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who's on today?
- Kevin Marks
you are
- Steve Gillmor
kevin ... steve ... + ? ...
- Xenophrenia
just me?
- Kevin Marks
.Oscon takeaway, the boom's about Big Data.
- clive boulton
Me.
- Robert Scoble
Tina - can't find Gillmor Gang on Ustream for iPad - used to work fine with the iPhone version
- Ankush Narula
hmm... need to work on that later. need to start the show.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
k
- Ankush Narula
:)
- Christian Burns
Danny's mic is hot
- Jerome Hughes
getting some packet loss here, I may need to switch to my 4g
- Kevin Marks
that's good Robert
- Tina Chase Gillmor
well ... overlap with TWiL ... missed the start .. hmm
- Xenophrenia
I created a filter for gmail that autoarchives notifications or comments on g+
- Christian Burns
Hey Forget about Twil ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
G+ circles making FB design antique
- clive boulton
This is a beta being tested out on the public
- Xenophrenia
Just catch twil later, this is realtime folks
- Christian Burns
they need to test it at scale
- Kevin Marks
a brilliant comment Christian!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
TWiT shows are where I started (actually TechTV is where but... ) ... didn't discover this til later ;-) ... I have an interest in the legal issues with tech
- Xenophrenia
Tina chucklin'! :D
- Jerome Hughes
Joe Hewitt talking to MG over on TechCrunchTV
- Ankush Narula
Its called failing better than facebook.
- Christian Burns
Denise Howell is very smart...
- Kevin Marks
Loren said that about the squid
- Christian Burns
how about Places, Moe?
- Kevin Marks
Mute this gif
- Christian Burns
I love Denise...really I do1
- Tina Chase Gillmor
perhaps it could be both
- Jerome Hughes
with different views once that's more possible
- Jerome Hughes
Community is building with chrome plugins
- Christian Burns
This is so much more about profiles and identity... the activity stream and comment systems are a byproduct
- Jerry Schuman
Google can adopt the best features later
- Christian Burns
Google needs to accelerate personas combined with trust network validations
- Jerry Schuman
yep Jerry
- Christian Burns
Jerry - those just rollin' still get to breathe exhaust
- Jerome Hughes
yes
- Xenophrenia
Steve, bringing it back,
- Christian Burns
and then what happened?
- Jerome Hughes
2 much G+ noise like corp email CC
- clive boulton
Google can address one of the biggest stumbling blocks today.. DISCOVERY, especially when it comes to how I can be contacted.. via a circle, via a VoIP call, via a Hangout etc etc etc. Combine webfinger with profiles and you're talking the directory of all directories.
- Jerry Schuman
Its still a mystery to me, few of my contacts use it and so it remains idle.
- Arnie Klaus
g+ is here to stay
- Christian Burns
cross posting sucks
- Xenophrenia
I would like to crosspost to facebook
- Christian Burns
I stop following people who do that - I'll follow your Twitter feed if I want to see you Twitter feed ;-)
- Xenophrenia
this is a great example of how I want to see a message... the message routing should be recipient determined.. not what the hell service I'm logged into.
- Jerry Schuman
Cross posting *everything* sucks, but cross posting *some* content across many networks can be useful.
- Chris Bray
Facebook killed our family blogging, g+ is going to bring it back
- Christian Burns
cross posting should be earned ?
- Jerome Hughes
Apple-Twitter all the media and best personal tools.
- Arnie Klaus
Cross post photos
- Christian Burns
Chris: exactly, and copying and pasting doesn't take long.
- Robert Scoble
yes - it depends on how and where ... but many who do that only post in one place and forward it to everyone else
- Xenophrenia
I understand *why* they do it ... but just because you can doesn't mean you should ;-)
- Xenophrenia
I copy and pasted my blog post in, but the lost links made it less useful
- Kevin Marks
I tend to use #fb on the end of a Tweet to cross post to Facebook, #li to post to LinkedIn, I'd use #gp to cross post to Google+, but I use them sparingly and only when applicable.
- Chris Bray
solution... be a better noise processor
- Jerome Hughes
our 8 year old family blog has been silent for 2 years
- Christian Burns
Tumblr's got blogging dialed right in
- clive boulton
Ping is still a sleeping giant.
- Arnie Klaus
Posterous is how we do photos
- Christian Burns
LOL
- Jerome Hughes
Kevin has mad self mute skills
- Christian Burns
Kevin, nice headset and noise reducer. Brand?
- Arnie Klaus
suddenly I'm surrounded by lunch people. oops
- Kevin Marks
skillz!
- Jerome Hughes
Posterous seems to do pictures best, overall prefer Tumblr's edge
- clive boulton
Moe... iOS5 *tw integration to the rescue
- Jerome Hughes
It's a Sony headset, with active noise supression.
- Kevin Marks
I have Danny in a circle called "flame bait"
- Jerry Schuman
kevin -- people found you. there are no private corners!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google+ shows there still is room for someone else can get into the game.
- Arnie Klaus
gmail was a beta until they had it replicated across data centres
- Kevin Marks
g+ is whats happening now
- Christian Burns
the keynote just ended, and the 1000 or so left are snacking
- Kevin Marks
did you see MSFT's attack video on gmail?
- Kevin Marks
food rules
- Tina Chase Gillmor
google corp does need to learn, Danny pushback helps make that happen
- Christian Burns
Kevin, MSFT's 'GMail Man' is cringeworthy isn't it!
- Chris Bray
like with Apple - it's a religious type of thing ... people get a little crazy when they nearly worship something - Apple inspires religious experience according to science ;-)
- Xenophrenia
I wish Scoble hade a circle for posting to non noisy commentors.
- Christian Burns
Apple religion will launch ping
- Arnie Klaus
GMail Man is FUD ... scaring people for profit ...
- Xenophrenia
Scoble, do you read every comment?
- Christian Burns
I try. But I do fail.
- Robert Scoble
Like Leo said on Windows Weekly to Paul Thurrott - it's really no different than spell check only using it for different purposes ;-)
- Xenophrenia
totally understandable
- Christian Burns
I miss OSCON.. needs to come back to San Diego
- Jerry Schuman
I dont comment on a scoble posts because It feels like I wont connect, just add to the noise
- Christian Burns
call me back
- Kevin Marks
g+ embedded Peter Norvig direct report Ed Chi for HCI analysis / noise control etc
- clive boulton
I love the nearby stream for g+
- Christian Burns
node,js getting a lot of attention too
- Kevin Marks
Christian: when I'm posting I'm almost always reading every comment, even when they come hot and heavy. But after say 30 minutes the chances I see it go down.
- Robert Scoble
Good to know, I also dont post unless I have something to add :)
- Christian Burns
Dont comment I mean :)
- Christian Burns
a bug?
- Kevin Marks
So the people who think before they type are the ones you don't read ;)
- fuzzyscorpio
@robert i found a complicated way to share a circle with people who are part of the circle.
- Abhijeet Desai
anyone going to the TechCrunch party later today?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
yes, flying back for the TC party tonight
- Kevin Marks
Cant go, Need to take care our our goats.
- Christian Burns
August Capital, tho' I think it's sold out
- Kevin Marks
send them a huddle message . when u c the participants of the circle . @ the end u c an add to circle option so u can add all those people in the huddle to a circle,
- Abhijeet Desai
see you later then Kevin. Maybe a drink together
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Christian - Goats sound like more fun!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I search for Rackspace and I see that Robert and Ben Fisher +1'd the site
- Jerry Schuman
Interestingly that same "xxx Shared This" also seems to hook into my Twitter feed somehow since it identified a share from a contact that's not on Google+ yet...
- Chris Bray
ya even i saw that
- Abhijeet Desai
I get HD net from Mark Cuban and Virgin inflight from Porter Gale when I search for movies
- Kevin Marks
So if lady gaga will +1 a page on google, would up the ranking for the little monsters?
- Christian Burns
probably separate DBs at the moment
- Kevin Marks
yes, christian
- Kevin Marks
they are working on it is what google said
- Abhijeet Desai
It'll be interesting to see how the fact that my Google+ and Twitter social graph is very different to my Facebook social graph (mainly tech/work rather than family/friends) affect these result promotions.
- Chris Bray
yes, social search is part of this
- Kevin Marks
lost you Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
crazy to be able to have these meaty commentaries and conversations but unable to retrieve any of it
- fuzzyscorpio
you're back!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
interesting.. http://blog.superfeedr.com/meta...
- Jerry Schuman
It’s a Chrome application that will silently build a small firehose of all the web services that you use online. It will show you some of these messages as HTML5 notifications.
- Jerry Schuman
Got to make lunch for the kids, see ya
- Christian Burns
there's now a right-wing plan to report Barack Obama for spamming twitter
- Kevin Marks
I actually think almost everyone now has "heard" of twitter, even if they don't use it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I can guarantee that my mother knows about both Twitter and Google+. Primarily because I'm her son and we're connected on FB and she's actively involved in politics. She's also 72
- Jerry Schuman
(mental image of Kool-Aid guy with a Facebook tattoo breaking through a firewall)
- Ankush Narula
Can someone explain the difference between search and track?
- Ankush Narula
twitter is now fail-whaling for me. did Obama DDOS it?
- Kevin Marks
Get rid of Xeni and you'll cut down on the cat photos ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
ya we need search for google plus
- Abhijeet Desai
Abhijeet: Sparks might eventually be that
- Ankush Narula
it's bloggy :)
- fuzzyscorpio
Anybody found a really good use for Sparks yet?
- Ginger Zumaeta
ankush... track was realtime push, search is just behind pull
- Jerome Hughes
may be but sparks is more like google news
- Abhijeet Desai
But sparks isn't nearly as good as google news - wish it was
- Ginger Zumaeta
i doubt it will fail but they may plan to buy twitter anyways !!
- Abhijeet Desai
sparks is a placeholder at the moment - I think we're going to see something really cool there that uses search algorithms and filters based on your social interactions/profile
- Ankush Narula
Nice Steve Gillmor gave Amy Winehouse props
- clive boulton
one of my friends at Google who codes for Apple just quit to build his own iOS apps
- Kevin Marks
Google should look outside and hire contractors that can kick ass with iOS.
- Alex de Soto
LOL robert
- Abhijeet Desai
Big companies create their own silos
- Arnie Klaus
Google has 10 iPhone apps - I don't understand what Steve is alluding to
- Ankush Narula
Big G running a torrent of Android Hack-a-thons 3rd and 4th qtr
- clive boulton
Steve has been playing Amy Winehouse at home all week
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the primary users of plus in its limited trial is alpha-geeks. I believe there is a general perception that IOS isn't for alpha geeks... that's Androids domain
- Jerry Schuman
Google got burnt by Apple holding up apps before; I bet Vic is still grumpy about that
- Kevin Marks
right Jerry
- fuzzyscorpio
@Kevin that too
- fuzzyscorpio
Tina, great, he was not alone.
- clive boulton
the Google+ app on android is not specially tuned for the android tablet either.
- Kevin Marks
the politics of dancing
- Jerry Schuman
Rapid adaptive social tool design
- Arnie Klaus
Jerry: most alpha geeks I know use iPhones. Android has that peception, yes, but only 20% of the Where 2.0 attendees had ANdroid. Everyone else had iPhones.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I totally agree with you. It's also my experience but I can only imagine the discussion among product management on Google regarding platform priority.
- Jerry Schuman
@Robert that's nice to hear.
- fuzzyscorpio
(I am an iDufus :))
- fuzzyscorpio
I'm currently using an HTC Inspire and curse it daily
- Jerry Schuman
Noise: Betas are so 90s. I'm using Mac OS X Lion $29 "non-beta" now. Issues crop up daily but friendly geeks share their workarounds while we wait for an update from Apple.
- Alex de Soto
not very well defined noise
- Jerome Hughes
Steve - in the meantime use Boxcar for notifications (http://boxcar.io)
- Ankush Narula
hangout isn't on android either yet
- Kevin Marks
they never get surfaced... that is a badly flawed part of Circles
- Jerry Schuman
Right on the money Steve!
- Alex de Soto
I thought it was a major mistake when they gave the example of:
- Jerry Schuman
there should be a way for your private messages to go to your priority inbox or something. but has to be a message from someone you want to hear from.
- Laura Norvig
pseudo email with Google+
- Jerry Schuman
what value does this unknown entity provide?
- Jerome Hughes
Jerome: explain, sorry, I lost context.
- Robert Scoble
Google is crowdsourcing features for Google Plus. They have so stated. Their wheels are spinning...
- Alex de Soto
Condensed view and other cool G+ features for Chrome: http://huyz.us/google-plus-me/
- Ankush Narula
ya we need hangout for mobile - android/ios
- Abhijeet Desai
@Robert why don't you turn off "added-you" notifications? or did I miss something?
- fuzzyscorpio
btw: you can create a circle and stick yourself in it to create the idea of an inbox.
- Jerry Schuman
I'm in marketing, and I don't see a problem with keeping all brands out for now. Their problem was letting a handful in.
- Alex de Soto
you can't turn off added you from the notification stream, only from email
- Kevin Marks
when someone you don't know injects, what does their history tell you about their motive?
- Jerome Hughes
thanks @Kevin, sorry, I see that now
- fuzzyscorpio
but how are you ever going to see my new product code named SQUID?
- Jerry Schuman
lol
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Jerry points out the boy in the filter bubble
- Jerome Hughes
That right Jerry. I use one as a "Read Later" circle.
- Alex de Soto
you can filter your notifications though, in the web interface. You can see either "added" or "posts you made" etc.
- Laura Norvig
G+ Android app is sweet (to me)
- clive boulton
I do wish cats and their admirers weren't becoming the whipping post of G+ :)
- fuzzyscorpio
I'm having way more fun with Spotify this week than with G+
- Laura Norvig
like a twitter retweet in the web ui
- Ankush Narula
more seriously, I also kinda wish I could refuse people the right to circle me... already I'm thinking i should stop using "Public"
- fuzzyscorpio
good idea robert
- Abhijeet Desai
Certainly you want to hear about MY cats!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I should be able to mutea user from my incoming stream
- Christian Burns
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thanks for the snappy ringbacks tina
- Kevin Marks
feline order of personality
- Jerome Hughes
you should have some special circles for that
- Kevin Marks
gesturing!
- Jerome Hughes
exactly
- Kevin Marks
alert me more strongly with...
- Kevin Marks
I missed that notifications filter dropdown on plus.google.com, thanks @Laura Norvig! that's handy
- fuzzyscorpio
Hey Christian... did you already feed those kids. Man you're fast
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Noise prolly inspired Dave Morin
- clive boulton
it's easy to miss, fuzzyscorpio - I stumbled on it randomly.
- Laura Norvig
the notifications filter probably doesn't help Robert because he doesn't want to break from the stream
- fuzzyscorpio
Noise is relative. So filtering en masse would be difficult. User tagging (of posts) would help.
- Alex de Soto
Hold on they've said that this deployment is a stripped down version of something more fully fledged that is deployed internally.
- Jerry Schuman
@Tina I'm going to look for you over there and put you in my "feline" circle :)
- fuzzyscorpio
Danny's got it.
- Arnie Klaus
Geez I hope The Google+ dev folks are listening today. we're doing some good work for them here
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google is gun shy from the Buzz blow back
- Jerry Schuman
they intend to add it to other google products, they've said that, so probably testing that internally
- Kevin Marks
other teams didn't believe in it initially?
- Kevin Marks
Ping is a field trial with patience.
- Arnie Klaus
Yep, I'm standing in the kitchen just eating now. Not able to listen, just ff on the android
- Christian Burns
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I love broughten... it's good with brautwurst.
- Jerry Schuman
ha
- Ankush Narula
lol @Jerry
- fuzzyscorpio
Reuters FLASH: Bill Gates sells 5,000,000 shares of Microsoft for average $27.59 each on July 27, 2011 -SEC filing.
- Alex de Soto
I saw the WebOS tablet from HP here, nice OS, tablet too heavy for now
- Kevin Marks
Jerry ha
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Short MSFT..
- Jerry Schuman
Do they still use Zunes?
- Arnie Klaus
Sucks deep... no comment ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I use Facebook
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Facebook = Family and Friends
- Alex de Soto
Windows Phone 7 - Arrington's comment on Gillmor Gang back in September: https://twitter.com/#!...
- Ankush Narula
Ankush: exactly.
- Robert Scoble
Just the idea they called it "Windows" shows how utterly borked MSFT is...
- Jerry Schuman
Scale of Microsoft and Partner channel biz model require top guy to be product guy (not sales guy)
- clive boulton
and then to name it after years... ooops!
- Jerome Hughes
lets carry this discussion forward on google hangout https://talkgadget.google.com/hangout...
- Abhijeet Desai
Jerry++
- Ankush Narula
Someone ask Loic how grateful he is that Microsoft lead him down the silverlight path for Seesmic and then abandoned it.
- Jerry Schuman
haha
- Ankush Narula
RIM is dead.
- Jim Turner
Jerry: Loic Plays for Sure ;-)
- Ankush Narula
MSFT + Nokia - Too little too late?
- Chris Bray
-honeycomb (in my searches)
- Jerome Hughes
RIM is valuable (to Google?)
- clive boulton
Cadence - The root of social.
- Arnie Klaus
API!!!! embrace the developers
- Jerry Schuman
"HP TouchPad. Works like nothing else." - I was at BestBuy yesterday and both display units were uncharged and turned off - unlike the iPads in the next display
- Ankush Narula
they need the eco-system
- Jerry Schuman
but can they tolerate it?
- Jerome Hughes
a deprecating decorator icon is optimal!
- Jerome Hughes
Instagram Cat Pictures!
- Alex de Soto
Cadence (lack of it) is MSFT's cross to bear.
- clive boulton
google has launched photovine isnt it like instagram ???
- Abhijeet Desai
I've been waiting for a Photovine invitation for a while....
- Alex de Soto
I can't believe Steve said that about solarization, LOL
- fuzzyscorpio
throw your phone in the air, just like you just don't care!
- Jerome Hughes
@Abhijeet same general idea, as I understand it
- fuzzyscorpio
who cares, Roku rocks!
- Laura Norvig
3DS price slashed abt 1/3rd
- clive boulton
apps on AppleTV... it's just around the corner
- Jerry Schuman
Roku supports Hulu and Amazon as well as Netflix
- Ankush Narula
they turn on that bluetooth chip and it's going to get interesting.
- Jerry Schuman
What does the bluetooth chip give you that the Wifi doesn't?
- Ankush Narula
Live stream that one Steve.
- Jim Turner
good save!
- Jerome Hughes
bye ;-)
- Xenophrenia
Good show guys :)
- Chris Bray
guys join a hangout to discuss tech now https://talkgadget.google.com/hangout...
- Abhijeet Desai
Thanks!
- Robert Scoble
Adios muchachos(chas)!
- Alex de Soto
Interesting, I'll definitely tune in again! Sorry I haven't sooner.
- fuzzyscorpio
hello? did y'all finish?
- Kevin Marks
its over Kev
- Jerry Schuman
We should charge Google for product consulting.
- Robert Scoble
Amy Winehouse - Tenderly http://youtu.be/LNA2TdfsQhg
- clive boulton
r they listening? :D
- Jerome Hughes
Robert: We are the product
- Ankush Narula
Who needs instagram? https://plus.google.com/1095818...
- Kevin Marks
@kevin the show has ended
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