Does your culture/ethnicity/race play a large role in your identity?
How could it not? - Jason Toney
A large role? Sure. A few other things play a larger role, though. - Michael R. Bernstein
Well, sort of intrigued by my Czech heritage (I´m Norwegian). Does that count ? - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
for me it does my mother has always been very proud of her mexican background and passed that on to my brother and i, more than that tho i think my interests and studies have played a larger role in my identity but as my mother says in my blood will always flow mexico lindo y querido - Cardeen Risen
As an Afr-Am in America, I think I'm probably consumed with the thought of race. Not in a bad way, but when...say, people run for president, all of a sudden you find out things about friends and co-workers that never make their presence felt otherwise. - Derrick
my culture does. my ethnicity doesn't - Cee Bee
My identity is influenced by my environment and race :) - عندلیبان
Absolutely. Although my location/environment has an equally large role. - Anika Palm
I get all fuzzy inside talking like this, Derrick. I´ve never experienced this on another SocNet, it feels so real being able to have conversations like this versus only linking to stuff you hope won´t offend anybody. I love all the colours of FF ! Right. Getting my act back together. Hiding cognac glass. Back on topic.. - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
Hehe, thanks, Thomas! I find myself fascinated with people, so I tend to post stuff to get people talking. That's the point of social media, no? Love ya, bro. - Derrick
Ethnicity and race - no. Culture? I don't see how one's culture couldn't have a role in identity. - Sparky, lurking
I'm going with Anika's response. - Rodfather
Smart. Likewise D :) Although I must say, I tend to make myself more like a pale stiff Norwegian than I usually am when I´m on international sites (unless I´m on cognac..). Mostly for making jabs at my self as a representative of Norway, and perhaps b/c of low self-esteem for being a lowly peasant versus you metropolitan guys:) But pure race is never interesting. - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
Yes, I think that my ethnicity (or lack of) and race have an influence on my identity. Since I am a plain ol' caucasian mixing pot I don't really have a group to identify with, so I miss the benefits of the support network that I see people with more obvious ethnicity seeming to have (like my Asian friends and Black friends). And yes, my Deep South heritage/culture has played a big role in my identity, though not as much since I moved away, the roots are still there. - Lindsay
It's telling here in the States, I think. I studied African-American literature in college and I was always of the mind that why isn't Afr-Am literature just American literature? Why must it be segregated academically? I also think that people of color in America have no choice but to think about in the greater context of what it means to be an American, their "otherness" of being a minority. - Derrick
Minorities will always be mindful of their "otherness" I guess (in a small sense like I´m the peasantly Norwegian amongst you guys). I know the struggles of the native inhabitants of Northern Norway too (I forget the word in English for this). But what I would like to comment is that I too, from the outside of the US, always thought "Black History Month" and the suspicious hipness of supporting Obama was a strange way of saying we are one. But in the end it´s great that you got more change than was worded. - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
Thomas, peasant Norwegians are my favorite! I've only lived in America and sadly, there's a lot of work to be done with regards to race relations, but I'm optimistic, and have always enjoyed my abundance of widely diverse friends. - Derrick
Are you suggesting I should get off the cognac, Mark ? ;) And while I´m hot on the subject, what is it with the always 2 white + 1 black couples in your sitcoms ? Or all black sitcoms ? Never interracial couples ? Odd. Although, truth be told, I have seen some great shows making fun of just this. (Btw is black/white the correct term? "Afr-Am" etc. makes it much less readable, that´s all) - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
No - Morton Fox
What I love about this thread? How Thomas's participation is forcing me to think about the larger implications of culture/ethnicity *outside* of America and what it means in other parts of the world. - Derrick
Geek culture certainly does! I'm a white girl who's happy to finally be living in an area with lots of cultural and ethnic diversity. I get to experience new foods and traditions by learning from others. I love surprising Spanish-speakers when they find out this gringa is fluent. I can't relate to feelings of "otherness" or minority except as a woman and I don't find the disparity to be full of hatred. - Sally - Skyrimmin' It
The Jeffersons was also, what 30 years ago? - Derrick
Of course! I'm a Viking Throwback and proud of it! - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
@Mark VandenBerg We need to make a good Hot Pocket first. Once that's done we'll all be 1 step closer to enlightenment! - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
First three interesting things of note to my self about this topic: 1: My outside image of US culture is skewed as suspected, it´s always the perceived most different things which gets noted, and 2: Language is a part of culture, me not getting Mark´s lemonade joke could have led to all kinds of misunderstandings (especially with even more cognac inside...), and 3: Sally´s "geek culture" is actually another culture which perhaps ties us FF-ers together (picture a Venn-diagram) :) - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
Externally for me I'd say no. Nobody ever suspects me to be anything other than your standard caucasian when looking at me and my last name of Krynsky. The fact is that I'm a first generation American whose parents were both from Argentina. I also lived there for a few years when I was younger and am fluent in Spanish. I'm never mistaken for being Latin even though I am. It's actually worked to my advantage often. Internally I feel a Latin sense of pride even though I was born in Chicago. - Mark Krynsky
Mark, I find that so interesting about places like Argentina. You can't assume that one's last name is the end all and be all with regards to one's ethnicity. A friend grew up in Buenos Aires, and he's the blondest blue-eyed dude you'd ever seen in your life, and to boot, he's of Italian descent. Book. Cover. Don't judge. - Derrick
no but the fact that I'm fabulous does!!! :) - BEX
It´s because I´m Norwegian isn´t it, Mark V ! Blaming me with your fancy Dutch surname and all ;) - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
Honestly, I've got to get to Europe. I've always been fascinated with Scandinavia. It started with Bjork. ;^) - Derrick
Reykjavik on Iceland is crazy! You would love it. At least it was before the economy collapsed. Talk about the nordic drinking culture... sheesh.. They win. But in Europe the Nordic are known for our terrible drinking culture whilst visiting the rest of Europe. Unfortunately a stereotype which actually is true, but the young people tend to be more "continental" in their ways. A good thing from international communication and the intarwebs I guess. - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
Americanism: enjoy your ethnicity and religion, but don't bug others in an aggressive, obnoxious or divisive way about your ethnic and religious issues. Most Americans are "mutts," as Barack Obama nicely put it. We are complex combinations and permutations of various ethnicities and religions. - Sean McBride
No - David Cook
My "culture," American culture, embraces all ethnic groups and religions. My culture plays a huge role in my identity. - Sean McBride
@sean mcbride we live in the same America?? - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Tutivillus -- do you feel comfortable in Cambridge, Manhattan, San Francisco, etc.? I don't know if we live in the same America -- you tell me. If I were to point to the quintessential American institution, it would be MIT -- pure meritocracy. - Sean McBride
Yeah. I do feel comfy pretty much anywhere. But I have many friends of different ethnicities that don't. (e.g. hang out with some Navajo and Hopi folk in AZ. Once you hear the term TROG thrown a few times you'll see what I's tragic) - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
@spidra webster I remember watching Blazing Saddles unedited on TV. Now? I think last time I saw it on TV it was about 42 minutes long. - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
no, not really - Duncan Riley
Derrick, Argentinians generally have a European look, but I can't ever tell if someone is from there simply by their appearance, however if they start to talk in spanish they have a very distinct accent and it's usually pretty easy at that point. In my case my Grandfather escaped Poland with his brother when the nazi's came in. Their other 6 brothers and sisters weren't so lucky. He ended up in Argentina and that's how I got my last name. - Mark Krynsky
I'm starting to see a trend here among the folks who are answering 'no' (at least those whose avatar is a headshot of some kind). - Michael R. Bernstein
Can you spot the trend too? - Michael R. Bernstein
Michael: People of color say yes; white folks say no? - Derrick
Not really. - Steven Perez
I'm white and I said yes... I think not being a part of a minority leaves me with a lack of ethnic identity and that has had an influence on my life for sure. I would be a different person had I been born with a non-caucasian ethnicity. I would also be a much different person had I been brought up anywhere else but Mississippi with the cultural identity there. - Lindsay
Derrick, no that's too harsh and untrue (as Lindsay pointed out). However, just about everyone who said no (and has a headshot) does seem to be white. It's a matter of privilege when you're a member of the majority that is largely represented in the media as the 'default' and can afford not to think about your own ethnicity. - Michael R. Bernstein
I try to minimize it. I know that I'm black, but I hate for people to think that I do or don't do any particular things just *because* I'm black. - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Michael, I meant that with tongue firmly planted in cheek, but things did seem to skew that way. I think Lindsay's experience mirrors a lot of people's experience especially those who grew up in the South, where as obvious an issue as race can be there, the issue of class is also something to consider. Hi Lindsay! :) - Derrick
It is a significant part of my identity. - Egyirba