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Pranab Chatterjee
Paper Needed: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi... Email Id: pranab AT pranab DOT in. #IcanhazPDF
On the way. - Pawel Szczesny
THANKS! :-) - Pranab Chatterjee
Pawel Szczesny
Answer by freesci for When and why should short 454 reads be discarded? - http://biostar.stackexchange.com/questio...
When you sequence amplicons (samples amplified by PCR), reads below 100bp tend to be just primers, sometimes with a homopolimeric stretches in between. They can be of a high quality and as such, will make it through simple quality filtering. For a decent overview of errors you can stumble across in 454 see http://bioinformatics.oxfordjo... - Pawel Szczesny
Pawel Szczesny
Heard a great story today. Manuscript rejected 4 times (w/o review) because it had "too many Polish names on it". #cultureofscience
Matt, welcome to the world outside of the Commonwealth ;). In case anybody wonders, none of these were PLoS or BMC journals. - Pawel Szczesny
BTW, Neil says it happens down under too http://twitter.com/#!... - Pawel Szczesny
No way!!! - Björn Brembs from iPhone
I've heard similar anecdotes about reflexive dismissal of manuscripts because the authors come from a particular country or region, or because you can tell from the style and grammar that the authors' first language isn't English. I'd argue that this is reason not for hiding author names from reviewers but for making reviewer identities known. - Bill Hooker
how do you know it was because of the names ? - Pedro Beltrao
Pedro, experts in the field praised the idea when received privately the manuscript, yet it's being rejected within at most 6 hours from sending is (the shortest was 45 minutes) - it's clear that a gatekeeper didn't read past the title, author names and affiliations. The quote is actually from one of the experts - he mentioned exactly that reason as a major flaw of the paper. - Pawel Szczesny
My husband's cousin found that he had applications accepted when he wrote "Thor" instead of his real first name, Ihor. I wonder if, as an experiment, you could submit a paper as Paul Chesney - prove that the papers are getting rejected because of the national origin of the authors, and do some sort of expose? By the way, if any of these are US-based journals, you might even be able to sue or something. - Christina Pikas
Matt, thanks a lot for the pointers. I've forwarded them to my colleagues. - Pawel Szczesny
Pawel Szczesny
Looking for: Update on fetal hemoglobin gene regulation in hemoglobinopathies. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed... ps at pawelszczesny org Thank you!
sorry, no access... - Björn Brembs
Sent. - Bill Hooker
Thanks Bjorn. Got it Bill, thank you. - Pawel Szczesny from iPhone
peter murray-rust
What’s wrong with scholarly publishing? Your feedback – Why should journals exist? - http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr...
I'd really like to hear some arguments why we should keep journals. BTW, I've no updated my slides on scholarly publishing to contain the most up to date info I could find: http://www.slideshare.net/brembs... - Björn Brembs
Why destroy when you can fix? If we simply ignore all toll-access journals (meaning, never submit there or review for them) they will disappear, leaving a genuinely competitive marketplace of OA journals. Any system you propose to replace journals will have to be better than that alternative, or it's not worth building it. - Bill Hooker
@Bill what is value of having competitive journals? Why not have a single or perhaps slightly fragmented PLoS-like approach? Without journals we would have no impact factors. We can still have scientific editors and referees without journals - peter murray-rust
What would be the need for competition? Innovation? If the architecture of the hypothetical (library-based?) new system is open, any innovation can be brought about by the demand for it. - Björn Brembs
Publishing costs money, and competition reduces those costs. Even PLoS ONE charges more than it costs them, we know this because they are subsidizing the PLoS Glamor Mags. Getting rid of journals means essentially what Peter says, "a single or perhaps slightly fragmented PLoS-like approach" -- who is going to run that? I've seen enough of what happens when scientists run things to NOT want them running the publication business. Frankly I don't want them running a booze-up at my local. - Bill Hooker
I think *some* journals are useful in that they gather together articles of interest to a particular audience. Virtual or overlay journals serve the same purpose. - Christina Pikas
And not to split hairs, but what exactly is "a single or perhaps slightly fragmented PLoS-like approach" except -- a journal? If journals truly no longer exist, what is left -- that is, where do we publish -- on our blogs? How do we arrange for peer review? (And if you think we don't need no stinkin' peer review, head on over to Nils' SciPhu...) And what do we use in place of PubMed --... more... - Bill Hooker
In a perfect world I would imagine that I would be directed to all the most relevant scientific information/projects/results by some automatic algorithm that learns my interests over time and even anticipates potential directions for my research from analogies in other fields. All research should be conducted in the open and these filters would let me cope with the added abundance. In... more... - Pedro Beltrao
all journals are is databases. really... however, we do need these specialized databases for peer review, archiving, better access, and to feed systems like Pedro's ^ - Christina Pikas
In the short term, I think journals will still be around so that articles are grouped by subject area. In the long term, the article is the thing, and they will be floating around in the big cloud, and they will be virtually grouped by tags or subject headings or whatnot. Peer review will be done after the article is published instead of taking so much time before it is published. This... more... - Joe - Systems Analyst
Pedro describes exactly the system I've been asking for in the past years. The technology already exists, it only needs to be implemented. What keeps us from implementing it? Publishers with their journals. As long as there are journals in the current sense, there will be no 'Pedro's system'. The natural candidates taking over from publishers are the organizations which have hundreds of... more... - Björn Brembs
Journals exist for two reasons: communication and evaluation. "Pedro's system" is a system for managing information flow, not for evaluation of scholarly output and as such serves communication needs of scientist. On the other hand funders need a quick and relatively hard to gamble measure to evaluate scientists. Journals with their perceived impact are quite good at it (plus funders... more... - Pawel Szczesny
My reply to pmr's original question: http://bjoern.brembs.net/comment... :-) - Björn Brembs
@Bill_Hoooker I am not arguing that peer review should be abolished. I don't see why we need 25,000 different competing places where it happens (or often doesn't happen). And I use PLoSOne-Like to mean a place where discplines are not divided by journal, but where subject expertise exists within the whole. You clearly don't like PLoSONE but I don't know whether this is specific or... more... - peter murray-rust
@Bill_Hoooker "doesnt like PLoS ONE"?? :) - Peter Binfield
@PMR, as Peter B has wryly pointed out, I'm a pretty consistent booster of PLoS ONE. I'm just not convinced (yet -- willing to be) that wholesale slaughter of (Gold OA) journals is a good idea, or that I would want the entire scientific enterprise centered on one giant version of PLoS ONE. I'm a biologist: diversity is a Good Thing (TM) in my world. @Bjoern says "the technology already... more... - Bill Hooker
I think my main point here is that "Pedro's system", even setting aside Pawel's valid concerns about evaluation, is still some way off, and if we try to tear down the current system too fast we are likely to get something that is even further from what we want. Revolution always sounds good but it's usually ugly. Better, I think, to change the current system by killing off just the... more... - Bill Hooker
@Bill: All very valid points of concern - except one: I don't think we are even close to tearing down the current system "too fast", rofl :-) Actually, if I might hazard a prophesy, even if we all worked together and collectively tried to stage a revolution (like that would ever happen!), most likely an evolution would be all that came out of it :-) - Björn Brembs
Heather Piwowar
How about PLoS Currents: Open Science? - http://researchremix.wordpress.com/2011...
I gather that PLoS Currents could also support discussion-type papers. This could make PLoS Currents: Open Science a cross-disciplinary OA venue for Open Science perspectives. Few and far between at the moment. Other than, you know, *blogs* :) - Heather Piwowar
Dunno... I can see how it might fit, but I've been thinking of the Open Science landscape as a pretty wild-west kinda place, with one lab on Google Docs and another using PBWiki and someone else blogging and others on OWW and so on and on. If we can find a way to link these disparate systems, rather than looking to centralize things and keep "publishing" "papers" in a "journal", the... more... - Bill Hooker
Bill, the more I look at the scientific community, the more I like Heather's idea. Centralization, at least for some time, would help avoiding a waste time on re-thinking and re-implementing ideas from the scratch, as there could be _easy to find_ foundations to build on. PMR's recent posts (including the one you've commented on) sound pretty much like the discussion this community had two, three, four years ago. - Pawel Szczesny
Hmmm. Thinking again, now it seems I am the one trying to go too far too fast (see my comment here: http://friendfeed.com/petermr...). It will be a while before the "wild west" is tame enough for federated search, so in the meantime PLoS Currents: Open Science would make a good gathering place. - Bill Hooker
Pawel Szczesny
Genome sequence and analysis of the tuber crop potato - http://www.nature.com/nature...
It's been a long story and I'm happy it's finally out. - Pawel Szczesny
Andrew Su
How is it that nobody ever told me about RStudio before? awesome environment for playing in R...
I've commented on Twitter as well, but looks like somebody _tried_ to tell you ;) http://friendfeed.com/search... - Pawel Szczesny
wembley
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Brilliant. - Pawel Szczesny
Heather Piwowar
Please find me when you get on Google+. I really want it to be awesome... I need a FriendFeed backup plan!
I think Google+ is going to pretty much kill Friendfeed. All the features (plus some) but also with a future ahead of it. Plus absolutely everybody I know from here is already on there. - Mr. Gunn
What is really important that with Google Takeout you can easily download your own stuff from G+. Including conversations (!). - Pawel Szczesny
Mr. Gunn... "you incensitive clod!" a slashdotter would say... some here don't have invites yet, OK? :) - Egon Willighagen
So how does Google+ work actually with respect to aggregating content from multiple RSS feeds? - Egon Willighagen
Ah, Mr. Gunn, I should have known you don't know me. You are awfully fond of "death of" pronouncements, aren't you. (Not on Google+, no hurry to be there.) - Walt Crawford
Google+ won't kill Friendfeed until it supports importing. - Victor Ganata
I stand with Heather and agree with Victor: I *want* Google+ to be an adequate replacement for FF, but it is missing vital functions. - Bill Hooker
Iddo Friedberg
Sean McBride
What is the best interface for navigating a few million facts on a single topic, person, organization, etc.?
I wonder if you find anything freely available. Lots of intelligence software might do exactly what you expect but I didn't find anything to download - only screenshots or occasional videos. - Pawel Szczesny
I think it hasn't been created yet -- not even close. A possible fruitful line of development: Powermarks' incremental search interface, combined with Semantic Web concepts. (Powermarks has been defunct for a few years.) - Sean McBride
The key is to be able to look at an object through a thicket of millions of facts and assertions from any conceivable angle with very little effort and with great speed. To see all the important patterns and connections as quickly as possible. - Sean McBride
Google search results on any topic? Unbelievably primitive and unacceptable for doing serious research. - Sean McBride
DBpedia is nosing around in this area, but it hasn't hit the bull's-eye. - Sean McBride
I'm not sure - it's hard to judge when you don't have direct access to software to play around. I2 (http://www.i2group.com ) sells its solutions to FBI and they are quite happy with them. - Pawel Szczesny
Great pointer -- thanks. - Sean McBride
Analyst's Notebook. Right. I recall that Paul Wolfowitz was using it during the Bush 43 administration. - Sean McBride
Egon Willighagen
Seeking advice: I need a simple platform with OpenID user account support to build a Java web app to run in some cloud. What should I use?
Not sure if I get the question right, but AWS supports OpenID, doesn't it? - Pawel Szczesny
google apps ? - Pierre Lindenbaum
Pawel, no, I want the web app itself to have openID support.. I want to make a social website.. - Egon Willighagen
Google App Engine just hosts an app, not? I still need a simple toolkit so that I don't have to do any stuff for keeping accounts... - Egon Willighagen
Bill Hooker
Tags: venkatesh_rao interestingpeople - Bill Hooker
Thanks Bill for this find. Rao is one of the most original people I've stumbled across recently. - Pawel Szczesny
Cameron Neylon
Cat...meet pigeons: http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/News... Major funders announce plan to start top-tier journal #oa #openaccess
Hmm. This will be HQ because we say it will be HQ. And who are we to doubt. OA is interesting as a kind of clergy push from one end and introduce designedly quality journals while a lot of entrants presumably 'dilute' that (author-pays being the only business model with which they can get new titles off the ground). So can we hit them with sticks to do the right thing (i.e., using candidate standards and best practice docs, not just being open)? - Chris from twhirl
Its no more circular than the same arguments for other "top" journals really. But I think you can probably assume that standards and best practice will be pretty high on the agenda. Wellcome have a good record on that. - Cameron Neylon
Jesus H Christ. They haven't learned anything. "Top-tier journal"? Fuck. We may as well just give up. - Bill Hooker
They've learned some things, just not others...but remember what the core problem here is. Survey after survey tells us that researchers avoid going OA because there aren't sufficiently prestigious journals. This action goes directly to that issue, not really any other. And because it only seeks to change one thing it may well break through that barrier. Then there will be a clear... more... - Cameron Neylon
I don't buy it. After the success (and Impact Factor) of PLoS Biology, I don't see the point in another "prestige OA journal". If PLoS Bio and Medicine weren't enough to kill the "OA != quality" trope, this latest me-too won't help. At least PB/M were supposed to be proving a point; this is just jumping on a bandwagon. (And when is PLoS going to collapse all their journals into ONE? The experiment's done, time for the next step.) - Bill Hooker
An attitude from yesterday. HHMI PR blurb: http://www.up0.net/c... - Björn Brembs from iPhone
No, this is different for a couple of reasons. One it's coming straight from funders. That will make a hell of a difference in a way a third party play like PLoS couldn't. This is the people with the money. The other is that now that PB/M have broken down the barriers on the quality issue there is an opportunity to push further. Yes we know that that difference is meaningless but it matters for most researchers. - Cameron Neylon
Funny thing is of course I was at that meeting saying exactly the same things you are...never had so many Nobel Laureates disagreeing with me at once.... - Cameron Neylon
The other point is that the other message here isn't for researchers, its for publishers. Wellcome &c are saying that they're not happy with the current levels of service so they are going to do their damndest t introduce serious competition. This is a clear statement that the status quo of 6 month embargoes and or NC restrictions or high fees isn't good enough in their view.... - Cameron Neylon
Let's hope they spend the money on a decent, machine readable, semantic, journal platform, that really changes publishing and doesn't destroy scientific data, and let's up their ideal of a top-tier journal is not another Cell, Nature, or Science. - Egon Willighagen
And I am clueless how they will get *active* *top* scientists do a decent review in 1-2 weeks... - Egon Willighagen
By having topper activer scientists as editors to ride herd on them? No I don't know either... - Cameron Neylon
Coming from a different side, I think that such move might do much more for spreading the OA in countries in C&E Europe than most of the things done so far (because PB/M hadn't been sufficiently prestigious here, while anything branded by Wellcome, MPG and HHMI is perceived much better). At the fundamental level it's all wrong, but in short term it may translate into way quicker adoption, as it (as Cameron notes) significantly changes dynamics in the system. - Pawel Szczesny
I like "polished Gold OA" as the name for this. I understand Cameron's argument and Pawel's European corollary but I am still firmly on the curmudgeonly side of this one. How many Polished Gold journals will it take? How many more concessions and accomodations to publishers and to the Way It's Always Been Done? I don't care for this bit either -- "The long-term business model will be... more... - Bill Hooker
A couple of comments on this. First, regarding "impact" I'll keep re-stating my position that until we have a working sorting mechanism for post-peer review publishing we need the tiered journal system. Just imagine doing research with pubmed but no journal tittles. The flood of papers is really impossible to manage without filters and the tiered journals is our currently poor but... more... - Pedro Beltrao
Bill, while I again agree fundamentally with you, I think there's a small catch in here in the issue of expensiveness of prestige. PLoS had virtually no prestige when they started and I tend to think (but I have no data) that $3K per article wasn't enough to cover all the aggressive marketing they were doing to become prestigious. Institutions involved in here don't need to spend... more... - Pawel Szczesny
So where (physically) will it be based, if anywhere? I suppose Cambridge is too much to hope for as I look for jobs :\ - Chris from twhirl
More seriously, is there a limit to demand for OA? Presumably PLoS looked at that before starting. I just wonder if there'll be a squeeze. I also think that this enterprise's backers need to be stumping up for some serious storage for supplementary data deposition / sharing. - Chris
Apparently they will (anonymously) publish review comments... - Chris from twhirl
And while not on the subject, would this be a +circle or a +spark..? - Chris from twhirl
Pawel Szczesny
One step closer to open science - http://www.pawelszczesny.org/2011...
Comment in blog... - Egon Willighagen
Thanks. Replied. - Pawel Szczesny
Benjamin Tseng
Question: given Google+'s "circles" and active development, have we finally found a FriendFeed replacement worth using?
We will see once it's open for signups. - Pawel Szczesny
Hope so. Can't believe facebook never did it as it was always the missing feature / big issue (mates / colleagues / family / other parents / etc. all in one group). I'm guessing hangouts will just end up replacing the seedier functions of craigslist... - Chris from twhirl
Pawel Szczesny
SPORE series winner. Computational experiments for science education. - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez...
Content is CC-something... not sure about the source code yet... - Egon Willighagen
The site says "Free and open source". The code available in SVN repo https://svn.concord.org/svn... EDIT: found license, it's GPL. - Pawel Szczesny
Models are CC-BY-NC, though. Could be better. - Pawel Szczesny
Pawel Szczesny
I wouldn't mind if OpenAccessMap.org had an API or a way to download the data (what about sharing on on GitHub?). #oai7
Graham, it has been announced today, just a few hours ago :) - Pawel Szczesny
Nice find Graham. I wasn't aware of that. - Pawel Szczesny
Pawel Szczesny
On the technical tutorial on accessing prior versions of resources using Memento http://mementoweb.org/ #OAI7
Tutorial will have two parts: Memento and Open Annotation. - Pawel Szczesny
Slidedeck is available here: http://www.slideshare.net/hvdsomp... - Pawel Szczesny
If the prior version of the resource is available somewhere (any compatible archive or versioning system) the system will pull it out transparently. - Pawel Szczesny
International Internet Preservation Consortium http://netpreserve.org/about... - Pawel Szczesny
Prior versions can be also accessed from search engines caches. - Pawel Szczesny
Archiving systems are usually self-contained and do not know if the other archive contains complementing material. - Pawel Szczesny
Possible issue of spamming time archives or attempts to rewrite the history. - Pawel Szczesny
Branding the archives issue - user should know which archive provides the page (it doesn't need to be obvious, as the time negotiation goes through HTTP protocol, not API). - Pawel Szczesny
Memento provides a timemap (list of versions with timestamps) for any kind of resource, not only Wikipedia/Mediawiki (which has similar feature in its API). - Pawel Szczesny
Applications available now: FireFox plugin and Android application. Iphone/Ipad/IExplorer (?) in experimental stage. - Pawel Szczesny
Internet Archive is Memento-compatible. - Pawel Szczesny
After adding Memento to a service, one doesn't need to present links to prior versions within the page. - Pawel Szczesny
One could apply Memento to linked data. Already implemented in DBpedia. - Pawel Szczesny
You could do time-series analysis across DBpedia versions. - Pawel Szczesny
Pawel Szczesny
Obviously PLoS ONE's appeal process doesn't work.
For the background see this thread http://friendfeed.com/freesci... Two months after sending the appeal in my colleague wrote directly to the editor because nobody form PLoS got back to him. The editor sent him reviews again, without answering the complains. My colleague sent an email to PLoS ONE _again_ and yest another two weeks of silence. - Pawel Szczesny
Given the no-so-great experience people (including me) have with P1 recently, I must conclude that is not ready yet to become Mega Journal it aspires to be. - Pawel Szczesny
Growing pains? Or do you think there is something intrinsically wrong with their workflow? - Egon Willighagen
I wish I knew... Could be that in quality scientific publishing you can have only two of three: fast, inexpensive, low barrier. - Pawel Szczesny
My guess: faced with rapidly increasing submissions that outpace any and all attempts to increase the size of the "editorial engine", and still lumbered with the need to finance PLoS Everything Else, P1 is something of a victim of its own success. Rate limiting step is increasing the power of the editing engine: you can only add so many AE's, they can only handle so many mss each. - Bill Hooker
So, something wrong with the design of the workflow then, causing it to not properly scale. - Egon Willighagen
Bill, I think it's only part of the problem. Jan's issues http://friendfeed.com/jwessni... had nothing to do with AEs. However I could only speculate, because I simply don't know (PLoS hasn't been very open on its internals). PLoS should open its processing workflow to the community, so the community could help fixing it. - Pawel Szczesny
One of the manuscripts I handled as AE had a similar problem. I had requested an additional control experiment to rule out an alternative explanation that the authors did not find reasonable. The appealed, got a reply saying "we'll get right on it" and then didn't hear from them, for two months. Eventually I got copied on their complaints (apparently that's what some staffers there do... more... - Björn Brembs
Pawel Szczesny
This is The Open Science: https://github.com/ehec-ou... Annotation of E.coli O104:H4 Genome on GitHub, sequence data under CC0.
Contributions come from industry and academia. - Pawel Szczesny
Some of the analyses are of very low quality, or simply wrong (mainly from the company that set up this wiki). Nevertheless some consensus appears to emerge, as more experts join in. - Pawel Szczesny
Well, fork off then! :) - Egon Willighagen
The analyses are in the wiki? GitHub Wikis can be forked, though only through Git itself. - Mike Chelen
Daniel Mietchen
Anyone know of examples of extensive amounts of supplements to published papers? Especially looking for multimedia supplements.
http://dx.plos.org/10... seems to be the current record holder at PLoS ONE, with 43 supplementary files. No multimedia, though - just figures and tables. http://dx.plos.org/10... has 27 supplementary files, of which 24 are videos. - Daniel Mietchen
Yes, Neil, and thanks. I was asking a bit in the other direction because the Neanderthal genome paper was already on our list. If anyone knows of a supplement exceeding these 175 pages (which includes 51 figures and 58 tables), though, please share it here. - Daniel Mietchen
Thanks for pointing me to the Neanderthal paper. Used the info in a presentation today. - Martin Fenner
Just noticed that the above comment by @neilfws is gone. I was sad to see him leave, but I understood the reasoning behind that. I do not understand why he deleted the account. For the record, the paper he mentioned is at http://www.sciencemag.org/content... . - Daniel Mietchen
What happened to neilfws? - Björn Brembs
Bjorn, Daniel I assume he simply forgot the lesson of Eva Amsen (she also left FF deleting account) assuming that it's like the Facebook - you delete account and everything stays anyway. - Pawel Szczesny
Pierre Lindenbaum
I'm looking for a cartoon published here on friendfeed TLS, a few years ago. On one side we could see some scientists "2.0" having fun and on the other side, the "gray" scientists "1.0" not having fun BUT writing some papers. Any link ? Thanks.
yes! Many thanks Pawel (and Neilfws on twitter) - Pierre Lindenbaum
Pawel Szczesny
Talked to nice people on the internet. Found them on the OKFN Open Science Working Group conference call.
Thanks Graham. I will definitely try. - Pawel Szczesny
Walter Jessen
Looking for a Nature Genetics paper: http://www.nature.com/ng... Please send to walter@highlighthealth.com - Thanks!
On the way. - Pawel Szczesny
Thanks Pawel! - Walter Jessen from FreshFeed
Daniel Mietchen
What would research funding look like if it were invented today? Let's start collecting materials. (via http://friendfeed.com/danielm... ).
The basic structure for this part iii of the "what would X look like if invented today" series is in the mind map at http://www.mindmeister.com/3016825... , with background via http://friendfeed.com/search... . Main points: More flexibility in the models of funding, more attention to technological shifts in the way people (including scientists) communicate. Such has also been argued at http://ff.im/9GGRn and http://2020science.org/2009... . - Daniel Mietchen
Just noticed that we used different notions of "public funding environments" in the mind map so far. What I had in mind was to have "funding environments" in public, much like what fundscience.org plan to do. Some of the added comments seem to have used the term in the sense of environments for "public funding". Both notions are certainly valid, and we should think of ways to keep them apart. - Daniel Mietchen
good point re making this difference clear(er) in the map - Claudia Koltzenburg
I would like to see a lot more funding of contests - Jean-Claude Bradley
Yes, Jean-Claude, contests and prizes with a competitive element are definitely on the list. If you have good examples from the recent past, please post them here. - Daniel Mietchen
"More money for science is always good. Or is it? Six experts tell Nature what concerns them most about the US stimulus spending and suggest ways to ensure that it benefits research and society in the long term." - http://www.nature.com/nature... - Daniel Mietchen
Daniel -for a recent example of a contest for research: http://onschallenge.wikispaces.com/ - Jean-Claude Bradley
Thanks, Jean-Claude. It is noted along with http://www.claymath.org/millenn... and http://www.xprize.org/ as an effort to make the chain from achievement to award both shorter and more transparent than currently usual. - Daniel Mietchen
Daniel - the thing I like about contests is that barrier to participation is orders of magnitude lower than traditional funding - there is no need to convince anyone that what you are attempting will actually work before doing anything. Of course this limits the type of projects that can be run but it still applies to a large number. - Jean-Claude Bradley
Has there been any recent follow-up study to "Activities, costs and funding flows in the scholarly communications system" at http://www.rin.ac.uk/our-wor... ? - Daniel Mietchen
The Wellcome Trust weighs in on reforming science funding: http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story... - see also http://ff.im/bljS1 . - Daniel Mietchen
thanks for the pointer, Daniel - Claudia Koltzenburg
Let's not forget that http://www.submeta.org/ provided funding for http://onschallenge.wikispaces.com/ - certainly a "basic research" funding model that looks promising - Daniel Mietchen
One more: http://ff.im/cHoa5 on HHMI's focus on "people, not projects" - http://pazoulay.scripts.mit.edu/docs... . - Daniel Mietchen
Daniel, not that I have anything against HHMI, but that mantra is not exclusive to them. For example Max-Planck Society has exactly the same approach (and I would say that at 10% of HHMI's budget and having twice as much Nobel prize winners, MPG looks a bit more effective ;) ). - Pawel Szczesny
Didn't mean this to be exclusive, and I am well aware of MPG approaches (been there for a while). - Daniel Mietchen
"I wish there was a universal format for submitting grant proposals; authors could post proposals (once!) & then the funders bid on them." (rephrased from http://ff.im/5VwEI ). I would add that the process should be public. fundscience.org plan to go this way. - Daniel Mietchen
How do funders and scientists rank "more attention to technological shifts" against the "scientific expertise they have"? One says "change" the other "keep doing what you know"! Are those two things not disagreeing each other? In other words, who would you fund first, the "crazy new idea" or the "conservative stuff"? - joergkurtwegner
I would think funders should have (as they do now) the liberty of choosing their priorities, and in many cases this will be a mixture of many incremental projects and some revolutionary ones. The main shift in the system would thus be to have just ONE avenue for proposals, and to make it public. - Daniel Mietchen
On the role of rules in creativity and innovation: http://ff.im/cRs7K . - Daniel Mietchen
Interesting collection of thoughts on peer review, much of it relevant to funding: http://post.queensu.ca/~forsdy... . - Daniel Mietchen
Another interesting one: http://scienceblogs.com/cortex... . See also http://ff.im/cEiof . - Daniel Mietchen
Interesting: There is a chance that funders may actually listen: http://ff.im/fEqJG . - Daniel Mietchen
I'll let you guys know what their feedback was - I know Moshe Pritsker from JoVE will be at the NSF panel - other panelists TBA - Jean-Claude Bradley
Thanks, Jean-Claude. Further relevant post: http://ff.im/fGr3B . - Daniel Mietchen
thanks Daniel - excellent post - Jean-Claude Bradley
An image: http://ff.im/giuen and another preparatory post: http://ff.im/gpry3 . Plan to write this part III up over the next two weeks or so. - Daniel Mietchen
I am homing in on this one and think it would have greatest chances to have an impact if it could be provided in a format of a poster or a few slides that funders could be encouraged to reuse. Any suggestions as to formats suitable for this? The text will of course also be blogged (or co-blogged if anyone is interested) but I really want to make an effort to reach the target audience because that is where the most important changes have to happen. - Daniel Mietchen
One way to do this would be to take a depiction of the research cycle and add comments on every way in which funders could interact with it - perhaps colour-coding the long-term suitability of each strategy. - Daniel Mietchen
Anyone know a collaborative platform to edit posters, other than Google Docs? - Daniel Mietchen
"add comments on every way in which funders could interact with it" great suggestion, Daniel - Claudia Koltzenburg
I have started a Google Doc presentation on this at http://docs.google.com/present... . Everyone welcome to join in! - Daniel Mietchen
Document is all set up now (cf. http://ff.im/hc4YL ) and shall serve as one of several bases for discussion at http://ff.im/gaWDe . - Daniel Mietchen
An experimental description of the current state of research grant peer review is at http://ff.im/hsSJO . - Daniel Mietchen
Further finger training at http://ff.im/hsSJO and http://ff.im/hylRU and http://ff.im/hzyWW - these posts shall be linked from http://docs.google.com/present... to provide background information on individual aspects of research funding. See also http://ff.im/kipeU and http://ff.im/m39l9 . Further suggestions much welcome. - Daniel Mietchen
Planning to submit a proposal for an ESOF 2012 session on "Research funding 2.0" (or so; cf. http://ff.im/EhgP5 ), largely based on the materials collected here. Collaborators welcome! Some more food for thought: http://www.slate.com/id... . - Daniel Mietchen
Peter Binfield
PLoS ONE and the Rise of the Open Access Mega Journal - slideshare of my presentation to #SSP2011 http://www.slideshare.net/PBinfie...
I remain of the view that there are also very large opportunities for publishers getting into this arena to mismanage the process catastrophically...but will be very interesting to see... - Cameron Neylon
I wonder how much staff is needed to manage 22K submissions at a reasonable speed (obviously more than it is hired right now ;) ). PLoS is turning into Mega Publisher. - Pawel Szczesny
Also, in other exciting news today - we just hooked up with Mendeley to have a combined API Competition :) http://blogs.plos.org/plos... - Peter Binfield
Congratulations to the PLoS team but... would it not be prudent to shift the conversation from the large volume to the post-processing metrics ? I think at this point it is not worth keep pointing out that PLoS ONE is growing so much. I keep hearing from colleagues this idea of PLoS ONE as a "dumping ground" and people confusing the PLoS brand in general with PLoS ONE. Since PLoS is not... more... - Pedro Beltrao
+1 Pedro. - Bill Hooker
+2 Pedro - Alex Holcombe
Well, as you can imagine - it is on the list and we are working on these things as fast as possible! Unfortunately development takes time. In the meantime, part of the beauty of OA is that we dont have to build it all ourselves. We have our Search API and (very) soon an API for our ALM program. The combination of these 2 could be used by anyone to build the tools you are suggesting. - Peter Binfield
I would've had two questions after the talk: 1. Now that PLoS as a whole has been sustainable since 2010, when will the subsidizing of the community journals by PLoS One authors stop? I don't have cash burning holes in my university pockets and I'd rather only pay for my next PLoS One paper and not for the paper of a PLoS Biology author. If I'm paying for PLoS Biology, I'd like to publish there as well, please. - Björn Brembs
2. If the Mega-Journals become the new hype and (because?) people start to realize that container means nothing, why would people chose one journal over another (both for publishing and for reading)? Surely, the 'neuroscience' tag in PLoS One doesn't mean anything different than a 'Open Mega-Journal of Neuroscience'? - Björn Brembs
@Graham, will add that to the list of blog posts that I need to write..Bjoern two reasons presumably. Price and services offered, which would be a step forward in my view beyond current obsession with journal brand. - Cameron Neylon
lol @Cameron: that's what I'm currently writing a blog post on. From the description, services are identical (minus IF) as are prices. One more reason for PLoS to have 'realistic' pricing for PLoS One, IMHO! - Björn Brembs
I'd rephrase Bjoern's q1 as: now that PLoS has proven that OA journals can play the Glamor Mag game, PLoS Bio/Med etc have served their pupose -- so when will they be rolled into PLoS ONE? - Bill Hooker
Bill +1 - Egon Willighagen
And, closely related, when will we see a paper.li service for PLoS ONE? - Egon Willighagen
(Perhaps just a Mendeley/PLoS mashup tip!) - Egon Willighagen
+1 Bill & Egon :-) - Björn Brembs
Waiting to see some familiar names on the contest registrant list. - Mr. Gunn from Android
Pawel Szczesny
Interesting comparison between associations with 'openness' and 'transparency'. - Pawel Szczesny
Pawel Szczesny
Interesting comparison between associations with 'openness' and 'transparency'. - Pawel Szczesny
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