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Windows 7 was my idea. Where are my residuals?
Tom Chaffer, Franklin Day and Roberto Bonini liked this
Hey it was my idea too :)
- Roberto Bonini
It was my idea first.
- Ⓒⓗⓡⓘⓢ Ⓟⓘⓡⓘⓛⓛⓞ
Yard Sale Treasure Map - A Yard Sale Planning Tool - http://www.yardsaletreasuremap.com/
Lester Greenberg, Mike Beahm, George Dearing and 6 other people liked this
Cool mashup that finds garage/yard sales and plots them on a map. Pulls data from Craigslist.
- Kevin Mullett
One of the more useful mashups I've ever seen
- Keith Barrett
Plurk the next big thing? @digitalfilipino asks the question. It's big in the PHL that's for sure. Maybe more content centric? #snebc
Freddie Benjamin, Toni @ NavinoT, Hutch Carpenter and 4 other people liked this
I liked Plurk when it launched...maybe once there is a full API it will interest me more.
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
I also liked it and used it when it first launched. It was very popular in Hong Kong too.
- Vinko
Plurk is definitely better for conversations compared to Twitter, maybe that's why it's more popular to Filipinos.
- Jonas
it's quite popular too in Indonesia
- Toni @ NavinoT
You've got to use Twitter apps to enhance conversations. Plurk is based on conversations, but with the search abilities of Twitter, it's going away from a pure person-centric model
- Paul Papadimitriou
What's amazing is the popularity of Multiply in the Philippines
- Paul Papadimitriou
Plurk is a big mess
- Francesco M.
watching a thunderstorm over the Gulf of Mexico
Morton Fox, Christine Cavalier, Susan Beebe and Franklin Day liked this
There's rain in the forecast here tomorrow.
- Morton Fox
When Is Social Networking Kosher In The Office? : NPR - http://www.npr.org/templat...
Melanie McBride, Vishy, Franklin Day and 2 other people liked this
"Yammer is a company that takes the basic idea behind Twitter and moves it to the workplace."
- Dave Winer
from Bookmarklet
On MSNBC a helicopter shot of a line for early voting in Atlanta, 8-to-10 hour wait. Mostly African-Americans. I've got goosebumps.
Rob Diana, Atul Arora, Mark Edwards and 16 other people liked this
FiveThirtyEight.com ran a neat chart linking early voting with racial demographics: http://bit.ly/2uoVPv
- Daniel J. Pritchett
my Iranian brother-in-law was excited last night. Never seen him like that.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble, it's pretty amazing. Hey are you going to be in the Bay Area on Tuesday night? Sent you an invite via email (I know you sometimes don't check email).
- Dave Winer
Was there dancing involved? Surely you caught a video for us!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
It's interesting, could we see a whole new wave of people voting because for once they see someone that kind of looks like them, speaks for them, etc. For ages it's been choosing between the white guys ... and that might have turned a lot of people away
- AJ Kohn
Great info, FiveThirtyEight.com is such a great resource
- Justin Yost
You make it sound like African-Americans in Atlanta never vote.
- Tony Kanzia
There are a lot of irregularities in early voting here in MO.
- Robert Hafer
Dave, my wife and I voted there. 90-minute lines all day, every day, for two weeks. Watching several Spelman students cast their first vote was very special.
- John Craft
Early voting via absentee (mail-in) ballot is the best. Cast my vote for Obama here in Florida a few days ago. So did my wife.
- Mike Reynolds
Dave: yeah, got your email. Thanks! Not sure yet where I'll be. We're leaving for China the next morning, might make it to Berkeley.
- Robert Scoble
Google's Brin says the OS is toast because of Chrome: http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008... . Maybe, but sitting on a Mac, I wouldn't know.
Franklin Day liked this
I am thinking Mini Microsoft played a role by exposing management problems.
Dani Radu, Franklin Day, Alberto Lopez and 5 other people liked this
Before you left Microsoft, I said that your efforts, as well as that of Mini-Microsoft, really helped to lend a human face to the monolith. Along with MSFTExtremeMakeover (RIP), Mini-Microsoft has been an outstanding critic and well-written.
- Louis Gray
OK, customer support from Zappos RULES. Every other company should take notes.
Andy Lynch, Liz Pruszko, Tyler Crowley and 12 other people liked this
What is Zappos?
- Mattb4rd
They're really stellar. I ordered boots that had a scuff on them, and so they've sent me a replacement with overnight shipping and a coupon for my next order! Plus, they're having the warehouse check the next boots to make sure they're not scuffed too. Awesome. And this was all over Live Chat!
- Veronica
Zappos is great. I ordered some sandals, wore them for about 2 months and then they started to literally fall apart, the seams just stopped staying together, they let me return them even though they were not in resellable condition and replaced them with a new pair (that i eventually had to return because it didn't fit) Just his week I ordered Ugg Walleys and the first pair was twoo small so they overnighted me the next pair. I love Zappos, it seems I get upgraded expedited shipping everytime.
- Andrew Fielding
I love Zappos service!! They make it so easy to buy and return items that don't fit or that you decide you do not want. Every other on line vendor should take note.
- Jeff P. Henderson
This all sounds great from the customers' point-of-view, but I wonder if it's good for business. Clearly they lost a lot of money on Andrew Fielding.
- Leo Laporte
@Leo, their stuff is kind of expensive - at least full retail price, and considering they don't have to pay retail store rent, they are probably doing OK.
- Laura Norvig
Leo, they actually have now made money off of me. I've posted about how awesome they are on my blog and have ordered expensive shoes from them as well as signed up for their Credit Card with Chase bank. That one act of customer service has made me a loyal customer for life.
- Andrew Fielding
If their business model was not profitable, I'm sure they would have changed it by now. Seems like treating the customer well is almost always a good business plan.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Here is some insight into Zappos business model and what makes it so successful. http://discussionleader.hbsp.com/taylor...
- Jeff P. Henderson
Imagine if I said "good going! high five" to every one of your tweets. It would get old fast.
Dave Winer, Franklin Day, Orli Yakuel and 6 other people liked this
good going! high five
- Suvi-Tuuli Allan
word up! w00t!
- jeneane sessum
Good going! High five!!
- Dave Winer
Hoooty Hoo!
- Rah-PM 2012
I ate a mango!
- iTad
I like turtles
- Josh Haley
Rasheen, I'm not the only one that says 'hooty hoo'!
- FFing Enigma
Let's try it. Sounds fun. :D
- Nate Pilling
from twhirl
I like pie
- Laura Norvig
@Nate, I'm in! High five!
- jeneane sessum
Bacon, FTW
- Eric
More sugar!
- Dave Martin
Oh jeez. I have a co-worker who does this constantly.
- Akiva
I Like Muffins!
- Rah-PM 2012
For whatever reason, I had a vision of Ed McMahon (or rather, the parody of him) saying, "Yes! You are correct, sir!" Oh dear.
- Chris Brogan
mmmmmm pie
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
densaugeo!
- ɥsıuɐʎɹ
I think that's the equivalent of when someone posts "Nice shot" as the entire content of a comment on Flickr.
- Aaron B. Hockley
bonza you beauty!
- Duncan Riley
Hi Five!
- Roberto Bonini
Old for you maybe, but everyone else is having a ball!
- Michael C. Harris
The Next Social Networks Will Not Be Powered By Blog Platforms - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
bill giltner, Martin Recke, Dobromir Hadzhiev and 9 other people liked this
I agree with your conclusion, but I come to it via a technical path... The next gen of social networks will need to start at Facebook's volume as a baseline of activity and scale exponentially from there as social networks become more mainstream. As Twitter has shown us, these 2 tier database backed architectures are simply incapable of supporting these requirements.
- Jason Carreira
I think Sweetcron, an app soon to be released here in Japan, might change this. If I'm right about what it will be, it will be the next WordPress, the next evolution in self-hosted blog platforms more attuned to the multi-channel media that we involve ourselves in these days.
- Ray Grieselhuber
URL: http://www.sweetcron.com (I have no affiliation)
- Ray Grieselhuber
What Sara wrote was more right than wrong. MT Pro has OpenID 2.0 built in, plus OAuth libraries for plugin developers. SixApart demoed their implementation of Facebook Connect, which allows a user to use their Facebook login on MT. The same should be coming for Google's OpenSocial APIs. Personally, I like the direction that MT is going in; I'd rather have a MT site with the social networking stuff than a Ning site.
- Albert Willis
Ray, I think it's a bit much to say something that hasn't even been released yet is going to be the next WordPress. I hope it does well, of course, but there are new blog platforms out there doing interesting things, like Habari and Chyrp.
- Michael C. Harris
Michael - point taken, but I did qualify it with "if I'm right." I've been known to be wrong before. :-)
- Ray Grieselhuber
Chyrp and Habari look pretty cool, though.
- Ray Grieselhuber
i believe MT and WP - toghether with data portability - do have a chance to change the way we blog, in a more interactive and "social" way.
- Markingegno - Donato
I should have added a disclaimer, I'm a committer on the Habari project. Interested parties welcome to join our little community :)
- Michael C. Harris
Gregory, I can only speak for Habari, but security is certainly something we consider all the time. For example, we use PDO to protect against SQL injection attacks. Also, see http://wiki.habariproject.org/en....
- Michael C. Harris
quote- "features such as forums are old school." Yep.
- Kevin Gamble
We are drinking rose wine and lattes while eating gelato. Would @garyvee approve? Probably not but we don't give a damn at this point. :-)
Franklin Day and Yolanda liked this
does rose wine and lattes go toggether? or doesn't it matter?
- Jonathan Jesse
Let us know how you feel in the morning :)
- Charlie Anzman
as long as there was some exercise today
- Ryan
Michael R. Bernstein, Lora Lufark, Stephen Pierzchala and 10 other people liked this
I agree. I knew things have been "tense" for sometime but an actual shooting war? Wow, that was a surprise.
- Steve
give them time they are all focused on #080808. They can not be as agile as us. How can they follow the cloud, when the cloud doesn't know where it is going yet.
- Jonathan Ferguson
Isn't anyone thinking of the CELEBRITIES? Damn news media!
- abacab
But that's when it's sensational...
- Clay Newton
the problems Georgia and Russia have been well know for awhile , ever since the Rose Revolution. Kinda why Georgia wants to join NATO , so Russia doesn't invade them....... oh wait
- Carl Backstrom
Looks like we are back into 19th century "spheres of influence" politics. You'd think after the Cold-War everything would have been peachy.
- Stephen James
Its also funny that twitter reports are faster than the AP now.
- The Dude Dean
The Dude - that's nothing new. A mailing list I was on heard about 9/11 before the media did.
- hex
What women know - http://howto.opml.org/dave...
Rakesh, Dave Martin, Dileepa Prabhakar and 49 other people liked this
See also: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Dave Winer
HA!
- Mona Nomura
I think my entire office heard me laugh at that one...
- Justin Korn
It's a variant of the old joke -- If a man says something in a forest and there's no woman present, is he still wrong? :-)
- Dave Winer
Wrong again. That's the first thing they know.
- Russell Holliman
Or it could be all ten things. :-)
- Dave Winer
as in "you're wrong wrong wrong..." - yea, definititly.
- Russell Holliman
Wrong! Definitely ;)
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
- Steven Perez
Ha I must start hanging out with a different sort!
- Sean Kelly
Brilliant Dave, brilliant.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Dave! ROFL....
- susan mernit
Puh-leeze!
- Sherrilynne Starkie
The only reason 1-9 are blank is because we haven't chosen to share it with y'all... it would really be too much for your minds to handle! ;)
- Lucretia Pruitt
It's starting to happen, Friendfeed dumbing down with this mindless drivel... Time to move on, then! *sigh*
- Mario Olckers
Slow Motion Video of Lightning - http://feeds.laughingsquid.com/~r...
JECO Photo, Franklin Day, M. Donaldson and 3 other people liked this
Lots of lightning here in Florida. Interesting to see it in slo mo.
- Brenda Young
Rich People Rooftops NYC - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
elif kavalci, mersenne, Ray Metzen and 7 other people liked this
wow, cool set of photos! when i lived in nyc, i was always amazed at the rooftop gardens and courtyards hidden in the middle of blocks.
- Hillary Hartley
Gas prices are getting RIDICULOUS in Seattle: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
ChaCha Fance and Franklin Day liked this
Weird, they are dropping here in the 'Lou.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
lmao & I thought it was bad here in Kansas lol. Gas is almost the same as minimum the wage here.......
- ChaCha Fance
SONY PICTURES ACQUIRES EXCLUSIVE WORLDWIDE CROSS PLATFORM DISTRIBUTION RIGHTS TO ROCKETBOOM - http://dembot.com/post...
Sarah Austin, Mark Derricutt, Elias Torres and 37 other people liked this
Congrats on the deal Andrew!
- Aaron Krug
Excellent. Can't imagine how hard it must have been at times to hold out for what you wanted. Very brave. Congratulations.
- Amyloo
well done
- Ouriel Ohayon
Congrats to the team. Hope your content and style is embraced by Sony and you retain your creative freedom!
- Glenn Batuyong
awesome!!! congrats!
- David Parmet
from twhirl
Fabulous news for you, Andrew, as well as Joanne, Kenyatta and the rest of the crew -- many congratulations.
- Stephen Mack
Thanks again everyone, 'pretty damn psyched!
- Andrew Baron
It just goes to show you that hard work and perseverance pays off. You guys really did it the right way. Hopefully I won't have to get a damn PS3 to see the show. ;)
- Sean-Michael Robinson
That is quite an accomplishment Andrew. Its inspirational to here your struggles and successes over the last few years. 7 figures is nothing to balk
- Chris Conway
at in this economy. Now I suppose you can affoard a 6 fugure idea man on your team. hahaj.k.
- Chris Conway
Thanks for the detailed post on this Andrew, and especially for outlining how you explored options with traditional entertainment co's and hired CAA as reps... Those are avenues I've considered with an entertainment news property I'm developing (nothing like Rocketboom) and it's encouraging to see that strategy pay off. It's also pretty awesome to see someone benefit from the hard work and creative drive connected to a passion for a project rather than an industry. Congrats and best wishes for the future!
- Stacy Bond
Congrats Andrew, you were a pioneer long before anyone else. Looking forward to seeing what else you do with Rocketboom.
- Robert Scoble
Congratulations, Andrew! - You've totally earned it.
- Julie Perry
Kudos Andrew. Does this mean Rocketboom will include rootkits now? :P Make the most of it!
- Mark Forman
Social Bookmarking: The Race to Be Famous or a Tool? - http://mashable.com/2008...
S. Charles Balazs and Franklin Day liked this
Twitter will kick themselves for missing this (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
cori, S. Charles Balazs, Sylvain Carle and 72 other people liked this
Imagine if the world of Instant Messaging had been under one roof, if one vendor had invented it, and had 100 percent market share. Further, what if that vendor had the foresight that there would be other vendors and that compatibility between their services would make a huge market, and that incompatibility would keep the market fragmented and relatively small. What would that vendor have done?
- Dave Winer
from Bookmarklet
Dave - I don't quite understand your argument for how Twitter could have been the NSOL of microblogging. Are you saying that Twitter should have been the site that binds every other micro-blogging service together?
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I don't understand your question, sorry. All I get from it is your first phrase that you don't understand me. So neither of us understand each other. Oh well. Maybe someone else can bridge the void..
- Dave Winer
Love it Dave. We're having a meta conversation about microblogging. Maybe I'll go craft an old fashioned blog post of my own to try and elaborate/clarify :)
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
It's kind of like this Apple commercial. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Dave Winer
Exactly!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Another example, I read somewhere on FF the other day that people took a feed from a music room here and added it to iTunes and it knew what to do with it! I feel really proud of that cause it was made possible by some early foundation work I did with RSS, a long time ago, paying off now for users. Exactly the kind of foresight I would like to see Twitter do now.
- Dave Winer
Now that I get. Thanks Dave.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Dave, yes you spot on (once again !). However, twitter doing it is basically like asking like asking water to turn to honey. Only a miracle can make it happen. The underlying architecture of Twitter, really can't support a framework of collaborative sharing of info with other 3rd party vendors. FB did a great job with creating the app that was actually a platform. FF seems to be like this, twitter is ouf of the window.
- Peter Dawson
Do you think the problem lies in the fact that they are a Valley startup that needs to look like something Google or Yahoo would buy and put ads on.
- Harold Gilchrist
from twhirl
Harold, I don't think there's a "problem" -- they're overworked and head-down and faced with an enormous amount of opportunity. It must be hard to sort through it all, and to them, a missive like this from me probably sounds pretty shrill. "Oh there he goes again." I don't blame them for this, but I would be remiss if I didn't put my stake in the ground so we can play Monday Morning Quarterback in 2010 or so. (Murphy-willing, knock wood!)
- Dave Winer
I suspect that the problems from this past weekend are only going to exacerbate the problem. http://tinyurl.com/5pkpjs Not only have they missed they opportunity, but poor communication and support are seriously eroding the customer base. That the victims of this weekend's situation included several strong Twitter evangelists has unfortunate potential. Even tho the folks involved seem to mostly still carry a fondness for Twitter, their followers witnessed the problems and were involved in the solution.
- Patricia F. Anderson
"Imagine if the world of Instant Messaging had been under one roof, if one vendor had invented it, and had 100 percent market share." Wasn't that *mostly* true of AOL, though? Didn't AOL consolidate their position by buying up ICQ? Didn't they drag their feet for years and years on efforts to make their IM play well with others? By illustrating your point with IM, perhaps you have...
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- Karim
Likewise, Network Solutions is an example of *abuse* of a dominant position: in 1995 they charged $100 to register a domain name for 2 years, which led to an antitrust lawsuit. They've also been guilty of domain name censorship, domain name slamming, subdomain hijacking, domain name frontrunning, selling WHOIS information, etc. ad nauseam.
- Karim
I, for one, am glad their business model didn't become IP of a namespace
- Ross Mayfield
I'm really surprised that this weekend's problems of account closings haven't caused more of a fuss. It seems to me that it would be such a big deal, it would be the final straw that would get most of the major twitter advocates to finally pay attention to the whole issue of federation of microblogging. Also: this is the umptyzillionth thing that's made the thought go thru my mind that they must be *trying* to fail!
- Tegan Dowling
@Karim: While AIM is definitely the dominant IM standard here in the US, it doesn't even come close to being so abroad. People I know in India and Australia, for example, don't even know what "AIM" is. Yahoo and MSN Messengers are both the dominant IM networks there. I think that Dave's example very much reflects why Twitter would have done better in the long-term with an open model.
- Mohit
It would be great to see FriendFeed run their own laconica service (identi.ca).
- Dan Cameron
Isn't Identi.ca exactly what you're looking for? FriendFeed doesn't support multiple instances of FriendFeed, but I'm already party of multiple Laconica (the source of Identi.ca) networks via one seamless interface. There are some kinks, sure, but I'm bowled over by how much they've gotten done in a month.
- Marina Martin
Marina, I am an identi.ca user. How do I follow a user on another laconi.ca server? How do they follow me? Please post a pointer to the docs. This is very important.
- Dave Winer
Dave, when you are on the profile page of a user on another laconica server (such as mine: http://waka.me/wil) just click on the Subscribe button. It will then ask you for your profile URL (yours would presumably be http://identi.ca/dave) then submit the form. Your browser will do an OAuth redirect dance, after which you should be subscribed to me.
- Wil
from MojiPage
Mohit, the market is badly fragmented *now.* QQ is huge in China. Yahoo! and MSN started beta testing interop only in 2006. Google whipped out their checkbook and paid AOL a billion dollars for interop, and even that is lame -- AIM users can't see GTalk users from AIM. My point was that AOL *used to be* the dominant IM, just as Network Solutions *used to be* the largest domain name...
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- Karim
(continued) be different. Maybe "We learn from history that we do not learn from history." -- G.W.F. Hegel
- Karim
With Genie Out of Bottle, Obama Is Careful on Race - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...
Mohit, Steven Perez, Franklin Day and 8 other people liked this
I just started using the FF bookmarklet. It's really cool. I was wondering how people were posting all those great pictures. Now I know.
- Dave Winer
The FF bookmarklet is definitely quite cool. Wish the information about its capabilities were a little clearer. But I guess since I was able to figure it out then most people can.
- Scott Jarkoff
How do I get this bookmarklet?
- shelisrael1
@shelisrael1 http://friendfeed.com/share...
- Jack Wilson, K4SAC
With Mento you can bookmark pages and even grab a screenshot. Mento is automatically posting the bookmarked page to Friendfeed if you want.. ;)
- Timo Heuer
An algorithym for block spam here on FriendFeed: if an account has x more blocks than subscribers put the account into jail where it won't show up in anything others than the jail. I don't like Facebook's policy of deleting stuff. Just move it to jail.
Austin Hill, Rah-PM 2012, Shey and 40 other people liked this
I like the idea, except maybe it could be modified so that it would not punish new accounts. If someone is blocked by the very first person who sees their them, they would go to jail before they could even get subscribers. Maybe there could be a probationary period for new users so that they wouldn't immediately be put in the jail. Or there could be a minimum number of hides before they are jailed
- Thomas B
That's why I said "x" because it shouldn't be one.
- Robert Scoble
I like the jail argument.
- Cem Catikkas
For what it's worth, I created a room tonight to list FF spammers (http://friendfeed.com/rooms...). I only have 2 in there right now, but I figure as people add more it gives us a central place to go through and just block them as they pop up. It would be fantastic if FF took care of the spammers on their own but for now I think this will hopefully help.
- Robert DeBord
This further illustrates the problem with Friendfeed Rooms. Just like Facebook has way too many "kinda similar" groups, which results in overlapping groups trying to do the same thing. http://friendfeed.com/rooms... Part of the reason why I haven't been really using the FF rooms feature very much.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
See, what happens if you get bunch of spammer accounts that blocks bunch of legit posts? What is that called? Reverse spamming?
- Cem Catikkas
@Cem I think it's called a false positive (like if a CAPTCHA prevents a legitimate user from doing something)
- Thomas B
@Cem: I think there would have to be a human element involved, like an appeal process. Also, if I could expand on Robert's algorithm: 'Jail' = 'x'% of blocks and/or 'y' > Followers, 'Y' could be points for identical posts or excessive hyper-links.
- Johnny
I must admit, I am afraid of the spam that will show here eventually
- Stewart Rogers
It's not going to take long for the Twitter spammers to figure out FF exists - I've had a load there the last 2 weeks from people spamming about the6figureteam.com.
- Sally Church
The way twitter spammers can be identified is via their following/followed ratio and the rate at which they follow people. I saw one today that was following 500 people in every 4 minutes. Perhaps a similar metric could be used here?
- Mr. Gunn
YEAH ROBERT!!! great idea!! jackass jail... fantastic!
- Susan Beebe
so what will the user say ? "I'm jailbreaking the FF jail ?"
- Peter Dawson
So where's the march onto Facebook for exposing such negative emotions in the first place? Amnesty or Attica!
- Roney Smith
@Digidave ethanol is a stupid idea. We are going to starve people because of that idea.
Mahdi Ebrahimi, asiriusgeek, Christian Anderson and 14 other people liked this
starve people?
- sedgewick
Really liking the fact that every one of these comments on twitter is spawning a whole new thread/convo on FF. ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Agree Robert. Here's some data points on the ethanol debate: http://is.gd/SA7
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Agreed ethanol is stupid, using land to create fuel at the expense of food. Perhaps algae might be an alternative to that though
- Mo Kargas
When there is starvation and hunger in the world, it is utterly moronic to use a food source as a fuel source. In the hierarchy of needs, eating comes before automobiles ANY day.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Cyanobacteria as fuel/energy producer holds some promise. http://www.utexas.edu/news...
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Any alternative will prompt problems...Detrimental effects of algae include damaged oceanic ecosystem, increased waste after oil sequestration, production logistics.
- Andy Angelos
DARPA should be working on that project, will see if any alternative fuel cars show up this year at the Urban Challenge.
- MedicalQuack
Daniel Quinn would argue that the source issue is rampant human population growth- which sources from ever-expanding food supply
- sedgewick
I mention algae because it will grow on already polluted watersystems, therefore gaining use from otherwise untenable areas.
- Mo Kargas
There's a problem with everything. Ulltimately, we need to conserve and not just look for a quick fix.
- Francine Hardaway
from twhirl
Agreed Francine, though I think the most immediate step and perhaps quick fix itself is reducing consumption across the board
- Mo Kargas
@Andy I agree with you. Every solution has it's own set of problems. Believing that there's a perfect solution is just foolish. It's just about choosing which set of problems we could live with. I doubt algae can be fully contained within a desert.Large changes anywhere and for anything will prompt consequences, always.
- Chris Chua
from fftogo
they can grow algae that eats co2
- Eric Schlissel
from twhirl
I just wish we'd do something - drill in Alaska, open up more Nuclear plants, whatever it takes, but something is better than nothing like we've had thus far. (note, I voted for him, unfortunately) George Bush has had a tremendous opportunity to get a deal for oil from Iraq - why haven't we seen anything there? *something* needs to be done, I don't care what.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
I actually agree, which is why I find it weird that we have a government mandate.
- David Cohn
Eric - Doesn't all algae consume CO^2?
- Andy Angelos
I agree with mokargas. I wish more of the debate was how we can use less energy regardless of it source. No matter what we're pumping into our Hummers, that energy may have been put to better use elsewhere, ethanol being one of the more egregious examples
- Brian Pharris
@andy I left out the word emissions - like from smoke stacks - I'm having a hard time typing tonight :)
- Eric Schlissel
from twhirl
Ethanol is a good idea, but not having it derived from corn. There are other sources that can be used to generate ethanol.
- imabonehead
ima: growing stuff means taking resources away from food production.
- Robert Scoble
@robert - except when that "stuff" is single cell algae & bacteria. +1 if they consume CO2 & can grow without O2.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
As a side note, here's a table of how green biofuels are - http://is.gd/jvH
- imabonehead
Not necessarily, Robert. It's not a straight zero sum game. There are certainly sources for organic material that could be used for cellulosic ethanol production without detracting from food production. But that conversation's over here http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Ken Sheppardson
I'll restate what many here have said, ethanol is a pretty good idea, just not from corn. There are other, safer ways around it. But, better yet is have other renewable energy sources like the wind and solar.
- Danilo da Silva
First generation - especially corn based - ethanol is stupid just like the first generation of most new technologies are impractical. Ethanol has a future, probably involving a lot of genetic modifications in both the plant and the algae/fungus/nanobots/whatever to convert it to energy. Also, the hippies aren't wrong, hemp is much more efficient than other plants to create energy. This should be a different debate from the one around drugs.
- Nicholas Molnar
There's a few startups are working towards alternative energy led byShai Agassi (SAP), Elon Musk (co-founder of PayPal and Tesla Motors), and Vinod Khosla (co-founder of Sun Microsystems and venture capitalist). Source: http://is.gd/SCX
- imabonehead
Ethanol's OK, it's corn which is the problem. Long term, algae for E85/E95 is very promising.
- James
@kshep that is exactly why I love FriendFeed so much.
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I'd be liking it a whole lot more if it let you merge items manually, e.g. you could combine all your energy posts into 1 item
- Ken Sheppardson
Yeah Ken - then we'd be mixing ethanol and nuclear discussions.
- Hutch Carpenter
Which is why I suggest manual. One could keep the ethanol separate from the nuclear... or combine them. Author's choice. How many ethanol items/threads are there on FF now?
- Ken Sheppardson
Seeing two. One will die, or they'll go strong on two different tangents.
- Hutch Carpenter
Right, you're only seeing two because you only follow Robert. Any threads originating from Twitter posts from people other than Robert in reply to his posts--i.e. that were just @scobleizer--are basically invisible to you. And I realize Robert having the ability to combine his related comments into a single thread won't fix THAT, but it's a start.
- Ken Sheppardson
True (although I am following 592 people)...are you following some alt energy enthusiasts? Post a link to an entry, I'd like to check it out.
- Hutch Carpenter
Sorry, I was trying to make a feature/process point... not talking about energy specifically.
- Ken Sheppardson
Loren Feldman has a new home page. It's really cooool! http://1938media.net/
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- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Was that Shel's cat?Just askin
- Mark Forman
No no -- the cat is Loren Feldman, 1938 Media.
- Dave Winer
Given any battle that matters, my chips are with the mensch. Kudos, Dave
- Dave Martin
Very mature. ;-)
- Leo Laporte
Ah, but now Loren will unleash a video on you. And video is a big thing. Michael Nesmith said so, in Rolling Stone classifieds circa 1980...
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Oh I can't wait for him to "unleash" it -- it's so dangerous. :-)
- Dave Winer
And so manly.
- Dave Winer
Cool Dave! We think alike. His one (off) note trick is being mean to people (and not doing anything constructive).
- Pokai
Puerile but what else might we expect?
- Dennis Howlett
from twhirl
Social Wars v2.0 - brought to you by Dave.
- Vic Podcaster
I'm disappointed. Dave, what is the expected outcome of this? And who will it benefit?
- Mohamed J
It's just for fun, and it can always come down. But not until shelisrael.com comes down. And he lays off attacking people for a while. I also think he's being paid to go after people. So this just balances things out. If he attacks someone, I can give them a chance to be heard on equal terms with Loren. You're entitled to be disappointed Mo, that's okay, and keep expressing your opinion.
- Dave Winer
Okay, good then there's nothing to worry about! I really don't think you can help yourself Loren, my complaint is with the people who support you. I read somewhere that you're happy to make videos just for yourself.
- Dave Winer
Fine. Go for it. Hope it makes you feel good.
- Dave Winer
Is that a picture of Dave taking a dump? Looks like kind of a pussy to me.
- Frank Roche
I love the block command in FriendFeed.
- Dave Winer
What happened to your hilarious venture into puppeteering, Dave? http://tinyurl.com/5rsxxk
- John Newsjunk
wow... we're entering third grade territory here...
- David Parmet
from twhirl
I'm honestly shocked, Dave. Loren's puppets are funny in a non-insulting way AKA *JOKE*! However, this is just sad. I hope it was worth the $6.95 from Godaddy.
- Mark Frost
from twhirl
Mark, as you say it's just $7, I spend more on that for a sandwich. I also bought 1938media.org, so I've actually got $14 invested in Loren's future. I don't like the puppets, but I understand totally that he has a right to do what he's doing. I also understand the idea of doing art for yourself. However, I want to support Shel, who is a real person, who despite what Loren feels, is being hurt. And I want people like Jason Calacanis and Mike Arrington to at least stop promoting this. Dan Farber too.
- Dave Winer
Also, I didn't see anyone else standing up for Shel, and that really bothered me. I was doing it privately, until a friend of mine (who can speak for himself, and I hope he does) called me on it. I gave it some thought and decided that I should say something. I have First Amendment rights as well, people seem to overlook that. And people say it's dangerous to push back. I don't buy into that either. Loren isn't that talented or powerful, sorry to say Loren.
- Dave Winer
Satire that's based on abuse of people stops being funny to most people pretty quickly. And if my speaking up causes him to accelerate the abuse, which he's said it will, then that will shorten his 15 minutes of fame, or force him to get really creative, either result would be great. His humor gets old quick. Esp when you find out that real people are being hurt by it. Most people are basically good, and when they find this out, they do stop and think.
- Dave Winer
I want a site that ridicules me too. humiliate me damn it. I'm important! http://1938media.net/
- NoahDavidSimon
that's soo gross...
- Susan Beebe
DAve, I support u fully on this . Whats good for da Goose has to be good for the Gander to !!
- Peter Dawson
I just don't get what you are accomplishing with this and by claiming you are defending Shel. Most people don't like Shel's obsessive hatred of Loren's puppet and the videos. He goes around and interviews web personalities and makes it a show rather than a boring interview, it's very unique. Also, I don't know were Loren's satire has turned to abuse and I've seen every puppet video he's done. His 15 minutes of fame is growing longer and longer as we sit here and discuss him, he'll be on CNET soon enough.
- Mark Frost
from twhirl
Thanks Jamie for that link. Stowe and I have kissed and made up. I think he's like everyone else, trying to make a difference and earn a living. When I clicked on the other link I got "Twitter is over capacity" -- for once I agree with its judgment.
- Dave Winer
Global Neighbourhoods: About Loren Feldman & Michael Arrington - http://redcouch.typepad.com/weblog...
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It's good to get Shel's perspective on this whole thing.
- Thomas Hawk
I wrote my thoughts on the most recent shel israel video here: http://www.1938media.com/shel-is... I was attacked by all the trolls on Loren's site. I think more people need to voice their feelings to Loren's sponsors, eg Zong, Cnet, etc. If all Loren's key partners get a lot of complaints, Loren may rethink his strategy
- Adrian Bye
CNET is a sponsor? This is crazy. These people have lost their minds. Dan Farber used to be a mensch. You must be mistaken.
- Dave Winer
Dan Farber is the one who HIRED Loren. He also did a puppet interview. here's a link to the "news": http://mashable.com/2008...
- Robert Seidman
CNET is trying to get all edgy. Fail.
- Cyndy
I was wondering why Dan and CNet thought this a good fit, but hey that's their call.
- Mark Forman
Well, I just put a link to Shel's article on Scripting News. I don't normally ask people to link to things but this is one of those times -- link to Shel's article let's make sure that all of TechCrunch's sponsors find out what's going on. I've had enough of this. I can't believe all the people that are dirty here, and I don't understand what for. If there were some embezzlement or fraud it might make sense. But to destroy one harmless person? This is ridiculous. What the fuck is TechCrunch's CEO doing?
- Dave Winer
I'm not sure about edgy, but like it's new parent CBS, scrambling to attract "younger viewer demographics"
- Robert Seidman
I can't imagine CBS wants a scandal.
- Dave Winer
Dave, the PTC is trying to knock "Swingtown" off the air, Loren would be small potatoes relatively speaking.
- Robert Seidman
I just sent an email to Dan Farber. I've known him for 25 years. He's always been a good guy.
- Dave Winer
what Dan Farber's email ? I would like to tell him that I dont support Loren's pranks no more. It was fun while it lasted.
- Peter Dawson
I got an email through to David Marcus, the CEO of Zong. Zong is the sponsor of the "shel israel puppet" show. His blog is here: http://www.davidmarcus.net/
- Adrian Bye
wow, this is really starting to heat up.
- Thomas Hawk
I just had a long phone talk with Mike Arrington about this and other topics. I'm not going to post any more on this until I've had a chance to think a bit about it.
- Dave Winer
Well, let us know your thoughts.
- Andru Edwards
When the dude said he did not like it, that's when it stopped being funny. Which was a long time ago. There's really not that much to think about beyond that. Stop. No. I don't like it. Pretty hard to misinterpret.
- Dominic Jones
I understand the notion of feeling attacked, but all industries deserved to be skewered. In fact it's a duty I think. Puppets are a great platform for this, and Loren is essentially satirizing an industry that, while it produces amazing things, can take itself too seriously. I think he is welcome until he's unwelcome. Such is life.
- Seamus Condron
I think Loren is doing a major public service with his puppets. They are funny and poke fun in great ways. But if a guy is losing key parts of his business, then its a different story. That is hurting him and his family. Dave, I really look forward to hearing your thoughts. Perhaps there's an inside story we are not aware of.
- Adrian Bye
lawl - mike scared dave
- Mark Lepzig
looking forward to hearing your thoughts after your conversation with Mike Dave. If it changes your thinking on this I'd be seriously interested in why. Obviously something Mike said had an impact on how you feel about this now or you wouldn't be taking the time away to think about it. I hope you can share what he said to you with the rest of us.
- Thomas Hawk
No he didn't scare me. Geez. And my sympathy for Shel will not change either. I encouraged Mike to help him. Obviously that's his decision.
- Dave Winer
Dave, you seemed to be escalating this campaign to go after Loren's advertisers/sponsors. I'm not saying that is the right or wrong thing to do, I'm just curious what Mike said and how it may have changed how you think about the situation.
- Thomas Hawk
Just a note: I don't know how this translates in English, but french people say: "Le linge sale se lave en famille".
- directeur
Welcome to the interwebs-where "dead horses" are resurrected only to be kicked again.
- Mark Forman
Just used the FriendFeed block command for the first time. It's every bit as good as Twitter's. "Nick" need not worry about his FF getting clogged with whining. :-)
- Dave Winer
My French is horrible directeur, but I think the loose translation would be "Don't air your dirty laundry in public"
- Robert Seidman
Robert: Yes, that sounds the same :)
- directeur
Just wanted to say by that, that involving the crowd we are in such things just give them more importance (than they deserve?) and maybe can harm too. IMO it's always wiser to filter, jauge and ponder things calmely first. The web is such a mess... take something, push it through an amplifier and the result will be bigger than the original
- directeur
Directeur-And you don't think many of the people involved in this discussion are aware of that and doing it for that reason?
- Mark Forman
Mark, heh :)
- directeur
Touche! is la francais,non?
- Mark Forman
Oui touché! :) (though I'm not french neither) :)
- directeur
Farber is on the case ...
- Oldengrey (Jay)
Directeur-franc-fooled :D
- Mark Forman
I am not a fan of Loren's but I believe he is doing a performance more then a personal attack - both of their attention meters have gone up as a result, which is Lorens real goal/purpose (for himself obviously). I disagree with a lot of what has been said but have not wanted to bring more attention to the whole situation so have remained quiet, hoping Loren would grow tired and this would end sooner. If there are real damages here, they wont be resolved in the court of public opinion...
- Chris Heuer
With all due respect Chris, passing judgment is easy when you are not caught at the receiving end. Lets see what will happen when you are at the receiving end of something similar and scares away your sponsors. I think public opinion counts here.
- Vic Podcaster
In cases of bullying, the best remedy is one that comes from peers. People in the crowd observing have to step forward and say it is not right. Just reciting from the manuals on schoolyard bullying, which is ironic given the ages of those involved.
- Dominic Jones
from twhirl
I've met Loren several times and he's a very personable guy. I had an exchange of emails with Shel three years ago that were extremely ugly. When Loren made the first puppet video I don't think he had any idea it would take off as it did. After working in PR for so many years Shel should have know better then to write that blog post. Shel needs to contact Loren and ask to be interviewed by his namesake puppet so he can laugh at himself and we can see that he isn't such a bad guy after all.
- paul mooney
As an interesting side-note, before the puppet I had no idea who Shel was. Since then I've added his RSS feed. I'm having trouble that believing this publicity has been bad for his site's pageviews.
- Andrew
You can't use Qik in the Oval Office but you can Twitter. How do I know that? Because today Congressman John Culberson met with the President and he said the Secret Service wouldn't let him do live video but he did Twitter from there.
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Oddly enough, xSk8rB0i899x
- Mark Trapp
thats a security breach - but trust me the NSA is tracking that twit !! :)-
- Peter Dawson
Heh, the Senator told me that limiting politicians to 140 characters is a good thing.
- Robert Scoble
Chris, his twitter name is @johnculberson
- Jason Shultz
@Mark quality response!!
- Joe Dawson
Why do I find it hard to believe that the president who touts using "the Google" and the "Internets" uses Twitter? Lord knows, McCain has yet to master Windows solitaire.
- Chris Reed
I wonder if Obama will tweet from the Oval Office
- Mike Hussein Cohen
unfortunately you can't take pictures inside the West Wing either - WH press room is ok, Rose Garden is ok but not in
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Following. - Holy moly, he just followed me back (probably auto...).
- Vince DeGeorge
Picture the monkey in office Twittering launch codes... "Twitter is over capacity. Too many tweets! Please wait a moment and try to invade Iran again".
- Andrew Smith
I follow him also - Twitter name - #johnculberson
- Craig Thomler
Culberson was by far the best conversation of the day. He clearly loves his job and wants new technology to do it better, even if he has to learn. Amazing, amazing guy. Can't wait for his Town Hall tomorrow!
- Andrew Feinberg
wow, you guys had FUN!! so jealous... twitter in the white house holy cow! McCain is soo screwed!
- Susan Beebe
So Scoble is the Maxwell Smart of tech?
- Mark Forman
surprised they didn't just put a jammer on the the area
- clarke thomas
I'm sure we'll be able to sum up all the positive things the Bush administration accomplished in less than 140 characters.
- Kevin Shannon
About to find the John Culberson Twitter account now. Wonder what he's saying about the Scoble effect. :)
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
very cool -- like what i see... following Culberson now.
- Andy Sternberg
+1 Kevin Shannon.
- Mohamed J
very interesting to see that Culberson also follows you back- almost immediately unlike some of the other politicos mentioned in yesterday's blog post.
- Nathan Eckenrode
John Culbertson followed me back immediately and then we even tweeted. I am still unsure about the other two mentioned. I can't seem to find the rep from OH and the rep from AZ (I think) his tweets have the feel of a staffer. Bears another look today though. By far the best thread yesterday!
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I had a back and forth with Congressman Culberson last night on gas prices on Twitter; pretty amazing, really.
- Lee Stranahan
from Alert Thingy
I got an immediate followback as well-- Lee, great to hear he is genuinely on the service.
- Doug Haslam
from twhirl
Rep. Culberson and I don't agree politically, but it was civil and it was a real conversation - a couple of people DMd me and said 'wow! this is cool!'. Tim Ryan is a Congressman, also on Twitter - but he follows nobody.
- Lee Stranahan
from Alert Thingy
I disagree with just about all of his politics, but I love his twitter gumption. :) Go Culbertson!
- Jarrod Morgenstern
Scoblizing The White House?:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
Almost Edible Photo: Maple Bacon Donut - http://www.aldenteblog.com/2008...
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A Heart Attack waiting to happen. :)
- Franklin Pettit
Krispy Kreme's are the best.
- Franklin Pettit
Lunch time!
- Mitchell Tsai
I'm about to puke.
- Mike Fruchter
gross!!
- Susan Beebe
@Mike - LOL
- Franklin Pettit
That is just nasty....
- LiquidLag
the best argument for nanny state-ism I've ever seen
- Duncan Riley
Luther Burger! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... I can't remember where, but there was a place that served deep fried Luther Burgers. I think it was a stand at a fair or something.
- donato
from twhirl
Corvida-yeah saw Anthony Bourdain scarf one of these at Voodoo.
- Mark Forman
This is almost as awesome as Chicken Fried Bacon.
- Mike Doeff
Where's the "ewww" link?
- Yolanda
Awful thought.
- Russellreno
I think I'm having a heart attack just looking at that thing.
- Lindsay
Oh come on, you people have no sense of adventure! I bet it's delicious.
- Mark Trapp
That looks so very tasty and so very much on the list of things my docs forbid me to consume. :)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
mmmm, bacon. Right now this post is directly below an "Obesity & Overweigght Trends" map of the U.S. post. Heehehee.
- lisa-k
Dude, where's the egg?
- Bwana ☠
Gotta be a Tim Horton creation, right? Wonder if there is a TimBits version?
- Tom Stitt
The new FriendFeed office
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Sure, go ahead. Make us all jealous.
- Louis Gray
people no longer sit directly across from each other?
- Zach Landes
Nice to see pool table maintained the box logo theme from yesterday :D
- Mark Forman
Room to grow...nice. Congrats on the move, and good luck over there!
- Jim Stanger
What is the square footage?
- Caleb Elston
Where's my desk? ;)
- xero
xero... Didn't you see it stacked against the far wall? It's the one right under the 63 other empty desks...
- Ross Miller
Ok, I'm jalous. Now what? :)
- directeur
way to go guys, onwards and upwards! good luck! you haven't worked at a real startup unless there is a foozball table or a pool table. looks like you are legit :)
- Ivan Stegic
a malmo chair from ikea! the very same colour as mine!
- Giovanni De Stefano
I like that office, I wish mine was that nice!!
- Paul
I want a job ;-0~
- Chris Spencer
It seems you bought more tables and chairs to hire more hackers. I like how open your office is.
- seman
We actually didn't buy any tables or chairs - they were left here by the last company. We have a table/chair graveyard in the back as a consequence :)
- Bret Taylor
It looks exactly the same as the old office...
- Jini
Niiice..
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
Spacious and Neat.. I like!
- Winston Teo
hey where's the ping pong table? - i like the *blue* pool table, matches blue FF logo colors!
- Susan Beebe
Are you looking for a 44 year-old telecommuting intern by any chance?
- Noah Carter
nice
- Joshua Smith
from twhirl
what, no foosball?
- Jeremy Toeman
i want air hockey! can anyone second this? Still, without walls it's gotta get pretty loud. No privacy...
- Jacob Nahin
Jim, does this one have a massage room?
- Anne Bouey
When will you be hosting "Early Adopter Weekend?" ;-)
- Noah Carter
به این میگن آفیس2!!!
- Business Blogger 【ツ】™
and that's office 2.0!!!
- Business Blogger 【ツ】™
ok Air hockey with the Robotic arm :)-
- Peter Dawson
Drool
- Benjamin Golub
Sweet, very sweet. Pool is great, but I like office table tennis better.
- Phil Glockner
pretty nice digs, much nicer than any where I have worked
- Rajiv Doshi
blue felt. Oh man. That is so the way to go. Nice!
- felix
Very nice! :)
- TommasoSorchiotti
from twhirl
pretty nice...
- Sarath
The red chair is still my favorite, but it looks like I have more seats to try out.
- Amit Patel
On first thought - great Place! I like the open air about it... but on second thought I don't think I can work in such an open space. I just need my personal space.
- Parth Awasthi
Open enough, I like it ;)
- Chris Qie
Good Luck in the new space!
- Charlie Anzman
no way! cool.
- john conroy
Where's the beer fridge?
- Joe Dawson
Well done. Drywall is so passe'.
- MLx
Looks like a University College Student Union Building....
- David W
It's only the start for this great company!!
- Alex Hammer
Looks like your short a few balls.
- SteVe C
What monitors do you guys use?
- Bartek Ciszkowski
sweet, but I'd put those pool cues in a cue holder or they will bend stored leaning against a wall...causing bad shots. also sunlight on pool table will cause fading, but you probably will just get a new table eventually w/ all the success! :)
- Pokai
sacrilege to say I think it looks pretty ugly?
- Adam
Where is Yodo?
- Sudha Jamthe
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