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You Can Please Some of the People Half the Time - http://www.popehat.com/2009...
"Thanks for the NetWits Think Tank mention here. It’s great to hear people finding it to be a useful resource! I’d love to hear what you like about it and what’s been most useful so we can continue to produce that type of content for our readers. I’d love to connect on Twitter as well. I’m @franswaa (http://twitter.com/franswaa)"
- frank barry
Embracing lifetime value - http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_b...
whoa! this one hits home for me an i imagine will for the many that read it.
- frank barry
What sort of accent do you have? - http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_b...
This is a really good one to ponder ... thx Godin!
- frank barry
The Future of the Social Web: In Five Eras - http://www.web-strategist.com/blog...
Rajif Krobat, Baytech, Björn Klose and 113 other people liked this
Interesting stuff...thanks for sharing
- Hugo Guzman
Great info! I agree fish where the fish are :)
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
Agree on the whole. I always find these categories a little artificial: Really "Forrester-speak". :) I think the recommendations are the most interesting. I'd make a separate post out of that.
- Meryn Stol
You say it yourself: "What’s interesting isn’t this vision for the future, but what it holds in store for brands, " . I'd like these recommendations to be fleshed out with concrete first steps to take. Doesn't have to be more than links to relevant resources.
- Meryn Stol
Meryn The recommendations are fleshed out in the actual reports. Our clients (brands) have access to see them.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Hmm ok... Then I'll need to get the details elsewhere I guess. :)
- Meryn Stol
Interesting categorization of the development into eras. Any consideration to the impact of scale on the 5th era? Just as a recent example with Facebook, their format evolution was not well received by what is not an insignificant number of members, and yet the reality is - that change - negative impact not withstanding is not rolling back.
- Patrick Boegel
There will be a give and take between communities and brands. The thing is, Facebook doesn't have a competitive alternative that users could go to. In my report, we suggest that active communities could define specs for products, and bid MULTIPLE companies to build it.
- Jeremiah Owyang
I completely understand that Jeremiah, just wondering if the nature of scale impacted or perhaps better said impacts the thought process for very complex long term brand relationships, ie Health Insurance, Financial Services, a college/university choice, where consversation and user invovlement can be complicated. Very interested in the full report either way. Thx.
- Patrick Boegel
good stuff Jeremiah, enjoyed and some good thought provokers there for the future
- Richard Binhammer
Nice paper but really expensive for young people. $750 means $41 for page.
- Alp
Great information, understanding the future's potential is more important than ever on the social web.
- Maria Reyes-McDavis
Interesting, but very general and hard to apply. I see companies more as å provide of tools/stage for conversation, aka the gold rush mining vs selling tools
- Anders Dahlberg
Alp, Many of Forrester's clients are large brands who have a subscription. We're still sharing a great deal on this blog, and have given the report to bloggers to cover, so there's value to be had there.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Jeremiah (and the team), a great piece of work and, I imagine, a labour of both love and loathing at times! I have been very interested in this area as I have looked at the shift in skills to deliver social media activity changes from one of basic coding knowledge to much more human, interactive skills.
- Paul Fabretti
Fantastic article! I found it SO intriguing that I've even printed it out!
- J. D. Ebberly
"How Brands Should Prepare" is a great bit of information. Jeremiah, it would be nice (i'd be reading) if you expanded in future blog posts about the "How Brands Should Prepare".
- frank barry
That's likely to be a research report I'm thinking about writing Frank
- Jeremiah Owyang
Probably correct in assuming that most online social networks will neither spawn nor solidify to the point of being considered ‘affinity groups’ with the level of cohesion, unified budgetary authority or organized implementation capability of NGOs, churches, or employee aggregations. Even in the era of social commerce. I hope I’m wrong.
- A Mitchell
Great post, understanding the future's potential is more important than ever on the social web.
- Vlad Hrouda
Just found this... great stuff!
- Gerd Leonhard
Conversation of the Day: Facebook is the New Address Book - http://www.steverubel.com/convers...
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does the gmail sync with the iPhone not work for you?
- metalerik
metalerik: I have thousands of contacts in Gmail. They go out of date at a pretty rapid rate. For some reason people keep their Facebook contacts up to date.
- Robert Scoble
oh ok, makes sense especially at those numbers. Plus, my friends don't have access to my gmail contacts to keep their info up to date. That circles back to mixing different kinds of friends on one service.
- metalerik
Facebook is a great addition to any address book, but not a replacement. Once everyone has facebook it will replace the address book. Almost everyone has a phone number, but tens of millions of people are still without facebook in North America alone. I admit this is rapidly changing as Facebooks user base continues to rise.
- Garin Kilpatrick
The problem is Facebook is currently a closed Network so you can not searh it's content from Google so not really a good address book if you ask me.
- Rob Cairns
Rob, it's an address book for your friends, not the white/yellow pages.
- Andre P. Siregar
Palm thought of this when they developed Synergy for WebOS. This was a big advantage over other mobile OS. Then Facebook developed the 3.0 app for iPhone while not committing to enhance their app on WebOS (http://www.palminfocenter.com/news...). No more advantage for WebOS
- Andre P. Siregar
I'm in 100% agreement with this. I use a Blackberry, but feel the same way. People keep their info up to date on Facebook for the most part and it sync's to my phone. So do events and birthdays. LOVE it.
- frank barry
I do agree with your proposal but only for personal (F&F) use. Most of my corporate contacts are 40+ age and they're still getting used to the Facebook stuff (I'm living down south Equator Line, and it's more likely a cab driver had a Facebook account that a senior o C level manager -with the exception of people working in IT departments of course-). Hopefully they'll update their phones frequently too so that I won't have to track them down all the time.
- Marco ILLESCAS
I agree with Scoble that Gmail is really missing the boat here.
- Steve Rubel
Robert Scoble: If you set up the Google Sync on the iPhone as described here: http://www.google.com/mobile... then only the contacts in your "My Contacts" on the contacts list in GMail gets synced. It does take a little bit of initial setup to work well, but after you get it set up, it works brilliantly. When I sync my Facebook to my iPhone, the photos and such that I put on the phone then get auto-synced back to GMail as well via the Google Sync. Very clever.
- Otto
Well, as otto just said, I'm using Google Sync for iPhone. Any changes i make are instantly synced back to Google. Its also easaier to manage and merge contacts from Google's interface and sync them back to the iPhone. More groups would be a nice addition ( instead of having to search for contacts not in the synced group).
- Roberto Bonini
Syncing groups would be a *fantastic* addition to Google Sync. The iPhone supports contact groups natively, it just doesn't offer any interface to put contacts into groups by default (you can find apps that will do this in the app store.. ABContacts Lite comes to mind).
- Otto
Oh, one more thing that's very cool about Google Sync: It'll sync your Google Calendars to the calendar app on the iPhone. You can choose which calendars to sync, and Google Contacts recently added a birthday/anniversary feature, making an automatic calendar out of your contact's birthdays and such. That syncs to the iPhone as well.
- Otto
Nope. I can say definitively that Facebook will never be my address book, nor will any other online service. I may have bits and pieces on various networks, but to hold the master/superset, I trust only native access on a device I own and control. (not to mention how horrifying it would be, to me and my family and friends, to cough up my entire social graph to be pimped out for commercialization all in one place)
- LogEx
Facebook is not search able by Google. The content inside Google is closed. So how is this going to be an address book? Until they make the content searchable that will not happen
- Rob Cairns
I've been using Google sync for about a month now, ever since I got Google Voice and it's worked flawlessly so far. I'm amazed at how fast it pushes updates to the iPhone. It's almost instantaneous. I haven't tried the FaceBook integration yet and I'm reluctant to do so since I don't see any real benefit at this point.
- Mike Elliott
With this script (from Googler Brad Fitzpatrick) http://brad.livejournal.com/2398409..., you can sync your Facebook contacts with your Google Contacts. It works perfectly (merging existing contacts), it's very fast, very secure (Google API). Just awesome.
- Jérôme Flipo
Plaxo is a good alternative too. True, not everyone is there, lacking the network effect Facebook has. But integration with Address Book or Outlook is great and I find that people also maintain their info up-to-date. Thanks for those who mentioned the Google Sync, still using MobileMe and didn't want any additional sync to break everything. Might try it.
- Paul Papadimitriou
Yeah, I have a Plaxo account. A lot of my friends do too, but they never update their Plaxo information. In the end it's more than just the technology. People actually _use_ Facebook. Facebook is wise to capitalize this and strategize towards being your portal on the internet. It's something that Plaxo could never dream of.
- Andre P. Siregar
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Interesting topic because I had just migrated over from my OutLook/Palm combo to a Google Contacts (Gmail) / iPhone combo. The reason why I wanted to do this is because I think it is finally time to move my contacts from a physical machine to the cloud. The sync between Google Contacts and Calendar with the iPhone via Google Sync is quite seamless and I am getting to like it more and more everyday.
- Christopher Yeo
I use gmail/blackberry combo - the sync is almost perfect. Rather than use Highrisehq - I'm now trying to improvise gmail contacts+labels to do the same thing.
- Jose Paul Martin
Jose, the problem is that you can't search for contact groups, i.e you can't list contacts that are in two different groups/labels - e.g search for [group:(work AND nyc]. You can't do that either in Facebook. If you have a workaround for Google Contacts, please share!
- Jérôme Flipo
Just discovered a way to use Google Sync to get my Facebook Events automatically put into my iPhone. First, import your FB events into Google Calendar as a new calendar using these instructions: http://gr33ndata.blogspot.com/2007... then just set up Google Sync to sync that calendar as well.
- Otto
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The Influentials : Web Ecology Project - http://www.webecologyproject.org/2009...
Measuring Twitter Influence in new ways. Very nice.
- frank barry
frank barry (franswaa) - twazzup twitter search - http://live.twazzup.com/franswa...
Interesting enhanced Twitter profile.
- frank barry
Develop a Social Media Strategy in 7 Steps | Social Media Marketing | Social Media Consulting - Convince & Convert - http://www.convinceandconvert.com/social-...
Great stuff here. Steps. Tools. Slides. A whole framework to take someone through.
- frank barry
9 Things to Do To Make Sure Your Next Blog Post is Read by More than Your Mom - http://www.problogger.net/archive...
Love the image. Must read just to see that. The tips are awesome as well so you'll get something out of it for sure.
- frank barry
Why The Trust Agents Fan Page Works - http://altitudebranding.com/2009...
"Hey Amber - Nice post. I love the info on what has been working and how Chris and Julien have been using Facebook. It’s always great to get insight into what people are doing to be effective. I think starting with Facebook or not it’s a matter of practice. If you start with Facebook you have to keep practicing, being active, talking to people, sharing good information, sharing what others have to say, etc… Depending on your organization and goals Facebook may be a fine place to start, but it won’t work if all your doing is promoting something. How you use it is what it comes down to. http://twitter.com/franswaa"
- frank barry
Can Social Connectivity be Taught? My Thoughts on Trust Agents - http://www.convinceandconvert.com/social-...
"What’s funny is that I’ve met plenty of social media types who are not the most publicly social people or most social in-person types. It’s odd really. As Chris points out in Trust Agents people have a way of coming out online because it’s not face to face with another person."
- frank barry
Can Social Connectivity be Taught? My Thoughts on Trust Agents - http://www.convinceandconvert.com/social-...
"I love the football speak man. That’s my language! Not everyone can be Randy Moss. That’s pure talent! But everyone can work like Jerry Rice and Vince Carter. Each has been incredibly successful in their own way. Trust Agents helps to team people a lot of things, but I do think you have to really read and think deeply about how to make it practical for you. That’s what Chris does though. He gives you ideas as a starting point and leaves it to you to come up with the actual plan and execution. I’d also say that Trust Agents, while a self help book, is also geared towards people who are already involved with the social web in some way. I rookie would have a hard time knowing what to do if they started with that book. A good coach could help a lot in that case. Good stuff Jay! http://twitter.com/franswaa frank´s last blog ..franswaa: Good Facebook info for nonprofits via @tsudo: "Create A Landing Tab That Converts Visitors Into Fans" http://ff.im/-7vBND"
- frank barry
You should list your phone number in Facebook. I agree with @steverubel that because of the new iPhone app it's become my best address book
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It's weird to me why so many don't list their phone numbers. I've done that for four years and always it has brought me good things. Yeah, a few crank calls here and there but there's ways to defend against that:
- Robert Scoble
me too
- Jesse Stay
1. Only accept calls that have caller ID turned on.
- Robert Scoble
2. Keep your contact list up to date. On my iPhone it shows me the name of someone who has called me before if I put them into my contact list.
- Robert Scoble
I've been using it as my phone book on my ye ole Palm Centro since I got the device. Besides, you should list it on Facebook anyway so you can guiltlessly avoid joining all those "lost my phone" groups that keep popping up; or is that college-age only thing?
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
3. If someone crank calls you, or you get a spam call (I am getting more of those) I change their name to something derogatory and I never accept their calls anymore.
- Robert Scoble
Google Voice number listed in my Facebook profile. No worries.
- Dave Roth
I rarely get calls from strangers even though my number is listed on my blog and on facebook. In fact, it's listed everywhere.
- Shaine Mata
Shaine: it's rare I get calls from anyone, which is just great.
- Robert Scoble
Google Voice number listed. nice touch
- Barry Peters
TrapCall.com check it out!
- Eric
Problem with caller id is cell phones don't broadcast caller id
- Jesse Stay
TrapCall unmasks the caller ID
- Eric
Shaine: but when you need to call someone it works great.
- Robert Scoble
Jesse: it does on mine. I don't know why yours is blocked.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Do you use TrapCall?
- Eric
Robert: on mine the names only show up if you're in my address book for some reason
- Jesse Stay
You get a cell phone call that's caller ID blocked, TrapCall works great! Does anyone know of any other services that unblock the caller ID?
- Eric
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I thougt was happening
- Jesse Stay
I actually called you once in Austin for SXSW. I got you lost. The guy next to me freaked out..."You just called Robert Scoble?" Me: "of course, his number is on his blog".
- Shaine Mata
I wish Google Voice could auto-forward calls that are blocked to a custom voicemail though
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: oh, caller ID only shows the number. Mine will show 425-205-1921. It will only show a name if you've associated that number with a name in contacts.
- Robert Scoble
There is a service called http://www.inumbr.com that provides you with a FREE disposable number, and then http://www.TrapCall.com unmasks unidentified callers.
- Eric
ah, yes - that's exactly what happens to me.
- Jesse Stay
I do like that the new iPhone firmware shows the location of the number though
- Jesse Stay
First time I dont agree with you :)
- tevfik bülent öngün
tevfik: why not?
- Robert Scoble
I agree, the new FB iPhone app is great, good idea about using it as an address book.
- mark taylor
mark: it's really cool because it shows you which of your friends have put their phone numbers in there and gives you an icon you can click on, and you can make the call right from Facebook.
- Robert Scoble
Does it allow you to sync with your phone's address book? For all its glitches, the BlackBerry storm has been syncing contacts across apps for months now. It's pretty cool to see my contacts' facebook icons pop up when I get phone calls.
- Daniel Philp
Daniel: nope, I don't believe it's syncable. But because people keep their Facebook accounts up to date it's the best way to keep your accounts up to date. I wonder, though, if it syncs with Plaxo.
- Robert Scoble
PJ: my number has always been public and nothing bad has happened.
- Robert Scoble
robert: I think that's not much safe for girls and children. please rethink about the abuse and etc
- tevfik bülent öngün
@Daniel - I believe that retrieving phone numbers and email addresses is forbidden by the Facebook API TOS.
- BeauGiles
@tevfik - List it on there, then protect it using friend lists. Eg, only let Family and friends see it. Or, add people you don't know to a friend list and then restrict that friend list from seeing that phone number or other details.
- BeauGiles
Yeah, I've been using this with the Facebook app on BlackBerry. It's a great feature, though only about a quarter of my friends have their number listed.
- Oliver Ortega Chua
@BeauGiles. yeah sure i can do this. but will children care about this?
- tevfik bülent öngün
@tevfik I encourage my friends to do it. Makes it really easy for them also when they get a new phone; stops all of these silly 'I lost my phone; what's your number' groups - they could just pull up the Facebook phone book and grab the numbers from there.
- BeauGiles
tevfik: girls and children are attacked most often by people who are already in the house or who are personal friends. I totally disagree that putting a phone number up will lead to that kind of abuse.
- Robert Scoble
Sekhemets: name one time that someone was attacked because they had their phone numbers put up in public. Just one. Did you realize that in the US we all used to have our phone numbers listed in the phone book? I think the paranoia is crazy.
- Robert Scoble
Wow, I think this is something to think about, Have had my phone on my blog for a few years... never been a problem! Also like the idea of listing my Google Voice number, and may do that...
- WalterAkana
Robert, my AT&T rep said that spammers have every single AT&T phone number - it is clearly not that hard to get someone's phone number if these spammers can get it.
- Jesse Stay
Better yet, list your google voice number. Contribute to the phone book and maintain some layer of privacy/control.
- Drew McKechnie
Robert, syncing with Plaxo would be awesome. That, however, would require a change to the current policy of Facebook, which you and I both know has a history of restrictiveness around contact info sync!
- John McCrea
Sekhemets: there is not a good case to be paranoid about phone numbers. There IS a good case to be paranoid about other personal information, like location or home addresses. But phone numbers? Give me a break.
- Robert Scoble
I get a few calls and several texts every day from people who have discovered my number (I have a tendency to reveal it accidentally on the air). I'd be careful about publishing your number.
- Leo Laporte
If someone calls your phone and stalks you, you have their phone number to give to police.
- Robert Scoble
Leo, do you use Google Voice? That's the only number I ever share, but I'm happy to share it.
- Jesse Stay
Leo: OK, I'll stop stalking YOU and sending you all those texts. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Sekhemets: my friends who don't make their phones public still get sales calls. I get crank calls once in a while. I just hang up. It's not that big a deal. But I do get that being a woman is a bit different. It's just that once you get a call from a number that isn't good you would stop answering. It's that simple.
- Robert Scoble
PJ: I guess if you are going to turn into a spammer then you might not want to put your phone number out there.
- Robert Scoble
I don't post my number because I don't like using the phone - just a communication medium that does not fit me well. My wife and kids and my boss have my cell-phone number. Corporations (those that may remind me if I am late with a bill) get the landline number which I never pick up but check the messages about once a day. If you google my name you can find a dozen other ways to contact...
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- Bora Zivkovic
Bora: I am just like you. I hate the phone. But there are some times when only a phone call will do. And I've seen so many of those times that I've come to believe that anyone who doesn't share their number with their friends is leaving themselves out of lots of opportunities. I remember the time I got on the BBC. Why? They told me they couldn't get anyone at Microsoft PR to wake up but found my phone number.
- Robert Scoble
Good point. I will have to rethink. For someone so public and constantly online, I need my moments of privacy to be private, emotionally, as in 'incommunicado'. It may miss me some opportunities but I feel I need that for mental health. But have to have my cell-phone with me in case my family needs me.
- Bora Zivkovic
Bora: you don't need to answer your phone if you need some away time.
- Robert Scoble
True that. Hard to break the habit of answering automatically whenever it rings.
- Bora Zivkovic
Bora: part of that is having an iPhone which makes you look at it to answer it. That makes you decide whether or not the call is something you need to take right now. My wife and family have their pictures on the phone, so theirs always get answered, if I'm available.
- Robert Scoble
the facebook app is on blackberry too ^_^ also google mobile sync http://www.google.com/mobile... is a similar good product
- Mike Chelen
Bora: if only they supported ringtone sync as well :D
- Mike Chelen
Once I get a Google Voice number and get familiar with the Google Voice features, I may list it as a public phone number. At present, however, my business phone number is only semi-publicized at best, and my home phone number is unlisted. I had some harrassing phone call issues years ago, and another family member had them recently, so it's not worth it to list the more private phone numbers.
- John E. Bredehoft
While Facebook proves that a distributed contact database in which my contacts update their own info is great, I hope that Google Contacts someday will let me give Write authority to everyone in there such that they can update (only) their own records anytime. Then, I'd have a clean, simple updated-by-them Contacts database for all of those folks -- not just my Facebook folks and without all the other Facebook stuff like photos, games, etc. and etc.
- Joel Bush
In addition, I email via Gmail probably 100x as often as via Facebook. Keeping Gmail contact info up to date is key. If I could have the contacts take care of that themselves, as with Facebook, that'd be helpful. Lastly, Gmail search has meant freedom from (Outlook-era) hierarchical folders, so keeping everything in Gmail is fantastic, and receiving forwards from Facebook (with its no-reply) just isn't as clean. So, Facebook proves contact-self-updating cool; let's hope Google goes there, too.
- Joel Bush
Joel: replying through email is one friendfeed feature that facebook could well include. and that is a good point about having contacts update their own info
- Mike Chelen
The automatic sync between my Palm Pre, Google contacts and Facebook keeps my contacts almost flawlessly up to date. Case in point: my friend recently got married and changed her name. When she updated Facebook, My entry for her in my phone automatically updated.
- Mike
I'm in 100% agreement with this. I use a Blackberry, but feel the same way. People keep their info up to date on Facebook for the most part and it sync's to my phone. So do events and birthdays. LOVE it.
- frank barry
I think for this to work for most people, you would need either better trackability from the phone companies, or some kind of screening service integrated into something like Google Voice. I really don't think society is ready for this kind of open information sharing.
- Fergal Barry
"Problem with caller id is cell phones don't broadcast caller id" - umm, then how do you know the incoming number? Maybe you mean the name - ICLID is delivered to your cell phone, CNAM is not, but your cell phone's CNAM is delivered to landline phones. Which can lead to quirks - the name on our family cell phone account is mine, so my wife's cell phone delivers my name to landlines.
- John Craft
I sync my iPhone with GMail contacts, and it works nicely. I also sync it with Facebook, but Facebook's Terms of Service prevent apps from getting my friends phone numbers and putting them into my phone directly. That kinda sorta sucks. Both MyPhone+ and Fex can sync names, birthdays, address info, and photos though. That works nicely.
- Otto
Community Can Be SO Powerful - http://www.chrisbrogan.com/communi...
Being community minded all the time is tough. Especially in the corporate world! Good challenge here.
- frank barry
Evaluating Your Business Ideas - http://www.chrisbrogan.com/evaluat...
Great tips. I need to think through each point more when I'm developing new services offerings.
- frank barry
Best Practices for Corporate Twittering « Social Media Musings by Tom Humbarger - http://tomhumbarger.wordpress.com/2009...
Good tips that all companies using twitter should at least be aware of as they get started with Twitter.
- frank barry
Real-time social wars: where's the money? - http://scobleizer.posterous.com/real-ti...
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- Robert Scoble
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you're on Posterous now? Wonderful! http://zee.posterous.com - follow me will ya! :)
- Zee.
the stream is the answer to everything; engagement, monetization, and analytics
- khrisloux
I followed you, will you follow me? :-)
- Robert Scoble
khrisloux: I disagree. When I am looking for pizza I don't want a stream. I want a list WITH the stream inside.
- Robert Scoble
I'm following you Rob :)
- Jeunelle Foster
If poss I would like to see FB and Google and not FB against Google ,if they will work one with the other we will all have a better world
- Johni Fisher
Jeunelle, I knew I shouldn't have started this. Autofollowing was stupid on Twitter and it'll be stupid here. But I will check you out.
- Robert Scoble
Johni: that's not how this will play out. Facebook wants to be the next Google.
- Robert Scoble
I followed you immediately Mr Scoble :)
- Zee.
It's definitely a crazy space right now. The post helps explain or elaborate (for me) on our very brief conversation from this morning at Shel's. How do you think Google Reader and all the enhancements they've been doing plays into all this. It would seem that they are trying to be more like FriendFeed?
- frank barry
Btw...did you know, you can add tags by typing ((tag: abc, def, ghi)) ? i only found that out today...
- Zee.
consider that one "pans" the steam for signal/gold, using ones social graph, etc... we should look to turn the stream into a gushing river of data that we ride ... the stream is your friend(feed) :)
- khrisloux
frank: Google Reader falls apart for me. They still haven't fixed their speed issues. I hate it. And, anyway, Facebook or Twitter is where I get the news now and it comes in a lot better than Google Reader.
- Robert Scoble
khrisloux: I love the stream as much as anyone, but it does not solve all problems. If I want to find a pizza place in Half Moon Bay the stream is worthless. Now, if you give me a list of four pizza places, each with its own stream, now THAT is huge value!
- Robert Scoble
Robert : FB are soooo far from Google ,Google knows to make money and FB are far years from that ,if we are talking on the real time - Google is going to win it big ,,, FF is with FB as they understood it 2 months before FB
- Johni Fisher
Johni: did you know that Facebook has $500 million in revenues ALREADY per year? Do NOT underestimate this company. It is going all the way.
- Robert Scoble
Now, if you give me a list of four pizza places, each with its own stream.. that is where the money is..
- Tyson
Reader has sped up some with the addition of "PubSubHubbub", but i agree it's not Twitter. Twitter works best for me from a news standpoint. Reader is doing something though. Reader needs some sort of crazy seach or Google needs to push reader "comments", "likes" and "shares" into their search results.
- frank barry
[first i think you should go get dinner!] both views are relevant 1) the aggregated stream of "pizza" and 2) the content level stream for each restaurant ... why should i have to filter/sort/read each restaurants stream when i can manipulate a giant river of pizza (data) with the click of a mouse?
- khrisloux
Tyson: actually that just creates the necessary ingredients for money. The real money is in Yelp's offers. But those will appear right over the stream. :-)
- Robert Scoble
khrisloux: if you give me both we're both happy! :-)
- Robert Scoble
ha! only requires global deployment of Echo ;)
- khrisloux
*walks over to Yelp, opens door and peers in..*
- Tyson
So Twitter and Yelp need to meet eachother ... match made in heaven :)
- frank barry
frank: yelp and Twitter would be a VERY interesting combination. The problem is @ev wants to be a billionaire and Yelp doesn't have enough money and Twitter doesn't have enough money to buy Yelp. So, I don't think that will happen.
- Robert Scoble
Yelp.. no Aussie content :-(
- Tyson
The last line of your post astounded me since I wasn't aware that Facebook had hired a former key employee of Google. When you talk about Gmail or the monetization system at Google there's nothing small or insignificant about it. :)
- James Stratford
Robert :OHH no I dont underestimate them at all but they are THE social community and far from Google ,yes they are the best and the biggST but in the real time I cant see them doing the war against Wave and the integration with Google reader ,Gmail and Google apps ,and reg the FB revenues its great for them if it will help them as well to get profit from that and not to eat it :-))
- Johni Fisher
Yea, Facebook could gobble up Yelp, but that seems far fetched (though they did buy FriendFeed). I see you're point on how it would need to go down. Maybe Twitter will figure out how to make some $ or get more funding. Possible I guess.
- frank barry
Off topic I know, but by the way it's good to see you've adopted Posterous! :)
- James Stratford
If Facebook was thinking (which they obviously have been lately) going after Yelp might just make sense. It would be powerful especially with the iPhone (or mobile world) and people on the go. That sort of falls down because of the type of sharing that goes on within FB though. Twitter is much more "open" and the "culture" of the users is more about sharing/giving than I see in FB. Twitter/Yelp wins on use ... let's see if we can make them figure it out =)
- frank barry
Johni: Google Wave is too geeky and the interface is too complicated. It won't get mainstream acceptance.
- Robert Scoble
Was just looking for your posterous last week. Glad to see you there now.
- Katy Barrilleaux
I can't believe I was on posterous.com before Scoble!
- Prokofy Neva
I am relieved to hear you say Google Wave will remain too geeky and not get mainstream acceptance because it is the great destoyer of chronology. You know how time is so that everything doesn't happen at once, and space is so it doesn't happen all at once *to you*? Well, that's what Google Wave removes.
- Prokofy Neva
Good to see you on Posterous!
- Ahad Bokhari
The commenting system on posterous blows. I can't fix my terrible typos :(. Robert what advantage do you gain from posting on poseterous over your blog?
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
1. I use Google to search for everything. I never think to search Facebook, unless I know someone is on there for sure - i.e a friend. 2. Posterous is good for 'quick and dirty' posts, and great for grabbing and snatching stuff from emails etc.
- Ian May
What happens when I can't sleep? I sign up for Posterous. I blame @steverubel for this since he pushed on me most of yesterday to do it.
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I don't like how it posts everywhere. I gotta think about how I'll use that.
- Robert Scoble
yay! it's about the time,, i should check my posterous too,, been away for a while ;p
- zʍıɔ
Robert: Welcome! If you don't like duplicity, just cancel the auto-post.
- Nir Ben Yona
nobody took scobleizer at posterous before? I thought you always register your name on new web services as they show up, because of cybersquatter.
- fakedave
fakedave: I try to get it on most services, but sometimes I miss one.
- Robert Scoble
After every visit with Steve Rubel you need to have a visit with Jeremiah Owyang to put you back on track ;-) IMO Posterous decentralizes the conversation.
- Jesse Stay
28 subscribers already! u go robert (^^;)
- zʍıɔ
And I'm writing my next Posterous entry as I read this. (Oh yeah: I subscribed and left a comment. ;)
- Dennis Jernberg
@fakedave : chris messina beats him on this.haha!
- zʍıɔ
Malvina: Chris beats me on everything.
- Robert Scoble
enough already, another way to post stuff to all the destinations that are out there, sheeeeezzz :-)
- Alexander van Elsas
Posterous also provides a way to control and delegate the posting activity to other email addresses - its just a pity it uses the delegated's services config by default with no option to use the delegator's instead - so the distribution is not maintained according to the blog but according to who makes the post instead - both options would be perfect
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
Nicholas -- we've been talking about adding this capability as a 'group profile' that you can set up for a particular blog. It'll be coming in a future release.
- Garry Tan
how are you liking it so far? i signed up, but have yet to really use it.
- frank barry
Robert, you can easily control the flow. Here's how i do it: all mails go to posterous+facebook@posterous.com. The Feed linked into FF via RSS import. Once FF picks it up. it sends these to Twitter. This avoids dupes.
- Steve Rubel
The problem with Posterous to FriendFeed is that you'll need to reshare it again if you want to import to any FF groups. After a lengthy trial of Posterous I found FF to be more powerful in the end :-\
- CannonGod
I just realized yesterday that friendfeed@posterous.com only forwards to FF. cool stuff.
- Gus
5 Essential Tips for Promoting Your Charity Using Social Media - http://mashable.com/2009...
Critical to nonprofit social media success for sure.
- frank barry
Listening Literacy For Nonprofits
| Brian Solis: Social Media Expert - PR 2.0 - http://www.briansolis.com/2009...
Very useful post for pretty much anyone who wants to learn more about how to listen to the online conversation.
- frank barry
Develop a Social Media Strategy in 7 Steps - http://www.convinceandconvert.com/social-...
"Great thought process. Thanks for sharing the very useful information with the rest of us. What i love about your worksheet is that it really makes it simple to get people started with thinking/planning. Nice! http://twitter.com/franswaa frank´s last blog ..franswaa: Develop a Social Media Strategy in 7 Steps http://ff.im/-700pD"
- frank barry
Develop a Social Media Strategy in 7 Steps - http://www.convinceandconvert.com/social-...
This is a great worksheet. Thanks!
- frank barry
Beth's Blog: How Nonprofits Can Use Social Media: Four Things I Learned from NTEN Ask Expert With Joe Green from Causes (and one thing I didn't) - http://beth.typepad.com/beths_b...
Good tips by @kanter
- frank barry
Productivity and Time Wasters in Social Media - http://altitudebranding.com/2009...
"Email and poor meetings are my big 2 time sucks! I also hate the phone =), but have to deal. Once tactic I use it to not respond to the phone and then email people back to let them know. It’s a training of sorts. Obviously I can’t always do this, but it has worked in places. As far as social media goes i think a big time waster “can” be leaving everything open and/or having all the notifications running. I know there is a place for this stuff, but if you have everything open and alerting you all the time then getting real work done gets tough. Unless your job is monitoring things - in this case you’re all good. Good post Amber. Thank you for sharing your personal way of attacking this challenge. http://twitter.com/franswaa"
- frank barry
If everyone leaves FriendFeed I will have all of its Google Juice to myself! Check this out: http://www.google.com/search...
Jannifer @wordsforliving, Ahad Bokhari, Kol Tregaskes and 26 other people liked this
I just posted that a few minutes ago and already it is in Google. Wild.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
"Horse Piss Beer on Flickr" an interesting result.
- Dean Clark
Dean: yeah there are some fun results there, huh?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
That's what will suck it everyone moves to facebook as friendfeed's features get integrated, there is pretty much no Google Juice on Facebook. Too many privacy barriers...things might change though.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Dude you are crazy!! Good point though =)
- frank barry
Not leaving until they kick me out.
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
Like many other people, I think best route is for friendfeed to go Open Source. Then we could keep it going.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
This is fleeting. Google always rushes to over-index the vogue site of the day. they did this at one point with myspace profiles, then youtube comments, etc .. http://bit.ly/DoFQI
- Derek Pangallo
I'm not going anywhere. You'll have to share the google kool aid with me.
- shaun mclane
Shaun: go away! :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I've always wanted to rank for "Octomom eats neighbor's dog." - And NO - I'm NOT leaving. Don't make me speak Russian to you. :)
- shaun mclane
That was QUICK! http://www.google.com/search...
- shaun mclane
Shaun: yeah Google is indexing a lot faster. By the way that was funny!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
No way am I leaving all this fun to you Scoble....slide over and give me some room :)
- Ken
OK. Just pass those potatoes and peas. We're not leaving.
- Brenda Young
Um, you got some Google Juice on My Yahoo!
- Mistletoe Glen
Who said anything about leaving? And what the heck is Horse PIss beer? Sounds revolting..
- Sandra Large
SPURspectives - http://spurspectives.com/how-soc...
"I also see social media forcing companies to innovate around how they do business with their customers as well as in their product development (if it’s a company with a web based product). Even if you’re just “listening” and watching you’ll be forced to make decisions on whether or not to add that new feature or engage with your customer where they are. Social media is (or can be) a great accelerator! http://twitter.com/franswaa"
- frank barry
Seth's Blog: How to get traffic for your blog - http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_b...
Blogging tips .... i love how some are exact opposites of others. great point.
- frank barry
Wild Apricot Blog : 100 Online Tools for Non-Profits - http://www.wildapricot.com/blogs...
Very nice list of online tools for nonprofits.
- frank barry
Twitter is down. Oh, what will the SEO experts, the celebrities, the spammers, the bots, and the social media experts do?
Asha Tampa, Bruce Lerner, Laurentiu and 221 other people liked this
Come to FF!
- Simon Wicks
Give Friendfeed a shot?
- Rubin Sfadj
Hang out on FF
- Roberto Bonini
Hopefully they don't come to FriendFeed :)
- Robert J Taylor
they will spam friendfeed instead?
- Denis
They are so freeeking out.
- SolidSmack
I couldn't tweet about it, so I told my wife instead.
- Patrick Lightbody
Big ups to the FriendFeed massive!
- Josette Torres
I tried retweeting that. *sigh*
- Andy McIlwain
Call them to join friendfeed, and make
- Madhav Tripathi
Hopefully FF won't get killed by the Tweeters flocking over here.
- phil baumann
ok.. here ya go..twitter being down has forced me here. Haven;t tried FF yet so...
- cheapsuits
just like ya possibly twiddle their thumbs...
- Baba
I suspect the bots will rejoice....
- walidmREALTOR
Let's see where these so-called "social media experts" go to fill the void of Twitter.
- Christian
I can't open twitzap.com
- ybs
Can FF servers manage such a massive movement?
- Samuel Goëta
since bots supply at least 25% of Twitter traffic, should we feel the worst for them right now?
- Kevin Norman
write a post about twitter being down as a threat to humanity, may be?:)
- Nikos Anagnostou
Twitter down... can't post on Facebook,,. so it's FriendFeed!
- carrotmadman6
So your're not responsible for that ? Strange... :-)
- Enikao
lay on the floor and spin in circles
- SolidSmack
Maybe the SocMedExperts will go back to Plurk since Scoble likes Friendfeed. :)
- Jay Gilmore
thank God, now we can get back to work
- E.P. Scott
if they are the experts they claim to be then they should be here!
- Mark V. Fusco
Facebook seems frakked too.
- Gregg Le Blanc
I get tweet trough tweetdeck...
- Giorgio
I need serious help with FF. For an idiot like me this isn't so intuitive really. Help section is nice but I need someone to hold my hand ..bleeech. Don't get me wrong I am sorry I was reluctant to try FF before
- cheapsuits
I blame Scoble. It's always his fault :-)
- Keith Barrett
but how am I going to tell the world I need a cup of tea???? nooooooo
- Rachel Clarke
Giorgio - I'm seeing some activity through the Twitter API, too (that's what TweetDeck uses, I believe); not a lot, but some
- Robert J Taylor
I thought it was just my connection. ;-) I'm also having problems with Facebook today.
- Timothy Federwitz
yeah, it seems the web interface is down but the api is working..
- Giorgio
I think the social media experts are going to spend the next hour talking about Twitter being down
- Keith Barrett
Maybe read a book for a change?
- Yiorgos Adamopoulos
Scoble's followers where the glue keeping Twitter together! now that he's 'pulled the pin' and released them all, Twitter has fallen down and can't get up.
- MikeAmundsen
Seems to me like some sort of an (DDoS) attack on Twitter and Facebook.
- Jari Hakkarainen
I'm so lost this morning without my cup-o-Twitter
- frank barry
You broke it Bob! All this follow/unfollow madness.
- ZuDfunck
They'll comment on it, much like I just did.
- Marlin Forbes
Man imagine if this had happened on #followfriday...
- Rob Paller
Yiorgas: read a book for a change? I do that anyway, but only about 10/month. need more twitter time to balance it out
- Rachel Clarke
Facebook is copying twitter too closely...even to going down at the same time
- Robert Littlejohn
Does Twitter have what it takes to be a big player? We've been working with their API on a project and every time there is something out of whack. Anyone else have the same issues?
- Chris Nadeau
twitter is really down, I think twitter itself should have a site that tweets when it's down :)
- Ata İsmet Özçelik
They will use FF to inform their friend that twitter is down
- Didier Girard
They'll use Identi.ca ;)
- Nicholas James
No actually the blog: http://status.twitter.com/ ("We are determining the cause and will provide an update shortly.")
- Patrick Mackaaij
Show up here I'm thinking. :-)
- Dion Hinchcliffe
Huge exodus to FF!
- akihito
We will start feeding friends and keeping up our identi.ca 's
- JuneM
They're probably crying so loud right now that they can't do a thing ;-)
- Caio Cesar
What's been the longest twitter outage on record thus far?
- Dusty Edenfield
hmm at least they found a solution with a blog :)
- Ata İsmet Özçelik
I don't understand why you maintain an account when you have such contempt for Twitter & those who use it.
- Liz
they will cry in their soup
- Bobby Griffith
holiday
- Ronald
it's back up. made ya look
- Kevin Norman
Strangely, search.twitter.com is up.
- Marlin Forbes
Tokyo: I already have a private group setup. Sort of like a bomb shelter in case the rats take over.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
i noticed that twitter is down... anyone know how facebook is ssOOO slow 2...????
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Just noticed it...
- k00pa
do not waste time and do their job :D
- Roldano
twitter outage and news of the PubSubHubbub feature in Google Reader (http://is.gd/24YvH) make FF look pretty good right now.
- Dusty Edenfield
facebook too! i guess i'm going to have to do something like "get a life" which is abhorrent to me... ^_^
- Kayce Maisel
friendfeed is having some issues but for the most part is still up and going :)
- (jeff)isageek
find another medium such as friendfeed ;).
- rick
Roger, Mr. Scoble!
- akihito
@Sebastian they connected somehow... ahhh scary :)
- Dani Martínez
good. so not the only one with issues with FB.. wel atleast is FF is going strong..
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
what we all are going to do??? =) but if seriously i remember this video on youtube - trouble with twitter: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- obolonskyi
They will all sit in their chair and stare at their monitor!
- Gabe Diaz
@Dani, who knows... the might merge or something... explain the strange twitter is pulling fb down 2..
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Did Scoble bring Twitter and FB down as he unfollowed everyone ? winks -)
- Del_
This is still up... even this FF tweet. http://search.twitter.com/search...
- Johann Chiang
In the event that twitter goes down I tend to frequent FF more.
- © b e e n s w a n k
This is very interesting that it is impacting more than one social network ... can't even speculate what the cause is yet. Not getting much work done today I'm afraid, going to be following these conversations..
- Joe Magennis
I haven't been on twitter for days. I guess I picked the wrong morning to jump back in.
- Jeff Stannard
Robert: The most important question>> How many new sign-ups for FF today?
- K.N. Ajit Narayan
...and who wins? FF great :)
- Dani Martínez
Was just able to post to Facebook but took several tries. Wow. FF FTW!
- Tom Guarriello
so!!
- abdellah
The smart ones will go to FriendFeed ;)
- Helene
The spammers should go to MySpace...
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
Tweeple will come to FriendFeed!
- LauraLee Dooley
That's why I joined FF a while back. Then I found all the useful features- and the bonus is having Scoble here to show the way.
- Brenda Young
No, the smart ones are ALREADY on FriendFeed :)
- Susan Beebe
and?
- abdellah
@obolonskyi nice. vid.. ROFL... never seen it before...
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
GUILTY ! I have had a FF account for awhile just never used it--
- cheapsuits
What the celebrities like you do. Talk about it on Twitter.
- Tad Chef
This actually made me laugh out loud, because I was thinking the same thing!
- Dan
This kind of reminds me of a line from Office Space: "I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. Shit. I always do that. I always mess up some mundane detail."
- Jari Hakkarainen
haha lets get FF down also :D
- Salim Sarımurat
Could this mean that CNBC was right??? Nooooooooooo!
- Travis Koger
I was planning to unfollow a bunch of followers due to Twitter's follow limit rule kicking in at the ~#2000 user level. I have to wait with that then... ;)
- Martin Lindeskog
FF FTW
- Eran Even-Kesef
Is the Twitter bubble bursting?
- Travis Tasset
Let's see how well Friendfeed handles this Twitter outage :)
- Rene Silva
Re previous comment of mine, 'Nooooooo!' was for CNBC being right, not that twitter is dead. ;)
- Travis Koger
life goes on
- Eran Even-Kesef
Hey don't tell anyone about this FF thing, its our little secret
- Jeff Wiant
Twitter better be back up by the time Rick Sanchez is on CNN this afternoon or he won't know what to talk about ;)
- cjcubs
telnet 80 twitter.com ?
- Gordon Joly
@gordon wont work
- k00pa
FF was down for me for about 10 min just now.
- Dusty Edenfield
Blogger's having some trouble as well
- Crispin Heath
No address associated with nodename (twitter.com)
- Gordon Joly
If friend feed ever gets as popular as twitter were will everyone go to to avoid the popular crowd?
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
Panic?
- Dean Clark
@scobleizer I'm seeing issues with twitter and facebook. Social website attack?
- Michael Fierro
Panic? Aren't we all used to this already? :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
if this is the North Koreans with a coordinated attack I WILL laugh
- cheapsuits
@scobleizer I'm seeing issues with twitter and facebook. Social website attack?
- Michael Fierro
Robert, please follow back 106,000 and everything will be ok))) joke =)
- obolonskyi
I can not play 140mafia!!! This sucks sooooo bad :(
- Sam Beckett
Twitter outage is causing issues with both facebook and friendfeed. I guess we know where everyone is going instead of twitter.
- April Russo (app103)
facebook? no way :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
Twitter being down is a a relief to me this morning! Now I can stay OFF it rather than fitting it into every 30 second change of task! n
- Arleen Anderson
at this rate they will have to start sending out junk mail via the post office again... oh the humanity
- Terry Bruce
Let's all chat on Friendfeed
- johnpiercy
from iPhone
Nothing seems to work, I think it will be the Friend Feed greatest traffic boost ever
- Jacob Kobi Gamliel
guys, is it Ddos attack? or smth like that? as I understand twitter is hosting somewhere and this datacenter is down. am i right?
- obolonskyi
FriendFeed traffic is rocking now...
- Jacob Kobi Gamliel
social media "experts" might need to actually find other work to do.
- Luis Sandoval
thanks God, Youtube is working
- obolonskyi
More info needed. Where is there an alternate feed to real time news?
- SenderOK
seems unlikely I'll do anything productive in the interim
- WarLord
Hopefully they will move to FF :)
- Martynas
it could be ff provocation
- obolonskyi
I feel like we are all stranded on a tropical Island together
- Jeff Wiant
was afraid for a moment that out IT blocked all social networks or something horrible like that. Thank god FF came back up quickly. This might have gotten me to use FF more. I often neglect it.
- Ryan Cummins
Wondered why tweetdeck wasn't loading anything. actually got some programming work done. lol
- Justin Long
friendfeed rules!
- Kevin Dolan
twits will move, but only until twitter is back online, then there will be a mass exodus. Remember during all of the 2007/2008 fail whales users still flocked back to it regardless.
- Travis Koger
Twitter, Facebook, now Posterous... 4chan organize an attack or something?
- Sam Harrelson
from IM
Thank goodness FF is still working. :)
- 3Cinteractive, L.L.C.
from twhirl
Friendfeed + Facebook :)
- Rafa Lacerda
From status.twitter.com: "Site is down 1 hour ago. We are determining the cause and will provide an update shortly."
- Martin Lindeskog
Having issues with Facebook as well as Twitter. Can sign into FB but unable to go to anyones profiles- process just hangs
- outofmyarse
chinese attack? :)
- Roldano
Touché Robert, Touché
- Jeff Woelker
from twhirl
"We are defending against a denial-of-service attack, and will update status again shortly." from Twitter Status
- Kurt Jarchow
North Koreans I tell ya....
- cheapsuits
took inordinate amount of time to get into ff today as well
- A Zmaj
Hmmm DoS attack...someone wanting a ransom from Twitter?
- Mike Gargano
Guess they'll have to either pick up the phone or do some work :)
- Graham Bunting
Can someone with 94k followers really mock the the celebs and experts devoid of Twitter?
- Augie Ray
Hey, no bogus follow messages in my inbox for a while! ;-)
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
This is teaching us something about the framework of the current Internet traffic patterns. We're watching cascade scale problems from one major Internet program going down.
- Melanie Reed
Facebook is giving up the ol', "Transport error (#1001) while retrieving data from endpoint `/ajax/inline_comments.php': A network error occurred. Check that you are connected to the internet" message now.
- 3Cinteractive, L.L.C.
from twhirl
I think this is bigger than Twitter and FB... I think it's some interweb routes or something. I had a VoIP call going with a party local to me and two across the country and I lost the two across the country, but maintained the local party. And others are commenting on other sites showing signs of outages.
- Timothy Federwitz
from Alert Thingy
Twitter is Down....panic..run.,,SOS!
- Veetrag
Yeah, had all the characteristics of a DDoS attack. What do perpetrators of such attacks get from doing that, I've never understood.
- Jari Hakkarainen
What will they do? Use FriendFeed!
- Chuck Huckaby
It's official. Twitter's problem is a DoS attack per twitter/status.
- Roger Jennings
shhhh they'll come here
- andy brudtkuhl
The real bummer for me is, now I actually have to listen to the radio to get the word of the day!
- Travis Owen
is twitter connected with FB or Friendfeed? I am having page errors with both, Ajax issues with FB intermittently , I am no tech geek so I have no clue whats up and come here to learn
- lisa coultrup
Status Blog says "We are defending against a denial-of-service attack." Mmmm... http://status.twitter.com/post...
- akihito
Friendfeed it is then.
- Aren Grimshaw
Now, It's up!
- Martin Sliacky
Posterous isn't working properly either, at least for me.
- Steven Melfi
http://status.twitter.com/post... We are defending against a denial-of-service attack, and will update status again shortly.
- Zalt Woo
What does DoS mean?
- Kimberle Kelly
denial of service
- Justin Long
I meant what does denial of service mean? (dumb blonde here sorry)
- Kimberle Kelly
If it's true..or is it propaganda?
- Alex Schleber
It's down, again.
- Martin Sliacky
Tracing route to twitter.com [168.143.162.100] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 172.16.1.1 2 25 ms 29 ms 28 ms lo1.br57.fra.de.hansenet.net [213.191.64.45] 3 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms ae1-252.prju01.fra.de.hansenet.net [62.109.64.13 7] 4 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms fra32-hansenet-3.fra.seabone.net [89.221.34.61] 5 120 ms 119 ms 195 ms ash1-new50-racc1.ash.seabone.net [195.22.206.2] 6 125 ms...
more...
- Zalt Woo
Thank you :o)
- Kimberle Kelly
DoS on large portions of the internet. Is this 4Chan... Chinese... N. Korea... durkadurkastan...
- Ryan Cummins
now having trouble getting to Friendfeed
- Justin Long
look, few days ago Clinton back home with two imprisoned american journalists from North Korea and today Korea is attacking twitter? it is revenge)))
- obolonskyi
maybe Robert's great unFollowing crashed the servers... no loss! Go FF
- Jay Shapiro
from BuddyFeed
some government is DDOS'ing the real-time internet to cover up something :-) http://leeprovoost.posterous.com/the-twi...
- Lee Provoost
hmmm
- abdellah
As I said, I predict a baby-boom in 9 months... wait and see!
- Jordi Soler
SEO Experts can analyze their charts, celebrities and wannabe's can entertain us with video (maybe some cool Twitter Whore like stuff) , and social media experts can quickly become Fail Whale Experts.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
@Lee Provost don't you thing you're going to be a little apocaliptic ? :-)
- Filippo Ronco
Twitter downing has to be a lesson for all of us. if sometimes gmail or even google will be down. what we all are going to do in that situation???
- obolonskyi
@Filippo i've been suprised many times that reality is often more wacked up than the conspiracy theories of geeks :-p
- Lee Provoost
I'm hoping the social media experts go away and do something useful.
- Parvez Halim
@Lee this is true too :-)
- Filippo Ronco
@Jordi LOL, considering that there are a vast amount of single male computer geeks out there in the twitter community, baby boom effect might be negligible :-D
- Lee Provoost
what is bad here? here doesnt exist reply button =(
- obolonskyi
@Lee single male computer geeks - LOL))
- obolonskyi
The realtime updates of the comments is great. FF rulez. Would be better though to have the comment link not on top
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
Go back to MySpace?
- Juliana
Maybe some will switch to FF if twitter is down for a while
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
The twitter bots are rebelling
- Charles
@Flynn, go check out this Greasemonkey script, solves it: http://userscripts.org/scripts...
- Alex Schleber
Come here and moan about it!
- Kami Huyse
Read post on 100k unfollow - I love how people are commenting and blaming Twitter being down on that! lol
- Helene
@AlexSchleber: thanks, great :)
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
AAANND.. it's back. At least for a moment I guess..
- Alex Schleber
AAANND it's GONE! ..Again. At least I managed to send out a quick FriendFeed SOS, as in: "Still think you shouldn't have all of your favorite tweeps in a "backup system" on FriendFeed? Join here: www.friendfeed.com/alexschleber "
- Alex Schleber
Either collapse or back to use their phones in voice only mode, do some shopping, get eye to eye contact ... Blame god, and then. Give a serious try on FF ;p
- Marco ILLESCAS
from iPhone
They will still be able to Tweet to themselves - not sure if they will realize it is down until it comes back up.
- Phil Harrison
I hope everyone will be ok...lol
- April Mendez
Hey, can I hang out here on FF while my Twitter is down :)
- Kevin Krewell
Welcome to FF Kevin! You can tweet from here too!
- Arleen Anderson
Thanks Arleen. I hear all the kool kids hang out here now - like Scoble and you!
- Kevin Krewell
I'm glad I joined FF yesterday, great timing!
- CodeSamurai
I also micro-blog or create my own Twitter, but in more than 140 characters.
- polou/indigo_bow
FF and Tumblr are working fine! :-)
- Tim Moore
A good FF day- new familiar faces on this thread.
- E-Advocate Network
What will the blackhat SEO experts, the SM spammers, and the social media experts do during a widespread outage? The answer is obvious: While sitting out the crisis they're fine-tuning their methodology. Seriously, your question offends me. There's a gazillion of SEO experts out there who do not abuse social media.
- Sebastian
Sebastian there can't be a gazillion SEO experts! What's 10,000 keywords times 20?? (and that's being generous!)
- Arleen Anderson
Would a social media expert consider it to be a crisis? If they rely so heavily on just one or two tools that it's enough to throw them into a tizzy, their expert status would seem to me to be ... questionable, at best.
- Gord McLeod
Agreed.
- Greg
Arleen, 10,000 keyword phrases times 20 is a tiny fraction of the search terms that are worth optimizing for. Think of the long tail. Also, consider lots of webmasters and even publishers / site owners / bloggers / Web developers ... SEO experts who are able to optimize their stuff quite successfully but don't sell or publish their expertise. Many of them, and even many SEO consultants, do make sensible use of social media, as plain users.
- Sebastian
Gord, in a social media spammer's book 2 hours of outage, IOW 2 hours w/o sales from sneakily distributed links to questionable sales pitches, can sum up to way more than a good day's beer money. ;) However, "crisis" might be a term too strong for this potential loss.
- Sebastian
+1 Sebastian
- Bill Sodeman
I'm hung up on hop 12!
- bev
I love FF!
- John Giglio
come to Friend Feed? Not
- Rob Cairns
You must be dying of laughter now Robert!
- Arleen Anderson
Arleen: yes, reading this is fun. Sebastien SEO types are so easy to wind up. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Gotta love it... @RobCairns says "come to Friend Feed? Not" and then his page shows ONE POST from Twitter in the past 18 hours! And that one talks about how Twitter seems to be slowing down again! (Sorry Rob, but that's just too good to let pass!)
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Robert, admit it, you broke Twitter by massively unfollowing people. The DDoS attack reports have just been a ruse to cover up the fact that you were the backbone of Twitter all this time.
- Louis Trapani
Louis: that is true. I pissed the bots off.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Keep running into the wall a few times then find alternate outlets such as ff, linkedIn, etc...
- Kirsten Mitchell
from iPhone
Looks like the devious plan to move everyone to FF is working well. LOL :)
- Geer
Ha! The whole Facebook Twitter slowdown may have been just people clicking on spam (not a DDoS botnet). How funny! Manual DDoS. See Bill Woodcock's theory at CNet, AP, SF Gate, and The Register http://ff.im/6gLmO
- Mitchell Tsai
There you go again implying the only ones that use twitter is SEO experts, the celebrities, the spammers, the bots, and the social media experts - This is definitely SPIN. Perhaps you should join CNN also LOL
- RetiredTeacherD
Ironic, given your status as a celebrity social media expert who constantly spams about bots... :-P
- David Kettler
Now they'll have time to shower and do their laundry!
- Ron Hagenhoff
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