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So I have to update this then? http://louisgray.com/graphic... - Louis Gray

Louis...yes, although I haven't gotten that far in the graphics yet :-) all the sub-services still have the old font. Soon though :-) - Duncan Riley

I should probably note as well that we may yet go back to a full wide header as well (similar to the first logo, not the last one) The new logo fonts have been tested in various layouts....some of which I'm not ready to tell you about yet, but if we go ahead, should be interesting in the scheme of things...but I can't say why yet :-) - Duncan Riley

i never got the penguin thing! something from oz? is it about beer? - sean percival

Package Wichita Palin, heh call me Package. - Rob Diana

I like Duncan's comments! LOL - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Tina Fey Palin - johnpiercy from twhirl

Strangely enough, that was almost my real name. - l0ckergn0me

lol... - Zee.

haha Carmen! - Anna Haro

Looks like a Global Warming and lots of Green Gases <duck> - Susan Beebe

haha!! ++1 Carmen - Kim

What an awkward stance... - Outsanity

I come back to my computer, all I see is the bottom of this pic underneath my iTunes window. Must start locking screen at all times when away, LOL - Jaemi Kehoe

Shrek - beercumcised! - jcunwired

I don't know what you're all talking about - i was just sharing the best beer in Romania with you guys. - Zee.

shrek! carmen ++++++1, that had me rollin'. - Admiral Anika

suck on this! - ::Kristen::

happy birthday, Mashable! - Bren -- feeling merry

Happy Birthday! - Mo Kargas

happy birthday, dude - George The Writer

Happy Birthday! - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Happy birthday - Håkan Dahlström

Happy Birthday!! :-) - Corie

i'm sorry, what? the cantina theme is running through my head right now. - Admiral Anika

it's a trap. Fall back from the deathstar! - Jim Goldstein

Damn Lasik - Uncle CW™

Do you want to play with my balls? HA GOTCHA! You thought I meant my balls down there, well you're WRONG! I'm not so sleazy after all. - Andrew Trinh from fftogo

Jim wins hahahaha brilliant. - Toby Graham

Is that a new Spore creature? - TheMacMommy

It ain't photoshop! OMG! - Majento

ET Call Home - johnpiercy from twhirl

that FONT is way tooo SMALL I can't read it! trying hard to focus! - Susan Beebe

So wickedly cool - Josh Haley

very cool <----that wasn't a caption, just a thought. :) - Zee.

MY EYES!!! - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Sloth! - Bryan Clark

The goggles! They did nothing! - Nathaniel Payne

"Hide other items like this one" (because it creeped me out!) - Daniel J. Pritchett

the better to see you with, my dear - Jeremy Toeman

+++Jim - Carlos Ayala

Other person: Your eyes are beautiful! Freak man: Here do you want them? - Carmen - Happy 2010!

"This makes my nose look smaller" - Jemm

i like it alot - Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)

I like the new Facebook. Change is possible. Yes we can! - Elliott Ng

I love the New Facebook, I've been using it since the first moment I could. Which means I'm actually using Facebook again, a major change. - Aram Zucker-Scharff from twhirl

I like it now. I didn't like it at first and kept switching back to the old one, but then I just jumped in and haven't looked back. - James Ferguson

I didn't like it at first either but it's growing on me. - Ray Grieselhuber

The new FB is a fail, IMO. A lot to like in the new design, but the overwhelming clutter of combining the news feed and wall is just way too much. Poor implementation. Also while the Apps had gotten annoying and out of control, the current placement has basically killed a small industry of app development. - Steve Isaacs

...I think the new interface is alright tho... - Andrew from twhirl

I love it. I don't get why people hate it so much. I think it's cleaner than the old FaceBook. I guess people like all the apps on the profiles, which mad them load really slow a lot of times. - Molly, New Ears :P

People don't like change and people like to complain; that is why there is so much fuss. - Arthur Guy

I love change. I love redesigns. I don't love bad, cluttered design that frustrates people. - Steve Isaacs

Because parts of it are very clunky. I like the front page because it makes it easier to comment on things. But, I hate the new profiles. They are very clunky and don't flow well. - Mathew™ one of a kind

I'm not. I don't use Facebook. :-) - Dave Winer

The AJAX tabs for the profiles work well. The 3rd party applications, however, need to be updated to take advantage of the tab system - Glenn Batuyong

@dave I couldn't sign up to facebook.. wouldn't allow me to use the name I want to use. I refuse to use my RL name, I prefer the identity I forged for myself online.. but they don't make any allowances for this :S http://www.alphaxion.com/... - alphaxion

Im with dave ... not using facebook ,, too many spammy apps and too amny pokes - johnpiercy from twhirl

Oh people, stop complaining, if you don't like it, don't use it and go away. *rolls eyes* - Molly, New Ears :P

It's easier to navigate and the social element is better than the last. I like it. This change is good. - Jonathan Kong

i don't mind it as user, but as developer it's been a total clusterfuck - Bill Seitz

I also like it. For basically all the reasons that people have already listed. - Chieze Okoye

I'll raise my hand on this one - Allie Osmar from Alert Thingy

Diana - I don't necessarily agree. The classroom has always played a large role as well. I'm 23, and computers have been a regular part of the classroom since I was in second grade. - Allie Osmar from Alert Thingy

Sorry Rob - I read you name wrong on that one. - Allie Osmar from Alert Thingy

Allie, the name problem happens all the time. Computers in the classroom are an interesting point, but I am not sure if we can really use them as an example. In the US, they are typically a function of income within a school district. - Rob Diana

Rob raises some good points. - Jeremiah Owyang

i moved there before 1980 - Dave Winer

I was using computers when I was in seventh grade and I was born in 1965. - Robert Scoble

83! Sweet nativity. :) - Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty from fftogo

+1 Rob. I was born in 1991, and there were/are no computers in my classrooms - the function of income is kinda true. - Yuvi

You young punks get off my Commodore 64! - John Craft

just a few months before 80 - Gen X & Y both - and teaching all how to be native online - Courtney Engle from twhirl

I was born around the same time as Robert. Commodore Pet's in ninth grade. Small, rural high school. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

+Robert you were the exception. The majority of your peers are still struggling with where the on-switch is. ( I can say this.. I was born in 1956.) My kids are " digital natives" and while my daughter(ne 1983) is very dialed in, my son (ne: 1986) is not leading me to believe it is more then age, economics or environment. - Lorraine Ball

I forgot to mention, I was born in 1972 and started using a RadioShack TRS-80 in 6th grade I believe. - Rob Diana

Born in 1968, and was using computers starting in late 70s, taught myself Basic ona TRS-80II w/ 8-inch floppy, blah-blah blah. that siad, i do believe in the "digital native" philospohy. PCs were only started to come into widespred use when I graduated HS in 1986. I'm not sure where to put the date on the Immoigrant divide-- maybe a little earlier than 1980- but it is a valid distinction. perhaps there is an in-between "punchcard-to-TRS-80 to Commodore 64" generation that needs to be defined. - Doug Haslam from twhirl

right-- please excuse typos. Yikes - Doug Haslam from twhirl

Immigrant. - Abbas Haider Ali

Interesting that this is similar (1980 date) to Fourth Turning's Millennial Generation - Justin Long

I'm using an dicotomy of four: dig.im+analogue values, dig.im+digital values, dig.nat+analogue values and dig.nat+digital values - Niclas Strandh from feedalizr

Ok - like, see... my *daughter* was born in 1980. She thinks she knows, you know, like everything about computers? Oh, and ok, my grandson? well, he was born in 1998 (yeah, I mean - so don't ask) and like, he has a knack for them, ok? He'll troubleshoot the broadband router and reboot the switches to make sure we stay on line. I mean, what 10 year old doesn't do that these days? I know, right? And I just just keep installing Linux hoping it'll get better, ok? But I know it's just for old timers like me. - Dan McGinn-Combs

@Dan: the know how of the technology is not what defines digital natives. They are born with it - it should work, period. The geeks are immigrants. - Niclas Strandh from feedalizr

Born 1981 here, and my high school class is definitely a mixed bag in terms of adoption. There are plenty of us who are online all the time, but just as many who aren't. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Born 1971 here and no computers in the classroom until late high school years. I was in the first classes in my small town to have early IBM machines and piloted a computer programming class, first with Basic then with Pascal. I had a faster computer at home at 8 Mhz, 12 if you pushed the "turbo" button! - Jeremy Hall

Born 1981 and didn't truly start getting into computers until 2004. I've come a long way in 4 years though! Can build a computer and am pretty proficient on particular software programs and databases. - David Cook

re: digital native, i think author has a point it's good not to be entirely digital and lose benefits of the old ways! - Jamie Lin

60's flower child born in 1968 that immediately embraced programming on my shiny TRS-80! Atari 2600 was my other toy. Had x86 architecture machines the minute they were available. Used online BBS services to conduct my research in college (not cheap - same stuff is now free online). My niece had a PC in kindergarten...so, her world is very different than mine, yet I am far more techie and web savvy than she is (asks me how to do stuff online... hehehehe!) - Susan Beebe

1971 - RAPatton

What Susan said (go flower children!), though between TRS80/Atari I delved in CPM machines for a few years. I still have my first 110 baud acoustic coupler modem. Taught myself assembler language programming at 17. I was hooked on computing and [analog] networking in 1976 when I was able to research colleges over dialup to mainframe computer. Still here. - jcunwired

Digital generation has nothing to do with age, it has all to do with attitude. - Bora Zivkovic

I was using computers when I was nine and played video games at least 3 years before that. I consider myself to be a digital native. Was born in 1971. - Alex Scoble

Born in '79. Was part of the Eagle Program in NY in elementary, which gave my broke ass access to an Apple IIe and the LogoWriter programming language. Moved to GA and got into the Magnet program, which meant I had a computer on my desk for 6th/7th grade. By this time, grandma got me a 286 for xmas. I taught myself assembler/machine code/pascal/basica/qbasic...whatever I could get my hands on. C was like the holy grail. Then came Linux...all written in C and all free as in beer. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Just so happens that mom, born in 60, got a degree in computers of some sort, so that probably had a major affect on my access to computers. Good for her because I helped her pass C++ when she went back to get her second degree. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

I think this claim is a tad premature considering not all 80's students had access to computers. Now those born in the 90's thats another story. It is a thought provoking concept. Having been born in 1970 I have been working with computers for ALONG time. There aren't many people born after 1970 who will admit to programming FORTRAN with punch cards and working with other archaic computers. I revel in being an old timer but I still don't consider myself one. - Jim Goldstein

i think i'd push that back by half a decade. i'd say 1975 and later. i had a commodore vic-20 at home. my school had commodore pet and apple II terminals. i remember how big a deal it was when the apple IIe came out and we got them. and we all drooled big time over my friend's commodore 64 (with a 5.5" floppy drive even!) - tiffany

born in '72, computer in the house since '83, been online (BBS) since '86 prodigy in '88. we had 3 computers in our classrooms when i was in 3rd grand in KC. moved to the burbs of los angeles in '81 and have always had computers either in the classroom or in a room at the school. husband was born in '70 came to the US from romania in '80, he's always had computers since he's lived in this country. - Admiral Anika

1961 - MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS

1986. Heck yes, I'm a "digital native." - Andy DeSoto

It's a nice story isn't it. - Duncan Riley

Yup...the power of the human spirit... :) - Anna Haro

love has no limits :D - A.T.

Oh...trying...not...to...click...doh my curiosity gets the best of me again <click> - Mark Krynsky

lol - Cee Bee

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - Anna Haro

I'd be so pissed if that were my car!!! - Anna Haro

0_0 - Mo Kargas

imagine having to clean it afterwards :-) - Duncan Riley

@Duncan...OH HELL NO! - Anna Haro

Wax on, whacks off.... - abacab

LOL @abacab - Anna Haro

That's when living in SF comes in handy... Crack fiends clean cars for a dollar. :D - Mona Nomura

+1 abacab - Duncan Riley

I bet he wishes he had a Hummer ! - sergiooo

I think it's the other way around - the world is lagging behind tech bloggers :) - imabonehead

actually, he said "out of touch" rather than behind. Early adppters are often the only adopters, picking up interested enthusiasts along the way during each cycle. - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

i agree with @imabonehead, world lags behind us tech bloggers - Arjun

Amen, amen, amen. AOL never went anywhere; its walled garden didn't crumble; many still use it; it has every teenager in the known universe on its AIM; you need to pay attention. The Lindens actually weren't stupid bringing in the former AOL architecture guy to scale SL which is now at 67,000 concurrency. - Prokofy Neva

So you're _sure_ they were not running a private release of Android On Line for Desktop? Maybe they're way ahead of us. - Micah Wittman from twhirl

My dad still uses AOL, just because he doesn't want to change his e-mail address and risk people not being able to find him from the past. It's too bad there's not a better option for him. - Jesse Stay

It's used more than gmail. - Andrew Warner

Most of my friends and acquaintances use AOL mail, MySpace and sometimes Facebook if they are younger. Another just got made redundant from a hi-tech pharma company and sent me her new contact details... an AOL email address. - Sally Church

Sometimes it's true. The thing is, I actually know very few people who use AOL accounts or even have an AOL service (outside of AIM). However, I do know someone who has an AIM mail account (which pretty much is an AOL mail account). @Prokofy Neva: AOL is crumbling. Why do you think TimeWarner wants to get rid of it so much? - Ivan from twhirl

show him friendfeed robert and lets hear the reaction - johnpiercy

I still have an AOL account. I was all ready to dump it when AOL went free. I use it to receive commercial email and other stuff I'm usually too lazy to delete myself. It integrates well into Thunderbird or Outlook, so I don't even notice it. - Steve Lowe

what's AOL? - Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)

what's mail? - @baratunde from twhirl

Which brings us to an intersting question, or two. what would happen if AOL completely revamped its service with somthing to make us drool? Or it tinergrated with the iPhone/iTouch email? Or wrote a kiiler iPhone app that leveraged its huge user base? - Roberto Bonini

you'll be equally surprised if he uses Zenbe too. two of my college roommates are still using windows 2000 - ellaconic from twhirl

i use aol mail and have since 1993 - because i want to understand what the average internet user uses - that's just one of the things that makes CN different. - Allen Stern

You're different because you try to be average? - Jason Carreira

I also like the fact that the easy headline pun was /not/ used. - Michael W. May

Better question Louis ... Is it on TechMeMe yet :) - Charlie Anzman

You dared and we liked. :D It looks like a super-positive site. - Helen Sventitsky

Gays.com loves the Inquisitr! - gaysdotcom

@Charlie: It's not on TechMeme yet. Not quite sure how they select articles. - gaysdotcom

Well, see, TechCrunch has to cover it, and preferrably first... ;) - Cyndy

Cyndy, funny you should mention TC, I was thinking Gabe and Michael could connect :-) - Duncan Riley

I think it's a bit late for that, no? - Cyndy

lol now gaysdotcom is following me, I think they misinterpreted my like - Dobromir Hadzhiev

@Dobromir - we follow lots of techy/geek-minded folks. Don't misinterpret our following you =) - gaysdotcom

late night humor is alive and well on FF! - Susan Beebe

that is really gay - Noah David Simon

actually happy to see minimal hating here, imagine this thread on something like youtube - sean percival

I wouldn't say minimal, sean, I'd say no hate at all. I followed gaysdotcom back, of course. - Louis Gray

Neat. They actually provide a way to publish your gays.com status updates to Friendfeed. - Morton Fox

Perhaps we're less threatening online than in person for some. Tolerance levels vary with the degree of separation. Online, homosexuality is theoretical and academic. It's easier to discuss and even accept impersonally. Now, if I were sitting on the couch next to you with my hand dangerously close to your knee? - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)

http://gawker.com/5050227... is this what your network is like? - Noah David Simon

I found it much easier to overcome my concerns about gay people after I met and knew quite a few gay folks. Same thing with Mormons and Muslims. A lot harder to hate a group of people once you know some... - Tad

What were those "concerns," exactly? I actually find it harder to hate a group of people that I know nothing about since I don't have a legitimate personal reason. But hey, that's just me. - ::Kristen::

+1 Tad - It's easier to hate individual people one you know some (insert any minority group here, particularly those subject to animosity and ridicule from the majority), but makes it much harder to stereotype. It was so much simpler being a white man in the '50's. - cjmart

Just Kidding!!! - cjmart

I grew up in the South Kristen... we're crazy about stereotyping. - Tad

I wasn't being snarky, I swear. I was just curious. I'm from New England but now live in Florida, so I've seen the differences. Kind of sad in my opinion, but people can only go by what they've always known. In my case, I've had gay friends for years and was actually the minority in my high school, so I've been surrounded by all different kinds of people for my entire life. I hope you didn't take that the wrong way. :) - ::Kristen::