Sign in or Create an account
Gabe Rivera's Comments - View full feed
Twitter
Gabe Rivera posted a message on Twitter
Twitter
Duncan Riley posted a message on Twitter
Twitter
Robin posted a message on Twitter
Picasa Web Albums
Mitchell Tsai published a photo on Picasa Web Albums
Cleanmeme.png
June 29 at 1:40 am - Link
"Another small hack is to filter Techmeme so you only get stories about non-major companies. I’ve started [this Yahoo Pipe] for those who want it." - Duncan Riley?, The Inquisitr http://inquisitr.com/1333/tech... - Mitchell Tsai
The pipe takes the Techmeme Firehose and blocks stories from or about Google, Facebook, Twitter, TechCrunch and a few others. If anyone has any suggestions of other companies that should be blocked (I need to add to the list, just haven’t sat down yet to do a full list) feel free to comment. - Mitchell Tsai
That's awesome. Can you filter out phrases like "web 2.0" or "social networking"? - Eric Florenzano
Whew...good thing I registered cleanmeme.com last summer. :-) - Gabe Rivera
Twitter
Robert Scoble posted a message on Twitter
Twitter
Gabe Rivera posted a message on Twitter
Twitter
Gabe Rivera posted a message on Twitter
FriendFeed
Ross Mayfield posted a message
June 30 at 11:27 pm - Link
I'd use FriendFeed if it allowed me to physically slap users. - Gabe Rivera
Ross - one thing I've found with regard to FriendFeed is that the interactions here are key. FriendFeed has the most compelling participation experience I've found. And the participation is around ideas and content. It seems to me this is the future of effective collaborative work inside the enterprise. Wikis are good at multiple authoring and version control. But they could really use better participation hooks. - Hutch Carpenter
if everything were linked I'd be screwed LOL - Mona N
Hutch, yeah, but that is here - Ross Mayfield
Oh, and I meant "allow_comments" thusly, and at least I can edit thusly - Ross Mayfield
Yes it is here, but going out and visiting a linked app has not proven to be a burden. Twitter replies can be executed directly from FriendFeed. Maybe more down the road will be added. But the interactions are the fuel of FriendFeed, not the API calls out to other services. I'm going to give you one example where a combination of FriendFeed and external blogs managed to get a web app created among parties who only know each other through FriendFeed: http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008... - Hutch Carpenter
How do I reply to your comment on Twitter? - Ross Mayfield
Can't any message include token(s) that could be read by a service via the FriendFeed API and be interpreted to do pretty much anything you'd want? That said, I'd be concerned about complexity and recursion when going bi-directional. - scott anderson
You should see a tweet from me shortly. It's also a comment under your tweet to this message. - Hutch Carpenter
scott, recursion sounds neat, like a burning man made of servers, lets do it! - Ross Mayfield
An interesting point that has been been brought up here before is what happens when you import your exported FriendFeed Atom feed back into your FriendFeed account. - scott anderson
You do get some odd recursive stuff. Here's my experiment with it: http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008... - Hutch Carpenter
Twitter
Dave Winer posted a message on Twitter
FriendFeed
Dave Winer posted a message
June 27 at 11:24 pm - Link
FriendFeed, for now, seems to working well as long as you don't only follow the a-list. - Ray Grieselhuber
There is a risk in Friendfeed that you will only ever see the comments of a small subset of the FF population - interspersed with the odd Friend of... who may make it "In" - Rooms has the potential to widen the gene pool but sticking to the friends tab can definitely limit the number of names you will see... - David W
I don't feel a need to reinvent the web inside of FF. However it is part of what I do, in the same way Twitter is. I like FF better, but only marginally better. It's very far from the ideal. None of these guys have managed to combine all the elements the way plain old HTML does it so well. It's nice in some ways but a big step backward in others. - Dave Winer
oh don't you worry the "BigCos" and slooow media will always end up being displaced; it's a law of nature, soon to be documented and displaced - Billy Shipp via twhirl
Yeah. It's a big old loop we're in. And watch for the moments when new products don't get any air. That means the routearound is just about to begin. - Dave Winer
BTW its weird but Techmeme is down now. What a day! - Dave Winer
reinventing if needed is fine but to get a new look I guess, it's like starting over again a little bit. - Jack
Dave: I disagree to a point. If you look at Techmeme stories from my blog in May and June alone, you can see stories on Loud3r, Feedly, Disqus, Sezwho, FFToGo, and Shyftr, for example. It could be that Techmeme is accurately monitoring the most discussed blogs, and that the vast majority of these blogs are talking less about new products. Link: http://tinyurl.com/4nscbe - Louis Gray
Dave, I don't disagree, but having said that I don't believe its Technemes fault, it is designed to follow the peak noise and ultimately thats around the big players. What we need is a techmeme like service that blocks techcrunch and any mention of a defined list of companies such as google, facebook etc so we can cut through the noise - Duncan Riley via fftogo
Nah, I think the blogosphere and devices like Twitter and FriendFeed show me cool things all the time. When you rely on one aggregator/editor for information... things you are interested in slip through. If you leave it up to crowdsourcing, you see what you want. - Andrew Ruess
Louis -- that's kind of the point -- those products didn't launch well, and with no slight to you -- I haven't heard of them because I depend on TechMeme to tell me what's important in the tech world. TechMeme does what it does well, but it has some real limits and the industry has shaped around those limits, just as the industry shaped around the limits of the press in the pre-Internet era and during the browser and Java wars in the 90s. - Dave Winer
Dave, what are you thinking about? - feedlyqa
I think there needs to be a website where people can list the new products and services, that way its very easy to find out and support new services like SocialBrowse and A.viary that I would have never found if it wasn't for the invites friendfeed channel - Chacha
Feedly, generate a daily RSS feed (archived) of the user's posts. Here's an example. http://twitter.scripting.com/d... - Dave Winer
are you thinking of a parallel twitter system based on RSS and an associated XXXmeme? - feedlyqa
Dave, I guess the answer is on your website http://www.scripting.com/ (note: permalinks on the website seem to be broken). how do you envision people creating http://twitter.scripting.com/d...? SwitchAbit? Friendfeed? (or the point is that you do not care?) - feedlyqa
@Chacha i made a new product/software category @ http://www.socialmedian.com/ try *solacetech* as an invite code and tell me if that's what you had in mind - Anthony Farrior
I would find it interesting to hear less breaking news and new startups. Instead more analytics on the guys that are doing it right. Why are they successful? Nine out of 10 new startups don't seem to be launching something that addresses an actual need, instead they launch a technology. We have enough technology already, so that fails. And providing us with next gen social ad business models ain't going to work either ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
I really liked Fred Wilson's suggestion to make a TechMeme that was for individual bloggers only. No branded blogs like TechCrunch, Engadget, VentureBeat... just Scripting, AVC, Scoble, etc. This would cast a much more individual net, which I think would really increase diversity. PeopleMeme - Jason Calacanis
Jason, a good idea:-) BTW TechMeme could be improved vastly if it could ignore 3 types of post: 1) any posts that say "Breaking News" 2) posts that copy the exact content of another post and add 1-2 lines to them (echo echo) 3) Anything, and I mean anything that discusses the performance of Twitter at this moment. Removing any of those would make TechMeme probably 100% more interesting and diverse already. Is Gabe listening? ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
Alexander, Gabe always listens. He's one of the best I've seen for monitoring his service online. He's out of town until July 8th, so may be checking things less. - Louis Gray
Well they sound like easy fixes, so I hope he has the time to implement them. Come to think of it, it would be great if each of us can have it's own TechMeme algorithm ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
BTW Louis, it seems YOU are always listening too ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
Maybe the route-around is to read Louis Gray. - Jason Kaneshiro
I have been reading TechMeme less and less lately. I guess that means it's about to go mainstream! :-) - Robert Scoble
My route-around is to read Louis Gray. That's for sure. But he'll be slowed down by two new babies. But I have a lot to say on this topic. The thing is that the early adopters are way ahead of most of the world and the rest of the world needs to catch up before we can see a ton of new stuff again that'll be successful. In the area of work, for instance, on the Office 2.0 database there are more than 800 services. How many of them have any of us tried? I bet a VERY SMALL percentage. - Robert Scoble
Can't slow me down. My Thursday/Friday gap was as we were at the hospital, fattening up Sarah, but my bet is that's a blip. Two new services, never blogged about by anyone ever on Techmeme, hit the blog today. :-) - Louis Gray
I have to disagree. Been seeing more new sources as relatively unknown sources appearing on Techmeme all the time (possibly not this past week?) ... but I read Louis ... and sometimes Robert too :) - Charlie Anzman
I hope Sarah gets fat enough to release louis from fear so he can help us again :-) - Francine Hardaway via twhirl
dont forget http://emilychang.com/go/ehub ! all new products there - Marshall Kirkpatrick via fftogo
Yep, I'm listening, and appreciate the ideas. But I'm in disagreement with many people here. I can't give alot of weight to requests for coverage of new products from people who provide coverage of new products (or the products themself). And I can't give undue weight to requests for more personal blogs from personal bloggers. These suggestions are somewhat helpful, but don't speak for the vast majority of Techmeme's readers, who don't use FriendFeed or even leave comments on blogs. So why does Techmeme overlook alot of new products? Maybe there's new product fatigue. Though product launches are accelerating, people are sensing that most don't hold a lot of promise for disruption or significant growth. I'm certainly not the first to observe this. - Gabe Rivera
It would be interesting to see if someone were to calculate a success/fail ratio on these new products AND relate that to the amount of hype created in some breaking news blogs. I could tell you the outcome, no correlation at all. You either execute right or you don't. The power of the "Hype Blog" review isn't sustainable or accessible for users beyond the early adopters. - Alexander van Elsas
maybe it's just me, but i think there's a "fatigue bar" that keeps going up to get people excited about new products. i think it's more interesting to talk more about things that appear to be getting some traction than any smart little thing that releases. traction > launching - Charles Hudson
I get paid to write about start-ups, but usually it's those that raise funding, make a splash or do something new. We can read about big company news almost anywhere. I'm with Charles, though. Not every start-up is worth the virtual ink. How do you strike a balance? That would be up to Gabe's secret sauce. - Dan Kaplan
I like what Charles said. Very often, where there's traction, there's a story. What happened? Why is this catching on? What made the difference? What kind of people are using it? How is it spreading? Etc., etc. - Gabe Rivera
More information = more usability. Hope to see some new developing things on Techmeme soon. - Mark Frost
I agree in part with Gabe, but disagree too. TechMeme attracted me because it was different than what was on Google News. Now it's getting to be big-city news and isn't as interesting as hanging out in FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble
Finding all most new products worth trying via twitter/friendfeed (techmeme new product launches usually = techcrunch = PR relationship with MikeA = not enough reason to give a crap pour moi ) - leigh himel
re: a 'Techmeme' that is 'personal' -- A recent blog post from Nick Bradbury explains how the "popular topics" feature on FeedDemon is sort of like a meme-tracker limited to those blogs to which one subscribes ( http://urlzen.com/6u ). Obviously, this is not a Techmeme replacement, merely an attempt to add another means to view the conversation flow. - Rex Hammock
Gabe, to be clear, I don't think TechMeme should change. I think we need to flow around it though, provide other ways for people to find what's new. We used to have weblogs.com before the blogging world got too big and the spammers discovered it. Digg is even more of a concentrator than TM, so that isn't what I want. Oddly I don't think it's an algorithmic thing. You and I tend to view things diametrically opposite. I think human beings are the answer, you think algorithms. I think we're both right. :-0) - Dave Winer
A very basic work around, filtering some of the noise from Techmeme http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/p... or the RSS direct http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/p... - Duncan Riley
Actually aggregation only makes sense in a peer/social context: what is my social graph talking about? Search will become social - differently from what Mahalo is. #workingonit ;) - oliver gassner
Twitter
Gabe Rivera posted a message on Twitter
FriendFeed
Mack D. Male posted a message
June 25 at 9:05 am - Link
Techmeme has that. Click "Preferences". - Gabe Rivera
Really?! I had no idea...thanks so much Gabe! - Mack D. Male
Twitter
Gabe Rivera posted a message on Twitter
FriendFeed
loren Feldman posted a message
June 23 at 1:46 pm - Link
Welcome. - Hao Chen
FF doesn't suck. Once you get into it, you might wanna bring the comments back into your site. - Chris Baskind
Welcome! :) - Mathew A. Koeneker
Welcome to the clan, grab a glass of punch on your left and make yourself at home. Oh, and we're out of nametags. - Colby Olson
did you bring the puppets? - Frederic
Friendfeed is like Twitter on crack, except more stable. and highly addictive. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Uh oh, loren feldman on FF, *zing* was that a shoe that just flew by my head. Haha. Love it! - Thomas Hawk
There goes the neighborhood :) - Mike Doeff
Hi Hawk. Long time bro. - loren Feldman
good to see you here Loren. Should be entertaining. :) - Thomas Hawk
You can post ... just any kind of pablum puke, and some dope is going to respond... http://www.1938media.com/why-y... Even truer in these parts. - Gabe Rivera
thanks for the heads up Gabe - loren Feldman
Twitter
Cyndy posted a message on Twitter
Twitter
Gabe Rivera posted a message on Twitter
Disqus
Gabe Rivera commented on a blog post on Disqus
June 19 at 11:40 am - Link
"Whoa, innonate's on Techmeme again! Good luck in whatever comes next. And save me a Bricabox mug, if you have one." - Gabe Rivera
Twitter
Gabe Rivera posted a message on Twitter
Twitter
mathew ingram posted a message on Twitter
FriendFeed
Russellreno posted a link
QMeme Day One
June 17 at 3:05 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
"I though I’d compare the list on QMeme as I write this post to Techmeme. Now I love Gabe and I’m still a Techmeme addict, but at the dawn of the personal memetracker there are some significant differences in what one delivers over the other in terms of my personal likes." - Russellreno
I always wondered whether Duncan Riley loved me. Now I know. He does! - Gabe Rivera
Google Reader
Jeremy Toeman shared an item on Google Reader
June 17 at 5:07 pm - Link
Jeremy, I'm gonna assume you accidentally hit "share" on that piece of garbage. - Gabe Rivera
not a fan of Umair's, Gabe? - mathew ingram
Garbage is fun too read. - Wayne Porter
I think the author needs to Google the following: "Austrian Business Cycle Theory." - Chris Rossini
chris, the whole post is about umm...austrian economics. gabe, thanks for the personal attack. i hope the rest of you guys enjoyed it, anyways. - umair
I think civility has hurt me. Happy you're LOL though. FriendFeed comments really deliver in that dept. - Gabe Rivera
Wait, what happened to "Gabe, LOL"? You're giving me some good ideas on how to creatively abuse the "edit" function. - Gabe Rivera
1) i dont think everyone has to like what everyone else likes - that makes for an intensely boring world. 2) gabe/mathew - i like you both and respect your opinions, but i feel you both seagulled your negativity here rather than share a constructive viewpoint. 3) i shared it because its interesting - like it or not, its interesting. - Jeremy Toeman
sometimes saying something is garbage IS a constructive comment - michael arrington
look. i get the feeling i stepped on someone's toes or that there is something personal going on here. apologies if i offended anyone - the post was meant to be positive, in every sense of the word, for all of us. - umair
@Jeremy: I can't say I ever feel much of a strong desire to run to the defense of Mathew Ingram but unless I missed something he sea-gulled no negativity here. his comment basically went ignored, so it can't even be accused of egging on any of the trollism that followed... it's not fair to presume that Ingram "owes" the thread a "constructive viewpoint"... his comment, to me, looked casual and I read it with a humerous undertone... more conversation with his friend Gabe, not an attack on Umair... - Matt Shaulis
@Matt - hmm... I guess I originally read it as "[i] am not a fan" but i think you are right. Thanks, and Mr. Ingram, I do hereby fully withdraw said seagulling comment in all written, oral, and Internety forms. :) - Jeremy Toeman
Disqus
Gabe Rivera commented on a blog post on Disqus
June 17 at 5:10 pm - Link
"Dave, we're at year 15 or so of web news, and AP, today, has a form where they're asking us to pay for quotes involving just five words. With their words and deed, the AP is effectively working to stamp out freedoms we know we have. Even after last week's uproar, they actually told the NYT that even short direct quotes were not "appropriate". In light of this, I'm glad some bloggers went "nuclear", even if I didn't do so personally." - Gabe Rivera
FriendFeed
Gabe Rivera posted a link
June 16 at 12:57 am - Link
yeah, but it's not like AP is the RIAA -- who is this "voice" making these statements. Certainly not the same hacks on the editorial side ;-D - Andy Sternberg
The voice is Jim Kennedy, AP's vice president and strategy director. He engaged a bunch of bloggers via comments and email last week as well. - Gabe Rivera
Well Mr. Kennedy's "strategic planning" appears to have hit a wall. Personally, I don't want the AP to die and I don't want print to go away either. Check out this 2-year-old piece for Nieman in which Kennedy brags about the so-called forward-lookingness of the AP: http://www.nieman.harvard.edu/... - Andy Sternberg
You (Gabe) actually have some influence on this issue: Remove AP from Techmeme. Who needs them, anyway? (It's not like they would write stuff nobody else reports on.) - sebmos
Twitter