No, Michael, it isn't "let's kill the rest of the Jews", it's lets deny the Jews claim that they were targeted during WWII. Big difference, bud. - Michael Forian

Hmmm, if it means kill "the rest", how did the others get killed? <scratches head> - CAJ, somewhere else

Sorry, Arrington is right on this one. Either way, anyone who denies the Holocaust isn't someone I'm all that interested in letting participate in any conversations I'm part of. - Robert Scoble

Whether or not its code for anything, its a clear statement that enables those who do want to kill the rest of the Jews to operate freely and to promote it freely. It is *inherently* racist. - Curtis Schweitzer

My comment was meant to show the bad logic of "holocaust denial = kill the rest of the Jews". If there was no Holocaust, how can you be killing "the rest"? - CAJ, somewhere else

Both Holocaust Denial and "Let's kill the rest of the Jews." are such ridiculous statements that they aren't even worth paying attention to. - Angus Burton

Before we get any further into this, I am not Jewish, but most of my friends are Jewish and my school is primarily of a Jewish population. I do not support Holocaust denial. A few months ago, I was trying to promote the fact that more Jews and Catholic Poles actually did die than the reported numbers. I just don't like Arrington's statement. Why? It just doesn't make any sense (Curtis Jackson pointed that out quite well). Is the 9/11 Conspiracy movement code for "let's get the terrorists to kill more Americans"? No! Holocaust deniers are trying to prove a point via historical facts. Let them. They have every right to (even though many don't agree). By the way, Scoble, by the tone of your comment (and I really don't want to assume anything), it sounds like you think I am a Holocaust denier. My grandfather killed the Nazi's in WWII, both with the Polish Air Force and the RAF. - Michael Forian

Michael: no, I didn't think you were. It's just that Arrington is right, this is code for anti-Semites to come together without saying "we hate Jews." By denying the Holocaust you are poking a stick in Jew's eyes. It's the most in your face form of anti-semitism. I'd say the worst form, but at least it's out in the open where we can confront it. Lots of anti-semitism happens behind closed doors where we can't confront it. - Robert Scoble

I'm not Jewish, by the way. My mom is German. My grandfather spoke out against what the Germans were doing and was arrested for doing that. My grandmother refused Hitler's youth medals and said "I don't raise my children for Hitler, I raise them for God." Anyone who says that the Holocaust didn't happen defiles my family's history too. - Robert Scoble

Well, if Arrington did mean it in that sense, then I have to agree. Usually Arrington is much more articulate (at least from what I've seen). On a side note, seeing that we're talking about family history during WWII, after my grandfather was being awarded a medal by Sir Winston Churchill for his service, he ripped it off his jacket (in front of Churchill) and threw it to the ground. He didn't want to be awarded for killing his fellow man. The Polish service men being awarded by Churchill as well, did the same thing. - Michael Forian

@Scoble I wish FF supported comment-liking. - Aaron Brethorst

Name me a true Holocaust denier who would not lose sleep if the Jews were eradicated. They do not exist since they are only using that argument about an established truth to cover their own interests and feelings towards the Jewish people. I have never heard of somebody who denies the Holocaust yet supports the Jewish people and their existence and I have spoken to a number of them. - Lester Greenberg

I'm curious: How many of you have read the personal accounts of those who were held in concentration camps? Have you read of the Poles, the Jehovah's Witnesses, the Jews, the prostitutes, the Christians who were caught for helping Jews and other German designated "undesirables" who were arrested and placed in concentration camps? Once you read the accounts, coupled with the pictorial evidence as well as the transcripts at Nurenburg, you can't walk away with anything but an understanding that to deny this event, is to have ulterior motives. - Melanie Reed

Yeah, I don't agree with Arrington about much, but that's pretty dead on right there. And you'd better believe that there are plenty of hate groups in this country who think that way. - Steven Perez

Melanie: I have. I doubt there are any Holocaust Deniers hanging out here. Of course, if there were, that would earn an automatic block from me. - Robert Scoble

Robert, I wish I could have met your Grandmother. She has earned my respect. - Melanie Reed

It's good advice, after any tragic event, to avoid those who lack sympathy just as much as you avoid those who take advantage of sympathy. - Gus

I worry about the long range plan of Holicaust diniers. It won't be long before there are no more first hand wtnesses left alive. - Robert Hafer

Robert Scoble +1 - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

It would be very interesting to analyze the "anathomy and antropology of like" - Maurizio Goetz

http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Amiram امیرم

It is stupid. The Holocaust happened. It was REAL. And it was terrible. Learn from history, don't ignore it. - Bill Lunsford

What Arrington said, regardless of what you think of Arrington, is pretty much correct. Holocaust deniers ignore the fact that the Nazis were caught out especially by their own meticulous record-keeping. And at the end of the day, a Holocaust Denier still wants to see all Jews dead. And sometimes for the flimsiest of reasons. Worst part is, a Holocaust denier won't stop with just Jews. He'd probably have gripes with other groups, like Gypsies. And so on. And the Holocaust denier would never once take a look at his own flaws or lack of character, or do something about rectifying his own crap. - George Hall (Australia)

Interesting bit of personal history here: in the early eighties, I was married to a Croat lady whose family had an Ustasha background. She spent most of the marriage trying to feed me crap about Croat Ustashi and trying to whitewash what they did during the war. After splitting from and divorcing her, I did some real research and found she'd been feeding so much crap. - George Hall (Australia)

You'd be surprised how many younger people come from families who did have Nazi/Fascist/Ustashi histories. Some became better people who turned against that sort of thinking. Others? Some continue the thinking of Fascist forebears. - George Hall (Australia)