"Starting today, NPR Music is looking back at some of the memorable moments and recordings of the past decade. We'll have a lot of new features on the site every day for the next two weeks, starting with our Question of the Day from Carrie Brownstein on the Monitor Mix blog, and The Decade Defined on All Songs Considered. Next week on All Songs Considered, beginning Nov. 16, we'll feature our picks for the 50 most important recordings of the decade. As we compile the final list, we'd love your input. Using the comments section below, tell us what albums or songs you think should be included."
- Michael W. May
from Bookmarklet
"An important distinction: We're not looking for everyone's favorite albums or songs, but rather ones that had some sort of historical significance. These are the game-changers -- ones that signaled some sort of shift in music, or ones that were particularly influential in some way. We're looking for the albums and singles people will still buy, share, listen to and talk about for years or decades to come."
- Michael W. May
Interesting. I'm inclined to think that Outkast were the most important artists of the decade but I'm not sure between Stankonia and Speakerboxxx\The Love Below which is the more important album.
- Jason Toney
Jason, not gnarls Barkley? Although I guess I see outkast's speakerboxxx as an influence.
- edythe
from iPhone
Yeah. I don't think we get Gnarls without Outkast. Particularly Ms. Jackson and Bombs Over Baghdad (and, of course, Hey Ya) as genre pushers and barrier breakers between hip hop and indie/alternative sounds.
- Jason Toney
Yeah, that sounds right. Astute!!
- edythe
from iPhone
I seem unable to have an opinion. I'm trying. Nothing is opinionating.
- Michael W. May
Maybe it's too soon. I can come up with stuff easily for prior decades, but not this one.
- LogEx
"More than a month after two Kentucky public-library employees were fired after refusing to allow a child to check out The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Black Dossier, details surrounding their dismissal finally are emerging. In a lengthy article in the Lexington Herald-Leader, we learn the story didn't begin on Sept. 22, when Jessamine County Library circulation-desk attendants Beth Bovaire and Sharon Cook decided the graphic novel was inappropriate for the 11-year-old girl who had reserved it. Instead, events date back almost a year, when the 57-year-old Cook, appalled that children had access to the Alan Moore-Kevin O'Neill book, challenged its inclusion in the graphic-novel section, which apparently is tantalizingly close to Young Adult Fiction. When that didn't work, she checked the book out of the library -- and kept renewing it, effectively removing it from circulation, until Sept. 21. That's when Cook tried to renew Black Dossier again, only to discover the computer...
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- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
"Wilson's article includes plenty of background on the library's policies, and Cook's efforts to challenge the book according procedure, which required her to, y'know, actually read it: "People prayed over me while I was reading it because I did not want those images in my head." Cook and Boisvert contend the graphic novel amounts to pornography, and that the library could be committing...
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- RAPatton
If she has issues with Black Dossier, imagine what she'd think about the Lost Girls.
- RAPatton
While I agree that LXG:BD is not appropriate for an 11-year old, I don't agree with the de facto censorship of the book.
- Bill Sodeman
I wouldn't give it to my 11 year old, but you are correct in that it was not her decision to make
- RAPatton
This seems like a case that the ACLU might take up, and I wonder what the ALA would say about it.
- Bill Sodeman
Note that it says library employees and not librarians. There is a difference. Regardless, they shouldn't do this, but lets not malign librarians. I suspect their supervisor didn't know what they were doing.
- Katy S
Okay - just read the article Bill linked to. They aren't librarians, one claims that her manager supports her, but we don't hear anything from that manager. What they are doing (checking out the book and not returning it) is very common practice among those who want to ban books.
- Katy S
"Earlene Arnett, director of the Scott County Public Library, explains that "libraries take censorship very seriously. We also take the parent's role very seriously. I'm sure they don't want me to make their decisions for them."" That says what I would say well enough.
- Michael W. May
Katy - so noted. I've edited my comments and am wearing my hat of shame. :(
- Bill Sodeman
Happy Birthday! (Belatedly... no, you're birthday was right on time... it's just my birthday wish that's belated... am I overexplaining?)
- Mark Jepsen
Beautiful Shiba Inu pictures... having seen them at the dog park playing with Kiyomi, and familiar with the Japanese lore about the Shiba as well as the monument outside the Tokyo Metro station, Shiba and Akita are wonderful dogs! Do you have a Shiba?
- Ken & Kiyomi
No, I just love them from afar.
- cecily
from iPhone
"Comedian Katt Williams was arrested on burglary and criminal trespass charges in a west Georgia community Sunday night, according to a court official. Williams, 38, smiled broadly while posing for a mug shot photo at the Coweta County, Georgia, jail. His first court appearance is set for 4 p.m. ET Monday, where a magistrate will decide if Williams is eligible for bond, said Deborah Matthews, a spokeswoman with the Coweta County Magistrate Court. Calls to his manager and publicist were not immediately returned."
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
"Wool blend jacket with double-breasted military style button closures from waist to neck. 3/4 sleeves and oversized drape pockets with pleating detail."
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
from Bookmarklet
Oooh, nice. I love button front jackets with high necks like that :)
- Jennifer Dittrich
This reminds me of when Cartoon Network opened their vaults and showed all their controversial and racially insensitive Warner Bros. cartoons in a special, but then never showed them again. I wonder why Disney hasn't done something similar.
- cecily
from iPhone
Akiva and I were just talking about this a few days ago. Is it available to view anywhere now?
- Rochelle
from iPhone
There are bootlegs, Rochelle. It was released on laserdisc and in other countries, but not here. The last theatrical release in the U.S. was in 1986.
- Derrick
I can see why. But I did love those stories as a kid.
- Trish R
I've never seen the film, and I'm keen on reading the original stories by Joel Chandler Harris. I'd like to think that we can get to the point where we can view material that is racially insensitive WITHOUT all of a sudden blaming people. The movie was made in 1946, it's nearly 2010. Am I going to look at my non-black friends and go on an attack? Unlikely, but perhaps I give people too much credit.
- Derrick
I agree, Derrick, because the stories are written as being told by Uncle Remus, who spoke that way.
- Trish R
Julius Lester has written some interesting pieces about the stories and Harris. He's also re-written some of the stories. I <3 Julius Lester!
- Katy S
I'm not familiar with his work, but will check it out. Thanks. :)
- Derrick
He's on a children's literature list serve that I'm on. So are Jane Yolen and Philip Pullman and some other authors. I have to really stifle my fan-girl impulses when they post.
- Katy S
Derrick, I'm not so worried about (black?) people blaming anyone for the material. I'm more worried that if this movie becomes available, a million American people will automatically buy it and show it to their young kids, who will absorb the "happy darkies" stuff without realizing what's wrong with it. I'm torn about making complete sets available. There was some kind of WB DVD set...
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- Kamilah Gill
I've seen it, and find it amusing that they built an attraction around it (splash mountain) but bury the movie
- RAPatton
from iPhone
I've never actually seen the whole thing. I would probably buy it if it were available.
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
Kamilah - I'd be just as worried about adults' reactions to it as kids (for the same reasons)
- Katy S
It's funny to me that people are worried about reactions to this movie, when there are other movies out there where so-called "happy darkies" are integral parts of the storyline, but nobody would ever think to ban them. I'm specifically thinking of my (beloved) Gone With The Wind, a movie that's held up as an American classic (and rightly so). How is Song of the South more offensive than GWTW? It makes any protestations and any censorship/suppression moves by the parent companies seem disingenuous.
- cecily
And what about Dumbo? Can't you still get Dumbo on DVD? What about the crows in Dumbo?
- cecily
I agree, C. I do think Disney is one of those really overly cautious companies. Remember, the created the Touchstone Pictures umbrella to release movies that strayed outside of the cutesy Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Escape from Witch Mountain films, because we would get them so confused. And I love those crows.
- Derrick
Cecily - I've never seen Gone With The Wind, but I suspect I'd have a similar reaction. Dumbo just makes me cringe! I wouldn't censor anything, but I still think about how people react to the films.
- Katy S
Katy, I had to work hard to reconcile my feelings for GWTW. I love that movie, but it took me a long time to get there. What helped was trying to think of Prissy's inaction and "simplemindedness" as a form of slave resistance. If I'd never spent time reading slave narratives, I'd have never been able to come to that conclusion. </end_hijack>
- cecily
I'll tell you what movie really made me choke on my diet coke recently. I was watching Heidi with my niece. Somehow, this story that's suppose to take place in Switzerland, looked like it took place in a home that was on a Southern Plantation, complete with a mammy-character.
- Katy S
Dumbo and Lady and the Tramp are both questionable. I just think that Song of the South would get much more exposure, especially to children. It doesn't use animals for all of the racial stereotypes like the others. As for Gone with the Wind, I haven't seen it either, but I'd say it's more clearly aimed toward adults. Though I agree, with you, Katy. The adult exposure to Song of trhe South might be almost as problematic...
- Kamilah Gill
My extensive training with literature and critical examination of it helps me get through the parts that make me cringe. That critical distance thing. Having said that, I'd never give a child a copy of Little House on the Prairie. Just not going to happen.
- Katy S
I watch alot of old games shows and I gasp at some of the things they use to say..........
- VAL D.
I've still got the (original?) 78-RPM set that belonged to my Mom. We used to listen to the stories and songs as kids. "...it's the truth, it's factual; everything is satisfactual!"
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
from iPhone
I used to have that 78 too, but is long gone now
- RAPatton
from iPhone
Zip a dee doo dah is a great, fun song, but I think that's about all I'll need from that movie, thanks.
- Kamilah Gill
I loved Song of the South as a kid (Br'er Rabbit is a G). I always saw it as a kind of animated Huck Finn or Tom Sawyer. There was a time when I think not having the movie available was more political than anything. Now, I think it's just hard to market (and to what value? There's not a real way to make ancillary money from Consumer Products from the film).
- Jason Toney
Dumbo is coming out on Blu-ray in Feb, FWIW.
- Alix Whitmire
Animation fans have this discussion all the time. I think WB did a pretty good job handling it in its Golden Collection sets. In the first or second volume, they had an intro you couldn't skip that had Whoopi Goldeberg talking about how some of the cartoons were racist and that although no one was condoning that NOW, they were part of our past and better acknowledged than buried or...
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- Spidra Webster
How odd that you posted this, I just watched this movie last night. lol
- aerobroken
It seems to me that any racist ideology in Song of the South would be counteracted for children (like it was with me as a child) by the cultural attitudes of today. It was made in a different time and even kids today look at early WB cartoons and get something completely different from them than kids fro a generation ago did. I hope that someday they release it and let parents decide what is the best course of action for their own children.
- Kryptic
Katy, what is wrong with Little House on the Prairie? I don't recall anything bad in it but it's been a long time since I've read it.
- Rochelle
Yeah, what is offensive about Little House?
- Matthew DeVries
It's incredibly racist - even for its time. The Indians are described as grunting savages. Ma quotes that "the only good Indian is a dead Indian" line multiple times through the story. It's really foul. Unless you are prepared to discuss the racism throughout the book with the child, I'd avoid it. If you haven't read it since you were a child, read it now as an adult and try to put aside your fond memories so that you can view it with some critical distance.
- Katy S
Also, LHotP is still a popular read-aloud book in many classrooms. I wish it wasn't, because it is often presented uncritically. Imagine hearing the things in that book if you are an American Indian child.
- Katy S
I enjoyed imagining I was one of those savages who put up a charade of attacks to hide the true force that was forthcomming, twas not fun being picked on because of that book when I was younger, then I detailed to my peers the history of the Cherokee and Tsali. On the other hand, I actually like LHotP now and I enjoy SotS as well.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
Katy the same thing would apply to half of the John Wayne, Davy Crokett movies/books. America has been really slow at learning about other cultures and presenting them in a decent light. I think most of the stuff that's been written/read/etc needs to be put into context sometimes. I think the best thing to do is just continue to show by words and actions that the past isn't the way to treat or portray people
- Sir Shuping
Sir Shuping - I agree. These things should be discussed. The problem is, it rarely is with this particular book. It is taught and read uncritically. I didn't say I'd ban or censor the book, I just said that I wouldn't give it to a kid without discussing these things. Sadly, this isn't done very often.
- Katy S
The thing about LHOP is that it's about settlers. It's about people who were "given" land that was taken away from the natives. It's built in to the story. That the characters (somewhat fictionalized versions of real people) called the indigenous people "savages" is only true to what was going on at that time. Teachers, parents, caretakers need to put that stuff in context. http://www.newyorker.com/arts...
- Spidra Webster
The success of some children's lit is interesting in that it is often based on what adults remember fondly. Little Black Sambo has never been out of print, despite the racism throughout it.
- Katy S
Oh I know you weren't saying ban or censor. But maybe my experiences are prejudiced, but even though I read LHOP, saw movies like Song of the South, Dumbo, etc. I never thought of it as showing me how to treat other people. I learned that from the people around me how others were supposed to be treated. Perhaps because we've lived through all of this turmoil and change in how races/cultures/religions/sexual preferences are treated things stand out a bit more (just my deep thought for the evening :)
- Sir Shuping
Spidra - That's true, but again I would say that this should be discussed with readers. My problem with the use of the text is the uncritical way in which it is used and taught, specifically in classrooms. And, most parents don't discuss these books critically with their kids. They just remember how much they loved it and give it to their children for that reason.
- Katy S
I think that's a valid criticism, Katy.
- Spidra Webster
I think it's easy for white folks to read these books and say that they didn't affect them (but, did they play cowboys and indians?), but that's like saying that the people of a minority group shouldn't be offended by something rather than letting them decide what is or isn't offensive. My point is, that Little House is just as bad as these other texts and images that have been...
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- Katy S
fwiw, I first read the book as an adult (although I was familiar with the tv show). I expected some racism just because of the time it was written and the attitudes at that time. I didn't expect it to be quite as bad as it is.
- Katy S
Oh - Louise Erdrich has been writing a really fantastic series of books to counter LHotP. The first book is titled The Birchbark House. Great book, and the writing is much better than Ingalls'.
- Katy S
I'm finding myself obsessed with some stuff where I expect there to be some racial attitudes indicative of the time: Uncle Tom's Cabin, Gone With the Wind, The Confessions of Nat Turner, Sapphira and the Slave Girl, etc. I need to give these all a re-read to give me something to chew on. I always find myself in a curious state when seeing non-black people write about black people.
- Derrick
So fascinating. For the record, I hate Gone With the Wind but love Dumbo and recall liking Song of the South, although that was (obviously) years and years ago. My mother read me the Laura Ingalls Wilder books without comment, though I've since gone back to them and seen that they have Problems. She did, however, upon giving me the Little Colonel books, say, "Now, there are things that...
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- laura x
I haven't re-visited Song of the South since I was a child. I do remember feeling very comforted by Uncle Remus. There was a gentleness to him that was, frankly, missing in a lot of my surroundings. I didn't know enough to know that his way of speaking and singing would be racist... i may be mis-remembering, but I seem to recall that it was 'fun'... playful language. Older, sadder and wiser, I'd now be prepared to revise my take on Song of the South.
- T. Brent, technopeasant
I had a Song of the South album with story/songs from sometime in the 70s, as well as a few other Disney records. Probably acquired at a garage sale.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Walt Disney actually campaigned for the lead actor, James Baskett, to be considered for an Oscar.
- Melanie Reed
totally with you on the crows in Dumbo. But, um, yes, i love them. for what it's worth, as a child i saw them as funny, weird crows and funny, weird crows only. It was only when i saw Dumbo again as an adult that I noticed that perhaps they weren't just crows.
- edythe
Derrick, I'm glad. Especially in the case of GWTW. I often find people most opposed have not read the book. There is a very pivotal scene that defines freedom and the motivations of one of the lead characters that most people miss.
- Melanie Reed
I did not remember that Hattie McDaniel who won Best Supporting Actress for GWTW was also in Song of the South
- Melanie Reed
Right now I am grading student essays for Othello. They have to create play review forms for each play and aside from some regurgitation of the text and the events, they do have cover motivation and are encouraged to set up arguments based upon the attitudes of the time which are pertinent to the understanding of the play. My point is that this play is going to also be a touchstone. What do we do about portrayals in literature ?
- Melanie Reed
Derrick, Also, my other question is about Joel Chandler Harris who collected the Brer Rabbit stories but did not originate the idea. He is considered a folklorist. Should those stories be preserved or should they be forgotten. Is there something to be lost if they are forgotten? What are your feelings about that?
- Melanie Reed
The grandmother points out a "pickaninny" in "A Good Man is Hard to Find." While reading this to my ninth grader--mainly second-generation South Americans (this was in 2000, in Miami)--there was a collective gasp when I read that word. I took that as a good sign. I did not use it as a "teaching moment," however. I said, basically, "this story was written in the American South of 1955....
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- edythe
Otoh, were we reading The Great Gatsby, I'd have a lot more to say about the depiction of Jews and blacks, as it doesn't have much to do with giving you insight about the book's characters. Similarly, If the part in AGMIHtF was written as, "They drove past a pickaninny," I'd feel differently and perhaps would not have read it to them at all. But then Flannery O'Connor would also be a different writer and... well, you get what I'm saying. Well, I hope you do, anyway.
- edythe
Wow, I had never heard the term "pickaninny" before this thread.
- Alex Scoble
Joey and I had this conversation while waiting in line for Splash Mountain. I would really like to see the movie since I can't remember ever seeing it before (other than the classic zippity-do-dah song). I do think it's kind of funny that people are somewhat against releasing the movie - there are far more offensive things on the interwebs (godhatesfags.com and kkk.com come to mind)
- Kyle Johnson
I am, clearly, a white woman and, of course, have always been so. That may may make me ignorant with respect to many things, although I have always tried and continue to try to pay attention and to be as aware and as sensitive as I possibly can. I am good at putting myself in other people's shoes and I do try to do it as much as i can and to listen. What I'm trying to say, really quite awkwardly, is that if my attitude above seems shockingly dismissive of the Flannery O'Connor scene, please tell me so.
- edythe
Oh, and, Cecily, I very much like your interpretation of Prissy's simplicity being a form of passive resistance!
- edythe
Here's what SOTS says to me: that there is courage in horrible circumstances. That there is joy that survives the deepest pain. That humor is stronger than ignorance. And that if you destroy that you let them beat you.
- Melanie Reed
And yes, Cecily, that is exactly what Margaret Mitchell was saying in Prissy. :) Besides, don't you just kinda clap and lol when she shuts the lid of the trunk and breaks all those dishes?! lol
- Melanie Reed
I watched the Japanese laserdisc version and I found it to be mostly harmless. I understand why it's a sensitive thing because of how the black people are portrayed, as happy slaves, but you have to take it in the context of the time from which it was made. To censor it, kind of goes against the grain of America, in my opinion. We need to remember our past, not cover it up.
- Alex Scoble
Edythe - that makes sense to me. There's a difference in age groups here. Your 9th graders can process what you said about the text more critically than the age group LHotP is written for (approx. 2nd graders). Plus, if you are examining other texts critically - like Gatsby - it's part of the pedagogy, so there is a connection. Actually, I think LHotP would be a great text to use with middle school and/or high school students to discuss these issues.
- Katy S
A quote from Flannery O'Connor, paraphrased (i'd love to know your thoughts): "The artist needs to let the devil have play in the art, lest the devil have play in the artist."
- T. Brent, technopeasant
There is nothing original about evil. It is a corruption of good which is in itself creative. Observing and accurately reporting that corruption does not necessarily arise from creativity. A confession from C. S. Lewis on writing the Screwtape letters: it was one of the most distasteful voices he had to adopt when writing it.. But he did it for a purpose. You can read about it in his afterword of the book
- Melanie Reed
I don't have anything to add (besides that when I bought Peter Pan and we watched it my jaw dropped...I guess growing up in the PNW counterbalanced the depictions of Natives that were in that film, because I completely missed that as a child). I read the Brer Rabbit stories when I was a child and I completely missed the subtext. The 'tar baby'...wow. But at the time I had no idea that...
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- joey
And for someone who doesn't have anything to add, I sure do ramble.
- joey
O'Connor's quote is definitely worth remembering, Brent.
- Christopher Harley
O'Connor is one of my favourite Southern writers. Of her contemporaries, she's one of the few whose black characters were multifaceted, complex individuals who had active lives outside of and away from whites. Even though the races encountered each other frequently in her work, black folk weren't just window dressing in her stories. In light of her work, I think Brent's quote is illuminating.
- cecily
Cecily, yes,there are a number of southern writers I appreciate that come to mind in particular Eudora Welty who wrote about living in Mississippi and was inclusive of all the lives she observed. Of her's my favorite is "A Worn Path". The concern I have with Ms. O'Conner is while her aim was not ambiguity, her aim was to highlight Grace, it became an issue- most exceptionally in her "A...
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- Melanie Reed
Not true. It was released in the US as a videodisc back in the 1980's. I got a copy ported over to VHS. It's a shame it isn't available in any other format though. It portrays black people as people with dignity and love in my opinion.
- Kevin Trotman
"It was the kind of place many New Yorkers dream about, the sort of impossibly beautiful apartment movie directors cast as home for “arty” characters who would more likely be living in a cold-water collective in Bushwick in the real world. For a time, it was Ms. Williams’s dream home. She and her husband, both of whom are in television production, moved in two days before Christmas in 2007 after a renovation, at the time not yet complete, that had already taken about a year. Two weeks later, Ms. Williams’s husband moved out. He was done, he told his wife, with the renovation, and the marriage. Perhaps there were unseen fissures in the marriage that the stress of the renovation cracked wide open; perhaps the 14-year relationship had run its course. Whatever Tolstoyan truth Ms. Williams and her husband embodied is not the subject of this story. (He has asked not to be mentioned by name.)"
- edythe
from Bookmarklet
"He was done, he told his wife." Where have I heard this before? oh yeah, Mr. R. "I'm DONE" D. That's what they say after 14 years...or five. Murr. At least I wasn't forced to sell my home. That still sucks, P., but you will have a new dream home--I know it.
- maidel
*grabs P in his arms, swoops around, does a dip and lays one on her -- in a platonic sense, of course* :D
- Derrick
kisses and much gratitude to Mai, Parth, Derrick, and Cecily. You are all too kind to indulge my moments of bitterness and self-pity. I wish it were not still there, but it is, a bit... Bless you for being kind instead of judging me harshly, because I looked back at this after I first posted it and thought, "Oh, Polly, now... *please.*" Derrick: :) :) :) :) :) :)
- edythe
"Marilyn Wann is an author and weight diversity speaker in Northern California who has a message for anyone making judgments about her health based on her large physique. “The only thing anyone can accurately diagnose by looking at a fat person is their own level of stereotype and prejudice about fat,” said Ms. Wann, a 43-year-old San Franciscan whose motto in life is also the title of her book: “Fat? So!”"
- edythe
from Bookmarklet
"Hers has been an oft-repeated message this summer and fall by members of the “fat pride” community, given that the nation is in the midst of a debate about health care. That debate has, sometimes awkwardly, focused its attention on the growing population of overweight and obese Americans with unambiguous overtones: fat people should lose weight, for the good of us all. Heavier...
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- edythe
"“The stigma is so heavy a burden that it took our community 40 years before it could go to Capitol Hill and lobby for ourselves,” said Ms. Wann, a member of the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance, an advocacy group that organized a lobbying trip to Washington for its members this spring. “We’re kind of a popular punching bag. You can do incredibly discriminating, hurtful, hateful things to fat people in public and not only get away with it but be seen as some kind of superhero.”"
- edythe
"If you have a job, and insurance that includes mental health benefits, you can find affordable care — but you need to shop wisely. You also need to be aware that your benefits might be changing in the coming year. Because of a new federal law that takes effect for most insurance plans on Jan. 1, the Mental Health Parity Act, there is a very good chance that your mental health coverage has indeed changed — possibly for the better. In this column I will explore how to make the most of your mental health benefits. In a future column, I’ll discuss how to find free or low-cost mental health care if you don’t have insurance."
- edythe
from Bookmarklet
"THE CHANGES You might have noticed in the materials your employer handed out recently during open enrollment that your mental health benefits would look different in 2010. For instance, rather than being given a set number of visits, you may have unlimited visits now, but possibly with additional administrative hurdles before you can have access to the care. That’s because of that...
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- edythe
The Pixies are one of the most influential rock bands to come out of the late 80s and early 90s. Their abrasive melodies turn from sugary sweet to a heavy crunch without warning. Nirvana, among others, claimed them as a source of inspiration. The Pixies are considered the forefathers of grunge rock.
- edythe
Nakachi is the bringer of words that brighten every day.
- LogEx
I like that one, Logical Extremes. Again, the ability to like individual comments or posts would be good here. On topic, Ophelia, who is not that active on friendfeed but filters here anyway, is very good with words. Her updates both entertain and inspire me.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Monique posts something that makes me smile or chuckle just about every day she's active
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
FFing Enigma (aka Tina) is articulate, witty, and passionate.
- Glen Campbell
RAPatton might be the best dad i've ever read about (my dad excluded of course)
- Steve C
Nope. You can do it as many times as you like. For instance, I like how ha3rvey is funny and just a genuinely nice guy. :)
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Akiva's great pictures of Babby Audrey and Rochelle always make me smile (technically that was just about one person... sorta...) :D
- Her Lindsay-ness
"i18n" is short for "internationalization", i+<18 letters>+n. By that schema, i80and saved us all a lot of screen real estate.
- DGentry
What can I say about one person? Jason Toney's posts always elicit wonder and insight. RAPatton, I feel like is just full of awesome with his insight and approach to things. Haggis is a barrel of laughs. Steven Perez (when he's not fighting with conservatives) has spawned his own catchphrase. Nicholas K. is just about the most awesome single dad I've seen in a long time. Tina and...
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- Derrick
Victor Ganata is extremely intelligent, empathetic and articulate. He has always been exceptional in understanding others whether he agrees or disagrees with an opinion, and he always treats everyone with the utmost of respect.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
I wish I could call everyone out. If we interact here on FF, take it on faith that I pretty much love you.
- Derrick
You know me, I can't ever pick one person so I will simply say that every single person I subscribe to is smart, interesting, funny and make being on this crazy little site damn entertaining. Those that I've been lucky enough to get to know beyond the site prove to me every day that everyone who has ever said only weirdos and stalkers are online are just smoking crack.
- ♥patricia♥
I'm with you there, Derrick. There are so many people here who are funny, smart, interesting, entertaining, etc. There are even a couple who make me blush. NOT NAMING ANY NAMES. And then there's that cilantro dude.
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
Steven Perez is a funny guy, and can cheer me up when I'm down.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
My first public skype call was with Tad, Glen and the Amber - a lovely conversation with great people. Tad was bold enough to live stream his workstation software install expedition and is a friend to all; Glen is chalk full of incisive wit and has an easy going conversational style; and the Amber was open enough to admit she's shy but worked up the courage to get on the call anyway. Like I said, great people, and quite representative of all the good people in the land of friendfeed.
- Micah Wittman
Derrick tells the truth! There's so many awesome people I can't choose just one.
- Rodfather
Anika Malone is as straight a shooter as there ever has been She will always tell you the truth about what she thinks. I find that to be a quality many people could use more of, and I respect her, and love her for it.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
I can't believe that there are people I'm not subbed too.
- Derrick
I wrote in my 25 things that one of my laments in life is finding a woman who challenges me mentally. Tina does just that. With aplomb. There have been countless times that I was sure of myself and she will make a comment that causes me to completely rethink the issue entirely.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
Louis Gray got me to think about just being myself and not allowing the tech heavy side of FF to intimidate me.
- Derrick
Michael W May and RAPatton have the best tastes in music I've ever seen in my life, I applaud and covet their music collection.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Derrick and Mona and Akiva and Rochelle and Jandy and many of you make me laugh every day.
- Louis Gray
Derrick is the shizzle, treated me like an old friend. That's one of 500 nice things I have to say about other Friendfeeders.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Rachel Fox takes outstanding pictures.
- Louis Gray
My little pea... fierce as a woozle, indeed! So quiet and unassuming... But so poignant at exactly the right moment. The exactly right phrase to every situation. If she can' brighten your mood, nobody else can, either.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
DYSP! Steven and I disagree here and there but in the end I absolutely admire his sense of humor and his passion. A truly A-Lister here on Friendfeed.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
Alex Scoble, Cristo, Chris White and Thomas Hawk vigorously defend their views, but never take it (or make it) personal.
- Kevin Fox
I love the fact that Rochelle always likes the same stuff I like. And that Akiva and I both grew up in southeast Texas.
- Glen Campbell
I think, most of all, Derrick has redefined what it means to be yourself. I have had the distinct honor of meeting him and what you see here is Derrick. He shares his joys with us, which is easy, but he also shares his pain with us. I must say that I am jealous of his ability to be open, and I admire him immensely.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
I love everyone who gives me a reason to drop my pants... that and Josh Haley.
- Johnny Worthington
I love johnny dropping his pants....o_O
- WorldofHiglet
edythe, Morton, and Kol for liking so much, they allow everyone to notice each other.
- Rodfather
I can't thank April Russo enough for all the help she has given me here at Friend Feed. She is awesome in my book.
- Brent - Long Live Rock
I'd like to know how it Is I'm seem to be commenting right around the time Johnny is droppin' Pants?
- Brent - Long Live Rock
Way too many good things to say about way too many people - I don't want to leave the island
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Anna and Rodfather are great for liking the same random crap I do.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
James (Tsali) you win for putting up with me all this time. Rah for being Rah. Anika for cutting to the quick in a conversation. And etc... you know you rock if I follow you.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
I guess what I am saying is there are roughly a squillion people on Frienfeed of whom I am in awe and also whom I have the most respect.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
rochelle and akiva are nice in person and on FF...
- Trish Haley
i would trust pea and trish r to babysit zoe. (that's saying a lot)
- Trish Haley
aww. I would love to babysit Zoe! That means a lot, thank you.
- ♥patricia♥
You are all awesome, but bonus props to Tina (aka) for consistently being the voice of reason in every conversation, to Derrick for being Derrick, Jandy for keeping it real, and Chris Baskind for bringing the issues, Kol Tregastes for non-stop cool stuff...man, I'm realizing I could go on...what an amazing community :-D
- Louis Simoneau
Mattie Kenny is the Dulcinea to my Don Quixote.
- Steven Perez
3 of you are awesome for donating to the cause of FFundercats recently.
- Josh Haley
i like the conversations with katie about books. i like holly because she's a librarian and helped me with a geek problem. shevonne is down to earth and makes me want to buy boots.
- Trish Haley
Actually, many of the people in this thread are in my "FF Favorites" list
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Every time something mildly bad happens I think to myself "DAMN YOU STEVEN PEREZ!" (hey, I think that's something nice to say about him ;)
- Alejandro
darren heydon is good for warm fuzzies.
- Trish Haley
I can't pick out one specific person. I can name a few names, but there's a specific reason why I am subscribed to every person I am subscribed to. Jandy and Lindsey all kinds of rock, fellow geek chic - so they have to. :P Johnny keeps me cracking up. Zee is my boy for sure, we'd make a ton of trouble if we lived near each other. Monique is straight up, which is win. I can't keep naming people...it would...take up way too much time. I am sure I will though.
- Candace
anika converted me to munchos... yum!
- Trish Haley
joey is charming. Helen is real. Penguin is adorable.
- Laura Norvig
Parth has a wonderful soul. Abby makes me giggle. Carlos and Cee Bee hotties who post some interesting material. Laura Botts and Jim's banter gives me happy feelings all day. Everyone I'm subbed to rocks. That's why I'm subbed to them.
- Anika
Robert Scoble was the first person I heard mention FriendFeed.
- ha3rvey (free hugs!)
High-five to Leather Donut for bringing us some tits and ass *thumbs up*
- Outsanity & Kate + Hate
oh, it would be so hard to list them all. FF is full of lots of interesting, hilarious, entertaining, and just outstanding individuals.that I look forward to interacting with, many of whom have already been mentioned. yes, even that cilantro lover ;) There's also a fantastic bunch of librarians who hang out here and make me proud to call myself a librarian. yeah, we kinda rule. :)
- holly
Holly is right. I *adore* my collection of librarians here.
- Anika
Michael W. May for his taste in music, Abby Martin for her exceptional good taste in movies (and being a great mother), Håkan and Rutger for their photos and Robert Scoble for the geek stuff. And Esther for being both sweet and smart. But all of the people I sub to are people that brighten my day!
- Baard @ Pixum
MWM and RAP and Haggis for the music mindshare, Tad and Steven Perez and Josh Haley and Worthington for cracking me the HELL up, Derrick for being Derrick so awesomely, Anika and Krynsky and Amani and other LA peeps for helping me learn the city, Abby and Joe Pierce and Logical Extremes and others for the fab movie convos, Louis Gray for apparently paying more attention to me than I...
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- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I'm just really happy to have a great internet family. :) That's what makes FRIENDFeed so awesome.
- Internet's Tad
to all ppl i follow, thankyou for sharing with me too, :)
- chaz2b
I feel me some Abby Martin especially b/c of her passion for sports and movies ... Jandy for not seeing me stalk her when she was drunk posting at the show ... Shey for being the first cool Canadian I have ever met ... Mona for laughing at me when i asked for advice (and then giving me good advice) ... Anika for opening up her home ... Shevonne for being a fly girl with some fire ... I'll continue in a bit
- Amani
I´ll add some love for Derrick as well b/c he was the first friendfeeder to take me under his wing and show me the ropes here. BUT there has since become a handful or two more that define my good friendfeed experience. Intelligence, humour and warmth is abundant amongst you all, so thanks.
- Thomas Bøhm
Mona is incredibly thoughtful and considerate of others, not to mention AWESOME!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Agree with Holly and Anika - my librarian peeps here are amazing. And there's so many of us!
- Laura Norvig
Yolanda always makes me smile. MWM and Tina are always helpful, caring, and knowledgeable. Anika is just awesome, especially her smile. Steven's singing is great. Outsanity & Tad always make me laugh (MVB often, too). Alex & Chris B. make me think. Derrick makes me feel. Jemm & Nia provide so many late night smiles. I appreciate Katie for getting me reading more, and Lindsay for getting...
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- Alix Whitmire
thanks for letting me hang out with you Friendfeeders(all of you) it's an honor and lots of fun!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Steve C. always makes me laugh, ALWAYS. plus everyone else mentioned here is truly awesome as well :)
- Kelly
Sorry, I can't say anything at the moment because I'm still enjoying everyone's warmth from Jandy's group hug
- Mark Krynsky
It's hard to pick anyone out because my total FF is made up of so many brilliant people: funny, witty, acerbic, insightful, mind-blowing, thrusting, truth-seekers, provocative, timelords (okay, there might only be one of them...). I love the tech, the LOLs (and the LOLcats), the debates, the discussions, the shared problems, the glimpses into others' lives....And Monique, you have started one of my favourite threads so special props to you.
- WorldofHiglet
Monique is a clever woman to kick off such a good thread
- RAPatton
Josh and Trish and Tina and Yolanda and Derrick and DYSP Steven make me smile and laugh when I need it. Johnny Worthington always hears when I post an "OMG help me!" kind of thing, and he usually responds with the most absurd and sweet message. Also, he has haiku battles with me, which is all kinds of WIN. Mark W and Fierce Lindsay make me smile, and Mark VandenBerg makes me LOL. And there are so many other sweet and funny and clever people who fill my day here on FriendFeed... thank you to everyone!
- Ladybug Heather
AKA Tina is really good at putting up with my silly e-crish.
- teh Dork Knight
I love the wit of many but must say MVB can make me spit drinks at the glance of his posts.
- Janet
I don't even know where to begin. There are so many people who I love for different reasons. Hmmm..My LAers (Derrick, Amani, Derrick, Anika, Monique, Edythe) because they are always cooler than cool. My New Yorkers (Mona and Cee Bee) because they bring the versatility. My mothers (Abby, Rochelle, Jen, Katie) because they always remind me how great is it to be a mom. RAPatton because...
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- Shevonne
That's OK, Shevonne. I'm sure it will come to you. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
You see....Steven Perez because he's funny as hell, and then there is Yolanda cause she is one of the sweetest EVER. Ugghhh too many. This is like giving an acceptance speech. =D
- Shevonne
Not me! I was talking about Mike Nayyar. He's so lonely in his dumpster. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
I enjoy everyone, but like Thomas Hawk's photos and philosophies the most, and learn more from Louis Gray than anyone else.
- jcunwired
Returning the love to Amani and Abby -- you guys are two of the most honest and kindest souls on FF. Others: RAPatton probably doesn't have a single mean bone in him (ok, poor choice of words there), I could watch Dobromir's feed all day long, Shevonne is a ray of FF sunshine, Akiva is just flat out funny
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
There are so many people here that make being here worthwhile that I cannot single out just one. You guys all rock in your own special ways.
- Alex Scoble
I LOVE ROBERT SCOBLE! ~ just not in that way. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
- sofarsoShawn
Awww thanks Shey! My favorite Jamaican. There is Pea, my fellow DCer who is one of the most genuine peeps up in here!
- Shevonne
I love interacting with all the smart, funny FFolks on here! Too many to name, but among my favorites are: Lindsey (the Fierce), Rochelle/Akiva/Audrey, Derrick, Ladybug and Scott, Jim J, RAPatton, Tina (the Enigmatic)... You all rock my world!
- Laura B coughin' less
ceebee and RAPatton post the most interesting stuff. and even if he wasn't my boo, i'd still be all up in JT's feed for his pop culture and politics mix. love their stuff
- tiffany
there are many friendfeeders i feel particularly warmly to because something of their inner self is always coming out: Michael W. May (who has always been at the top of the list), Morton Fox, Anika/Faboo Mama, Yolanda, rap, Cecily, Tad, Akiva, Rochelle, Lindsey, Lindsay D., Beeling, Rodfather, Ginger Makela, Mark Trapp, Ceebee, Shevonne, Abby Martin, Jandy, Zach Landes, Nathan Rein,...
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- edythe
The community / user base of friendfeed is one of the biggest reasons that these days, I'm spending more time on friendfeed versus twitter. I love you all, even the people that annoy me from time to time.
- Jeremy
and even yuvi, despite the fact that he used to call me Old Woman. :) and Donna Mugavero and Joanmarie and Michelle Martinez... and Silpol (now A.T.) and oh my gosh PARTH!!!! :)
- edythe
and oh my gosh Shey and his jaw-droppingly lovely wife Jasmin... i like Robert Scoble, too, because he always seems upfront to me and never mean.
- edythe
Additions - Cee Bee for highest quality posts consistently, Ebrahimi for pictures and translating squiggly for me, Iain for celebrity without celebrity tude, Jessie and Soup most socially conscious posts, Tina for being FF spirit leader, Lindsey online 24hours day, Anne and Jim for getting me here. :)
- Steve C
I 'like' Tyson Key! And a bow toward Trish Haley, thanks for making me blush. Speaking of Haleys, Trish, Josh, and Morgan have all become favorites of mine. MVB makes me laugh like a fool, as does relative newbie Valley... he is one funny dude! Gosh, all these names are coming to mind! I'll probably have to comment more later. But for this go-round I will close by saying... if Carmen ever stops posting those daily mug shots, I'm going offline!
- Jim Hearts FF
Oh, and to Monique who I guess I am not subsribed to... you completely win for putting up this post. What an excellent, excellent gift to the community!
- Jim Hearts FF
I gotta' send some love out to the original band of hooligans who got me hooked on FF: edythe, RAP, Brandon, MWM, Louis Gray & Robert Scoble. You guys filled my world with gobs of geekiness and great interaction on SO MANY different levels. Thanks for making my addiction to FF possible. Of course, now there are so many, many, many others who help to keep me here. I can't even begin to name you all.
- Lisa L. Seifert
PS: Thanks for putting up with my Twitter-heavy stream while I'm in school for this year. Eventually, I'll have time to interact more again. xoxo
- Lisa L. Seifert
Alix is a wonderful caring wife who tolerates me and my annoying sleeping/eating/battlestar watching habits. I is lucky.
- Shawn Whitmire
I love Akiva for bringing the comedy and the pain. I love Derrick for being as real in the OSH parking lot as he is on FF. I love Monique for being the Pied Piper of the interwebz and helping me recover my sanity. I love James for being so gently poetic. I love Rahsheen for the soft porn videos he always takes in bed. I love Johnny Worthington for being such a cuddle muffin of hair and vulgarity. I love Steven Perez for being a quicker wit than me and nicer than me all at once.
- nakachi
I love Kaia for the name Baronnes Von Cut A Bitch. I love Robin (bcultural) for the science and the nation building. I love Logical Extremes and Rodfather for their quiet affirmations that never go unnoticed. I love Helen for the virtual daps she gives me whether I'm flying or firing. I love Anna Haro for all the little hearts she sends my way <3 to you, too, honey girl.
- nakachi
It would take too long for me to put all my 328 subscriptions in here! If I'm following you, rest assured that you and your content matter to me. :)
- Laura B coughin' less
I love Rochelle 'cause momminess becomes her. And I love YOU!
- nakachi
Nakachi's Facebook status updates blow my mind
- Rodfather
I love this thread. We need an effing FF CONVENTION.
- Derrick
This past week has not been a very good one for me and I might have lost it completely if it hadn't been for Johnny, Steven and Derrick for all dropping their pants for me. I love that there are people on here, that I have never met, that care enough to make me laugh when I am feeling way crappy. <3 And of course there are more, just giving props to those that made me feel better this week :) MWAH!
- Penny
Also, Nia for her beautiful photos and Mo for making me laugh too :)
- Penny
I'm ready for more. I love Nia for her kindness and her pictures. I love me some g.warbucks 'cause she's brilliant AND pretty to look at. I love tiffany for sharing the good, the bad and the tipsy. I love Chris Weige for keeping art on my mind. I love that the people who subscribe to me give a damn about what I have to say enough to take the time to read me. I'm grateful.
- nakachi
from fftogo
I had no idea when I started this thread that it would blow up like this. I think this is a clear example of the value of friendfeed: the relationships we build. Sure, we have differing interests, politics, social situations and opinons, but at the end of the day, what we come here for are the people. No one exists in a vacuum, and if they did, they probably wouldn't have a friendfeed...
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- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
It is hard to pick a single person but as stated...you all bring me much needed laughter. I especially LOVE the ladies room girls - you bring the essence of love. Thank you so much.
- Janet
Personally, I think Akiva Moskovitz rocks. He's one of the main reasons why I use FriendFeed. If it weren't for him, I probably wouldn't even be here.
- Akiva Moskovitz
not to sound too much like a Mutual Admiration Society, but edythe's feed was what got me hooked on this place. :-D
- Karim
Ha, there are too many awesome people here to list and compliment individually; but Denton Gentry, Kevin Johnson, and Morton Fox are all awesome and extremely skilled techies!
- i80and
The FF founders and employees rock pretty hard too thanks Paul, Bret, Jim, Anna etc
- Steve C
Lindsay D. and Kol Tregaskes are kind and respectful even when disagreeing with someone. Civility like that deserves a mention because it is not often the norm in the online world.
- Jim Hearts FF
Penny for her personality and her self portraits which are awesome and so real!<3 Dobromir, Richard and Michael who always wishes good morning ^^. Manuela, because of her sense of style what becomes to art, also a very lovely person! Nakachi, Girl, you rock my world! Stay as you are - you are wonderful! L4S who is so much fun and amazing person :) Will, cause of his kindness and cause...
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- Nia
Everybody already mentioned in this thread, plus Meryn and Joelle for being really smart and inquisitive about some of things I find particularly interesting, too. Or at least the way they discuss them. Not that I don't think that way about the rest of you, just no one had mentioned them yet.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Jim, yeah there's no need to be bitchy while disagreeing. Get your point over but don't be nasty about it. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Mo Kargas for his awesomeness. (I hope that by honoring great killer robots my death shall be quick and painless once they take over the world)
- Jemm
i80and for his Linux postings, FFing Enigma for roller derbying, Mo Kargas because... the giant robot intimidates me.
- DGentry
echostreamer has solid integrity and calls me on my sh!t - highly appreciated
- William Harryman
How did I miss thread? It needs a comeback. Thank you LB for the bump. If you think I might know who you are, the odds are high I love you and thank you for being around (even if you have moved on, in which case you won't see this, but it is important to mention nonetheless) and thank you for letting me into your lives a little bit *hugs*
- Michael W. May
I didn't see this the first time round either (but it looks like I was in NYC when this was happening). I have friends who I knew before FF for whom friendfeed has allowed me to know better and there are folks like RAP, edythe, and MwM whose posting and conversation have enriched my life and ignited my imagination. Thanks kids. And, of course, I love Sneezy but FF had little to do with that.
- Jason Toney
I really admire Kol Tregaskes, he's always informative and gets involved quite a bit with almost everything. Quite the most selfless individual I ever came across on the net :) ... Also Holden Page impresses me everyday because he's a younger individual with tons of interest in several subjects that most older users usually get into, he shows he's not afraid to learn and keep his...
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- Tim Tunnicliff
I've met a lot of great people here on FF (I won't single anyone out). This is a diverse community that has brought some great conversations that simply could not have been done with a little blue bird and whale.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Holly Rae is the biggest FF'in promoter within a hundred mile radius of my chair. :)
- Laura (hear me raura?)
I can't really say much about anyone specific, other than ya'll are the greatest and have helped amuse me through some very hard times over the past year or so, and a special thanks with much love goes out to Amber, the Random Time Lord for introducing me to FF and for putting up with me for this long.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
I totally like Louis Gray - Mike Fruchter - RAPatton - Worthington - CS Techcast - and tons of other people - thanks for making my use of FF enjoyable.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
thats one way to get off the duty. They forgot to mention if they were a different color then them and different religion.
- CW™
It might be, but I know people who would say this and mean it.
- Katy S
geez..does this person really believe that or is he/she just trying to get out of jury duty?
- Anna Lynn M.
When he said that, the first thing out of my mouth was, "What a DICK!" He was the first juror dismissed by the attorneys. After he said that, the 4 single parents after him all made it a point to mention they were single parents and give him looks of derision.
- Anika
Well, but to be honest, if that;s how they feel, would you rather have them lie about it and be on a jury?
- The Archangel ωαřмaiden
So if the attorneys see this, Anika, do you get dismissed? Good way to get out of jury duty if so! :) Much better than his method.
- Stephen Mack
No, this doesn't dismiss me. I just can't write on the case which hasn't started. I'm not even a selected juror yet. I get to go back tomorrow. But I win anyway, because the 5 people who bugged me the most were all dismissed.
- Anika
And I don't mind jury duty. I think as a citizen of this country, it's the least you can do.
- Anika
Her: I've never heard of sangria made with wine. Me. ??? Her: That must be an LA thing. We make our sangria with vodka here. Me: Okay. I only know that wine is the base and some people add other stuff. Just vodka sounds...strong. Her: [silent for 5 min. I *know* she's googling] Oh, I thought we were talking about margaritas.
There is a reason I tend not to hope on IM. I often get caught in these sorts of conversations with people. OTOH, no one gets to see my "Are you fucking stupid?" face, so I guess I win.
- Anika
I am also rarely on IM, so whenever I do get on people seem to swarm me with their stupid ideas
- Dragon Goldmaple
Tina, yes. There's a LOT more to this conversation and it just got so dumb I was positive she was pulling my chain.
- Anika
Yikes. I could understand if you threw out something like PJ or Stumpjuice . . but Sangria? Margaritas? sheesh
- Heather Solos
The other thing that bothers me about this conversation, is that she's FROM LA. Born and lived 29 years here. She moved to NC 4 years ago and now acts like she's a Southern Belle.
- Anika
She's full of it. We drink all of it and I'm closer to Chahlston than her ;)
- Heather Solos
LOL Heather, she said she only started drinking after she moved. The subsequent conversation made me feel like she was either lying about drinking or just being stupid on purpose. Either way, I had to go and shut down my IM client.
- Anika
The only random IMs I get involve people telling me I should check out their webcam /shudder
- Heather Solos
Oh, this wasn't random. I've known her for almost 10 years now. I'm very picky about who I allow on my IM list. She may be scuttled.
- Anika
If making a margarita with vodka doesn't warrant scuttling, I'm not sure what does...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
You know...she eventually posted it to Facebook to make sure I was wrong. Her friend in NC: "Lord, girl! If we made it vodka, we'd be DEAD!"
- Anika
Oh and I'm now positive she was thinking of her appletinis.
- Anika
My Spanish friends do use clear liquor in addition to wine and fresh fruit, depending on how much kick they want. Vodka and/or white rum. FYI. How else are you going to get a hundred of your closest friends buzzed?
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
Of course, Richard. I do the same (partial to rum and tequila), but that's not what she was talking about.
- Anika
You had me at Momofuku. Spectacular food there.
- Donna Mugavero
OOH, I was at one of the momofuku spots the other night and thumbed thru this book. it's beautiful inside but....the ingredients are so outlandish there's no way I'd make even 1/5th of what's in there. lots of good info on the restaurants tho.
- Liz
"THIS calf escaped the butcher's knife when a brush with frostbite left her without hind legs. Meadow, a yearling Black Angus, is believed to be the first bovine recipient of double prosthetics. Doctors were forced to amputate the calf's back legs in August after she was found in a paddock having lost her hooves and half her ears to severe frostbite."
- edythe
from Bookmarklet
Meadow is apparently from Ocate, New Mexico, which is here: http://maps.google.com/maps... ... and without heftier digging I've no idea what the climate is like there in August. But maybe walking in a cold stream or field, toss in some windchill, so circulation to the extremities is impaired, so she slows down and stops moving, which means she gets colder, yadda yadda vicious circle.
- Deborah Fitchett
barfed? for what? maybe he likes a nicely waxed guy, D? :)
- Bren, Photophobe
*crosses arms* Remind me to keep my really gay comments and posts to myself. Carry on with your pencil thin chicken bone bitch, wannabe model/whore posts. HMMPH. #sensitive
- Derrick
@Tina @Derrick - good thing to know I am not the last man on earth...being less hirsute than others and all that... :P
- JA Castillo
Oh hell no, D! no chicken-bone bitches or wannabe model/whores in my posts! And I am entertained by your really gay comments and posts in the same way that I am entertained by any comments and posts that actually reveal something about who my friends really are. :)
- Bren, Photophobe
Well, some of the footballers might qualify as chicken-bone bitches and/or model-whore wannabes... but other than that, and those are a public service.
- Bren, Photophobe
Dood...don't censor yourself!! I love you for who and what you are...keep it coming! :D
- JA Castillo
I would like to request more really gay comments please.
- Lo
I don't want to turn FF into a vomitorium. :(
- Derrick
Meh. If someone has that weak of a gag reflex that's their problem.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
*whaps Morgan upside the head* Derrick, you know better than to pay him any 'tention. *wishing you had a web cam so we could see the mister scruffykins*
- Yolanda
Well, you not posting gay comments makes me vomit. So you're pretty much screwed on that count. :P
- Lo
*stretches, exposing fuzzy navel* ...Oh! That's where I put my drink! (UPDATE: for the record, a "hairy navel" has vodka in it)
- LogEx
from iPhone
I second Lo's request for more really gay comments... I love me a nice furry tummy, too. :D
- Bette Cooper
Anyone who is "offended" by gay comments should probably not be sub'd to you anyway, D! Let them sort through their issues...keep being you!
- Bren, Photophobe
Y'all know I had therapy last night. I'm still dazed. #sensitive
- Derrick
I've always heard it called that, actually... some better than others. :D
- Bette Cooper
Morgan must have been upset at the thought of a closeted gay republican, perhaps? NO WAI was he upset by you, D
- WorldofHiglet
Somewhere Morgan is sitting back in his chair laughing evilly, doing that thing that Mr. Burns does: "Excellent.." You know how much he loves to stir up trouble. :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Morgan, why not spend your energy posting constructive comments?
- joey
well joey, that's just a silly question :) what fun would that be for him?
- Bren, Photophobe
I think we're all focusing on the wrong thing now. Back to Derrick and his interests. I'm more into that than telling someone his comment was a bit off-putting. Especially when it's been covered already.
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
I don't think it's a problem to tell someone that a comment was inappropriate. Homophobia (even in online banter) has serious repercussions; we're fighting a struggle for basic gay rights in Washington state right now and it's an issue that I take very seriously. I'm more into not having to deal with 'ew, gross' comments every time someone posts something remotely homosexual and would like to see a response from the original poster of said comment. But whatever, I'm bowing out of this thread.
- joey
i never knew the furry-belly-loving segment (both gay and hetero) had such representation on FF.
- Joe Silence is not dead
Joey, I certainly agree with your sentiments, whole-heartedly. I just think it'd been covered but that's my general take on conversations. If I see that my sentiments or point have been covered, I tend to focus on other matters. I will admit it was high handed of me to try to refocus the conversation. In fact, after I did it, I thought to myself, "Well who died and made you the comment police?"
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
What does it say about me that when I started to read Derrick's original post, I was pretty sure it was a DM?
- Steve is older than ever
Feel free to send me (DM or otherwise) furry tummy pics. Or smooth tummy pics. Average joe types > workout addicts with eight pacs. Sorry, Rahsheen.
- Derrick
Tempting... but I don't want to tease you *inno* :P
- Michael W. May
i'll spare you my own freakshow gut full of ropey purple surgical scars and stretch marks.
- Joe Silence is not dead
*looks again* actually, they're not purple, just slightly darker skin tone and a little puckered and smooth. still not terribly nice to look at, tho.
- Joe Silence is not dead
Direct message, how could I not know that. Well don't I feel quite the fool?
- Noah Belson
does it count if one cannot see where treasure trail ends end rest of fur begins?
- metalerik
I hardly take Morgan's comment as a statement that he hates gays
- Lindsey is Fierce!
Lindsey: are you familiar with the concept of humor? I assumed Morgan was kidding, and I was also kidding. hence the "caps lock" and "do anybody no" treatment.
- Bren, Photophobe
DO ANYBODY NO WHY LINDSEY CAN POKE FUN BUT CANT RECOGNIZE WHEN OTHERS ARE POKE FUN?
- Bren, Photophobe
@Lindsey: I think Morgan wouldn't have made that "joke" if a woman had posted the same thing Derrick did..."hate" is undoubtedly over the top, but it's not cuddly
- Louis Simoneau
"treasure trail:" :D "my heart is like an olive pit:" :)
- edythe
I'm hetero and I would probably have barfed at the thought of a happy trail and fur. Would I have posted it? Probably not but we are different people.
- Lindsey is Fierce!
still think it's at least insensitive and probably offensive...that said, I think Andrea and edythe are taking the wiser approach to this conversation
- Louis Simoneau
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- edythe
from Bookmarklet
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- edythe
from Bookmarklet
dude, it's like after 2am there, why are you up? *grin*
- Michael W. May
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- edythe
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- edythe
from Bookmarklet
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- edythe
from Bookmarklet
oh, another good one to try. although having to buy vanilla liqueur might be a nix...
- edythe
For the vanilla liqueur you could always sub simple syrup (or honey), some vanilla extract and some vodka.
- Ginger Makela Riker
a ha. i was hoping there might exist a substitute. thank you, ginger.
- edythe
maybe you should become one of the New Cocktailians. :D
- edythe
I would love that edythe -- my dream is that my brother moves out to CO and we could start our own liquor company/martini bar.
- Ginger Makela Riker
maybe i should move out to colorado and do that with you. but... no, i couldn't work at a bar, I don't think. well, maybe. oh, and colorado is COLD.
- edythe
"It's been hazy today, but the night sky is relatively clear with these dots of clouds throughout the sky. I looked up to see the moon behind a cloud shaped like a beta fish."
- Anika
from Bookmarklet
you're right, it is shaped like a beta fish. huh.
- edythe