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O.M.G. thr's a G.I. Joe movie coming out ths summer? The Real American Hero? WOW!!! Will the fun ever stp w/ 80s toys getting feature films!
Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah and Michael Gartenberg liked this
John Kerry is an idiot: claims death of newspapers is a threat to democracy. A variant of "too big to fail." http://www.inquisitr.com/22372...
You., Allen Harkleroad, (jeff)isageek and 10 other people liked this
Great, you can see the RWI spin this. "Kerry calls for our own Pravda/Xinhua!"
- Adi
Boston is in Massachusetts. That is what politicians do.
- Bob Boynton
yeah i dont agree with that statement for sure.
- (jeff)isageek
Counterpoint: Clay Shirky "Society doesn’t need newspapers. What we need is journalism." http://www.shirky.com/weblog...
- You.
more worrying that sometimes they (politicians) are just failing to fail. Anyhow, I don't know how still today people vote (me can't vote -me is 16 only) politicians who either don't know how to get things done or either they don't want to. And I think most politicians -not to say everyone of them doesn't want and doesn't know either. #FAIL
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
from twhirl
Apple is releasing many new products, smaller, faster, cuter. But do we really need to replace our fully functioning devices?
Sachendra, Yolanda, Yuvi and 16 other people liked this
Apple faithful must follow Steve with latest signal devices!
- Susan Beebe
Apple to launch the iPhone 'nano' in time for Christmas? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...
- Sankt Nikolaus
I am still exploring the fun of my Treo. When my original I-Pod Photo 60gig finally dies, then I will upgrade. So not really.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Definitely. It's not just the hardware, it's software too, that's being 'replaced'. Exciting times :)
- Mona Nomura
Apple ain't the only one, just got a Acer Aspire One to supplement my MacBook Pro. It is smaller and cuter the MBP.
- Nick Cowie
I guess it depends on your definition of "fully functioning". My cell phone worked as a phone but did it have maps, gps, excellent web browsing?no. So it may have been functional at what *it* could do but not in the context of the ideal. Apple is closer.
- Morgan
Apparently this report might not be real ... definitely is interesting and no we don't need to replace them
- Nick O'Neill
from twhirl
Amen. I'm content with a separate mp3 device, phone, and email device. Why? 3 great tools beat mediocre all-in-one
- Andrew Feinberg
Most devices are victims of planned obsolescence. 3 year avg lifespan is built in. One day there may be a true flight to quality, but people would have to radically redefine the way they think about 'stuff'.
- Nicholas Molnar
from twhirl
their products do create envy, but that's apple--a new tempting garden of tech Eden quarterly.
- Ed Terpening
of course we don't Jeremiah, I am still using my Creative Zen Micro of 2005, 6Gb hd mp3 player and it works very well
- Luca Conti
I don't have anything from Apple. I'm immune to Jobs' mind-control rays. :)
- Morton Fox
Need? No. Do we want to? Oh yes! :D
- Alja Sulcic
size matters, as does form. it's not about just feeds and speeds any more
- Michael Gartenberg
Yes! We must replace because Steve told us to!!! (tho my MBP is starting to grow old... :-)
- Stephen Roberts
What Morton said ;) Money doesn't grow on Moneyplants.
- Yuvi
I'm looking forward to the iPhone Shuffle. It dials randomly whenever you want to make a call.
- Akiva Moskovitz
@Akiva - the iDevelop, the machine you *must* buy if you plan on developing anything on a Mac. It'll be twice the price it should be and will sell like chocolate cakes
- Yuvi
it's not about need at all, it's entirely about want. need is about broken things or a shortage, not an upgrade. thats all want.
- Jeremy Toeman
Thanks Akiva... I was wondering what it feels like to have green tea come out my nose. Now, I know.
- Yolanda
Its funny you mention that, Yuvi. I'd love to develop for the mac - Especially those iPhone apps ( i'd love to have/write a few to better administer my home network a la Remote). Having a high barrier to entry for developers is always prohibitive. With Apple now a household name, more and more applications are going to be needed for the OSX platform. Who is going to write them?
- Roberto Bonini
Apple is mentioned people go ga ga, either for or against. Heck we even have one apathetic in Mr. Fox. But let's see what the real post question is... Do we need them? Well, Mr. O, it's okay if you don't want them, it's okay if you don't like them, but leave need to the people who are in the market for [i+product name here] One note, from my fanboy side, my g4 powerbook (circa 2001) is still working fine. I didn't need a new mac, but I bought an Intel-based MacBookPro. What fine machines they both are. ;-)
- John McElhenney 2.0
The FriendFeed Drinking Game - http://www.livedigitally.com/2008...
Jason R. Hunter, anna sauce, Eric Schlissel and 37 other people liked this
Let the games begin!
- Justin Korn
I am going to be in trouble here.
- Louis Gray
Oh Christ, it's a weekday! Think of the children!
- Mark Trapp
No one ever thinks of the children. *weeps*
- B. Hatin
That is both brilliant, and humiliating.
- BISQ
No one who is on friendfeed tonight should be driving :)
- Gavin
I wish someone thought of this when I still had a babysitter!
- Michelle Martinez
You hide a Flickr entry because it's NSFW, take a drink. You see an entry from more than two weeks ago come up again, take a drink. The entry from more than two weeks ago is Eddie Murphy's huge head, chug it!
- Mike Doeff
Now that's a drinking game that everyone can "win". :-D
- David Cook
Let the game end! Please, I feel sick already. (should have replaced the beer by applejuice).
- Ton Zijp
Louis, don't give in! You and I will be the only sober ones here. ;-)
- Jesse Stay
That's really good stuff Jeremy. (takes drink for making comment #12 on this post)
- Hutch Carpenter
Jesse, I was planning on consuming a lot of Diet Coke. :-)
- Louis Gray
Louis, Pepsi all the way here - tempted to go for the hard stuff though (Mountain Dew)
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
That game would have me drunk in no time! hehehehe!
- Susan Beebe
this game is unbeatable hehe nice one :-D
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Can I play at work? :P
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
@shey of course you can! what do you think the bathroom stalls are for?!
- acedanger
I guess I should add: if your own entry hits Best of Day, chug away!
- Jeremy Toeman
I take it there are a lot of hangovers this morning if everyone played this yesterday!
- Joe Dawson
I was awake all night
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
This would be a short game.
- Pete Delucchi
Losing followers on Twitter? - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
Lova Rakotomalala, Michael Gartenberg, fbrunel and Svartling liked this
IMHO twitter works well when you are following fewer people. Best if you know all these people really well, or at least to a degree that you have interacted with them on a personal level outside the blogosphere. The whole thing about having a conversation is a fallacy. It isn't happening in twitter. Often times I felt like being in a party where other people talks and I just watch.
- Ranjith Antony
Your Followers are still following
- paul mooney
I would have to disagree with Ranjith. I think it is a case where Twitter works well for a variety of different purposes, and that those different purposes involve different patterns of use. What works for Ranjith is probably the best for most folk to start, but would not work for me.
- Patricia F. Anderson
I'm not sure why it's happening, but both of my Twitter accounts (i have 2) lost followers AND people that I'm following. One of my accounts lost ALL my followers and ALL my people I'm following. Not sure if it's based on time? The newer account is the one that lost everything...
- Melissa Chang
final count seems i've lost about 200 followers, perhaps they were spam. but also lost 50 folks i've been following as that's a number i manage. No way to rebuild except over time
- Michael Gartenberg
non-deterministic social networks are good. i for one welcome our new whale overlords.
- Edward Vielmetti
Just downloaded eReader from the iPhone App Store. 1 MB. Same application for Windows Mobile: 3 MB. Will be intresting to see if that trend holds between other apps... will have to check.
AJ Kohn and Michael Gartenberg liked this
I like TextReader and ruBooks on my jailbroken iphone more than any other ebook reader I've tried on any platform, but I'm happy eReader is available and now I can read their books on the iphone.
- Inksim
nice to know all my old ebooks will make their way to iPhone
- Michael Gartenberg
Same here Michael. Curious: how many eReader titles do you roughly "own"? I've got about 200 in the library, which is why I opted out of the Kindle.
- Kevin C. Tofel
This could be one of the apps that pushes me to get an iPhone. 400+ books at this time. =)
- Jauder Ho
iPhone App Store is now live in iTunes 7.7.
John Samuelson, Dan Shust, James Kendrick and 12 other people liked this
Left hand side between Audibooks and Radio.There's an ebook reader, Google Mobile and more!
- Steve Rubel
not yet here in Italy :)
- Federico [Kurai]
from twhirl
@Jay you can download them but there's no firmware yet.
- Steve Rubel
Federico: I can see it. But I don't have an iPod Touch or an Iphone, alas!
- Zio Bonino
...odd. iTunes update tells me that I have the current verison (7.6.2.9)
- JA Castillo
from twhirl
Zio bonino: WTF? it keeps me saying the store is unavailable...
- Federico [Kurai]
from twhirl
@Federico hai aggiornato iTunes alla 7.7? Entra nello store e cerca "App"
- Stefano Mainardi
now it's working. Ebook reader only with ebooks sold through the store? Crazy.
- Federico [Kurai]
from twhirl
Current eReader titles / libraries will work with the eReader app. I have five years worth of titles that I've used on Windows / Windows Mobile. They will ALL work with the iPhone app. ;)
- Kevin C. Tofel
I am stoked to find eReader in there. May speed up my iPhone purchase. :)
- James Kendrick
really? How you upload them? Does it read even pdf books?
- Federico [Kurai]
from twhirl
@Frederico: your library is stored on the Fictionwise server at all times, so you can just download titles you've already purchased. The app will likely have the eReader store so you can browse, buy and DL new titles. That's how it works on WinMo, so I suspect it should generally be the same.
- Kevin C. Tofel
Kevin, how do we get (existing, purchased) ebooks on to the device though? Any idea?
- John Samuelson
@John, I suspect the eReader app will let you download from your library on the Fictionwise server directly. You can do that on WinMo. I just got confirmation that we have a call with the owner of Fictionwise today so I'll have more info to share. :)
- Kevin C. Tofel
@JA Castillo I saw a Twit that said software updater may not recognize the need for the new version if you're running a beta of iTunes.
- RyanEs
@RyanEs - no beta...all the more confusing if what you say is true.
- JA Castillo
@Kevin thanks. Totally wireless eReader would be awesome.
- John Samuelson
Is the App Store only visible to those with iPhones or a Touch? I have updated to 7.7 and there is no link to the app store that I can see.
- JA Castillo
@JA - go to prefs, General, make sure Applications is ticked.
- John Samuelson
App Store hands-on, notable apps - http://feeds.engadget.com/~r...
Mark Bragg, Paul Reynolds, Michael Gartenberg and RyanEs liked this
Bit.ly launches today - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
~C4Chaos, Brian Daniel Eisenberg, Thejesh GN and 18 other people liked this
love that service already
- Alexander Kucera
from feedalizr
Congrats to Dave and the bit.ly team - really useful stuff.
- David Gutelius
The semantic analysis and geoParsing features are going to make this extremely useful
- William Reveal
from feedalizr
like it
- Thejesh GN
Which way will Twitter go? - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
Robert Banghart, Bill Anderson, Mack D. Male and 8 other people liked this
Indeed, XMPP is built to federate, so multiple identi.ca's, or for that matter, any clone speaking xmpp and supporting the twitter protocols, can be used to create a scaleable 'ring of servers' each with multiple clients. When the million people folowing scoble nee to be notified, only one message each would nead to go to the multiple servers in this ring, which then need to figure to send it to a fraction of the million users. So scaling is still important, but less so.
- Rahul Dave
Ah... that makes sense to me... hopefully they do it this way...
- Mike Wills
well put. Partnering is the best way to go (if possible)
- Harry Myhre
Drobo (second-gen) mini-review - http://feeds.engadget.com/~r...
Michael Gartenberg liked this
Nice to see drobo moving forward. The app enhancement makes this a good Infrant alternative he you get the droboshare with it.
- Eric Sinclair
from fftogo
My Lifehacker guest post on social productivity is now live. http://lifehacker.com/398049...
John Sirman, Michael Gartenberg, Thomas Hawk and 30 other people liked this
These are some great tips, Steve. I'm thinking of banning myself from using FF inside work hours (especially after lunch). There are so many things I find very interesting, and that can eat away at my working day.
- Chris Nixon
Great post Steve! Along the lines of tracking your online time: I was using Wakoopa, but it became pointless during my client application boycott. Was telling me that I was using Firefox 99% of the time, which I already knew. Check out MeeTimer: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US...
- Kevin C. Tofel
Really great post. I'm curious to see how FF will evolve into your ever-efficient workflow.
- David Weiner
thanks for the link Steve, enjoyed your article :)
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
congrats
- Fred Grott
Great post - if only I had the will power to ask the tough question...but I'm afraid the answer would be, "Stop reading and get to work!!"
- George Smith
These are really nice hacks, must be very useful when social media is part of one's job - unfortunately hardly when social media IS one's job. I am actually afraid of even attempting to track my social media activities on a calendar as I'm sure the results will be terrifying and I'll have to figure out what I will do once FriendFeed and Twitter are both down :)
- Svetlana Gladkova
Congrats Steve on the guest post on Lifehacker... neat!
- Susan Beebe
Technorati was your favorite productivity tool, why don't you mention it anymore?
- paul mooney
I agree with setting time for social media. I check FF, Twitter and Feedly with my morning coffee, lunch time and then after 5. Congrats on the post!
- Jill Howard Allen
THE NEW YORK TIMES | Google, Zen Master of the Market - http://blogs.msdn.com/megnews...
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That's a really fascinating article. As an aside, does anyone know if any of Google's competitors have a "chief economist"?
- Ian Betteridge
Few years ago I was consulting for ENI, one of the biggest energy group in the world and they used to have economists and of course a chief economist. I know in Fiat group they have economists roles too. Banks and financial services are also common employers for economists roles.
- Marcello Del Bono
A very interesting article. I think Google will be much bigger than Microsoft in a very small amount of time.
- Toby Graham
Alot of large companies have legions of economists on the payroll. Generally speaking the job is to estimate the state of the home market and pinpoint the best foreign markets. The job is brilliant because it involves sorting through data, but awful because it involves attending lots of meetings and powerpoint presentations..sorry, got a little sidetracked
- Steven Cains
Toby, Google has a LONG way to go to overtake MSFT. In FY2007, Microsoft had revenues of $51 billion, compared to Google's $16 billion, with operating income of $18 billion compared to $5 billion. The only measure by which you can put the two in the same league is column inches on blogs :)
- Ian Betteridge
In other words: Microsoft makes more in profits than Google makes in revenues.
- Ian Betteridge
Another place Google excels over MS: a far more adept Corp Comm group.
- Sprague D
Ian: Yeah, but Microsoft's been around for much longer than Google, and Google's caught up that far in this relatively short period.
- Brent Newhall
Some thoughts on the article and a pattern at the NYT: http://www.ratdiary.com/2008...
- Sprague D
Brent: Quick growth like that isn't actually as unusual as you might think. For example, Apple grew from a $1 billion business to a $10bn one in the ten years John Sculley was CEO. Google has grown to $18bn in 12 years. Google is riding a fast-growing market - but how far will online advertising expand? Will it continue to dominate that market, when there's no "lock in" (as there is in the software market)? There's too many questions to say that Microsoft will be beaten by Google any time soon.
- Ian Betteridge
Ian: Oh, certainly agreed; I don't think Google's going to beat MS's market share or earnings any time soon. Just saying that Google has grown quite far, quite fast, and if the trend continues, things will be interesting. Of course, trends rarely continue.
- Brent Newhall
I didn't see anything new in the NYT article but it confirms what I already thought - "winner takes all" on the Internet Front. I suppose the only thing, now, that can stop Google, is, perhaps, the Internet, itself, collapsing - something that's not that likely.
- Marshall Sponder
To me the key point of the article--and the most meaningful difference between MS and Google--is the former coerces to achieve its network effects while the latter co-opts. This reveals a more fundamental difference in world view: negative versus positive sum.
- lang davison
“You have to be big and bad, not just big.” time will tell if Google goes past MS profits. But the article raises an interesting question about the behavior of big companies. Hard to tell which direction Google will go, especially if the global economy darkens. Morals hold pretty well in good times; not so sure during the bad. Temptation is perennial.
- phil baumann
@ paul: I agree. The thing is that in these perilous ecomomic times we now live in, Google cannot easily consolidate like outher industries would to help them get over the worse.Google may well arrive at the point that it cannot continue as it is.
- Roberto Bonini
In all those emails subpoenaed from Microsoft, are there several stating "say, let's all apply the network effect today!"? I just have trouble believing that either company was premeditated about this network effect during their first 5 or 10 years. Its just economists analyzing it long after the fact. Microsoft is arrogance, bluster, and jumping up and down on stage. Google instead has something called "execution". Versus the 5 years Microsoft spent on Vista, for which the word is "train wreck".
- Indio Apache
Seems like a puff piece. The author has clearly not read "Linked" by Albert-László Barabási (one of the world's leading experts on network effects). On page 103 (you can read the preview on Amazon), Barabási compares Google and Microsoft. He says Google exhibits the behavior of a "fit get rich" network, in which the fittest node becomes the biggest hub. "The winner's lead is never significant, however."
- Karim
Barabási then describes a second type of network, "winner takes all," in which the fittest node grabs ALL the links (star topology), and behaves like a Bose-Einstein condensate. "And there is a network in which we cannot fail to notice one node that carries the signature of a Bose-Einstein condensate. The node is called Microsoft."
- Karim
@Karim, Steve Lohr, the writer, specializes in Google puff pieces.
- Sprague D
So, basically, you have a NYT hack job authored by a guy with a history of writing pro-Google propaganda :-) saying "Google is teh new Microsoft" on the one hand, and one of the most important scientists of the 21st Century telling you that Google and Microsoft aren't even in the same league on the other. Hmmm. Hmmm...
- Karim
How to think about identi.ca - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
Dan Brickley, Dave Martin, Bill Anderson and 12 other people liked this
Three Statistics That Lie - http://www.avc.com/a_vc...
Michael Gartenberg, Jeff (the マクダジ of FF), Michael Ryan and 8 other people liked this
MarioPaint Composer Builds Your Digital Mario Opus [Featured Download] - http://lifehacker.com/397887...
Michael Gartenberg liked this
Ah yes, this was a great game, well, it was more of a tool. Anyway, it was fun using it. Great primer for other composing apps like Noteworthy composer - http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/
- Franklin Naval
Where's our Ahab? Who will kill that whale?
Igor Poltavskiy, Joao, H Durer and 19 other people liked this
Maybe it's like the friendly whale on Nemo. It doesn't WANT to eat us. It's helping us.
- Erin @queenofspain
It will just be reborn. No point killing it.
- Kelby
They think they are providing a public service. What they don't realize is, its going to take a whole lot more than that to make me go get a life.
- Russell Holliman
I just snorted with laughter, Russell. Look how fast we throw our heroin over here instead. : )
- Chris Brogan
The fail whale has three distinct stages, Fail Beached and Dire... http://tinyurl.com/633fng
- Paul Rj Muller
from twhirl
Alright, Chris just made me do a spit take...thumping my arm, lookin' for a vein, LOL
- Cheryl Allin
Maybe while you and the rest of the team are looking for Ahab, Chris... others will recognize FriendFeed has played the part of the Wright Brothers. It's a new age.
- Louis Gray
As evidenced by this conversation, eh Louis? I used to disagree with you on this. Now I feel like you've been on to this since forever, and I'm just now catching up to it.
- Chris Brogan
The truth is, Chris, is that this isn't an either/or, although "battles" are more fun. The answer is simply, both. That Twitter has made themselves a laughingstock is frustrating, because when it does what it is supposed to, it can be very useful.
- Louis Gray
Different kind of conversation. Need to be careful with follow. Smaller voices get drowned out. Unlike @ (and I do mean @) Twitter. @ reply feature is *powerful.*
- Barbara K. Baker
It's Queequeg you want, mates!
- Michael Tefft
I wonder, though, how this whole scatter of media makes it all work? Feels like too many rabbit holes here, or maybe that's the beauty? Feels like we can go all over the place, never really catching up to all the conversations. Non?
- Chris Brogan
Chris, there's no one right answer. The power of aggregation is to have multiple conversations come in one place. The power of diversification is to have many separate conversations tailored for a specific crowd in more vertical places. The best bloggers and social media users will participate and engage where the best conversations are, and leverage search or other tools to be aware. Given the # of hours in a day is limited, how you use your time is up to you.
- Louis Gray
Begging the question, when will Summize dig into FriendFeed?
- Chris Brogan
I am seriously sick of the "what will kill X" conversations...
- Jennifer Leggio
Me too. I wasn't saying it like that. I really meant the whale graphic, not the app. I'm a Twitter nerd. What can I say?
- Chris Brogan
fwiw, twitter's back up again. shortest twitter outage ever.
- Russell Holliman
Chris - That comment wasn't directed toward you. :)
- Jennifer Leggio
Me think Robert Scoble is scared of the Great White Whale! Remember what happened last time? The Whale got his foot, and now he limps with a wooden stump. Oh Scoble where is thy Whale who swims the great vast internetz.
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
In my living room - I like television... in my car - I prefer radio. Just because I have a TV doesn't mean I don't want my radio to work in my car. Friend Feed is my TV - it's deeper, richer, requires more attention and time. Twitter is my radio - I'll sing along, drum on the wheel, but the static is getting annoying. It's time for them to up the signal. But meanwhile, FriendFeed/TV is rockin' it.
- Lucretia Pruitt
I speak whale. Aeeeeeeeeewaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhooooooooooo.
- Ryan Kuder
Ryan, well that was rude. There are women here, watch your language. :(
- Bwana ☠
Didn't Moby Dick kill Ahab and the rest of the crew (except for ol' call me Ishmael)? It's been a long time since I read it, I could be wrong.
- Kirk Kittell
Twitter top management needs improvement
- Igor Poltavskiy
nicely put!
- john conroy
Breakfast is for WINNERS!
Michael Hocter, Andrew Smith, ha3rvey (Ho)^3 and 12 other people liked this
You're all invited for breakfast at my place - I cook the damn best breakfast platter you can imagine.
- Ben Parr
Breakfast of champions.
- Morton Fox
there's no crying in breakfast!
- Cee Bee
Brunch is for the LOSERS who slept in...
- Johnny Worthington
Brunch for retired folks who laugh at you after sleeping in
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
Only losers don't eat breakfast.
- Thomas Hawk
Had to mark it as a like. I love breakfast. And don't even get me started on brunch...
- Andru Edwards
there is never a time of day when eggs, hashbrowns, bacon, sausage, biscuits and southern gravy aren't completely appropriate
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I enjoy lunpper as well.
- Hao Chen
People wrap bacon around other foods to make them taste better, yet breakfast is the only time it's socially acceptable to eat bacon by itself.
- William Beem
it's really for losers, I dislike breakfast
- Justin Yost
I'm such a winner that sometimes when my wife and kids are off doing stuff together, I go to Cafe Brazil and get me some pecan pancakes. There are few things more satisfying than pancakes that I didn't have to cook. :)
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Brinner, baby!
- l0ckergn0me
Sunday breakfast - there are few things more relaxing.
- Tom Harrison
Does coffee count as breakfast? Peets?
- Hutch Carpenter
You gotta love a Congresswoman who can talk about Google's Android and how it'll beat Apple's iPhone. - http://www.fastcompany.tv/video...
Hassan Ibraheem, Andrew Feinberg, David Thomas and 5 other people liked this
This is the first FastCompany.TV video I've ever watched. Strange since I've followed you on Twitter and FriendFeed for some time now...
- Ben Parr
Yup, I thought that was great. If I was in her district, she'd have my vote.
- Dennis E. Hamilton
Ben: so what did you think?
- Robert Scoble
This was also my first FastCompany video and I was blown away to hear a politician speak so intelligently about tech.
- Joseph Ferris
Great! - It's refreshing to know we've got a few techies running the country and people actually getting that angle some coverage.
- Ben Parr
Scobleizer, great interview. I didn't know anything about Congresswoman Zoe until I watched this video. Very geeky indeed. I wish there's more geeks in Congress.
- imabonehead
Michael, Michael Gartenberg, Kevin Johnson and 6 other people liked this
2-dimensional talks= talking w/ another and twit at same time. I'm going to get a girlfriend and try that..Good Eats is cool :)
- Pokai
Don't let it happen again.
- l0ckergn0me
this is your one get out of jail free card, don't let this happen again
- robert steburg
That's cold... Cold.
- Zach
I deserved it!
- Veronica
My wife got the exact same thing last fall
- Martin Strickfaden
don't mess with Alton Brown... and how does he feel about Iron Chef?
- Michael Gartenberg
Microsoft Officially Buys Powerset - http://blogs.msdn.com/livesea...
fbrunel, Charlie Anzman, .LAG liked that and 10 other people liked this
I've yet to be impressed by Powerset. What am I missing here? Why did MSFT pay $100 million for this? Seems like grasping at straws more than anything to me. I firmly believe the future of search lays more with companies like FF where they can eventually turn on powerful social search functionality than something like Powerset, which can't even effectively search wikipedia today.
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
Sarah Meyers video interview with Powerset CEO http://www.veoh.com/videos...
- Thomas Hawk
I just don't get how money follows things that clearly do not work. Back when Riya was supposed to be doing facial recognition technology it just simply did not work. I tested it personally. It didn't do what it was supposed to do and still VCs dumped truckloads of money into the thing on a whim. Same goes for Powerset. Their search sucks. What am I missing? Will a public co. like MSFT really pay $100 million for simply an "idea"?
- Thomas Hawk
hmmm... I have an idea!!
- Damien Franco
wtf is Powerset may i ask?
- Outsanity
Powerset search for "Thomas Hawk" http://www.powerset.com/explore... Google search for "Thomas Hawk" http://www.google.com/search... Google's results are vastly superior.
- Thomas Hawk
It's my understanding that the "big deal" with Powerset is that they use "natural language". So how come when I type "How do I clean a sensor?" into Google http://www.google.com/search... I get such better results than Powerset http://www.powerset.com/explore...
- Thomas Hawk
IIRC, www.powerset.com is a public "proof of concept" site that demonstrates powerset's semantic query capabilities, based on a couple of small datasets. It doesn't actually index the interwebs yet.
- Chris Hollander
Powerset has only indexed Wikipedia. Google indexes everything. That would explain most of the difference right there. The point of the semantic search is to (basically) help you answer something. What Google and Live do right now is more of a keyword search. I, for one, am *super* curious to see what happens when something like Powerset hooks into a full index.
- Jordan Hofker
Chris, but the "proof of concept" returns terrible search results. Maybe I'm just not getting it. Someone enlighten me. Can anyone come up with an example of better search results using Powerset vs. Google? I don't mean to be a skeptic here, but beyond the hype, why is Powerset worth $100 million?
- Thomas Hawk
hmmm... so Powerset is a enhanced Wiki search from what i see. i guess not getting Yahoo really upset Microsoft
- Outsanity
They are trying to keep up with Google and don't know how. I don't think MSFT knows what they are doing and they are going to be on the same path as Yahoo (over a longer period) if they don't watch themselves.
- Justin Korn
$100 million "leap of faith" seems like a big one to me. Smells more like desperation if you ask me.
- Thomas Hawk
100m is not a big leap of faith at all for MSFT. They've paid more for less
- Michael Gartenberg
Michael, was this a sensible purchase?
- Thomas Hawk
The reality is that we're probably 3-5 years away from a decent semantic search. Powerset did a proof-of-concept using a homogenous set of data (wikipedia) and gets so-so results. Semantic analysis today only works in very niche areas where the user will invest time to tune the engine to match the content. So, what Microsoft bought was a lab experiment. I think that, more than anything,...
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- Barry Graubart
from twhirl
$100m isn't much when you think of this purely as an R&D investment. They get dozens of engineers familiar with semantic search to work on Live Search
- Jamie
@Barry We might still be 10-30+ yrs away from Semantic search. I worked on it in 1992-93 with Professor Michael Dyer http://cs.ucla.edu/~dyer and "big" data sets of the time were 188-195 MB. See TREC-1 http://trec.nist.gov/pubs... from 2000. His 1982 Ph.D. was "In-Depth Understanding: A Computer Model of Integrated Processing for Narrative Comprehension" http://genealogy.ams.org/id...
- Mitchell Tsai
@Thomas Hawk: Why you say semantic search doesn't work? I've seen and made it work wonderfully plenty of times. The only disadvantage is the need to recognize the user more deeply than current search solutions, that means it will work well with users who are already have profiles on the system.
- Amit Morson
The internet swamped "semantic" search, and Bayesian Net statistical approaches won. See Eric Horvitz - Research Area Manager, Adaptive Systems & Interaction Group, Microsoft Research http://research.microsoft.com/%7Ehorv.... Microsoft raided UCLA and hired some of Judea Pearl's best people. http://bayes.cs.ucla.edu/jp_home... MSFT has the cash to spend $1 billion on a product launch, and chase "pie in the sky dreams". I hope they succeed.
- Mitchell Tsai
Incidentally, I got my first "F" in Professor Dyer's class. I insisted that a statistical approach would be better. About 10 years later, we had a fun chat about that... :-)
- Mitchell Tsai
This makes a LOT more sense for now (than the price offered for Yahoo). It's a good step.
- Charlie Anzman
They're drilling into the side of my office building today. The drilling is worse than what I had Saturday and that was root canal!
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is this for the new Rubel Office and Executive Wing? :)
- Allen Stern
@Allen We're bullpen style here so I have just a desk. It's not glamorous, I assure you. :-)
- Steve Rubel
any oil there ?
- Peter Dawson
I think you're just being modest, Steve :) Surely you must at least have a corner office! Sorry about the root canal.
- Bryan Person
My sympathies...similar thing going on in the building next to me, and in one down the street. Headphones and music don't completely mask the sound. It's great when you have writing deadlines, media pitches or phone conferences, eh?
- Cathryn Hrudicka
@Bryan nope. Honest. I have just a desk since moving down to Union Square with our digital team.
- Steve Rubel
@Steve: Maybe you need an agent to help you get better perks?
- Bryan Person
@Bryan I am treated well, I have my dream job. In fact, I don't take vacation because I am so addicted.
- Steve Rubel
For goodness sake, and your family too, take a vacation ;-)
- Kami Huyse
Mine too, go figure. Sounds like a tunneling device on the other side of the wall. Driving people on the phones crazy.
- Rick Bucich
when can i come in and interview you :)
- Allen Stern
@Allen anytime I am in town. You have an open invitation.
- Steve Rubel
I knew this oil exploration thing would get quickly out of hand.
- Chris Baskind
@Steve When you actually DO take a vacation, you'll realize you were nuts for not taking one earlier. Even if you have the most wonderful job in the world -- and it sounds like you do -- there's really something to be said for going for a chance of scenery and disconnecting every once in a while. Maybe Rick Murray should ORDER you to take a vacation - ha!
- Bryan Person
@Bryan Rick Murray has tried to do that unsuccessfully!
- Steve Rubel
thanks steve - will contact you soon!
- Allen Stern
So if I comment in FF then the comment doesn't appear in twitter, unless I click the checkbox below. Interesting.
- Pito Salas
Many of us pay for blogging services. How much would you pay for an ad-free and working twitter, facebook, and friendfeed per month? Me: ...
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well Facebook seems to work pretty well already and I don't mind the ads
- Michael Gartenberg
in general these are tough services to get folks to pay for, hence that ad supported model, but you know that already
- Michael Gartenberg
No I would not pay to have conversations and keep in touch with people.
- Corvida
I use AdBlockPlus on FF3 so FB is blissfully (mostly) ad-free
- Sally Church
As a blogger, the value of Twitter and FriendFeed is in having finger on the pulse of what is happening. That is valuable. If a small fee didn't scare off the people who make it what it is, I would pay.
- David Risley
I personally would pay $10-20/month, but for most people "paying" with ads on the is fully acceptable. Google has more or less proved commodity services can be "free" as in "free when paid for by ads".
- tekspectator
Jeremiah, I understand where you are coming from, however a paid version of say Twitter is only as good as everyone else having the same uptime and posting. That I have access over others doesn't work. There is no point paying for access to a service no one else is posting to because they cant get on.
- Duncan Riley
Thanks Duncan point taken
- Jeremiah Owyang
Zero.
- Steve Rubel
Not sure how much I'd pay. I like the idea of setting my own price. I pay you if and when I think your service warrants funds.
- Sally: in Florida
I agree with Duncan. A paid service would limit the network effects of a site. Without a crowd, a social network has little value.
- Michael Carter
another clone will be free, so who should pay?
- Luca Conti
I'd donate, but not pay. Not because I don't pay for services (I do), but because a fee based social network simply won't work. How would it create a "mass"? Yes, Flickr works, but photos are ASSETS.
- Claudio Cicali ♋
one good side effect is that it might raise the barrier to entry = cut out some noise. oh wait...too cynical?
- Michael Chin
@michaelchin: not cynical at all: you have to pay of 'exclusivity' in the real world, why not in cyberspace too?
- .LAG liked that
will not pay. the precedent is set, game over. would you pay for an RSS reader, customizable home page, or stock quotes? nope.
- Jeremy Toeman
$0
- Mr. Gunn
So many are getting it wrong, it's Twitter AND Friendfeed, it's not Twitter OR Friendfeed. Agree or Disagree?
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Agree!
- Evgeni Leshtanski
at the moment, yes. but that doesn't need to be the case in future
- Jamie
Yes to both currently.
- Paul W. Swansen
Of course its both... as Shel says: "New Media don't kill Old Media." Does this mean Twitter is now 'old media'
- David Phillips
Agree. Twitter for a-synchronous talk, Friendfeed for more extended discussion. For me that is:)
- Martijn Verver
from twhirl
I've been preaching that for awhile now... Use twitter as a broadcast and FF for the conversation. It's a relationship that works.
- Vince DeGeorge
absolutely agree, but I am wondering whether they are going to be the "defacto" standards.
- Rob Diana
Agree.
- John Samuelson
I hope it will be only Friendfeed soon. Doesn't anybody else get tired of all these different kind of networks? Sometimes monopoly is a good thing. Let's all head over to MSN ;-)
- Rutger Blom
from twhirl
mine is a little more extreme - friendfeed mostly & twitter rarely - i do push my ff's to twitter & i check my twitter replies & dm sometimes - i would like to get to the point where all my friends are in friendfeed and i no longer need to go to twitter at all - i used to like whales ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Agree. They are different and both ueful in different ways. I see no need to choose between them just yet. I'm using Plurk too, which is different again - very informal conversation.
- jjprojects
Disagree. Reason? Time. I don't have time for multiple services. For me, right now at least, it's FF.
- Steve Rubel
Jury is still way, way out.
- Warner Crocker
tiwtter is short and sweet.... ff is for discussions... i think they both have a niche
- c010depunkk
from twhirl
Disagree. You needn't use one to use the other. And, like Steve, I'm serviced-out.
- Chris Baskind
agreed
- Mona Nomura
You don't need one to use the other but they sure are handy to use together
- John Blanton
from twhirl
Haven't maid up my mind yet, but it seems that the different services and their approaches fill different needs. Undecided for now!
- tekspectator
Exactly! Why does it have to be "either" "or"?
- Steve
I definitely agree. It is frustrating to have people insist one is better than the other. Two totally different beasts.
- Shawn Farner
from twhirl
could not agree more. probably the best twitter, FF comment in a long time.
- Bastian
Agree! At this point, FF's comment functionality isn't good enough to replace Twitter for me. With Twhirl, it doesn't seem like tool overload to use both.
- jen robinson
from twhirl
Apart from twitter's SMS interface.. what is missing (for you) in FF? @ ?
- Kishore Balakrishnan
Its FF only. reaons against Twitter : (a) Twitter whaling to often (b) not easy to track/thread twitter replies together. FOR FF (1) FF stable (2) FF Conov enabler/agggreagator (3) I like it better :)-
- Peter Dawson
An integrated solution with both would be best. Twittering out of FriendFeed - that's my dream!
- Matthias Schwenk
Oh definitely agree. They are symbiotic beasts
- Deepak Singh
Agree absolutely, when social media tools complement, the sum become greater than the parts
- Charlie Hope
from twhirl
@ Matthias you can comment back from FF in Twitter already...
- Charlie Hope
from twhirl
and, and, and... there's Utterz, Flickr, blog, etc. etc. etc. -- so, yes. It all goes together. FriendFeed has a chance to become a hub (the way Twitter is foe me now, but more so), if it can somehow tame itself
- Doug Haslam
from twhirl
Funny how this comes to my attention now as Twitter is not updating for me, but FF is. I love how I can reply to FF via @Twhirl. That is a dynamic combintion.
- Tracy Lee Carroll
from twhirl
@Matthias I wonder if someone has created a tool that takes your own FF posts and makes a tweet from it? You'd need to turn off tweets in FF otherwise there would be a feedback loop that would eventually destroy the universe.
- Elliot Tucker
agree
- Dieter Schwarz
elliot: twitterfeed does that, put in your ff atom feed and remove your twitter feed from ff
- mike "glemak" dunn
Agree....finally somebody comes out and says it as it should be said :)
- Arjun
it's both right now - if you have group of people in Twitter then it is both - otherwise the conversation is moving more into friendfeed on a greater range of topics so for those not so tied to twitter it is twitter or friendfeed
- Riaz Kanani
Disagree. Twitter has crossed the line. It is dead to me and too much of the time it is dead to everyone.
- Dave Slusher
I kind of agree. There's too much noise on FriendFeed to have simple, conversational, exchanges.
- Bill Bittner
thanks mike
- Elliot Tucker
If Twitter doesn't get its act together, it will be FriendFeed and no Twitter. I'm revisiting FriendFeed today after a nice hiatus
- Michael Koby
from Alert Thingy
Completely agree.
- Parth Awasthi
from twhirl
This is be being real: I love Twitter, and don't get me wrong, I think FriendFeed is cool, too.. but I think Facebook will ultimately adopt the killer features of both and wipe them out.
- Shawn Farner
from twhirl
Elliot, you can try feeding your FF entries feed into Twitterfeed.com.
- Dewald Pretorius
And probably many other services we'll adopt
- Sally: in Florida
Agreed. FF, to me, is more of a reading rather than authoring experience
- Michael Lehman
Agree. Friend Feed is my Twitter extension for comments and groups
- Jon Bishop
Yep, I use both.
- Brent Newhall
Agree!
- Sarah Perez
Agree; tell me though, does Pownce = Twitter + FriendFeed [or vice-versa] or am I just being thick? Twhirl posts to Pownce for me as well, but taking Rafe Needleman's advice and not tracking multiple communities. FF good for posts too long for Twitter
- Justin Guy Souter
from twhirl
FriendFeed > Twitter for me. I feel more value when I post here first.
- Steve Isaacs
agree, and, in between Twitter and Friendfeed , many other indispensible things are included.
- Nikos Anagnostou
Agree!
- Marc Dierens
twitter for messaging, friendfeed for aggregation
- Tyler Gillies
Agree 100%
- Mike Doeff
What Mike said. AND is IMPT.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I agree. I still just wish that twitter is more stable.
- Alan Le
agree!!
- edythe
I definitely agree. FriendFeed is not a Twitter replacement.
- Jake (aka Jawee)
from twhirl
agree for now, but not forever...
- Jeremy Toeman
Both - but grudgingly. Honestly? The only reason I go to FF is because some of my Twitterpals migrated here and won't come back. Twitter is my main gal - FF is my Friday night stand-in. If I could do away with FF I would.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Twitter is too myopic to last much longer. Our online lives are a lot more complicated than 140 characters.
- David Weiner
How much time to we all have?? There are use cases for both twitter and friend feed. Some people WILL choose one or the other. There are functional aspects that i like about both. For me it is both.
- Rodney Rumford
Its neither - it's what fits your structure and how you want to connect. If you want actual conversations and build on relationpships, IMO, Plurk is good at that. FF seems too cluttered but aggregates a lot information together. Twitter is still good for me and is a great broadcast tool, some communication, and a lot of industry heads that you can learn from.
- Sonny Gill
It's becoming less and less so. I'd much rather have one service I can do it all on and FriendFeed satisfies that much better. Twitter still has things FF doesn't though so for what FF doesn't satisfy, I will continue to use Twitter for.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
I suppose I could go with the AND if FF offered a pure stream like twitter. I really don't like the threaded conversation presentation ... but maybe that's because I mostly use twirl?
- Clint
Agree *completely*!
- Kasey Sistrunk Anderson
You're almost right. I get what you're getting at. But the two are different and will grow separate paths with some common features.
- phil baumann
phil, if they do grow in separate paths, that's great! I'll continue using both! However, I will not continue to use both for the same reasons. I'm removing the duplicate effort lately and consolodating what I can over to FriendFeed, leaving the remaining effort to Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
My other concern is that Twitter just doesn't have the expertise up high to make it a successful service. You will see the FF founders frequently engaged in conversations about FF on their service. I have yet to see a single Twitter founder engage in any of the critiques or compliments about their service on Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
FF ideal for social discovery as long as folks hooking up enough of their services. I like the "noise" of FF.
- Stephen Francoeur
...and Plurk, and Facebook, and Pownce, and Jaiku, and more to come. Twitter for its simplicity and all the add-on apps and all the others for conversations or smaller groups with specific interests.
- Brenda Young
agree!
- Clay Newton
Agree! To me, it's "FriendTweed"
- David Cook
Just for you Jeremiah (Just a rough draft) http://tinyurl.com/55eof3
- David Cook
currently it's only Friendfeed cause twitter has lowered the allowed API requests. I don't use Twitter via web
- Frank Hamm
Completely agree
- Peggy Gartin
Pretty much agree.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Twitter+FriendFeed!
- Igor Poltavskiy
Agree
- Summer
Weezer - Say It Ain't So - http://edytheandhermp3s.tumblr.com/post...
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Should Friendfeed have a private messaging system like FB, Twitter, et al?
Marco Castellani, Marcos Marado, Robert Fischer and 45 other people liked this
I think so. Taking conversations private is a great way to further a business relationship. A DM on Twitter is often a much better communication method than a public posting
- Jim Duncan
from Alert Thingy
I think that would be great, I use DM frequently and would love it on FF :-)
- Maria Reyes-McDavis
from twhirl
That would be supercool.
- Brian Carter
I'll be the dissenting voice and argue that we don't need yet another walled messaging system. Is something wrong with existing systems? Why not something open and interoperable. E-mail, anyone?
- Aaron B. Hockley
Greasemonkey has a firefox script that allows you to tweet from inside ff. Here: http://internetducttape.com/2008...
- Oldengrey (Jay)
I'm all for it.
- Chris Rossini
YES
- Jeremy Toeman
Perhaps use what's already there - some kind of ad-hoc private room that exists for the duration of the conversation.
- Colin Walker
from fftogo
FriendFeed already allows you to add a google talk account, though I'm not sure what updates it shows (maybe status?). Rather than building another messaging system, what about allowing adding other IM services and having FriendFeed provide a gateway to directly contact someone on whatever their preferred service is? (Users would probably have to prioritize their accounts, and there would be some need for the reverse path to be traversed but those could be dealt with...)
- Andy Tinkham
from twhirl
Yes, so people joining my feed and I can message each other, and so we don't have to toggle back and forth between FriendFeed discussions and other socnets to send private msgs. If FriendFeed just added private messages and a profile feature, it would be really helpful and would keep people here. That may be one reason why some people don't like FF. Being able to add a photo to profile would be good, too.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I would prefer a profile where I could post e-mail and instant messaging addresses. I do not want FriendFeed to become yet another inbox to check.
- Robert Seidman
I also dont need another inbox added on top of all the others.
- Andru Edwards
Why not a profile where you can say how you want to be contacted? An internal message via FriendFeed could be one option, for those young'uns that don't use email.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I am with Andru, I don't need another inbox to keep up with.
- brian junyor
definitely don't need another inbox. something over xmpp would be lovely so that I can just route it to Google Talk
- Jamie
no featuritis pls
- Wolfgang Luenenbuerger
from twhirl
The solution is very easy. Hook up XMPP to Google Talk so we can have instant messaging. Hook up email to Gmail so we can all message each other with a robust messaging system. Please do NOT add another lame messaging service like the one that Facebook and Twitter have. Thank you!
- Robert Scoble
Definitely.
- Matthew Vaughan
I use google chatback quite heavily across my blogs, and it's great: plus, it takes your status updates from gmail, so you can choose when you'd like to interact with others - if this sort of app was on FF, I'd certainly use it
- Iain Baker
I agree with Scoble. No bacn. Give me ham via IM.
- Steve Rubel
No no no, this is open social. Not close circuit...
- Håkan Dahlström
First comes IM support, then we'll want to use to read email, then we'll be considering as a replacement for emacs...
- Kevin Johnson
NO THANK YOU...unless there's an option to turn it off.
- Mona Nomura
I agree with Scoble as well. I have completely disabled the Facebook chat and would probably to the same with FF. A connection to Google Talk is the way to go...
- Justin Korn
I think you should be able to do @ responses to Rooms only, not on main posts
- Justin
yes.
- Thomas Hawk
Oh yes, that would be great!
- Mirko
Yes, a direct message API would really help me move my fledgling Twitter app.
- Andy Murdoch
I'll join the chorus and say yes to DM to gmail, gtalk or within Twhirl. I don't always use the web interface.
- Larry Kless
Yes! Some people on FF don't connect a Twitter account or any e-mail. I rather not "comment on some random item in the feed" when sending them a message.
- Mitchell Tsai
Yes 100%
- Mike Fruchter
That would be nice, but moderated use of it is advised... say, if this is implemented along with a block feature... Plus I do not want to have sevral email boxes to check, one is already too much :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
I would like to see a messaging system - doesn't have to be private. Maybe just a Twitter like timeline on the right side of the screen would do. It would have to be separate from the rest of my feed - otherwise the time line would get thrown off.
- Frederic
Absolutely
- Christian Burns
Never missed not having one, so no
- Deepak Singh
How about a simple "E-mail this member" form? So if someone on FriendFeed wants to drop me a note AND I have not disabled the "Allow members to e-mail me," I'll receive that person's note in my (regular!) e-mail box and can choose to reply or not reply.
- Adam Lasnik
ooo... or on a related note, FriendFeed could have two e-mail addresses... one private (for us mailing stuff to our feeds) and one public (for forwarding mail to our registered address), e.g., thatadamguy-rhq4h@friendfeed.com, with the latter part being there (and changeable) to prevent FriendFeed dictionary spamming.
- Adam Lasnik
i agree with many points made here, i dont want yet-another-mail-box, please hook it up with other services in my weblife, (like you already do)
- Ruben Llibre
Yes, it should.
- Rubin Sfadj
yes please
- Marcos Marado
Have you seen Wall E? If so, how many stars (out of 5) do you give it?
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FF needs a VOTING system - 5 stars idea is IT!!
- Susan Beebe
I'd give it 4, but it's been a little over-hyped, which made me disappointed overall. It's certainly "slower" paced than some of the Pixar movies. It's a solid movie, but I expect a LOT out of Pixar now. I will give 5 stars to "Presto" - the short before the movie. It had my daughter laughing, giggling and talking about it the rest of the day.
- Vince DeGeorge
saw it opening night with the fam, 4 stars, not a classic like Nemo, Incredibles, or Cars
- djchuang
Probably falls somewhere in the 250-500 range on Flickchart for me - http://blog.flickchart.com/index...
- Nathan Chase
from fftogo
5+. woke up saying evA. it IS a nemo, cars, incredibles classic, maybe more so...
- tommy payne
Awesome graphics but sooooooooooo green. CUTE meter is off the charts.
- Tanya
4.5 stars for me.... was just wonderful
- Michael Gartenberg
4/5 - Cute Movie
- Chris Leckness
4 out of 5 - my 4 year old almost fell asleep
- Tim McGovern
It's 4/5 for kids. 5/5 for animation-loving scifi nerds like me. :)
- Madsimian
3: I fell asleep in the middle
- Sally Church
I agree with Jason. 4 / 5
- Jordan Hofker
Stars? You mean like the stars on Pownce?
- Mike Lewis
from fftogo
Just back from a theater near you. 5 stars.
- shelisrael1
I liked it but not the BEST from Pixar. I expected a lot after reading the comments here on FF. 4/5
- Satya
10 stars for the first 30 minutes.
- Ashwin Bharambe
At Shel Israel, we were at the RWC downtown theater, as were you Sunday evening.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Agree with Ashwin -- 10 stars for the first 30 minutes. Still 4.5 stars all around. Chicky friend called me a nerd for laughing that Wall-E's solar charge-up was the Mac startup sound, at which point she got called out for knowing why I laughed! ;)
- Kevin Hessel
Current Calif gas prices: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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That's nutty. It'll be $5.00 before we know it. Seen it at $3.90 tho here in SC.
- Brian Carter
still, aren't our gas prices heavily subsidized? so we still pay only a fraction of the true cost.
- sedgewick
I don't think they are subsidized here, I just think gas is heavily taxed elsewhere.
- Dave Winer
check out north hollywood recently http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- sean percival
No, US prices aren't subsidized but in Europe and elsewhere gas is much more heavily taxed.
- Ole Begemann
US gas prices are certainly not subsidized, they're taxed big time. True cost is probably half(??) of what we pay.
- Chrimmus Tad
Tad: not quite. "According to national figures from the US Department of Energy in March 2007, 52% of the cost of gasoline went to pay for crude oil, 24% for refining, 15% to taxes, and 9% for distribution and marketing. By April 2008, these costs had changed to 72.7% for crude oil, 10% for refining, 11% to taxes, and 6% for distribution and marketing." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...)
- Ole Begemann
It still makes me giggle seeing US folks complain about petrol (gas) prices. Here in the UK we're currently on £1.20 per litre (or around £4.54 per gallon). At today's £ -> $ rate, that's somewhere just over $9. Diesel is even more, at £1.35/l (or just over $10 per gallon). Actually, giggle is wrong when looking at the price of petrol, but you know what I mean ;-)
- Mat
Ten years ago I drove out of St. Louis on my way to move to Phoenix briefly and paid 89 cents per gallon of gas. If you'd have told me that we would one day be staring down $5/gallon while the gas companies rake in record quarterly profits while shrugging and saying, 'Whuh? Don't look at us! Not our fault!', I'd have laughed you right out of a Steak & Shake.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Uk fuel tax is over 70% :(
- Dave brown
Metro Atlanta is $3.99.
- Russellreno
Memphis TN is anywhere from 3.50$ to 3.89$
- John Blanton
from twhirl
I'm told the price is driven up by speculators (stock market) and that if we start drilling domestically, price will go down, again because of speculation, even though direct effects on cost would take 22 years... any thoughts on that?
- Brian Carter
Goodness! Michigan is 4.19 this weekend and it's been higher!
- Kathleen VanderVelde
Here's $5.29 in California from 3 weeks ago... (6/10/08) http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mitchell Tsai
About 7-9 yrs ago, I was driving Los Angeles to San Francisco and saw $0.99/gal gas. It was about $1.10-1.20 in Los Angeles at the time...
- Mitchell Tsai
wow, still under $4.00 here.. barely
- Michael Gartenberg
Before one complains that the oil company profits are obscene, consider who is really raking in the dollars when you buy gas in the US. Even with our relatively low levels of taxation vs Europe, Federal and state governments make more money than oil companies.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
I know speculators and war help drive up the cost of gas, and I know the poor are hurt the most, but one advantage (out of many GDP-related disadvantages) is that people are starting to rethink wasteful habits and purchases.
- Kawika Holbrook
I paid $4.38 at Costco today in Livermore. That's the cheapet in some time.
- Larry Kless
from twhirl
$7.20 in Japan. :-)
- Ray Grieselhuber
$3.60-3.80 here in Ohio. About $1 cheaper than San Francisco.
- Mitchell Tsai
$4.34 average here in Honolulu.
- Bill Sodeman
And every single day I'm seeing more small, fuel efficient cars in the parking lots. The really creepy part is there's probably is no way to fix it before heating season.
- Charlie Anzman
Around $3 here in Shanghai. Heavily subsidized by China gov't, but they recently bumped the price-cap by 20%.
- sage brennan
from twhirl
Saw $4.99 9/10@ Littlerock, CA today for premium
- LPH™ and his dog P™
I just paid $4.39 today in Anchorage, AK
- Brandon Wood
My mom told me that now in France the litre is about 2,3$US...
- Jean-François Amadei
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the only thing crazy is that people still buy, regardless of price.
- randulo
It's been interesting to watch how I've amended my driving habits and changed plans based on amount of time with engine running.
- Cathy Brooks
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2,3$ per litre mean 8,51$ per gallon...(in europe)
- Jean-François Amadei
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The Life Changing Box - http://www.lifechangingbox.com/
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what the frak is in the damn box?!?!?! this thing is driving me insane.
- Veronica
Well, having watched the animation of the box putting itself together... um... it's empty. Next question.
- Ken Sheppardson
i got a green for "bat"
- Hao Chen
apparently you can win prizes like TVs and trips. I don't know... I got frustrated.
- Veronica
and energy
- Hao Chen
sun
- Hao Chen
water
- Hao Chen
clean
- Hao Chen
i see a theme, i think.
- Hao Chen
Window!
- Hao Chen
hmmm, Aunt Edith's fruitcake from last christmas? (ducking)
- Harry Myhre
ok someone do a dictionary attack
- Hao Chen
also working: red, blue, light, tree, planet
- Veronica
Holy shit, my first thought before reading the other comments was that it might be a free energy device... Typed 'energy', it worked. Solar, power, and environment then worked too. We're getting somewhere.
- Vincent X
if this is an ad for BP I'm going to be pissed.
- Veronica
Al Gore also works. I'm not kidding.
- Leo Laporte
+1 Leo
- Hao Chen
oh my god, you're right. what the hell? however, there is no "truth" in the box.
- Veronica
somehow with all that, hippies aren't in the box.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
But Bush, Obama, Clinton, and McCain do not work. Nor does Prius or Hybrid.
- Leo Laporte
TV works. Uh oh. Film, too.
- Leo Laporte
technology gives an interesting response
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
wow, technology DID give a response I haven't seen yet...
- Veronica
I tried all the TV networks (including PBS) none of them worked - but "online video" worked
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
also TV Show is a unique response as well.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Global warming worked.
- Vincent X
Light, Tree, Ecosystem, Planet, Earth, Water, sun, solar, solar panel, recycle all work
- Phil G
It's a Segway.
- Alex Williams
future works
- Bruce Turner
play made the box dissappear for a bit.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
oh, it's gotta be a game show! so, it's an online video show about global warming/the environment / renewable resources that could possibly also be a game show. hmmm...
- Veronica
sports
- Grant
play, bat, sports - theme
- Hao Chen
If I had to guess, it's a promo hype builder for an eco-related channel. That's my prediction.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
game works
- Bruce Turner
Uh-oh. Type 'Sharp Aquos'. (someone mentioned that on Digg) It better not be a new TV. Ooooh, just found out that Sharp are developping solar power generation systems. Hmmm. http://sharp-world.com/solar/
- Vincent X
It's Schrodingers Cat
- Mike Martin
Now I'm pretty sure it's Sharp-related. http://1080pd82.ca/
- Vincent X
mlb works, sharp is the official tv of mlb
- Grant
OK I'm bored now. New meme please.
- Leo Laporte
We Green bloggers are getting all sorts of nagging pitches on this.
- Chris Baskind
lcd and high def work. definitely a new tv from sharp
- Grant
You called it, Vincent. Sharp keywords seem to do the best.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
yeah, baseball works
- Bruce Turner
as do tv and television
- Bruce Turner
HAH! I looked up domain name records, the domain name was registered by an advertising agency called Lowe Worldwide. Then did some research, and found this in a 2007 press release: "Sharp Electronics Corp. is close to shifting the global advertising account for Aquos LCD TVs to Interpublic Group of Cos.' Lowe Worldwide, New York, from independent Wieden & Kennedy, according to executives familiar with the situation."
- Vincent X
somehow I feel a little let down. my life is pretty much the same now.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
i was hoping it would be something more exciting
- Grant
Oh no, change worked...the box is going to assimilate us 8(
- Sean Dunn
Probably sponsored by obama :)
- Grant
one last word - it's funny. Pornography
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
There's a huge risk to playing this viral marketing game. Piss off the players and you're toast.
- Leo Laporte
Same here, Grant. I still have hopes though that it could be a free energy device invented by Al Gore and produced in partnership with Sharp Electronics that will change the course of history, end our dependency on non-renewable fuels, cure cancer and bring about a new golden age for humankind.
- Vincent X
I put "air" and it turned into a glowing ball. WTF?
- shaun mclane
HD and high definition give a response. Vincent X FTW, btw.
- Bruce Turner
Wow, great find Donato!
- Vincent X
I gave up and handed over my e-mail address.
- Jonathon
run made the box take off as well
- Marc Vermut
from twhirl
so each category prompts a different response...and now the fun is gone and it doesn't really reward the user
- Marc Vermut
from twhirl
Veronica, how did you find this? And isn't it amazing how quickly the community took it apart?
- Marc Vermut
from twhirl
The domain is registered to Lowe Worldwide, an agency specializing in creative development. Their clients include Saab, Unilever, Johnson & Johnson, Nokia, GMC and others. I couldn't find Apple on any of the lists so I'll throw my 2 cents and say that this is Nokia related, the iPhone 3G wannabe killer.
- Mirko
ahhh good call on the code! now we have all the words! it's gotta be for the TVs.
- Veronica
movies, music, video.. etc.. anything around media
- InsaneNinja
That was fun while it lasted. Crowd-sourcing at its best.
- Brian
http://failwhale.com/ has it's own website now, and sculptures.
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