Great decision with the acquisition Loic, hope you already know how to deal with copyrighted content over there :)
- Svetlana Gladkova
Svetlana, yes, I found a solution with copyrighted content on Google, we will turn off video upload on YouTube.
- Loic Le Meur
Loic, I hope you aren't going to turn it all off, I like some of the things over there especially the record companies who put up there content for people to listen to and enjoy!!
- Paul
Of course... everything should be filmed real-time! Even the copyrighted material... :)
- directeur
Dave are you buying Youtube too? Ah. We're competing then, we should talk to try not to make the acquisition price not go too high.
- Loic Le Meur
I offered them $82 billion, maybe I should try lowering the offer?
- Dave Winer
Let's see, I've got a dime, a penny and a piece of gum with pocket lint all over it. Can I buy a share?
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Dave, you are definitely pushing the prices too high, not good for any of us, let's agree on the right market value. I am happy to leave it to you if you do a good API I can work on.
- Loic Le Meur
FriendFeed needs a "Take a Break" button like Gmail now offers. I am f'ing powerless to resist the FriendFeed timesuck sometimes. Please, help a brother out...
A baby who wants to type on the keyboard works for me. :-)
- Robert Scoble
like time travel, you don't age when on friendfeed :)
- Pokai
@amit You have known me over 4 years now and you are just figuring out that I need to learn self control?! Your kind of logic only works for rational beings. I am an addict, an obsessive time-waster. FF gives me a non-stop flow of intriguing content with everfresh semi-synchronous discussion continually pasted to it. I can't look away. Help.
- Christopher Sacca
The solution is to find something else even more addictive ;)
- Amit Patel
I don't follow too many people on FF, but I fear that when I do, this will be me.
- mjc
Sacca, my FF activity is currently pretty much throttled by life in meatspace. A very painful condition for me, so I can't offer a solution for you but I can definitely empathize!! @Pokai - I freaking wish it would stop time so I could do FriendFeed AND everything else! :)
- Fa La La La Lindsay
This was one of the unexpected benefits of reading FF in Google Reader (via friendfork, in my case): there's no reason to check back more often than Reader crawls the feed, and you won't miss anything if you don't check in frequently enough.
- Ben Darnell
Compete says Seesmic is taking off, now the challenge is to keep this pace. Not easy but that's what we're working hard on thank you all for using Seesmic - http://siteanalytics.compete.com/seesmic...
Impressive status Loic...you're doing a fantastic job of growing Seemic (I am very happy you acquired Twhirl and have improved it so much) - Thanks!! =)
- Susan Beebe
awesome always nice to see a good service get the respect it deserves
- BCK
Bret, thanks! I won't be as cool if next month it gets flat or goes down but I like this months curve :) Rafe, well, XMPP in Twhirl is a start but they left it down for now. Nikos, we only have about 20 000 users from the alpha test phase, now we're open so it's growing.
- Loic Le Meur
Great. I would be using seesmic except it keeps crashing my browser when I record a video. :(
- Sam Guzman
Congrats Loic! Always nice to see graphs that go up and to the right
- Caleb Elston
great job loic and the twhirl team!!
- Morgan
from twhirl
Great: rooms, auto-throttling - Not so great: FF posts take up so much room, less posts are visible at the same time - Can't wait for Seesmic support!
- Garrido
from twhirl
Loic - First impressions are fantastic
- Ed Dale
from twhirl
Hey - I like it! Could you add support for opening a new tab when right clicking links? I hate how it overrides my current page!
- Zach Landes
from twhirl
I really like the new FF features. Can't wait to see Seesmic added to the mix.
- Dana Franks
from twhirl
I'm ready to say that this is the first version of Twhirl with FF that I am willing to use, actually.
- Phil G
from twhirl
Tony, Seesmic is coming in a few weeks. Morgan thanks, Garrido it is coming, Ed thanks, rambn yes auto update close it you will see, Zachary working on that, Dana me too!, Marco yes Marco rocks, Josiah thanks, Dave it is not in this one, thanks Sam, Danish and Tom
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
I am a big fan of Twhirl and it keeps getting better
- Mark Nassal
from twhirl
WOWOWOWOW ... You guys are putting your release schedule on steriods! code monkies!!! I like all the new feature improvements! keep up the good work!
- Susan Beebe
This caused me to dump alert thingy even though there are differences. Always liked Twhirl too bad it has picked up some hiccups from Twitter which is already the meme of legend in these parts...
- Mark Forman
I'm in! This will def cause me to use friend feed more.
- Evan Travers
from twhirl
This is a nice feature. Just upgraded to the new version to use this. But your blog is never unblocked by the Great Firewall here.
- Jianjun Zhang
from twhirl
Comments inline work well, but make it hard to keep a track of whats going on. I guess thats more of a FF issue tho, nested conversations are much more complex than the flat twitterlike comments.
- Steve Mactaggart
from twhirl
I guess I'm getting used to it - without doubt, it's an improvement, thnx Loic and Marco
- Garrido
from twhirl
and try the pic share feature, it takes a few seconds to do what really looks like like a short blog post, a pic, a text and a link et voila!
- Loic Le Meur
Loic, great update to twhirl, clean interface, more intuitive
- Ralph Poole
from twhirl
Nice update! Is there any shortcuts for Twhirl??
- Alex Sauceda
from twhirl
still trying to get my head around friend feed in twhirl....
- djp
from twhirl
Still not like the interface. Still not see the reason why we need a specific app for friendfeed. Some stuff could be sorted via a easy firefox extension e.g. notification.
- Benjamin Kohler
from twhirl
I'm not sure about this, but my main concern.. why does my FF feed in Twhirl look almost completely different than what I see on the web? Am I the only one seeing this?
- felix
Love the new changes - a few issues still with the commenting. It remembers the past comment when I write a new one instead of clearing the box, and it also clears out my comment box every time the feed refreshes.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Nice work! Loving the improvements!
- Lon
from twhirl
well - i´m still not sure, if I should prefer AlertThingy or Twhirl ;)
- Dieter Schwarz
from twhirl
Really digging the reduced memory usage. Before twhirl would growto over 500MB and now it's pretty steady at 150MB or so. Thanks!
- Jauder Ho
from twhirl
Twitter deactivates replies and archive tabs and API request to 10 per hour... I think I am going to hang out on Friendfeed for the time being... - http://status.twitter.com/
terra210: yeah, sorry, sometimes I get pulled into the World Wide Highschool. :-) I do track who is cool, based on their products and services. Male vs. Female geeks are tough. I try to fight that, but truth is most people I come in contact with are guys, so sometimes I fall into that trap. Thanks for the kind wishes!
- Robert Scoble
Robert. Thanks! Never knew about these guys. Looks veryinteresting.
- Lon
from twhirl
Awesome, AWESOME interview Robert. SlideRocket was the missing link to my online office suite software mix. Thanks for posting this piece.
- Frederick Johnson
Definitely looks worthy of consideration for integrating into site-good point.
- Mark Forman
check out Zoho Show 2.0. Prrrrrretty.
- john conroy
Nice interview. Robert - you get them talking, then get out of the way (as it should be). Easier said than done!
- Noah Carter
John: I'm definitely going back to Zoho. Would love to see a comparison of that to Sliderocket. Sliderocket sure has a nice interface. Going to be tough for Zoho to beat that.
- Robert Scoble
Although.. the twistage player needs a parameter to stop autoplay. Annoying.
- Phil G
finely, someone is showing of FLEX, But Powerpoint with sharepoint can do many of the stuff around keeping slides up to date and sharing data.... they just made it easy to access which is Microsoft biggest problem.
- Rif Kiamil
Not just an interesting product, but the way he handled the demo was very good.
- Jed White
Can Sliderocket import existing PPT files? I'd love to be able to bootstrap Sliderocket with the slides from my existing library of PPT slides.
- Tom Wentworth
That's amazing!! I will definitely start using it for my Medical Group presentations and break-the-mold of our boring PP slides.
- David Cook
fastcompany.tv is down, Sliderocket looks great, going to pass that on to my friend who's an organiser of top medical conferences, she hates PPT!
- Dave Pook
@Tom: From what they discussed in the interview, I believe so.
- CannonGod
@Tom: Yes it can import PPT, but no export yet. So you need a working internet connection for your presentation or their offline player (adobe air).
- Benedikt Koehler
Yeah, not only did they reduce the memory usage in their code, but they have included a new memory allocator, jemalloc, which totally kicks ass.
- Eric Florenzano
Yes and FF3 is faster since the beta version not only the RC2.
- Stéphane Guérin
The fast speed and slim memory use make it worthwhile even with the lack of support for a bunch of plugins.
- Neville Hobson
Sure and for what i've seen a lot of useful plugins already support the RC2.
- Stéphane Guérin
Lots useful yes, but not 2 that I really miss already - Google Toolbar and TinyURL Creator.
- Neville Hobson
I think a monologue usually has an intended audience. A soliloquy is usually just one talking to one's self, to wit: O, that this too permanent comment would thaw, melt, and resolve itself into a dew! Or that engines of search had not fix'd their canon against cache purge! O God! O God! How weary, stale, flat and unprofitable seem to me all the uses of this social network.
- Karim
That's all very well, but you can't expect to tell your users how to use your system - be sure that they will use it whichever way they think works for them, even if it's not how you originally intended
- Garrido
from twhirl
The moment you measure something, people will compete, just because.
- Morton Fox
It's not about followers, it's about participation. Leo Laporte has over 1000 invited friends and 1600 friends and has a low karma. Why? He Plurks about once or twice a day. Those with high karma can have a low friend count. In my mind, the karma is a brilliant way to keep loyal users. It worked for the Xbox 360 and their achievement system and I think it'll work here. It's not for everyone however, that I can agree with.
- Bwana ☠
I need only point to this plurk: http://www.plurk.com/p/1tnp to highlight the serious problems with Plurk. Plurk is like Gillmor's worst nightmare on steroids.
- Mark Trapp
The problem is that in order to raise there Karma people reply with mindless bullshit rather than anything meaningful. Hiding behind the "loves" "hates" "feels" labels totally fuels the "bullshit" fire as well. It's just one massive excuse to say absolutely nothing.
- Andrew Dobrow
Gillmor would implode if he got within 10 miles of Plurk, lol
- Bwana ☠
Plurk is definitely more social and the current crowd that I see is less techy. Very few people are pimping their blogs and new posts. I agree with a blog post that I read that said, Twitter = ego, Plurk = fun.
- Bwana ☠
You know what else grinds my gears about Plurk (while we're airing grievences :-P); the people who ask to be your friend, provide no identifiable information, and when you deny or ignore their request, they keep requesting over and over, with no recourse. I've had 3 people keep requesting to be my friend: I'm not your karma whore, back up off me plurkers!
- Mark Trapp
Plurk would be fun if there was some sort of rhyme or reason to the annoying refreshing responses. Some sort of filter.
- Andrew Dobrow
Pretty soon they will figure out that Karma is mostly driven by plurking and not adding friends Mark :)
- Bwana ☠
Forget the Karma, I could live with that. But the noise-to-signal ratio is just... there are no words.
- Andrew Dobrow
Andrew, my techniques is that I add everyone initially, if they get on my nerves, then I got my friends list and turn off timeline updates for them. I think most of the topics discussed may not be tailored for most of the Twitter crowd. Right now, it's just a giant goof off session, but I think as the community grows and "cliques" form, it'll work itself out. It's already surpassed Pownce in traffic (well, with Alexa numbers)
- Bwana ☠
It's just not worth it to me. I don't feel like it's worth my time or that it's doing anything for me. I can get the same sort of banter somewhere else in a much less annoying fashion.
- Andrew Dobrow
@Bwana but once everyone figures out plurking gives you karma, there will be "I'm eating a cheese sandwich" plurks. I know I don't always have the most interesting or thought provoking things to say, but I try not to post, just to post.
- Michelle Martinez
Paul, your comment is why I wish there were "likes" for comments. Though the services are way different, my time is better served on FF.
- Andrew Dobrow
I don't think the Karma rewards will drive people to go that far, but yes, with every point "system" there will be some who attempt to game the system. They will promptly get removed from my timeline.
- Bwana ☠
Yes that is why I like it better no goof off possible or people will hide you forever'!!
- Paul
There are far better ways to get the same sort of annoying banter and lightning-round responses. I could go to my Grandma's house for that, but at least I'd get some free food out of the deal.
- Andrew Dobrow
Plurk is like a gang-rape of the brain.
- Andrew Dobrow
I think they need to adapt. Adapt to the new crowd they have pouring in. For me, it's unusable how I want to use it.
- Andrew Dobrow
who needs to adapt? Plurk? Or the senseless dribble that you have in your timeline? :)
- Bwana ☠
Plurk needs to adapt and allow me to filter the dribble and to not get deluged with response refreshes without using the damn mobile site.
- Andrew Dobrow
Plurk is insulting to my intelligence and the UI is really problematic to say the least. EPIC FAIL!!
- Susan Beebe
So in short, you don't like the timeline view?
- Bwana ☠
No... I love the timeline view. I think it has great potential and it's unique, but there is something about it that is just so damn grating. It's the whole response thing. Something about it makes me close the tab just so my head doesn't explode. I don't need a notification for every response for everyone's messages.
- Andrew Dobrow
I believe the UI is one thing, but Plurk is about who you follow..much like other services. If the timeline is "noisy" I think you don't want to read it which means you're following people you shouldn't be. I agree the UI isn't for everyone, but the people part I think you can control.
- Bwana ☠
I don't like the fonts, the UI accessibilty and usability, I decided some years ago that i won't use any website that doesn't make few efforts to be accessible and usable. That's my choice :)
- directeur
lastnight i just sat there watching the "responses" go up and only the "popular people get all the action again with the "sheep" mentality
- Caroline
There are gems in the noise: For example, Wayne Sutton has been asking great questions that spark discussion. He's started a question of the day on Plurk which has been successful. I can't stress enough, it's about who you follow and who you show on the timeline. directeur is right, it is about choice and I respect those who hate the UI. I've done the same in the past.
- Bwana ☠
Also, let it be known that the Digg crowd has made its way to Plurk.
- Bwana ☠
What can I say, it's just not for me. It's one of those fad services. The love will pass when the noise becomes too much to bare. And then there will be the opposite problem. You'll hear pins drop.
- Andrew Dobrow
You know the exact same thing was said about Twitter. Just sayin is all :) "It's a fad site that won't last a year." We'll see :) These sites rise and fall like the wind and I'm always there to be a part of it all. I love it.
- Bwana ☠
I'm calling that six months down the road, no one gives a shit about Plurk other than die hard users. If it succeeds, all the power to them. But how it is now, is not for me. For all we know, they could have been behind http://twistori.com
- Andrew Dobrow
Bwana McCall: I myself loved twitter from the first sight, I'm not into big social interraction I confess, I'm on IRC most of the time or geeking arround with other stuff. But I liked the minimalism in twitter, It does this, this way, input output, clear, easy, it's a product finally :)
- directeur
I saw the same benefit in Twitter. It was totally text based and I know how flexible it can be. The thing I see in Plurk is not necessarily what I like, but what this upcoming generation likes. Sites like Kongregate.com thrive on the same notion that Plurk is on. The Xbox 360 took the console lead by implementing a genius achievement and gamerscore system. These kids like competition and will be loyal to it.
- Bwana ☠
Heh... I'm old fashioned (dixit John Coltrane) :)
- directeur
exactly this is an internal test release with more Friendfeed options in Twhirl I love them so far, actually you get rooms support but can't share in a room yet.
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
Great to see more developers integrationg rooms into FF apps. http://www.fftogo.com/ got support for rooms (reading/commenting/sharing) just a few days ago.
- Benjamin Golub
from fftogo
can't wait and get my mouse on the new Twhirl. A can't do without app
- Eric Sausse
from twhirl
So when can we expect this to be released to the public?
- Garrido
I just realized Twitter will be down tomorrow so it'll be easy to stay off of Twitter. Thanks for arranging that!
- Todd Jordan
Are we doing this all in our own time zones or do we synchronize to one common time zone?
- Morton Fox
No problem everyone, glad I picked a good day. Timezone is set for 12am EST.
- Andrew Dobrow
Actually, I think Bwana picked the day, so thank him!
- Andrew Dobrow
Ahh shoot... So then I have to post my final tweet at 11PM my time. Crap.
- Zach Flauaus
I like the idea of Twit-out so we should keep spreading it, if we can keep like on central "thread" for all the comments that would be awesome. Apart from that Im not sure if Im going to be around cause Im getting tired of all FF been full just of comments of how FF and Twitter could be better.
- Gadiel Rivera
Awww....come on. Do we _have_ to Twit-Out? I _just_ got it back! :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
At 12am tonight, I will start a main thread for Twit-Out related comments and improvements to Twitter, if the thread becomes too noisy I'll start another one in addition, so on and so forth.
- Andrew Dobrow
Nope Rahsheen, totally optional :-) Though the conversation will hopefully be pretty useful.
- Andrew Dobrow
Well, looks like nobody important is actually going to be twittering so I'm in. Can't wait to see how FriendFeed holds up, though
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I dunno, I think the Holocaust was a bit worse.
- Andrew Dobrow
working Wednesday. but still think twit-out is pointless if there isn't going to be twitter at all
- Noah David Simon
Is there, like, some kind of gum I can chew to get me through tomorrow? Or a patch? (a patch I can wear, not install)
- Karim
@ Karim Yeah, it's called FriendFeed :-)
- Andrew Dobrow
Yes, watch some http://www.winelibrary.tv go to your liquor store, buy what Gary tells you is good, and then sit back and relax. Er, FriendFeed. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Prepare yourselves!! *echo* http://www.bwana.org/2008... Or just go about business as usual. Just swing by FF once or twice to contribute to the convo. :)
- Bwana ☠
LOL Thanks guys. I might just make it through tomorrow after all. The worst part will be those cravings at dinnertime (to twitter about what I'm eating).
- Karim
I'll be totally interested in what you all are eating tomorrow, except using FriendFeed. It's going to be cool to see how it translates into FF.
- Andrew Dobrow
I mean, it's just gonna be really really cool just on the basis of social experimentation. Exciting.
- Andrew Dobrow
Okay, I'll update Friendfeed with what I'm eating. :)
- Morton Fox
I'm going to try to make sure that every FF thread that's discussing the event will have the word "twit-out" in it. That'll make it easy to aggregate in the search. It's been pretty interesting so far: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Bwana ☠
talk about beating a dead horse. I hate this kind of one of us kind of thing. don't make this another emom and frozen pea. twitter id dying cuz it don't work. we should be making "SAVE TWITTER" tshirts with a "free willy" logo
- Noah David Simon
I took my twitter feed off of one blog today because it was killing the page load and no one could access it. I think this speaks volumes.
- Robyn Miller
I can't go along with it. "Boycott" like "strike" has a ring to it that I don't like. There's an ugly militant-ness to it that doesn't set well with me.
- Brad McCrorey
@Brad I get that -- but I don't sense anyone of us participating is hoping this will hurt Twitter in anyway. As Andrew says, it's "tough love".
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
More importantly, we don't WANT to bring Twitter down or leave it. We love Twitter. We just want to see some changes made to the infrastructure.
- Andrew Dobrow
I suppose I'm just not the "activist" type. There are a few things about this whole thing that I either don't "get" or don't like. The point that sean reiser made about this really accomplishing very little rang very true with me as well. It seems pointless, aside from promoting the people who are promoting the strike itself.
- Brad McCrorey
There has also been a friendly debate / conversation between myself and Chris Anthony on Sean Reiser's blog, which you can see here in the comments: http://seanreiser.com/node...
- Andrew Dobrow
Yeah, I've seen that. I like it. Sean's really re-affirming my position, and giving me more reason to avoid this whole thing.
- Brad McCrorey
How does the boycott hurt Twitter. Will they make less $ that day if we don't use it. NO! It's a free service.
- Kevin Shannon
Once again, it's not about hurting Twitter at all. If the goal was to hurt them, it would be totally reverse spite, since I LOVE Twitter. All it's about is sending a community message to Twitter that something should be done for those situations, in respect to the community. At the very least, there should be a "We're working on the problem" type page, rather than just a purely dead server. It's a matter of treating the community with some respect.
- Andrew Dobrow
Sorry but I still don't really get this. First has anyone added up the real DOWN time over the past, let's say 6 months and figure out what the UP time is? My guess is more than 99%. I guess if you're on it constantly it seems worse. Years ago DirectTV made a satellite change that caused MS Ultimate TV boxes to start having problems. When I called to complain they said they were not aware of a problem. I went on a DirectTV discussion board and hundreds of people were having the same.problem.......
- Kevin Shannon
...... they never admitted the issue. Never said sorry. Never refunded any money. In fact they insisted my boxes were broken and needed to be replaced with new Tivo boxes. And I pay them $130 a month for their service.
- Kevin Shannon
Brad, my approach is as follows (see the http://mrontemp.blogspot.com/2008... URL): "I'm not under any illusion that on Thursday, May 22, all of Twitter's downtime problems will be solved and they will communicate all issues to us within seconds (instead of days). I'm more interested in this from a user interface point of view - if Twitter were to disappear, how much stuff would I be able to accomplish with FriendFeed?"
- Ontario Emperor
@Kevin Interesting. Was just about to Call DirecTv for overbilling. Hmm
- Charlie Anzman
@Kevin it depends on how much you Twitter. e.g. it's a big deal when your internet is down or your site/blog is down for an hour. Not so much if the cable tv is out, right?
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I'm all for it, moving to Pownce + FriendFeed on the date
- Garrido
from twhirl
I'm thinking that all FriendFeed needs to do is to add an always-present text box on the main page with a button that expands the function of that box to share links or images. If the box is there and a few lines tall, people will start using it like it was Twitter. Right now, no one treats FF like Twitter because the 'Share something' function seems to imply you have to share a link and not just some text.
- Akiva Moskovitz
The good thing about this is now with FriendFeed we can tansfer to Pownce or Jaiku, and not lose any touch with FriendFeed contacts. We are no longer tied to Twitter because everybody else is there.
- Chris Nixon
Akiva: They could always change the "Share something" box to "Share anything" ;-) Garrido and Chris: That's great that you guys have a plan for Twit-Out. FriendFeed integrates all of those services which makes it a perfect spot to congregate.
- Andrew Dobrow
So did Fox. They did so, amazingly, with no results being reported. Journalism rocks.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
I've got big hopes for birth state of Indiana... please don't let me down.
- Vince DeGeorge
And then Fox, ABC, CNN and MSNBC were punished for calling a winner before the polls close. This primary season is showing just how far gone Old Media is when it comes to keeping bias out of reporting. Irresponsible.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins