike Scalora

hola amigos - deelirium

You mod is live now kshep: http://live.twit.tv - Leo Laporte

What time is it there, anyone know? - Daniel

yell john - Jackson Pollock

in england it is 11:17pm - Iain

hello from Italy! Buona Pasqua... - alex

money eggs, ya - Joshua Dale

Leo: cool. there are sure to be glitches :-/ - Ken Sheppardson

No John on the Skypeasaurus... FAIL - Jamie

what chat room are the guests reading? - Mike Scalora

.... the jackson pollock? - ralphsaunders

the IRC mike - Jamie

because he sounds buzzed - Jackson Pollock

love FF integration, great podcast @gillmoregang btw - alex

Anyone else have issues with the video and audio being out of sync? (UK) - Frank

Yeah John doesn't have a camera up there - Leo Laporte

Wow, cool, I love the FriendFeed in the sidebar. - Eric Florenzano

no problems here in London cynion - Jamie

sweet... i like to watch on my pc in fullscreen and use my laptop for the irc chat and the embed ff discussion http://beta.friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Chris Heath

Thanks again chris :) - ralphsaunders

Ohhhh I like the Friend Feed + Twit Live thingy. - Stephen Heron

Testing... - Wilford Tibbetts

John is back great, love/hate him ;) - alex

Cool! It worked. lol - Wilford Tibbetts

new Bitgravity stream works great here in Germany ! FF Integration ROCKS! Greetings... - Frank Coburger

+1 - nautic3l

So Tony Hawk had a very extensive Easter Egg hunt for his fans and he ran the whole thing with Twitter - Great Event - http://minneapolis.metblogs.com/2009... - heyburt

#bitgravity stream in Italy is very good - alex

greetings Frank and alex - Chris Heath

he's cooking - alex

The question of the hour: Will Leo eat fire again after this week's TWiT? If not, what will he eat? That lenovo perhaps? - Daniel

cruchpad #CruchPad!!!! - alex

listen to twit 23 to get the discussion about the initial ebay purchase. dvorak slaughtered the deal - Jackson Pollock

Daniel - lol... - Wilford Tibbetts

first story: http://www.nytimes.com/2009... - Chris Heath

good night people (here is 00:22 am) will listen to the podcast...Ciao :-) - alex

That's business baby! - Daniel

thanks for the hreads up jackson and chris - Jamie

all stories: http://delicious.com/twit/190 - Chris Heath

Hulu is making money Leo - Jamie

hulu = NBC + Fox, right? - Ken Sheppardson

yes Ken - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Hey this is a pretty good idea for commenting. What is this? Friendfeed? - Tokyo Dan

yep - Nick

Yes, Dan - Ken Sheppardson

welcome to friendfeed Tokyo Dan - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

the question is whether its making enough money to cover the increase in losses due to torrenting - Jamie

Whoa. On the main page? - Lise

I wish Hulu had more content and less restrictions, though its more the networks than Hulu. If all of BSG (mini-series to season 4) was on Hulu you wouldn't see me for a week - Daniel

just testing friendfeed - Matthew

twit 23: http://twit.tv/23 - Chris Heath

The UK doesn't need a hulu thing. bbci player... channel 4 after player (even if it does need to be improved). - ralphsaunders

and Id watch full ads as well - Daniel

target advertising - Daniel

@ralph project kangaroo would have been great... especially with Hulu integration (which was rumoured) - Jamie

I'd like Hulu more if they'd quit messing with methods of getting to my TV rather than my computer scren - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

if hulu is not making money then there is no hope for iptv - Zach Scott

Loving Bitgravity, would be awesome if they made an Android+iPhone compatible stream. - Martin Eberhardt

loving the kshep TwiT hybrid - Steve Gillmor

Ralph - there are several shows on hulu that I would like to watch that take ages to come over the UK - Iain

I guess Leo stopped using the Stickam comment system. - Tokyo Dan

Hulu needs to realize a screen is a screen, and it doesn't matter what device is feeding it. - Ken Sheppardson

@Jamie I haven't heard of project Kangaroo.. but judging by the tense you used its no longer about? - ralphsaunders

Friendfeed integration on live.twit.tv is great - Rod Bauer

Hulu is the future, eventually data will be a utility for me to do with what I please and I will watch what I want and when I want to watch it - Daniel

@lain what heroes? or...? - ralphsaunders

tokyo dan, the stickam conversation is still happening on stickam, leo sees it on one of the laptops - Chris Heath

TV advertising down 6% in the UK... Internet up 17% but thats mainly due to search. Display advertising is pretty flat. - Jamie

Heroes, House etc - Iain

Sheppardson > Hulu isn't the ones who want to restrict it. It's the content providers. - Martin Eberhardt

Martin: Whoever it is needs to get clued in :-) - Ken Sheppardson

------AD BREAK AUDIBLE.COM------ - Chris Heath

TWiT looks much better on BitGravity - C.B.

I can hear Calacanis from MAssachusetts..."Auuuudddibblllee..." - Daniel

I see two TWIT.tv threads on FF. - Tokyo Dan

@ralph it was shut down by the comeptition commission. it was essentially a collaboration between the BBC, Channel 4 and ITV... and the CC ruled that it would stifle competition in video content creation - Jamie

http://audible.com/twit2 - Chris Heath

I thought heroes was out on BBCi within an hour it was aired in the UK... i think thats down to the people who produce heroes - ralphsaunders

tokyo dan ... this is the official: http://beta.friendfeed.com/list... - Chris Heath

twacker hitted - Matthew

Ralph - I'm impatient though as it is a few weeks behind - Iain

same with Lost - Iain

Heroes is on BBC iplayer on the 'net, but not on iplayer via cable tv. It's bizarre - Ghworg

<3 Audible. listening to "On the Origin of Species", read by Richard Dawkins, at the moment. loving it. http://bit.ly/QSBOn - Martin Eberhardt

@Jamie, damn that sucks. Would of been cool - ralphsaunders

Hmm... with embedded FF entry, if you float over a username you get a pop-up, but it doesn't fit in the iframe. :-/ - Ken Sheppardson

sounds..... delicious.... I'll be here all week folks - Daniel

BBC don't have the rights for on demand Heroes via a set top box ghworg - Jamie

every place you want to view content requires a separate rights license - Jamie

Yeah the FF integration is very interesting. It makes the episodes searchable. - nautic3l

I love Splendid Table - bill giltner

How is this live FF stream with only comments on TWIT being done? - Tokyo Dan

@lain is it really 3 weeks? damn - ralphsaunders

Think it's 3 - could be wrong though Ralph - Iain

im so jealous.. lol - jplusa

Tokyo: Leo creates an entry on FF for each show. That entry's embedded on live.twit.tv in an iframe. - Ken Sheppardson

cool - Tokyo Dan

But I'm trying to see it on the FF site. - Tokyo Dan

Red Dwarf jumped the shark a little bit. - Matt Leifer

http://beta.friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Ken Sheppardson

ff needs a comment button at the bottom of the feed when it is open - Zach Scott

@tokyo click the time stamp underneath the entry - Jamie

which is better 1080 p or 1080i - ralphsaunders

Tokyo - click the time stamp and you get only this conversation - Iain

@ralphsaunders 1080p - Martin Eberhardt

keep on clicking - Sander

Such a bummer. I cn't get on the live stram - Francine Hardaway

Ah i always forget, cheers @Martin - ralphsaunders

1080i is 720p in disguise - Martin Eberhardt

Yeah :P - ralphsaunders

@ralphsaunders: 1080p. - Daniel Rowley

Red Dwarf jumped the shark, it killed the shark great show - jackygreen

wow... ustream ~10+ sec ahead of bitgravity?? - Ken Sheppardson

is it just me or is twit.tv down friends:pollock - Jackson Pollock

just you - Iain

is there anyway to comment when you have real time pop up opened? - Matthew

Matthew: just scroll to the bottom. Comment box should always be there. - Ken Sheppardson

If I worked at MS I'd be in the pub a lot too - Ghworg

Just combine Pub & Gun Club to save money. - Ken Sheppardson

Wasn't RD filmed using RED hardware?: http://www.red.com/cameras/ - Daniel Rowley

use this link Jackson Pollock http://beta.friendfeed.com/twit-co... - jackygreen

Sabotage! - Steve Durgin

The Pun Club could be amusing - Iain

ken, submit a bug about the mouseover in the embed http://friendfeed.com/about... - Chris Heath

The friendfeed beat is great - Daniel

beta* - Daniel

eric... my son.. john is funny - jplusa

Its teh cable companies! :P - ralphsaunders

thanks jacky - Jackson Pollock

fire ants? - Daniel

np - jackygreen

there isn't one in the popup, but there is one on the regular page. oh well - Matthew

the T word, no! - Daniel

It went down right after I clicked this link "http://beta.friendfeed.com/twi... - Ken Sheppardson " It brought the whole FF site up in that little comment window. - Tokyo Dan

those pirates - Daniel

hah. wil has the "crazy americans, always think terrorists are everywhere" -look on him. crazy yanks - Jackson Pollock

any backdrop/link to this story? I have no idea what they are talking about. - Jamie

Stopping people getting on the internet doesn't really cause "terror" though does it? - Ghworg

Lots of business relies on it - Iain

for the California crowd, it sure does - Daniel

They cut fiber. It's not just internet. Took down 911 service as well. - Ken Sheppardson

Story - http://www.mercurynews.com/topstor... - heyburt

weld ht e manhole covers shut ;-) - Greg

that would be poor design - Daniel

Ah, taking out 911 is more terrorism-ish. Didn't know that - Ghworg

John Connor was stopping skynet. Your Welcome California! - Daniel

well, doesn't affect cell phones - Jackson Pollock

Harden the internets? - Steve Durgin

Don't click on links in this window cause the website will come up in this little window. - Tokyo Dan

A ship can drop anchor in the wrong spot and take out a cable - Steve Durgin

nooo - Sander

Interesting that its most recently that we've been seeing more news on this sort of thing. Between the malware in the power grid, these fiber sabatoges, and the Chinese GhostNet (Security Now had a great ep on it), its certainly been an interesting cluster of seemingly related events. - Curtis Schweitzer

Do the MAE-West/Central/East exchanges still serve as the critical aggregation that they used to? - Ken Sheppardson

you got a Solid Snake stache - Matthew

Well everything can be disabled since you can not guard all of the infrastructure - Greg

the internet is more cobweb then web - Daniel

nice! i could see me noo on live.twit :) alright alright i know aim silly - Sander

my cousin mikie! - Daniel

"Mikeyy, he'll hack anything" - Matthew

:) NoScript - Sander

Clearly the terrorists are after Twitter too ;) - Curtis Schweitzer

thanks to Steve Gibson, tip of the hat =) - Sander

that's leo's standard pre-puberty voice tho - Jackson Pollock

Noscript doesn't help if you use twitter, because you will have enabled js for twitter is you use it regularly - Ghworg

Ya twitter is a critical part of the internet according to Leo - Greg

i was borred =) so ..... - Sander

I think IE8 is ahead of the other browsers here in respect to anti-XSS - Jamie

He's a child. - Francine Hardaway

thats stupid - ralphsaunders

"An open letter to the FBI..." - Ken Sheppardson

omg:p - Sander

knock knock.. - Greg

He might be brighter than you think...If he didn't do it! - pmclem

be careful making fun of a kid who hacked twitter - Matthew

who's there?? - Sander

who's there? - Steve Durgin

Ice cream soda - Ken Sheppardson

micky!!! - Sander

FBI is Mikey there - Greg

Snake? - ralphsaunders

/me has totally lost confidence in twitter... i'm done with it... only send to it from friendfeed now - Chris Heath

Snake ! ! ! - Matthew

FBI @Greg yeah we have him :) - Sander

SNAAAAAAAKE?! - ralphsaunders

he's getting early to bed this week - Sander

lol - ralphsaunders

Why would he admit to it? He's a minor and knows full-well that he's going to get nothing more than slap on the wrist. - Phil Essing

lets ddos him :) - Sander

h - Dan Moutal

ya - Greg

hey leo, maybe he's german - Jackson Pollock

If friendfeed had a way to automatically make imaginary friends for all your twiiter contacts that aren't on FF then I'd probably stop going to twitter. - Ghworg

someone here has to hack the confiker bot net and then ddos micky :p - Sander

ghworg, you can, but have to add the feeds manually too it - Chris Heath

agreed ghworg. or at least simply implement a full client access into the site. so that all of your tweets come into FF. - Jamie

I hear the sound of lawyer, writing down everything that John just said - Kim Landwehr

a way to fight terms of service - people have wanted to do this for awhile haven't they? - Xenophrenia

Real time rocks. - Wo

it's standard phising. did it in high school and got everybody's itslearning accounts. basically just edit all the /dir/dir/ to http://twitter.com/dir/dir in the code and implement it. change the user and password boxes scripts to save input and then redirect to twitter.com, - Jackson Pollock

If you can read this, send help! I'm trapped inside FriendFeed Beta and it's hungry! - Daniel

hey, that's real name - Jackson Pollock

lets see, what we can find in the code - Sander

i'm from wyoming - Jackson Pollock

cody - Jackson Pollock

I think the Terms of Service contract, if it gave permission to hack, would be void as against public policy. - Michael

so you arent' the real jackson pollock? - ralphsaunders

Cool. My text was shown on twit. - Wo

ralph; en.wikipedia.org/Jackson_Pollock think again. - Jackson Pollock

that would be tough, as the real JP is dead - Phil Essing

phil; yeah, there's the small hole in the whole thing - Jackson Pollock

throwing paint at a wall has never been the same since - Phil Essing

is it not a problem that the api of twitter is so open? I mean cant they do something about it? like first mail to them and then have acces to the api?? - Sander

phil; don't disrespect. pollock was arguably the best american artist of the 20th century. - Jackson Pollock

next story: http://online.wsj.com/article... - Chris Heath

When I was in college we didn't have 100MB didn't exist :-/ - Ken Sheppardson

@JP and @PE I was about to say... - ralphsaunders

Emperor Jobbs. - Daniel

lol - Iain

i would agree that he was arguably the best artist of the 20th century... and I would be on the side of the argument that says he was not - Phil Essing

The more you tighten your grip the more customers will slip through your fingers. - Ghworg

i was waiting for that. - Jeremy Robbins

sure jobs still is ni power posituion - Sander

phil; good we have an expert like you here to straighten us out - Jackson Pollock

@leolaporte twit.tv Website is down for me. - Michael

somebody just said today he's leading the netbook effort... where was that... - Ken Sheppardson

micheal; me too - Jackson Pollock

http://twitter.com/gruber... - Ben Gold

Steve is currently working on an iPub for the Apple Campus - Lewis

@Ghworg Unless you use 2 hands! - ralphsaunders

michael: dog slow, but it works... - Holger Eilhard

so, having an opinion about a topic that is purely subjective is me presuming to be an expert? - Phil Essing

@Michael twit.tv is up for me - Bernardo Farah

Steve Jobs is like Fidel now: we never know what's true or not. - Fernando

well, yes, i am an expert on the topic of my own taste in art - Phil Essing

@jackson pollock I can ping it but can't get through on HTTP, so I think the Web server (Apache?) is down. - Michael

I'm loving the FF bit gravity mashup! - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

"BREAKING NEWS: Steve Jobs continues to do exactly what he said he was going to do while on medical leave. MUST CREDIT WSJ." - lol @ Gruber. Perfectly put. - Jamie

It wasn't an official statement about Jobs. It was a leak - Keith Makuck

Oh, twit.tv just came back for me. - Michael

Can't be sued for something someone said you said. - Keith Makuck

Apple *is* evil - Ghworg

phil; well, someone educated on the issue would have an argument about him and 3-4 others, not write him off immediately - Jackson Pollock

Apple may be evil, but it's OUR evil - Daniel

In the future there will be no need to login every site you go to... we will not need passwords - jplusa

they just saying, yeah steve is back, but he isnt :) just for the stock - Sander

FF Real time stream in the same window as TWIT is really cool. - Wo

leo needs 1password - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

michael; same here. wait long enough and you'll get text no css - Jackson Pollock

I jumped over to ustream - live.twit.tv down - heyburt

oh please... i need a degree in the arts before i can comment on art? - Phil Essing

Finally Dvorak is back! - Mike Vierow

google news wired news story about jobs link leo: http://blog.wired.com/busines... - Chris Heath

Steve is coming back. This is my prediction. - Wo

I agree with Cris - Jamie

This is like a chat room! - Mike Vierow

ind BitGravity is a bit slower, the stream is more buffering - Sander

But it's higher quality. - Mike Vierow

I genuinely believe he just needed time off to recover. but its no more serious than that. - Jamie

go to ustream - Terrence Hudgen

cool hé! like twitter but more like a chat - Sander

Apple makes more money with Jobs as the face - Matthew

Apple will throw in a surprise, Bill Gates will come in instead of SJ - Daniel

From the same fantastic sources that declared him dead five months ago... - Jack Zimmermann

ustream doesn't have this live friendfeed thing. - Mike Vierow

Like Fidel, Jobs will pass Apple to is less evil brother... :) - Fernando

now aim on the irc the live and here :) - Sander

thank god i have a fiew monitors :) - Sander

This is better than IRC. - Mike Vierow

If Jobs doesn't come back Steve Gillmor should run apple. - Wo

you can get that by it self at friend feed. - Jeremy Robbins

On an unrelated note, I'm bummed since FF threads are no longer real-time for me :( - Bwana ☠

Bwana, why aren't they real-time for you? - Matthew

mike, one thing irc has is tab-complete... wish i had that here - Chris Heath

I see Leo is holding a longboard skateboard on his ustream show info panel - Leo is radical - heyburt

What would we use tabs for here? - Mike Vierow

FF + Ustream compact-mashup: http://bit.ly/yDp1p - Martin Eberhardt

If Jobs doesn't go back, Kevin Rose should take over - Harvey Birdman

Tab-complete would be excellent. Not sure it is technically possible though - Ghworg

mike, in IRC you can tab-complete user names so you don't have to type them out fully and reduce the typo factor - Chris Heath

Gillmor - Wo

I'm telling you Jobs is working on the iPub for the Apple campus, Schilller Shots and Jonathan Ive is almost finished crafting the iPint Glass - Lewis

yeah ghworg, but i can still wish for it - Chris Heath

and the dance between yahoo and microsoft starts again, its like a soap opera that never ends - Kim Landwehr

Steve or no Steve. The person running the actual strategy and product development; the identity of Apple, is Jonathan Ive. Steve's entire success can be traced back to Ive' strategy and methodology. Steve and Jony talk once a day. He introduced Apple to the few products - fewer products that has been so successful. As an industrial designer, he changed the way Steve looked at products, materials, process. The white plastic cover of the Ipod, the scroll wheel click, the aluminium unibody. - Jackson Pollock

Beats me Matthew, one day they were, and then the next they weren't. I have to manually refresh threads now. - Bwana ☠

its all about the search market share - Jamie

yahoo gives MS another 10% - Jamie

Isn't Yahoo Search Google anyway? - Ben Gold

Bwana: Is your pause icon a little triangle or two vertical lines? ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

that's weird, I've got the real-time thread for TWiT open in a mini window - Matthew

Bwana: Look to the right of the screen and make sure Real-time is in bold and Standard is a link. - Michael

@Ben nop:) not the same - Sander

bwana: http://beta.friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Jackson Pollock

embed doesn't do pausing - ralphsaunders

Ken, I'm on the thread. No pause icon :) - Bwana ☠

talk about this device called "peek" - abie

Yes, I'm here - http://beta.friendfeed.com/twit-co... - Bwana ☠

Is the rest of Twit.Tv acting slow for anyone? - Mike Vierow

Microsoft should acquire Yahoo...merge with Time Warner...run all online growth under TIME brand...Microsoft and Yahoo focus on Tech and Time Warner focus on content and style... THE front window of the future...imho - Jan Simmonds

Bwana: If you're paused on the main site, i'll bet everything pauses - Ken Sheppardson

So let me refresh to see what you all said. - Bwana ☠

mike: yes; - Jackson Pollock

TWIT GOT TWITTED! - Mike Vierow

Ken - I'm not paused - Bwana ☠

@leolaporte: Jason Calacanis wants to join in. See his Twitter... - Holger Eilhard

------AD BREAK http://squarespace.com/twit ------ - Chris Heath

I just clicked that link Bwana, and it's real-time. maybe you got hacked by Mikeyy - Matthew

holger; quiet - Jackson Pollock

lol - Holger Eilhard

just kidding, john and jason don't go very well together. - Jackson Pollock

I skip the ads in the podcast. - Mike Vierow

Jeez... something leaking like a sieve in FireFox... mem is through the roof (243M and counting) BG player? - Ken Sheppardson

Holger: But Calacanis and Dvorak don't get along... - Michael

Do you have to be subscribed? - pmclem

I know, I know... - Holger Eilhard

the ads aren't too bad most of the time though cause it’s the gang talking about ti most of the time and it makes it interesting and involving. - Daniel

My firefox is at 310 MB, with no BG - Matthew

Did someone say balmer? - http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084... - ralphsaunders

and we are done with the Audible ad... - Holger Eilhard

funny this ad is going on. considering twit.tv is down - Jackson Pollock

my firefox is at 236 MB on OS X with BG - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

hmm - ralphsaunders

http://www.getpeek.com/ - abie

*tries something new* - ralphsaunders

Jackson: It's up here. No issues at twit.tv - Ken Sheppardson

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos..." title="pisstake of ballmer by rsaunders_ths, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084..." width="800" height="164" alt="pisstake of ballmer" /></a> - ralphsaunders

nah didn't work :P - ralphsaunders

Speaking of Digg - any chance of a discussion re. Diggbar? - Frank

Jackson Pollock> I don't think twit.tv is running in squarespace... leoville does - Martin Eberhardt

not to mention this is being recorded - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

oh yeah, discuss the Diggbar! - Martin Eberhardt

That's way too soon. - Mike Vierow

diggbar should be interesting... - Holger Eilhard

Before - ralphsaunders

Palm have to get out before the iPhone - Jamie

otherwise it will cut off its air supply. - Jamie

Funny video shows a toddler that loves the iPhone... http://bit.ly/4l7b6 - Matthew

jamie, agreed - Holger Eilhard

They'll release it as soon as they can get it ready. They're not gaming the release data around iPhone. - Ken Sheppardson

those 1st Gen iPhone users are coming to the end of their contracts in June. Its Palms best chance - Jamie

I popped my sim card in my blackberry pearl and my nokia e61... felt like I traveled back in time :) - Bwana ☠

ken, i use the twitlive air app (still on stickam) ... i've been nonplussed by the bg player so far - Chris Heath

Howard Stern was granted a private viewing with Palm of the Pre. For an hour and a half he used it, and then passed on it for a Blackberry. He did get the impression that it would be coming out in May, but not worth waiting. - Jackson Pollock

What's the point? They're all to expensive for me anyway. - Mike Vierow

Jackson: What I heard was as soon as he found out the Pre won't support Lotus Notes (which he needs) he punted. - Ken Sheppardson

whats the price for the pre? - ralphsaunders

looks like the Palm Pre will come out at a $199 pricepoint - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

or suspected price - ralphsaunders

ralph: not announced - Ken Sheppardson

see $199 is not bad - ralphsaunders

*hugs BlackBerry Storm* - Andrew

Howard Stern got a Blackberry because he uses Lotus Notes and niether the Palm Pre or iPhone have great Lotus notes support compared to the Blackberry - Matthew

ralphsaunders: for most probably the "it's not an iphone"... - Holger Eilhard

;) - Holger Eilhard

blackberry are finished imo - Jamie

Ken; that wasn't it. it just didn't do anything special. iphone has the browser, the podcasting. Blackberry the lotus notes and the keyboard. The Pre really didn't have anything. - Jackson Pollock

LOL - Bwana ☠

You cannot resist the iPhone. Join us, give in to your hatred! - Daniel

Dvorak cracks me up - Bwana ☠

looks like @jasoncalacanis is trying to get in touch with @LeoLaporte - Kim Landwehr

@holger tbh I hate the iphone keyboard >< - ralphsaunders

I have sprint SERO so I am very interested in the Pre - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Where's Dvorak? - Mike Vierow

basting. - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

:p - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

i'm pleased w/ the iphone keyboard/touch - Chris Heath

One phone won't save an entire company. Too little too late. - Jackson Pollock

The Palm Prey vs the iPhone Predator - Lewis

ok this is why i hate apples - ralphsaunders

@ralphsaunders I'm fine with the on screen keyboard, but I can understand people who aren't. - Holger Eilhard

fiend feed "chat" huh? - clewellyn

Trust in the steve? wtf is this - ralphsaunders

I look at the Pre and think - the keyboard is too small. - Jamie

Ive is working on on-screen vibration to give feedback to your fingers. Matter of time. - Jackson Pollock

Sounds like Suretype :) - Bwana ☠

@holger yeah its preference i guess. - ralphsaunders

at least with the iPhone it figures out what I wanted to type - Jamie

It's funny how you can pick out people preconceptions and biases as they speculate with absolutely no real info whatsoever. - Ken Sheppardson

i trust in steve and that happens all the time... i never thought of it that way, but it does work - Chris Heath

I'm looking forward to the Pre in the hope it means I get a choice to make when I am ready to change my iphone - Iain

centro keys are tiny I went back to a palm 700p so I could type - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

too lmany - ralphsaunders

its user experience - ralphsaunders

we should all want the Pre to do well... the iPhone needs a proper competitor - Phil Essing

what the !@# are you talking about? - Ken Sheppardson

I really need to get an iPhone, i feel so left out. - Willem (@wim66) ☠

pre vs android is the story I'm looking at - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

the pre looks amazing but nothing is going to take me away from the iphone - Lise

I hate refreshing..going to irc - Bwana ☠

@ralphsaunders the apps, overall ease of use, etc. are more important than a physical keyboard for me... - Holger Eilhard

The pre is all about the web, the idea is to sync with the cloud not the desktop. A bad idea in my opinion, but we'll see - Ghworg

let's be honest. what made the iphone more successful than the others; 1. the design and interaction. 2. the brand and buzz. 3. the marketing and news - Jackson Pollock

what is the delicious url for this show? - Xenophrenia

i'm hoping that android will be mature in a year and a half when my iphone contract is up... i'll check in on the phone wars then and no sooner - Chris Heath

bwana your refreshing? - ralphsaunders

i don't think copy/paste in iphone 3.0 is a coincedence... i think the imminent Pre forced Apple's hand - Phil Essing

you shouldn't have to - ralphsaunders

http://delicious.com/twit/190 - Holger Eilhard

http://delicious.com/twit/190 - Michael

agree ghworg..the cloud works for a lot of things but not media - Jamie

bwana is trolling - Jason Nelson

NO!! Ive's team is 12 people, and has been the same team for 15 years. The original iPhone developers are at Apple still. - Jackson Pollock

lol @jason - ralphsaunders

:) - Jason Nelson

rubenstein wasnt even involved with the iPhone - Jamie

Andoid is great, but is there a quality handset using it, yet? - Phil Essing

:) - Mike Vierow

i posted the del.icio.us link way at the top... when the show started - Chris Heath

thnx - Xenophrenia

Is Android open source? - Mike Vierow

I want Andriod, but it needs a better handset than the G1 - Ghworg

the gmail client in android is killer. - Jamie

the gmail client on the iphone is killer too jamie - Chris Heath

The OS is great, the device sucks - Ben Gold

the G1 is crap... horrible battery, ugly, and too thick - Phil Essing

It's an OEM phone. People who love software, make their own hardware. - Jackson Pollock

did they build the G1 around a sidekick? they look a lot alike - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

what gmail client on the iPhone? the web app? - Jamie

everyone agrees the problem with android right now is the G1 hardware - Chris Heath

lol thats not hacking - ralphsaunders

leo - ralphsaunders

aw how sweet, - Kim Landwehr

jamie, yes the web app is awesome - Chris Heath

leo teach em to mod! - ralphsaunders

"read this law book first..." - Ken Sheppardson

How is it possible to say the iPhone is fragile. Drop glass on the ground and it will break. What do you expect - Jackson Pollock

thats SO COOL - ralphsaunders

for a web app its great but not fast enough. no real offline etc - Jamie

leo was anti Jailbreak for a long time, what changed? - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Gunther apple - ralphsaunders

let's see Jason and we can judge :-) - Ken Sheppardson

apple stayed the same is it for the tethering? - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Nice john - ralphsaunders

John, come to Norway and we'll hook you up with some nice speeds - Jackson Pollock

EDGE hurts me... - Martin Eberhardt

Martin Unlucky - ralphsaunders

korea and japan have incredible ftth connections - Jamie

Sweden has such nice internet - ralphsaunders

Norway! We beat the Swedes every year, marone! - Jackson Pollock

home of the pirate bay :P - ralphsaunders

the bandwidth in the US shouldn't be as low as it is. - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

I have 100 right now, geeeq - Jackson Pollock

yeah but the US is huge! - ralphsaunders

24 here in the UK - Jamie

Gunther; it's a really, really really big country - Jackson Pollock

though some cable is 50 - Jamie

I have 6 MBit DSl and that's fast for around here - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

lol - Greg

Jamie for real? thats good - ralphsaunders

The cool thing here is that everything is a-sync, same speed up and down. - Jackson Pollock

Ok. That's funny. - Wo

talk about Diggbar - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

http://www.speedtest.net/ - ralphsaunders

WHEN WILL THE ZUNE DIE - Ben Gold

Can get 50MB on virgin media in the UK is some areas as they role it - have to pay £30 for the upgraded cable router - Iain

Is there an audio only twit feed? - Ken Sheppardson

sms story: http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article... - Chris Heath

4.83Mbps biatches! - ralphsaunders

We have a constant 50mb down here - Kiel Walker

twit.am is audio only - Iain

yeah for sure - ralphsaunders

ken: http://twit.am - Chris Heath

I love my unlimited text and data for 30 bucks a month - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

hey wyoming - Jackson Pollock

I remember 10 years ago when I was on 56K in the UK and the States were on 2/4MB - Jamie

turn off? LOL - ralphsaunders

the 50mb is only 1.5 up though which sucks so bad - Iain

along with 500 mins - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Holy sh** - ralphsaunders

yeah that's a lot of texts - Chris Heath

Virgin looking into the 1.5mb upload though - Kiel Walker

"but she got a sweet deal on the minutes" lol - ralphsaunders

virgin have a harsh "fair use" policy though - Jamie

Who is on TWIT? I am not watching. - Kiko Cherman

GO COLORADO! - Mike Vierow

How can you disable texting? Seriously. - ralphsaunders

kiko read the title of this entry - Chris Heath

@Kiko: "Live Now: this WEEK in TECH 190 with @theRealDvorak, @wilHarris, and @nehalia"?! - Holger Eilhard

Virgin harsh fup but they never stop you downloading - Kiel Walker

I never text anymore - Kiel Walker

No geeks are cheap and use email. - ralphsaunders

Sometimes people get on. - Kiko Cherman

our generation in the uk are moving on to facebook rather than sms and mms - Jamie

He just sits there and bounces on his ball - Martin Eberhardt

He sits there and boucnes on his ball and occasionaly gets nerf things shot at him. - ralphsaunders

bah you beat me martin :P - ralphsaunders

It's so weird. SMS came to Europe fully in 2001-2002 - Jackson Pollock

text message is way to expensive to use. - Kim Landwehr

sms in the uk has been popular for years now - Iain

kim; about 10 cents per message - Jackson Pollock

as will says its super cheap - Iain

I started using my parents' phone to text in the late 90's.. - Martin Eberhardt

yeah, because calling is more expensive - ralphsaunders

Voicemail isn't here in Europe no. Nobody I know - Jackson Pollock

texting isnt cheap - Jamie

5-10p for 160 characters isnt cheap! - Jamie

Dvorak is funny - Kiko Cherman

unlimited text in '99 was $5 in the States. stopped using it years ago after I left t-mobile. - Jason Nelson

John doesn't have voicemail - Jackson Pollock

texting isn't cheap in the US - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Jamie - Thats pay as you go which is a total rip off anyway - Iain

Jackson: In Germany 99 percent of cellphone users I know have voicemail enabled - Holger Eilhard

I think also in the UK its become very fashionable between (and i hate to use this phrase) the lower class to have the latest phone so that also boosts the market. - ralphsaunders

same on contract Iain - Jamie

Holger; on lan lins? - Jackson Pollock

on LAN lines* - Jackson Pollock

ok does FF have an ignore? - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

I think there has been a definite shift in the UK towards Facebook and Twitter over texting.. - Jamie

I didn't text much before the iPhone. - Scot Gardner

why doesn't anyone seriously question how much they charge for these messages - Xenophrenia

Gunther: What is it you're trying to do? - Ken Sheppardson

Jackson: land lines? not so much. I believe only Telekom is offering that. - Holger Eilhard

I guess I see it as cheap cos I have never in 9 years managed to huit my bundled limit - i think i have 4 months worth rolled over at my peak - Iain

ignore teh spammer we sem to have n the room - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

I agree Jamie... to facebook deffinately... the more 'plugged in' group of my friends have also moved to twitter although that is a small minority - ralphsaunders

Holger; Americans expect a box that answers the number they are calling, and that they can leave a message there - Jackson Pollock

gunther there's a block go to their page and block (next to subscribe) - Chris Heath

thx - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

who did he think he was e.e. cummings - Kim Landwehr

Bob Cringely did that to me once - Jackson Pollock

I see the same hockey stick growth curve in twitter as I saw on Facebook Ralph - Jamie

person has a private feed - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Jackson: :) well, but they also get charged for being called. A thing I probably never will understand... ;) - Holger Eilhard

gunther, doesn't look like the beta has the block on it.. go here http://friendfeed.com/sarrah0... - Chris Heath

Thx Chris - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Holger; I agree. The phone companies own the Congress - Jackson Pollock

Jamie really? Maybe among the older of the people I know across the internet but among the chavs i don't see any adoption. - ralphsaunders

i blocked as well - Chris Heath

leo better has the diggbar on his agenda :) - Holger Eilhard

Follow me on Twitter! @mvierow - Mike Vierow

trust me ralph... twitter is next. adoption here is far quicker than the States. but I agree its starting with an older demographic.. - Jamie

go away Mike - Martin Eberhardt

The diggbar is balls. - ralphsaunders

B G buffering - Greg

You can also report spam FF users at http://beta.friendfeed.com/friendf... - Ken Sheppardson

Yeah I can see twitter being next. I think I might get into user interface development in that area... it might become profitable for a short while :P - ralphsaunders

And most expensive college system. - Jackson Pollock

Interesting essay on granting visas to folks who want to start companies: http://www.paulgraham.com/founder... - Ken Sheppardson

Why would you got to college in America? I don't get it... - ralphsaunders

They had schools then? - Ken Sheppardson

americans don't have much choice ralph - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

haha - ralphsaunders

ralph; me neither. looks nice on your essay, and is very efficient, but one step down; 100% free I can get right here. - Jackson Pollock

expensive to study abroad - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Gunther I meant immigrants specifically - ralphsaunders

G Gunther; free school in scandinavia - Jackson Pollock

oh gotcha carry on - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

the UK is becoming expensive. and will get further if they raise the fees again to £5k - Jamie

Physics - Ben Gold

Social Media - Ken Sheppardson

Industrial Design. Beginning in august - Jackson Pollock

^-- joke - Ken Sheppardson

Social Media? - Scot Gardner

Nursing Education - Misha

journalism - Jayesh

Jamie: they are putting the same together over here in Germany... - Holger Eilhard

Janitor - Martin Eberhardt

journalism - Kim Landwehr

Jayesh; there's a ballsy choice - Jackson Pollock

journalism is dead - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Computer Security - Kiel Walker

----- AD BREAK http://gotomypc.com/twit ----- - Chris Heath

Leo became wi - Ben Gold

not that I wanted to... but it's a guess :P - Martin Eberhardt

well leo said it would shock you - Jayesh

i like go to my assist ... http://gotomyassist.com - Chris Heath

http://gotomyassist.com is for remote access tech support sessions - Chris Heath

Man I was using citrix 10 years ago. Glad it's still around - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

I'm going with Jayesh on this one, it would be the most unlikely their for shocking - Kim Landwehr

sorry to say, but I like teamviewer better for on-the-fly tech-support for your folks. - Martin Eberhardt

gotomypc=citix - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

martin, have you tried gotomyassist? - Chris Heath

kim; bullseye - Jackson Pollock

gruber is going hard at the diggbar. must be about 10 consecutive posts. - Jamie

no, checked, as far as I can see it's not free. - Martin Eberhardt

next story: http://www.forbes.com/2009... - Chris Heath

i win - Jayesh

when griber gets a bug up his butt, it festers :p - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

martin there's a free trial http://gotomyassist.com/night from net@night - Chris Heath

Chris: I think what you're doing with adding metadata to the feed is really cool. - Eric Florenzano

that is 100% true here in Scandinavia. Like trying to get into medical school - Jackson Pollock

eric, that's the point of all this (as i understand it) - Chris Heath

Jornalism schools are going to start teach Social Media, that would be my thought - Kim Landwehr

are my edits updating in real time?? - Chris Heath

everyone wants to be Perez Hilton - Matthew

No, edits don't update :-( - Ken Sheppardson

I agree with Kim. Journalism schools are also teaching blogging. - Joseph Ferris

we can always use more quality content - Jason Nelson

Everybody wants to be the next Arrington/Huffington - Ken Sheppardson

matthew the thing is, not everybody can be... there's only so many people who can be 'famous' - Chris Heath

Chris Heath, exactly - Matthew

Connecticut School of Broadcasting - Jackson Pollock

lol @ "the paul allen school of broadcasting" - Chris Heath

Who's Will? - Mike Vierow

The intertubes are getting clogged under the atlantic - Ghworg

mike: http://channelflip.com - Chris Heath

we need specialists with journalism skills... not journalists that want to write about specialists - Jason Nelson

the guy in the lower-right corner of the 4-screen setup - Martin Eberhardt

There's still room for more Arrington/Huffingtons though. No, not everyone can be one of them, but definitely more can. - Eric Florenzano

wil haris from the uk, head of channel flip - Jonathan

wow leos update just hit through to live.twit.tv - ralphsaunders

John could use that - Jackson Pollock

@Jonathan > Channel Flop? Oh snap :P - Martin Eberhardt

No Flip - ralphsaunders

:P - ralphsaunders

I hate the term "Blogger". At this point, most of the large blogs are serious publications. - Eric Florenzano

@ralph i knooow, ;-) - Martin Eberhardt

hehe ;P - ralphsaunders

Scary thought, with written SAT's plummeting, journalism spiking - Jackson Pollock

Eric: Gruber had a post about that the other day, or quoted somebody... it's called "writer" :-) - Ken Sheppardson

Wil looks either tired or drunk. perhaps both - Jamie

Rumple of The Bailey - Greg

Jason just set up his ustream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - Holger Eilhard

journalism isn't all that great tbh - ralphsaunders

wil's got a great point here... - Chris Heath

Jamie: It is nearly 1am in the UK - Ghworg

Unfortunately that people think to become a professional "blogger" they need to get a grad level Journalism degree. Sigh. - Ken Sheppardson

This is good stuff. - Mike Vierow

Oh shit. :/ - ralphsaunders

With media expanding in every direction, people who want to be on screen and on air take journalism rather than media. more cred - Jackson Pollock

NY Times headline three years from now: Apple iz teh suxx0rs! - Martin Eberhardt

Ken: Exactly! How is it that Gruber is always right? - Eric Florenzano

Eric: 'cause he just writes to the right stuff other people say ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

s/writes/points/ - Ken Sheppardson

Ghworg - I know as i'm in the UK too. But Wil has been drinking. - Jamie

Theres 20 minutes til 1:00AM - ralphsaunders

Will doesn't look so good. - Mike Vierow

Whereabouts in the Uk do you live Jamie? - ralphsaunders

give him a break. laptop cameras are very nonflattering - Jackson Pollock

im a Mancunian but live in London at the moment. - Jamie

in the us; these days - Jackson Pollock

I'm in Nottingham Ralph - Iain

Jackson> that, and it's late there... - Martin Eberhardt

that's because Journalism is neutral - Ken Sheppardson

I'm in Devon at the moment :) - ralphsaunders

yeah, I'm one hour later too - Jackson Pollock

ooh - I like the new format - Jesse Stay

Jamie does it cost alot to live in London? - ralphsaunders

Nottinham is nice :P - ralphsaunders

the prices of houses here are insane ralph - Jamie

My sister lives in London and says it is expensive - Iain

im a recent grad and its all but impossible to get on the property ladder in london without a £30k deposit - Jamie

:/ ... i doubt I can afford to go to a Uni in London then - ralphsaunders

Nottingham is pretty nice yeah - discounting the idiots that you get in every city - Iain

Weird. As a tech guy I just have no concept of what you'd spend years learning in Journalism grad school - Ken Sheppardson

ouch Jamie - Iain

you're looking at £130 a week for basic Halls in London - Jamie

i have the same thoughts ken - Chris Heath

aww man - ralphsaunders

Can we hear some Leo early tapes. Hit the post - Jackson Pollock

*was* one of those guys? Leo is still one of those guys ;-) - Ghworg

I think that's true of every profession. I have mentors in the programming space. - Eric Florenzano

Leo the Grand-Mentor - Ghworg

and dvorak mentored Leo - Jamie

Let's hear a talk-up Leo - Jackson Pollock

I've never been able to figure out why a job posting site makes cable. - Ken Sheppardson

does anybody have any thoughts about Feedly? - Jamie

Let's hear Wil's take - Jackson Pollock

Would Leo beat up his hookers like the Sham-Wow guy?? I think not. - Chad Albert

We should all go to Amazon and give bad ratings to Monster cables - Matthew

Will hasn't spoke in awhile, I think he is having trouble hearing everything. - Kim Landwehr

Well talk to the lawyer, Wil? - Jackson Pollock

For years I thought it was Monster.com that bought the naming rights for Candlestick PArk - Ken Sheppardson

Diggbar! - Holger Eilhard

50gb nothing here - Kiel Walker

story link: http://www.informationweek.com/news... - Chris Heath

Cap. Welcome to 1999. - Jackson Pollock

unlimited - Jackson Pollock

Jackson: +1 - Holger Eilhard

i download 30gb a day - Kiel Walker

50 gb get you nowhere anymore - John

it was 5/10/40 to start with - Xenophrenia

If TWC caps me that badly, I'll buy a air card - Chad Albert

He said earlier that if you watched twit live 24/7 for a month, it would only be 174GB. - Mike Vierow

$150 is ridiculous. - archaictree

Carbonite would have an issue with a 50 gb cap - Chad Albert

I think the key word is reasonable, I am not sure cable companies know what reasonable - Kim Landwehr

174gb great i leave my computer on - Kiel Walker

here's an article of legislation to prohibit these companies from doing this http://digg.com/tech_ne... - Xenophrenia

i'm on roadrunner, and it's fine for now... no cap - afaik if they change the plans it will only affect new subscribers - i'd be grandfathered in - Chris Heath

i thought it be more than that - Kiel Walker

50GB is a handful of Xbox Live movies - Jamie

don't open to the door to this. - Jackson Pollock

Chris Heath: Thanks for the direct link - Jay Neff

jackson, the doors already open - Chris Heath

Everyone enjoying their weekend? - Jay Neff

Jamie its only a few hours of xbox live play if your the host - ralphsaunders

Chris; in the US. - Jackson Pollock

didnt know hosting was so bandwidth intensive.. - Jamie

some people can't afford 150 a month and use that much - Xenophrenia

How is IPTV going to succeed with this. it's an enormous roadblock - Jackson Pollock

I don't want to go back to how it was on dial-up when I had a clock by the side of the computer so I didn't spend too much time online and get a huge bill - Ghworg

Jamie: By definition it's bandwidth intensive :) Hosting = Bandwidth - Eric Florenzano

ghworg you did that? haha lo-tec :P - ralphsaunders

The cable companies are like crack dealers....get you hooked on the internet, then jack up the rates - Chad Albert

comcast is 200 or 250 - Xenophrenia

Limits cause people to be more conservative in their usage. They will be less likely to try new things, like streaming video. - Ghworg

Ghworg: Compuserve used to charge by the time and they had a big clock on the top right corner of the app. You could set it to kick you off after a certain duration. - Eric Florenzano

they are trying to protect their cable tv and prohibit online tv and video - Xenophrenia

Sure this isn't just a ploy to get people to lock down their Wifi? - Jackson Pollock

router firmware is the place to put the meter... or even better on the cable modem... then you could check on your account page for the isp - Chris Heath

$75 bucks a month is a better price for the top tier. - archaictree

jackson lots of ppl are locking down their wifi here... it's hard for me to get an open ap these days - Chris Heath

most routers come out of the box locked down - Jamie

I pay around $55 for 8 down, 2 up. totally unlimited - Martin Eberhardt

with all media going to the internet, bandwidth caps are going to limit a lot of what you can do - Matthew

If people have limited bandwidth, they'll put a password on the Wifi and force their neighbors to get their own line. - Jackson Pollock

they are having an issue with people cancelling their cable and keeping internet and watching their video online ... that's what they are trying to stop - Xenophrenia

Chris; in san fran? - Jackson Pollock

$203 a month here for Internet and TV here :( I get about 10 down and 1 up - Jay Neff

$62 for 16 down 1 up. 200GB cap - Gabe

bwmonitor.com is a great little app and has great reporting built in - heyburt

30 Euro, 16M down, 1 up, no cap... - Holger Eilhard

nope jackson... mouse over my name - Chris Heath

92gb not much - Kiel Walker

i probably hit that - ralphsaunders

wow no shit Holger? - Jay Neff

Is it Gigabyte or Gigabit? - Jesse Stay

75$ for 50/50 here, unlimited - Jackson Pollock

£18/$25 18 down 2 up - Jamie

oh that is Euros haha - Jay Neff

Jay, nothing unusual in Germany... - Holger Eilhard

Chris; i think the situation is slightly different in san fran. - Jackson Pollock

Jackson: Damn! I want some of that. Who's your ISP? - Eric Florenzano

I'd kill for that Jackson :> - Jay Neff

Leo's pushing everybody over their caps backing up with Carbonite - Chad Albert

i'm paying USD$50 for unlimited 8mbit/s down 384kbit/s up - Chris Heath

Lyse, Norway. - Jackson Pollock

From Australia - generally have caps (10 to 50 GB) and then we either get shaped down to 64Kbps, or get charged 15c /MB - Richard Angus

yeah, company's like carbonite must hate the bandwidth cap - Matthew

americans are getting shafted... makes a change in the tech industry - Jamie

cloud computing is going to suffer with these caps - Xenophrenia

good job Neha! - Jay Neff

Robert, now there's a dj voice - Jackson Pollock

Sometimes guests have trouble interjecting. That's not a problem that Neha had :) - Eric Florenzano

the TWiT brought Neha's site down to its knees - Matthew

I get 16Mb down, 3Mb+ up - $75/mo - Jesse Stay

wil harris is going to bed - Jackson Pollock

I am paying AUD 150 / month for 100 GB - and only 6 MB down with 1 MB up - Richard Angus

David Mitchell is very funny - Ghworg

PEEK SHOW - Ben Gold

jesse is that for internet only? - Jamie

peep - Ben Gold

Jackson, well it's 1am in the uk :) - Holger Eilhard

david mitchell was the PC in the uk Im a Mac ads - Jamie

Isn't everbody in the UK the UK version of John Hodgman? - Ken Sheppardson

nice hair - John

holger; yes. 2am here - Jackson Pollock

jackson: i know *yawn* - Holger Eilhard

UK and US have awesome broadband compared to us poor suckers down under - we get totally shafted - Richard Angus

i'm nocturnal atm. but know the feeling very well - Jackson Pollock

Oh, so UK is on Daylight Time now? - Michael

What's Twitter? - Ken Sheppardson

so no discussion about the diggbar then... - Holger Eilhard

Go Friendfeed! - Mike Vierow

W00t FriendFeed. - Michael

UK is BST - pmclem

<3 FF - jackygreen

British Summer Time - Thomas James

they spoke about diggbar on net@nite - Jamie

beta.friendfeed.com/twit-conversations - don't forget the beta - Jesse Stay

was sayign that its difficult for them to talk about it for obvious reasons - Jamie

Nice. - Ken Sheppardson

My business card has never had Twitter on it. It does have FriendFeed. - Jesse Stay

same reason digg had to defend the digg tm - Jackson Pollock

--------END OF SHOW------ - Chris Heath

Diggbar! - John

this twit stuff. it all came from twig "this week in geek", which leo changed to twit - Jackson Pollock

nooo! - ralphsaunders

bardigg - Eric Florenzano

I have Twoll.com - trying to figure out what to do with it - Jesse Stay

diggfail - Matthew

brian brushwood was awesome - daniel durham

yeah jason was waiting for awhile now. lol - daniel durham

calacanis was waiting for leo to call haha - Chad DeHaan

jason was ustreaming from korea - Jamie

Jason was on ustream a few seconds ago - Jesse Stay

It's Tuesday in Korea. - Ken Sheppardson

why would he have gone to bed. it's morning - Jackson Pollock

ken, you mean monday? - Chris Heath

Leo: It's 9:05am in Korea - Ken Sheppardson

that's what i was thinking jackson - Chris Heath

Chris: No, I was joking :-) - Ken Sheppardson

Be like Mike - Ben Gold

trust in steve - Chris Heath

Google's cool. "Time in Korea" - Ken Sheppardson

Trust Steve's Grip - Eric Florenzano

Here's Jason's Ustream (not on right now): http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - Jesse Stay

It would be awesome if FriendFeed could figure out how to link an IRC server to FriendFeed conversations. Each conversation could get its own channel. - Jesse Stay

Here's a request; get the videos of the old episodes hosted. the best twit's by far were 21, 23, 24, and so on, and they were filmed but are no longer hosted. people would love them, but Leo is holding them back, get them out there! - Jackson Pollock

I like that the bitgravity feed lets you pause and resume without missing anything like the others do. - Jeff

the live twits? - Jamie

my favourite was the one after Apple announced the move to Intel. - Jamie

Jamie; if you read the twit wiki, I listed all the taped live shows, but many are missing hosting, and those who aren't are bad quality mostly. get them really hosted - Jackson Pollock

http://odtv.me/ - Ken Sheppardson

jamie, what ep # was that? - Chris Heath

om nom nom nom nom - ralphsaunders

On-Demand TWiT Video - http://odtv.me - Ken Sheppardson

ep 21 fex; roger mcguinn, dvorak, k-rose, pragor, heron, norton, lindsay. great times, very worth checking out. - Jackson Pollock

Is three easter eggs too much in 9 hours? - ralphsaunders

ken, i think jackson is talking about the early eps back in 05 - Chris Heath

ralph: Sorta depends on the size, I'd say - Ken Sheppardson

jackson, was that the one on couches? - Chris Heath

They weren't too big... like just normal - ralphsaunders

no, at the apple store - Jackson Pollock

the noonan bar and grill was 22,23 and 24. they were great - Jackson Pollock

But I did finish them a few hours ago lol - ralphsaunders

eat it leo! - ralphsaunders

actually I think it was the Tech Guy - Leo had John come on to talk about the move to Intel. John said it was a great move, Leo said Apple would die (something like that!) - Jamie

Jamie; yes that is true. However, early TWiT, the first episode with John on. (I'll check, but around 10) Leo played that interview - Jackson Pollock

wow neha is a fast typist - ralphsaunders

Yeah, you're not actually supposed to eat Peeps. - Ken Sheppardson

:-/ - Ken Sheppardson

the hell are you meant to do with them then - ralphsaunders

blow em up in a microwave? - ralphsaunders

I think they're intended for use as a packing material. - Ken Sheppardson

does anyone know how to tell if you get hit by the xss twitter worm? does it just spam out from your account? - Chris Heath

lol.... - ralphsaunders

yeah those early Twits had a real urgency about them Jackson. - Jamie

---- Mark end of show ---- - Ken Sheppardson

omg I want! - ralphsaunders

Jamie; check out TWiT Episode 8 for the Intel thing, the day before it happened, with the John interview from Tech Guy. - Jackson Pollock

I want one! - John

downloading Jackson - Jamie

thanks for lookin that up jackson - Chris Heath

TWiT swag is cool! - Joseph Ferris

And for those interested. Episodes 15-19 are the best shows they ever made. The I get no spam thing started there, Revision3 early beginning, Kevin talks about first Diggnation shows and so on. Very very very funny. - Jackson Pollock

CAR SHOW - Ben Gold

calm down - ralphsaunders

I remember listening to them at the time. literally recall when John first said he gets no spam and I think Leo just died laughing - Jamie

My dad told me he got no spam and then i showed him his spam box :P - ralphsaunders

Jamie; it was a Steve Gibson - John thing. Steve turned off HTML emails and John yelled at him, saying he got NO SPAM what so ever, with HTML. Steve and John work fantastic together - Jackson Pollock

yeah John said he had this setup from a friend right? - Jamie

final cut pro is heavy duty - ralphsaunders

Jamie; he sends his email and runs his websites on a site called ComputerTime.com if I remember. Mark something - Jackson Pollock

had to go be a parent for a while what did I miss? - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

That is a loud box Leo - Jackson Pollock

and im stuck with a 4 year old laptop that hardly runs photoshop >< - ralphsaunders

Final Cut Pro a great tool - Kiel Walker

I <<< Student <3 - ralphsaunders

There's lots of good open source stuff out there, no need to pirate for the majority of the time nowadays. - Eric Florenzano

are they gonna use BoinxTV for their show? - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Photoshop is design industry standard... its kinda an exception - ralphsaunders

ralphsaunders: Yeah, photoshop and final cut are both exceptions. - Eric Florenzano

final cut is mac only right? - ralphsaunders

people might have my head but I believe Office is an exception too - Jamie

ralph; yes - Jackson Pollock

ralph: Yeah, but substitute Premiere Pro for Final Cut on the Windows side. - Eric Florenzano

Damn you apple! *shakes fist* >< - ralphsaunders

Premiere Pro.... hmm - ralphsaunders

ralph; get a mac - Jackson Pollock

Got some spare money? - ralphsaunders

:P - ralphsaunders

Queue it up - Ken Sheppardson

ah premiere pro is adobe software :D - ralphsaunders

14% student discount at the Apple store - Jamie

I think I have £20 in my box :P - ralphsaunders

ralph; sell your pc. if you want to run a program like final cut, a cheap pc won't work. apple is expensive yes, but thats what's needed 90% of the time - Jackson Pollock

lol @ the Computer Answer Man - Jamie

Ha! That computer video is classic. - Eric Florenzano

uhhhhh that needs to be Leo's avatar - Chad DeHaan

I would build my own PC... I'm not stupid :D. But the Apple side of things I think is a bit much for me. It will probably go on a student loan when i go to uni - ralphsaunders

LEO: AVATAR - Ken Sheppardson

hackintosh ralph hackintosh - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

It looks like 1-800-BASH-LEO - Jesse Stay

He looks older in that pic than he does now. But yeah, that needs to be his avatar. - Eric Florenzano

yes ken, yes! - Chris Heath

I agree Eric... hes "aged" well - Jamie

Nah I wanna go clean from Uni onwards G - ralphsaunders

(Chris DeHaan's idea :-) - Ken Sheppardson

Gunther, no no no no. you'll be disgusted by final cut forever if you try to do it on a non-mac. - Jackson Pollock

lol that sounded kinda gangster "g" :P - ralphsaunders

except for EFI, you can build a non mac identical to Apple Hardware - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

You look like a male model - Jackson Pollock

I have a Mac, AND a hackintosh - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Did anyone see Randal Schwartz do Karaoke on Ustream last night? - Mike Vierow

uni has left me £18k in debt :-( - student loan repayments start this month - Jamie

http://i44.tinypic.com/2crucz4... - Ken Sheppardson

Jamie I thought you didn' - ralphsaunders

crap - ralphsaunders

I thought you didn't have to pay it off till u started earning above a certain amoutn - ralphsaunders

Gunther; until you want to update it; then you have to format. It's cool in theory, but it does not work. Every update breaks your OS. 10.5 is one download, 10.5.1 is one, and so on. you have to tailor the build for each version. doesn't work - Jackson Pollock

walt they're going to talk about the diggbar next week - Chris Heath

they give you a year... then if you earn above £15k you start paying it back. the more you earn the more you pay. I expect them to take out £90 from my salary this month - Jamie

how about when you tricked Stallman to sing the GNU song - Jackson Pollock

this is true Jackson I hadn't thought of that - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

If comcast decided to bring back tech tv with double the pay, would LEO quit TWIT and go back? - Ken Bernard

Gunther, I tried it, but it's not worth the time and effort. Buy used if you can't afford - Jackson Pollock

ken, probably not... - Chris Heath

Jamie wow.... £15k ... jeez :/ *hopes he gets spotted by design company halfway through uni* - ralphsaunders

I think its only about £30 a month if you earn 15k - Jamie

When does Laporte Courte start? - Ken Sheppardson

Ah thats not too bad then... i think out of uni (and this is a bit forward of me) i should be getting a bit more than that.. i hope :/ - ralphsaunders

15k is below poverty in London.. lol. most decent grad jobs will start at 22-24 - Jamie

also worth checking out; Dvorak from the late 80's with Gary Killdal talking about and taking apart an IBM workstation - Jackson Pollock

What a handsome man. You look like a male model Leo. Silver fox - Jackson Pollock

Patrick is like 25 there - Jackson Pollock

how old is this video? - Jamie

The Screensavers was such a great show - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

hah, Patrick haven't changed one atom! - Martin Eberhardt

hmm apparently " Average annual salaries for general graphic artists vary from $37,000 to $64,000." - ralphsaunders

Patrick looks very uncomfortable in that video - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

well yeah $37k is about £25k - Jamie

Link is dead - Ken Sheppardson

When did Leo go gray and Patrick start balding - Jackson Pollock

^^ - ralphsaunders

is that pat's car? - Jackson Pollock

Although my prefered fields + a few others "User interface designers can make about $86,000 on average each year. Package designers can earn an average annual salary of $82,000." ... although idk if I want to do that full time yet - ralphsaunders

I miss Kate Botello - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Kevin looks like he's 17 - Jackson Pollock

wow 5 years ago - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

what would patrick do without pockets - Jackson Pollock

wow - ralphsaunders

wow its sarah - ralphsaunders

I remember being so pissed that G4 took over ran TTV into the ground - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

What was the Screensavers ratings at the top? - Jackson Pollock

G: Yeah me too - Eric Florenzano

I used to watch The Screen Savers after school. - Eric Florenzano

Poor Martin. His shows always die - Jackson Pollock

Has anyone tried iCloud OS? It's an online operating system. - Mike Vierow

www.instantrimshot.com - Martin Eberhardt

Jackson: I just don't find him funny. He seems like a smart guy--he should try to do a serious show maybe. - Eric Florenzano

Oh man, a TWiT meetup for Star Trek would be awesome. - Eric Florenzano

He's of the Jim Carrey school of broadcasting. But people forget that Carrey is a standup, just being loud and screaming doesn't work - Jackson Pollock

times like these I wish I lied in Northern California - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

lied=lived - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Me too. - Andy Wood

star trek. wow is that a fad i don't get. - Jackson Pollock

Syler is a creepy Spock :D - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

I think the world has moved on since Star Trek. The premiere of the new one will be a bust. Just sayin' - Francine Hardaway

I liked the Next Generation but thats about it. never got the whole Star Wars thing either - Jamie

it will be huge in the us. here, prolly less successful than a sandler film - Jackson Pollock

iWoz: I can't do it captain! It's not jailbroken! - Martin Eberhardt

hahah - ralphsaunders

get the old school's. patrick norton, robert heron, steve gibson, alex lindsay, yoshi - Jackson Pollock

Those tickets are going to go sooo fast. - Eric Florenzano

sry whats going on? - ralphsaunders

leo, tone it down dude - Jackson Pollock

I love you Steve Gillmor - Wo

wo, i don't think steve gillmor is in here - Chris Heath

ok guys. off. good chat. twitter.com/elgoog - Jackson Pollock

plantronics DSP400 @ajkeen - Steve Gillmor

well i was wrong, hello @stevegillmor - Chris Heath

hello chrisheath, Wo love u too - Steve Gillmor

they should ask wil weadon and lebron burton to come.. i am sure they would get ALOT of money - daniel durham

Haha, you mean Wil Wheaton and Levar Burton? - Eric Florenzano

969 comments. Can we make it to 1000? - Mike Vierow

970 - Phil Essing

971 - Mike Vierow

If we make an effort Mike. - Willem (@wim66) ☠

973 - ralphsaunders

yes we can - Jayesh

When is the next NewsGang? - Wo

Yes! Let's! - Mike Vierow

What are we at now? - Mike Vierow

So, anyone here like... stuff? - Phil Essing

she is cool in my book.. she knows her stuff - daniel durham

I'll chipe in! :) - BASEnet

Let's all post as much as we can! - Mike Vierow

we can do it! - ralphsaunders

Yes! - Mike Vierow

We! - Mike Vierow

who's counting? - Willem (@wim66) ☠

Can! - Mike Vierow

Pft. 1000's no big deal anymore. - Ken Sheppardson

me! 989! - Mike Vierow

eleven more! Now Ten! - Mike Vierow

Maybe we break something :) - Willem (@wim66) ☠

Oh, wait... maybe it is. There are a bunch in the 800 range, but only two >1000 - Ken Sheppardson

Wish I were going to be in California on May 8th for the screening. I arrive for the summer on May 22. Expect me. - Francine Hardaway

Here - Mike Vierow

we - Mike Vierow

go - Mike Vierow

six more - Mike Vierow

!00! will fall off the earth - Willem (@wim66) ☠

http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... - Ken Sheppardson

1000! - Mike Vierow

This would be 1000 - Phil Maxwell

Has anyone here tried iCloud OS? - Mike Vierow

Phil 1000 was the link. One before, one after, and "998 more comments" in between - Ken Sheppardson

BYE! - Mike Vierow

yeah, i'm a little slow - Phil Maxwell

:-) - Ken Sheppardson

trying icloud now mike..looks pretty cool - Ken Bernard

Wow, look at all the comments! - Robert Scoble

gets a little slow whenTWIT is not live. - Ken Bernard

Ne1 have a link to Icloud - jackygreen

i just googled icloud...http://www.icloud.com/ - Ken Bernard

Good twit & bitgravity, but why so many freezes? I am on comcast, but don't think they are the problem. Diggnation videos never freeze. - John Bunting

Them's fightin' words, I think ;) - Chip Duford

It would be just like me to comment on this thread, just for the sake of commenting. :) - Randal Schwartz

Randal: hah! - Robert Scoble

Better late than never :-) - Ken Sheppardson

Plus the show is repeating right now, so it's appropriate - Ken Sheppardson

This experiment prompted some feedback to Paul RE how they could make embedding easier. - Ken Sheppardson

we're about to go mac mini system at home - would love to hear your tips - and ps love the dog's name - given that I'm an Aussie by choice - love ya leo - Linda Johannesson

testing if this thread still alive. - Cliff Gerrish

Seems to be - Ken Sheppardson

Kshep, Did Paul ever respond to your feedback about embedding? - Cliff Gerrish

Cliff: Not explicitly, and I haven't really noticed changes in the embed, but I haven't looked at it in a few days. - Ken Sheppardson

Blonde 2.0

Twitter Hiring A Concierge To Pamper Celebrities. - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...

March 30 from Digg - Comment - Like - Share

I wish I could remember which movie it was where the insects all buzz towards the UV light saying ‘it’s so beautiful’….(If someone remembers, please comment!) That’s my own personal take on these once hugely bankable Hollywood brands whose rather asinine online antics are with every tweet or poorly presented profile, becoming just another girl or guy next door. I predict a story arising... more... - Jan Simmonds

Loic Le Meur

my "How to launch a product with your community" video looks pretty good in YouTube high quality http://www.youtube.com/watch...

my "How to launch a product with your community" video looks pretty good in YouTube high quality http://is.gd/pl5K

March 27 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Hi Loic, 'Social Motion' No charge ;-) ...warmest wishes, Jan - Jan Simmonds

not bad at all :) - Loic Le Meur

Paul Buchheit

Have you installed the FriendFeed notifier yet? https://friendfeed.com/account...

March 18 - Comment - Like - Share

Otto, HealingBrush, Kyle Weller and 88 other people liked this

The notifier is my favorite new feature in a long time. Try it out and let me know what you think. (it works on OSX, Windows, and Linux, btw) - Paul Buchheit

58 more comments

Yes, it is pretty darn great, especially when you have it focus on a short list of people you really must interact with in almost realtime. With it turned on to too many people, it is an overlapping chore. Thanks for the cool apps! - Josh Haley

I try it ones, but no. Somehow I have come to dislike notifiers... Not my thing, I ratherly use sidebar on firefox :) - Kristian Salonen

I just did. Thanks for the reminder! - Robert Scoble

So Did I! - Helen Sventitsky

Wow, this is slick. Turning off gtalk now - Christian Burns

Yes, and <3... wish it was resizeable, though. excellent otherwise. - .LAG liked that

Nope. Adobe Air sucks huge resources. My Mac only has 4G of RAM and I can't run Air Apps. - Mistletoe Glen

I love it. It's the least intrusive Air App I've seen. I would like the ability to add my comments and likes and a list. That would really make it easier to keep up with conversations. :) - Andrew

LOL@4G RAM. My main laptop has 512MB - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Glen, Air can be a resource hog, but the notifier seems to use less memory that some other Air apps (on my computer, TweetDeck has a 283MB resident size, by the notifier is only 54MB). - Paul Buchheit

air... ick... installed, but not too hopeful - anna sauce

man, i'm wishing i hadn't downloaded. i already have growl notifications and mail notifications ... overwhelmed. - Lynne d Johnson

This tool is usefull, but not my need. I don't like to be disruptted. - pastas9 from BuddyFeed

You can have FF and Twitter on your desktop with one app: Thwirl. And, with Thwirl you can turn off ALL notifications. - Phil Essing from twhirl

Yes, but only works sometimes and when it works, it's updates popups hell. :) - Rui Pereira

@JoshHaley I agree, great for a small subset like coworkers or family, but not for your entire feed. - karl dotter

Ok, a couple thoughts. Once I installed the app I had updates constantly, often one over another so this means #1) I am missing way too much good content, #2) I have a very rich experience on Friendfeed since I seem to want to ignore most Twitter updates but want to click into most FF updates, and #3) if I left this thing on I would get zero work done. This application is too dangerous for me. Sorry guys, i had to turn it off. Good to see you are making the experience flexible for all though. Thanks. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Oh and +1 for using Morton's Duran Duran post for the app! - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

The problem I have with AIR is that it wakes up the CPU constantly. air apps + battery life = fail. - mjc

Phil, Thwirl is a full desktop client, which is great if that's what you're looking for. The notifier is just a very simple and lightweight notifier, which makes it very easy to passively keep up with what's happening on FriendFeed in real-time. - Paul Buchheit

I liked Eliza more :p - Rodfather

wish you could disabled comments...otherwise, not bad really not blown away i'm afraid - Zee.

I installed it. It works just as intended. Then I uninstalled it. Not my cup of tea. But it works great and the installation was flawless. - MVB (Grinch of FF)

Love that notifier. - Francine Hardaway

...it seems to work best--and less noisily--if you make a list of favorite FF content (people and/or rooms) and set the notifier to that... - .LAG liked that

I keep meaning to ask people what they're going on about a FriendFeed notifier. Installing this as soon as I get home. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I use twhirl for FF notifications, works well because I also use it for Twitter when my Tweetdeck api requests run out, and for seesmic - AJ Leon from twhirl

who's running old google deskbar? - John Fu

Yeah I'd love to use it but Air is a resource hog I just can't deal with. - EricaJoy

Another thought, I think the X button on the top right could be bigger. I seem to be accidentally opening liks quite a bit when I'm trying to close the pop up. - Andrew

No, not yet - thank you for the reminder - Susan Beebe

No, I haven't yet, quit nagging. ^_^ - Ron Bailey

I did, and promptly removed it after getting pop-ups every second. - Mathew™ one of a kind

My ADD ass wouldn't be able to handle the distraction. - Brad Williamson

I installed it but with Twhirl sending me twitter updates and that popping up it get's really confusing of what's going on. Plus Twhirl works fine for me. - Patrick from twhirl

would be like @_@ - Will Higgins™

I like it on my 24" display, but not on the 10" EEEPC. Long (vertically) messages aren't displayed very well at 1024x600 - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Just tried to install it but the link doesn't open anything. Strange (XP w/ Firefox) - Keith - @tsudo

Used compiz to make some adjustment to opacity, gamma values of the friendfeed notifier and now it is as sexy as jaunty native notifier - Zaki Manian

That guy's a rafa benitez clone. Amazing - Martin Liechti from fftogo

Somebody should do one with Silverlight 3 (beta) with out-of-browser -support. That I could try :) - Jemm

Martin, yeah I've noted this before, hehe. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Yes and I've made some observations and suggestions here: http://friendfeed.com/e... - Kol Tregaskes

Yes, but don't really keep it on. The sheer amount of activity is so high that notifier is a major distraction from whatever I am doing. I only turn it on when I'm browsing FF fulltime. - Parth Awasthi

I need another popup like a hole in my head. - TranceMist

Not really interesting. Friendfeed is getting kinda boring tbh. - Spencer

it's the dreaded ADOBE AIR. avoid it like the plague! :) - Zio Bonino

Notifier without actual interface=useless to me. - timedalkat from twhirl

Just installed it but notifiers without filtering options = popup hell - MiaD

I like it. It's like the real-time feed without having to take up a whole tab or sidebar. But I could never have it active at work - far too distracting. At home when I can keep an eye down in the corner while doing other things, it's great. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I have. And I like it so far - Martin Liechti from fftogo

its great! - Luigi Centenaro

In pop up heaven - how am I supposed to do any work? - Jan Simmonds

不错的小工具，赞 - 阿石

Tried it, liked it but prefer the IM / XMPP interface, that doesn't cost me CPU since I already have a client running, and also gives me more control over the level of distraction. - Robin Barooah

<3 using Twhirl - Patrick from twhirl

Still prefer to use Twhirl for my FriendFeed updates... It has a Me tab and a Friends tab and a Everyone tab and a tab to share stuff. - Patrick from twhirl

My first impression? I "like" much! - Karoli

I tried it and it's fun but I realized that all the real-time-ness I need I get from the real-time view in a separate window without the distraction. - Sam Grover

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A famous VC told me this week that Facebook is raising another round of funding at about the $6 billion valuation mark. I wish I could invest! Would you?

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Can't wait to see how big their round will be... - Daniel Brusilovsky

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not sure I'd invest as the upside would now be relatively limited - Shannon Clark

He told me he was considering putting in $25 million. Asked me if I would do that with my money, if I had it. I said "yes." Of course it wasn't my money, but Facebook is the success story. Far bigger than Twitter and thanks to Thursday's announcement I can see a way for them to make a ton of money. - Robert Scoble

I'm still not convinced that they will ever make decent revenue. That being said, if they were public I'd probably pick up a few shares. - Blake

Nope. Too late to make the bib gux - Francine Hardaway from twhirl

No i would invest in twitter. - Mark Overy

Blake: I wonder if we thought about that when the yellow pages first came out when the telephone was very new? - Robert Scoble

Is there information involved in that yes that isn't public? Like what the books look like (how much revenue are they generating anyway?) - What is the burn rate? etc - or just because you think they will "get there"? - Brian Roy

Brian: he didn't give me any other information than this. I'm just going over their growth rate, they are growing a service the size of Twitter every 10 days or so. - Robert Scoble

what is their annual profit value? how much of that money would you be likely to get back in real terms - "potential" doesn't count, I would want a real idea on how much money their business is generating before ever considering investing. (I don't have the cash so it'd be a moot point anyway) - alphaxion

I call Facebook "the velcro of social software services." They have tons of ways to hook you onto the service. Far more sticky than Twitter. - Robert Scoble

Invest in a company that lost $8 billion from its valuation 16 months ago? No thanks. - Mark Frost

alphaxion: in 1991 could you have answered that question for Google? No. That's why VC investing is risky. - Robert Scoble

Robert: 25 million seems small for Facebook, considering their last round was $100M, but of course that is only one VC. Did he tell you how many where in this round? - Daniel Brusilovsky

Mark: every company has lost billions in values in the past 16 months. That attitude toward investing seems pretty stupid. - Robert Scoble

Robert - totally agree with the stick factor. My question is how good is the plan to turn lots of users into actual dollars. If that plan is good (in a non-obvious way) I'd invest. - Brian Roy

Daniel: no, he just told me what he was considering. I'm sure if it's a $6 billion valuation there will be a large pool of folks in there. - Robert Scoble

Scoble: Good analogy. I'd like to be optimistic about it, but I just feel in my gut that the whole social networking business model still hasn't been perfected. I definitely agree that Facebook will eventually crush Twitter. - Blake

Brian: you have to read between the lines, but now they are letting brands be full members of the social graph. I see a TON of ways to make money with that. - Robert Scoble

Brian: here's my audio report from the Facebook announcements this week. http://friendfeed.com/e... -- in there I explain a bit about how I think Facebook will make money. - Robert Scoble

No, at least not in long term. - andrei_c

This doesn't seem like a good idea. $6 billion?! Robert, when you say Facebook's announcement last Thursday are you referring to the new page layout for companies? How much money can that bring in? - Nidhi Makhija

Robert - agree. But revenue is about execution. So it isn't just seeing how you might/can do it but being able to get to it effectively. That is Google's genius. I'm guessing they have the team/leadership to do it... which is why I'd invest (once I heard the plan). - Brian Roy

Nidhi: my bet? Over next 10 years? 100's of billions. Look at Google. Facebook is facing an opportunity that's in Google's neighborhood. Of course a lot of implementation is to come and they might not get there. But I see a way that they'll make billions. - Robert Scoble

If they monetized as well/heavily as Myspace, they would only have $1B revenue. Is he really going to get a 10x return with a $60B exit? Common or preferred? - Andy Beard

Brian: right. And who is on executive team at Facebook? They are executing pretty damn well. Just go see Sheryl Sandberg. She was an executive at Google and knows the secrets to delivering value. - Robert Scoble

depends on liquidation prefs, but assuming i got at least 1x preference i'd be an investor for anything south of $10B. at $6B i'd be pretty bullish; that seems like a reasonable number if you look out 3-5 years. - dave mcclure

A $6 billion valuation would make Facebook more valuable than: Salesforce.com, Sun Microsystems, or NetApp. In fact, you could buy Sun + eTrade + Sirius Radio + TiVo and still have more than a billion in pocket change left over. - Louis Gray

Not a chance. I'd run screaming from the building before I invested in Facebook. Sticky does not mean profitable. I remember that 1.0 adage "Get the eyeballs first and then monetize". Lots got the eyeballs - few figured out how to monetize. - AJ Kohn

Andy: the opportunity here is a lot bigger than $1 billion. MySpace is small change compared to what Facebook is going to do. - Robert Scoble

Andy: When I go to MySpace it tells me NOTHING about my friends' behavior when it comes to other businesses. The social graph is very powerful for businesses. Much better than what MySpace built, which is why key executives are now leaving MySpace. - Robert Scoble

I'd invest too yeah - Kaysha

I would invest. I believe Facebook is the OS for social media and something more. They are the White Pages of the Internet. And with an upside limited only to the imagination. - Jeff Pulver

Robert - You'd really feel safe investing in a company whose valuation isn't stable though? - Mark Frost

@Jeff - gawd I hope not .. if that is the case then the net is truly a wasteland - Steven Hodson

Negative. not at $6bn. We have absolutely no idea what it's worth, let's be honest. Nobody does. It's a straight gamble. I'd prefer spend the cash on buying into cloud-enabling companies like Cisco and server manufacturers, and the best placed players in the cloud ie Google and MS. Maybe... - john conroy

"going to do" ... Digg, Facebook, Twitter ... they all say they're "going" to figure it out. Show me a profit stream (even a small one) and I'd invest to help scale it but ... until then Cuba Gooding man ... Cuba Gooding. - AJ Kohn

Mark: that's why it's investing and not a "safe bet." VC is risky. So is buying stocks in companies. - Robert Scoble

Does anyone know for sure - does Facebook lose money every time they sign up a new user? In other words, is the reason they're raising money because their revenues are not growing to cover the costs of their growth? - Simon Brocklehurst

...further to my comment above: I guess what I'm really saying is that at $6bn you're talking about a blue-chip, and Facebook isn't a blue chip. It just isn't. - john conroy

Only tonight I glanced down my 'All Friends' list in Facebook and noticed how many have no status. They have not logged in for 7 days or more. In many cases a lot more. The fascination is on the wane. My money? No chance. - Darren

Robert: Oh I know that, I'm just speaking as someone with a very light wallet. ^_^ - Mark Frost

Darren: tell me how that is any different from this: http://twitter.com/TechCru... -- I bet your Facebook friends are more engaged with you than these Twitter followers of TechCrunch. Click on 100 followers of Techcrunch. How many have more than one Tweet? 2%? 10%? Not more. - Robert Scoble

john: Facebook is signing up 700,000 new users PER DAY. They are growing the size of Twitter every 12 days! Blue chip? Absolutely. Just like Google was. (We had the same arguments over Google six years ago). - Robert Scoble

Sticking the money into GOOG currently would be a better deal, or AMZN - GOOG 2008 revenues were close to $22B http://finance.yahoo.com/q... - based on similar can you see Facebook making $15B yearly revenue? - AMZN is currently worth only 6x gross profit - but then the VC neds to invest his money somewhere, and GOOG and AMZN are not an option - at the end of the day FB is relatively low risk and an easy way to do your job as noone will criticize you for it - Andy Beard

Andy: you probably said that sticking money into Alta Vista back in 1999 was better than Google. Wrong. - Robert Scoble

and yet - the fact they are raising money shows that we have not found a revenue model that can cope with the costs they incur - they could self-implode in 1-2 years unless they find an effective route to making break even - Nick Halstead

Read today in Times magazine an interview with Zuckenberg stating that monetization is not a priority yet while Facebook is not getting break even. By the way, did you notice that the fan pages are changing and look now as profile pages??? - Zack Brandit

Zack, yes. That's exactly what I was talking about here: http://friendfeed.com/e... - Robert Scoble

Chris: that's wrong. Everyone on my forums were talking about Google in 1999. Google didn't have a business model until 2004. - Robert Scoble

The problem Facebook has is that people seem to get bored of it. Most people I know are using Facebook less today than they were a year ago. I never saw this pattern with Google. - Simon Brocklehurst

Scobe: Are you saying that Twitter's model isn't working, so Facebook's will? Twitter v Facebook comparisons are fruitless. - Darren

Darren: no, I know that Facebook has 175 million who has signed in in the past 30 days. How many does Twitter have? - Robert Scoble

Chris: OK, I'll grant you the 2003 Google. Same points still hold. You're not feeling it? I look at how addicted my wife is to Facebook (and all her friends). This is the Google of this time. - Robert Scoble

VC is certainly risky.. but a good VC wouldn't fritter their money away on something that wouldn't give even a little bit of ROI. Otherwise they simply wouldn't be a VC for very long. It's all well and good saying "I can see a lot of ways to make money", but visions and actual money making are 2 different things. So again, please answer the question and say how much they're currently making. - alphaxion

"Everyone on my forums", is exactly what White said, "hardly anyone" and he is correct. - coldbrew

I am not saying it is a bad investment, but just imagine Facebook had already IPOed last year, and had managed to figure out their revenue to bring it up to Myspace level, which would then make a $6B valuation on $1B revenue in line with GOOG and AMZN current market valuations. - that isn't necessarily a VC deal - unless they were looking to use the money for a cash purchase of Twitter at a much lower valuation than $500M - Andy Beard

coldbrew: this whole conversation sounds exactly like the ones we had about Google in 1999-2004. - Robert Scoble

I seem to remember a company called Netscape was all the rage once. - Jan Simmonds

@Robert: No, Facebook is not the Google of it's time. Why? Because Google had a very clear business plan. Sell relevant ads on search results. Direct marketers (me) got it and ran with it. It took time to build but it was a clear business plan. Facebook doesn't have that. Unless of course they turn Facebook into a search portal - if they did that then the size and stickiness of the site benefits them. Outside of that, SocNet advertising doesn't seem like a viable business plan. - AJ Kohn

I have concerns about Google if I'm honest. They too fritter their money away on investments that fizzle out to nothing (look at how many companies they've bought for massive amounts of money), they're limited by the size of the advertising market (think as to why they've been slashing their returns on adwords). Now, their positioning as a content delivery caching network is a far more promising one. - alphaxion

Robert - "no, I know that Facebook has 175 million who has signed in in the past 30 days. How many does Twitter have? "- you're still doing it! Comparing Facebook favourably to Twitter does not mean Facebook have a good long-term model. I'm not saying they don't, but if a Twitter comparison is the best these dudes can come up with then "I'm out" as they say on Dragons Den. Using your sort of comparison, who is to say that Facebook is now Google 2003, whilst Twitter is Google 2000. Which one has more upside? - Darren

AJ: you are totally wrong. Google didn't have a clear business model until 2004. I know the guy at Exodus who almost shut down Google because Google couldn't pay its bills. - Robert Scoble

I think most of you people hang out mostly with technophiles; I do not. - coldbrew

Chris: I'll never been that rich. I'll buy you a mojito at the Ritz, though! - Robert Scoble

@Robert: Just because they couldn't pay their bills doesn't mean they didn't have a model or plan. It took time to build the momentum ... the world of search had to 'tip' - and when it did Google was well positioned *because* of their plan. I just don't see that with Facebook. What are they positioning for? - AJ Kohn

I can say most of my 30-something friends only found FB w/in the last 6 months. - coldbrew

Facebook fatigue has certainly been kicking in for myself over the last few months whereas as my Twittering has been increasingly steadily; it is just more "useful". That said, they certainly do appear to be functionally converging, so who knows where we'll end up... - Kevin Bluer

Who cares about Facebook or 6 billion. What are your plans after Fast Company? Is it true they fired you? - Bruce Curley

Kevin: I can see an argument about why you're right, too. On Gillmor Gang right now is Paul Buchheit of friendfeed and he points out that Twitter's API is far easier to develop on. That ease is turning into all sorts of interesting apps which make Twitter more useful. Well, we'll see. That's why VC is risky. - Robert Scoble

If I were a VC I would definetly ask for a clear plan of privacy policies before investing. This might be an issue. I would also ask for some guidelines on future updates since FB seems to change its homepage very frequently, which might result in a potential failure. - denizoktar

Bruce: I was not fired. I resigned my video show to do something else. I still am working part time for Fast Company. I have plans, but will not disclose them in public until SXSW on Monday. - Robert Scoble

@Robert: BTW - this famous VC you mention ... are *they* investing or not? - AJ Kohn

AJ: they didn't say, they said they were considering it, but sounded like they were going to the way they were talking. - Robert Scoble

At this point, I would not invest in anything except gold. Do I sound like a nut? Just check out this video. Actually look at a bunch of his video over the years. Peter Schiff called it all. http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Dan Cornish

I'll point out again that while VC is an inherently risky business, it's still not a case of blindfold and a dartboard. A real VC would do at least a bit of research and see if they're likely to make a return. If not then they're not a real VC and would either be someone who can afford to lose the money as it's merely a diversion (kinda like how some people will play the lottery) or a fool. - alphaxion

Dan: Gold and Guns sounds like a good investment strategy over next year. Me? I'd rather be in Facebook, but then I have a front-row seat. - Robert Scoble

Chris: that's funny! But no. :-) - Robert Scoble

@Robert: Interesting. Always appreciate the information and opinion. I disagree and don't see it myself but ... I've been wrong before. Been right before too though ;) - AJ Kohn

You all need to read this: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... Indie Facebook Developers are making over $700,000 per month. Like I said, there were billions and billions here. - Robert Scoble

Chris: I do not have any compensation or investments coming from or going to Facebook. I was invited to a press conference on Thursday and I have a front row seat because I know many of the players involved and I read a lot of RSS feeds. :-) - Robert Scoble

YES, I would invest!!!!! - Susan Beebe

how many of the indie developers are making those figures compared to the rest? also, advertising revenues, again, are the core of it. How about revenues that don't involve advertising, as in real and repeat direct spending of the users not the whim of other companies? And of this, how much money are facebook themselves making, since this money fountain could all vanish should facebook itself fold. - alphaxion

I bet the sum of the people advertising using Adwrods are making more than Google in total as well - the people using Paypal owned by Ebay are most certainly making bank, but for some reason Ebay isn't even worth 2x their revenue. Facebook developers making $700,000 is nice, great return, invest in the app developers if there is longevity. - Andy Beard

@chris that's my fault.. I called it adwords in a previous comment - that's what 5 beers does to my word association skills! >.< - alphaxion

coldbrew: sorry, I just fixed it. NO need to keep an error in my comments here. - Robert Scoble

Was just watching you on TWiT Live, streaming to my 52" TV via my PS3. Look fwd to seeing more of your stuff on TWiT Live in the future Scoble. - Jason Cartwright

am I the only one who seems to feel a certain air of "ponzi scheme" when your questions are met with answers of "look at these people, they're making money from it" without actually answering your question? And don't think I'm being snarky for snarks sake. I'm really trying to gain an idea of why people are yelling "buy this!" without really backing their claim up beyond "trust us". - alphaxion

I'd rather buy Citi stocks. - Mona Nomura from fftogo

alphaxion: when you are getting 700,000 new people a day you'll figure out a business model, especially since you know so much about each of those people. People who understand media understand the very real value that Facebook is aggregating. - Robert Scoble

again with the vague "well, we'll figure something out... just keep pumping us with money" answer. It doesn't matter how many new people you are getting onto your service if there's no tangiable sense of where the money to pay for it all is going to come from. It is very similar to youtube. They were burning through cash, plenty of people were saying "it'll make loads of money somehow" and yet google are *still* looking for ways of making it profitable. It's the kind of economics that leads to bubbles. - alphaxion

there simply aren't enough people that sit down and ask "so, how much money are you making and how much do you project this to grow realistically". Which is the basic tenet on which all companies have been founded upon. - alphaxion

@scoble... yes, people who understand media understand the real value that Facebook is aggregating, but not if they understand it in the OLD way. if this just turns out to be another advertising play, because they've 2 billion+ eyes, another way to sell people products they don't need, then, hell, I may as well pull the plug and turn Amish... not really, but all of the stuff I've been hearing so far doesn't make be feel confident that FB will end up being anything we haven't already seen... time will tell. - .LAG liked that

Robert this question sparked such interesting comment you should ask more like this. FB to me is a fad unless they buy Twitter which with Twitter Search could be a new Google. Agree with Chris White MS-Facebook is a likely outcome. Google must acquire Twitter before Vodafone wise up. Keep leading the debate Rob. - Thomas Power

What are they spending all that money on? Or is just banking money to survive the future? - Brian Sullivan

@chris actually, I'd say google was all about weaving themselves into the sites they lead you to and the apps you use to access this info. Having dealt with administrating systems, it's scary just how many apps and system builders integrate their toolbar and desktop apps and how many sites use their services that then collect data on the visitors/users. A question I don't see asked and answered often enough is "why?" - alphaxion

@ChrisWhite I certainly meant Adwords not Adsense - people advertise to make money (well unless they are Auto manufacturers) - I look on the Facebook App platform in many ways as an advertising platform, though the transaction that takes place between Facebook and the App developers isn't currently a financial one. Maybe things would be different if Facebook had their "FacePal" payment... more... - Andy Beard

Chris: that's an interesting question. CEOs should never say never when it comes to future business decisions. - Robert Scoble

Social networking seems like a commodity to me. Glorified address book + activity stream. Long term, why is it likely that one company will continue to command a proprietary premium on this? Do we not forget the staggering claims for these companies made doing the last bubble? Lots of similar claims by many companies in the 90s about # of user signups, stickiness, etc. If social networking platforms are so valuable, they're gonna get commodified. Wordpress isn't the only way to host RSS now is it? - Ray Cromwell

I can feel a Metcalf's law retort coming. :) It's like Godwin, but for business model debates. - Ray Cromwell

Chris: really? I don't agree with you. If you can survive through a depression you'll come out of it with rocket burners on. Google gained steam through the dotcom bust. Facebook is gaining steam through this downturn. - Robert Scoble

Chris: agreed. Facebook is not going to have an IPO this year. I can assure you of that. The investors will keep them going for two more years at minimum. - Robert Scoble

Can I buy Twitter instead? - Patrick from twhirl

@Robert: You're thinking "aggregated rich user data" is going to be the Facebook gold mine? Advertisers and brands I chat with think it's of marginal value. Big brands already have deep databases with multiple reporting lines. Prizm data gets you 75% of the way there most of the time. Facebook might be another reporting line but it's not going to be a game changer. Search re-targeting has more value IMO. - AJ Kohn

@AJ .. I would have to agree with you. Just think of all the data that things like those Air Miles cards collect, or credit card companies or even national brand shopping cards ... one would think that the data collected that way would be a lot more valuable than anything that FB could produce. Makes one almost think that this whole Social Media as a marketer and advertising goldmine might not turn out to be Fool's Gold - Steven Hodson

Nope, two reasons. First, I won't invest unless I agree with the core mission of the company. Second, FB may do well in its early times after going public, but it's not at all clear to me that it will be a great company in the 5-10 year range. - LogEx

@Steven: Exactly! Air Miles. Grocery Cards. Credit Cards. Warranty Information. Rebate Information. (You'd be amazed how many people register their stuff!) It's a bit scary what can be obtained from credit bureaus as well. Facebook is the corner, the stoop - it's where people stop to talk and shoot the breeze. Not much gets sold there. I need to connect with them when they're walking past the mall. - AJ Kohn

Think about the data a company like Mint.com or Quicken Online collects and compare it to the data that FB has on spending patterns and interests. They know enough (but currently don't use this info) to definitively tell you that you're spending $50 a month on BlockBuster, and could reduce it to $20 a month if you change to Netflix, saving you $30. - Ray Cromwell

How many more rounds of funding would you expect? It seems like you might get washed out by later rounds. - Todd Hoff

Everything you hear lately makes it sound like he's had to change that point of view about $15b if he wants capital. - Hutch Carpenter

Great discussion. Some points: the "No one can monetize this space" argument is false. As an advertiser (and a top 3 one at that), We are. And, quite well. #2--However, I wouldn't discount MySpace just yet. FaceBook is a wonderful white pages, it's possible MySpace will be a wonderful Yellow pages. We'll see. $6B is steep, but one difference this data has from the others mentioned (credit cards, gas cards, etc) is it's voluntarily provided--which is a much different data stream. - Alan Edgett

I would, in an instant. Many Facebook apps alone have 10 times the number of users Twitter has. - Jesse Stay

If they gave me a way to keep certain people unaware of my presence, I'd go back - Aaman (Clone of FF)

If I had the choice, I would rather invest in LinkedIn. Facebook has a phenomenal growth there are still a lot of open questions: You talk about businesses creating pages in facebook. This is probably a good idea in the sort term but in the long term as a company you probably want more control and ownership over your community and like AOL had to open up the walled garden, Facebook will have to do it to or someone else with do it for them. In that more open world, monetizing the graph will become even harde - Edwin Khodabakchian

wow...another around... - Kenyth

Interesting. Most seasoned entrepreneurs will tell you funding isn't an ideal expansion, that multiple rounds is not a good sign. Means it isn't making money. Social networks are nothing more than message boards with different user features - and have always been very hard to monetize. New competition is coming fast into the market from places none of y'all are looking at, and we're... more... - Patricia

Patricia: Google had multiple rounds. So did many other big Silicon Valley companies. - Robert Scoble

Chris: I know all about dilution. The reason Zuckerberg is so smart is he's taken a few rounds without getting diluted much at all. Got $300 million from Microsoft and only gave up, what, 1% or so of Facebook? That's brilliant. - Robert Scoble

Robert, yes, i know. it can be an asset. it just depends on if they can find a way to make money. google found it. let's hope facebook does too. i root for all businesses to succeed! - Patricia

still all I am seeing is the taking of money with no idea on how it'll generate money back, which is the whole point of investment. It seems to be the whole mantra of web apps "get users, then figure out how to make money" instead of the way every other industry functions. Do you really think this is a lasting way of doing business or will the web have to mature and show they can make money with their creations before investors will part with large sums of money? - alphaxion

when thinking about it, it is a particularly Valley way of doing business - I don't see this kind of investment internationally, they demand to see what will happen with their money and how it is likely to generate its own revenue instead of going cap in hand back to the investors. - alphaxion

and I do agree that this way of investing does lead to some really innovative things that ordinarily wouldn't stand a chance of making it. But, it is a big concern that the sites can't stand on their own without VC's propping them up by pouring round after round into them with nothing more than "it's gonna be huge!" as the reason. It'll only ever be huge if a cogent business plan exists, otherwise the only huge thing will be the bill VC's nurse at the end of it. - alphaxion

Facebook is finished - paul mooney

FB has the most chance of success because that's where non geeks go. It's the one service they want to use. - Richard A.

I don't get what non geeks has to do with FB's sucess ? - Asankhaya Sharma

Asankhaya: one word: "mainstream" - Claudio Cicali ♋

Interesting to note Apple could pony up $6 billion for Facebook and still have some $18 billion left over. - Mike Reynolds

@Mike .. maybe so but if there is one thing you can say about Steve Jobs is that he is a smart businessman who doesn't like to lose money - Steven Hodson

well i would not invest, fb has been for sometime now in a few years what ever profit could be made should have been made by now, the next big idea will kill fb forever, with the investment totally sunked in - briandsouza

UPDATE on this: Investors in Facebook are telling friends of mine that Facebook is not raising another round. It's possible that this is an opportunity that's being offered by someone who has stock already and is looking to get out. I'll try to find out more and report back. - Robert Scoble

I definitely would! - Pico Seno

Robert - whoa, "someone ... looking to get out." wow. yes, more info please. What is their rationale? - Susan Beebe

I wouldn't. I would rather invest in something simpler like twitter or friendfeed. - Siddharth Mitra

Interesting that the round is at $6 Billion. I heard that Facebook are supposedly only accepting external investors providing they are investing at the valuation of Microsofts investment. - Nicholas James

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we hate it because it's different - Stephen Mack

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hmmmm - Charlie Anzman

I think I'm more or less alone in liking the new Google favicon. Yet I hate the new Pepsi logo (but of course, I hate Pepsi, being an Atlantan). There's something about the amorphous asymmetry that annoys me (yes, I know the Google logo is asymmetric as well, but it seems ok somehow). - Joel Webber

I could learn to like the Google favicon, though the 'vibration' caused by putting bright green and red together, and the altogether Christmasy feel of the right side are hard to ignore. - Kevin Fox

I also like the new favicon (certainly far more than the lowercase blue-g version, at least). I think the middle image above actually looks more like a piece of the old Pepsi logo than the new one. - Laurence Gonsalves

ugliest thing g has done so far - Min Liu

Great link between the images. Red and green, never thought of it but I made some observation, there's two sections of blue, which is a bit weird. And a lot of green compared to the yellow and red, probably to fit with those curves. (the bottom left corner of the upper part of the g) - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,

I didn't like the original 'new favicon', but the current new one is so bad I finally started using the 'classic Google favicon' userscript. - Andrew C

Someone needs to make a parody of http://bunnitude.com/misc... explaining the Google favicon process. - Laurence Gonsalves

It would start by taking the MSN butterfly logo and swapping the position of the green and yellow bits... - Andrew C

im more annoyed by the change (for no good reason?) than the design. i was so used to the old favicon that for a long time after they changed to the blue one, it took me a few seconds longer every time i was going back to the google results tab in the browser, because i kept looking for the tab with the old favicon every time. - Lasse Johnsen

I'm of the opinion that good design is polarizing. It provokes conversation and interest. Take Nintendo's "Wii" for example. Almost everyone hated the name when they announced it, but now I can't imagine it being called anything else (and it certainly hasn't hurt sales). - Jonathan Terleski

I don't think polarizing implies good design nor vice-versa. - Andrew C

Pepsoogle? - Tyson Key

Subliminal or what - http://tinyurl.com/7lekr9 - Jan Simmonds

Pepsi FTW. - Randy Holloway

I actually kinda like the new Google favicon. At least more than the blue lowercase one. And maybe rather than 'like' I should say 'am used to,' since that was the extent of my feelings towards the initial Google favicon, too. I didn't particularly like it. I was just used to it, cuz it was the capital G. That's it. - Chieze Okoye

Also, I don't think that design is good if and only if it's polarizing. I don't even know that I think that there is a causal relationship in either direction. I could get behind the idea that there is a correlation, but I've seen plenty of designs that are universally thought of as great (no polarization needed). - Chieze Okoye

Yes, the favicon is awesome. - j1m

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Father and son reach the South Pole - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news...

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FT.com / UK / Business - Social networks threaten advertising growth - http://www.ft.com/cms...

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The landscape is changing...The advertising industry equivalent of an ice age is upon us and some people are still walking around with a T-shirt on! As my Nan used to say, they'll catch their death! - Jan Simmonds

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famebook™: Definition of 'FRIEND' - Jan's Social Networking Dictionary - Entry One! - http://famebook.typepad.com/fameboo...

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A bit of fun...for my FRIENDS! - Jan Simmonds

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Royal yacht goes up for sale - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news...

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