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from email
I might argue that people are using it in more ways then just through an RSS reader. Just look at FF for example, it depends pretty heavily on RSS. We also see p2p software now including RSS for video. Trying to define it only as a news phenomenal is too narrow.
- Davis Freeberg
i feed about 300 blogs through Google Reader. Yes, I might have an illness.
- Shawna Benson
Make me Master of the Universe and I can make it less geeky. Seriously. If I could get developers to drop their paranoia, we could make it easy. And get the BigCo's to cough up a few bucks to operate a subscription server. That's the hard part. Going from "I want to subscribe to this" to actually subscribing. The subscription process needs to be centralized.
- Dave Winer
@Dave, in some ways, isn't Google becoming the master server for RSS content? Newsgator pretty much today announced all of their main RSS clients will soon sync with Google Reader.
- Steve Rubel
from email
A lot of people still don't use tabbed browsing. We take a lot for granted.
- Steve Rubel
from email
RSS being too hard is bogus. In FF, the act of subscribing to a feed is the same as bookmarking as a site. People don't subscribe for the same reason they don't bookmark -- they just don't care. And that's why people search for "yahoo" rather than going to yahoo.com.
- Andy Bakun
It doesn't feel as personal as something like Twitter or FriendFeed. Most items that can be received via RSS can also be discovered via FF or Twitter...only thru the latter two, it has a social element to it.
- Team Frosick
@Dawn: No, sit down with a non-RSS user and explain what RSS really is and how easy it is to use and they usually fall in love. It could use some better UX but really just the freaking acronym is confusing. Blogs on Demand or TiVo for blogs or BlogFlix and it would dawn on people that content can come to them instead of the other way around.
- AJ Kohn
Most people are happy with the browsing for content paradigm. So if a person has no problem with the status quo then there's no incentive to even investigate RSS, let alone switch to it. But I would have thought that the explosion of sites like YouTube and Flickr would have really made more out of the possibilities of RSS. But RSS is always an add-on and never an exciting feature.
- Scott Wilder
In France, we don't have an "average Joe"; we have a "Madame Michu"(like average Joe's aunt, you see?). And I've been complaining about the fact that it was IMPOSSIBLE for Madame Michu to understand what "RSS" could mean, since she doesn't really fully understand what "browsing" means.
- Zackatoustra
I guess that we("geekly litterate people") have failed bringing the power of RSS to the people(and Madame Michu). Mme Michu doesn't care about "Valid RSS feed". But still, she appreciate the stuff that happens when an update of her son status on facebook happens. Soon, she'll be thrilled to see tweets poping up, and, still, she won't give a shoe for a clear defintion of "the so-simple subscription paradigm".
- Zackatoustra
RSS is a must for anyone who wants to follow the topics of interest. I don't understand the point people try to make when they say that RSS is dead and Twitter etc is where they read their news. Sign up for Google Reader, subscribe to sites you visit and that will save you a lot of time and make you much more productive.
- Marko Saric
I abandoned Google Reader last year. Too much crap and not enough social filtering.
- Thomas Hawk
Agree with Davis Freeberg. RSS powers widgets and wordpress plugins and whatnot that bring weather, news, tweetstreams, etc., onto websites. So, people are reading stuff delivered by RSS (or in some cases APIs), they just don't know it.
- Laura Norvig
Twitter is talking about being like electricity. I think RSS operates in a similar fashion. It is already invisible YET it powers much of what we do here. So questions of adoption miss the point to me - it's already adopted. How public should a 'protocol' be? That's the question here...and it might apply to Twitter too, I think...
- Keven Elliff
@Keven Elliff, spot on. Sure, people aren't gushing about RSS in their blog posts, but their blogs almost universally have an RSS feed anyhow. RSS is ubiquitous (on the Web, at least). You're right. It comes down to how we use this tool.
- Michael Becker
The thing I that I don't like about the RSS process is that it is just not real time. The way it is currently deployed I have to have a tool that regularly polls a whole bunch of sites at infrequent times to determine if anything has changed. That just isn't fast enough - and if I poll fast enough (and everybody else does the same) to satisfy my real time wants it breaks the delivering...
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- Brian Sullivan
I like AJ's comment: "Sit down with a non-RSS user and explain what RSS really is and how easy it is to use and they usually fall in love." I've seen this, too. But I think we're missing another root cause: big sites haven't figured out how to please those of us that want full, ad-free (or ad-lite) RSS feeds, which means they get way less ad placement compared to you visiting their website. Therefore, they bury the "what's RSS?" content (see NYTimes) and they don't help the average Joe/Michu figure out RSS.
- Jeremy Schultz
In other words, successful RSS feeds equals less ad revenue for a big site, so why do that? Just a theory... (I know some sites use/try placing ads in RSS, but maybe just posting a summary versus full text is an option.)
- Jeremy Schultz
My entire business is based on RSS. No RSS, no podcasts.
- Leo Laporte
lots of people use RSS feeds or they get their content via RSS feed, they just don't know it or care.
- PC Easy
from twhirl
I think RSS is a miracle, yet I can think of very few people I know that seem to be aware of it's for.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I totally love RSS. I rarely actually "surf" the web. My biggest issue is to decide whether to use gReader or NNW ;-)
- Sven
I can't see living without my Google RSS feed! I follow over 200 blogs, news & information sites using RSS. It is indispensable in my opinion.
- Jeff P. Henderson
RSS is not difficult to use. I just think that your average Joe six-pack has no idea what RSS is or how it could benefit them. I know many people who visit multiple web sites every day to see what is new. If they only knew that they could have custom tailored news delivered to them in one place, most people would be very happy to use it.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Because all I do on the internet is check my official mails :|
- Rohit
I think it certainly could be more user-friendly.
- debegray
100% agreed. I can't live without my RSS feeds, its how I start my day with coffee, I am a total junkie. On the flip side, while I have show my wife how, and she has agreed it is awesome, she just doesn't use the net like that and wont do the 2 seonds of admin it takes to enjoy them.
- Bush Williams
from Alert Thingy
Agreed. Tech people need to take a cue from Apple. Simple = better adoption, period.
- Patricia
I find Google's Chrome lack of support for RSS a concern, you have no way to know a site/page has an RSS link, without going into the source with Chrome...why is this? when every other browser, even Chrome's source Safari does, and the worst browser of all, Internet Explorer has done for ages. Really for the average user, they should not need to understand RSS, it should just work,...
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- Carl Grint
I still find it amazing that Delicious or StumbleUpon doesn't have some sort of flag that will ask if you want to subscribe to the site you are bookmarking or giving a thumbs up to. They could even white-label a RSS reader and put their brand all over it. Talk about a way to keep a customer and get them hooked on RSS.
- AJ Kohn
I spoke about RSS on a radio station a month or so back. Clip is available at http://andypiper.wordpress.com/2009... I made the same point that many people are "using" RSS without realising it - through various online apps and mashups, through FF, Twitter and other tools.
- Andy Piper
I take a Jacob Neilson-esque view of it: RSS offers too much content that overwhelms people. It's why they like Twitter, which forces users to ruthlessly shorten their descriptions.
- Maxwell Kennerly
I can't speak to the people who aren't, but I still love RSS and consider it a primary if not the primary source of news for me.
- Martha
Wanna explode the use of RSS? Make bookmarks (favorites) RSS subscriptions rather than static HTML. Just bake it right into the browser. Non-technical users needn't have any understanding of RSS beyond a gold star in their favorites folder. But they'll appreciate having relevant information being presented to them after a single click.
- Chris Baskind
Chris - to some extent that is already happening although very subtly - Safari 4's recent sites view uses RSS to mark sites as changed, and you don't even have to bookmark them. It's only a few steps from here to showing the RSS content as a 'preview'.
- Robin Barooah
Yep, I think you're partly right. But, in a sense, that sucks. Because that means that we "litterate internet users" won't be able to "explode the use of RSS". Only browsers makers(Microsoft, Mozilla, Opera, Applel) can thus make the revolution move? That's a shame. But, as mentionned many times before in this thread, we do not need to use the term "RSS", or even "Syndication". Those...
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- Zackatoustra
from email
11% in 2008? I wonder what the figure is now. I'm surprised that people consider that to be 'low' - it seems pretty gigantic to me when you consider how complex it is compared to say, Google. Also, even the best feed readers essentially have no real tools for managing the potential overload.
- Robin Barooah
That good to know, or Tom would need a new Co-host! ;)
- Fee501st
I've played similar games which came with the intel Create and Share camera's bundle. and that was almost 10 years ago! Not much changes since then.. wonder when implementation will really move forward.
- Reetesh
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- Brad Williamson
from Bookmarklet
Yes, I'm sitting in bed reading the papers, there would be nothing leisurely or reflective about doing this on my laptop.
- Chris Nuttall
i like the multiple points of view that emerge through online comments about news. I think the future of the paper is editorialized and opinionated by the online community.
- Peter Warnock