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Video: an Accel VC view of 2010 with @rich_wong http://www.youtube.com/watch... interesting conversation (he funded AdMob).
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This is a good video to watch, especially for entrepreneurs, dude is smart.
- Robert Scoble
The Watering Down Of Quality - http://www.twistimage.com/blog...
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Stunning photographs of animals inside womb | This Blog Rules - http://www.thisblogrules.com/2009...
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Beautiful!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
amazing...
- Samir Kerimov
incredible!
- MB Linder
Astounding!
- Micah Wittman
Wow, the elephant one is amazing!
- Itachi
I wonder how big that elephant is, the picture doesn't show relative size, but I'm guessing it weighs as much as me.
- Ray Cromwell
Awesome
- Frederick Bvalani
Compete reports FriendFeed traffic now is below last year's numbers. Down 21% month over month as well.
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- michael sean wright
I'm still here damnit!
- Glenn Slaven
Not me! I left a long time ago! (p.s., I can quit whenever I want)
- Louis Gray
The lightweights left. Good riddance.
- Spidra Webster
Figures. FF may have jumped the shark when it sold out to Facebook. But at least we diehards continue to stick around...
- Dennis Jernberg
my feed is jumping more than ever. something in those stats must be broken or skewed.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
"... this is when we opened the real time beta and when the beta rolled out to the main site... oh and this is when we announced the Facebook aquisition..."
- KyleHase
I've been getting a rather healthy influx of new subscribers.
- Mark Davidson
Everyone's experience is different, Joe. I believe, in aggregate, that these numbers are correct. That doesn't impact my own behavior, of course.
- Louis Gray
Yes but I think the quality of information here is much better. The people that left were producing noise. Thank god Scoble took them with him..
- Santa CW™
definitely less noise
- holly
oh, yes.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
ff's dying:(
- Igor Poltavskiy
Compete or Complete? just wondering?
- Bill Heslin
not so Igor
- Mitch
Compete.com is Incomplete, Bill. :)
- Louis Gray
it's not dying, Igor, it's just losing the "flavour of the month" people who like to talk to the mirror.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
lol...ty Louis...after I typed it I said ....Ooooh god...I'm an ass...no one needs to agree...
- Bill Heslin
I've been hit with a bunch of new followers lately. I'm still doing the same ole thing, I think. Plus, I found the librarians (or maybe they found me?).
- Derrick
@Derrick: in the end, The Librarians find us all!
- Joe Silence is not Santa
well, that's not entirely true.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
I've still got around my librarian at my U...it's a catholic u...I thank my spiritual friends...lmao
- Bill Heslin
Derrick - it was a mutual thing :)
- holly
Well, FF is probably the best of the last round of linear conversation and aggregation tools, largely thanks to the lack of overhead and fluff (the users contribute plenty). Whether you use it in a bare-bones, flat way -- or have mastered an elaborate orchestration of API hooks and fiddlizations -- there is plenty of value to be had in the way FF handles its business and lets the user handle theirs.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
This matches my observations as well and is a major reason why I've spent less time here. Chris: the problem is that most people tell me that Facebook has enough conversations for them. One of Zuckerberg's items a week ago had many thousands of comments.
- Robert Scoble
That still doesn't mean anything for me - it's still a very productive tool. I'm at an advantage by using it.
- Jesse Stay
I'm still here on FF too!
- imabonehead
quantity != quality
- holly
Compete is about as wrong as Alexa was in the old days. Seriously, I have numerous benchmarks where I *know* the traffic and Compete is often off by serious margins. Instead, I'd use Quantcast which shows a major drop off in September, but with the bottom falling out the numbers have started to trend back up again. http://www.quantcast.com/friendf...
- AJ Kohn
I agree only Quantcast is accurate-ish.
- Thomas Power
@Thomas: Yes, I'm not saying Quantcast is always right, but it's usually more right than the others.
- AJ Kohn
Alexa is a relative measure it's relatively right http://www.alexa.com/siteinf... the top sites look right-ish to me http://www.alexa.com/topsites when compared to Quantcast http://www.quantcast.com/top-sit...
- Thomas Power
Thomas, that looks pretty up and to the right to me, in a long-term sense. It's fun to look at the short-term, but we're seeing no sense on a long-term scale of FriendFeed losing traffic. Great point on the Alexa and Quantcast (assuming we even need traffic graphs to keep us on here)
- Jesse Stay
Thx J x
- Thomas Power
@Robert, I'll never argue that Facebook isn't more popular. All the cute that it offers (which isn't nearly as bad as it could be) seems to make it approachable enough to a much wider audience than a tool like FF. I get that you can filter out the fluff and minimize the Facebookishness of it, but then you're stuck with their interface and color scheme (unless I'm missing something). I guess I really see them as being different corners at the same party.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
whatever it is.friendfeed still has it's unique user group's. i am happy to be here
- İbrahim Ot
I see more interaction on my items now than in the pre-Facebook days, but I may be an outlier.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
from iPod
Well, I don't care what the numbers say. I get much more out of Friendfeed (in terms of discovery, engagement *and* enjoyment) than I ever have from Facebook - and I should point out that, with 2 or 3 exceptions, I've met everyone on my Facebook friends list.. Friendfeed demonstrates that it doesn't require a cast of 350 million to make a great community.
- Andrew Terry
hear hear Andrew
- Thomas Power
looks like FriendFeed was the first to be kicked by Facebook changes.. wich is not so bad since the service belongs to
- Frédérick 2 Baro
from Yoono
Somehow I feel the Compete state are not correct!
- Sampad Swain
I'm not going anywhere!
- Jason Hill
To get a good experience, friendfeed has always required you to put in a lot of time. So many active users comment on a thread and Hide it when they no longer have anything to say, if you come by a few hours later to comment you're just talking to a wall. friendfeed has never been very rewarding for casual use, in my experience, and that is doubly true now.
- DGentry
Awe man....
- Alternating Reality Books
What RAP says. I don't think this could ever be determined, but I wonder if certain language groups have dropped off their use while other language groups have maintained?
- Rochelle
You can Hide Stories? Really? Well, damn, so you can.
- Jason Hill
*yikes* that explains the lethargic Home Feed; less users = less interaction/activity = the lethargic(boring) feed
- sofarsoShawn
I check FF as much as I ever did (though I should prolly post more)
- Iain Baker
*quoting mode on* Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. -- Albert Einstein.
- Citronella
Do not like ...
- Charlie Anzman
not a good news
- Ted GUO
:-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Traffic Statistics: fascinating if you like numbers; otherwise it's just classic ePenis-waving, pointing, and gloating, and not really important if you're happy.
- Mark H
Without ads, how does friendfeed pay for itself?
- T. Brent, technopeasant
That's a shame seeing as FF is better than all the other social sites. I'll continue to use it until I can't.
- Araceli
All you frowny faces need to go read through the thread - FriendFeed's just fine - up and to the right even. I'm not sure why Louis felt the need to post this. See this thread, much more accurate: http://friendfeed.com/jessest...
- Jesse Stay
Note that November was the month Scoble announced publicly he was leaving Friendfeed (FTMP)
- Jesse Stay
T. Brent, FriendFeed doesn't need to make money (although I'm sure they will) - they're owned by Facebook, which is already profitable and cash-flow positive
- Jesse Stay
Yet, keep in mind FriendFeed is part of Google's deal for real-time content :-) I bet there was money there.
- Jesse Stay
Thx, Jesse.
- T. Brent, technopeasant
"Q: Why doesn’t Compete’s estimate of site visitors match my local analytics (e.g. Google Analytics, Omniture)? ... A: ... Compete measures only US activity." -- http://www.compete.com/resourc..., while the Alexa chart Jesse posted in his thread showing up-and-to-the-right growth reflects global activity. There's no real disconnect between the two charts. Which one you think matters more probably depends on what argument you're trying to support.
- Ken Sheppardson
What's friendfeed?
- veo
Ken, exactly
- Jesse Stay
veo: the matrix. you're in it. you just don't know it.
- Itachi
Interesting. I was just thinking that FF has started to die. The activity amongst my friends and friends of friends has decreased considerably in recent weeks.
- Jason Toney
oh that's not cool wonder what's going on!!!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
still here
- Mike Nencetti
successful exists do not always equal successful products once acquisiiton is complete.
- susan mernit
...still here. Still like it. Still find it useful on many levels. The thing about FF is that even at its peak, its traffic and usage wasn't even in the same league as Facebook, Twitter, or even MySpace in steep decline. The raw user numbers never (or should I say, optimistically, haven't) reached any kind of critical mass. Outside of the early-adopter and sophisticated info junkie/informavore crowds, Friendfeed, just isn't that relevant.
- .LAG liked that
Quoting Jeniffer Aniston: This is so uncool. :-(
- Olivia Lovag
why I should trust only compete's data? where is guarantee they are not biased due to some unknown reason? now if you would go to e.g. quantcast for another opinion http://www.quantcast.com/friendf... and switch between 3m, 6m, 1yr and "all"... do you see difference? yes, I know quantcast doesn't have access to data, only estimate, yet... Ok, let's try alexa.com http://www.alexa.com/siteinf... - and they also show compeletly different trend... so, WHY we should trust compete's graphs?
- A.T.
A.T., be sure to also see my article here that agrees with you: http://staynalive.com/article...
- Jesse Stay
How many people here use FF for work / project dev - or do you use it for just link sharing with friends?
- zeroinfluencer
@zeroinfluencer I use it for conversations, along shared links and not necessarily bound for them. I can't discuss my work in public at all, apart from very generic details, hence question about using it for work/project _is_ irrelevant for me. But rest is just goes here - twitter is very far behind friendfeed for me. And facebook complements friendfeed pushing it even further.
- A.T.
zerioinfluencer I use it for both
- Jesse Stay
@AT @Jessy - I use FF a lot for project dev with distributed teams - the mix of chat and sharing in private groups has proved amazing. Even team members who have never used FF before have been going "wow" why the hell haven't we used this before?
- zeroinfluencer
To my point - FF has not really been presented as more than a Twitter style app - it's far more than that IMHO. It's a swiss army knife for the web.
- zeroinfluencer
I am new so this read well. I am one of those - why the hell wasn't I here before now. I used to Icq a LONG time ago. Then did nothing for a while. Joined a fan site - LonghornNation.com and met tons of people that many are still very important friends to me - I blogged, read and interacted on forums, met tons of people at real life events. Then that site was shut down and some moved to...
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- Paulette Garcia Morris
@zeroinfluencer I use it for both too
- .LAG liked that
I'm still in love with FF as my web swiss army knife too. What should we move to when it disappear? What about Feedoor?
- Opensource Obscure
As Hawaii’s Seas Roil, Surfers Await the Big One - NYTimes - http://www.nytimes.com/glogin...
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" The world’s best surfers are waiting for a once-in-a-generation wave here along the North Shore of Oahu, after dozens of them plunged into the churning waters on Monday, dodging rocks, reefs, and driftwood in waves rarely seen even in surf paradises like Hawaii — but still shy of the big one."
- RAPatton
from iPhone
"Surf experts and weather officials have forecast a swell — churned by North Pacific storms — that may rival those of 1969, considered a seminal year in surfing the North Shore, where images of surfers flying down towering waves helped bring the sport into the mainstream and into the perennial realm of cool. In the next day or so, 30-foot to 50-foot wave faces are possible, according to the National Weather Service, the type of prediction that sends professional wave-riders into an extremely mellow frenzy."
- RAPatton
from iPhone
Heard a 50 ft'er is coming ... google " laird hamilton " he has ridden some of the Monsters
- johnpiercy
My mom learned how to surf in Hawaii back in the 50's. I've always wanted to learn.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Successful blog marketing – 3 things to consider! - http://jimsmarketingblog.com/2009...
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Ning Reaches 37 Million Users, Launches Developer Appathon - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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Ning Reaches 37 Million Users, Launches Developer Appathon
- Dan Schawbel
Bald bears baffle vets with mystery condition at German zoo | Mail Online - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news...
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- Mo Kargas
from Bookmarklet
aww. poor thing
- pea
onoes!!!!
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
aww... but NIGHTMARES WILL PLAGUE ME TONIGHT.
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
Not nearly as cute bald. Ack.
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
Probably has something to do with a creature that belongs in the wild being shoved in a cage. Ohh it may not have bars, but the animal is still not free to lead a natural life.
- Mo Kargas
John Irving would have a field day writing about this.
- Ciaoenrico
Eek! It looks like a dogaphant.
- Admiral Anika
Poor things. I'll bet it's stress.
- Ayşe E.
i thought it was a photoshop at first. wow... dogaphant is about right.
- Gus
Dude...who writes the captions on those photos? "She lethal claws are clearly visible"
- Admiral Anika
Yup, was thinking the same thing. What annoys me is this clearly suffering animal will become a spectacle for all the wrong reasons.
- Mo Kargas
My 9 year old cynic just said "I bet they shaved them to make more money"
- Alan Simpson
Some scifi writer just discoverd a new monster for his next movie. Wow!
- Shannon
Yikes!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
oh my damn
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
OMG. Sad.
- rowlikeagirl
That's a bear?? oh no..
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I would never have guessed this was a bear. The poor, poor thing....plus cold, and also rashes....
- Bonnie Foster
Nice haircut though.
- Ton Zijp
If this unfortunate creature was in my neck of the woods we'd be convinced it was a chupacabra.
- Laura (hear me raura?)
ewwwww
- johnpiercy
:( The bear looks so sad. I hope they figure out what is causing this.
- adf
Thorough and well-written Motorola DROID review « Boy Genius Report - http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...
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"We absolutely love the Motorola DROID. It’s a perfect storm between awesome hardware, great software, and a great network"
- Louis Gray
from Bookmarklet
My wife has already kinda resigned herself to the likelyhood that there will be a DROID being purchased in the near future.
- Wirehead
Go Google go.
- Mahmood Padura
Louis, Did you get your wife that new phone yet? This might be the one!!
- Chris Myles
Chris, she just got a new MacBook and new printer. She's spoiled enough for now.
- Louis Gray
I'm going to wait & see. I'd like to see one with multitouch, Snapdragon processor, and a better keyboard, preferably made by HTC
- Rodfather
I was really looking to this handset... until I read the reviews; nothing positive has been about the camera, and for me, that's a deal breaker. The good news is, the problems *seem* to be software related rather than hardware, so maybe a fix will appear soon.
- Andrew Terry
Sooner or later someone will release a smartphone that makes me want to buy it. I keep waiting.
- Eoghann Irving
The same here Rodfather, I'm addicted to multitouch, no reason to go.
- jcunwired
no multitouch... really. i'll try it out, but that could break the deal for me. still, my Pre may be getting nervous...
- .LAG liked that
Louis, a wife spoiled with a Droid means husbands gets to help/play/review .. at least that's the logic I'm trying to use to justify OUR purchase. Although your wife does sound sufficiently spoiled.. for now !!
- Chris Myles
There is a demo video floating around that shows a version of droid with multitouch. If they release that, and it's GSM, i'm probably buying.
- dthree
The Droid in Europe has multitouch.
- Rodfather
I /will/ be buying one on Friday. I /will/ pay the exorbitant disconnect fees from AT&T to get off of their network. I <3 Verizon Wireless and Google for giving me something to move to.
- Jason Huebel
Blue Language From Schwarzenegger's Red Pen ? - : NPR - http://www.npr.org/blogs...
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His office swears (pun intended) that it's unintentional. But reading down the lines, it sure looks like California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger dropped an F-bomb on his critics in the California State Assembly. San Francisco Chronicle columnists Phillip Matier and Andrew Ross show how, in a veto message, the guvernator's words line up so that if you read down the left side it spells out ... well, we can't write what it spells out. Let's just say it's a pretty common two-word combination in which the first word is four letters long and begins with "F" and the second word is three letters long and begins with "Y".
- Eric Logan
from Bookmarklet
Doesn't surprise me.
- Lynda Dmoch
Every corporation should make a Twitter list of employees like IBM Research is: @IBMResearch/ibmresearchers
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That would imply that every employee should be on Twitter
- Jesse Stay
Zappos thinks that. Me too.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Never gonna happen, especially in public companies.
- Jesse Stay
Every employee? Janitors? Contractors? Interns? Everyone? That's way too much for employers to expect of their employees, and given the wide range of opinions and personalities every company hires, not going to end up working out so well for the company.
- Stephen Mack
My dad goes through enough trouble to keep his name off the web. He's an Executive VP for a public international company, and he'd prefer anything but required SEC information remain offline. I'm appreciative of that, as it makes him and my family a target.
- Jesse Stay
The public company who is my client has a hard enough time getting people to know Twitter exists, let alone get its engineers tweeting. It's small right now.
- Louis Gray
Louis, funny thing is my dad was educating my Aunt on how to use Twitter for her business the other day. Totally blew me away that he knew so much about the service. I agree though - he would very much be in the minority.
- Jesse Stay
If every employee was tweeting, I'd never get my emails answered.
- Bernie Goldbach
All employees will tweet... somehow...This will happen, even if it takes time. These larger corporates can run but they cannot hide
- Johan Horak
What Startups Are Really Like - http://www.paulgraham.com/really...
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You need persistence because everything takes longer than you expect. A lot of people were surprised by that. I'm continually surprised by how long everything can take. Assuming your product doesn't experience the explosive growth that very few products do, everything from development to dealmaking (especially dealmaking) seems to take 2-3x longer than I always imagine. One reason founders are surprised is that because they work fast, they expect everyone else to. There's a shocking amount of shear stress at every point where a startup touches a more bureaucratic organization, like a big company or a VC fund. That's why fundraising and the enterprise market kill and maim so many startups.
- Hutch Carpenter
Friendfeed confirms no more features coming to Friendfeed | The Tech News Blog - http://www.thetechnewsblog.com/2009...
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Friendfeed’s Paul Buchheit has just confirmed to me that the next ‘big’ new feature coming to Friendfeed, will be the last. This comes a day after Buchheit issued a confusing statement about the future of the platform he co-founded. Here’s what Buchheit just told me, in full:
- Jim Connolly
from Bookmarklet
I believe a steady revenue stream could change everything Jim: http://bit.ly/3Qer81
- Mark Essel
Mark: Not sure how it would change things for Paul and the guys - they just sold out to Facebook and have more money than they will ever need. (and they deserve every fricking penny BTW!!!)
- Jim Connolly
Well they sold for 50million, of that the various investors probably got 60-70%, with founders and early employees splitting the remaining 15-20million. Probably no more than a few million each (yeah nothing to spit at), but if they cashed out taxes would cut that in half, I think they still have to keep working. I think they sold too cheap, with 1 million users some focused and tasteful ads would have gotten far more revenue.
- Mark Essel
whew, got ya refollowed (went through and cleared out my following list on twitter now that I may have to use it again ;). staring from scratch)
- Mark Essel
A sign of how quiet things are now on Friendfeed? I've had 5 (FIVE) click-throughs from friendfeed to my blog after posting this here. 3 months ago it would have been massively more. Really sad watching it die slowly like this.
- Jim Connolly
Is that really a sign that it is dying or a sign that people are tired of reading the "death of friendfeed" posts?
- Alan Simpson
+1 Alan
- Eric Logan
Alan: Not sure - but when a post has twice as many 'likes' as clicks it means something. That same post's been read over 400 times so far - so there's some interest out there.
- Jim Connolly
Mark: not true. Advertising for a million users wouldn't bring in that much on a forum-based site. Average CPM is about $3 per 1,000 page views. That wouldn't make anyone rich. The way Paul will become really rich is to help make Facebook a public company (they are well on their way). That means pouring all his skills into making Facebook a better service for its 300 million users (and growing).
- Robert Scoble
Alan: And there's no longer a debate - the co-founder confirmed no new development.
- Jim Connolly
Thats sad...
- Roshan Ramachandran
It's also worth pointing out how much respect I now have for Paul, for being good enough to let us know the future plans - well, lack of future plans. That took balls and he deserves some credit.
- Jim Connolly
bummer
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Feedback please: Do I delete my account now the platform's no longer being developed?
- Jim Connolly
Why would you delete it ? A lot of things have always just been fed through here without active participation.
- Eric Logan
So Jim, this is why you were pestering him so much in the thread? So that you could get a catchy headline for your blog? He said - "Jim, there may be a few new things, but as I said, the team is mainly working on fb platform and openness, so it's unlikely that there will be any big new features of ff (except maybe one that I've been thinking about for a while...). I don't see that as a...
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- Kenton
When platforms cease being invested in, as you know, they slowly grind to a halt. Is it better to invest the time I spend here on a platform that's growing - rather than shrinking?
- Jim Connolly
Kenton: I don't need a catchy headline for a blog, thats only updated a couple of times a week and run as a pastime. The feedback you gave about deleting accounts screwing up comments makes sense. When the co-founder says that "it's unlikely that there will be any big new features of ff" I believe him.
- Jim Connolly
I guess it depends on why you're investing your time. If it is in the community, then I don't see why you can't still contribute. If you're using it for increasing your personal brand, business, blog traffic, etc then you are probably right to invest your time on sites that see more traffic and growth.
- Kenton
Kenton is right, you're title is wrong, fact. He did not say NO new features.
- Keith Bennett
If engagement continues to go down everyone will eventually migrate. I am sure there are a few groups talking to each other and the bots on Friendster. I do not see any reason why you would not continue to pipe in your content. I haven't found or been introduced to anything better at present. I do see some potential for Wave with proper development despite its complexity.
- Eric Logan
There's really nothing cool about all this cryptic communication Paul is giving us. All it's doing is riling us up and causing us to be unnecessarily speculative. We made this site be worth 50m, so we therefore don't deserve to be strung along like this.
- Brad Williamson
Keith: Did you interpret "it's unlikely that there will be any big new features of ff" as meaning there WILL be more big new features?
- Jim Connolly
"Thank you" - Seems the route is to keep the account alive, rather then mess up content for other users by deleting it. Appreciate the heads-up.
- Jim Connolly
Six clicks now, fwiw.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
Gotta go. Just subscribed to everyone who's commented here - so you can DM me. Really appreciate the feedback.
- Jim Connolly
Jim: No I didn't, but I also didn't post an article saying there will be NONE! Fact is, we don't know what they are up to, what they plan to do and that's what causes the speculation. You're adding fuel to the fire and I think you should change the title, that's all. Personally, I'm in the wait and see what happens camp. I'm happy with the service as is and I'm sure what emerges from the FB integration will be interesting, but until I know what that is, I'm happy to continue with what I have.
- Keith Bennett
y'all are beating a dead horse here. of course it's gonna die. Of course people are jumping off the ship. look at any number of other tech acquisitions and what became of them. It's not really that complicated.
- Bill Kinney
ICQ still exists...Winamp still exists...AOL still exists (but why?)
- Alex Scoble
Robert: $3 per 1000 views is pretty bad. I think I can do better through use of learning about what folks like in their streams. Heck I can't believe search activated ads are that weak. Well in a few more years that may be profitable (bandwidth/servers/etc are all getting cheaper, while our attention is staying even in value).
- Mark Essel
Another FriendFeed self prophecy post. Cast doubt about its future so users begin leaving, then it will HAVE to close because of lack of users! You should be doing the opposite and encouraging folks to join...its users that keep a service afloat..
- technogran
I don't want swine flu, but I also don't want to be injected with something invented just a month or two ago.
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totally agree
- Edgar Rodríguez
I also heard on the news that it's just a watered down version of the virus, and not recommended for pregnant women or people with weak immune systems. That just doesn't sound safe to me...
- Georgia Diehl
No, only the nasal spray is a live vaccine. The shots that will be given are a dead vaccine.
- Alex Scoble
I thought quite a few vaccines were done with live viruses.
- ha3rvey (just a friend)
oh ok, thanks Alex
- Georgia Diehl
I heard this on NPR yesterday, which addresses the concerns you've raised as well as several others: http://www.npr.org/templat...
- Paul Wilcox
From the piece I just posted: "First concern: some people are afraid the new vaccine isn't safe: it hasn't been tested enough, they rushed to make it too quickly, I don't want to be a guinea pig. Wrong. This new vaccine was made the same way, with the same ingredients, at the same factories, as regular seasonal flu vaccine, which is an extremely safe vaccine. There has been no evidence...
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- Paul Wilcox
Great way of putting it.
- Kai
Paul, you beat me to it -- I was going to quote that as well. There are some good FAQs about this at WebMD: http://www.webmd.com/cold-an...
- Stephen Mack
Georgia, almost every vaccine is a "watered down version of the virus" -- that's the whole idea behind vaccines. From that FAQ: "The FluMist nasal spray works differently. It contains a live flu virus that has been weakened to the point that it can't cause the flu. That sounds pretty scary, but millions of people have safely taken this kind of vaccine. The advantage of the nasal spray...
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- Stephen Mack
But would you want to be riding around downtown San Francisco in your Mustang with your German Shephard hunting deer and avoiding zombies? Just get the shot like the rest of us.
- Ken Sheppardson
There are basically two types of flu vaccine we use: killed inactivated virus and live attenuated virus. Killed inactivated virus can't actually cause disease (although some people can feel symptomatic because the immune response can make you feel sick anyway.) In theory, live attenuated virus can actually cause disease, although it's not going to be as severe as the actual virus, and it also generates a better immune response.
- Victor Ganata
But, as everyone else has already said, the H1N1 vaccine is generated by the same techniques they use for the regular seasonal flu vaccine.
- Victor Ganata
Not saying I agree, but here's a story that questions the efficacy of flu vaccines in general. http://www.theatlantic.com/doc...
- Kevin Pedraja
Money quote: "Jackson’s findings showed that outside of flu season, the baseline risk of death among people who did not get vaccinated was approximately 60 percent higher than among those who did, lending support to the hypothesis that on average, healthy people chose to get the vaccine, while the “frail elderly” didn’t or couldn’t. In fact, the healthy-user effect explained the entire...
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- Kevin Pedraja
I take an immune suppressing drug to treat my Crohns so my Docs always recommend a flu shot and I take them but frankly I feel like I'd get the same effect by a lighting a candle at the cathedral
- WarLord
As far as vaccines go, like if you compare it to polio or the measles, it isn't that great. Still, it be interesting to see the data in other at-risk populations, like ex-premies and kids with asthma, and adults with certain chronic diseases, populations in which the pathophysiology is a lot more specific than in the elderly. And while it might not do much for the average healthy individual, I wonder if it at least cuts down on transmission.
- Victor Ganata
The older I get, the more I love flu shots. I hope that the last time I had the flu as an adult (long time ago, now) was the last time, ever. Who can trade away weeks of productivity and engagement for that long miserable time of pain and fever followed by feeling like a jellyfish? Too awful. Already got my regular shot, and will happily go for the H1N1 shot, as well. Few more years, and I'll get to add the pneumonia shot to the mix, too. Bless you, scientists.
- Kathy Fitch
Know what you mean Kevin.
- Hutch Carpenter
++Kathy. Science Rocks! If only the H1N1 vaccine were available in the Bay Area... *sigh*
- EricaJoy
I just avoid human contact. That seems to work pretty well.
- Cristo
Wash you're hands a lot! Look you've been fine so far right?
- orionstarr
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Kevin, I'm inclined to agree with you. I also read something recently, but have misplaced, that the virus was mutating and that the current vaccine may not be as effective as first thought. Don't quote me on that until I can find it. I'm with WarLord. I have a weak immune system and I would just as soon take occillcoxcinum and just use sensible precautions.
- Melanie Reed
I'm with Paul Wilcox on this one. The reason why it has been invented "just one or two months ago" is because it passed the *administrative* processes very quickly (without all the usual red-tape for regulating therapeutic goods). Otherwise, the vaccine has succeeded all the usual clinical trials. At least that's what French officials (from many health organizations) are saying.
- Jérôme Flipo
it appeared in the 1970's (http://diseases-viruses.suite101.com/article...), there shoulda been no reason to "rush" a vaccine for this, :(
- chaz2b
we wont know since the 70s version was never distributed
- chaz2b
no, i think it was a hurrried endeavor like now, and when the talk of mandatory vaccination spread, ppl panicked, and it was shelved
- chaz2b
Chaz, I don't understand your article: what does it show? Otherwise, it reminds us that the 1918 flu caused 50 to 100M deaths and got probably 500M people infected. With similar ratio for today's world, that would be 200M deaths and over 2B infections :(
- Jérôme Flipo
i'm just showing that this isnt the first time we've encountered this
- chaz2b
I remember that chazz2b. And also, there are a lot of people right now who I'll bet can't even afford the $25 I saw Kroger was charging.
- Melanie Reed
thats my mnain concern about it, the cost & long term effects on ppl. and, if we encountered it in the 70s theres no reason the vaccine wasnt better tested and on hand for now, :( who among us has a small pox scar, who doesnt, and who thinks there isnt stockpiles of that vaccination sitting somewhere?
- chaz2b
Chaz, the point is that the pandemic is expected to happen this fall and we can't wait & see the long term effects if it mutes and become as deadly as the 1918 one. If you were responsible for the WHO, what would you recommend? And what would you think if most people think they would prefer to wait and see?
- Jérôme Flipo
i cant find the article i'm looking for on the fly, so i'll wing it, wash you hands, use hand sanitizer, stay away from sick ppl, stay home if sick, and cough into your shoulder for starters
- chaz2b
lol, the cdc page about swine flu facts is currently down, so thats not helping (http://www.cdc.gov/flu...)
- chaz2b
hey, just search "flu" on my posts, i've got quite allot of bookings about this dating back to april
- chaz2b
Point taken. The vaccine is not going to supplant universal precautions as a way to avoid the flu.
- Victor Ganata
Wouldn't worry about it, had swineflu back in July and it's one of the mildest forms of flu I've had, didn't cause me any problems with my asthma but did linger around for a few days...
- Andy Davies
It's no different then getting the regular flu shot-the only reason it is separate from the regular one is that they didn't have time to combine them. If you are at risk-get your friggin shot.
- Kelly W.
Flu can be a brutal thing, and it's unpredictable. I'm sticking my arm out there for all available shots that help protect against it, even if that protection might not be total or perfect! Hit me up, needle wielders!
- Kathy Fitch
For those of you who decide to take the flu vaccine, please check at your university (if you are still student or staff) because the CDC has made them priority and you can get it for free: http://www.iupui.edu/~prepar...
- Melanie Reed
Get the vaccine. The first night swine flu hit me, my heart started racing and I stopped breathing. I'm 22, and otherwise completely healthy. (on no medications)
- Jess Dennis
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Yikes!
- Mark Harai
Regular flu shot contains 4 different flu virus strains. If H1N1 had been prepared just 2 months earlier, it would have been included in this seasons' shot (all 5 strains in 1 shot) rather than a separate shot. Hysteria over vaccinations amazes me and damages public health. The world got punked by a fraudulent study on Autism and Vaccines in the UK paid for my lawyers cruising for money and almost 2 decades later, we are still seeing drops in people vaccinating their children.
- Ray Cromwell
+1 Ray. Vaccines are safe, hands down. The autism-vaccine hysteria is so frustrating - no matter how much the link is disproved, the vaccine deniers keep pushing it (Jenny McCarthy, Jim Carrey, etc.) They took all the thimerosal out of the vaccines which was the crux of their original argument, but they'll always find something in there that they don't like. (i assume you meant "paid...
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- Matt Mastracci
Their argument is vaccines are up, autism is up, and they both happened at the same time. Even though all three of those "facts" are actually untrue. (Vaccines are flat, autism is arguably down even though measurement is up, and they didn't actually happen at the same time.)
- Stephen Mack
I would also expect that with radical changes in our living (having kids at later age, working moms, more stress, sedentary lifestyle, dietary alterations like sugar intake way up) that there is bound to be some changes in early childhood diseases. We had our first child at 33, our risk of trisomy/downs syndrome was 1 in 240 at that point.
- Ray Cromwell
I find that this fear of vaccines comes from the generation that doesn't have personal memories of the sanitoriums of iron lungs - toddlers with braces and crutches and the like. The real problem with your decision not to take the flu shot is that it will probably influence the decision of those closest to you. The whole concept of "herd" theory then is out the door - because the one...
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- Robyn Hawk
Certainly, there's nothing like an outbreak to convince people to vaccinate. After we had the measles outbreak in San Diego, I heard vaccination rates went back up to levels where we could maintain herd immunity. Seriously, it would truly suck if polio made a come-back.
- Victor Ganata
Victor, isn't it true that some illnesses are more easily controlled through vaccines that others?
- Kevin Pedraja
Google being secretive- as always Rt @db New blog post - Google traffic is flat and they dont want U to have their data: http://thecauseisthehabit.com/google-...
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This sounds interesting, shame exams are coming up
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Social Media For the Risk Averse - http://altitudebranding.com/2009...
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Next, they need to add comments to their new RT API...
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I would hate that
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OH: "The Nobel Prize for Technology today was awarded to Google Wave" (via @stshank)
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really?
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Apparently it narrowly beat out the Crunchpad http://friendfeed.com/louisgr...
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Crunchpad 3.0 is better.
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Wikipedia Co-Founder: Openness Is Not the Enemy of Quality - http://mashable.com/2009...
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he is a very interesting man_ Jimmy Wales. Please take a look at my article http://atifunaldi.wordpress.com/2009...
- Atif UNALDI
hey feds, please just leave the Internet unregulated. there are already effective incentives in place.
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what we need is just enough regulation to deter the telco/cable bozos from locking out their competitors. for instance, time warner trying to protect their dinosaur video product from IPTV and à la carte offerings by suffocating your bandwidth making them cost prohibitive.
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...and how their VOIP product is exempt from your monthly bandwidth allocation, but skype and vonage are not.
- Byron McCollum
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- Byron McCollum
How can we sleep soundly at night with the United States so far behind Japan in broadband?
- Brandon Smietana
Darn right.
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I read thousands of tweets for http://twitter.com/scoblei... and am very happy that Wave was rarely mentioned today.
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Social media blog launch: http://jimsmarketingblog.com/2009...
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