I spent the first few years of my life just down the street from there on 6th and Howard. I used to remember walking by this building with all of its hustle and bustle...
- Franklin Naval
Not so much hustle and bustle these days, more doom and gloom.
- Dave Winer
surreal - since usually you see lots of other partially as high buildings around something like this - here its lots of open space
- mike "glemak" dunn
I just heard that Dubai has a third of the world's cranes.
- Gabe
I wonder if the tower of Babel looked like that?
- Robert
I have a feeling the next September 11 won't be in New York.
- John Lam
Do I sense jealousy? I think it's incredible. About time someone built something impressive. The US should follow suit with a suitably impressive WTC memorial. As for a messed up society? Pff, when your own house is in order then go after someone elses.
- Mo Kargas
Robert, I was thinking exactly the same thing ;)
- Graham Garland
any taller and it'll scratch our precious ozone
- Pete Delucchi
Wow, that is awe-inspiring. I would be scared out of my mind to be on that thing when it is finished, let alone being the crane operator. Gives me the heeby geebies just thinking about it!
- Tony
Dubai must be an interesting place visually. All sorts of weird buildings there.
- Yolanda
2,684 ft (818m) in height! wow, that's over 1/2 a mile high!
- Susan Beebe
The same architect was going to build a 2400-foot casino resort here in Vegas before the FAA intervened and got it canceled. Something about it being in the way of planes.
- Chris Reed
no way in hell am I going to the top of that thing. imagine being an iron worker on the very top? well I guess it's like China, labor is replaceable
- clarke thomas
There are many over-the-top examples of Dubai architecture, but the one that really knocks my socks off is the project to build an entirely new city with extreme "green" ambition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... I'm frequently amazed by the sheer quantity of projects like this happening in UAE.
- Jason Wehmhoener
What's Barad-dûr doing in the middle of Dubai??
- Will DeLuca
it'll be great when it's finished. Dubai, that is... Dubai will be great when it's finished...
- Andrew Terry
Reminded me of Gustav Doré's Tower Of Babel illustration: http://is.gd/UjL Amazing, truly.
- Madsimian
Ha! Commented before expanding comments to see all the "Tower of Babel" exclamations. It sure is a natural point of reference...
- Madsimian
Dubai: where Erector sets join together for REALLY big projects.
- Kevin C. Tofel
Very impressive piece of engineering and architecture!
- Jeff P. Henderson
Why? I don't understand why. It's like they are trying to prove something. But how many workers died building this vanity project?
- Liz
Liz it's not the Middle Ages. I am sure the building is not resting on the bones of the poor exploited workers.
- John Samuelson
this place looks like after a war! They might have the money, but haven't they heard about green? Let's see what happens when they will run out of oil. Anyway, that's a great building, but it doesn't fit the landscape.
- Dan V
World's largest building = tourist attraction.
- Tanath
Yeah so many people, even in my IT program have never heard of LinkedIn
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I can see why LinkedIn hasn't been heard of. Not many people are into putting resumes and stuff online anyway and it seems very enterprise-ish
- Corvida
from twhirl
Surely that should be "What WAS Facebook"?
- Chris Nixon
I actually think that FF is what I wanted Facebook to be.
- Chris Nixon
"What the (bleep) is the internet" - Jay from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
- George Smith
I'm a student. Facebook is the only thing alot of them know. Twitter, Flickr, Linkedin -- like speaking Klingon.
- Phillip Jeffrey
What closet, rock or hole have they been living in? Doesn't know what Facebook is? OMG you've got to be kidding me!
- Susan Beebe
Facebook's a little green patch. Or a place where someone can buy you as a pet.
- Christine Cavalier
Did you tell them it's where they let the asylum inmates play?
- Todd Jordan
BTW, most college kids are pretty unaware of social networking. My husband is an undergraduate advisor. They concentrate on texting, mostly. The middle-to-upper class white kids know FaceBook, but that's about it. I wouldn't call 21-25 year olds digital natives. The ''true" digital natives are about 3 years old or younger right now. Corvida, I would guess that many more of your peers will come to ask you this in the coming months.
- Christine Cavalier
wow, that beats some of my friends - they know what it is, but don't see the point!
- Sarah Perez
LinkedIn is for when you have a career (and are establishing a professional network). Incoming freshman may not know facebook, but most do by the time October runs around. In terms of "digital native", the way I think of it is that the digital natives are those who don't understand the concept of a tv show being on at a specific day and time. My 9-y-o daughter has always known Tivo, whereas I used a 300 baud modem in my first job out of school
- Barry Graubart
from twhirl
Spent some quality time with my 18-year-old brother last week (who I hadn't seen in a couple of years) and was entertained by his lack of interest in the "new cool stuff" on the web. He has a MySpace account but hasn't updated it in forever. Doesn't really use email much or even IM. If he does anything on the web it's Facebook. He is in constant communication with his friends via texting though. I think his generation is more interested in being connected while mobile than anything else.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I have a few friends of comparable age (43) using Facebook and/or MySpace, and maybe three or four on LinkedIn. None--none!--use FF, Twitter, or anything else like that. My daughter's friends are on Facebook, but like everyone else who's posted, texting is the thing for them.
- Steve Lowe
from NoiseRiver
I'm not sure if this is the right room to mention this (since there is no room search that I can find) but has anyone else noticed that some feeds, most notably twitter, are coming through with a siginificant delay? It seems to have started yesterday afternoon for me.
Boring people don't have enemies. Not all interesting people do, but boring folks never do. If you're lucky tho - your friends like you as much & as passionately as your enemies hate you.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Next time someone tries to do a block on me, I will retaliate with DOS denial attack on their server! Block per Block! lmao
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Loic, Does this mean I have to become the only person that doesn't like you to save you from a life of mediocrity? I love seesmic so much I would do that for you.
- Cathleen Rittereiser
from NoiseRiver
I'm pretty medicre but my friends have lots of haters. What does that mean?
- Robert Scoble
"We are sorting ourselves out by choosing to live with people that we agree with," Bill Clinton quote from today. Is this true of FF community?
- Steven Cains
@cains: It's true of every community. The alternative: What, you're going to force me to be with people I DON'T like? Who gave you the power to choose for me? And what about freedom of association in the Constitution?
- Alexander Williams
from NoiseRiver
This brings to mind a couple versus from R.Kipling: ... If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you; If all men count with you, but none too much, If you can fill the unforgiving minute With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it...
- Franklin Naval
What's wrong with being mediocre? Doesn't mean you can't do extraordinary things.
- Jim Kukral
from twhirl
It's not possible for everybody to like anyone. If everyone else in the world likes a person, then my husband will hate him/her.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
If you always try to get everyone to like you and never say anything that expresses your true feelings for fear that someone might be offended does that mean you hate yourself?
- Guilty Party
Part of me really agrees with the quote, but part of me also thinks it's a load of crap. I think that if there's someone everyone likes, that person is probably hiding something or not allowing themself to be fully transparent. For me, I prefer total transparency - I want to know if I'm going to like you or hate you. Any middleground just wastes time and energy.
- Sam Dodge
I agree to a point. You have to have an opinion and stick up for that, but you can't just be generally abrasive.
- Jeremy Vaught
I was thinking about this some more Loic. I think this statement is bullshit propaganda tripe spouted by people who think being a dick is "interesting". No, it's just you being a dick. Being liked is a good thing. Let's not try to claim that good people are boring as you suggest.
- Jim Kukral
Asuming you're good, I think it's easy to be disliked and come across as arogant. It's far harder to be good and liked.
- Ben Metcalfe
from twhirl
There's no such thing as "everybody." There's nothing wrong with mediocre. Being hated does not mean you are more [interestng, intelligent, creative] etc. Being liked and being mediocre are factors independent of each other.
- Roxanne Darling
from twhirl
You can be liked by many people, but it is impossible to satisfy everyone. Sometimes you will bump into people that you don't like. I would say "If everybody likes you, you are not honest"
- Erno Hannink
yes that is 100% true unless you are an antagonizer. Notice Amanda Chapel is both intelligent and has people listening to her.
- Noah David Simon
To be a real jerk in social networking brings people to you. but it makes ur life a nightmare. I would prefer mediocrity
- Noah David Simon
in an optimized system (social or economic) mediocrity is healthy =) (retweeting myself here into FF, since FF doesn't pickup the twitter conversation)
- Thomas Knoll
I got my twitter account back @NoahDavidSimon and I notice by not being there I still have around 1000 followers.
- Noah David Simon
by not tweeting I got a better share of listeners... but not really. I just didn't piss them off yet
- Noah David Simon
I would rephrase it : “if you want attention from everyone, you are probably ZERO" or "if you want to be liked (loved) by everyone, you are mediocre" LOLOLOLOL
- Lora Lufark
@RAPatton Useful Tech, Social Media, Sci-fi, writing, blogging, American Football. Honestly, I want a diverse range of ideas from a diverse group of people.
- Ben Parr
Any particular football teams? Or just football in general?
- Patrick Veverka
hmm... perhaps this could be statistically derived based on the data that's available now.
- Franklin Naval
Did they leave those things up on the poles? I guess so, there is no compelling reason to take them down and no salvage value to speak of.
- DGentry
I had one of those. Downloaded betas of Windows 95 several times on one.
- Robert Scoble
I had one for my Newton MessagePad. Never used it that much. Did think a lot about apps that I could build for them.
- scott anderson
Metricom made no provisions for taking their equipment down when they secured the mounting rights for their network. Thus, when they went belly up, there was no budget to yank their old equipment. Cities around the country learned their lesson. Now, pretty much every pole attachment agreement you encounter will include a "Metricom/Ricochet" clause that requires the radio removal to be ensured by a bond.
- Christopher Sacca
Memories... I remember when they first started...
- Mitchell Tsai
I still have my old Ricochet modem. There was talk among city services types here in SF that it might come back as a utility - since the city now owned all the equipment. Fortunately they figured out that municipal wifi is smarter. Still hope it happens.
- Hillary Hartley
back then you'd tell people "wireless internet, it's the future!" and they'd just look at you funny.
- Karim
I had a repeater on my roof and got free service.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
96kbps and all the Hamster Dance you could stand. Thems were the days.
- Leo Laporte
Brings back memories of my dual twisted pair 56kbps ISDN lines from USWest. Circa 1997
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Leo, I believe it's spelt "Hampster Dance" :-D
- Karim
Leo: 96kbps? On my Ricochet I was happy to get something close to 19kbps. Usually I only got 12.
- Robert Scoble
I remember driving to work with my laptop on the passenger side, sending IRC messages saying "I'm chatting in the car!!!" while at stop signs. Probably one of the dumber things I've done, but I was in awe of such a cool device :)
- Patrick Lightbody
cradlepoint + verizon 3G evdo card = personal mobile wifi cloud. very powerful.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Still have my Ricochet USB modem! Ah, the memories. :) (I have a Sprint card now)
- Erica Douglass
Scoble: The second version of their service, which they had rolled out to limited service areas by the time they died, had a theoretical bandwidth of up to 128kbps or something like that.
- ⓞnor
I had Ricochet service back in ~2000-2001. I used it on my laptop as well as my pocket PC. It was great at the time, and I was so disappointed when they went belly up. I was getting 200-300 kbps download speeds, which was pretty good at the time. I drove from Foster City to San Jose once with my pocket PC connected the whole time just to prove I could...
- Jeff P. Henderson
Ricochet is why I never connected to the internet on a dial-up modem. When I was young, I only had internet access at work or school, where we had a fast connection. Later, I had internet access with a cable modem. In between, when everyone else used dial-up, I used Ricochet.
- Amit Patel
This technology should be reused rather than taken down. However, I'm sure there's lots of legal stuff that needs to be cleared before that happens...
- Franklin Naval
I loved Ricochet service, but the lesson I learned from Metricom failure was much more valuable. I got an access to a certain insider report proving Metricom will never reach profitability for one simple reason - Ricochet network would collapse before the number of users could make it profitable. Sure thing, one would use this insider info to profit by shorting the stock, right? Of course the stock eventually reached zero. The only problem was that on it's way from $40 to zero it touched $200. He-he.
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
The best part was the little beeps it made when it connected.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
I think I still have my Ricochet modem somewhere. And I still have the T-shirt & baseball cap.
- Tim Chemacki
4th missle FAIL. but srsly, this is bad news.
- Hao Chen
To be clear, I am not celebrating a missile launch. Not sure I expected people to gather that from this post. Rather, I am entertained by the desperation of political regimes to show infallibility and their use of very modern tools like Photoshop to do so. Imagine who they got to doctor this image. Was it a pro in their intelligence services already? Or maybe it was some official's geeky kid?
- Christopher Sacca
Nice post - one always suspects a level of deception but to see it as clearly as this is unique...
- Kevin Cearns
do you think they got their Photoshop from (a) one of the many spam messages offering to sell you Photoshop, (b) www.piratebay.org, or (c) Best Buy in Palo Alto?
- peter
Three missiles? Bah. Four missiles?Global domination!
- Ken Norton
aesthetically the 4 missile photo looks better. do you think they did a UI review before releasing this?
- peter
@peter I agree, that missile does look strong. I would have liked to have seen the comments. "More plume. How about a touch more burnt umber?"
- Christopher Sacca
Now 25% less scary! Or, as Iran may want us to think: 33% more powerful!
- Jennie Lin
i wonder if they tried to launch 4 but only 3 fired. and for pride reasons they wanted to show 4 launches.
- peter
a possible US reply to this is a photoshopped image of our lasers from outer space firing down and evaporating these missiles. Lets win with better JPEGs!!!!!
- peter
They need to hire a better photoshop guy/gal. It's so obvious, it's not even funny.
- AJ Batac
why didn't they go for broke and paste in another 50?
- Nathan Rein
If it was me, I would have erased the misfiring 4th missile rather than trying to clone in another missile. "The 4th missile was INVISIBLE - be afraid!"
- David Worrell
@franknaval: What? NoiseRiver never asks people to install any script, anything at all actually. Can you please show us a screenshot? :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
I think one of the things you fail to realize is that the community only gives people tons of productive feedback if said people already have some sort of popularity or leg into the productive side of a community. It’s hard to break the status quo and become part of any “in” group. You are luckily influential and popular on FriendFeed, so you get lots of feedback.
- Brian Wilson
I've definitely been enjoying your stuff lately. The inside looks at seadragon have been especially cool. btw, I notice that you aren't following me on FF. It would be great to get in on that group. :)
- Ben Reierson
I've only been on FF for two weeks and have 26 people following me including several 'high profile' people. If you participate, you can quickly become part of the community. If you have something interesting to say, people will follow you. If you just lurk, then you experience will be much less interesting.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Yeah, I certainly agree with that. Participation is a must, and hope I didn't imply otherwise. There is a lot of noise on here as well. I think sometimes you happen to catch people's eye, but just as often people will slip through the cracks. I think as FF evolves it will hopefully focus on making it easier to find the most interesting contributors. For instance there is no way to mod your comment up, which would be nice.
- Ben Reierson
are you using the WordPress module to get FF into your site? Do the comments on your site come here? Because I see Brian's comment here and blog but not allen's .. just curious. Oh, tried to get Gail and Martin from TabletKiosk onto FF. So, even Face-to-Face conversations are influenced by FF
- LPH™ and his dog P™
I agree with Robert. If it wasn't for the community, I wouldn't be coming back to read stuff. I'm still trying to get the hang of it though. There's a lot of noise and I'm now unsubscribing a bunch of people that I added when I started.
- Franklin Naval
LPH: no, Brian just copied his comment to both places. I haven't yet gone with one of the new fangled comment systems.
- Robert Scoble
When I first joined FF, I was asked to subscribe to a few "popular".. Robert Scoble is like the starter's package. I haven't added many others so far yet. Robert and his friends' entries take up most of the entries I see everyday. That, in a way, is to say there's quite a lot of noise but it's a good introduction to the FF itself as well. Heh.
- Chris Chua
Chris: I try to keep the noise down to a dull roar. Let me know if I'm getting carried away.
- Robert Scoble
I loved the live chat room but interested as to what the interactive elements will be.Update - It'll be 2am on Saturday morning here so I won't be able to watch :(
- Toby Graham
Ben Reierson: "Participation is a must" That all depends of course on how you want to use FriendFeed.
- Rutger Blom
Good point, but then we should be able to filter things by language. It will be scary if chinese invade FF -- just kidding, we all love chinese :)
- directeur
filtering by language would be a useful add!
- Alessandro
Translation a la Google would be cooler! Us English-only folks don't want to be exclusive, we're just not skilled enough to include foreign languages. Machine translation isn't perfect but it could go a long way toward broadening the conversation so all your Chinese (or others) ideas can contribute to our conversation as well as vice versa.
- Kenneth LeFebvre
I think it's not in the best interest of FriendFeed to add localizations in this stage because development of core system is still on the way. I would be more impressed if base system would develop faster instead of crossing development to multible ways (because adding translations can cause problems because community starts to split up).
- Daniel Schildt
It's not just English. There are some really heavy users of FriendFeed in Iran. Lots of persian FriendFeed rooms http://friendfeed.com/e... and people sharing FriendFeed stat pages.
- Mitchell Tsai
English is my 4th language actually :)
- directeur
Is there much French (or other non-English European) activity? I haven't seen much non-English non-Persian activity in my usage yet.
- Mitchell Tsai
I also miss my friends here. FF's interface is simple, so it won't take a lot of time to translate it... But such simplicity may be lost after adding localization and filtering by language options, I afraid.
- Anton
From now on, I'm taking a screenshot of my Friendfeed stats page every day. After 30 days, I'm going to put them in a slideshow format and watch my progression.
Going to set the default Flickr privacy to Only Me on Jing Project, so I don't piss anyone off. :)
- Hao Chen
Problem is my FF stats have NOT changed on FF in a LONG time?!! so not sure this will work, unless you have another tool to pull this data dynamically.
- Susan Beebe
sounds like fun...I was thinking of doing something similar on a weekly or monthly basis...daily is bit extreme, but all the power to you (kind of agree with Czar :))
- Justin Korn
@Susan I don't have this problem. My likes might be small enough in quantity and diverse enough that my stats haven't 'leveled off' yet. Anyone else having that issue, especially the earlier users?
- Hao Chen
Perhaps we should create a group on Flickr. My plan is to take it every month, though
- LouCypher
That would be a very interesting study. Better yet, the data should be integrated with Google Docs and spreadsheets. Use the pie graph gadget to demonstrate the changes.
- Franklin Naval
Google should definitely get into this space. I wonder if the 3D models can be imported from the Google Warehouse aka SketchUp models? That would be HUGE.
- Hao Chen
I knew that vast library of free online 3D content would come in handy. Google certainly has a lot of pieces/and services that would come together nicely for a service that would be hard to compete with. I'm pretty interested in what's to come.
- sergiooo