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Scoble, Alex Scoble
My famous brother...what a cad. Instead of congratulating us on buying a new car, he made the same mistake of telling us to buy something else and being quite wrong about it too. Pretty funny really.
You should have bought a Sienna or a Prius. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
You would've bought his suggestion and, in two months, he would've had a new favorite car and his old suggestion would've been outdated and behind-the-times. - Shawn Farner
So you made the right move by going with your choice. - Shawn Farner
LOL Shawn. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Oh, snap! - Scoble, Alex Scoble
He was your brother before he was famous and I would assume you know his personality, it really THAT surprising? - Derrick
Yes, Derrick, to be honest, it is surprising. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Shut it down. Shawn won the thread. - Spidra Webster
It's a fairly common reaction by friends to a new purchase, I call it buyers remorse by osmosis - WarLord
He doesn't like your choice cause he can't cram all his sheeple in the back so they can all admire how well he drives - Johnny from iPhone
Hehe, Johnny, both of our choices in cars fit the same amount of people. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
It's OK. I was talking cars with him a few weeks ago and had to try very hard to not troll him about his Prius-love. - Wirehead
Yeah, for me, the dash of the Prius makes it a non-starter. The dash of the Insight is truly superb. I think they totally had gamers in mind when the designed it. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I'm a Toyota driver at the moment, but I've always been a Honda fan. Practicality be damned, I want a CR-Z. The wiener dog can still ride shotgun. :) - teleken from BuddyFeed
Yeah, the CR-Z is one fun looking car. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I haven't bought a new car in a long time, but it seems any time I get a gadget, I get an army of fanboys telling me that I bought the wrong thing, or at least asking me why I bought it, as if no one in their right mind could have possibly wanted what I got. When someone does this, it's usually just a way to make them feel better about what they currently have, or at least what they're... more... - ax0n
Your famous brother is a great guy; he is just terrible at predicting things. - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
Prius love sounds pretty Freudian. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
Alex, may I just say, congratulations on buying a new car? - Stephen Mack
every time this goes by in my stream, I laugh at Alex calling his brother a cad. *grin* - holly #ravingfangirl
Thanks, Stephen, and glad that at least one of my threads makes you smile, Holly. :) - Scoble, Alex Scoble from YouFeed
You could just remind him that the wide variety of car producers and the wide variety of car types they produce exist because they satisfy the varying needs and tastes of different buyers. There isn't one "best" car. You picked the car that best fit your criteria. I imagine he did the same. Or is this too much reason for the Scoble boys? - Soup in a TARDIS
Your level of reason is making my head hurt...what was the question? - Scoble, Alex Scoble from YouFeed
I congratulate Alex for buying a Honda :) - imabonehead
Being Italian I ask: Why not a FIAT? [Duch and cover behind the couch] - Xabaras (G.O.)
I don't think FIAT currently sells many cars to the US, Xabaras - Scoble, Alex Scoble
(no problem, I got a Mercedes Benz). - Xabaras (G.O.)
Geoff: yes. :-) And Alex, give me a break. You do shit like this all the time. I remember giving you a Cigar, rated one of the best by several people and brands, like Cigar Aficionado, and you thinking it was no big deal. - Robert Scoble
Kevin: Prius is outselling Honda's hybrid by a huge margin. Why? Well, Prius' drivetrain is a lot better designed. It better be, Toyota's been doing it a lot longer. - Robert Scoble
Soup: Alex and I argue about nearly everything. What's funny is he calls me a cad for doing it. Might I remind him of all the times he's argued with me about my purchases? - Robert Scoble
Yes, the Prius couldn't be outselling the Insight at all because Toyota makes more of them. Also, it's completely unfair to compare sales numbers right now since the Prius is made in the US and the Insight is made in Japan. Honda can't keep up with demand on the Insight or the Odyssey right now because of the recent earthquake/tsunami. And Robert, have you sat in a 2011 Prius? The dash... more... - Scoble, Alex Scoble
The dash on the Insight is really one of the best I've ever seen. Absolutely no comparison there between the Insight and the Prius. That plus the fact that there's really no MPG advantage, plus price is why I bought the Insight. I don't care about adaptive cruise control nor automatic parking. I can drive my car myself, thank you very much. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Ahhh, brotherly love. You're sibling squabbling, I've missed this on FF, you two are so different from each other :) - sofarsoShawn
I have not found it to take appreciably longer to get gas in Oregon than it does in California. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from YouFeed
Either that or the pace of life is slower up here so we don't care about losing a minute here or there. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from YouFeed
Sometimes I wish Robert Scoble was my dad... I LOVE ROBERT SCOBLE! - sofarsoShawn
My Prius was made in Japan. I have no idea where my brother gets his info. Also, my Prius has radar-safety features, like these demonstrated by Ford: I don't think Honda has those yet. Amazing to watch an American company out-innovate a Japanese one. - Robert Scoble
Alex: I own a 2010 Prius which is exactly the same as the 2011 one. And I was one of the first people to get to drive a 2012 model: I've put 36,000 miles on my Prius and never once said "this dash is ugly or doesn't show me what I want." - Robert Scoble
You have no clue what you are talking about, Robert. I sat in a Prius yesterday and the dash is a complete fucking mess. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from YouFeed
You might be brothers but y'all obviously have different tastes in vehicle interiors. And that's perfectly fine, right? - That's So CAJ!
No, this goes beyond taste to well designed ergonomics. Anyone who can sit in a new Prius with its monochrome dash where all the data is stuck together with no visual cues as to what's what and a lot of technical symbology that doesn't intuitively mean anything and say that it's a well thought out and designed dash is either full of shit, biased or just doesn't have a clue what good design looks like. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Very funny, Cristo. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from YouFeed
And here I thought there were multiple manufacturers and models of cars to appeal to the vastly different tastes of people worldwide. :) - That's So CAJ!
There are CAJ, but Robert's argument that the dash on the Prius is good is absolutely indefensible, particularly when compared to the dash in the Insight. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from YouFeed
I'm now running an FFsource experiment: - That's So CAJ!
In fact, I would have to say that the Prius dashboard is one of the absolute worst dashboard designs that I've ever seen. It is just so bad. Toyota really does a disservice to the rest of the car with that dashboard. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from YouFeed
Not a valid experiment for our argument since you didn't find pictures of just the dashboards. You can't even see what each one displays. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from YouFeed
Well, I'd argue the whole dashboard is required due to the Prius design. However, there were no images to directly compare display information for the Prius to that of the image available for the Insight. - That's So CAJ!
Also you asked the wrong asked which interior layout people prefer. You didn't ask which dashboard they think is better designed from an ergonomic standpoint. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from YouFeed
I think I finally see the crux of your argument. You're not talking about what looks better but what works better. The question I asked in my post shows my interpretation of what you were saying. Ergonomics aren't always pretty. :) - That's So CAJ!
Also you really need to drive both cars to see why the Insight dash is so good and why the Prius is so bad. Pictures don't show you all the information that the Insight provides as you drive. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from YouFeed
Yep, ergonomics is about giving the most information where it can best be viewed. The Insight gives speed info right at eye view of the driver. You see how fast you are going and whether you are accelerating or braking too aggressively (area around speed changes color from dark green, meaning driving ecoconsciously, to dark blu, meaning driving wastefully). The tac is big and easy to read. The fuel and temp gauges are also easy to read and the multi-function display is also easy to view and switch. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from YouFeed
Why does a tach matter on CVT? (honest question) - Jeff (Team マクダジ )
Torque Converter? - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
The engine is a VTEC engine, Jeff, so knowing what the engine RPM is helps, plus you can put it in manual mode and shift with the toggle shifters. Same as with the Subaru Outback. And no, Jimminy, no torque converters are involved. And even though it's a CVT, it still has the concept of gears that it can change at will based on the various modes you can put the car in. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from YouFeed
It can carry lots of groceries, yes, Geoff. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from YouFeed
" I sat in a Prius yesterday and the dash is a complete fucking mess." Wow, I must be seeing something on my Prius' dashboard that Alex isn't seeing. I never got wound up about dashboards. I DO get wound up about radar, though. That shit could save my life. - Robert Scoble
This review is dead on By the way, Robert forgets to mention the significant cost that Toyota requires to offer the radar feature on their cars. That feature package makes both the Prius and Sienna cost many thousands of dollars more than the Insight or Odyssey. That one feature isn't at all worth the cost, regardless of the mental machinations that Robert performs to justify it. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
See, the radar anti-collision and adaptive cruise control scares the crap out of me. Much like the A340 flies itself until the computer shits itself in the middle of a storm and the pilots fail to recover from a stall all 34,000 feet down to the ocean surface, a driver reliant upon the radar features is going to be safe until the catastrophic accident. - Wirehead
If you don't want to drive, move to where there's good public transit and don't drive. Just sayin'. - Wirehead
I also contend that the reason Robert cares so much about adaptive cruise and collision detection is that he's too busy texting and blogging while driving. Put down the phone and focus on the road! ;-) - Chris Greene
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We need a recruiting drive for FriendFeed. We need some fresh blood. Honestly, I've been poking around on some alternative platforms and they all still suck compared to FriendFeed. It's the best technical solution out there right now, IMO and I don't think I'm alone. It's the community that's dying, not the service. Breathe new life into it.
Akiva described the problem ( and science confirms it ( so maybe we can turn it around... Is it worth a try? - Lindsay
A few likes... Any thoughts? - Lindsay from iPhone
I agree. That's why I get so miffed at the ones who buggered off early. Unfortunately, my friends are enamored of Facebook and I've been unable to persuade them. I suggest we all look for new people to sub to here. There's a lot going on outside our little group. - Spidra Webster
I'm a noob. What can I help you with? :P - imabonehead
I can't seem to pull people I know away from Facebook. They don't want to meet new people, just people they already know. - Eric - Final Countdown
Would that matter? People only comment on posts of people in their little cliques. Every once in a while they venture out/overlap, but new people see the cliques and walk away. - Anika
@Anika - FoaF has almost disappeared for me. Finding new people I had something in common with but still had a lot to learn about made FF a lot more interesting and valuable to me. - Lindsay from iPhone
I agree with Lindsay. I still use that and subscribe to new people when I can, but it has slowed way down. - Eric - Final Countdown
I figured there might be some people to recruit from Twitter more than FB. People looking for more than 140. chars to express a thought. - Lindsay from iPhone
Lindsay, honestly I think Anika's hit it. The most consistent, prolific posters in English speaking locales are either gone or already in the small, core group(s). There are simply too few people willing to kick the tires who'd be tenacious enough to invest long enough to start reaping commensurate benefits. I'm not sure what the answer is, but I've seen this happen in small groups that meet in the members' homes, and drawing in new people to a dysfunctional situation rarely fixes the underlying problem. - Micah
I'm giving it a shot. Putting out the request. - Eric - Final Countdown
Adrian's onto sump'in. - Micah
The only way you're gonna get new blood in here is if that Steven Perez fool stops talking all that political crap. - Steven Perez
LOL @ Adrian. Sounds like a plan! - Lindsay from iPhone
Could hand out free FF candy at COMICON! - Adrian
I don't have a problem finding new people. My point is that there are people here where I don't have to open their posts. I know it's the same 5 or 6 people making the same predictable noises. It's a turn off, so I take refuge in rooms and new people for content that's not all personal and is interesting. - Anika
@Micah - I think pulling in just a few would not help, you're right. It is hard to break into an established community, but that isn't really what I mean. I would like to try to recruit enough people that it is too many for me personally to keep up with adds. Give enough fresh blood to form new cliques of their own and branch out when it happens on it's own. One or two new peeps wouldn't cut it. - Lindsay from iPhone
In terms of my subs (what a lot of people equate with as getting noticed, I think they're overrated): Almost ALL of my new sub'ers are from Twitter, so I consider non-active/non participative, until I see a high numbers of comments/likes, & posts for that matter I won't sub back; but aside from the big the Twitters when I do see this, I will most definitely sub back - sofarsoShawn
If you're going to hang around, I'm sure we'll get to know each other. - Eric - Final Countdown
AC, I think you're right, to a certain extent. I think that there are a few nice people, but like I said, the cliques here are strong and many of them don't want to talk about anything that's not frivolous. There's a lot of snark, so it comes off as rude, IMO. - Anika
Oops, totally brainfarted: What I meant to also say is that there are some people here who could be "Here's my friend. Love her/him!" And everyone will. But new people without that introduction don't get that instant attention. - Anika
ROFL I think that's a personal choice, no? - Anika
AC Delco, it might help a bit if you wrote something about yourself in your profile bio. - Spidra Webster
Just some sort of synopsis of how you see yourself. Not everyone does that. Some people just write witty sayings there, but even that tells something about them. - Spidra Webster
Oh shit, I better update my bio! - Adrian
You can't hide your Hazzard County roots, Adrian. - Spidra Webster
Doh! I'z been found... yes sireee Bob! - Adrian
Lindsay you won't like what I have to say, but your a 'clique' on here. I post something and no one answers. None of you welcome new users. Some seem to prefer that is stays 'the same old crowd/ I agree with you FreindFeed is fab and you DO need new blood, but when a newbie posts, try commenting or liking. - Technogran
I only came across the people commenting on this thread fairly recently, though it's fairly likely I've been on FriendFeed longer than any of you. I'd say I'm subscribed to several different communities on FF, which don't otherwise intersect much. I guess I'm a bit like that in real life too. - Ruchira S. Datta
I didn't write anything in my profile bio. Why I keep getting new subscribers continues to baffle me. - Ruchira S. Datta
The fact that there are new people engaging here is a good sign. Subscribe and subscribe. Yay! - Adrian
I suppose I see some people less frequently than before, but then I've subscribed to other people and rooms to get about the same volume (i.e., as much as I'm comfortable with). - Ruchira S. Datta
I try to use it whenever I am in public so they know Friendfeed exists and also I make sure that I do not use Twitter or Facebook during that time. - Ashish from iPhone
I'm not on Twitter at all. - Ruchira S. Datta
I really don't feel like the community is dying. I still get way more active involvement here than anywhere else, even with Facebook where I know everyone personally. I've been pitching Friendfeed hard to a few people at work though, might wind up brining them around. - Louis Simoneau
@Technogran - I'm not sure I'm personally a clique, though I will admit that I developed the habit of depending on FoaF for a long time while FF still had influxes of new users (and sometimes it was really overwhelming and I just hung out in my lists because there were TOO MANY new people... miss those days almost). I quit subscribing to new people unless I interacted with them on... more... - Lindsay
I agree with Lindsay that this is still the best feature based service out there. I tried playing with Buzz for a bit but so far it's pretty crappy and they don't seem to be adding any features to fix their issues. I agree with Anika about the issue that FF is really about cliques. In fact I've had that same sentiment stated to me elsewhere from folks that abandoned or never got... more... - Mark Krynsky
I think it's only about cliques if you have nothing particular to talk about. E.g., I love seeing the Art Room in my feed, though quite often the comments are in some language whose script I can't even read. You can coalesce around shared interest, regardless. - Ruchira S. Datta
I'd recruit...but I like you guys. Why would I want to add more people like me to this mix? ;) - Just another Bubba
I've pretty much always thought of FriendFeed as a big party, but much less hit-or-miss. - Ruchira S. Datta
You can engage in cyberhypercavicunicucunctatalinkus without ever leaving the site. - Ruchira S. Datta
I *still* get almost zero engagement on Facebook. But then again, I see what other people post on Facebook and I don't find what they post very interesting. It's really interesting to just import all friendfeed content into Facebook, and see what people respond to. I get much more, detailed responses here when I do. - Andy Bakun
I agree that the FF community needs to evangelize more -- initiation to the community needs to be better - if we don't have a 'most important ff posts for noobs' post already then we should start working to create one, and then make sure that every noob is made aware -- i don't necessarily see the lack of new users as the problem (i've been meeting some new ffriends lately) but the churn seems to be the problem. lots of people give friendfeed a try, but most of them leave -- we can do something about that - Chris Heath
@Ruchira - Before the last few months when my FoaF still picked up new people FF was what you made of it. If you expected it to only be cliques and didn't participate except within cliques then it was about cliques. If you interacted with lots of people outside your favorites then it was about discovery and even about news. I used to be able to keep up with tech, science, photography... more... - Lindsay from iPhone
I followed people because of what they were sharing, that is what they were importing through their feeds. Do you know how boring it is, to see from a person solely personal posts when they used to share actual interesting content? - Anika
@Anika - why do people seem to have quit sharing interesting content? Is it because of the change in the community or what? I think when there was a larger audience that the interesting content got more participation... but since the audience has become less diverse and people get less feedback on non-personal posts they haven't been encouraged to post other things. What do you think? - Lindsay
I follow people who still share interesting content; in the majority of cases these are non-English speaking people. Of course, the trade-off is there's no interaction. I translate the posts to see what others are saying but feel there's no point in trying to post something when the translation could be wrong or my response might not be understood. I also try to share interesting... more... - Mark H
yeah Mark, i get a lot of the turkish posts via FoaF - some are really good - Chris Heath
I'm a latecomer and not sure what the FF community is/was but I love what you can do with it - particularly when a group forms and is active. The LSW group is more of a community-oriented online community than most. Another group I'm involved in has good people, but mostly feed links; it's only good when a discussion gets going - which naked links rarely prompt. - barbara fister
Well, I've just friended everyone on this feed (who didn't have a private feed) that I hadn't been following before. Every one of us went through the same "How do I get STARTED?!?" feeling; the way through it is interaction -- just keep liking and commenting on threads, and follow people who interest you, and suddenly you'll find yourself in the thick of things without even knowing how it happened. So welcome to all of our new members! - Ordinarybug Heather
it iIS all about the community here...wish there was a way to weed through the broadcasters in my friend list and find just the people who are engaging... And dump the rest. That's half the problem, sorting through the broadcast trash. The other half is no mobile app I can find for my phone. :) - Peggy Dolane
i don't have a problem with broadcast users, it does bug me a bit, but i realize that some people do their thing on their own sites and i'm happy that they at least came here to set up the feed so that i can find them and their stuff - Chris Heath
and when someone doesn't have their feeds coming into ff i'm grateful to the ff-team for giving me the tools to add feeds into 'groups/rooms' in the event that I want to add someone to ff that doesn't have an account - Chris Heath
Lindsay, I don't know. I think it goes back to cliques. Say Person A posts something. Then about 10 min. later, Person B posts the same exact thing, all of a sudden everyone is rushing to that person's posts to comment. Why? Because s/he's part of that clique. They both have the same people subbed to them, but it's all in who is doing the posting. One reason I'll post certain items to rooms as opposed to my feed to avoid the typical responses I know I'll get from some people. - Anika
on any social networking site you have this social network effect... while person a doesn't have that many friends person b does, and person b's friends are very active... it may seem like a clique but it's just a group of people interacting... the first person isn't in the circle of friends (or clique as you call it) --- by definition a clique is exclusive. here on friendfeed a clique would be a private group - Chris Heath
No, I was explicit. I'm talking about people who do have the same circle of friends (subscribers). It's just that one person can be ignored while the same item posted by someone else (visible to the same people), can be celebrated. - Anika
Trying. I stump for FF all the time and hate the thought of it dying due to apathy. - Martha from BuddyFeed
Why not welcome the new starters to FriendFeed: - Kol Tregaskes
Another thought: the real reason I got hooked was because of a person (no longer actively participating here sadly) who habitually reached out to new people and personally made them feel welcome. Enough of that practice spread regularly over time would so much to spread goodwill again outside of this network. I am by far not the most influential person here (and she was one) but if enough people commit to doing this, well, it's bound to make a difference ... - Martha from BuddyFeed
I got R to join - now how to rope him in... - Iphigenie
I think that cliques are quite normal in any social situation, the problem with FF is that its active (participating rather than broadcasting) user base has never been large enough to make the cliques less noticeable. The few people I introduced to FF left because of the US-centric cliquey atmosphere therefore I don't think I will try with anyone else. - M F
as far as I know there are entire mini ecosystems of people within friendfeed which we don't see or meet - perhaps we ought to snoop around and rope in the people who are already here - Iphigenie
I am unsubscribing to ALL of you. Buncha hippies. - Akiva from FreshFeed
*serious* lol - Mr. The Jason Fleming
So in the early days of FF I grow to love it for several reasons. The features / functionality of the service were awesome. My personal interests are fairly tech heavy and FF offered a great discovery engine for finding the interesting or most popular tech info/stories that were being liked/commented on by folks. It also offered a fun and balanced experience for fun stuff like sharing... more... - Mark Krynsky
Just subbed to you, AC. Echoing what other folks said - it would help if folks commented on newbies' posts. Otoh, folks don't comment much on posts in general. I don't *feel* like a newbie, but very little of my stuff gets much attention. (I don't think mentioning it is a good idea, in general.) Either that's true of a lot of people, or not everything I post is the stuff dreams are made of, or both. I deal, and am learning the difference. - Mary B: #TeamMonique
++AC Delco, a round of applause to Lindsay for starting this discussion! When I joined FriendFeed, there were very few people on it and most of us knew each other in real life. I'm learning a lot here about what it's like for most people when they join. - Ruchira S. Datta
Just kidding. You make some excellent points. - Akiva
+jcovertaxed on the money - Adrian
AC Delco really? Calling me a traitor? Is FF a country? I think it's exactly comments/attacks like that on people that turn them off to sharing & interacting on the service. Everyone chooses to use this service in different ways and it's the people you sub to and interact with that define that for you. I don't judge anyone for using the service however they want to and I'm just stating what has changed for me. I still love the service and have many friends here and continue to visit it daily. - Mark Krynsky
I love how most of you people are having a good time interacting with Cristo, I guess that's one positive to re-branding yourself. ;) - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
You are suspicious as well Jimminy? - Chris Heath
Yes, was trying to be helpful, but come on! Still fun though. - Eric - Final Countdown
Chris, not suspicious, he told me so last night. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Jimminy, I think Cristo will be rather cross to see that you're revealing you guys' pillow talk to everyone. That stuff's supposed to be private! - Akiva
Cristo, it was out in the open, public fashion, now just to find out which thread it was in. EDIT: - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Mark, for what it's worth, you're one of the people I feel does a great job of being friendly with all sorts of people. I would like to see the tech content come back a bit - it's how I hoped to up my geek cred. But there's so much here i'm always finding new stuff. I've found three new people just in this thread! - Mary B: #TeamMonique
Stuck together? Loyalties? Not use other services? Slap out of it Man! The World Wide Web is a big place...Many of us import our activity from OTHER services right here so that we can share and help others discover great content and then have conversations sparked from those imported items. This isn't some island were we all have to isolate ourselves and sing Kumbaya...although I'd like to do that with Akiva one day... - Mark Krynsky
^________^ - Akiva
MaryB thanks...I've been here since the beginning and have really tried to steer clear from any personal attacks or some of the more heated arguments I've seen here over the years. I'm not here to push an agenda. I'm just here to discover great content and people...and wacky photo memes. - Mark Krynsky
I did my part! ... Actually, I probably made a few people leave. :( - Steven Perez
Cristo, yes that comment, but I also find it highly unlikely, someone would act like you, as well as using an image of Chuck Yeager. How many people do you think even know who he is, and the likelihood of picking that as an avatar? So combine the 3 factors, FF being the third, and it's seemingly more than coincidental. :) - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
You really think that no one knows who Chuck Yeager is? - Akiva from FreshFeed
Akiva, I don't think many people know who he is, not that no one knows who he is. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Cristo, they don't act like you, not many snarky remarks. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Akiva, might be believable, but then you would have to be Akiva and not Chris White. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
I'm offended. I have never made a snarky remark on FriendFeed. - Akiva
It would probably be more feasible if I was AC Delco. *sigh* - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
*touche* I'm also trying extremely hard to pin it on you, which doesn't help my case either. If I was AC, I would admit to being Cristo in a post at this point to prove my case, that you're AC. Sadly, I don't so that won't be showing up. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Yeah I think that too.Now That friendfeed moved to "Safe" Servers it's quite fun to use again - Svartling
Join Johnny and Steven at #UserDrive :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Thanks all who have friended me from this discussion. Now all I need is someone to comment when I post something! Hey, things are looking up! I have been on Friendfeed a good while actually, I'm not a newbie but simply was ignored 'sob' - Technogran
Hey, will some of you debaters go put your money where your mouth is and actually answer my "burning" question? - Martha
Martha, it looks more like a freezing question. - Ruchira S. Datta
I think quitters are too public about the fact that they are leaving. I say just go and be done with it. I'm here using the service and if they are quitting then I am pretty sure it is someone I am not interacting with anyway in this space. so what does it matter to me? - Mr. The Jason Fleming
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Jesse Stay
Twitter Suspending Accounts in Droves -
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Good! I have got follows from more spam accounts the past couple weeks than I've ever gotten. - Mike Bracco
I <3 FriendFeed Real-Time search - it lets me see Twitter Fail, as it happens - Jesse Stay
Thanks for the heads up. BTW, here is the retweet from the SPAM account: RT @SPAM If someone you just KNOW isn't a spammer is suspended right now, their account is prob contaminated and we're fixing it. - RAD Moose
I'm glad about the real spammos being zapped, but sure is odd they have to temporarily suspend bona fide accounts in droves!!! Thanks for staying on top of this Jesse. Where is Mashable when we need them?? Nothing from Pete et al yet... - Mari Smith
Hopefully it will get rid of all those Kathy34982s and Elisa9867s - Carlton Prest
they're suspending legit accts, but the bots and spammers aren't getting banned the way they need to. - Dawn S. Lambe
I have gotten a lot of spam followers in the past few weeks. - John (bird whisperer)
My account was suspended for some reason. Awhile ago I had some duplicate posts due to wayward drupal module however for some reason it was suspended in the last 4 hours. I was using twollow and was following "online marketing" so that I could learn more from people discussing online marketing. Could this have caused it? I sent in a support request so we will see what happens. - Brian Kenyon from iPod
FYI I'm going to update the post but that message from @spam is from May 30 - it appears that Twitter does not yet know about this one - Jesse Stay from iPhone
I got suspended and I am not spam! A lot of good Tweets are getting suspended. - Kimber Scott
Un-oh. Why do they say they are doing it? - Francine Hardaway
4chan is currently to blame, they were trying to get on the top of trending topics (and succeeded) - mjc
Michael, I'm wondering if it happened for some reason due to that. Maybe Twitter got trigger happy to kill the attack. - Jesse Stay
Doesn't necessarily make sense. If the problem is the gorilla anatomy thing, wouldn't they just go after those accounts? - John E. Bredehoft from fftogo
John, has Twitter ever made sense? - Jesse Stay
"There seems to be a wave of suspensions going around Twitter today, and it’s turning quickly into an echo chamber of confusion and frustration. We’ve received several tips (the first one being from Mashable guest writer Matt Singley) that a range of users are being taken down, including some with large followings such as @marismith and the LA Times Top of the Ticket account." - Kimber Scott
Kimber, check out the comments on my post - you'll see there are many more. Also check out the real-time stream and you'll see people complain real-time. - Jesse Stay
They suspend @marismith but not @GangbangGirl @cumcandy & @kellikanyon. That's rich - Peggy Dolane
Yes, Jesse, I saw the stream and the other comments. My Twitter account is working again. Thank goodness. - Kimber Scott from email
I didn't get suspended. Glad in a way, but not sure I care about it. I don't bother with twitter much anymore. I'm mainly here on friendfeed now. - Jannifer @wordsforliving
I like it here on FriendFeed. I like the features and the fact you can have a real conversation. Besides, I feel very distrustful of Twitter now. - Kimber Scott from email
Twitter has become a farm house for spammers - Michael_techie
Robert Scoble
davedelaney: "is there anyone who doesn't know what a social network is?" @scobleizer raised his hand :-) #gnomedex -
Yes a few - Ashish Gupta
Robert Scoble
OMG having a beer with @drew and @comcastcares and a few other geeky people #gnomedex
I bet none of them read klingon blogs. - Derrich
Let @comcastcares know that I have been using them for about 5 weeks and my internet has gone down at least once a week. - Hunter
Hunter I just did. Mine goes down once a month. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
My SFSU PR students did a "study" of Comcast's social media presence. I'll be posting a report on my blog soon :-) - Shari Weiss
Thank you sir. - Hunter
Robert Scoble
My blog reactions to FriendFeed getting acquired by Facebook are now up:
Cool!! You can get my take at - Ade Lack
Robert Scoble
@FreeRangeMom yes. Cleaning up Twitter has changed my attitude toward Twitter quite a bit. It's amazing how much spam has disappeared.
Walt who said my job did? Didn't you notice I was up all night last night cleaning up my followers? - Robert Scoble
hoping you'll add me back in... I missed the invite comment window... - Peggy Dolane
Noticed the same thing when I trimmed my own follower list, Robert. - George Hall (Australia)
I wish Twitter, though, would have a nice checkbox on each follower so you could tick it and bulk unfollow/bulk block, etc. The current way is still way too slow. - George Hall (Australia)
Robert is finally learning that more isn't necessarily better, eh? Too much information is still a problem - and a ton of the information out there isn't interesting or useful, it turns out. :-p (Present company excluded, of course). - amygeek
Robert Scoble
Want me to refollow you after the great unfollowing? You better be listed on
Yawn. - Steve Council
Ha ha, your new twitter is not on the list. It is not in your friendfeed either. - RetiredTeacherD
Robert, I like you but I'm not going to beg or audition for a follow. Either you like what I do or you don't. If you expect me to perform a trick for you, I'm a tree and you're a misplaced bark. - Akiva
The problem with WeFollow is that it has different levels of specificity. So someone can be classified under Python, Ruby on Rails, Google, Development, or whatever which technically is Tech but those other tags are more helpful. - Eric Florenzano
?! Don't let popularity burn you. - Enrico L
If you want to read what I post, follow. If not, don't. One nice thing about not being internet famous is that those who do follow me are more likely to be genuine, folks I'd enjoy talking to in person. - Jack&Cleo
What is the value of wefollow? The site doesn't explain what it does. - Brent Logan
Robert I am @ wefollow, but I am under photography, socialmedia sigh is that okay? - polou/indigo_bow
Good points on wefollow Eric Florenzano - wefollow also limits to 3 choices. I have far more interests than 3. I program, develop, build automated machines, but I do not want to be known as that. I like being a people person for people. I am a tech person for the machines. - RetiredTeacherD
My thoughts are very similar to Akiva's on the matter. - Jonathan Hardesty
Robert: I thought you were only going to follow those followed by @notsecretscoble? - Angus Burton from iPhone
I don't think Robert followed me on Twitter anyway, no huge loss. He finds me when necessary...LOL - Rahsheen
And I will go to sleep tonight not really giving a shit that he's not following me. Actually, I don't know that he ever has. Never cared to check. O.o - Lola Bean (Penguin)
1UP Akiva and Penguin. I simply do not care. - Rochelle
You are a trip Scoble but I agree with your thinking here. I had also arrived at those same conclusions about followers & DM's. I remember first knowing you back in 96 or so when beta testing the Winnov Videum Cam Traveler. I found that thing in a box. Still a GREAT camera by the way. Have fun - Robert Anderson
Robert I like your stuff but I must agree with Akiva. I'm not going to register in wefollow under "tech". There are 32M people in that list. I'd like to be followed because I share interesting content and enjoy conversation but I'm not going to jump through some sort of hoop. - Keith - @tsudo
Most of us are glad you are mass unfollowing on twitter so it will be useful for you but this is a bit much - Keith - @tsudo
Robert: Please tell me which of your accounts I should follow. I'm confused. Cause it's who you follow that counts right? - Andrew Smith from fftogo
Andrew: follow @scobleizer or just follow me here, since that's the best place to follow me. - Robert Scoble
Akiva: anyone cool doesn't need to worry. I am already following you here. - Robert Scoble
It would be more interesting to just create a new account and start updating that and ignore the old account, and see how long it took for people to find you on the new one. - Andy Bakun
And FriendFeed's where the real action's at! - Akiva
thanx Robert @ least I'm not a bore, but irregular in shape lol - polou/indigo_bow
I'm on wefollow, it's good. But why is it important for people to be on it for you to follow them? - jjprojects
Robert: why do you care if someone is on wefollow? - Nick in Manila
Robert: @scobleizer make a deal - I have enjoyed the brief interaction, I will follow you if you follow me - Geer
not a fan of the wefollow, but i'll always keep my eye on your streams. - MikeAmundsen
I think wefollow is a useful starting point, but I'd be hesitant to use it as my gatekeeper, unless I was focused on celebrities and social media people. - Ho John Lee
I'm #46 under Tech... But why is that a determinant? - Mark Davidson
Wefollow only lets you enter 3 categories at a time. Some of us fit in more than 3 categories. I don't think wefollow is particularly helpful in guiding people. - Cathryn Hrudicka
Mark: because I'm mostly interested in geeks. It was my way of signaling to the world that I wouldn't be following non-geeks unless I had a good reason to. It was my way of causing a conversation. Wefollow is interesting, by the way. I wish I had other ways to look at the database than just numbers of followers. - Robert Scoble
The 15,000th "tech" member, by the way, has 53 followers. I found that on page 600: - Robert Scoble
I am not listed there because I don't want to spam Twitter with the Wefollow nonsense. - Louis Gray
So is the thought that you will sync Twitter to wefollow all the time so it becomes your master list and everything else is pruned? - Todd Hoff
Holden, you don't have to, thanks to lists. - Louis Gray
Holden: no. Because FriendFeed has groups. If I get tired of who i have followed I'll just open up a new group and start clean. - Robert Scoble
The following count on couldn't keep up with the big unfollow (currently showing 79,249). This reminds me how YouTube used to miss the view count :-) - Majento
Ohai! I've been following you on Twitter for 2.5 years, on a protected account on which I only follow 5 people (hyperbole). So, yah, we may not have met yet IRL, but I noticed the drop in my follower count, immediately, and I feel like I've lost a friend. While I AM listed on wefollow on my public account, I am most probably listed under categories that do not apply to you. I respect... more... - Yvette
Yvette: I am following you here, so no worries. - Robert Scoble
I know. Isn't it funny how something so simple and non-personal can create an emotional response? I feel like clinging to your pant leg! It's utterly irrational and un-called-for. (And unnecessary.) Please do your thing. Don't mind me. :-) - Yvette
re: #wefollow: on the first try got this: " Error 503 Service Unavailable Guru Meditation: XID: 166617335" this is truly a new age web ;) whether 3.0 or 2010. - jacek
I wish you could search for people on wefollow, not just under tags, so you could see what tags certain people have used. Unless people have a lot of followers, it's hard to find them. Not all interesting people have a lot of followers. - jjprojects
I wish Wefollow allowed more than 3 tags. I am listed under podcaster there, the other two are also important to me professionally as is tech, but I could only pick 3. Oh well, I may have to re-think one of my tags. - Louis Trapani
Wefollow does seem to be a limited implementation of a good idea. A hierarchy would be good, too: what is #web as opposed to #webdeveloper? Isn't one really a subset of the other? Perhaps tagging yourself with #webdeveloper automatically puts you in #web as well, but it doesn't say that. - James
how can i find myself on their lists? and what is their ranking algo? - Chris Heath
but then, you follow people according to their tags and not for their content :) - Apostolos Tsompanopoulos from twhirl
I just didn't want to send the wefollow spam message back to twitter; so I won't be on there. Oh well. - Phil Crissman
+1 Mark Essel - FriendFeed messaging is much better than Twitter DM - Stuart Miniman
It may be more fun for you if you just follow people you find interesting. - Citronella still FFing
I'm on WeFollow but not under Tech. Photography and Social Media yes, but not under Tech. Best of luck with the Unfollowing. - Jim Goldstein
I've been putting it off, but I've been thinking about doing this, on a much smaller scale, of course ;) - Jason Preston
Yup - Ronald S from iPhone
OK, I'm listed there under tech, but also other categories. One can be a geek and still tweet about other things, like the arts, science, health care, good causes, etc. I'd like to see more "geeks" expand their horizons and follow people who have multiple interests and tweet about them. Certainly some geeks are multi-faceted and find the applications of technology in all areas of life... more... - Cathryn Hrudicka
How many tweeps are you looking to refollow? - Justin Hileman
I find the sentences "anyone cool doesn't need to worry" and " I'm mostly interested in geeks" to be somewhat contradictory. ; ) I'm not sure what people mean by WeFollow spam, it just sends out one message when you select the tags to be listed under. - Liz
wefollow is a joke - it's a pumper of the default list that's all. - Allen Stern
I am listed - have been for a long time - but do not see any real value. I work as a project manager. Friendfeed and Twitter still needs more people from my profession to be competitive to other forums I use. I wish more folks from PMI would join Friendfeed. - Frode Stenstrøm
The Web's Wendell Wittler
RT @Shoq WARNING: Real Twitter VIRUS ALERT. (Retweet please)
Scoble, Alex Scoble
Anyone who says they are 100% sure of anything is an idiot.
I am 100% sure that's not always right.... - Simon Wicks
You seem awfully sure about that Alex. - FFing Enigma
@Simon LOL! :) - Hasitha
I'm 95% sure of that :) - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
Classical answer : are you 100% sure of that ? - stanjourdan
I'm 100% sure that, I almost failed 8th grade - Matt Ruiz
I am 100% sure that you are right. - Martha
Are you sure about that? - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I am 100% sure that you are awesome. Oh wait, I must be an idiot to say that. ;) - Ben Parr
And if the universe ended tomorrow? You would not be moving out. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
100% sure! - Martha
I always say something like, "I am 99 2/3% certain of ..." - Joey Gibson
I am 100% sure I have 8 tattoos, and 100% sure that I have only given birth to 3 children - Holly is Happy
I'm 5% sure that none of you exist and that this is all just a figment of my imagination...100-5=95% which I submit is the most a human can know about anything even if they are staring directly at it :) - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
how about 99 and 4/4th's % ? - Simon Wicks
How many lights did Picard see? :) - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
yeah i'm hyper-agnostic (is that even a real thing?) - Chris Heath
No, Dave...sometimes 1+1=10 - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I am 100% sure I slept last night. - AJ Batac
The greater the steaks, the higher the pressure, the less you find you really know. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Why are your steaks in a pressure cooker? - FFing Enigma
ROFL...see I don't even know how to use the correct stakes 100% of the time. :) All of our senses are easily fooled. Our memory frungible. There's no such thing as knowing. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Alex: You get some GREAT threads going! - Jim Connolly
That's where the meat is, re. last night's brotherly post - in the pressure cooker!! - Micah
What if you always give 110%? - Josh Haley
LOL - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
Then your definition of 110% is wrong. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
Why do people say they will 'give 110%' It's impossible! - Jim Connolly
....It's like people who say; "I don't know the meaning of failure." How fricking dumb does someone have to be, not to know what the word 'failure' is??? ;-) - Jim Connolly
I think the idea of giving 110% is that what you think is possible is often quite lower than what your body is actually capable of. It means to dig deeper into yourself and give everything that you've got and not just what you think you are capable of. This is what special forces training is usually about as well. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
"There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." --Hamlet ( - Stephen Mack
Stephen: Kudos - excellent quote. - Jim Connolly
Sean, I'm at least 20% sure now that you are a completely automated fabrication of the internet. And Janet, whether you are female or male, these days, is entirely up to you. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
I"m 37% sure this thread is dissolving to silliness. - That's So CAJ!
I'm 78% sure it started there. What's your point? - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
I'm 100% sure my name is Carlton, 100% sure I'm black, and 100% certain that I'm one snarky S.O.B. ;-) - Carlton Hackett
Carlton: I'm 50% sure that you're not snarky ;) - Jim Connolly
Wait ... let me go look in the mirror :) - Charlie Anzman
Your comment isn't very snarky, Carlton. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
This is the kind of deep, meaningful stuff that the web was invented for! - Jim Connolly
Yeah, I'm fairly sure that I agree with that statement, Jim. :) - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
What something is invented for is only use case zero. - Micah
Well now I'm an idiot, because I just realized that I'm 100% certain that I love steak. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
I am 100% sure that you've read this sentence. - Tyler (Chacha)
I'm 100% sure this thread will hit 100 comments - Charlie Anzman
I'm 100% sure that the older I get, the MORE I look like an emoticon :) - Jim Connolly
And you have to love that paradox! - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
What is this "frungible" of which Alex speaks? - Fred Yankowski
"frungible" is a misspelling or intentional word play on fungible, which demonstrates the fungibility of things - especially language. - Micah
It means not fixed, not reliable. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases. - iTad from fftogo
Is dogma like one of those earworms from Star Trek, Tad? - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
I'm 100% sure I'm allergic to oranges. Want to test it out? I've got an epi pen - Soup in a TARDIS
I think we'll need more than one epi pen to be sure. I bet you that one orange out of 90 doesn't want to kill you. :) - Scoble, Alex Scoble
and you know what they say about statistics, right? - Chris Heath
I'm 100% sure, the next time I go buy candy for my office, I'll buy Junior Mints over Peanut Butter Cups :) - Justin Korn
I'm fairly sure that you are doing your candy wrong :p - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
I 100% disagree :O - Justin Korn
You are entitled to your opinion...wrong as it is. :) - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
I hedge an awful lot - I think my MBTI results even say something about people like me liking to hedge - and I actually do wish I could be more definitive more often. - Andrew C (✔)
I'm 100% sure that I'm not an idiot. WeLL..... - Joel Robert Perez
isn't "Anyone" just another way of saying "100% of people..." ? i'm not saying its absolutely wrong - only that there might be a 99.999998% chance of it - Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Hmm, well we already established at least once on this thread that I too am an idiot, so... - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM
I'm 100% certain that people are going to try to prove Alex wrong :) - MiniMage
Hmm, whoever said this thread would get past 100 comments is probably not so sure now. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I'm 100% sure this thread will get past 100 comments!! - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Nick: I agree!! - Jim Connolly
How many of you are scared/concerned about the long term consequences of your digital footprint? When you swear outrageously or tweet drunk, are you worried that one day it might come back to haunt you (potential employer sees it or whatever?) And also, how do you feel about businesses using your conversation as part of their business models?
...Friendfeed being the prime example... (I should point out that I'm on a panel about this very topic this week, so I may bring up your thoughts during it...won't mention you by name though! :) ) - Zee.
Presently looking for work and constantly having to carefully choose my wording as to not disparage old employers and screwing myself out of new Jobs. - Brent - Yes I am
I think about this all the time - certainly an issue amongst within IP law (among many other areas). I've had my stuff used in ways I never thought of... thank God I didn't say anything too outrageous! - Gunther Sonnenfeld
Ok, I admit to being slightly worried, in case I get involved in politics. But whatever, I'll have an open philosophy regardless. And if businesses facilitate conversation, they can use what goes across their wires. Glass houses and all... - Christopher Galtenberg
In many ways, its not new. Just because it's digital doesn't mean you shouldn't be aware of what you say or how you behave. Granted, social networking makes things easier to find. - Mark Philpot
I do not hold with companies using my content in their work, be it in an article or an example on their site or brochures, unless they've contacted me and asked permission. As for my "digital footprint" concerns, I've been online for over 20 years. I stopped worrying about that long ago. - Anika
Good question. All my LANjackal profiles are disconnected from my professional identity (no links or mentions from one to the other) for that very reason - LANjackal
but Anika, when Friendfeed uses your review of a particular application in the Apps room - and (in time) places advertising in there. Is joining Friendfeed and commenting enough permission? (I should note, i haven't looked into Friendfeed terms & conditions yet...which probably reference this) - Zee.
I don't swear and I don't get drunk. It's that simple, Zee. :) Just behave yourselves. - Louis Gray
The only thing that concerns me about my online content is posting something I wouldn't want my kids to see, which will probably never happen. I couldn't care less about future employers. If they don't hire me because of something I said online or because I posted a shirtless pic on FF, I probably wouldn't have enjoyed the job anyway. - Rahsheen
Louis is the smartest guy on FF!! :) wise advise for sure! - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed
swearing is fucking bad. - Tyler Gillies from email
Getting less scared about what I say online, don't mind to mention my name, but at the same time I'm being more careful too. It might be my age (& that I'm not as hyperactive as I used to be). ;-) - Ton Zijp
What about the literal footprint- the acids and chemicals that are used to make every new gadget, leeches into the soil, fills dumps in Vietnam that kids wade through... etc. - anna sauce
I'm just paranoid about the Internet to begin with, then add the whole digital footprint thingy ... - Brent - Yes I am
Ton, I see nothing wrong in being careful. - Brent - Yes I am
not so worried about myself... more worried about my children and figuring out how to teach them to be politic on-line when they don't want me looking over their shoulders. - Peggy Dolane
I'm old and don't care anymore - Robert Hafer
I know very little about my grandparents. My mother passed away several years ago and my father doesn't like to talk much. I would like nothing more than be able to search the archives of my relatives digital footprints to see how they lived, loved, and laughed. I hope to provide that to my grandchildren and I have no fear of them seeing the good, the bad, and the ugly because it will... more... - Mark Krynsky
wow mark that is very deep. thank you - Tyler Gillies from email
Me neither, Brent, but sometimes you just don't know what careful is. Tourists here in Amsterdam think they can ride a bike instantly & don't see any danger, untill they meet a tram that can't stop for them. In that way I'm talking about my behaviour of getting more careful. - Ton Zijp
There are a few things in the past that I regret posting, but once they go on the Net... Lately, I've been a little cautious in what I put up. - Arlan K.
Having seen some of the comments and pictures that get posted to my friends' Facebook and Twitter streams, I've become very wary of making drunken tweets and/or wall-posts. If you say or do something embarrassing while you're drunk, it soon gets forgotten; but what you post to a social network, tends to live on. - Andrew Terry
I've been hesitant to post anything about one of my former employers even though I very much want to talk about it. But the employer would be immediately recognized by every most everyone in the U.S. and I've worried that anything I would post about them would come back to haunt me. I don't think I would mind businesses using my conversations. Don't swear & rarely even drink anything so I don't have to worry about that! - Jannifer @wordsforliving
I hear you Jannifer. Frustrating isn't it? - Brent - Yes I am
I agree that if you're being an arse online it gives the impression that you're an arse in real life too. That much is fine, but if a potential employer takes exception at things such as your views on a specific subject (provided they're not of the ignorant and bigoted type) then you're better off not working for them and they have done a favour to you by showing their true colours. A... more... - alphaxion
We're all different people in different circumstances and there's nothing wrong with that. For example, I don't talk to my kids the way I talk to my friends, the way I talk to my co-workers, etc. The problem with the Internet is that it doesn't allow us that parting of our roles, so to speak. So we must adopt a generic self and water down our different parts, or else live with the consequences of exposing private aspects of ourselves to public scrutiny. It's a shame, I think. - Dawn
Since I have already not been hired for a job because of my blog, I am pretty much so to the point where it is all water under the bridge. How a potential employer handles what I have to say is more important. If they wont hire me, odds are highly likely the job would have been a bad fit to begin with. My 2 cents, been there, seen it, still got the best job in the world. - Dan owns
"When you swear outrageously or tweet drunk" - what Nicholas James said. - John Craft
To an extent I'm concerned, using this gave me a good idea of what is out there of me on the net and gave me a little fright. But I think by and large we are in control of what goes online about us, so it's up to us to manage. - Yant
You're always in the global village on the Web. Make sure that you don't find yourself doing nutty things on the street. Your mileage may vary, of course. - John Blossom
Be sure to keep your personal safety in mind when Tweeting. You can give out too much information about your location for instance. See this revealing post: (Twitter user says vacation Tweets led to burglary) - Peggy Dolane
Seems like an appropriate posts for Jauder Ho/ Leather donut - Mrsth
I take Louis Gray's approach, always doing my best to say what I mean clearly so it is not misinterpreted to mean something worse. - James Rishabh Mishra
I began my life online with a pseudonym to help separate it from my real identity. The main purpose was to preserve an independent voice without my current employer being affected by my opinions. However, over recent months, I've decided to intertwine the identities. It comes down to authenticity with me. I don't swear or get drunk either so whether online or in person what you see is what you get. - Keith - @tsudo
Charlie Anzman
Guess Who?
Isn't he the one who discovered a daily 'like' limit? Or was that a joke? - Rob H.
I think Tyson Key was the first to hit the (daily) limit. Kol has also hit it. - Ken Sheppardson
Yes, an entry is incomplete without a like from Morton Fox ! - LPH™ and his dog P™
Yet somehow Morton Fox has missed liking this entry. - DGentry
Just noticed that myself .... he's probably geo-caching or something - Charlie Anzman
Just like those guys who like so much - I like it -[ - Chris Loft
Actually, I haven't seen Morton around much lately ... hmmm - LPH™ and his dog P™
I think he's stamping for Where's George :) - Micah
The daily limit/weekly is real I've hit it about 4 times! :-( Wow, 124k of likes! :-) I need to catch up. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
amazing! - Thomas Hawk
Holy. Crap. - mjc
Jannifer @wordsforliving
Am I the ONLY person that does NOT have an iPhone??
yes. ;) - Yolanda
None here - FFing Enigma
Nope. - Kenton
For the next 11 days, no. :) - Hookuh Tinypants
No iPhone, but I do have an iPod Touch - Victor Ganata
Give me a few days - RAPatton
nope, you are not alone... - Harold
Definitely not!! But been wanting to get one since forever :O - Praveen Vasudev
I don't have one... but expecting that to change on or about June 19 ;-) - Herb Hernandez
Nope. I don't have one. Then again, you couldn't pay me to buy an Apple product or AT&Ts mobile system. - Anika
no, but things are about to change - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Nope, I don't have one either. - Dan owns
Lack of money hinders acquisition of the device - Jannifer @wordsforliving
I don't have one either. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Its pretty amazing the iPhone - it is useful too. It's mac friendly and for a PC hater like me - it's ace! - Marjorie Dawson
Alex? You don't have an iPhone. Someone needs to get this man an iPhone! - LPH™ and his dog P™
Seriously - with all this talk about the iPhone recently, I was thinking I was still living back in the stone ages! - Jannifer @wordsforliving
nope. no iphone here. could care less about them. - docrivs
The iPhone is pretty important to me, but I don't own one. FriendFeed users with iPhones gave me the answers I needed to make my site useful to them. - Bruce Lewis
Nope. G1. - Steven Perez
Nope. I don't even have a smart phone. - Alix May
still have a classics cell phone. - Patrick from twhirl
I don't have one - M F
iPhone junkie here... - Kelly W.
My division used to be part of Motorola, and for some odd reason Motorola didn't want to buy iPhones for its employees. :) And for personal use, they're pricey. - John E. Bredehoft
I don't have an iPhone, and have no real interest in getting one. Much of what is now being added to the iPhone, I already have on my Blackberry anyway. Also I'm not at all keen on touch screens, and I don't like AT&T. - Ian May
No, I don't have an iPhone... but I want one. - DGentry
I don't have one either. Not enamored with AT&T. Trying to figure out which toy of verizon's to purchase. - Peggy Dolane
I do not own an iPhone. - Russellreno
i dont have an iphone - Allen Stern
Wanna buy a 16GB black 3G model in pristine condition? [dead serious] - Josh Haley
I hear AT&T is a huge downside to having an iPhone - what's up with AT&T? (I haven't used AT&T...) - Jannifer @wordsforliving
no, i have a g1 - Christian (Simply X)
I love the iPhone, but hate AT&T. Sticking with the Pre - Rodfather
Why do people hate AT&T? - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Sounds like they are price gouging - they must be making a killing on the monthly fees! - Jannifer @wordsforliving
I don't have an iPhone either. - Morton Fox
I mainly don't like the coverage. They all suck when it comes to services and contracts. - Rodfather
Blackberry Addict! More economical to have in Jamaica:) iPhone would be too expensive to have for me here, meh. - Gordon Swaby
Um, lots of reasons to hate AT&T... right now I'm hating them because after buying the original iPhone, then the iPhone 3G, I now have to pay $399 to upgrade to the same low-end 16GB model that new customers pay $199 for... that does NOT sound like rewarding your customers for their loyalty... it sounds more like punishing them :-( - Fred Davis
Fred: It's still better than *any other carrier* because they don't let you upgrade until your contract is up or close to with the exception of Verizon. The reason why it is $200 more is because you weren't paying the subsidized on the original iPhone. - Zach Flauaus
nope... got the Pre! - Lisa Immekus
i don't have an iphone, either :) - yagami
I don't have any cellphone. - Joe "The Anvil" Pierce
Nope. Waiting for 5G - Charlie Anzman
No iAnything in my house...yet. - Jack&Cleo
Too expensive on the contract side. Weak that they want you to pay more than other phones for the contracts. No good explanation other than "they're subsidizing the iPhone" pfft. Shopping for a nokia or maybe looking at a G1. I just don't like T-Mobile much either. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Two major strikes for me: 1) Not open. 2) On AT&T. Do not want. - Adam Lasnik
No iphone here - Tai
im still addicted to black berry messenger and actually being able to type well, also not having my calls dropped - Zachary Adam Cohen
Don't have one: wife insists we stick w/Verizon (Good service; boring phones) - Tony C
Have iPhone, but no iLockInPlan. - Micah
how do you have service Micah? - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob, I continued with the plan I had (here in Canada) which I started with a plain ol' SIM-based cell phone. I don't have iphone-specific functionality (like visual voicemail) or internet access via cell network, so I just use wifi for email/browsing. It's a 1st gen iphone. - Micah
Rob, one tip: to disable iphone trying to access the net through the cell network (which if you don't have a data plan can just get charged at an on-demand rate - not pretty) you need to change the access point name in the settings. SEE - Micah
No iPhone here, thanks. No Apple Crap at all , in fact - sjjh
no iphone - τorƍue
No iphone. Verizon is way better than AT&T for me. I tried AT&T for 6 months (family plan with my brother) and it was way worse in my travel areas. Doesn't work in my parent's house in Ohio. Drops more calls (and delivers voice-mails late) about 10X as often as Verizon. On the other hand, if I lived in Fairfax, CA, I'd have to have AT&T, since Verizon is poor in north Marin. - Mitchell Tsai
NO - Yuvi
No, I don't have one and probably won't get one. Nokia make better phones. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
No I-phone here. - Brent - Yes I am
Addicted to Blackberry ! - Jacque from fftogo
NEVER! Hardcore Win Mo fan here, never moving over the line :D Ever. - Stuart Evans
Nope, I do not. - Mathew A. Koeneker
i don't and i am confident that i never will. don't even have a smartphone - Nathan Rein
no iphone, no plans to get one. Happy with whatever Verzon offers - currently a BB curve that does everything I need it to. - Mike Nencetti
Don't have one, don't want one :) Not an Apple fan. - Renee Hendricks
I'd love to have an iPhone, but do not want to get anywhere near AT&T. Can you imagine the sales if Apple had not been stupid and tied themselves to crappy AT&T? Looks like Palm Pre is the way to go for me. - Chris Gardner
I have great luck with AT&T, and always have, but I can't get over the double rate for the data service for the iPhone, and I'm not happy with any of the carriers tethering restrictions. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Nope! I don't have one and don't want one. My WindowsMobile based HTC Touch Pro has a full keyboard, has less restrictions (totally open system), and has more features. Also, I use Sprint which has faster data speeds anyway, and since I'm on the grandfathered SERO program, I only pay $30/mo for unlimited EVERYTHING. most of my iphone buddies pay at least TRIPLE THAT every month. hahaha, suckers! - veo
right, because what one has means nothing as long as others have less. :p - Josh Haley
Don't have one. - Lola Bean (Penguin)
not only do i not have an iPhone, i have no phone at all. part of the cell phone-less minority - Imabug
NO! I love the thing, but I refuse to pay the outrageous contract fees. And I admire Imabug. - Amy℠
I don't have an iPhone, but I think that'll change with the iPhone 3G S. - Diego Espinoza V.
I don't have one. However, I got a G1. :) - imabonehead
No, Apple says that, collectively, 40 million "iPhone OS devices" have been sold. There's gotta be at least, like, 50 million people on the planet, so you have plenty of friends. - David Chartier
Nope...not yet anyway :P - Shey
Nope. I won't get one either. Wouldn't mind something comparable in a Blackberry kind of way, though. :-D - Lisa L. Seifert
no, you're not. It only seems that way sometimes.... - WoH: Professor MOTHRA
Atul Arora
Twitter growth flat in May 2009
Wow. This is why I follow you. For stuff like this. - Dave Winer
Dave - comes with all the usual disclaimers - this is from, does not include twitter clients etc... - Atul Arora
If this is true, it's good news. It means the Twitter leaders can come home, and we can all roll up our sleeves and figure out what Twitter is really for. Maybe they'll start working with us instead of looking to celebs for the vision of their future. - Dave Winer
What's really amazing is I was driving through Virginia last week and every radio and TV station it seemed was talking about Twitter. This shows just how hard it is to get normal people to participate in the geeky world. - Robert Scoble
@Dave, QFT. - Scott Ohlemacher
So much for the hockey stick growth? - Mike Doeff
Growth is slow across most subdomains - - You may need to register to see this. - Atul Arora
For example is down about 5.5% - Atul Arora
Maybe now the infrastructure can catch up with the userbase and get rid of fail whales. - Morton Fox
What's weird is that this isn't really a "geeky" thing. Teenagers across the land text daily and that's all this really is, except to a larger audience. Wonder what is keeping that relationship from connecting? - Michael Turner
did the facebook changes have an effect? - Robert O'Callaghan
also scoble is on friendfeed now and that must be 50% of the traffic ;-) - Robert O'Callaghan
@O'Callaghan That's actually a good point. I'd like to be able to compare this to tweets made from apps and third party pages that use the API. - Scott Ohlemacher
Thanks: Atul - Charlie Anzman
It's not the number of users, it's the engagement that matters. - Matt Robson
Twitter grows 1043% in 3 months and it plateaus for a month, big deal; there's got to be some absorption. LinkedIn actually lost 400,000 visits, where's the panic over that? - Tom Gray
FriendFeed will beat Twitter one day - Michael_techie
@ Tom Gray - given all the media coverage, there was an expectation that Twitter would continue its spectacular growth. It is a bit of surprise that it plateaued for a month (as measured by and its much bigger competitor Facebook grew faster than it did. - Atul Arora
Go figure! weird... - Susan Beebe
Oprah talked about it, everyone that needed to know about it learned about it, now there's no one else. Twitter can only grow so far. My Mom and Dad would never use it nor have reason to use it, yet they use Facebook. - Jesse Stay
Friendfeed only had marginal growth in May as well. - Shéa Bennett
I think the use case and interface are still a bit puzzling to the average Joe, at least compared to Facebook. - Laura Norvig
No worries. It is just digesting the wave that came with Oprah & Co : after a few tries, it takes months (as an individual) to figure out a use, and come back for more. Who can say that he/she starting twittering and coming back to twitter every day since he signed up ? It will start growing again soon. Agreeing with @ Michael Turner : the DNA of Twitter is very similar to mobile texting, except that it's public. Therefore it will reach mass adoption sooner or later. - Roald Sieberath
AJ Kohn
A Bad Sign ...
Does no one else enjoy the humor of the fact that the sign is bullet ridden? - AJ Kohn
Escaping Inmates may be Hijacking Rifles and shooting signs. - Brent - Yes I am
I think they may have come from a previous post... - Aron Michalski
Robert Scoble
Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple.
Just getting ready for the morning! - Robert Scoble
Ha! Yup, time for a new iPhone... again! - Fred Davis
They are already waiting in line, after all! - Robert Scoble
I'm ready! - Peter Kruit
Banana - Dean Clark
Ready for the new iPhone, ready to make the switch finally - James Armfield
Exciteddd #apple! - chris andrew
mosdef, apple! - Jeremy Abbett
Dean: actually, Apricot. After all, they built their headquarters on one of my favorite Apricot orchards. - Robert Scoble
My 2G self is ready for an upgrade! - AllisonWagda
it has begun! - Tyler Gillies
Please let there be a release of iPhone OS 3.0 and Snow Leopard =D! - Guru Panguji
Can't wait til the evening - Sebastiaan van den Akker
Heheh. Or is that "Bing. Bing. Bing. Bing." - Robert Scoble
juice? - Adam Johnson
Pear Pear Pear Pear Pear Pear Pear Pear Pear Pear Pear Pare Pare Pare Pear Pear Pear Pear Pear Pear - Patrick from twhirl
can anyone confirm frontal camera? - Tyler Gillies
God.....what's this... - freebat
Guru, there's reportedly a Snow Leopard banner hanging in Moscone in plain view...which likely wouldn't be there unless there was *some* update :) - AllisonWagda
Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like, Like :) - Fatih Taşkıran
Sun. Sun. Sun. .. oh heck! - John W Lewis
it's finally that time of the year! wooot! :D - vijay
Judging by the looks of it, you're more than ready for tomorrow! Enjoy the conference, Rob! - Thomas Ward
Hmmm, it's true. All you have to do is say "Apple" and tons of people will like and comment. Heheh. - Robert Scoble
waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting (and not sleeping very well). - g3houdini
Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, - Nir Ben Yona
When you get your new iPhones, check out @iStoryTime a library of narrated kids books for the iPhone - Graham Farrar
Thanks for the reminder. I promised my daughter I'd cut apple slices for her school lunch tomorrow. - Brett Nordquist
i promised myself id get a new iphone - Tyler Gillies
yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, - Jean-Marie Gall™
Just give me a stable iPhone OS 3.0. No need for new hardware bells and whistles ... - Clarence Chiang
THERE IS A NEED! - Tyler Gillies
If it was Banana Computers we'd just get more phallic jokes. - Dean Clark
Will they announce the new Iphone tomorrow? I'm ready to make the switch. I'm just hesitant about AT&T, like when Robert called in on the Gilmor Gang take 2 from his car the quality sounded terrible. - Stephen Pickering
LOL~!!! Awesome scoble. - Adam Jackson
I BET it will be called iPhone Video. Expecting so much [new] video functions, so that it will be BASED on video. We'll see - Konstantin
will this start a new meme? - Dickson Loh
Dickson: it's a meme I've been on since 1977 when my dad brought home an Apple II and Hyde Jr. High let me help unbox its first Apple II. - Robert Scoble
Occasionally I use my iPhone to make phone calls. - Brett Nordquist
Developers Developers Developers Developers Developers - Khaled A
The only thing about the camera in the front is how do you see what you are taking a photo of? - Stephen Pickering
Brett, what is the call quality like? I've been on CDMA my whole cell phone life, well except for the analog years - Stephen Pickering
Stephen, it's for video chat - Konstantin
Ah, so there's a lens in the back too? Duh... I know - Stephen Pickering
No there's a faster processor - Stephen Pickering
600mhz I think - Stephen Pickering
all this for a major conference - Tyler Gillies
Tyler: you're right, 50 "Apples" is too many. I should have only put 43 here. ;-) - Robert Scoble
I wonder if they will make a Touch with ear and mouthpiece so that with a MiFi card you could have an Iphone on the Verizon or Sprint network - Stephen Pickering
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GTFO 4chan fag :) - Tyler Gillies
Stephen: The quality seems OK. I was with Sprint and Verizon the past 8 years. I like the iPhone for the apps and it's like having a mini-computer with me at all times. The few calls I make sound OK but not wonderful. - Brett Nordquist
Would love to see them make iTunes allow more than 5 computers authorization - Patrick from twhirl
Is Friendfeed where you guys hang out when Twitter is slow? More action here tonigh! - Brett Nordquist
+1 patrick, yeah ive had to clear all authorized computers more than once because of that - Tyler Gillies
brett -- when isn't twitter slow? ;) - Tyler Gillies
Thanks Brett, that's what I thought. Btw Twitter is ALWAYS slow, always has been even when there was no one on it - Stephen Pickering
Brett: what's Twitter? - Robert Scoble
robert: LOL - Tyler Gillies
bummer, bummer, bummer, bummer... I wish I could live in the U.S sometimes... - Orli Yakuel
Good point about Twitter being slow. Sure does seem that way the past while. - Brett Nordquist
Orli: going to an Apple press conference is over rated. I live 45 minutes away and I'm not tempted. - Robert Scoble
Today is a good day. I can't wait. - Jim Williams
I bought two iPhones in March so I won't be upgrading for a while. I got my spouse one wondering if she'd use it. And now there's no way I could pry it out of her hands. She's taken to it like I would have never imagined. She's into the simple games, but she LOVES it. - Brett Nordquist
one way I am hoping a great, revolutionary new iphone, so that I can admire it. OTOH I am hoping my iphone 3g is not obsolete tomorrow... - Alpay Erturkmen
By the way, both Mike Arrington and my iPhones have tons of cracks on the screen in a very similar pattern. I wonder what that means? - Robert Scoble
damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too costly. damn too... more... - Yuvi
Yuvi: Apple's always been that way yet I keep going to the Apple store and handing over my cash. - Robert Scoble
The service is what is too costly - Stephen Pickering
actually i heard a cheap iphone rumor - Tyler Gillies
For a student living in a second-third world country? Hell yea! :) - Yuvi
Well Apple has always been kind of US centric - Stephen Pickering
Not just Apple - Not a single retailer ships to India :( Amazon, Newegg, nobody : - Yuvi
I wonder if that's a Government regulation thing? - Stephen Pickering
FriendFeed ships to India!!!! - Stephen Pickering
Yeah, it is. But when Cafepress can ship, why can't Amazon! - Yuvi
Electrons always get free shipping :D - Yuvi
i pay for my electron shipment - Tyler Gillies
I had this problem when I ran a internet retailer out of my house. I'd get orders from England and such but the tarriff would be as much or more than the order - Stephen Pickering
Also, an iPhone even with a contract is INR 32,000 - which is around 700$. That sucks. - Yuvi
In India they don't do subsidies? - Stephen Pickering
32GB iPhone, 32GB iPhone, 32GB iPhone, 32GB iPhone, 32GB iPhone, 32GB iPhone, 32GB iPhone, 32GB iPhone, 32GB iPhone, 32GB iPhone, 32GB iPhone, 32GB iPhone! - Louis Trapani
Stephen: NO. I'd gladly fork over 200$, even 300$ for an iPhone, even with a contract! BUT NO SIR, YOU ARE NOT GETTING ONE! iPhones are for the RIIIICCH! - Yuvi
Yeah but you know how much our monthly service is here? $120 per month - Stephen Pickering
Tomorrow is gonna be amazing...just wait and see. I've already said too much ;) - Andru Edwards
120 i would blow on non iphone junk - Tyler Gillies
Andru: you suck. Now send me a DM about what's coming in the morning. - Robert Scoble
In Russia they pay about $12 per month for cell phone service and yet one of the companies I'm invested in Vimpel makes as good or better margins than US carriers. How is that? - Stephen Pickering
Stephen: So basically you're getting ripped off by the Telcos, while we're getting ripped off by Apple :) I spend about 6$ a month, for about 30 hours of talktime and 750 free outgoing messages a day :) - Yuvi
12 USD? - Tyler Gillies
Yeah, that's my point, and yet I bet the carriers in India make the same amount of money as ours - Stephen Pickering
Just seen a post by Leo Laporte, went something like; Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre,Pre, Pre - - - - - - Just kidding, we all love Leo!! :) - Jim Connolly
Tyler, actually more like $8 USD, and as Yuvi just said in India he only pays 6 USD! - Stephen Pickering
tech news-- the post i saw had more cuss words in it ;) - Tyler Gillies
Why is service in the US so much more expensive, the real estate for towers? - Stephen Pickering
stephen -- because they know we'll pay - Tyler Gillies
And I'm kinda 'higher end' :P A few of my friends spend about 1-2$ a month, and still get those free texts :) - Yuvi
Yuvi, I'm gonna cry - Stephen Pickering
i actually didn't think 120 a month was very high heh. now im shocked - Tyler Gillies
Cell phone service used to be very costly - around 20 bucks a minute (that'd be 50 cents) when it first came on in - ten years ago. Then Reliance happened, everyone got a mobile :) - Yuvi
I only found this out when I invested in a Russian carrier - Stephen Pickering
Now, for 3$ a month, I can call other Vodafone numbers for 10paise (that'd be, 0.20 cents NOT 20 cents), and other numbers for 49paise (that's around 1 cent). Not bad at all :) - Yuvi
Let's hope for the release of Snow Leopard and Apple OS 3.0! - Peter Kruit
So, how much do americans pay for mobile service? - Yuvi
How much is 1 rupee worth. I just watched Slumdog - Stephen Pickering
Yuvi: this is why Android is so interesting. I think long term that Android is going to be how most people get a cell phone with the power of an iPhone. - Robert Scoble
Yuvi, my bill is over 100 bucks a month - Stephen Pickering
Stephen: The ballpark rate is around 50 rupees for one usd. - Yuvi
OK, so he was still a USD millionaire - Stephen Pickering
Stephen: And how much do you use it? I mean, how much do you talk? - Yuvi
reliance? - Tyler Gillies
@Scoble: You know when Android would reach critical mass? When the cheap knockoff Chinese mobile makers embrace it. - Yuvi
All the time because its my only phone. But my plan only allows 900 minutes, but you get free weekends and after work hours. I think I average 1000 minutes a month - Stephen Pickering
Yuvi: I hear there are 12 Android phones shipping this year. It's only a matter of time. - Robert Scoble
hope the new iphone has a macro lens - Tyler Gillies
Christopher: did you see the Android phones that were handed out at Google's I/O conference? They are very nice. I think they passed Nokia and Microsoft with that effort and have Palm and Apple in sight. - Robert Scoble
I wonder what Bono will do to McNamee if the Palm thing doesn't work out - Stephen Pickering
Christopher: I'm not sure! A Chinese phone with a very big screen sells for around 90-100$. The only reason they're not as popular as Sony Ericsson and Nokia is the shitty software on them. If they have Android, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. So would millions of people here. - Yuvi
Yuvi: since Android is open source and free to put on phones I expect the Chinese will catch on within months. Especially since Android is getting better and better and selling better and better too. - Robert Scoble
I hope so Scoble, I hope so. - Yuvi
Scoble,Yuvi: Chinese sets which come to India are without IMEI number which means, they are ILLEGAL - Manish Sinha
Not Lenovo. Nameless factories that churn out mobiles, Christopher. Some have pirated copies of WiMo, and most have some shitty homemade OS. - Yuvi
@Manish: A friend of mine just bought one two weeks ago. My uncle uses one. Pop on any train, and you'll find a lot of people using these. I'm not too sure about illegality - I think they might've now gotten IMEI numbers. - Yuvi
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Also, do cheap Chinese knockoffs appear in the US much? - Yuvi
Yuvi: not really. - Robert Scoble
Yuvi: Some of my friends too use it. Indian Govt has asked all Telecom Operator to block mobiles without IMEI number but the telecos are reluctant. I large number of people still do use phones without IMEI number, so telecos will lose a lot of customers. - Manish Sinha
What's an IMEI number? - Stephen Pickering
<Insert Customary Link to Wikipedia> - Yuvi
Also, an iPhone or Pre would be *very* vulnerable to theft. Some jackass stole my SE phone a week ago, an iPhone or Pre would be much more valuble targets! - Yuvi
yuvi -- my iphone never leaves my body and i wear pants with deep pockets on purpose ;) - Tyler Gillies
So Robert, will you be going down to the Apple store this time in case something is released? - Jesse Stay
Jesse: nope. Although I have my Prius all ready. Heh. - Robert Scoble
i want safari4linux from Apple. Please, Robert say them "the penguin wants apple very much!" - Hüseyin Mert
Mert: Fat chance :) They won't even release a non-sucky passable iTunes for Windows... - Yuvi
Robert, same here - I think I'll just be ready to dart if it looks like something's going to sell worth getting. It sure would be nice if the Apple stores could have custom feeds straight from Apple during the Keynotes. I think they'd get a lot more business around that time if they did. - Jesse Stay
Christopher: have you tried official release or chromium. Both sucks. So, why apple ignore linux? this would be the question. - Hüseyin Mert
Same reason almost every other corp. in the world ignores Linux (on the desktop) - Yuvi
linux on the desktop is just lame. server cool. desktop fail. end of story - Tyler Gillies
+1 Tyler. And I'm sayin that from an Ubuntu box - Yuvi
mint isn't"built" from ubuntu. it IS ubuntu - Tyler Gillies
and its not the "polish" that makes it fail. its the design, it was created as a server OS - Tyler Gillies
last mint i installed was elyssa - Tyler Gillies
im not saying its a bad os. it just fails when compared to windows 7 or mac osx - Tyler Gillies
mushrooms! mushrooms! - Ben
Well, heck then I'm not getting Linux because my Mac Beach Balls enough as it is - Stephen Pickering
badgers badgers badgers! ;) - Tyler Gillies
osx is bsd. thats a different story ;) - Tyler Gillies
hehehehehehehehehhehe - Stephen Pickering
menage a trois - Tyler Gillies
Christopher I downloaded Windows 7 on a Sun Virtual Box. Is there anyway I can make it fill up the whole screen or can I only do that with boot camp? - Stephen Pickering
isn't virtualbox a piece of software? - Tyler Gillies
Yeah, I haven't played with it because it just sits there in its little box. No fun. But Leo Laporte was saying that Virtual had come so far that there was hardly any difference - Stephen Pickering
I'll boot camp it - Stephen Pickering
i installed windows xp in virtualbox from linux on a gateway because that was the only way i could get the drivers to work without the oem install cd - Tyler Gillies
I had Vista for a while on this Imac, but then it stopped working because it was a 350 dollar Home edition I bought for my Parents and licensed for only one machine! Oh that made me so mad - Stephen Pickering
I mean Vista Boot camped until it wouldn't let me log in anymore - Stephen Pickering
And yes, it was beautiful, so I can imagine what Win 7 woudl look like, now I'm drooling, must boot camp. Think I'll do that now, as it looks like no sleep tonight - Stephen Pickering
Time to get a DVD out - Stephen Pickering
anyone have a blueray player? - Tyler Gillies
Oops, what happened? Screenabstract from iPhone after firing the device up? :-) - Mark Jacobs
is it worth the upgrade? - Tyler Gillies
@Tyler not only blu ray looks great, but most players will also upscale dvds to make em look great - Sebastiaan van den Akker
is blueray 1080p? - Tyler Gillies
most blu rays are 1080p, some earlier ones were 720p... check the box... it usually says if is 1080p - Sebastiaan van den Akker
I hope Apple finaly introduces blu ray support in snow leopard. - Sebastiaan van den Akker
apple is really getting uncreative with their naming schemes. leopard to snow leopard? - Tyler Gillies
100 mbps would be nice. i have 3 - Tyler Gillies
does perian have blueray? - Tyler Gillies
here in the netherlands, they don't even sell movies yet or tv shows, or you can't rent movies either... so that sux, no blu ray support.. As far as i know, macs with vlc or perian can play ts mpeg streams.... thats not the issue - Sebastiaan van den Akker
100 mbps? I have 256kbps - Yuvi
is that isdn? - Tyler Gillies
It's ADSL - Yuvi
DSL rather - Yuvi
i live on an island i think the highest we have here is 11 mbps - Tyler Gillies
I could've taken 2 mbps, but that'd be capped at 2.5 gigs a month :( - Yuvi
I have 20mbps connection, but it doesn't go no faster than 6mbps cuz of the distance to telephone adsl switches - Sebastiaan van den Akker
yeah benjamin buttons is 7.36 gigs - Tyler Gillies
Yes, I know. That sucks. That's why I'm on 256kbps uncapped. - Yuvi
Pandora is geotarded to the US. Youtube is shitty :( - Yuvi
geotarded LOL - Tyler Gillies
Watching a YouTube vid goes like this - click on play, click on pause, wait for it to download (at approximately 1s/s, so for a 8 min vid, I'd have to wait 8 mins), then watch :( - Yuvi
i prefer grooveshark over pandora - Tyler Gillies
I'd suck (with buffering) even if It was direct. With a proxy, no chance! - Yuvi works though. - Yuvi
Well, there're two new providers offering 1.5mbps - Yuvi
In all fairness, there are 16Mbps connections available for Residential users now in India. The problem is they are fixed data limit (20 GB) and fairly expensive (~$60/mo). And 3G EVDO Data Cards with 3.1 Mbps are available as well but again, expensive ~$13/mo for 1GB, ~$25/mo for 10 GB. - Parth Awasthi
+1 Parth. 20GB at 16Mbps is laughable. - Yuvi
you got that right. - Parth Awasthi
It's not because I'll use those 10GBs in a week at most and then I'll pay $4/GB. In three more weeks, I'll be running a huge bill. - Parth Awasthi
Wired broadband connections are all DSL or Cable. FTTH is non-existent. - Parth Awasthi
250GB per month at a monthly price? I was earlier at 256Kbps to 2Mbps 1GB/monthly cap at $5/month. Now shifted to 256Kbps constant uncapped at $15/month. - Manish Sinha
Yuvi: Airtel is providing 16MBps for home, but it was a joke. 20GB cap on 16Mbps line is a joke. Even if you bit mistake hit download and it gets download before you can cancel, then you have wasted a lot from your allowed cake. - Manish Sinha
Parth: Those 3.1Mbps data cards is a joke. I never got more than 350Kbps ever. To add insult to injury TataIndicom projected in their ads... "3.1Mbps data cards 10GB unlimited"...WTF is "10GB unlimited"??? - Manish Sinha
@Manish: Me on the same plan too! :D - Yuvi
Manish, the speeds one gets on EVDO are very highly correlated to the signal strength. I have used BSNL EVDO and I consistently got upwards of 1Mbps. - Parth Awasthi
Best. Fr'eet*. Ever. (*FriendFeed Tweet) - Pat
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Orange - Chad McCoskey
The Apple store in SF doesn't own the window on the side of their building, which can lead to this: - RobinDotNet
And gizmodo is blogging live at the event today. if you're interested. - RobinDotNet
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We have the "We'll be back soon" sticky - IT'S GO TIME! - Mike Bracco
Someone's really trying to keep the doctor away.. - JonSupermurray
ROFL! DYSP! - Jim #teamFFrank
Microsoft. - Sharron Field
See, that's just how a Mac gets a sad face :( - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil. Evil.... more... - Mark Jacobs
Imagine ~ Create ~ Play ~ Apple. - Kryptic
Jannifer @wordsforliving
Gizmodo - Pillow Keyboard For Napping On The Job - Pillow keyboard -
Gizmodo - Pillow Keyboard For Napping On The Job - Pillow keyboard
Oh Wait - I may need this... lol - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Louis Gray
Web 3.0 is about taming the deluge of data. -
3 Oh No. - phil baumann
I thought that web 3.0 was the semantic web or basically when we can tell the computer what we need w/o the quaint interfaces that we have today - Stuart Miniman
wondering if a whole bunch of people are over at wikipedia right now trying to nail down if we are calling it web 3.0 or 2010 Web. LOL - Peggy Dolane
That said, it is an interesting post. Thanks for calling it out. - Peggy Dolane
Oh, he means the 2010 Web. Nice post though. The BooneOakley YouTube only website is interesting. - Mike Elliott
Is that *all* Web 3.0 is about? What about truly rich internet applications for mundane jobs like accounting, customer care, online ordering (where things do not collapse and my input does not end up in a bit bucket somewhere), much more semantic support, environments, languages and tools with which new applications or front-ends to existing ones can be built quickly and where software engineering gets close to physical engineering in terms of discipline, reliability, quality and so forth. - John Apps
Well, you could call it Web 3.0.2009.6.3 I think there is an upgrade to .4 tomorrow. stay tuned.... - Mike Nencetti
sorry, got carried away. we are still on 2.X.2009.X.X correct? - Mike Nencetti
Was I supposed to back those files up? ooops... - Mike Nencetti
Louis Gray
#BlameDrewsCancer made it in the top ten trending tags on Twitter.
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kinda weird if you consider twitter has (supposedly) 10s of millions of users... - Jeremy Toeman
I don't think it takes that many users to trend a topic compared to how many users are actually on Twitter. - Rahsheen
in January it only took 500 posts in an hour to trend on Twitter. (know from personal experience). Wonder what the threshold is now? Anyone? - Peggy Dolane
Lucretia Pruitt
@refollow - really loving your tool. It's the first one ever that came close to what I really need... maybe better even! :)
Cool. Missed this in your tweetstream, but thanks to Alex Scoble liking it on ff, I'm discovering refollow today. - Peggy Dolane
Tamar Weinberg
I'm on FriendFeed and baby is on my shoulder!
Whats his username? - Amit Morson
He doesn't have one yet. - Tamar Weinberg
Starting young! Can he even see that far yet? - Martha
cuuuuute... and is that a dell e1505 on your desk? - Jim #teamFFrank
Awwwwwwww! - Josh Haley
=D - David Cook
Adorable!! There is one hard workin' Mommy! - Susan Beebe
Awwwwwwww - DGentry
Yeah, you issue a birth certificate, gmail, twitter and FF accounts before receiving the new baby gift package. - Amit Morson
OMG - How cute is he! - Charlie Anzman
He's just exhausticated, Momma. Being cute is hard work! - Yolanda
Jim: a Dell M1710. And as for FF/Twitter: I'm still debating. He mostly enjoys leaning toward me, not toward the computer screen! - Tamar Weinberg
Robert Scoble
To my 39,000 followers on friendfeed I pass you 39,000 kisses. Considering only 11,841 people live in Half Moon Bay, where I currently live, I think that's pretty cool. Oh, and I don't ghost post like Guy Kawasaki does. Every single post here and on Twitter is written by me and me alone. Well, except for that time that Arrington got my iPhone...
Redirects from Friendfeed to Twitter count as "written" as well. - Louis Gray
...he typed "I am an idiot." Ahh, the fun we have with each other. - Robert Scoble
So.......... I didn't get a kiss from Scoble?... *sigh*... - Johnny
*blush* - Rodfather
I never had any doubt that your a real person and not a team of PR agents. And thank you for checking out my blog. (Sorry it's crap) - dthree
Robert - The kiss thing's kind of scary - a hug's fine... :) - Jim Connolly
Got a post into the "Best of the day" for the first time today and now I've been kissed goodnight by Scoble. Be still my beating heart. - Sharon McPherson
Really a nice firm handshake will suffice ... - Brent - Yes I am
Saying posts are human-authored is precisely what a bot or ghost writer would say, now isn't it? - Bob Morris (polizeros)
Thanks for the kisses - and all those other stuffs. - Chris Loft
Robert: Are you running for Friendfeed's mayorship position? might be interesting... - Nir Ben Yona
Nir: mayor? Heheh. - Robert Scoble
hahaha wave as you leave port :) - Peter du Toit (S.Africa) from fftogo
To all those Robert-Scoble-followers: you can get some kisses from me too. Although I live in Amsterdam (600.000 inhabitants) it kind of felt like I had to experience that feeling too. Thank you Robert, for sharing this. :-) - Ton Zijp
I will like the post but pass on the kisses... thnx :) - ralphsaunders
Go see if my childhood house still stands in Half Moon Bay- 335 Filbert St. When i was there there were about 4 streets total it seemed, one stop light, and you ran through a field to get to the cliff that overlooked the beach. - Steve C, Team Marina
Thanks! - Sue Radd
Yea! Robert Scoble is the best! ❤ - We've been adopted! - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Don't we have to go out for lunch first? ;) - metalerik
You kissed a boy and you liked it...... ;-) - Scott W.
Beso's back at ya dude - JuneM
Aw shucks! how sweet, :) Robert loves <3 his FF buddies and we love him back! :) - Susan Beebe
LOL...Death to all Ghost Posters!! J/k, Kawasaki is cool, but Scoble is über cool! - Harold Cabezas
Guy Kawasaki is a duche... all he does is find lame links... say bla bla and links to alltop. Who the hell wants to go to a news website. That is so web 1.0 hasn't he heard of rss? - Kasper Retvig
Feelin the love over here in Idaho. - Robert Freeze
Robert, I unsubscribed and unfollowed Guy just the other day because he just doesn't 'engage'. There is next to no conversation from him/his PR agents, and pretty well everything is just links back to his websites. I have no problem with people marketing their websites, but I want conversations, not just link vomit. - travispuk
Aww, and I'm not even in SF right now! Hola desde la pintoreca Buenos Aires. - Jesse Hattabaugh
Leo Laporte
Does today's hush-hush meeting of newspaper executives violate antitrust law? - By Ben Sheffner - Slate Magazine -
Antitrust law is complicated, but one principle is very simple: Competitors cannot get together and agree on price or the terms on which they will offer their services to their customers. It doesn't matter if the industry is ailing or if collusion would be "good" for society or necessary to preserve democracy. An agreement regarding pricing is "per se"—automatically—illegal under Section 1 of the Sherman Act, the main federal antitrust law. - Leo Laporte
Let 'em do it! That just means their demise will be fast. I do not want to see it, but that's their choice - Patrick Hall
Leo Laporte
Shhhh. Newspaper Publishers Are Quietly Holding a Very, Very Important Conclave Today. Will You Soon Be Paying for Online Content? - James Warren -
It's now safe to wager that most attendees, who were scheduled to include Michael Golden of the New York Times, Gary Pruitt of McClatchy and Tom Curley of the Associated Press, will be dragged into charging for at least some online content. Cross one's fingers that a dirty little industry secret, namely the qualitative decline of many papers (the New York Times a notable exception) amid rampant cost-cutting, doesn't now give even long-loyal consumers legitimate pause about paying up.   Ultimately, many in attendance will start charging for some online content because they don't know what else to do. - Leo Laporte
I think it's a foregone conclusion, from the rumbling I've heard from various blurbs from owners, that this will happen, furthering their demise. Change, it is coming. It's coming fast. - Eric - Final Countdown
if there were more devices like the kindle but with colour e-ink, then there would be an effective paradigm where this business model may work well. but in the face of internet web browsing i don't see where this could be a good idea. - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
NFW. That is all. Until they stop trying to maintain a business model based on putting yesterday's information on processed pulp and paying union workers to apply ink and deliver the processed pulp products to doorsteps and retail locations, there is no way I'm paying for stale repurposed content. The cost of gathering, redacting, fact-checking, and editing news is low. Turning into toxic waste is costly. Stop doing that, and the price per cognitive artifact becomes very attractive, indeed. --Ax - Alan Chamberlain
Curious to see how this might affect online discussion. Suppose all major and many secondary publications charge to view content. How many links can you afford to follow? What does it mean to the level of public discussion when some portion of the public can't participate because they can't afford to get access to information or news? - Will King
Powerful idea, newspapers organizing about paid content. Seems like the NYT has already figured out how to moneitize their on-line content. Their ads are razor-sharp in targeting. Get that dang American Girl Doll ad every time I visit there (and a few other sites.) Consider, I have an 8 year old daughter who is an avid Am Girl doll fan, they are sure to be getting clicks that result in sales from their ads. - Peggy Dolane
I have to admit I'd pay for content if it kept actual journalism, especially investigative journalism (rather than opinion pieces) happening. Though I know I'm in the minority. One issue of course with respect to daily newspaper reporting is the access to decent journalism from public organisations like the BBC. Competition from those is going to make it really hard for newspapers to charge for anything aside from perhaps access to archives. - Quasar
Well I think that if the newspapers actually focused on accuracy in reporting instead of trying to keep up with whats going on in electronic media they may have stood a chance, but their accuracy has fallen greatly, so why pay for something when I can get (sometimes) better more accurate reporting for free... - Nathan McClain
Control + C then Control + P... It's not witchcraft, it's copy and paste baby... - Johnny
johnny: ctrl + p is print. ctrl + v is paste. in the apple world, replace ctrl with the command or apple key. - sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
I actually tried to give two of the newspapers I am interested in to have them push to my Kindle 2 every morning. One was more expensive than the print and the other hasn't jumped on board yet. I doubt I will be interested in paying for the content if it is all Web only based, too many reporters 'on' the street that is more current with the facts. Usually slanted to their view but then so are today's newspapers. - Gary
10 Reasons To Follow Corvida On Twitter -
Corvida Raven
Didn't read the post... of course I already am a big fan! - Peggy Dolane
Sharon McPherson
Wishing FriendFeed had a "Dislike" option.
It does - it's called 'Hide'. Much less antisocial! :) - Martin Bryant
I've said the same thing before. Some things i really disagree with but want people to read and come to their own opinions. I want them to know i found it interesting but disagreed - Jamie Vidamour
That's true Martin, but occasionally a post just begs for a quick "antisocial" response. :-) - Sharon McPherson
I'm not sure about this one, a brief negative comment is similar but doesn't create the same tidy summary for popular threads (put me down for 'is unsure about this' ;-) - immaterial
Peter, would you like the idea if "Dislikes" could be done anonymously? I can understand that some people, myself included, would be hesitant to use the feature for fear of making someone angry or hurting their feelings. - Sharon McPherson
I would love to see this button! It can't be anonymous, we have to much of that already, to me that would be like talking behind someones back. If you don't like something & want to say so, then put your ID on it or you just don't count. PS. I like this. LOL! - Sheryl Loch
+Sheryl - Sharon McPherson from email
dislike is a good idea. its not "antisocial" - we need to get over the fact that not everything we all do is always liked by all people all of the time. not everyone gets a trophy. - Jeremy Toeman
Dislike doesn't work because it assumes that the Like button means that you approve of a post when, in reality, you're just wanting to share it with others. People have been wanting to change the name of the button for awhile now and I'd like that to if for no other reason than to erase this idea of a needed obverse. - Akiva
I think if someone hits the LIKE button then they LIKE it. If they just want to share it with others then that is what I (think) the SHARE button is for? - Sheryl Loch
Commenting on a post shares it with the people who follow you just as well as a 'like' does. Why offer up redundant functionality of a 'dislike'? - FFing Enigma
Sheryl, go back and do some searches on the subject: Like does not mean 'approve'. People have been over this many, many times. The share button is mainly used (as far as I know) to bring posts into and out of Groups. - Akiva
90% of the time, I use the Like feature as a way of bookmarking something for later reading or referencing, whether I "agree" with the post or not. - Sharon McPherson
Sharon, if you use Like more as a bookmarking feature, then why would you want to Dislike something? To anti-bookmark it? - Akiva
There's no need to reshare something to your feed when liking/commenting on it does the same thing. - Rochelle
Akiva: No, there are times when I disagree with or dislike a post, but don't comment on it because of lack of time, or the stamina to get into a drawn out back and forth exchange. Just thought a dislike function would be a quick, simple way to voice an opinion without having to comment. - Sharon McPherson
Would just like to add, I do see the potential for abuse and misuse of such a feature, as evidenced from some Stumble and Digg users - Sharon McPherson
Sharon, that's one of the reasons I'm strongly against it. - Akiva
So if there is a racist joke posted and I press the Like button (even though I don't approve, I just wanted others to see it) how many people will think I approve of this type of joke? I bet I would get all kinds of raciest wanting to be my friends & those that were made fun of would not be so kind as to believe I was just bookmarking. maybe FF should make Approve & Disapprove buttons. - Sheryl Loch
Why would you want others to see a racist joke? I wouldn't think you'd want to promote that kind of thing. - Rochelle
Just like a scammer, you may want to let others know that this person is out there - if you ignore bad things it doesn't make them go away yet, others may not be aware of the problem. That is where a Dislike button could show my followers that I don't approve but, they can have a heads up. - Sheryl Loch
I used to be in favor of a "dislike" button, but now I think it needs more subtlety. When you like something, that's unequivocal, but when you dislike it you need to specify some sort of reason. My big question for the people in favor of the 'dislike' button is: how would you resolve conflicts where some of your friends liked it and some disliked it? - Nathaniel Thurston
this is not a good idea. either comment or hide. anything else goes against the grain in such a way that it would make this place very unFriendly™. - Carlos Ayala
AFWIW this comes from the self-proclaimed king of Hides. i dislike stuff all day long. - Carlos Ayala
yeah but you might hide something you dont dislike. i too wish it had a dislike option, and that it would learn what i dislike.... - Justin Long
If you don't like something, why would you want to share it with your followers? They follow you because they like what you're interested in, not what you're not interested in. There's too much over-sharing already, no need to catalog the infinite amount of things that we don't find interesting. English is a natural language anyway: if, in a specific context, most people know that... more... - Mark Trapp
for example, hide all political discussions... or hide all lolcats... or .... - Justin Long
I dislike spam, and I sure wish I had a convenient way to share my dislike of spam with others here - Nathaniel Thurston
Justin, I had an idea along your lines, allowing friends to classify stuff by "negative group". - Nathaniel Thurston
I dislike this. - Rob
Would be handy for gauging if you are hitting on a meme or not, although the lack of any likes would also indicate that what you are sharing is not hitting a meme, or is generally interesting to people. - Dan owns
Nathaniel, share it into the FF Spam Room: - Rochelle
No. In the racist joke example (firstly, I mostly agree with Rochelle, I'm not sure why I'd want to share it with my friends), but if I did want to share it but not express approval of either the content or the fact that the person posted it, I'd comment on it. That shares it, expresses dislike, and doesn't express any meanings of "like." I don't want a button whose sole purpose is negative. - Jandy
To be honest, when I posted this I wasn't even thinking of being able to alert my subscribers to my 'dislike'. More like a way of letting the poster know that I didn't like or agree with the post, without getting into a "discussion" about it. But, as I said above, I see the possibility (probability) of abuse with such a feature. - Sharon McPherson
Very good thread Sharon, This whole thing brings into light a real sore subject about Political Correctness, the harm that lying about how you feel to others is really deteriorating our country as a whole. If your website is crap but everyone is telling you it's great is that helping you? I think a dislike button on allot of things would be great. If you were constantly getting negative reviews smart people would take that as an indication to change. - Brad West
"Political Correctness is a doctrine of behavior, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." I understand the abuse but that goes with anything, If you can't stand behind what you say your word means nothing. Sorry about the big words! - Brad West
But if someone's website is crap, hitting a "dislike" button isn't helpful. Leaving a comment with constructive criticism is helpful. Basically, I think disliking is better expressed by commenting. Liking is sharing and/or saying "thanks for posting this." I don't see a need to say "I hate that you posted this" unless you have some comment to make about it. Hide it and move on. Life is... more... - Jandy
cool that is a great idea you need to leave a 50 work comment if you use the dislike button, make people stand behind their feelings and thoughts - Brad West
I post things here because *I* find them interesting, not because I'm looking for feedback and criticism from other people. I really couldn't care less if you don't like what I'm posting. Hide it or unsub from me. - Rochelle
Jandy: Yes, I can see how it would be. Starting to see how a 'dislike' button maybe isn't the best way to express ones dislike. And now that I see the 'different' ways people interpret a 'like' I will probably be more selective in how I use it. Rochelle: It wasn't one of my friends posts that I wanted to dislike, but a FOAF. Guess it's time for me to figure out how to use the filters better. - Sharon McPherson from email
But, Sharon if you Disliked something I would take note because I trust your judgment. I may or may not agree but, I would likely look at the post so, I could be aware. To many blogs post that you should come here & Like everything so it all leads back to your profile, so does the Like button have any use if we don't know why people pushed it? - Sheryl Loch
Thank you for the vote of confidence Sheryl. I don't know, I guess everyone has their own reasons for using the 'Like' button. Like I said, I use it mostly as a bookmarking function for posts I come across and want to be able to get back to later. But then, not all people use Twitter's 'Favorite' button for the same reason either. A matter of personal preference I guess, but it can send... more... - Sharon McPherson
Just posted my thoughts on this: "Like/Dislike Debate - A Case for 'Nofollow'" - Micah
a comment expressing "dislike" should suffice - Cee Bee
Cee Bee, but if you express dislike in the comment then you're spreading the original message. Perhaps there should be a way to comment without it appearing in your comments feed. - Nathaniel Thurston
No wouldn't want a negative feature like that. If you don't like it then, erm, don't "like" it. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
I don't think the problem is just with the name like, it's silly to assume people can't figure out you're liking something that's not necessarily making you happy, but that you just want to point out. I also think there should be a way to mark stuff you don't like, possibly that you find offensive, or, especially if its posted to a room, think is off topic without bringing it into your feed for your followers. - Richard Lawler
Richard: Thank you, that's exactly the reasons why I suggested a 'Dislike' option. - Sharon McPherson
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