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Thomas Hawk favorited photos on Flickr

August 7 at 8:00 pm - Link

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AWESOME - Mona N.

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I *love* the green theme. - possible248

Lovely green! - BeeLing

Gorgeous set. - Donna Mugavero

It's easy being green? - Brian Sullivan

I love the photo with the water drop on it. - Sudar

لااااااااااااااااااااااااایک برای هر گونه سبزی:) - shandiz

I feel like I am hard wired to love that little sliver of spectrum - Not Not Geoff Schultz

My favorite color. You really do spectacular work Thomas. - Jeff Jones

+1 for green - Mike Doeff

wow, what a green wave! - silpol

Interesting:Leaf veins looks like spider web - Igor Poltavskiy

everything is so green! - nundesign

keyword is green :) - Baard Overgaard Hansen

Green! - k00pa

They should be here: http://flickr.com/groups/absol... - Håkan Dahlström

green-friday - marcantonio severgnini

this is fantastic - veronicaromm

Jason Calacanis published a photo on Flickr

Two years of the Dow Jones Industrial Average

July 29 at 1:19 pm - Link

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That's one heck of a drop step decline! - Richard Kannegieser

To be fair, you've got to combine the data with US dollar exchange rate - Cains

Phil Jeudy posted a message on Twitter

“Vous aimez le foot? Vous supportez votre équipe nationale? mettez votre PC aux couleurs de l'Euro `2008 http://euro.sobees.com avec #Sobees”

June 9 at 6:11 am - Link

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Phil Jeudy published photos on Flickr

June 7 at 6:53 pm - Link

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Sarah Perez posted an entry on sarahintampa

bTT Twitter/FriendFeed Combo App Gets an Update

May 21 at 2:08 pm - Link

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Allen Stern posted an entry on CenterNetworks

Let's Get Serious About FriendFeed; the 1995 Message Board, the Smart Consolidator and the Stolen Conversation

May 22 at 8:53 pm - Link

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I keep hearing people say "if you're arguing against comments being on FriendFeed, you Just Don't Get It", but nobody's actually bothered to say /why/ comments on FF are a good thing. It's just /assumed/ to be good. - Chris Anthony

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Here's my answer: http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008... - Hutch Carpenter

why do the comments on FF have to be justified? Is the people who don't like them the ones who need to defend their position. - Alejandro S.

I like friendfeed comments just fine and think they are vastly better than pulling in all the disaggregated comments as Allen suggests. But I hope Allen will raise some cash, hire some software developers and build the thing that he thinks is 1000x better. - Robert Seidman

What stolen conversation? I'm of the opinion that very few blogs actually had conversation in comments section on a consistent basis in the first place. - Shey

Shey, if your opinion is backed up by a wealth of data, doesn't that make it fact? ;-) - Robert Seidman

Shey, do the blogs that didn't have significant comment conversation in comments have significant comment activity on FriendFeed? - Chris Anthony

Pretty much disagree with this post, but it's worth a read. Digg and reddit have comments, are they wrong too? - Jason Kaneshiro

Alejandro, if anyone needs to do any justification, it's the entity making the change, and that's FriendFeed at the moment. - Chris Anthony

Jason, yes, under this model of thinking they are. Why focus on FriendFeed in the post and the conversation? Because FriendFeed, to use Malcolm Gladwell's term, is in the process of tipping. - Chris Anthony

Chris. Huh? FriendFeed is a service where people can talk about stuff. If people don't want to talk about stuff here, they don't have to. If people want to talk about YOUR stuff here and you don't like it because you can't control it that's not any different than people talking about your stuff at a conference where a bunch of people are chatting about it in a hallway. - Robert Seidman

Robert, I have no idea which of my comments you're responding to. (That in itself is a limitation of FriendFeed - although really, it's a limitation of any non-threaded comment system.) Where did I talk about controlling the conversation? You're putting words in my mouth. - Chris Anthony

Robert, I prefer to /see/ the conversation. I don't care about /controlling/ it. If we're supposed to treat FriendFeed like it's an extended conference conversation, that's one thing, and we can all relax a bit. But that's not how people are treating it - and it's not how FriendFeed is behaving. - Chris Anthony

The more I think about it, the more I think FF could change that perception - of item comments as decentralized blog comments rather than hallway chats - by simply changing the term "comment" to "conversation" (or "converse", in the verb form under a given entry), or something similar. As it is, by this point we associate "comment" with "blog comment", which is why people are getting so riled up about it. - Chris Anthony

Chris, if it's just a preference then just like my preference that Angelina Jolie would think I'm cuter than Brad Pitt, you're probably going to have to get over it. How is FriendFeed behaving? In a way that allows people to have conversations about something you wrote that you might not wind up seeing? <gasp> - Robert Seidman

Robert, in the future, please read my comments before you reply to them. - Chris Anthony

Chris, I read your comments. I disagree with you. In the future, please feel free to ignore differing opinions. That's something that actually is in your control. - Robert Seidman

I didn't know someone owns the conversation. I'm gonna start asking for permission every time I discuss something with a friend. - Alejandro S.

look at all these comments which belong on my blog! Robert, you brought up the one thing that I knew someone would say - which is that people can chat offline about my post and I can't control it. Truth is that FF can build the best tool that does exactly what I've suggested, it doesn't change anything about the interaction here at all. What it does is let the x people who aren't on here understand the entire conversation. There's no reason they can't do it - unless of course their business model is in the conversation. - Allen Stern

Allen, we'll have to agree to disagree. "Look at all these comments that belong on my blog!" I don't see them as "belonging" to your blog. I'd lean more towards "Wow, look at all these people talking about my blog, cool!" - Robert Seidman

Robert it is cool, it just belongs across the street so that everyone can play together - i want you to see and be part of the entire conversation, not a fragmented part. And I want everyone to be part of the entire conversation - it's possible. - Allen Stern

Jeremiah Owyang posted an entry on Web Strategy by Jeremiah

Who Reads the Web Strategy Blog?

May 21 at 4:38 am - Link

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is reading the blog equal to reading the RSS ?? I take the RSS and then comment here .. I hardly comment on blogs anymore :(- - Peter Dawson

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Oh dear, Peter, Now I must stay here - Jeremiah Owyang

I agree with Peter in that I now read 99% of the blog posts I follow in GReader and comment either via Share with note in GReader (which posts to FriendFeed) or via twhirl to the post or to another shared comment. - Jon Erickson via twhirl

i am, thanks. - علي شير حسنف

I read this and other blogs. Primarily when I see them in FriendFeed. I've stopped using an RSS reader and rarely go directly to blogs on their own anymore. Still I'm reading more blogs now than ever, including yours. Best way to get your blog read by me is have it on FriendFeed. - Thomas Hawk

I do, along with people that i have linked up with through FriendFeed or twitter. - Caleb Easterwood

I would think someone would be able to come up with a way to import any friend feed discussions into their blog comments section maybe. - jason burton

Louis Gray shared an item on Google Reader

Yes, FriendFeed Will Be Mainstream (by 2018) and Here’s Why

May 20 at 1:19 am - Link

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10 years? In Internet time that's like 100... Technology changes accelerate exponentially. In 10 years the internet itself and the way we access/interact with it won't be anything like it is today. Will FriendFeed be around then? I'm guessing probably not... it will have morphed or been replaced by something more useful several times by then. I don't think we have to worry about it too much, just hang on for the wild ride. - Lindsay Donaghe

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2018??! LOL thats hilarious, thats like being back in 1997 and saying fellas, Friendster will rule this galaxy in 2008! (course I dont even know when friendster actually hit the web) - Dan Rockwell via twhirl

Does it really matter? I mean, no one is going to take away FriendFeed if it doesn't "go mainstream" by X date. FF is just 5 (or 6?) people who are servign 100k others. Not a bad ratio - and we FF highly value the service. I'm sure things will keep getting better and better. - Mike Reynolds

Funny, why define "mainstream" as 33%? I definte it as > 50% - the majority of US households. The chart also only shows technology that went mainstream, unfortunately implying a lot of them do. Most new technologies never gain critical mass and others have a brief period of success and then failure, and sometimes the better technology never does (we're still using QWERTY keyboards and VHS was inferior to Beta). I'd say this is a complete toss up. - Jason Kaneshiro

10 years is certainly pushing it BIG TIME. If it isn't in 2-3 years, it won't happen at all. - Andrew Dobrow

Many of you have very unrealistic expectations. NOTHING reaches > 50% of the population in 2-3 years. Google may have 68% of searches, but that is certainly from less than 50% of the population (more active searchers are more likely to use Google), and that has taken 10 years and is one of the biggest successes ever. - Paul Buchheit

+1 Like for Paul's comment. Good businesses take time to grow. Online and social makes it happen faster, but it takes time nonetheless. "Internet time" means changes can come along quickly. But it doesn't describe mainstream adoption. - Hutch Carpenter

Let's put things in perspective. Flickr is mainstream right? They have 1.7% of internet traffic (Alexa), a very far cry from the Facebook numbers. But, people would also consider Flickr to be a success. - Rob Diana

@Paul @Hutch @Rob - Do you need 50% of the population to have a successful business? No. But all the technologies on the chart referenced in the post are game changers, revolutionary uses of technology. To compare a new service like FriendFeed to "the internet" or "the automobile" pretty much discredits how ubiquitous and life alterting those technologies are. When the majority of the population considers a technology a necessity, it's a whole 'nother ball game; a paradigm shift that changes the world. - Jason Kaneshiro

@Jason - That is why I brought up Flickr. They changed the idea of sharing pictures. There were several lifestreaming services launched at the same time, but there are only a few with traffic. The bigger question is whether lifestreaming catches on with the masses. - Rob Diana

@Rob yeah, I agree, Flickr is a successful business and a great idea. I'm not suggesting that FF won't be hugely successful as a business, become profitable and / or be acquired. I think it will achieve all those things. But to compare it to "the washing machine" "the telephone" and "the automobile"? I think that's *really* getting ahead of ourselves. :) - Jason Kaneshiro

@Jason - Oh, ok. I was never comparing them so I did not get what you were saying. Forgot they were in the chart in the article. - Rob Diana

@Jason - a couple things. 50% adoption is the Wikipedia definition of mainstream. I think 50% is too high. If 1 out of 3 people use something, I'd say that's pretty mainstream. I also don't compare FriendFeed to the automobile or the Internet directly in terms of utility. Only for comparison in terms of adoption cycles. I'd love a chart that shows MyYahoo, Google search, AOL, etc. Haven't seen that. - Hutch Carpenter

@Rob, I don't think Flickr is designed for lifestreaming, even though a lot of early-adopter types use it that way. It's designed for photography enthusiasts to show off, and for web surfers to search for interesting photos taken by strangers. They're doing extremely well in that niche. Sharing your life using photos calls for something different. I've made OurDoings for that purpose and think it works very well. The problem I'm finding is that the early adopter phase is not optional. - Bruce Lewis

Corvida posted an entry on SheGeeks

FriendFeed And Your Personal Brand

May 19 at 7:00 am - Link

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I like this perspective a lot. I agree that there does not seem to be the typical internet caste systems on Friend Feed. - Mathew A. Koeneker

Self-described newbie has thought about personal branding via FriendFeed - mcwflint

Thanks for the positive comments! - Phil Glockner

@Mathew A. Koeneker, I agree. - edythe

Loic Le Meur published a photo on Flickr

English breakfast

May 19 at 12:34 am - Link

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English breakfasts are usually very good, that just looks wrong! - Arthur Guy

seems like full of fats and calories ? Any idea how many calories ? - Raza via Alert Thingy

Robert Scoble posted a message on Twitter

“It's official http://www.summize.com now kicks Tweetscan's ass. So much better it isn't funny.”

May 16 at 12:28 am - Link

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Yeah, I liked Summize so much, I added support for its search API to my Twitter client. I just had to. - Morton Fox

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Even on basic search there's no comparison. On Thursday evening I performed an ego search on both Summize and TweetScan, and Tweetscan missed most of the relevant tweets from the last couple of days. Granted that Twitter had its own problems during that period, but the fact remains that Summize was still able to deliver the results. - Ontario Emperor

The way that summize keeps searching even after the page loads it great - makes it so easy to keep track of whatyou're looking for - Colin Walker

summize is great and they have a good api as well. - Rodney Rumford

summize is awesome indeed, i use it to catch my replies when I'm using Twitter web - Shey

Summize had our Minnebar conversation in their top five last Sat, so they're not so dumb... :-) - Graeme Thickins

Totally agreed. Tried to use Tweetscan the other day (it was the only Twitter search service I could remember at the time) and FAIL. Thankfully I stumbled on summize yesterday, and it's perfect! - Jandy Stone via Alert Thingy

Summize - great find - already found some good, new Twitterers to follow. Very accurate and useful. - David Sim

Thank for the find/tip. I like it...a lot! - Mathew A. Koeneker

Scott Kveton posted a message on Twitter

“@ahockley do you shoot things in RAW? or does it depend on the mood? how do you store it all? plz answer in 140 chars ... :-)”

May 15 at 8:47 pm - Link

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Any serious photographer ALWAYS shoots in RAW. When I meet people who say they don't know what RAW is or who do, and decide to do only JPEG I just shake my head and feel sorry for them. It's like throwing away your original slides or negatives. Makes me sad. - Robert Scoble

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Ok. I am one of those JPEG photographers. I just got a new DLSR and don't know anything about RAW. Any good links on taking RAW photos and how to process them? Also, what do you use to manage your files? - Michael Carter

Michael: get Adobe Lightroom http://www.adobe.com/products/... -- if you save in RAW you'll be able to much more widely manipulate your images, saving color temperature and exposure problems, among other things. Plus you'll get sharper images and know that you've actually saved all the data coming off of your DSLR's sensor. It takes more memory space, though. Need more hard drives and bigger memory cards, etc. - Robert Scoble

Thanks Robert! - Michael Carter

Michael: Aperture is a great option if you are on a Mac. It's absolutely brilliant for organization. Google This Week In Photography -- it's a great podcast about all things photography related. - Jeremy Brooks

Now storage is cheap, there's not much reason not to use RAW. - Richard Bradshaw

Generalizations like this don't make for a good argument, Robert. Most serious photographers do indeed shoot raw and I agree for most it is the way to go. But there are indeed good reasons for shooting JPEG. It all depends on the circumstances. News photographers who have to get their stuff out as quickly as possible are one example. Plus, DSLRs have become much better at in-camera JPEG processing. The newest Nikons produce exceptionally good JPEGs in most situations. - Ole Begemann

Ole: there's no reason anymore. Why? Pro DSLRs like my Canon 5D and the Nikon D3 I borrowed for a month shoot in BOTH RAW and JPEG so you get the benefits of each. News photographers should keep a historical record in as high a quality as they can. Also, RAW can actually be much easier to process and get a good professional image from. - Robert Scoble

What about sports photography where speed is necessary. You are wrong scoble for dissing on JPEG like that. Raw is great, but JPEG has its own needs and uses - Varun "Maverick" Pitale

I tested out the Nikon D3 and have the Canon 5D. I don't see any real-world speed difference between shooting both RAW and JPEG and JPEG only. Most sports photogs I know shoot RAW because they want the processing capabilities that come with RAW. Most sports photogs I know use many cameras anyway and use the most expensive equipment. - Robert Scoble

But, that's missing the point anyway. I don't mind a professional making a conscious choice. But most people don't really know what RAW does for them and they really are limiting themselves and their photography because of their lack of knowledge. - Robert Scoble

RAW images are not always noticably better in a side-by-side, unprocessed comparison. However, they have major advantages when you're doing a lot of correction afterwards, particularly to bad white balances. If you shoot hundreds of images a day, RAW is not a practical choice. - Ian Betteridge

Ian: that's bull. Thomas Hawk shoots hundreds of images a day and shoots in RAW. I'm shooting tons of pictures every day in both RAW and JPEG and I can see the difference. I upload my JPEG's to Flickr for speed's sake, though, but I wouldn't consider making an image without keeping the RAW around. - Robert Scoble

Robert, your point about "historical record" highlights the BIG issue with RAW: it's not a standard format as such, but simply the raw sensor data. This means that there are lots of kinds of RAW, and no future-proofing. A Nikon NEF which is supported today might not be supported in 10 years time. Keeping your archives as RAW files is basically gambling that the (proprietary) format will still be supported in ten years time, something that you're not doing with JPG. - Ian Betteridge

Oh, and not all RAW is created equal: some types use lossy compression anyway, so you might as well shoot in JPG. - Ian Betteridge

Ian ALL professional cameras shoot in both JPG and RAW. In fact, the Nikon D3 has two Compact Flash card slots. You can set the camera to shoot in RAW on one card and JPEG on the other. That way you have both formats to work with. Even if I shot in RAW only, though, I'd convert my photos to JPEG that I wanted to save and I keep both the RAW format and the JPEG. - Robert Scoble

Scoble, I agree with all the points you make, but I still would argue that if you need speed, JPEG beats RAW. Even the D3 takes RAW at only 2.5 fps - Varun "Maverick" Pitale

Robert, does Thomas shoot hundreds of images a day without access to a laptop? How long, exactly, does he spend processing afterwards? If all he's doing is shooting raw and creating JPGs, he's wasting his time. What's more, if you're really seeing a big difference between raw and JPG, then the issue is your camera's JPG compression algorithms, not the efficiency of RAW. - Ian Betteridge

And, of course, if all Thomas is doing is using RAW as an archive format, then he's gambling that his particular kind of RAW will be supported in ten, twenty years time. That's a big gamble to take if archive photos are important to you. - Ian Betteridge

Varun: the D3 sure seemed to take a lot faster photos than that. I'll have to look into that. Ian: yes. He carries many gigabyte cards. He spends hours processing images. We'll cover this topic a lot more in depth on our new PhotoCycle show that'll start in mid-June. - Robert Scoble

Always RAW. It's amazing how much more data you can get out of a RAW image; highlights/shadows especially. - Benjamin Golub

Robert, I know that all pro cameras shoot in both. However, the way you're talking about RAW here is as if you can just dispense with JPG - ie "news photographers should keep a historical record in as high a quality as they can." Well sorry, but as an archive format RAW is just not a good choice. - Ian Betteridge

Robert, your example of how Thomas works makes the point very well that RAW doesn't work for all. Could a news photographer afford to stop mid-shoot and change a card? - Ian Betteridge

Ian: have you ever watched a news journalist work? They change cards all the time. I'll tell you what, I'll interview some news journalists about this topic and we'll come back to it. Most of the ones I know shoot in RAW because they want the absolute best image to work with as possible. Most news photographers (I watched quite a few work right next to me at Davos) carry three to five bodies and a crapload of memory cards so switching isn't that big a deal for them. - Robert Scoble

It is extremely rare that anyone needs to shoot for an extended length of time without taking a breath. In such situations anyway the best photographers have assistants who rotate cameras in with fresh cards. I watched Sports Illustrated work a World Series game and that's just what they did. The assistant was taking images off of the cards, processing them, and uploading them while the action was going on on the field. - Robert Scoble

"If you shoot hundreds of images a day, RAW is not a practical choice." Sure it is. In Aperture I set the correct white balance for 1 RAW image and batch apply it to all othe others in the same photo shoot. Most of the time this doesn't need to change at all. You can even batch apply sharpening/noise reduction/anything else. RAW does not slow me down; it makes my photos the best they can be. - Benjamin Golub

Some links. Thomas Hawk on Adobe Bridge: http://thomashawk.com/2006/10/... - Robert Scoble

Part I of Photoshop Lessons from Jan Kabili, where she talks about how to process RAW and other things that are important to making great images: http://www.podtech.net/scobles... - Robert Scoble

Part II of Photoshop Lessons from Jan Kabili: http://www.podtech.net/scobles... - Robert Scoble

Inside Photoshop CS3 with John Nack: http://www.podtech.net/scobles... - Robert Scoble

Robert, I used to be a news journalist - and I think you mean news photographer :) And yes, they change cards (and cameras) a lot. They'll be doing it a whole lot more if they shoot in RAW. Approximately 3-6x as often, in fact. That means you're much more likely to miss getting the best shot in busy circumstances. Don't get me wrong - RAW is great if the important thing is maximising your ability to post-process - but in some circumstances that's not what you're most interested in. - Ian Betteridge

I shot in RAW and do my post processing in Adobe Lightroom. Pics are saved on 2 external HDDs. - Marcel Janus

I shoot in RAW when I think post-processing of the image will improve it a lot. But the jpg's my DLSR creates are enough for me in 50-70% of the situations. This does depend on how much of a photoshopper you are. :) It helps if you know the limits of your camera. - roel

I just want to say that I love FriendFeed. This whole discussion started from a Tweet from a person that I don't follow. Now there are all these people adding to a new conversation on FF. This is good stuff. - Michael Carter

Great conversation. I shoot 100% in RAW. Every argument I've heard for shooting JPG above doesn't hold water in my opinion. You can fit hundreds of photos shot in RAW on an 8GB card -- even more on a 16GB. Swapping cards is no problem -- it can be done in seconds. I shoot 200-400 shots in a typical day. If I'm on an actual shoot typically over 1,000. Storage is cheap. You lose so much of your photo by shooting in JPG. There is no reason to only shoot in JPG for serious photographers. - Thomas Hawk

As soon as I get a RAW capable camera, I'm all over it. I'm waiting until CHDK supports my camera (SD 750) or I get a new one altogether. - ha3rvey (That One)

Canon took RAW away from the Powershot S80, booo - Shey

Mac OS X supports most Canon & Nikon RAW formats natively so you can preview RAW images in the finder or use QuickLook, so it isn't any more difficult to work with than JPEG. The difference is most obvious when you open a RAW file in Aperture, since it gives you more adjustment options. - Mike Hussein Cohen

Not sure why everyone moved away from this thread. What I'm wondering, is when I'm at the point where I'll be buying a DSLR, what do I get? Is there a current "king" of the DSLRs? - Jordan Hofker

Jordan, best advice is to try out a lot of different ones. Also depends on your price range. My own thoughts are to seriously consider both Canon and Nikon due to the extensive line up of fine lenses that both offer. Canon should be coming out with a new 5D shortly. That will be a hot DSLR and probably run about $3,500. the Nikon D3 runs about $5,000. You don't need to spend this much though and there are many seriously good cheaper models from both Canon and Nikon. - Thomas Hawk

Jordan, I'm about to retire my first DSLR (a Canon 20D) and am looking at replacing it with the Canon 450D... it's a step down in the Canon product line, but feature-by-feature is actually an upgrade for me... :) and, it's squarely within my hobbyist's budget at around $800... - Kenneth LeFebvre

Jordan, one thing to keep in mind that is just as important to get good lenses/glass as it is to get a good body! So save some money in your budget for some quality starter lenses (you can get some good prime lenses) - Chris Lewis via Alert Thingy

I'm late to the party, I seem to get more noise/grain from RAW than from JPG - in Adobe RAW and Aperture 2. Not enough to make me go back though. - Avelino Maestas

I sure wish I knew why this conversation is not being bumped up in FriendFeed when people post to it. Annoying. - Thomas Hawk

testing bump. - Thomas Hawk

I'm testing the bump also (with a like and a comment), but I have a question - what is the shelf life of a typical RAW image? Certainly you have more processing capabilities in the short term, but what about 5-10 years from now? I grant that JPEG won't be supported forever either, but if you're thinking long-term preservation, I would think that JPEG would offer a longer life. - Ontario Emperor

Testing bump Sat 3:10 AM JST (Fri 11:10 AM PDT). This article bumps in my "Comments" and "See both" pages, but is invisible in my "Friends" and "Likes" pages. - Mitchell Tsai

Ontario Emperor: That's precisely the impetus behind Adobe's DNG standard. It will provide a standard RAW format that will be more likely to last longer than individual manufacturer's formats... - Kenneth LeFebvre

I tried bumping another thread from Wednesday (Scott Kveton's Russian coke can from 2 days ago) with "no comments" and it wouldn't appear in my "Friends" page either. http://friendfeed.com/e/af9d24... So it's not just looong threads. Maybe a FriendFeed algorithm/cache/etc... issue. - Mitchell Tsai

I'd have to say that it all boils down to what you're going to use it for, which is part of the visualization process that Ansel Adams so heavily stresses. I look at the final use of the photo and make all of my decisions based on that, just like in the darkroom days. - Marc Silber

...love the flexibility of RAW to save your bacon when you forget a WB setting or the like. A sharper image is generally available to you as well. - JA Castillo

100% RAW. Why is this even a question? - TranceMist

I shoot RAW only and it is a noticeable difference (for me) between shooting JPG and RAW. However, I'm not too keen on the current crop of RAW processors. I am still a big fan of RawShooter which unfortunately does not handle UTF8 or GPS EXIF. - Jauder Ho

Sarah Perez posted a link

Microsoft Demos TouchWall - It's Like Surface for the Office!!

May 14 at 12:25 pm - Link

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I have the link to the video and timestamp in my post so you can see it for reals for yourself - Sarah Perez

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Well I'm impressed - Bwana McCall

Video comments will be appreciated when we're using these instead of laptops. - Rex Pechler

I find it hard to be less impressed. Might be possible, but maybe on the Microsoft Summit next year. - Dani Radu

First there was the Big Ass Table now it's the Big Ass picture frame? http://twurl.nl/1ntrz8 - Kevin Shannon

I'm very interested in the potential of this technology, I wonder what else Microsoft are experimenting with? - Ian Rathbone

Robert Scoble posted a message on Twitter

“Unfortunately the World Wide Telescope is Windows only.”

May 12 at 10:59 pm - Link

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surprise! uh what's linux anyway? - Susan Beebe

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as if the other OS was linux - Sam Pullara

That was surprising and disappointing. I seem to remember talk of a Mac version from your video interview with the developers. Guess it was just using the Mac hardware running Windows... - Niklas Morberg

I was crossing my fingers for a Mac version of World Wide Telescope, but no luck - David Orban

was not that impressed with the app - especially the nav, felt sluggish to pan and zoom - ben rogers via twhirl

The World Wide Telescope scoped to Windows - /(bb|[^b]{2})/ (Kamath) via twhirl

I see haters. Embrace the technology. Don't worry, you'll get a Mac version. And if it's sluggish, it may be your PC or something else. - Mo J.

Most dissapointing? It wont install on my Vista x64 it seems. The installer runs but I get no icon and no entry in Programs. Bummer. - Soulhuntre via twhirl

best of all? the "Mac" section in the install instructions... http://www.flickr.com/photos/h... - Hannes BrandstätterMüller via twhirl

Doesn't work in Parallels 3.0 with Windows XP for Mac - Chris Lewis via Alert Thingy

You can still look up at the stars with your bare eyes. :) - TranceMist

Not if you live in a major city, like me. ;) - Alejandro S.

Is anybody surprised. It is Microsoft! I'm running a Mac, too, but I can wait. Or use a Windows machine. - David Risley

Doesn't work in Bootcamp with XP on a Mac either, sigh - Sally Church via Alert Thingy

Marshall Kirkpatrick posted a message on Twitter

“wow,make sure 2check out @corvida's frightening tale of hurricane evacuation &getting help from Twitter this weekend! http://snurl.com/28hay”

May 12 at 7:32 am - Link

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tornado right? not a hurricane - acedanger via twhirl

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When Obama Wins

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When to use FriendFeed or Twitter?

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Exactly. Twitter ~ Chatroom, FriendFeed ~ Forum. This is why I'll use both for quite awhile. - Jordan Hofker

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I rarely post to Twitter, but when I do, it's typically from my iPhone. If I'm at a computer with a browser, it will always be FF. Then again, I'm someone who still doesn't "get" Twitter that much and have a difficult time following conversations. That's likely my own fault, though. - Vince DeGeorge

@J What s next one? ChatRoom twitter , forum ff, and....... FASTFOODR i think ; ) - Erhan Erdogan

Twitter is a god. FF will be, once all its minions arrive. There's not enough of my peeps on here to make this fun yet, but the potential is there. - Chad Norman

I agree, great video. - Aaron Myers

The main thing that I like about Twitter is the 140 character limit which forces people to provide a succinct and somewhat precise message which make for interesting and unusual information. I just started using Friend Feed and like it because it aggregates information. Twitter is just plain fun and Friend Feed is a way of organizing all of that fun and then some for info whores like @scobleizer and myself. - James

I've been saying friend feed is to twitter as ESPN is to Baseball. - Sean Reiser via Alert Thingy

I use Twitter for broad discussion and new viewpoints. FriendFeed tends to be more intimate, but with people "like me" - Mike Reynolds

yeah I like that analogy too -- conversations between multiple ppl much easier to come by on FF than Twitter. - Shey

I tend to use whatever is "closest", most times I do post to pownce, and some things just are better as a twit. FF does help bring everything together, I wish more of my contact used it. - Grant Bierman

FF is a mosaic painting that Twitter is a (big) part of. - Michael Dragone

@M.D. I think you are a mosaic painting too, what an aristocratic background you have : ) Nice comment ; ) - Erhan Erdogan

Similar dichotomies have existed before (in Microsoft Exchange, for example, you have email messages vs. threaded conversations in Public Folders), but there's usually some overlap... the interesting thing for me is that Twitter seems to be an acquired taste: at first you're all, "Huh? This is stupid" and then (maybe) you take a real liking to it. Whereas I "got" the idea of FriendFeed right away, I could see the utility, but I haven't taken a real liking to it at all. Twitter is CB Radio. - Karim

ha, info whore - Andrew Smith

I just get overwhelmed with "stuff" on Friendfeed. Half of the content are twitter messages and the rest is stuff that people link to through twitter. The only real reason I have for FF is to read content from friends on other networks, i.e. I Digg, but a friend may Reddit...I still want to read his stuff sometimes...p.s. it does seem easier to have a more indepth conversation here...and I'm seeing lots of comments from people that I don't follow otherwise...so maybe I'll have to take a second look. - Thomas Lopez Jr

I'm pretty new to twitter and ff so its interesting to see how ppl who have been on them for a while use the services. - Nelson de Witt

age on Twitter or wherever and it shows up on FF, ready for commentary. - Soulhuntre via twhirl

Apples and Oranges. FF has the broader net. Twitter is the river. I check Twitter more often. FF of course has the visuals. FF needs friend tagging like Pownce has. Actually, Twitter needs friend tagging too. - Jonathan Leavitt

Grr. Try #2 - I dont post to FF as a "first level" channel. I use twitter or whatever and then FF aggregates it for comment. - Soulhuntre via twhirl

Twitter is also *SIMPLE.* Twitter = iPhone, FriendFeed = Windows Mobile. Twitter is from Mars and FriendFeed is from Venus. Twitter is a hot dog and FriendFeed is escalopes de veau a l'estragon avec endives gratineed with cheese. - Karim

Ya know, I'm just jumping into the FF field, but it looks to me like you've nailed it. The most frustrating thing about Twitter for me is that it's like a chat room where you can't always see all the posts (if I'm not following the other half of a conversation); the FF layout solves some of that, as I don't need to be subscribed to everyone to see their comments. - Tim Glinatsis

friendfeed is the new irc...with a splash of rss - steveo

FriendFeed is from Mars, Twitter is from Venus. http://tinyurl.com/59rzyk - Hutch Carpenter

LOL Hutch, I stand corrected. A well-thought-out analysis you have there. It would be fascinating to compare male/female usage ratios of Twitter vs. FriendFeed. Are structured, threaded, hierarchical conversations from Mars, and free-form chats from Venus? Interesting question... - Karim

@Karim - thanks! There are differences between the two services, and I think the organization around content in FriendFeed creates some real differences with Twitter. Twitter is organized around the person you're talking to. - Hutch Carpenter

Interesting view of Twitter and Friendfeed. But how do you handle messages that you want to get via SMS? - Ryo

I share on Google Reader, update on Twitter, post on Blogger... FriendFeed catches it all as a nice archive (that I use to create a weekly/monthly newsletter for clients). I don't have the big community following so the commenting feature is not such a benefit. If/when I do get more conversations going, then I can see FriendFeed becoming more important. Twitter is more of an echo chamber when it comes to conversation. - Joining Dots

After watching this Post I will be using FriendFeed much more effectively and therefore Twitter less. - Brad Nix

I'm doing that already without being prompted, here provide's a very addictive source of information flow and discussion! - Joe Dawson

Does no one view Twitter as a lifestreaming microblogging service anymore? I realize that as a practical matter, it is chatty, but that doesn't need to define it. I do agree, tho, FF is more like a forum, without all the BS, which I like. - rambn

if it weren't for twitterfeed.com and the AIM option I'd never post to Twitter - Jon Gosier

twitter is like IRC - FF more like blog/wiki/forums - interesting video clip! - Jeroen De Miranda

Jeremiah Owyang posted a message on Twitter

“Twitter Poll: If your browser could view only ONE website in the world, which would it be?”

April 28 at 7:54 pm - Link

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Friendfeed - Shey

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that's easy ... www.ff0000.com - Chris Wallace via Alert Thingy

No answer is correct. If it were FriendFeed, you couldn't click out to any of the URLs, or see the Flickr thumbnails in full view. It'd be a constant tease. Using Twitter would let you chat, but about what? You couldn't go anywhere. Nice try. - Louis Gray

twitter - Igor Poltavskiy

No answer : ) Jeremiah you are a bad man, that's a frightening question. : ) - Erhan Erdogan

FriendFeed. I get more info on Google Reader, but FF's social features win out. - Mike Reynolds

since we couldn't click on any links, I'd go this one: http://www.veryshortlist.com - eclectic mix of great stuff in bite sizes - designdyke

Jeremiah i find the answer! You are a founder of a new web site like ONEwebsite.com. :D Or web 2.0 mission will be complete when we will have a web site like in your question! - Erhan Erdogan

Wikipedia - Paul Buchheit

Dave Hussein Winer published a photo on Flickr

San Francisco from Berkeley

April 24 at 1:42 pm - Link

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A great place. - Ryo via twhirl

Leo Laporte posted a message on Twitter

“My to-do list site, Remember the Milk, has released a Blackberry sync program - sweet. Well done Bob and Cow. http://rmilk.com”

April 24 at 4:00 am - Link

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cool yes, but available for Pro users only :-( - Murali

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Only 25 a yr.. not bad - Lisa Thompson via Alert Thingy

rtm needs to be able to sync with Palms. - Dan Nimtz via Alert Thingy

Yes, RTM is a superb app that deserves greater recognition. There is no sync program for my Palm Treo, but the mobile web app works great, and I also love the Gmail, Gcal, and iGoogle integration. - Andrew Carpenter via Alert Thingy

When i was looking for a todo list there was RTM or Hiveminder. RTM has more features but seemed harder to use and didn't have Hiveminder's braindump feature which I've found is great to just sit and hammer out tasks and then go back and organize them. - Bryan

I liek RTM but the UI is a bit week. Hiveminder has some awesome features, but the ui is also dense and its in (gak) Perl. So it wont scale. - Soulhuntre via twhirl

Thomas Hawk published photos on Flickr

April 23 at 5:13 pm - Link

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