It's not journalism. But it sure is easy, huh? pwnd.
- Chris Baskind
I always hated that eric spellman thats why i dont watch KTLA
- erick
Wow. What was the point of that? Someone should submit that clip along with a reply comment when that station files for it's FCC license renewal. Two words: Public. Interest.
- Andrew Feinberg
Todays news is simply entertainment. A true journalist could have created an interesting story exploring the motivations of the iPhone buyers.
- Jim McCusker
AHAHAH. I that's why I hate broadcast journalists.
- David Cohn
Looking for hard hitting journalism from the man-on-the-street section of a local news show, eh? Hey, when the weather man shows the local pound puppy up for adoption that day they better not throw it any softball questions, either. They need to get to the truth with that beast!
- Jim Stanger
"But the publicity could very well backfire. Editor David Remnick and artist Barry Blitt's attempt at satire seems so arrogant and indulgent in its insensitivity, and so out of touch with political and media dynamics of tabloid TV and blogs, that it just might make a lot of people angry, including some subscribers. The cover turns the magazine into a potential Molotov cocktail, to be gleefully tossed by Fox News and the conservative blogs, into the already combustible tinderbox of race and Muslim stereotypes just below the surface of America's public discourse."
- Jason Wehmhoener
from Bookmarklet
Thanks kevin: I just wanted to hear that from someone else as well. I am happy that it come from you. I have been thinking about the same in last few days. I want to set up a blog for our site and I thought why not do it for example here on Friendfeed and use the other tools you mentioned above to support it.
- Joao
I still can't feel comfortably with Pownce. I preffer Tumblr for easily and freedom.
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
I use the blog to talk about the stuff that I find on the sites.
- Bradley McSpinn
i was commenting something similiar the other day - isn't facebook for people that can't type more than one sentence in their own blog? Does it make you seem more interesting than you really are?
- Jason Hoch
Joao: yea, have been thinking the same thing - I might start forwarding kevinrose.com to friendfeed. Just wish I could customize the layout.
- Kevin Rose
A blog is still good for long-form thoughts as opposed to the quick bursts that you'd put out on Twitter or FF.
- Alex
Without blogs, what would we submit to Digg?
- Josh Kenzer
You bring up a good point... Soon, design will not matter much.. Content is King.
- Robert
I think a blog still has its place, but it is used much less frequently. Like Alex said it is really just for long (multi paragraph or even page) thoughts and personal opinions that you can't find on say Digg. Even still, using FF in conjunction with a blog improves it even more :D.
- Shaun Bevill
Think about how many "flash" websites you used to see and how many you see now....
- Robert
Has anyone set up a FriendFeed room as a personal blog yet? I can't think of any reason why that wouldn't work.
- Mike Doeff
well for you no. For people who don't own Pownce, Digg, etc and want to make $ from the internet by creating content and selling ads around those content. Still need a blog or site.
- Greg Wilker
from twhirl
good point Greg - no way to place ads on these sites.
- Kevin Rose
@Greg Wilker good point... I am sure there is another way, but not sure what that way is...
- Robert
I'll post wherever I get the most interaction... for me that happens to be FriendFeed.
- Brandon
its a good point / question. what ecosystem works? I still think having a blog as a personal home base - an airport if you will - is a good idea. touch down on all the other sites - engage - and for further content: blog
- j sven
well, it's not really needed. But being a writer, it helps me to be in the writing habit and maintaining discipline...
- Fajar Jasmin
Yes, but the form will change. A successful blog will have API access to all of the above and be able to sort/arrange your online footprint in a meaningful way that is easy for users to scan through. It would also allow you to make traditional blog posts that work in reverse order. Friendfeed is close to this, but it is too disjointed and not customizable.
- Cade Brown
Dang, seems you struck a chord. Conversation's exploding here and on Twitter. I am glad you bring this up, as you have the ability to get this question answered quite effectively. I WANT to have a blog, but these other services are treating me quite well. The issue comes in remembering where all this stuff you've saved/said is located and the audience that receives it is more and more niche...enter FF? I guess.
- Victor Vasquez
One other thing is I'm all about less is more. Do you really want to say "hey go friend me up on twitter.com/insertname friendfeed.com/insertname digg.com/user/insertname etc etc or would you rather just say insertname.com to people with links to those other sites on it. you can insert my name into those if you want to friend me up. =D
- Greg Wilker
from twhirl
you forgot your tumblr zen-style blog....
- Dan van Moll
Agreed, blogs should be long form thoughts. Stop posting one sentence updates to your blog.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
I'm still keeping mine! A blog to me is different than what Pownce, Twitter and FF offer. They are more "communities" where there is far more interaction than in a blog. Receiving and responding to comments out on a blog is very different than the instantaneous interaction I get while using the likes of Twitter and FF.
- Geoff Peterson
Depends on if you want to write. I like the idea of a personally branded dedicated space...
- Ryan
I still think a blog is important. Its just more personal than forwarding your site to FF. Ya, FF is personal, but its something that you don't own, and can't customize the way you want.
- Nick Humphries
a blog is the only place where you own both the content AND the style.
- Brian Ries
But FriendFeed might be able to monetize the comments, especially if there's a thread/pattern among participants.
- phil baumann
All that stuff is wonderful if you suffer from ADD.... but for thoughts, arguments, commentary, etc that's longer, fuller, better developed and hopefully more "permanent" than one off comments, you still need some kind of site or blog. Contrary to popular belief around here, sometimes you need more than 140 characters to say something worthwhile.
- Eric P
I'm still having issuse with the FF comment plugin for wordpress =( I really like FF so far just wish my coding skills were up to part to figure this out. send me an email if you know how to get it to work gregwilker.net@gmail.com
- Greg Wilker
from twhirl
Since you don't post long entries, probably not. FriendFeed catches my Diggs, tweets, and Pownces, I just pipe all of that to my blog: http://www.screwtheman.com
- Paul Reynolds
And Vimeo (HD videos), QIK (mobile live streaming)
- Langley Zhu
... Demonoid (torrents), Last.fm (music), Adium (IM).. that's about all ya need.
- shaggyshaw
One of the most interesting things is that there is, so far, no content spam here in the discussions. On my Wordpress blog (lightly used) I had to turn off all comments because of horrible drug spam. While the filters usually caught it, nonetheless, it ended up on my server, and added to traffic. My site (not the blog :-) ) has 65,000+ visitors per month and doesn't need junk added into the blog space. While Kevin may not need a blog now, his material is readily and happily accessed and organized, some may.
- iSteeve
blog for fuller content, but you'll use it less.
- clarke thomas
Heck, I'd ask for more followers (I would probably be about 500th or lower), but then Scoble would block me ;)
- Vince DeGeorge
I am reported as having 662 but FF tells me I have 952. Seems like a higher than normal margin. If I understand it, those folks are either private or lurkers?
- Christopher Sacca
Nuts that I made this list ... good stuff :)
- Nick O'Neill
a nice list of enemies that must be destroyed. :) just kidding "I'm not here to make friends!"
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
@Sacca, the author's said that they can only crawl active accounts that have published activity. There are likely _a ton_ of accounts that were created, following you for example, that weren't picked up due to inactivity. Mine was off by 25-30% as well. And if you think about it... even the most popular activities here just graze 100 likes or comments, not 2000, so there are a lot of people who don't participate.
- Louis Gray
I'm with Chris, I'm being underreported, private ones?
- MG Siegler
I have 63. I thought I would have made the list.
- Rob Williams
This should be fun to explore new users.
- Mark Krynsky
Darn, just missed. 5 minutes late, that should be my motto.
- Phil G
it's pretty interesting to me, actually, that for being as tiny, tech focused and A-list driven as people say FF is - nobody's got more than 20% of users following them and only 7 people have more than 7% of users following them. That makes me think things are more diverse around here than I thought. No?
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
@Marshall The truth is, small blogs have a bigger voice here than any other social service.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
@kriskrug then I must be a Sucka Playboy! Dont get how I could've make this list, but its a nice bday surpise anyway.
- Schlomo Rabinowitz
Looking at a graph of the top 50 users, the Default Nine effect isn't all that pronounced. The distribution of users looks pretty much like the sort of thing you get when you do any graph of this sort (i.e. a classic long tail) http://kshep.posterous.com/graph-o...
- Ken Sheppardson
i'm yearning for the day that the top 5 are non-techies...that will be a great day for Friendfeed!
- Pokai
I especiallylike Pokai's comment—I'll be happiest when the top users are diverse people, not just "techies."
- Cathryn Hrudicka
The list reports my followers at 255, FF shows me closer to 355, but still cool to be on the list at 209 even if I feel I'm not as active on FF as many, many others, guess I'm still relatively active...
- Shannon Clark
If my stats were reported correctly, I would appear in the top 100 - woo hoo!!
- Susan Beebe
If they published a list of the top 75,000, I'd totally make it. ;)
- Wes Justice
Alas, I've not hit the top 250... ;-)
- Mark Dykeman
this list isn't as useful as a list of top n most interesting people (the people with the most "likes" or top n users with the most comments.)
- Alan Le
I like Alan's idea. That would be fun to know.
- Yolanda
better question: why do you all want to know that stuff? would being a most interesting person on friendfeed be a fulfilling feeling? seems like it wouldn't...
- Jeremy Toeman
seems I am popular - have 292 subs :)
- Mrinal Desai
The number one way I find people to add on FF? Nope, not FFs recommendations, finding little white bubbles next to people making interseting comments in conversations. These are the people that I want more of. Folks that participate intelligently are far more valuable than A listers who don't.
I'm only just now starting to use FF, even though I signed up months ago...and I agree, this tool is far more useful than even twitter.
- Jeremy Botter
I agree 100% Tom. That is how I have been finding a lot of people. I am relatively new to FF so that and friend of a friend posts are the only ways I am finding people.
- Matt Donders
Personally - that's why FriendFeed is differentiating itself from a lot of other sites. It caters to those active people that want to discuss, learn, inform - which makes it a resource that I come back to over and over again...
- George Smith
I'm in absolute agreement but have to admit that I've added some of the A listers just to see who's talking to them intelligently. Granted, the ROI's a little low, but sometimes watching the fawning is reward in and of itself. <insert sarcasticon here>
- Linda Mills
Good point, this is one of the reasons why I'm spending more time on FF now - great way to discover and interact with new people that have relevant information/comments to share
- Gabriel Biguria
So very true. My page of "recommended" friends is nothing but a bunch of A-listers that would fill my FF pages with mostly junk, and not a lot of substance.
- Brandon Wood
When I am looking for people that share my interests, I search for a headline I really liked on the everyone tab and check out others who shared it and see what they are all about. It is kind of time consuming but fun.
- Geoff Schultz
I'd also add that you don't have to add a whole lot of people to get quality content thrown into your FF stream. I'm slowly adding people and the value of FF went up 10 fold.
- Otto R. Radke
The goal of adding friends here is to have intersting stuff in your Friendfeed. And you do that by carefully watching the dicussion not just in terms of comments and likes ( as mentioned above multiple times), but what items are posted by people. Thats whats I look for.
- Roberto Bonini
I've been getting annoyed at the amount of junk, repetition, and endless Twitter vs. FriendFeed talk from the so-called "A-listers". It's high time to start unsubscribing and find some new "friends".
- Matt
the ancient toad style of social networking
- Anthony
Actually if you do that you soon realize that there's more content by interesting people here than time you have to read that. Then, the question stops being how to find interesting people (that you'll keep finding and following) but how to reduce the noise...
- Marcos Marado
from fftogo
So Marcos the task at hand is to become Jedi of the Hide button and learn how to fine tune everything.
- Mark Forman
Hide is awsome, but I'm feeling it is not enough. I hope noiseriver ends up being the solution, but... it still hasn't the hide feature implemented :-)
- Marcos Marado
from fftogo
Hah! I just added everyone in this post who I wasn't already subscribed to.
- Thomas Hawk
Ha! Prepare to be inundated with my brand of minutia!
- Geoff Schultz
If the same friend of X comes up often, and I find them interesting, I will subscribe to them.
- Hao Chen
I, too, am just getting more involved in this social networking thing ...
- Robert Couture
This taps into what for me is the stand-out experience FF. 'Common Interest' is _one_ facet, but there's more going on in deciding to Subscribe or not. It's like a first impression in person - the brain takes a bunch of behavioral cues builds a profile in seconds upon which decisions (sometimes lasting) are made. To balance the split decision weakness of not enough information, just cruise through the person's feed for 'background check'. All common sense I suppose.
- Micah Wittman
Yeah but I frikin HATE the moment I add 1 person from a thread i like, I get bumped out of the thread & have to go back & search for it again to see if I want to add anyone else.
- Mrsth
@mrsth, I agree 110% w/ that. It's easier to open a new tab then scroll down and locate the topic again...
- Czar
Nah...I add completely based on superficiality and looks. :-P
- Live4Emma (L4S)
@Czar- ah I didn't realize you could do that. I'll give it a whirl. Thx!!!
- Mrsth
@Carlos Perez- Ahh. that explains alot. You can only see my legs:-)
- Mrsth
i guess just a 'me too' here would be totally wrong.
- MLx
I think the only way to find those interesting people you don't know is to subscribe to the popular people. I've been finding some interesting folks that way. Otherwise, no one posts comments to your own stuff. Oh, to be unpopular. Sigh.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
That's exactly correct. I don't auto-follow. I add people who comment and like and share things I'm interested in.
- Louis Gray
wow, that's a super-excellent observation. i'm taking the hint with a few 'white-bubble' folks here too. altho i wonder if the FF folks shouldn't cue that behavior up with mouse-over info on the bubble icons... i had no clue why the color was showing up at first. (then again, i'm often an idiot)
- dave mcclure
awesome. this reaffirms why i like ff better than twitter. the failwhale is kind of endearing, though.
- Marissa "malouie"
Couldn't agree more! The Fancy Pants people are too fancy, I just want interesting conversation(s)!
- Cheryl
Totally agree!! Wish I could get some of those people as my friends too!!
- ChaCha Fance
I can't stand FF posts with more than 10 comments. I want to filter them out but there is no option for that.
- Sam Pullara
What client are you using? twirhl makes comments on FF OK, but just OK. It's a shame that we're all this way and still don't have clients that support threaded conversations as good as tin or slrn on usenet...
- David Molnar
from twhirl
david let's agree on 'as good as on usenet' - i never could stand neither tin nor slrn *g* but yes. it is now 10 years ago that most decent usenet clients had a feature set still not rediscovered for everything feedish ...
- Nicole Simon
Agreed as well I look out for the white speech bubbles as well to see what value they add to the FriendFeed community!
- Joe Dawson
Occasionally I'll wander over to everyone and 'browse'. it's really eye opening as FF grows
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie, I like doing that too, but we need a language filter badly!
- Hao Chen
The number one trick A-listers use and I never liked? " hey I'm here now on friendfeed, comment on this if you want me to follow you". I don't want them to follow me because they are important. I want them to follow me because they feel I'm important to them!
- Alexander van Elsas
Agreed- when I see opinions I like from someone several times, I check to see if I've subscribed to them yet.
- Brian Carter
My first time on FF and I like the interaction I'm seeing. The "white bubbles" are a great way to find new and interesting people.
- Tom Newman
That's a great way to find friends with whom you can actually talk and count as friends. And the comments are a great feature of FF. I'm just getting to know how to make FF useful for me...
- Dan V
I haven't found FF list of recommendations terribly useful either. Although this is a bad example, because it brought me to this entry.
- TDavid
The criteria of "participate intelligently" is a relative word. What is "intelligent" to you may sound "stupid" to others? I guess the more appropriate term would be "value-adding to the conversation".. But I agree 100% on how "comments" can really uncover hidden gems!
- Winston Teo
I do this too. I consider the comments a kind of signaling (a concept I learned from economics). Too bad there are so little interesting people in FF (to me at least, my interests are a little "off" from the median).
- Meryn Stol
Bell's = ze bomb. Two Hearted Ale is pretty much a food group of my diet.
- Ian Wilker
from twhirl
When I lived in A2, MI I drank so much Bell's. One of the best and most unheralded micro breweries in the United States. OMG thanks for the memories!
- James
Matt, I'm not at the brewery, but I would love to visit some time. I always pickup Bell's when I see it since I don't come across it on the west coast.
- Scott Beale
Oh yeah! I'm back in Michigan now, I can drink myself silly on Bell's now
- l.m.orchard
from twhirl
absolutely one of the best breweries in the US. That reminds me, I'm driving through Michigan very soon and may need to make a slight detour! :)
- Mike Marusin
We WERE upset in Chicago. Hearing the name Bell's is like hearing the name of a girl who dumped you. I miss her so much...
- Jason Phillips
When I heard the name Kalamazoo I assumed you were in Australia. Newcastle Brown is a good ale-- I'd recommend it.
- john conroy
I've loved every Bell's beer I've had (except for the Cherry Stout). Oberon, Celebrator Doppelbock, Two Hearted, Third Coast Old Ale, all good. I've almost always got bottles of something of theirs in the the fridge
- Andy Tinkham
from twhirl