What is this, the Twelve Days of Halloween? :)
- Cristo
Cristo, it would seem that way. Party at a friend's yesterday, party at church today and then the real Halloween on the 31st. Should be the last of the silly pictures (those including me) for a while.
- Louis Gray
Clarifying the costumes, Matthew is a Dragonsaurus and Sarah was a ladybug.
- Louis Gray
Yes, all this hosting and file serving is free to provide anyway. They must just be trying to really screw us by raking in even MORE money with those ads. How evil of them.
- David Chartier
from iPhone
skipscreen was working before but it stopped working for rapidshare recently. If you are downloading lot of stuff it makes sense to actually pay for rapidshare month by month, with no yearly commitments, mind you.
- TrafficBug
If you use all the latest version of IE, Firefox, Opera, your Google Homepage shall be sexy. I checked! Unless u have issues, let me know here:) thanx.
- polou/indigo_bow
from Bookmarklet
"Was my Xbox 360 version of Need for Speed Shift really trying to access the Playstation Store? Microsoft are not going to be happy about this."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
"Hulu is expanding beyond its walls. The company launched its Watch Now Facebook App where audiences can watch season premieres and comment in a group setting. hulu_facebook_sept09.jpgWatch Now is very similar in design to the White House Live Facebook App. While the White House's app allows users to debate alongside a live stream of Obama's speeches, the Hulu app offers users a more lighthearted experience by building dialogue on the latest shows."
- duprat julien
from Bookmarklet
Not official yet I think, but the screenshot is real and provides some info. The "Porting Tumblr" tab explains that you can use Tumblr themes as is, but all Tumblr blocks in the code won´t be supported at first.
- Thomas Bøhm
Can we use widgets and javascript code?
- Svartling
I think it will spawn quite a large number of available themes and probably cannibalize Tumblr quite a bit. @Garry: Sorry, but it wasn't a very well kept secret;) Google blogsearch showed it to me on a search I had surrounding Posterous.
- Thomas Bøhm
from BuddyFeed
@Svartling: No, not at first it says. But knowing Posterous it'll probably come along.
- Thomas Bøhm
from BuddyFeed
I like posterous very much. Just hope it will survive from the Internet censorship here in china. Oh, the Chinese Great Firewall is sucks. There are so many victims, Twitter, friendfeed, facebook, YouTube, blogger, picasa web... Too many to count. Sigh...
- yezi
from fftogo
So, when does this theming feature become available? ;-)
- Rubin Sfadj
It's been leaking for a while now ... any update on projected availability? There have been a number of new features added since this was posted here.
- Allan Besselink
I am still searching the web for something interesting to post. So far nothing.........
- TheHenry
coming up to 5pm Monday here in Brisbane, Australia. I'm about to head home having done my day's work. Checking in on FF makes the last quarter hour more bearable :)
- Matt Hooper
I just checked Twitter and here was the most interesting Tweet on the page - "OMG, so sorry guys, I was being sarcastic to the ones who replied to my crazy tweet. Nothing is the matter. Thanks for all the quick replies" (nothing happening over there other than crazy tweets!)
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
It's been pretty quiet over there, too. Maybe this whole social media thing is dying out? LOL!
- Kimber Scott
If social media is dead it's Robert's fault for going out in the sun.
- WorldofHiglet
Kimber: Tell that to Chris Pirillo. He'll flip! I'm reading his blog and watching his live stream.
- Amir
from iPod
Or, I mean Chris Pirillo of MSNBC fame. Really white teeth? Talk so fast he gets a little spit buildup at the corners of his mouth? That Chris Pirillo?
- Kimber Scott
from email
And of course most of these tech people have never done a real days work in their lives so they get up about 11am ;)
- Mark
Having read your comment I felt compelled to make it 7 and support a new site.
- Benjy Felsham
LOL was currenly wondering how to fit Freindfeed into the whole mix (other than just having it following me - aka stalking me - all over te net) but considering the 51 comments, maybe I should still consider using it for something. :)
- Phillip Grady Jr
I've read this. seems more then six? ;)
- James Kuypers
Oh, sorry Amir. I was wondering why the geeks on FF were always talking about a political consultant with big teeth and sticky mouth corners. So, now I know it's not the same guy! I was thinking of Chris Cilliza... oops.
- Kimber Scott
from email
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- پـرستووو
from email
"It’s taking something everyone knows on the web (your email address) and making it immensely more valuable as a way to identify yourself and information about you. Exactly what kind of information? Here are some of the ideas from the WebFinger Google Code page: * public profile data * pointer to identity provider (e.g. OpenID server) * a public key * other services used by that email address (e.g. Flickr, Picasa, Smugmug, Twitter, Facebook, and usernames for each) * a URL to an avatar * profile data (nickname, full name, etc) * whether the email address is also a JID, or explicitly declare that it’s NOT an email, and ONLY a JID, or any combination to disambiguate all the addresses that look like something@somewhere.com * or even a public declaration that the email address doesn’t have public metadata, but has a pointer to an endpoint that, provided authentication, will tell you some protected metadata, depending on who you authenticate as."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
I don't want my contact information to be my identifier. I shouldn't have to give a website my email address, just like I shouldn't have to give a store my phone number.
- Daniel Sims
Daniel, I think it just takes the form of an email address, but does not in fact have to be one (or could be a "throw away" account).
- Paul Buchheit
It would be cool if we could get our act together (as an industry) and make this stuff happen. I'd also like to see ENUM deployed to the point that my phone number can be linked to my identity. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...)
- Joe Beda
This is a bad idea in so many ways I can't even begin to list them.
- April Russo (app103)
If a site wants my email address, it's probably in order to spam me. It's usually a bad sign. If legit sites ask for my email more, it will make it harder to identify the spammers.
- Tim Tyler
Do gmail users seriously still have problems with spam? I don't.
- Robin Barooah
Personally this sounds great - as long as it really doesn't force you to use your actual gmail address.
- Robin Barooah
Does this mean I can have a .plan again?
- Benjamin Lee
Sounds like the .plan which is (again) accessed via an id in email format and returns different information/metadata about a person depending on who's accessing it. Email id is used to do a DNS lookup in order to discover URL for the XRD file (accessed with a HTTP GET) containing the metadata about the person being, er, WebFinger-ed.
- Nenad Nikolic
it is like user authenticating, having two three ids won't hurt ;) well i don't want to be identified, they are going same as gravatar
- testbeta
It's so curious to me that people have concerns that WebFinger would lead to more spam, and yet don't like the "format" of URLs for IDs. Personally, as far as OpenID is concerned, I don't care what the identifier looks like as long as people can remember it — typically email seems easier to recall than URLs (for most people in today's world).
- Chris Messina
Some users who have an email account with Google, myself included, have oodles of incoming mail both standard and secure so it fits the bill to increase security for both vendors and marketers.
- frank burns
I have no problem with the idea, but it seems to me that it won't help the current state of affairs much. The kind of information I'd be interested in sharing via Webfinger (my OpenID, a URL to a FOAF file, etc.) will have no better adoption, so the Webfinger configuration doesn't buy me much. I'll hold out hopes that after a couple tight integrations between Webfinger and OpenID providers (say if Google, Microsoft and/or Yahoo provided and consumed both) things will improve ... here's to hoping :(
- J. McConnell
Nonsense. When does a bunch of features become a service? What if FF has more features than Twitter (it does) - is it somehow less of a service than Twitter?
- Leo Laporte
Charlie: Jason wants some engagement. Can't you tell?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
You mean Friendfeed will become necessary infrastructure for any social network? I fail to see how that's a bad thing.
- Victor Ganata
We already have Guy Kawasaki, we don't need Ashton, or Oprah.
- Matt Ruiz
There's not a lot of discussion about a friendfeed business model, generally, in the blogosphere, is there? I wonder why this is? Friendfeed continue to innovate and come up with great ideas and ways to receive, filter and digest information and it's clear that other sites copy their ideas. I am definitely not keen for FF to go mainstream - personally I like the fact that I can keep my circle of friends here to those (primarily tech/web) folks that I want to gather information from and interact with.
- Matt Hooper
Jason is right though. I wonder what FriendFeed is going to be in the future. It clearly hasn't grown enough and isn't differentiated enough to be taken seriously.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
When Google Wave was first announced, I thought "Hey, it's a lot like FriendFeed." Maybe Google Wave stole it's thunder, but FriendFeed feels like what e-mail would look like if it was designed today.
- Scott Loganbill
Come to mention it, does anyone remember Google Wave since the announcement?
- Scott Loganbill
Scott: I'll remember it when it's actually released.
- Matt Ruiz
Actually... everything is a feature. 'Communication' is the service.
- Johnny Worthington
My point is that I don't think there is a viable business model for FF as a standalone business. FF as a feature set has already gone mainstream: It's called FACEBOOK. And FF-like features will be integrated into most social networks. FF like features will be "copied" and tightly integrated into other services. So where does that leave FF? How will FF make money? How will FF grow a...
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- Jason Goldberg
Err... Facebook was mainstream before it got the 'feature set'. Facebook exists based on ads that everyone hates and the only reason everyone is there is because everyone else is there... just like it was with Myspace. You are looking at the pork roast before you even fattened the pig. Think of all the massive online experiments that are now floundering. Digg was hot. Everyone had a...
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- Johnny Worthington
Jason - I think I know from where your comment comes :) XING is/will implement more or less ALL FF features. I have been watching for a while SocialMedian/XING and now in particular with XING Partner Ecosystem is you guys plan to open..this is where you are going. But ovearll I think you are missing the point that FF is not about features but about "communication and communities" . And its growing..
- TechFuga
I'm a big FF fan. It's an awesome service. The question I have is there a market for this as a sustainable standalone service?
- Jason Goldberg
FriendFeed is one on the online services I'd pay for. Effective aggregation of diverse social media feeds has both business and personal value. Such a service is only valuable if it integrates the feeds I want to see, not just one. Conversely, I would not pay for Facebook; its signal/noise ratio is far too low to be a useful aggregator, and appears to be evolving into an advertising platform.
- David Lounsbury
What Jason means is that "social" is a feature which will be integrated into everything. Friends, sharing, liking, commenting, etc will eventually find their into pretty-much every internet service, from writing documents through to video hosting. Google Reader is the first (but not only) example of this - and it may (and I emphasise "may", not "will") mean that friendfeed becomes redundant.
- Ian Betteridge
Your child has the most value after it has been potty trained and finished second grade. Do you sell it then?
- Todd Hoff
cool ! i want to see FF everywhere. in all social networks, I jus love to have mi FF in Twitter, Bing, Facebook,iLike
- Đoи яамoη
from twhirl
This might hold water if Google Wave wasn't announced, or if you didn't listen to Bret Taylor at Crunchup. The future isn't FriendFeed-like features getting added to every walled garden social networking site: the future is federated social networking. It doesn't matter that you have the same features as someone else, in fact, that's to your benefit, because in the future, if you can't...
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- Mark Trapp
Another example of how flawed this line of thinking is: end of the 90s. Search was just a "feature" to larger portal sites. Guess who won? The one company that offered search as a service. The history of technology is littered with examples of winners who implemented one thing really well and losers who tried to do everything.
- Mark Trapp
I'm not convinced that Google Wave is going to be anything other than another walled garden, to be honest. But I don't think your argument really holds water, Mark. I remember not that long ago site owners who didn't want comments on content, and who argued that users' comments should be confined to linked-to forums - for exactly the same reasons you're outlining. Sharing, liking,...
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- Ian Betteridge
I think Mr. Goldberg could be on the money here. "Look, FF is an awesome service with a great early-adopter tech-savvy loyal userbase. But what does that get FF? Would someone acquire FF today for the userbase or the technology?" Nope, but maybe for the talented engineers. ;)
- Pete Delucchi
FF is a service, it might become just a feature under Facebook. Whichever service remains as an independent aggregator is where I'll move if that happens.
- Allred
from Android
Who is this guy and why are we concerned about his tales of the future?
- Fleagle
@Fleagle ... Jason Goldman started SocialMedian, a robust, and well-respected social media sharing service that's very similar in many respects to FF, and he sold it to, I think, Xing.
- .LAG liked that
A feature? The Friendfeed website seems much more of a viable service than Twitter.
- Hunt
from iPhone
Robert - Have been busy with 'new stuff' and just revisiting this. The argument is that there isn't any (argument). Of all the SERVICES I've used over the years, Friendfeed has been BY FAR the most innovative, productive (and/or fun). I'm not goin' anywhere and the more I think about it, the more I find it sad that they felt the need to sell at this juncture (although I can understand it). Count me among the many that hopes it stays right here.
- Charlie Anzman
If you *had* to use Google Reader instead of FriendFeed what would you change about Google Reader? And what are the pros and cons of GReader as it stands now?
For sure, Google Reader has likes and comments, you can share (reshare) whatever you see in your feeds to your followers and there are groups (well can you view by group though?) but there are no DMs and I'm finding the Comment View very chaotic and annoying, for example, I have to expand the post every time (would prefer at least a bigger preview of the post). What the comments system needs, for me, is AJ's very cool commenting highlighting that is on Cleaner FriendFeed. That helps my FF experience hugely. There is no duplicate detector either and lifestreaming is perhaps not the best. What do you think? #alternativetoFF
- Kol Tregaskes
I'd agree with all of those; they also need to clean up the management of your friends / contacts / groups / etc. The way that stuff interacts with GMail Contacts is still rather chaotic and confusing.
- Tristan Seligmann
Personally I'd add GTalk/Chat support
- S.D.Allen
from IM
S.D. built in Gtalk support would be useful or simply made easy to 'DM' followerrs but perhaps this should be toggleable for each user.
- Kol Tregaskes
A cleaner social interface, so I can manage my contacts, etc. as Tristan said.
- phil baumann
The People You Follow view doesn't have to be the exact same as the Subscriptions view. If that interface could be tweaked to be a bit more socially-conducive, that may help.
- phil baumann
I would like to see my friend's friends.
- Damond Nollan
Agreed. Comment view is a mess. If they could get that cleaned up it would be a nice replacement. gTalk integration would be very cool. I have been adding more and more people to my Google Contacts thanks to Google Voice so it makes a lot of sense to have that contact list be my primary list for friends. That makes GR a particularly interesting FF replacement to me.
- Sean Brady
better comments and grouping of friends...need a lot of work
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Dobromir, what is the issue with groups? I don't use but curious.
- Damond Nollan
I do agree the comments could be better. I notice that in some cases, they are above the story and in others they are below. I wonder if Google is playing with comments now.
- Damond Nollan
Google's in bed with the CIA collecting your personal data to eventually use against you.
- sofarsoShawn
I think that post is farrrrrrrr behind the ball with feedly already doing as much, however I see Greader becoming much more like friendfeed with its new social capabilities
- sofarsoShawn
Agree, it's definitely looking more like FF.
- phil baumann
@damond there are nonexistent :-) [friends grouping I mean]
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
GReader needs a My discussions that only focuses on articles I've Starred, Shared, Liked or Emailed. If someone shares an article I've already read, I don't not want it to resurface. I still say Filtering is needed as well. I may want to auto-hide certain keywords. In Peoples Shared items, I may want to filter a certain RSS feed that they like but has nothing to do with me. Basically they need a way to cut some of the noise down.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
@Dobromir You can group friends in the contact manager, and decide which groups can comment on yr shared items (odd functionality that I don't see a use for). But yr right, no way right now to group the list of "People you follow"
- Chuck Falzone
Import feeds to shared items (e.g. my own twitter feed, my own delicious bookmarks, etc.); add GReader shared item feeds as "people you follow" instead of regular subscription; overhaul public shared items page - allow folks to comment on items from right there, provide a blurb and a link instead of entire shared item; a tool to find contacts from FF/FB/Twitter who are sharing and...
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- Chuck Falzone
I dont think I COULD use any one service as a replacement for friendfeed, so the only thing google reader could do for me there would be to BECOME friendfeed. Then someone else would have to be Google Reader because, just like with facebook - I use it and friendfeed in different ways already
- Slippy "Threadsbane" Lane
Does commenting put the article back into the unread portion of the feed? I feel like the comments get lost. You need visit comment vie to see if an article received additional comments. This makes it difficult to have a conversation about the article
- Fraser Thompson
I may have missed it above but there is duplicate detection, you will see when multiple friends share the same feed item. I agree with the others on the Comment UI (hard to read, can't tell what you've already read, not sure it's scalable with separate threads on the same item, etc), and Contact management.
- LogEx
I agree with Kol on GReader. Their is potential there, however after having the FF experience it falls far short of what I've grown to expect and want when sharing and commenting on things.
- Bluesun 2600
Damond, you need to use groups if you want your followers to comment on your shares. If there are not in any group they cannot comment.
- Kol Tregaskes
LE,, does the dup detector work in the RSS feeds? And from one folder to another?
- Kol Tregaskes
I notice the dupe detection mainly when I'm viewing All Items, or the aggregate People You Follow.
- LogEx
I think that greader needs groups like here at FF. Some way for articles to share comments with those not being followed by yourself already. Making discovery easier, and discussions more dynamic.
- Bluesun 2600
Groups are there but you cannot view by group yeah. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Can you filter on GReader like we can with FF's saved searches?
- Kol Tregaskes
How about a vanity search on GReader comments?
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm reasonably optimistic... the speed of recent changes indicates to me that the @googlereader team recognizes the opportunity created by FriendFeed's uncertain future and is geared up to make improvements. I don't think it would be a FF on its own, but integrated better with some other Google services it could become quite powerful.
- LogEx
Are there any timestamps on comments?
- Kol Tregaskes
I really wish I didn't need to expand the article in Comments View to show the share/like line. Pointless.
- Kol Tregaskes
One thing I like about the Comment view is that, unlike FriendFeed, is shows more comments before and after the expand link. I wish FF would show at least 2 comments at the bottom of threads. 3 ideally.
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes GReader needs a "My Discussions" page. And real-time Comments view.
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, you should do a radio show or something and explain all of this... ;-)
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Google Reader is dreadfully slow for mr because I have 1,000+ friends.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
1. As all you guys said, the comment system is too bad: hard to read, hard to update, limited to only your friends. 2.The contents you read are based on random shared items by people you follow rather than on a theme (like ff groups do). This would make me overloaded by irrelevant information. 3. google reader is way far from real-time, e. g. for a subscription of a twitter RSS feed, the lag is significantly noticeable and timestamps in greader are wrong.
- yezi
from fftogo
They are two totally different things. I don't see how one could replace the other
- Chris Johnston
the fact that what you read is in a frame. Unlike with Friendfeed when one scrolls down the header remains {Gmail, Agenda, ...} which, for me on the netbook or even the 15" screen laptop I use leaves even less room for the news themselves.
- lelapin
open, open, open.. currently you have to be in reader to access comments, likes. etc you ONLY get your friends comments, comments don't appear in your shared feed, there is no API, and you can't embed your content (posts, groups or user summary) back on your blog/site to get a single source for comments etc.. oh yeah and the search sucks (compared to friendfeed), you can't search comments. They seem more like a quick "hack-on" instead of an integrated solution!!
- Chris Myles
We need permalinks for our notes, comments and shared items. That's about it :)
- Svartling
svartling.. sorry but I have to strongly disagree!! Yes it *looks* like they have the same functionality.. but it's the subtle differences and lack of flexibility/api that kill it for me!! Maybe if you combined reader with GFC (or Wave) and search you might start. For example.. I'm on a site and I want to see if there is already any activity (comments etc) that I can join in on.. with...
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- Chris Myles
Yes I miss the embed features too. They are really cool. The other things you are talking about I had never used.
- Svartling
Not only are they cool, they are VERY powerful!! I protyped a more flexible Google Friend Connect (GFC) clone in a half a day using post embeds (via the API) and groups.
- Chris Myles