Would be nice if comments didn't move a post back to the top of my list. Coupling that with not knowing what's unseen wastes a lot of time or misses a lot of items.
The comments are where the conversation is... that's why it moves things back up in the queue. If you don't want to see the item anymore, click Hide and it will go away and make room for more.
- Her Lindsay-ness
But I personally don't care about the conversation, perhaps an option to stop moving it to the top, or a separate view to see only the posts with new comments.
- xero
Comment bumping is how I keep track of what has been commented on, so I know what I have or haven't seen. How would turning it off help?
- Tanath
It would help me, not you -- hence why it should be an option.
- xero
A lot of us do rely on comment bumping, but it can be avoided by just hiding items you have seen and are not interested in. I admit, it would still be nice as an optional feature.
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
I'm asking how it could help you. And how you'd avoid missing stuff without comment bumping.
- Tanath
Julian - I like the "set options" ourselves idea!, Cyvros - Like behavior has been adjusted by FriendFeed. If you like old items, they won't pop to the top (but "old" is set by an algorithm I don't know. Adjustments were made around May 6. Before that "liking" 30-day-old articles would pop them to the top.)
- Mitchell Tsai
"Like bumping behavior" notes - FriendFeed is trying to be smart. (1) I just "liked" 2 of Andre Stechert's http://friendfeed.com/stechert May 17 photos of his kids (Cooperative robotics labmate from UCLA 1994-95), and they bumped to the top of his page & the Friends feed (which was surprising - some posts bump only on personal pages, not in the main feed) Why? I guess since (a) he's not very active (b) doesn't have many likes (c) I haven't used up my Andre-bumping karma
- Mitchell Tsai
Like bumping behavior" notes - (2) On Scoble's account, I "liked" a 6-hr-old article and nothing happened, but "liking" a 2-hr-old Flickr picture popped it to the top. FriendFeed's using a creative algorithm to handle "like bumping". We probably should give them feedback on how to improve the algorithm - by giving them special cases where we want different behavior. (Again - Julian's "user-settable" idea is cool! But how do we mesh multiple people's preferences)
- Mitchell Tsai
"Like bumping behavior" notes - I forget who posted it, but someone a few weeks ago said that they would like to see different "bumping" behavior depending on whether they've been (a) active recently (b) haven't been on in a few days.
- Mitchell Tsai
@Tanath, bumping actually causes me to miss entire posts. I see several posts that were bumped recently and stop looking with the assumption that I've seen everything from that point backwards. I don't want to hide a post because I might want to look at it later, and I don't care about the comments on it, at least not right now. If we had a way to either "see new posts only" or "highlight new posts" or something similar, then the bumping wouldn't be an issue, it would actually help me potentially.
- xero
This is one of the things I like MOST about FF! When a story reaches a new user, and that user has something new to add, the thread re-appears, and there's a chance that this re-energised conversation will develop further.
- Iain Baker
i love the way ff bumps stuffs to the top when someone likes or comments it! please don't change it!
- Alessandro
Xero: What Robert Scoble wants is a user option (1) see all posts in strict time order of original posting (2) see posts in order by latest comment/like. Kind of like how "ls -t" and "ls -u" are different in unix ("time of last modification" or time of last access"). In this case "creation time" versus "last liked/commented time".
- Mitchell Tsai
Who said anything about Scoble? ;) Actually, that's basically what I want, just not dictating the way it comes about.
- xero
Having the comments move is annoying, more so in Twhirl, give right confused when it does that. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes