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Benjamin Golub
Announcing FF To Go (a mobile FriendFeed) http://www.fftogo.com/ Read more from @louisgray here: http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Works like a charm on IE/WM5. Well done! - Thomas Brox Røst
You did it it again! You are on fire! - Phil G
Many. many thanks. I am glad to be able to update my mobile FF rant. Now there IS a better way :) - Colin Walker
Bump for the good times - Jesse Stay
Digging deep, Krynsky. Nice - Josh Haley
Krynsky? - Jesse Stay
I'm here. - Mark Krynsky
Of note, this was well before Ben joined FF. - Louis Gray
Josh...that's what she said.... - Mark Krynsky
I was just about to write "wow this is *old*" but really it wasn't that long ago. A lot has happened in the last 1.5 years - Benjamin Golub
You can say that again. 1 month on the web = 7 months IRL - Jorge Escobar
Love it! - Kevin Fox
Oh snap, that was Jesse. Ooops! Thanks Jesse! And all props to B-GLOB! - Josh Haley
Ross Miller
Google FAIL
0.jpe
Seriously? - Ross Miller from email
Just re-created that one. Weird. - Hutch Carpenter
I get a different answer: three different blocks of results, the first for Ross Miller and Ross J. Miller, the second block for Danny Tarkanian, and then a third block for hits of Miller on the web, including rossmiller.net. It looks like Ross Miller and Danny Tarkanian are closely related terms in Google's mind, I suppose because of the Nevada secretary of state election? - ana
I guess you're just not interesting enough to the Google :) - Paul Buchheit
That is the exact opposite of a vanity search, no? - Cyndy
Is there a relation between the two names? - Philipp Lenssen
Odd. I'll invite some colleagues to dig into this. EDITED TO ADD: Ah ha, I think I found out what may be triggering this situation. Do a search on the two names, and you'll see that there was a big (political) race between -- you guessed it -- Ross Miller and Danny Tarkanian. And, contrary to the screenshot above, I'm unable to replicate a search results page without [ross miller] results at the top. Hmm. - Adam Lasnik
I did cut out the two top results to make it more compact... which is why it says "See result for:" instead of "Did you mean:"... That said... I still don't want to see results for Danny Terkanian when I search for my name... Just seems kind of weird... Even if he did run against that other *me* in Nevada... - Ross Miller
Ross, I'll mention this to folks here, but Google returns Ross Miller's Nevada Sec. of State website at #1, and our algorithms currently think that people interested in Ross Miller might also be interested in Danny Tarkanian. If you're not named Ross Miller, this would be a pretty helpful set of search results. :) - Matt Cutts
Richard
64% of the top 25 domains are controlled by 6 corporations - http://www.seomoz.org/blog...
well, I don't *like* this, but it's interesting! - Marshall Kirkpatrick
Wow.. that is VERY interesting! - Eric Hamilton
The 'content/text' statistic is interesting. You hear a lot about 'universal search' but it's really all still text based. - AJ Kohn
Wow, great article. - Aaron Myers
Ole Begemann
Just added a ton of imaginary friends. This is a great feature.
What happens when the real person joins Friendfeed? Are you alerted? - Matt Harwood
Matt, I'm interested in the answer to that as well. - Phil G
You aren't. You just start seeing duplication. - Akiva Moskovitz
Matt, what happens when you subscribe to their new FF account you begin to see dupes from them and their imaginary account in your FF stream. At that point you just drop the imaginary account and keep on with their actual account. Personally I think it would be better if FF could auto detect when they join and simply replace the imaginary account for you. - Thomas Hawk
Matt, I wonder the same thing. And yes, imaginary friends are an awesome feature. - ha3rvey (doesn't dance)
...aside from the great information and commentary from all of you, the imaginary friends aspect of FF is the killer aspect for me as I am such flickr addict. - JA Castillo
Thomas and Akiva, so unless you explicitly know that the person has joined Friendfeed, and then add them, you continue to see the imaginary stream, and thus none of the FriendFeed shared posts? I think FF definately needs an auto check system for this somewhere... - Matt Harwood
Great question. Looks like a lot of people I know have yet to join, so I need to just imagine they have. =D - jerry
I just love the name. - Eric Florenzano
I noticed that, after importing my Gmail contacts, FF gave me the option to store the addresses of all friends who aren't on FF yet. So I'll be notified when they sign up. It would be great if FF could make the discovery of friends' profiles all over the web easier, too. I might have a contact on Flickr but no idea where else on the web they are active. When I add them as imaginary friend I'd like to enter their email and then have FF discover all their other accounts for me. - Ole Begemann
...it would be great if FF could import all (or any you choose) of your flickr contacts as a batch. Setting up individual imaginary friends gets tedious after a bit. - JA Castillo
"...it would be great if FF could import all (or any you choose) of your flickr contacts as a batch." Now THAT would be slick. I'd love that. - Thomas Hawk
JA & Thomas: Agreed. Unfortunately, the FF API does not support adding friends (imaginary or not), so this cannot be done by third partys devs at the moment. - Ole Begemann
JA Castillo: The best would be if FF used Google's Social Graph API--that way they could import all your friends from all services which support open DataPortability standards (Twitter, Digg, Pownce, etc.) - Eric Florenzano
I'd really like it if FF could work out if my contacts/friends/followees on other services have an account, and import them, and if they don't have FF, make them imaginary friends... - Fearghas
I haven't set up an imaginary friend yet, but it is definitely a cool feature - Shey, Jamaican of FF
My imaginary friend's name is Mr Wiggles and he lives in the closet under the stairs. - Capn' One Eye - adrift
I have to agree. You can also use it to aggregate people from a team as well . . . much like those planet feed sites. - Lyndon Washington
@ Eric Florenzano - now that would be some goodness right there! - JA Castillo
@Geoff Longman: ha. - edythe
Thomas Hawk
just loved mashups jay z and the verve bittersweet dirt off your shou... http://hypem.com/track/550919
That is freakin' awesome! - Aaron Schaub
If you want to see Hype Machine as a supported service on FF (without having to route through Twitter), please leave a comment here... http://groups.google.com/group... - Mike Doeff
Textbook example of how to make a great mashup: two songs, both good, put together cleverly, to make something more than the sum of its parts- job done! - Iain Baker
That's a great mashup- if you want more check out the Best of Bootie collection; my favourite is: http://tinyurl.com/5qq6m3 - Fearghas
Chris Nixon
Phil G
16-Year Old Boy Isolates Microbe That Eats Plastic, Potentially Saves Earth - http://www.neatorama.com/2008...
yum! - Susan Beebe
pretty cool. that plastic island just sickens me. - Mathew A. Koeneker from fftogo
Actually, the ocean 'dead zones' frighten me a lot more than the plastic island. But yeah, it's depressing to think there is a partially-submerged plastic mass the size of Texas out there in the Pacific. - Phil G
engtech
Using Twitter to Friend Feed Importer (version: 0.0.1) - http://InternetDuctTape.com/tools...
Twitter to Friend Feed Importer finds all of your Tweeps on Friend Feed and subscribes them. - engtech
that sounds really useful. when will it be available? i cant see it on your site ...via AlertThingy - David Adam
I should have it released in the next hour or two - engtech
You are a coding machine! - Phil Ashman
haven't been able to get it to work. it installs fine, but when i open the "friend feed importer console", after a few seconds it displays a bunch of errors ...via AlertThingy - David Adam
I'll try installing it on a clean machine and see what happens... I might have a missing dependency - engtech
Ah, it breaks on machines that don't have the HOME environment variable set. I'll release a fix. - engtech
w00t it works :) Installed fine, and is currently doing its thing. Thanks a bunch I was just thinking the other day how useful a tool like this would be. Whats it mean when it says "Can't find social graph" though? ...via AlertThingy - David Adam
I put more discussion about the social graph stuff in the blog post. I'm using XFN/FOAF stuff to find the connections between people... doesn't always work well. - engtech
it is running now but is there a way to produce a simple output instead of subscribing? I am now subsribing to some people I really did not want to subscribe to. ;) or better, if that thing could just produce two lists (twitter friend / friend feed twitter list) i could do a very neat comparison in excel myself. ;) - Nicole Simon
hm okay. ran it but have no idea if it aborted or not, but given the amount of friends i haev in both, it seems like it. a pause button at the end might be a good idea. :) waiting for the next version. ;) - Nicole Simon
superb! If only it was a web service.... - zeroinfluencer
I think that would yield more churn than I'd want to handle. I'll have a smaller, more intimate list on FF than Twitter. The services aren't equivalent. - Chris Baskind
Fa La La La Lindsay
LOL - That's insane!! - Bwana ☠
Yikes. - Thomas Hawk
one option's missing: "none of these" - Benedikt Koehler
After a certain number of buttons, it'd be better to turn those into a radio-button control. - Morton Fox
I agree with Dave. Or maybe a WTH? button. - Yolanda
WTF! - israel
Bummer if you click on the 'never ask me again' box and choose the wrong answer - Sally Church
What program is giving you that? Is the rest of its UI as crazy? - Kenneth LeFebvre
I actually think it's not so bad. I love options (as long as I know what each option do) - Panu Tangchalermkul
I didn't get this dialog, just found a screenshot on the link. Curious to know the source myself. - Fa La La La Lindsay
What does "Yes to All" do? - Seth
where's the manual? - Susan Beebe
Hahaha, I agree with a "WTH?" button! That's hilarious! - Bob
Never ask me again!! - Chrimmus Tad
I bought a PC, now what? - Dobromir Hadzhiev from twhirl
It looks like WinSCP's dialog. It's not a Windows OS dialog... I know we have some doozies, but give credit where credit's due...B-). - Shawn L. Morrissey
This is definately WinSCP, and I for one appreciate all the options. Especially the last 2, ever tried syncronising 2 remote FTP folders? - Robert from twhirl
I am with @Tad make sure you select to Never ask me again!!! - Joe Dawson
I like WinSCP. I think that all those buttons are a good idea as they give you a lot of control. It is a bit of a crazy user interface, but WinSCP is built for those that can handle a slightly difficult UI, IMHO. If you don't like it, you don't have to use it. There's always FileZilla if you find WinSCP not suited to your tastes. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Chris Wetherell
Jack of Twitter talks about outages... - http://blog.twitter.com/2008...
Rough week for Twitter. I've watched dozens of new, popular, and free web services experience scaling difficulties. I'm always saddened by knee-jerk responses of technologists who blithely assert "I guess they don't test their software" during outages. Testing is only a part of prevention and is always a moving target. Diagnosis and response can sometimes take hours/days/weeks/months depending on the problem or the system. Money or funding doesn't automatically translate into an ideal production, staging, and analytic environment overnight (especially if growing by millions) and NO service or platform is immune. None! Not One. Happens within Google all the time. (You might not know that the Reader team has been sleepless this week in attempts to keep the service running.) I figure those of us who can help out with coding or sysadmin work to services we love probably should offer our efforts pro bono. Might not be able to help - but might as well offer. That is, if we care about them... - Chris Wetherell
Great comments, Chris. People should know about how understaffed the Reader team is versus what we expect from it. - Louis Gray
@chris as for "noBODY IS PERFECT" - i want to point you to telco services, they are might be ugly but _reliable_. - A.T.
@silpol It is much easier to be reliable when you don't innovate :) - Christopher Sacca
@sacca to me, innovation without reliabilty coming-second-but-coming looks cheaper than reliabilty without innovation ;) - A.T.
Well, bless the Reader team, then. I'm hopelessly addicted. - Chris Baskind
@silpol - I think the Faustian bargain for using these services *must* be that you accept a little down time or lag once in a while, they are on the bleeding edge after all. Don't get me wrong I love a piece of software or hardware that feels solid state but it's not the number one concern for any start-up. Any company worth a damn is concerned however, that if they don't keep their users happy that there might not be a tomorrow, which is more than one can say for telcos. - Jason Shellen
Chris, thank you for adding some much needed perspective to this. I'm so sick of the Twitter bashing. - Mike Doeff
Chris, thanks for reminding me what it's like to work on these services. It is a pressure cooker and I can't imagine what that's like. Of course my own site is having its own issues, so I have a little taste trying to keep everything working. Thanks for Google Reader and thanks to the Twitter team for everything it's done. I'm freaking addicted to both, so both teams are doing something right. - Robert Scoble
There's a real catch 22. If you spend tons of time at the beginning of development on making a super-scalable product in a fast-paced market, you may miss the boat. However, if you don't, later you'll run into scalability issues and it's much harder to rearchitect on the fly. Not really sure what the answer is here...maybe quantum computing :) - Eric Florenzano
Great stuff, Chris, I was beginning to think I was the only one who felt deeply uneasy about the Twit-out. - Iain Baker
I used Twitter during the Twit-out, and I used the Hide function every time Twit-out came up from the participants. It's one thing to use a service for what it was intended, and another to pour salt in another's wounds to show how you don't think you need it as much as you might have before. Also, such wide discussion of the activity seemed overly self-congratulatory to me. - Louis Gray
@shellen i understand your logic but don't buy it. in my opinion, twitter _is_ too long in kindergaten and _too_ repetitive in fails. they could open door for paid service for those looking reliabilty at low price, leaving masochists with all-time-failing-but-free level... - A.T.
@Chris - They had already received $5.4M in venture capital. Why should we offer services for free? And they just received $15M more tonight according to GigaOM. if anything, we should volunteer our time to make something else better that's being bootstrapped instead of something that has received millions in venture capital. $20M buys a LOT of hardware and pays a lot of salaries. - Erica Douglass
So in other words, you build a Rube Goldberg machine, and then complain it's hard to figure out why it doesn't work? It's been a year. They first ran into scaling problems at SXSW 2007. They aren't working on the next NYSE in terms of data processing and scaling. I've been one of their biggest defenders. But I'm no longer convinced they really want to listen about solutions. - Cyndy
The graph in that blog post looks more like a fundamental flaw than soemthing that can be fixed easily. Maybe this is proof that RoR isn't a good choice for a platform... - Alexander Falk from twhirl
Hmm..could news of the 3rd round funding have reversed the feelings of generosity and forgiveness we were feeling towards Twitter? Still against the twit-out. - Kamath (नमः) from twhirl
The key fact is that Jack *talked* about them. That's all I ask. - Ontario Emperor
@silpol - Your assertion about telcos requires more nuance. AT&T, Vonage, and Skype (first off the top of my head) have had major outages in their data services. And phone services (including a massive transition from analog to digital in the PSTN) have had roughly 80 years to work on scaling issues during which there has been significant downtime. Also, I'm not sure what you mean about telcos being "ugly." Are you talking about Bell Labs' DS0 digital signal? Marketing? Pulse dialing? SS7? - Chris Wetherell
@Cyndy - Your opinion about Twitter's system ("Rube Goldberg") sounds definitive. Have you seen their code? Their network topology? Their database schema? Do you know their message volume? What's your opinion about their message queue solution? Do you know more technical information about Twitter than the platform they've (reportedly) chosen for their web service? I'm suspicious, hopefully understandably. Also, Gmail and Google Reader have had big outages...do you also think they are Rube Goldberg machines? - Chris Wetherell
@Erica - Because (as I mentioned above) funding doesn't automatically translate into an ideal production, staging, or analytic environment overnight (esp. if growing by millions). Also, hiring and getting people up to speed are potentially high-latency tasks as new companies don't usually have built-out HR depts. So, in the meantime, I like the idea of offering help to stuff we love and... more... - Chris Wetherell
Too bad Louis. You missed the entire point of the Twit-Out as did most of the web. That's ok though, we all love Twitter the same. - Bwana ☠
Never underestimate the value of hiring someone who does solely community outreach and customer/client relations. Twitter would benefit immensely with a person in that position, even if they aren't doing a line of code. - Mark Trapp
Did they already manage to relaunch without Ruby on Rails, which seems to be a big part of their scaling issues? http://www.radicalbehavior.com/5-quest... - Philipp Lenssen
Ruby on Rails is only part of the infrastructure, as Ev has mentioned before. It's not as simple as just rewriting that part. But still, they've been working on this for what a year or so now? - Ryan W
I think Trapp has a great point as do Bwana, Scoble, Gray, and Wetherell. Scaling will always be an issue whenever a "widget" takes off whatever it is. Support for said "widget" is then necesssary, as well as prompt communication of c/s issues. Many times having a "non-techie" be the c/s person helps provide a different insight as to where the current user as well as the potential user... more... - Mathew A. Koeneker
@phillipp and @ryanw - Alex Payne from Twitter has a little more info about these questions in a post about their architecture: http://dev.twitter.com/2008... - Chris Wetherell
Morgan
let's trade toluu feeds - what's yours? - http://www.toluu.com/morgan
mine's the link.. - Morgan from twhirl
toluu.com/calebelston - Caleb Elston
http://www.toluu.com/maveric... Thx Gadiel and Louis Gray :) - Sally Church
http://www.toluu.com/kenlefeb but I haven't figured out how to add a contact, yet. :) or, even, remove feeds from my list (like package tracking feeds that were in my OPML but you won't be interested in!) - Kenneth LeFebvre
sweet adding you all now! - Morgan from twhirl
To add someone simply visit their page, then click 'Add' below their photo. To remove a feed go to the feed page, then you can click the 'Remove' button. - Caleb Elston
any other toluu users out there add your profile here - Morgan
Louis Gray
Take FriendFeed Mobile With FF To Go - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Excellent :) Way to go Benjamin. But you know it's sad when I can remember my API key ;) - Colin Walker
And this is from my phone. - Colin Walker
@colin I remember mine too :( - acedanger from twhirl
Excellent stuff; thanks for posting this. I'm writing this comment using it right now! - Fearghas
I commented on the blog itself. Dont know why but I had a problem with disqus so I posted unverified. - Gadiel Rivera
Double-like! - Phil G
Updated my mobile FF rant and am pleased to be able to do so ;) - Colin Walker
wow, the iphone version is nice. doesn't look that much different than online. - Rob Diana
Just tried this on my Treo 700p and it seems pretty sweet. @Colin @acedanger - I have mine memorized too....it is sad. - elroy
It even works on a Blackberry - that is way cool @bgolub - Sally Church
Hmm...it doesn't pull up on my iPhone like the picture...shows full-size and the text is too small. - Paul Arterburn
beautiful job. writing this from my treo 700wx, the world's worst cell phone. if it works here it will work for anyone. thank you for developing this. - Michael Pardee
So sweet. Working great on my Palm Centro! Good job folks! - Dan Nimtz from twhirl
@JP try again? I just had some errors that I fixed - Benjamin Golub
tried and get "whoops something went wrong" when I try to comment. - Thomas Hawk
Sweet, gotta try it at lunch, my colleagues won't be happy with me though. - Caleb Elston
Very nicely done. That is just what I was looking for in a mobile version of FF! - Scott Jarkoff
Doesn't work on my Helio Ocean - RAPatton
I look forward to trying this on my iPod..as soon as I can find a wireless connection. - Mike Lewis
Not working for me :( Just to be specific, when I put in my username and key and click "Login" it just goes back to the sign in screen. I've tried several times. - Vince DeGeorge
Sigh; Google App Engine has for some reason stopped sending authorization headers. I'm looking into it. - Benjamin Golub
Not working for me either. Can't log in. - Morton Fox
Regular Friendfeed works great on my iPod. - RAPatton
I'll have to try this (1st gen Moto Q with Windows Mobile 5 and IE4) - Ontario Emperor
I love all the rapid innovation that's going on here! Nice job Benjamin :) - Aviv
Looks very nice on the iPhone, but where is the search functionality? Thanks for your time and hard work developing a great app Benjamin. - James
It seems to work ok on my SE P1i, but I dont really like this remote key thing... - Fredrik Wennberg from fftogo
unless you have Verizon for your carrier. Brightkite won't work with Verizon either (in my experience) - Greg Hollingsworth from twhirl
Atleast the FriendFeed remote key is easy to remember. Very "human like". I already memorized mine by the third time I had to punch it in - Bartek Ciszkowski
Twitter doesn't work (properly) with Verizon, either. I never get device updates. - Steve Lynch from Alert Thingy
funny twitter works for me fine on my verizon phone but not at all on my N75 w/ATT - Morgan from twhirl
Iv'e got the same problem as Vince DeGeorge on WM6 - rodmitch
testing FriendFeed for mobile right now. pretty neat! thanks @louisgray - Myriam from fftogo
Thomas Hawk
Yet Another 16 Ways to Make FriendFeed Even Better List, Whew! - http://thomashawk.com/2008...
The one thing that I think would massively improve FF is the duplication of items; say once from a blog and then again from GReader. If they can crack that, well I'd be a happy bunny! - Fearghas
One major concern is whether there really needs to be a messaging feature. There are messaging systems already like Twitter or even that slow thing called email. - Rob Diana
I'm not so sure about that Fearghas. I'd agree, but only if the post didn't have comments. Lets say someone blogged about something and I hid that. Someone else might blog it and it might have a great conversation attached to it that I'd miss. This would be a good feature but I'd like to filter it by with/without comments. - Thomas Hawk
Thomas you're awesome, great post - Shey, Jamaican of FF
Thomas- yes that's a good point. Now if it could combine them together... - Fearghas
good stuff man - Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Thomas: I think you can filter unless comments are made. @louisgray blogged about it somewhere. - Sally Church from Alert Thingy
Friendfeed friendly post : ) Heheh... Congrats Thomas! - Erhan Erdogan
A way to separate spheres of interest - Right now I've only invited friends to subscribe to me who want to talk about social networking & geeky stuff. If I pursue friends to talk about health & philosophy, for instance, wouldn't they find my current comments irrelevant and want to shun me? - Mark Arend
Good point Mark, I've thought about that with regards to DMU, a group where I post on Flickr. That place is *way* too crazy of a place -- and if I posted here like I post in there, all but about 20 people would probably hide me. Maybe the thing to do there is to create two FF accounts. Regular Thomas Hawk and Crazy Thomas Hawk for instance. - Thomas Hawk
I agree with everything except the direct messages. About the duplication of items, maybe they could be clustered together but indicating which have comments, so we can participate in them. Another thing I would like is to embed songs from Songza or similar services. That would be cool. ;) - Alejandro
Alejandro - I like that idea. I'd really like to perma-link to those "clusters" as well. Since my blog is currently on Tumblr, I link to the blog post when it appears on FriendFeed to allow for comments. If I could link to a cluster, that'd be even better. - Jordan Hofker
@Sally, you can filter for posts that only contain likes or comments. It's here: http://tinyurl.com/6h37zl - Louis Gray
Thomas - #8 is what I'm looking for. I'd *love* to be able to invite someone to "take over" their current imaginary version. It seems like something that would really increase FF users. - Jordan Hofker
The ability to make your imaginary friends private would also be good. I created two for my children (so I could see their activity on other sites) and people started subscribing to them. Not what I wanted. - TranceMist
@TranceMist - your imaginary friends aren't private?? I could swear mine are... @Thomas oh dear, talk about fragmentation! Making a split personality in FF?? I wouldn't want to have to create a FF account for my separate interests... Might work for some services but not for twitter or my blog where I post whatever I like. It would be a lot more of a burden on users to insist on that. Give us filters instead so people can just not see the stuff from you they don't like and keep the rest. - Fa La La La Lindsay
@Fearghas - regarding the duplicate links showing up in your FriendFeed stream. Check out Bret Taylor's post on this and see what you think. http://tinyurl.com/6zw4rp - Hutch Carpenter
Added a link to yours from mine! That's 32 now team FriendFeed - I hope you are listening. - Jeremy Toeman
Gadiel Rivera
Really liking Toluu to find new Blogs, love the preview it gives you of the latest posts before you actually subscribe. Anyone wants an Invite?
Yes, please pilgrim_five@mac.com - Pilgrim Five
Could you throw one in my direction - ian@ianbetteridge.co.uk? - Ian Betteridge
Yes please - churchsg@gmail.com - Sally Church from Alert Thingy
love it if you could chuck one at me please: laurence.timms@gmail thx - laurence timms from twhirl
And when Gadiel runs out, I have dozens more. E-mail is louisgray@mac.com. I passed out quite a few yesterday. - Louis Gray
I have a few too. david@fineartdavid.com - David Owens
I'm on the waiting list for an invite, already, but if you've still got extras to pass out, I'd love one. Thanks! kenneth@lefebvre.us - Kenneth LeFebvre
Im out of my 3 invites let me know when you get them. :) - Gadiel Rivera
Thanks! Got it, Gadiel! - Kenneth LeFebvre
Given Gadiel's note, I assume all of the above have invites. Send me a note if you need one, and I'll take care of the rest. - Louis Gray
Glad to hear you like our feed preview, we actually just added YouTube support yesterday, so if a feed has an embedded YouTube video you can play it right from Toluu. - Caleb Elston
Not to mention that Caleb does a FANTASTIC job of making updates and responding to requests -- and since he's right above my comment, he makes it easy to communicate directly with him. Consider me a fan of the service and I believe, more importantly, the man behind the scenes. - Vince DeGeorge
I think exactly like Vince :). - Gadiel Rivera
yes, please send me an invite to atveit@gmail.com - Amund Tveit
Hey Caleb, any thoughts on this: http://twurl.nl/a4nulr ? - Mark Trapp
Gah, my Google Reader just filled up again with new feeds :) - Sally Church from Alert Thingy
Vince, thanks for the kind words, I do my best to keep up with everyones requests and questions. It is because of all of you that Toluu is growing and becoming more and more useful everyday. It would be an empty shell without you all. - Caleb Elston
I have been slowly adding feeds and so far I'm enjoying the service. You all should join us here and share what you read with us, if you need any invite just ask here. - Gadiel Rivera
Thanks for the invite! - Ian Betteridge
I'd love an invite - thanks! - Daniel Martin
Daniel have you been sent an invite yet? - Caleb Elston
Caleb: I need more invites to dilute the tech geeks with scientists pls :) - Sally Church from Alert Thingy
Sally, I just added a bunch of new invites to your account, I can't wait to see what kind of amazing science blogs your friends follow. It is super cool getting recommendations about a subject you are interested in, but have no domain expertise in. - Caleb Elston
Caleb: Crumbs one has signed up already. It's a neat tool, well done. - Sally Church
Sally: Checking out some of your feeds as well as Crumbs. We are still in the very early days of Toluu, we think there are so many opportunities to make it even more useful and easy to use. - Caleb Elston
Caleb: Wait unti more scientists join and drown out the tech geek noise ;) - Sally Church from Alert Thingy
Sally: Bring em on! I want to learn about black holes and folding space from a great blogger who makes it interesting. - Caleb Elston
Yes, please send invite to j.d.wegner@gmail.com. Thanks! - http://friendfeed.com/jdwegner - J.D. Wegner
JD: Sent! - Caleb Elston
Louis Gray
Take FriendFeed Mobile With FF To Go - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Benjamin just mentioned he's seeing some downtime. Hopefully it didn't get Twitterized. - Louis Gray
@bart I set it up on the blackberry browser and it worked just fine. Did nt try it on my Opera browser - Jon Erickson from twhirl
@Jon Yah, creator said it's going up/down at the moment. Public listing now works in Opera but not my "Friends" page. In time :) - Bartek Ciszkowski
It won't let me login on my BlackBerry 8130, and it's also giving me a 500 error. :( - Zach Flauaus
it's not working on my Dash WiMo 6.1 - Alex Sauceda from twhirl
Steve Rubel
57 Habits of Highly Effective Gmail Users | College Degrees - http://www.collegedegrees.com/blog...
Gotta read these! - Steve Rubel
Tris Hussey
Twitter’s problems, Pownce’s gain or FriendFeed’s opportunity? - http://feeds.b5media.com/~r...
neither, until they get SMS intergrated. - rob from twhirl
And then there's tumblr. :-) I'm still working out how all of these pieces fit together best for me. I'm leaning towards tumblr as my private version of FF. Then again, just how many of these tools do I really need? :-) - Joanmarie
Rob you're right without SMS, FF is lacking. Joanmarie that is the other part of this. These are tools. Just tools. So, which tool works best for you and does what YOU want it to do? - Tris Hussey
joanmarie: tumblr is more of an egoblog for me, easy to post stuff I like, not caring if anyone notices. - rob from twhirl
I think that if FF gets bigger, then Pownce can still benefit due to files/links/events, so it's not mutually exclusive there, but Twitter can only lose. - Eric Florenzano
Rob: Exactly. That's what I meant by "private version of FF". :-) "Egoblog" is much more clear and concise. Thanks! Tris: I have no clue. But I'm having fun working it out. - Joanmarie
I think it's going to be a long time until Pownce or Twitter takes the place of FF. I just don't think of FF as the same. FF is more like the bookshelf than the book. - Clay Newton
Today proves FriendFeed's opportunity! I haven't seen much increase in Pownce traffic; whereas FriendFeed traffic is going up! - Susan Beebe
definitely FF. But I agree with rob: we need SMS integration in FF before it can totally replace Twitter - Alexander Falk
FriendFeed activity is hot. These comments are amazing. But ... checking if this chatter also brought you to read my post. - Tris Hussey
FriendFeed's opportunity for sure. I used Pownce for a while, but it just died. There used to be posts every 5-15 minutes. Now I'll be lucky if a page doesn't have a post from yesterday. - Zach Flauaus
FF is great, but the lack of serious mobile connectivity, beit SMS or a native app etc just kills it for me the moment I'm away from a computer; why I still end up using Twitter. If, and it's a big if, FF can get some serious IM/SMS/m.ff access going, then they can capitalise, I think. - Fearghas
First time reader Tris, so you can count at least 1 hit produced by FF. I think this quote hit how i feel about FF right on the head "the glue that might stick it all together." Not so much a replacement as it is a facilitator for people on social networks. Thanks for the interesting analysis. - Geoff Schultz
Good points, however, you'd really need a lot of people to join FriendFeed in order to make the actual microblogging platform irrelevant. - Mark Dykeman
Agreed with Fearghas. The mobile integration still keeps me Twittering. - Jared Smith from Alert Thingy
Louis Gray
16 Simple Ways to Improve FriendFeed - http://www.livedigitally.com/2008...
Good list. But auto-tinyurl needs to be an option, not automatic. - Lon from twhirl
lots of good ideas on the list - edythe
I think this has been mentioned elsewhere, but a more interactive mobile version would be nice. - Aaron Schaub
I want a Blackberry app - Kevin Bondelli from bTT
btw, on the tinyurl: http://ffapps.com/tinyurl/ - Aviv
Once FF3 rc1 is supported by Greasemonkey, that will be very handy. Thanks Aviv! - Jordan Hofker
Kevin Bondelli - try out MojiPage ==> http://sb.mojipage.com - works great on my Blackberry Curve. See this morning's discussion on this here: http://friendfeed.com/e... - Susan Beebe
Susan, just set it up. Thanks. - Kevin Bondelli from bTT
Great! glad to see you set up sb.mojipage.com for your mobile FriendFeed access. - Susan Beebe
Christopher Sacca
mental_floss Blog » He Took a Polaroid Every Day, Until the Day He Died - http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs...
mental_floss Blog » He Took a Polaroid Every Day, Until the Day He Died
This was so moving and cathartic. (Reposting from the FriendFeed of @kennethn) - Christopher Sacca
wow. absolutely beautiful visualization of life and death - Nancy King
incredible. - Thomas Hawk
Amazing. I admire that man. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)
This is one of those situations where I feel really bad clicking "I like this", but I want to mark my appreciation for it. Makes me feel I should be doing something more meaningful with my SX-70 that's sitting in my drawer. - Fearghas
Wow. I tried taking a picture every day for a year. Only made it 6 months. I can't imagine doing it for 18 years! That's really dedication, especially when I'm sure there were days he simply didn't feel like it because of his health. Amazing, yes. - Fa La La La Lindsay
Wow. This is really inspiring. - Ole Begemann
Incredible and inspiring. Thanks for posting this! - Jeremy Brooks
...I began my 365days on flickr 01.01.08 and thought that would be a large enough endeavor. For him to do that many years is amazing...so is his story. - JA Castillo
That is very moving. Thanks for sharing this persons story. - Geoff Schultz
Amazing. Reminds me a little of Matt Haughey's '10 Years Of My Life' project (http://www.tenyearsofmylife.com/about). It appears that Matt abandoned the project late last year. - Mike Doeff
beautiful story - sam b-r
this is one of the reasons why FF is so cool and why I like to cast a large net and add as many people as possible. I've been finding so many really interesting stories from other people on FF here lately. I probably would never have seen this story had it not been for finding it here in Sacca's feed. - Thomas Hawk
@Thomas which is why I reposted it from Ken Norton's feed. I love the diversity of posts here and some just should be seen by any many people as possible. - Christopher Sacca
Wow. This just basically makes me want to start a 365 project sooner than I planned. I am currently too busy but I'd like to take at least one pic each day, for as long as I can keep up. - Rosana Kooymans
very moving. I like the sports he watched, photography, skiing, etc. - Andrew Smith
Louis Gray
Jeremy Toeman’s LIVEdigitally » 16 Simple Ways to Improve FriendFeed - http://www.livedigitally.com/2008...
Robert Scoble
Andy Roth
I take it you're enjoying that 90mm macro lens? - Dave Roth
Once you go macro, you never go back, yo! - Andy Roth
Thomas Hawk
10 Friend Feeds Worth Following - http://thomashawk.com/2008...
Thomas, you are too kind. Thanks for the mention! - Louis Gray
Louis, you do more to help people on this site than anyone. I think that's great. - Thomas Hawk
Hey, I'm in there! Thanks :) - Shey, Jamaican of FF
Your note about adding Flickr imaginary friends reminds me of Dave Winer's FlickrFan. I've been turning on a spare Mac just to let the FlickrFan screensaver run. When people come over, they just stop and stare at it. - ha3rvey (doesn't dance)
Extremely appreciative of the mention, Thomas! Thank you! Though... um.. Matt Hardwood? ;-) - Matt Harwood
Wow I made the list! *blush* - Benjamin Golub
ha3rvey, I still need to try out Dave's FlickrFan. My problem is that it's Mac only and I only have a MacBook Pro (that I'm typing on now and that is my primary computer). For media consumption at home though I use a Vista Media Center PC and three XBox 360 extender units. I use Slickr to download all my Flickr faves on the internet and then run similar slideshows with my Media Center PC. - Thomas Hawk
Thomas, that is a great tip: to see my Flickr connections faving photographies on FF! - Jeroen De Miranda
Great post. Additionally another random source is to check the "everyone" tab occasionally - I've found more than a few interesting things that way. I also like to randomly search for topics of interest and subscribe to the posters. - Doug Brooks
Thomas, Thanks for the link to the app for importing Twitter friends into FriendFeed. FF should do this on its own, but the app provides a great service. - Gregory Pittman from twhirl
I don't see the advantage yet to viewing Flickr photos in friendfeed vs in your RSS Reader. I was already seeing what my favorite Flickr people were fav'ing by subscribing to their fav feed in Google Reader. Plus you get to see the "unsafe" photos in Google Reader too (I think). - Kevin Reed
@Doug I've found a couple folks that way - Shey, Jamaican of FF
I only have a handful of my Flickr contacts added to FF via "imaginary friends", but it's been a much better set-up than via RSS. I don't have to subscribe to both their stream and their faves; I simply get both. - JA Castillo
And the subscribers start coming; 7 so far since you posted this have subscribed to me. - Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: one more :) - Matt Harwood
Thanks for the mention! coolio! Yep, the subscriptions are on fire baby! woo hoo! <Twit-Out! FTW!> - Susan Beebe
@Kevin Reed, the design and layout of imaginary friends Flickr feeds on FF is a much cleaner, better, look than the Flickr RSS feed. Plus I can see it all here where I already am without having to go to an RSS reader. I've stopped using RSS readers entirely now. - Thomas Hawk
@Doug Brooks. That's another GREAT tip! - Thomas Hawk
Lots of useful information here! Thanks... - Simon Bisson
Thanks for the mention! I commented on your blog entry too but the Blogger comment system doesn't like me. Hope it went through. - Morton Fox
feling... shunned. :( - Jeremy Toeman
No mention here either but I'm fine with that. You see, I would never join a club that would have someone like me as a member. Heh heh heh. - Akiva Moskovitz
Just finished reading it - really great post. A few good people, and a few good ways to find more people. And a few tips to get the best out of those people. Nice one, Thomas. - Michael Randall from twhirl
@Thomas Wow, stopped using rss readers. I was wondering how to handle the balance/overlap between rss reader and friendfeed. - Kevin Reed
@ Thomas - how are you now keeping tabs with what you gathered via RSS feeds? - JA Castillo
Excellent post; really good to see so many posts explaining how to get the most out of FriendFeed- really preventing me from doing revision! - Fearghas
This is the first time I was mentioned in a top 10 list. Speechless. Thomas your involvement here will help the FF community grow. - Russellreno
Jeremy, you know I love you. That's the problem with these sorts of lists. Inevitably people get left off simply because they didn't come to mind right away. You are definitely someone worth subscribing to and I think the work that you do to introduce business to social media is invaluable! - Thomas Hawk
Agree @thomashawk @Louis Gray is the patron saint of FriendFeed - Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Michael and JA Castillo, RSS is dead to me now. Like Twitter. At some point I may need to take some of my top RSS feeds and make imaginary friends out of them, but hopefully those bloggers and news sites will just join FriendFeed instead and I can subscribe to them here. RSS was way too noisy without effective hide functionality. FF is a far better way to consume content. I'm also finding much more interesting new phtography news here like the story I just found from JA Castillo and blogged. - Thomas Hawk
Thanks for the reference, Thomas! Now I have to live up to being interesting :O! I was wondering why I was getting all those subscription notifications all of the sudden! - Fa La La La Lindsay
I follow pretty much everyone in this article already! And I try hard to follow more people than are following me. Ok, it's not that hard actually. - Phil G
You're becoming the ultimate feeder amongst my friends! - Steve Rubel
I'm still surprised by the amount of people on Twitter who haven't yet jumped on the FriendFeed bandwagon. - Eric Florenzano
BTW I would argue that Scott Beale (laughing squid) needs to be on that list as well :) http://friendfeed.com/laughin... - Doug Brooks
Doug, Scott Beale's a great guy as well and a good San Fran photog pal. - Thomas Hawk
Thanks for the mention TH. Much appreciated. - Chris Nixon
Thanks for the mention Thomas!! Appreciate it! - Bwana ☠
just looked through it and found myself. lolthxbai - kosmar
i like the point on the noise - Tyler Gillies
apparently I'm not good enough for you :-( - Duncan Riley
People have this habit of following some top users just for the heck of following and reading what they talk among themselves. I'd rather follow my friends and have a good time then follow some A listers who won't know you exist. - Palin Ningthoujam
Thanks for the great list. I really like the one about adding your twitter friends to FF. I shall be working on that. Oh well I guess I will make the list next time ;) - Admiral70
Regan Leahy
Rex Hammock
Graphic designer Paula Scher - http://rexhammock.com/post...
Fascinating; I like the evolution of the Citibank logo :) - Fearghas
Philip "dmouse" Campbell
Thomas Hawk
FriendFeed needs rich edit tools or a greasemonkey script to add rich editing into comment posts. Would be helpful for bolding, italicizing, linking, etc.
they need mobile version before anything else - Dobromir Hadzhiev from twhirl
I'd be happy if they implemented Textile or MarkDown. - Fa La La La Lindsay
yes just being able to use simple <b> <i> functionality would be nice for the time being even. - Thomas Hawk
Ooh, pretty red word thingys! ;-) - Stephen B from Alert Thingy
Oh, I don't know if I want different colors or anything. I could see FriendFeed becoming as ugly as a multi-colored chat room. - Shawn Farner
agreed re: mobile site. Reading the regular site on my iPhone is a pain in the ass - Brett Kelly
No colors; but I wouldn't mind *bold* and _italics_ - Benjamin Golub
Shawn Farmer's comment reminded me of when Comic Chat first hit IRC. It was a massacre. - ha3rvey (doesn't dance)
Just worried that FF will turn into a ICQ chatroom if there were rich text. - Andrew Dobrow
Didn't ever see Comic Chat, but I DO remember mIRC colors.. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I would be happy with line-breaks, bold, italics and url pretty links, maybe bulleted/numbered lists too. All that could be done REALLY easily with a Textile type format... - Fa La La La Lindsay
Don't you think it would be to "spammy" then? Spam links everywhere. What they really need to do first is a mobile version. - Svartling
Robert Scoble
Of course Twitter is down right before I wanted to demonstrate it and FriendFeed on stage at Media Bistro Circus.
no, twitter is up right now...no, wait I think it is down again. - Rob Diana
Of course the great thing with twitter is that sometimes it is actually down, and other times it's just Twinkle or somesuch being funky. But you just never know... - Fearghas
this is why it's hard to convince people to use it. If you can't even show it! -
If you never actually check to see if Twitter is up or down, it remains in a state of being both up and down at the same time. Call it... Twittinger's Cat. - Akiva Moskovitz
many times it goes down by just being SOOO slow you can't use it - Travis Cooper
So as long as no one looks at Twitter, then it's always working? Well I think I know what we need to do... - Fearghas
*cough*Twit-out tomorrow*cough* - Bwana ☠
Robert, you should have known better! Live and learn. - Mike Doeff
Sort of like Heisenberg meets Berners-Lee -- you can either demo Twitter or use it, but never both at the same time. - Erik Dafforn
so how do I get that tutorial if you have gone down..and why are some things I posted not into friendfeed yet? - Richard Binhammer
lol Akiva and Erik :) - Alejandro
It's a conspiracy to make you look silly! - Leif Hansen from Alert Thingy
I want my money back! Oh wait.. it's free. Never mind. - Rudy Amid from twhirl
maybe Twitter should bunk with FreindFeed... - Bryan Peters from twhirl
Until Twitter meets Viagra, I recommend a Qik video. - jcunwired
The ever dependable Twitter :D - Corvida
It always goes down right when I need it most. I feel so betrayed... - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah from Alert Thingy
i had a car like twitter once...got it free...was never dependable - John Deisher from twhirl
Twitter is teh suck right now. - Trevor Lee
show screenshots , they wont notice … - kosmar
Twitter is back up now.... - S Adler from twhirl
I spoke too soon... Twitter is still down. - S Adler from twhirl
Could everyone please log off twitter for sec? I need to send a message. - Kevin D. White
@Kevin - just use FriendFeed - Rob Diana
Helps to take screenshots of everything you plan to demo, just in case. - Brent Newhall from twhirl
Always have a backup!! I've been bitten too many times relying on live sites. Have that canned demo ready. I recommend Adobe Captivate. Anything you demonstrate with it will *always* work :) - Bwana ☠
Sorry to see this happening to Twitter and to you on-stage. Shows how handling growth is literally job #1 for a successful service after the feature set is built. - Dion Hinchcliffe from twhirl
Time to Punt without a Twitter... - JADonnelly
Starting to think about using FriendFeed instead of Twitter. Engtech's GM scripts would help a lot. http://internetducttape.com/2008... - Scott Koon
I think we just can't depend on twitter anymore - it's not getting better, it seems to be getting worse! - Michelle Murrain from Alert Thingy
I've never been a huge twitter user but I've also noticed increased downtime for it and have now started reevaluating FriendFeed and I'm much more impressed by it than my initial first look. - Paul Wade from Alert Thingy
Loic Le Meur
I need mobile friendfeed. m.friendfeed.com Bret and Paul when do we get it?
friendfeed works pretty darned good on the iPhone/iPod Touch - Chrimmus Tad
I've found that Friendfeed only half works on my mobile browser - Mel Francis
It works ok on an iPhone, but a more mobile-friendly version (like Google Reader or Twitter clients like Hahlo) would be easier and more fun to use. - Bryan Landers
I can use it with my BlackBerry browser, but limited functionality. For instance, I can't "like" anything. I also can't add friends. - ha3rvey (doesn't dance)
Loic, instead why not build a web/ mobile version of Twhirl? Or even better, make it a download for mobiles - Duncan Riley from twhirl
I agree there should be a m.friendfeed.com. But with MojiPage (http://sb.mojipage.com/u/wil1/) you can get about 3/4 of FF on your phone... mobile rendering, Like and Comment links. But still no Share Something or threaded conversations... unles I just can't figure it out. Why did FF not think to have m.FF? - Mark Arend from Alert Thingy
I use FF all the time on my iPhone. - Francine Hardaway
Duncan, we should talk about that! - Loic Le Meur
I would love to see a mobile optimized version of FF. Although FF does mostly work on an iPhone, it's not the most compelling experience. Methinks it would be a lot more user friendly if there was an actual mobile and/or iPhone version of FF available for use. - Scott Jarkoff
@BretTaylor @Paul Buchheit - Hey Loic is asking a terrific question, which echos my previous request! I've been asking about a mobile version "m.friendfeed.com" site too. When can we get this?? ;-) - Susan Beebe
While we're on the topic of FF "feature requests," FF definitely needs some kind of @user reply support for comments which mention folks in the manner @susan just mentioned @bret and @paul. Otherwise, unless I'm mistaken, those people will never see the comment and have no idea something is being said "to" them. - Scott Jarkoff
I think FriendFeed looks good on an iPod Touch. - Mike Reynolds
There is no reason someone couldn't make their own m.friendfeed.com. The API exposes everything you'd need (comments/likes/etc). I've considered doing it myself.... - Benjamin Golub
I think the @ feature is the biggest feature missing from ff. Its how I find new people on twitter. It really doesn't work as well on ff. - Nelson de Witt
I know everyone love teh iPhone but what about those of us that don't have it and won't be getting one? :T - Jennie Lin
Opera browser on the blackberry renders it pretty well - Tim Connors
try this: m.hellotxt.com - Mauro Del Rio from twhirl
Yes I've already suggested that. We need a mobile friendly friendfeed. - Svartling
I would have to agree the m.friendfeed.com for my Treo would make me a happy camper. - Mathew A. Koeneker
Come on guys. Make a mobile/iPhone optimized version of FF already. - James
We do need an optimized mobile/iPhone page for friendeed. The regular site is ok but it's not quite good enough....unless you want eye strain headaches.. - Mike Lewis
Happy to know it works well on the iphone but I only use a blackberry these days. This reminds me I want the new one! - Loic Le Meur from twhirl
If I had this mobile, I'd never get anything done!! - Charlie Anzman
I use a new BlackBerry Curve 8830 and FriendFeed does NOT work on it. twitter does... come'on FriendFeed we want MORE free features! ;-)~ - Susan Beebe
The FF login page breaks on Opera Mini 4.1. Don't know about the rest of FF yet. - Morton Fox
Does FF work in browsers that don't support AJAX? Progressive enhancement is a frontend engineering best practice that makes it possible for any website to work in a mobile browser without a separate subdomain. AJAX should be a "bonus" for browsers that support it, not a requirement for the site's basic functionality. - Jason Wehmhoener
I've been talking about this for a while, we definitely need some way to get functionality on all mobile devices. Great it works on an iPhone but we haven't all got iPhones. If we're not going to have m.ff then we need a mobile client that covers ALL bases. - Colin Walker
No, seriously, not "m." - doing it properly is so much better. The mobile web needs to die. There is just 'the web'. - Tom Morris
second that. both that we need it, and that we dont need m. we just need a version that knows where its shown on. or some app like twibble for FF. - kosmar
Wow it sure be hard to read the volume of content on any mobile device - Tim FitzGerald
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