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Is Lifestreaming a Catalyst for What's Coming After Web 2.0? - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
rab, Minh Bui, B2B Specialist and 53 other people liked this
Lifestreaming is a part of a bigger trend: the death of static web pages.
- Robert Scoble
Here's an interesting follow up to this from Tris Hussey I just came across http://www.trishussey.com/2008...
- Mark Krynsky
Static web pages may be dying, but lifestreaming must be mined to generate relatively solid and interactive knowledge structures that span the entire Web. Otherwise it's all just babble and baubles. And that is why we need a robust Semantic Web.
- Sean McBride
interesting post, but generally speaking (at least with the broader question) I'd say no. I actually think that we're due a backlash soon on putting everything out there. We will eventually get to the Ben Elton novel stage, but in cycles
- Duncan Riley
Duncan - have you seen any backlash stories yet? Surely it's just a matter of time
- Edd McArdle
from twhirl
Really Duncan? Can you elaborate? I thought embarassing drunk photos on MySpace was about the worst backlash possible. I actually like this new era of transparency.
- Mark Krynsky
Thanks for all the likes folks...but not many really feel like adding to the campfire eh?
- Mark Krynsky
Not if all the services disappear. We'll all be updating our .plan files again.
- l0ckergn0me
yes lifestreaming is the beginning of the next thing online
- Mich D.
Haha Chris .plan files that's a good one. Guess we'll have to start using Gopher again too. But you bring up a good point. These guys better figure out a monetization strategy soon. Ads or Freemium are fine by me.
- Mark Krynsky
Sorry, gotta disagree - we're being blinded by the bleeding edge here. Most people still consume web content through conventional websites, and I suspect that's not going to change anytime soon.
- GerryBot
is (mobile) lifestreaming not part of the trend which links online and offline life
- jon bradford
I am finding I'm spending more time in places like Friendfeed, and less time actually blogging. As for static web sites - I do have one or two, but I'm moving more and more to blogging. One, even for a web designer, for my own needs (not talking about clients here) a blog is simply easier to set up, and two, it's much easier to update.
- Ian May
Duncan, you may be right about public lifestreaming. I'm looking at the top 10 OurDoings users in terms of photos uploaded, and 7 out of 10 use only unlisted URLs. And of the remaining 3, the only one who puts out truly public content is me.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
About the larger question, I really, really hope lifestreaming grows. I run OurDoings, which is real-life streaming with words and photos (as opposed to an aggregator). I think the biggest photo-sharing sites 5 years from now will be ones that are blog-like. I hope mine is one of them.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
We we might see is an ability to see individual lives as a pattern and on top of that see societies as a pattern of interacting patterns.
- Todd Hoff
I wouldn't go so far as to call it the 'death' of static web pages. Seeing that a lot of old web things we have pronounced the death sentence on, still exist in one form or the other.
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
todd, do you think that can happen even if the individual lives we see are a totally non-random sample?
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
possible, since it can lead to more services being created to enhance the lifestream.. and to connect with others' lifestreams...for example, i thought yongfook's sweetcron was a good start for a personal lifestream, but that again's just the tip of the berg and there's scope for plenty more....lifeblob is another service, that allows bridging of different lifestreams... but all this might take quite sometime to become ubiquitous.. by then, we'd be having this discussion about web 4.0 on our lifestreams? :)
- manuscrypts
GerryBot, my post was more about how the logic behind Lifestreaming (data aggregation) is playing a role in the next phase of the web. With Mint.com you have a vertical implementation of Lifestreaming with clear benefits added by analyzing the data. As far as users are concerned these _are_ conventional websites.
- Mark Krynsky
Hm, interesting Bruce. Is there a bias? How large is the population? And what are the objectives of the study? In my thinking I'm looking to predicatively use similarities so I am not concerned about about making correct inferences outside the population. But as a general ethnographic mechanism it's definitely inadequate.
- Todd Hoff
todd, when you mentioned societies I thought you were talking about nation-scale societies. If you only want to look at online societies the bias problem is a lot smaller.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce, certainly global civilization is the goal as that will give the broadest life examples and the best opportunity to learn from those lives.
- Todd Hoff
@Krynsky Have you noticed that you are far and away the biggest Depeche Mode fan on Agglodex? http://www.agglodex.com/profile...
- Jesse Hattabaugh
@Jesse, yea well the last 24 hours saw quite a bit of love for Depeche. Perhaps you need to tweak recency & frequency settings :) btw Agglodex is coming along nicely.
- Mark Krynsky
Lifestreaming has become such a popular trend amongst the evolving web.
- Amir
Remember the days when you had to update .log files?
- Amir
Lifestreaming alongwith semantic web. Think real-time FF rooms
- Varun Mahajan
Wow, this is currently #10 on Louis' "Most Liked FriendFeed Entries" via FFholic http://ffholic.com/UserInf...
- Mark Krynsky
Cruz - A Social Browser for Mac OS X Leopard - http://cruzapp.com/
Grey Drane, Luca Conti, Brad Brooks and 12 other people liked this
First it was called "Mecca", then "Clique", now Cruz - and it's available!!
- Matt Harwood
from Bookmarklet
Using now to view FF (iPhone mode), it's spanking fast!
- Jonathan Kong
Even after I cleared the cache, I'm still able to load the web services without login. Neat. How's the experience for you guys so far?
- Jonathan Kong
looks beautiful!
- Anthony Farrior
[Review] Cruz - A Social Browser for Mac OS X Leopard by Jonathan Kong http://friendfeed.com/jonatha...
- Zee.
This really needs a way to import bookmarks from FF and Safari... it's the only I could really switch to it for any productive work. Is there?
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
To me, Twitter could evolve to be a platform more than a messaging service http://dev.twitter.com/2008...
Igor Poltavskiy, Dan Shust, Lu Tao and Louis Gray liked this
Absolutely! I think their platform is what they should monetize, not the service itself.
- Kirill Bolgarov
I think the real-time search functionality is more important than Google for many events as well.
- Louis Gray
Cooliris Comes To iPhone - Now You Can Surf The Mobile Web in 3D - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Daniel Rowley, Mike Fruchter, Arnaud Fischer and 28 other people liked this
Wow, I love the desktop application. Will be interesting to see it on the iPhone.
- Andrew Trinh
Love Cooliris as an application to view flickr groups. Interested to see how well it works on the iPhone.
- Damien Franco
@Damien - it's pretty incredible!
- Sarah Perez
talk about a match made in heaven...
- Chris Hollander
Gah! Three new iPhone apps installed just today!
- Phil G
no way. I need to check this out on my Touch.
- Alan Le
Perfect, new motivation to finally go out and get an iPhone.
- Mike Reynolds
just installed it a little bit ago... as many have suggested, it's perfect for the iphone...
- Shawn Duffy
from twhirl
beautiful app. You can kill hours with it. (well, until you battery rims out)
- Dan Shust
An amazing amazing app. Downloaded it two nights ago and it's fun.
- Zach Flauaus
Confirmed. Qik app works on regular iPhone. I'm streaming live from mine now @ http://qik.com/l0ckergn0me (heh)
Jayavasanthan J, Gerald Buckley, Dan Shust and 11 other people liked this
when you say "regular" are you referring to a non jail broken iphone?
- Justin Korn
wow, and the picture looks great too. This will be awesome when they release it.
- Adam Turetzky
What do you mean by "regular iPhone"? The older EDGE model? or a non-jailbroken iPhone?
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
This is on the Qik blog: "Qikkers and Qik fans out there - I want to clarify the questions that are being raised about Qik coming to iPhone App Store. We are looking into this, but at present are not sure when and how this will happen."
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
i wish ff could grab qik post
- videopixil
I'm not elite enough to get it early :-( I got the jailbroken early but they don't like me any more. :-(
- Jesse Stay
FriendFeed Blog: Keeping it real with the FriendFeed Real-time API - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2008...
Tyson Key, Laura Norvig, Mindaugas Dagys and 62 other people liked this
"If your application uses the FriendFeed API, you can now show FriendFeed updates to your users in real-time using the new FriendFeed Real-time API. We're providing access to the same underlying technology that's used by the real-time view on FriendFeed to all FriendFeed developers."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
This is the gamechanger for FriendFeed - just wait and see
- Ed Dale
sure it is! but hope friendfeed can scale better than twitter...
- Aziz
Bret, IMHO, instead of providing such "fantasy" features for the API, you should raise the limits you told me that you weren't able to raise some months ago... But, heh, you decide :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Nice work guys. Keep up the innovation and stay focused.
- Louis Gray
directeur: mind sending an mail to api@friendfeed.com detailing what limits you are referring to? Sorry if we dropped something - it was likely just forgotten due to something else, but we can address your problem now with all the details.
- Bret Taylor
Nice job. I would have preferred that the term "Real-Time" be reserved for an XMPP like implementation. As of now this feature is great but it is not exactly real-time. It is polling after all. This is a massive improvement though. Great work FF crew. Keep pushing the envelope. Don't fear the fire hose!
- Rolf Schewe
Bret: Thanks for the answer, I'll send you an email ASAP with the details! Again thanks for the attention
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Rolf, this API supports "long polling" -- it's every bit as realtime as XMPP.
- Paul Buchheit
@Rolf: with long polling, you get updates as soon as we have them, so it is as real-time as XMPP, just a different delivery mechanism.
- Bret Taylor
Bret, what's real-time in the case of Friendfeed? Really? I still have the picture of an axajy widget that refreshes and sends queries... It's pulling from the server, not the other way, right?
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Gentlemen, Friendfeed 1.0 is a cool service. With RealTime API, I think we're looking at "killer app" with a huge breadth of applications. Well done.
- John Craft
So it is also dependent on the delivery on the other end I suppose. I just don't get why I get some content fast such as Twitter and some after a long delay such as Google Reader shared items.
- Rolf Schewe
Google Reader shared items are definitely not real-time.
- Rolf Schewe
From a community building perspective - this real-time is more than enough. If your a programmer designing an app with the API - here is the NUMBER 1 request - Make sure your app doesn't jump out of the stream when you comment or like something
- Ed Dale
on long polling vs xmpp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Karl Rosaen
I added Facebook today and tested to see the delay. The status message came through 1 hour later. I actually timed it.
- Rolf Schewe
@rolf: ff servers have to decide how often to crawl the feeds; they don't have the luxury of a realtime api to all of those services. if you post something to ff directly, however, you'll notice it show up immediately
- Karl Rosaen
Rolf- As Karl says, for incoming content we're at the mercy of the external providers. Our proposal for solving that side of the problem is called SUP: http://blog.friendfeed.com/2008...
- Casey Muller
Casey, suppose I write an entry and delete it just after. Will it still be in the ral-time view for other users?
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
it will increasingly be helpful to know which feeds FF does have realtime access to
- Steve Gillmor
So in essence the real-time feature is in some terms conditional on the outside services. Kind-of real-time.
- Rolf Schewe
help us to put pressure on them by listing those who have XMPP pipes in
- Steve Gillmor
directeur- Yes. Anybody (including API clients) monitoring the real-time feed will already have received the entry before you deleted it
- Casey Muller
casey can you guys publish a list of inputs with polling frequency please
- Steve Gillmor
The real innovation (sorry to insist on this) will be to process feeds on the user's level. Attention is the keyword. I DEFINITELY don't care about real-time. I want intersting stuff not fastly delivered ones... just sayin' :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Steve, Twitter is the only service that sends updates by XMPP. All other services (except things posted directly on FriendFeed or via the API) arrive via RSS/Atom feeds, which are generally checked once every 1/2 hour. However, we also monitor several pinging services and utilize SUP to discover feed updates much faster and can often get new entries within a minute or two.
- Paul Buchheit
out of curiosity, what does the ff realtime view set the timeout to? (i should clarify: I'm talking about calls from the client JS to the realtime APIs; what's the timeout of those requests)
- Karl Rosaen
Karl, it's currently about 60 sec, but that's mainly due to concern about browser and proxy timeouts. The server responds as soon as there is an update, so there's no disadvantage to using a larger timeout.
- Paul Buchheit
@Paul, thanks, i was wondering for a comparison to the timeout you'd need to use if supporting such an api from an app engine app (where you have to respond within 10 seconds or so I think)
- Karl Rosaen
Thanks for the feedback and the links. It helped a lot. Maybe down the line we will be able to get RSS data in a little faster. The Google Reader floods can get a little heavy with the current polling interval.
- Rolf Schewe
Paul would other sources who provide XMPP be accepted? Or is Twitter exclusive?
- Steve Gillmor
Steve: We would be happy to support more XMPP services depending on the ease of implementation. It is certainly not exclusive to Twitter.
- Bret Taylor
great to hear Bret
- Steve Gillmor
Yeah, the long-polling isn't the long pole.
- j1m
How many people out there a using FriendFeed Real-time?
- Amir
moi
- Zee.
oi (and remember, you're just asking friends of Bret, in this thread)
- Christopher Galtenberg
I don't use the Real-time a lot but It's not bad
- Amir
FriendFeed Blog: FriendFeed adds support for Facebook, Joost, BackType, Twine, and Wakoopa - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2008...
Dobromir Hadzhiev, Amir, Isha (Marysia) and 44 other people liked this
fantastic guys - awesome. thank you.
- Zee.
The Facebook instructions are seemingly incorrect: going to the page specified doesn't have the link FriendFeed is requiring. Any ideas? Screenshot: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Mark Trapp
i got it working - i think the new layout may look a little different
- Ed Dale
Whee! Twine!
- Cyndy
Mark - I used the rss feed in the url bar at the top. I haven't tested it yet though.
- Andrew
According to http://www.facebook.com/help..., the Mini-feed no longer exists, so the URL FriendFeed requires technically shouldn't work at all. I guess I'm one of the uncool people who had it stop working for them, at least in part, sooner than others.
- Mark Trapp
Wow, glad to see Facebook added to the list! nice!! Mark's information concern's me though...will this work?
- Susan Beebe
Mark, I suspect that you have the feed turned off in your privacy settings. See http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, yep: that did it, thanks!
- Mark Trapp
Fantastic
- Varun Mahajan
thanks, might not need to go to facebook at all anymore!
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Social WordPress to Launch in December - Webmonkey - http://www.webmonkey.com/blog...
karl dotter, Marcel Weiß, Divided By Zer0 and 49 other people liked this
"During his interview at The Start Conference, WordPress founder Matt Mullenweg announced that BuddyPress will be released before the end of the year. Based on the multi-user version of WordPress, BuddyPress has the features we all expect from a social network: friends, profiles, and tasteless photo galleries."
- Dave Winer
from Bookmarklet
so ning? :)
- Jeff Woelker
from twhirl
@Jeff But it's open source (that alone is an advantage) and it's integrated with Wordpress, giving it a potential install base of millions (or at least hundreds of thousands) of blogs that can use the software.
- sebmos
And it supports all the common weblog formats and protocols. It's compatible with lots of stuff that social networks typically are not. Tooools.
- Dave Winer
As lame as "BuddyPress" sounds, I can actually imagine it becoming the backbone of an open-architecture 'social' web. Cry havoc and let slip the plug-in scripters of war!
- Rob Sterling
now i see the light
- Jeff Woelker
from twhirl
Seriously folks, check out Elgg: this funtionality is already available for you to host yourself without relying on Ning.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Wow, that's quite interesting!
- Daynah
So, speaking of thousands of sites using this, I expect there will be some common method of post and commenting based on something like openid?
- Ernie Oporto
6 Cool GreaseMonkey Scripts To Rock Your Friendfeed | MakeUseOf.com - http://www.makeuseof.com/tag...
LouCypher, tomit, elyse and 13 other people liked this
[CODE] Neal Stephenson on programming - http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/classic...
Dan Shust liked this
What programming and writing have in common
- engtech
My thoughts on social networking applications. » Blog Archive » 30 Friendfeed non tech related rooms - http://michaelfruchter.com/blog...
"3) Typography Topics: Discussions and images on Typography and all things typographical. Room: http://friendfeed.com/rooms... Member count: 210"
- Erhan Erdogan
from Bookmarklet
Special thanks to me. Heheh. : ) http://friendfeed.com/e... LYN: I want to be admin. : p
- Erhan Erdogan
: ) Real thanks to all contributors. You are all amazing.
- Erhan Erdogan
what a nice surprise.. ♥ thanks Erhan (: great list (30 friendfeed non tech related rooms: http://michaelfruchter.com/blog..., http://friendfeed.com/e...) and thank you all for your comments and support ♥ thanks for joining us..
- Lyn
Twitter Back On Track? - Raises API Limit To 100 Requests Per Hour - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Dan Shust liked this
Quick, someone make an iPhone fail whale!
Dan Shust liked this
In case others don't see it: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Brent Newhall
Microblogging: Twitter and Other Blogging Tools - http://www.newsweek.com/id...
Zulu, bsag, Dan Shust and 2 other people liked this
welcome to the digital age
- orionstarr
iBrick is one of the top words on Twitter today. Deja vous. http://summize.com/search...
David, Dan Shust, Alan Cheslow and 5 other people liked this
You mean Déjà vu.
- Rubin Sfadj
on "Déjà vu" - hard to type that on mobile phones. ;-)
- AJ Batac
ideed lol
- Rubin Sfadj
What_ever! ;-)
- Steve Rubel
Even harder if your phone is bricked :)
- Dave Pelland
Original birckage: http://twurl.nl/3ilo68
- Clay Newton
In an Iranian Image, a Missile Too Many - The Lede - Breaking News - New York Times Blog - http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008...
Kol Tregaskes, Gavin, tomit and 99 other people liked this
For its part, Agence France-Presse retracted its four-missile version this morning, saying that the image was “apparently digitally altered” by Iranian state media. The fourth missile “has apparently been added in digital retouch to cover a grounded missile that may have failed during the test,” the agency said. Later, it published an article quoting several experts. Throughout the day, several news sites have taken steps to disown the photograph that they ran on Wednesday, including LATimes.com and MSNBC.com.
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
Oh come on - you'd think they would learn that we live in the 21st century by now?
- DAVE ID
Idiots.
- Shawn Farner
We should have caught this on the desk though. It probably got validated in a hurry and wasn't thoroughly checked
- Jon Dillon
Yikes.
- l0ckergn0me
That's amazing. lol
- justine
I find the enthusiasm of media funny. Media should better direct our country's foreign policy than scoring some brownie points on photoshop disasters. How does it matter if one missile failed. What matters is what we are going to do to stop missile proliferation without using our own missile. Scoring such brownie points are kid's play and not media's.
- Krishnan Subramanian
The Iranians should be writing Photoshop tutorials instead of trying to mimic their missle supply!
- John Barker
busted by the Lizard Army
- Jeff Evans
Great story!
- Daan
Nice catch ya'll. Wag the dog indeed!
- Mathew A. Koeneker
http://www.flickr.com/photos... I suck at Photoshop :-(
- AJ Batac
Good that AFP caught it. I've been documenting "fauxtography" in the media: theory.isthereason.com/?p=1164
- Kevin Lim
If the photo would have come the Pentagon instead of Iran's Revolutionary Guard the AP would have checked it out.
- Robert Hafer
@Robert you mean the AFP
- Rubin Sfadj
Animated version http://tinyurl.com/6gg57x
- Oldengrey (Jay)
@RobertHafer, the AFP ran the unedited, doctored satellite photos prior to the war in Iraq.
- Prolific Programmer
Looks like one of their missiles didn't fire!
- Ben Metcalfe
from twhirl
"If you suffer from Ballistic Missile Launch Malfunction, then Misalys may be right for you..."
- Live4Emma (L4S)
5 to 1 they used a pirated copy...they need to download a few Photoshop Podcasts for some tips on cloning...better yet, download "You Suck at Photoshop"...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
That is incredibly disturbing; the Photoshop clone tool will prolly be the cause of the button press on the next significant US-involved conflict.
- Clay Newton
Photography can be a powerful tool and terribly politically influential. I watched a photography documentary recently that cited the famous photo of a buddhist monk lighting himself on fire as the tipping point on the Vietnam involvement with President Kennedy.
- Thomas Hawk
My Dad told me that it was when Cronkite declared the war "unwinnable" after the Tet Offensive that America changed their tune on the war...
- Live4Emma (L4S)
seems the bbc hasnt noticed. now they are showing footage of the missile launch that matches the AP photo and then also different newspaper front pages which published the photos, some using the AFP and others AP, but no mention of this. interesting.
- Katie Ratcliffe
Let's just drop the old one down the memory tubes to get rid of the double-plus-un-true version.
- Nicholas Molnar
Biggest challenge Location Based Services are facing today - http://sachendra.wordpress.com/2008...
Dan Shust liked this
500 electric Minis to go on sale in California - Engadget - http://www.engadget.com/2008...
Adam Turetzky, Dan V, Christian Anderson and 19 other people liked this
I've been wondering when they were going to make a hybrid or electric Mini. Now I know.
- Alan
There was no mention of range or cost in the article. Has anyone seen the specs for these eMini's elsewhere?
- Jeff P. Henderson
I'm also keeping an eye on these recently-unveiled Japanese cars that run on water, sounds promising: http://youtube.com/watch...
- Vincent X
@Vincent, Sounds impossible... They have obviously left out the part where you have to put in a significant amount of energy from some other source to get the hydrogen out of the water to use to power the car. Generating H2 via hydrolysis is very energy inefficient. It would make much more sense to use the 'other' energy source to power the car directly.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I think I might really try to get one!
- Veronica
: ( I wanttttt
- Erhan Erdogan
Jeff: You might be right, I don't know. It's not something I know much about. Here's their website if you want to check it out: http://genepax.co.jp/en/
- Vincent X
We had a note on this (in the Daily Five) today on EcoTech Daily. It looks like Engadget is wrong: the 490 or so electric minis will likely be lease-only, a way for BMW to meet California's new ZEV mandates. The company hasn't announced anything about specs or price yet.
- Chris Baskind
I am actually amazed on how fast this is coming, E-Minis for everyone!
- Rey Ramos
Yeah, electric cars are coming fast, fast, fast. 2010 is the tipping point.
- Chris Baskind
sigh - why do all of these things take so long and seem so out of reach for one reason or another?
- edythe
@edythe: 'Cause we don't want these fancy new electric cars catching on fire? ;-)
- Chris Baskind
Watch oil prices drop and Gas too then the demand for Electric will wane...then the prices climb again...and we are in the same boat.
- Kreg Steppe
Speaking of water-powered cars: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Vincent X
There are some researchers working on a photosynthesis like catalyst for solar assisted hydrolysis that may be effiecent
- Robert Hafer
from fftogo
iPhone App Store is now live in iTunes 7.7.
John Samuelson, Dan Shust, James Kendrick and 12 other people liked this
Left hand side between Audibooks and Radio.There's an ebook reader, Google Mobile and more!
- Steve Rubel
not yet here in Italy :)
- Kurai (ff)
from twhirl
@Jay you can download them but there's no firmware yet.
- Steve Rubel
Federico: I can see it. But I don't have an iPod Touch or an Iphone, alas!
- Zio Bonino
...odd. iTunes update tells me that I have the current verison (7.6.2.9)
- JA Castillo
from twhirl
Zio bonino: WTF? it keeps me saying the store is unavailable...
- Kurai (ff)
from twhirl
@Federico hai aggiornato iTunes alla 7.7? Entra nello store e cerca "App"
- Stefano Mainardi
now it's working. Ebook reader only with ebooks sold through the store? Crazy.
- Kurai (ff)
from twhirl
Current eReader titles / libraries will work with the eReader app. I have five years worth of titles that I've used on Windows / Windows Mobile. They will ALL work with the iPhone app. ;)
- Kevin C. Tofel
I am stoked to find eReader in there. May speed up my iPhone purchase. :)
- James Kendrick
really? How you upload them? Does it read even pdf books?
- Kurai (ff)
from twhirl
@Frederico: your library is stored on the Fictionwise server at all times, so you can just download titles you've already purchased. The app will likely have the eReader store so you can browse, buy and DL new titles. That's how it works on WinMo, so I suspect it should generally be the same.
- Kevin C. Tofel
Kevin, how do we get (existing, purchased) ebooks on to the device though? Any idea?
- John Samuelson
@John, I suspect the eReader app will let you download from your library on the Fictionwise server directly. You can do that on WinMo. I just got confirmation that we have a call with the owner of Fictionwise today so I'll have more info to share. :)
- Kevin C. Tofel
@JA Castillo I saw a Twit that said software updater may not recognize the need for the new version if you're running a beta of iTunes.
- RyanEs
@RyanEs - no beta...all the more confusing if what you say is true.
- JA Castillo
@Kevin thanks. Totally wireless eReader would be awesome.
- John Samuelson
Is the App Store only visible to those with iPhones or a Touch? I have updated to 7.7 and there is no link to the app store that I can see.
- JA Castillo
@JA - go to prefs, General, make sure Applications is ticked.
- John Samuelson
Sign of FriendFeed addiction #98: your Chumby wakes you up in the morning to some great 80's music, and you accidently hit the stop alarm button thinking it's a like button
Tinu Abayomi-Paul, Sarah Perez, Paul Buchheit and 30 other people liked this
I'm glad my Chumby is in the other room. :)
- Tamar Weinberg
tamar you got a chumby? grr i want a chumby!
- Allen Stern
I want a chumby too. $179? Duncan/Tamar -- do you recommend it?
- Robert Seidman
Tamar, you need it in your bedroom, nothing quite like waking up to Club 977 the 80's channel :-)
- Duncan Riley
I just heard about the Chumby last night from @romangarcia of eBay. I heard it's open source. i want it to learn how to read me an ebook at night. :D
- Christine Lu
I use my chumby as a dedicated ff device right next to my big display.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
Robert, as an alarm clock it is rather extravagant, but having said that I use the stream side fairly regularly in bed (for example when reading, on the laptop). the programmable alarm is also very handy as well.
- Duncan Riley
Idk, I dont have a Chumby, hope to get one within the next 4 months though.
- Andrew Fielding
I think it's time you join the FFA: http://friendfeed.com/rooms... :)
- Justin Korn
www.chumby.com
- Oldengrey (Jay)
haha... love that Duncan :-)
- AJ Batac
So, that makes the second person I know who has a Chumby. I'm the first person I know.
- l0ckergn0me
Dunk you did not strike me as the chumby type...
- Dave Gray
Just got awakened by my Chumby. Next, check out ff. Hit the <night> button on my Chumby.
- Henry Burger
10 Light Graffiti Artists and Photographers | WebUrbanist - http://weburbanist.com/2008...
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Kol Tregaskes, Mitchell Tsai, Pete Delucchi and 72 other people liked this
Did you daytime FFers see this? SO awesome
- Mona Nomura
Wow. Some amazing pictures in there. I'll add some on weheartit.com...
- Vincent X
This is absolutely amazing. I wish I could do some cool stuff like this.
- Matt Donders
from twhirl
Amazing!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
That site = WIN
- Mona Nomura
really cool stuff
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
FRESH!
- Darrell Bell
from twhirl
Very inspiring stuff. When you thing all photographs have been made, think again. I especially like the play of the light on the surroundings. Something a Photoshop artist like myself would forget or rush. Wonderfull. I want to make them myself!
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
It was tough choosing the thumbnail images. It's worth the jump to the source :)
- Mona Nomura
nice! thanks to moopz i found this link.
- ~C4Chaos
whoa this is STILL floating around? wow... glad you found it C4Chaos
- Mona Nomura
add "~" = ~C4Chaos...oops
- Mona Nomura
ffffound it
- david medina
hahahahhahha david, you rock
- Mona Nomura
:)
- david medina
The Gen Y Guide to Web 2.0 at Work (presentation) - http://feeds.b5media.com/~r...
Robert Clockedile, Anne Kathrine Petterøe, jkliza and 2 other people liked this
Despite all the hubbub about Blogs 'killing' mainstream media in 2005-2006, most of today's top blogs resemble mainstream media or star columnists. I say that little has changed. Agree or Disagree?
Andy DeSoto, Dan Shust, Mike Repass and 50 other people liked this
I agree...the more we change the more we stay the same. I just think some bloggers are good at not having a political or money agenda which can taint the "realness" of the content. I like how Perez Hilton doesn't hold his tongue at all.
- streetforce1
I would agree that some of the same problems exist in top blogs and top newspapers, there is a check and balance in blogging that works quicker than the newspaper system, but in general, you are spot on.
- Andrew Hyde
Agree ... it takes a little more than a couple years to build the empires that have already been build ... probably isn't even possible
- Nick O'Neill
Didn't it turn out to be Craigslist that has really hurt mainstream media? At least the newspapers. Also Google's growing dominance in advertising. It's not the journalism that's the issue, it's the revenue.
- Todd McKinney
Jeremiah, you're ignoring the fact that many MSM outlets now embrace blogging as well. No one would argue that the two have merged at the top, but it wasn't all in one direction.
- Duncan Riley
Thanks Jeremiah, I've been biting my tongue on this for a week or so now (i'm in the old trad media) now it seems like new media is the trad media which is being pushed aside by the new new media.
- Jon Dillon
Agree. It seems even The Long Tail is losing some of its punch - http://valleywag.com/5020400...
- Justin Gibbs
Agree. Just like TV killed cinema and radio, video/DVD killed TV, music downloads killed the music industry, and the internet changes everything. Each of these provides multiple different functions and experiences to different people in a variety of moods, roles and situations. The various markets will all settle to a new, if more transient, level. There will also be a home for pro versus amateur, more generalised versus niche versions.
- Ronna Porter
Jeremiah, it's true that top blogs become media properties (albeit very niche ones), while (as Duncan said) MSM has been adopting blogs and other social media tools. So there's been movement both ways. I for one never brought into the 'blogs will kill MSM' hype, that's just nonsense. As everything, media has evolved very quickly with the Internet. So I disagree with you a bit there, because *a lot* has changed.
- Richard
It's like how Dave Winer said there's no such thing as a pro-blogger. As far as I can tell the only difference between journalists and bloggers is that journalists are supposed to stick to a code of conduct.
- Stuart Maxwell
They do resemble, but that does mean that are alike. For a start, "commenting" has transformed media into a two way conversation. Whereas "new media" vetures like businessspectator.com.au are like the mainstream media (a comment is treated like a letter to the editor, with my comments moderated because I disagreed with arguments) are a joke, other "new media" like Techcrunch and RWW are...
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- Elias Bizannes
I've said for the past year that it's becoming hard to differentiate "blogs" from other forms of online publishing. We're in big need of a vocabulary overhaul.FWIW, commenting in MSM is rarely two-way communication. It's a way for readers to vent and interact with each other, but MSM publishers and editors rarely get dirt under their fingernails.
- Chris Baskind
Totally agree when you look at blogs like Mashable and TC - sometimes it is hard to sort the advertising from the posts. No offense guys - I know you have to make money - but there are more and more "sponsored posts" and "thanks to this weeks sponsors" etc....
- Dave Gray
a few things. first, sample error. mainstream media has maybe tens of thousands of writers creating columns for newspapers, magazines, journals, etc. the blogosphere has tens of millions. the degree of variation within the blogosphere is enormous. have you seen the recipe bloggers? mommy bloggers? and the children of the blog form, the facebooks and myspaces and tumblrs, are further...
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- Phil Wolff
from Alert Thingy
disagree, my buying practices have definitely changed, I was a two newspaper in the morning and one in the evening guy, I really can't remember the last time I purchased one, I think mainstream media is here to stay but newspapers are definitely on the way out
- Patphelan
If what you're saying is true, then does that mean the Long Tail of blogging isn't very fat? That the Short Snout still reigns? You might be right, but I'd like to know how things look like all along the curve, not just a few crowding the small head. Any numbers?
- phil baumann
next, blogging is a conversational medium. some journalists get that, some don't, and many msm organizations never will. Reading other blogs, linking to them, listening to comments, leaving comments elsewhere, responding to your commenters: these are signs of 'getting it'. to the extent that you see content that looks like a blog post but lacks any connection to the conversation is a sign of damage.
- Phil Wolff
from Alert Thingy
agree
- sam sethi
Last, I'd like to challenge you to put something that you care about but that's off topic in your blog. a poem that touched you. your cat. an opinion about something outside your stated beat. blogging should be about the blogger, otherwise it is reporting in blogging clothes. blogging is a personal and interpersonal medium, so your blog should have a bit of you within it. it's not just...
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- Phil Wolff
from Alert Thingy
It is difficult to move to new modes of discourse. Making them technically feasible doesn't mean they will evolve. It's not just that blogs have replicated msm modes and mannerisms, but those that do not do so - the ones that offer some dislocation, some sense of estrangement, before yielding something special - get less visible as mirroring levels discursive difference.
- tom matrullo
Blogs have given the sources a way to communicate directly without going through the media. There are far more sources of news now than there were ten years ago. "Killing" is almost always the wrong metaphor for competition, But our reliance on MSM today is much less than it was in the past. I don't see the "top blogs" as being blogs at all, they are MSM outlets that use the same CMS software as blogs do. That isn't saying much about them, imho.BTW Phil is right too. :-)
- Dave Winer
media "killing" media rarely happens. We still have movies (some shot digitally), radio (sometimes streamed), television (sometimes on iPhone) , books (sometimes on Kindle). The universe gets more intricate with old and new media supporting, promoting, commenting, and competing. Movies became fodder for Lux Radio Theatre (which is currently still available by podcast). Ad budgets shift. Revenue streams divert. Physical formats become obsolete, but not the content, the audience or the conversation.
- Michael Markman
I think the question misses the point. You're probably right that the "top blogs", whatever they are, resemble mainstream media, but _my_ top blogs give me much more what _I_ want to read than the mainstream media.
- Michael C. Harris
They're not blogs anymore ... I counsel a lot of agencies and I'm telling many of them to view the big boys and girls as MS OnlineMedia: http://www.eyeballeconomy.com/2008...
- David Weiner
Been some press lately about newspapers declining readership and predictions of the death of broadcast television. Let's look at some statistics, but IIRC the trend is DOWN. And where are people spending the time they save? blogs and youtube. You do the math.
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Um. did the hubbub of blogs killing media end in 2006? As far as I can tell, blogs have never stopped proclaiming the death of traditional media by bloggers. They love to say that all the way up until some paper or magazine buys them.
- felix
Is this not just mainstream media switching mediums. What is more interesting is the fringe stuff that would never have been published before. I think that a lot of people are now reading a bit wider range of content. Mainstream media always goes with the lowest common denominator to get maximum audience.
- John Cooper
Mainstream media killed by blogs? No. Mainstream media fundamentally changed by blogs? Absolutely. *Every* major media outlet has a significant online presence featuring a large chunk of their content. Nearly all of them have integrated commenting/discussion, and many of them now have "Digg this"/"Share on Facebook"/etc. While it's not entirely a 2-way street w/outlets like CNN or the NYT, they are clearly being dragged toward interacting with their users, rather than simply broadcasting.
- Pete Brown
Mainstream is intensifying -- cutting newsroom staff, consolidating newspaper chains, etc. -- in the scramble to keep profit margins up as mass media falls into a gazillion pieces. They are not making enough in the online world to keep the mainstream machinery running, and haven't really figured out the formula for online, social media yet. Blogs are one of the many economic challenges they face, as more and more people defect from mass media, and head for the edge, where we are doing it for ourselves.
- Stowe Boyd
Thank you all, I have now collected my thoughts (much based on your comments here) and written this post and pointed back here http://www.web-strategist.com/blog...
- Jeremiah Owyang
if you take the top bloggers/sites, and divide (actual) readership by staff count, it's pretty different from a newspaper...
- Bill Seitz
Agree.
- Robert Scoble
Agree
- Francine Hardaway
Agreed and its entirely changing the business model for news outlets
- Robert
Agree
- Brian Sullivan
Don't underestimate the effects of regression. Over time, the MSM will exert their advantages and become more dominant in the new medium (e.g., 5 of the top 20 Techmeme Leaderboard places are held by MSM entities), and the few independent voices with broad authority will evolve to be more like the MSM (e.g., TechCrunch adapting to the Washington Post).
- Sprague D
I'm not quite sure if I agree or not, but I know I wouldn't really care if mainstream media died out or not. Also, there will always be some type of media that has more viewers/listeners/etc than the others, and thats the one we'll call mainstream.
- The Kid
Facebook 'dipping' craze irks pool owners - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news...
Tyson Key, Ken Booth, STM Tampa and 11 other people liked this
Yes; I've heard about this, people are crazy these days.
- Aaron Myers
from Alert Thingy
Crazy isn't the word I'd use. Disrespectful, careless, self-entitled, irresponsible... Yep, somehow I've become a cranky old bastard. GET AWF MUH LAWN.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Media hype. A made up story.
- Leo Laporte
Back in the 70's and 80's we had to settle for the odd apartment complex or motel and it was always with the sneakers tied-on tightly since we'd be chased out just as quickly as we entered. I've recorded some more thoughts on the subject here: http://snipurl.com/swimkid
- Christopher Harley
I agree with @Leo - this is a made up story. And why are they calling it a "Facebook" craze, when it's Google Maps that makes it possible?
- Rex Hammock
Why is it that only the British flip out over this stuff as full-fledged phenomenon that need to be stopped, probably with more cameras and monitoring of Facebook.
- Andrew Feinberg
yeah, it seems like every other story is fake these days or some kind of viral marking ploy
- Scott Beale
never needed facebook or google maps to do this. In my home town we would gather at a Mcdonalds to review a very good aerial photo that hung on a wall for empty swimming pools in 1975 for skateboarding. The media has nothing better to report on?
- Jerry Schuman
@Rex because Google Maps doesn't have a messaging component?
- Adam Turetzky
Is this a hoax like using Bluetooth to hook up with people on the tube: "toothing"?
- Cote'
And what a great use of technology. I love how people become alarmed when someone utilizes something new for a purpose it's inventor didn't think of and it then upsets people. Sorta like searching Google for phonebooks inadvertently shared online ("phonebook" filetype:xls) or looking for Mac computers with Personal File Sharing turned on by searching the first sentence of the default page that's displayed.
- Adam Turetzky
This sort of thing won't be a problem if not for the fact that if there is a "dipping" party and a drunken idiot drowns, the owner, who didn't want them there in the first place, would be sued. Life would be more fun without the lawyers.
- Robert Hafer
Disrespectful indeed. Wait until the owner has guard dogs.
- Justin Rains
Has Plurk peaked? http://tinyurl.com/5d3wgt
Dave Gray, Svartling, Josh Jenkins and 3 other people liked this
Plurk is a one night stand in Cyberville. I just hope we don't meet in public.
- Russellreno
Agreed, interface is not that great and is way too much hard work in general. I hate the kama aspect, I just don't have time to get more... they lost me. But I have FF :)
- Dave Gray
Has for me. And I'm with Dave: Karma is annoying
- Didi Chanoch
Twitter and Friendfeed's graphs both show downward trending as well...
- Dan Shust
Google Trends stats declining traffic ... see it here --> http://www.google.com/trends...
- Susan Beebe
Plurko.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I can't get the timeline to even show up in FF3 on OSX. Is it just me?
- Daniel Smith
"Web Analytics is like Angelina Jolie: It’s sexy, it kicks butt, and is a goodwill ambassador!!" - http://icitizen04.tumblr.com/post...
Dan Shust liked this
Now that is funny!
- Dan Shust
Wired editor Chris Anderson's latest book proposal would throw scientific - http://feeds.gawker.com/~r...
Dan Shust liked this
Come on- this article has been written with class- how did it slip thru ? :)_
- Peter Dawson
Here is my response to his nonsense http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Krishnan Subramanian
This article clearly shows that he neither understands nor can understand science.
- Krishnan Subramanian
Roger Chen, Tigger, Mitchell Tsai and 10 other people liked this
That eagle shot is amazing
- RAPatton
Waterfalls Display Opens on Harbor - City Room - Metro - New York Times Blog - http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008...
Amanda Mooney, Dan Shust, John Ruth and 38 other people liked this
This is really cool!
- Steve Rubel
from Bookmarklet
nice, wish I was in NYC to shoot this.
- Thomas Hawk
about to walk across the bridge to take some shots...
- Benton
I'm glad that people will be able to take photos of this Olafur Eliasson piece. I thought it was chump that the SFMOMA wouldn't let people photograph his stuff when he showed it here a few months back. Here are the renegade shots I took of his SFMOMA stuff anyways even though photographing it was "forbidden." http://www.flickr.com/search...
- Thomas Hawk
Can't wait to see them lit at dusk, hopefully this weekend @thomashawk - thanks for sharing the renegade shots from MOMA. Looking at Resist the Temptation, not even sure where I would have started with defining the shot. Great depth of field and use of shadows and reflections.
- Barry Graubart
from twhirl
Really excited to go see this. First the telectroscope, now waterfalls!
- Steve Isaacs
Great to see them making art with a redundant sustainable material that is cool and beautiful
- Mark Forman
The (real) falls in Paterson are infinitely cooler, but probably less than 0.5% of New Yorkers have invested the 45 minutes necessary to get out there. So color me not impressed.
- Rob Sterling
The new FriendFeed office
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Nimaa, Nick Mutton, John Lam and 153 other people liked this
Sure, go ahead. Make us all jealous.
- Louis Gray
people no longer sit directly across from each other?
- Zach Landes
Nice to see pool table maintained the box logo theme from yesterday :D
- Mark Forman
Hot dog you guys are doing this the right way!
- Tsega Dinka
Room to grow...nice. Congrats on the move, and good luck over there!
- Jim Stanger
What is the square footage?
- Caleb Elston
Where's my desk? ;)
- xero
xero... Didn't you see it stacked against the far wall? It's the one right under the 63 other empty desks...
- Ross Miller
Ok, I'm jalous. Now what? :)
- directeur
way to go guys, onwards and upwards! good luck! you haven't worked at a real startup unless there is a foozball table or a pool table. looks like you are legit :)
- Ivan Stegic
a malmo chair from ikea! the very same colour as mine!
- Giovanni De Stefano
I like that office, I wish mine was that nice!!
- Paul
I want a job ;-0~
- Chris Spencer
It seems you bought more tables and chairs to hire more hackers. I like how open your office is.
- seman
We actually didn't buy any tables or chairs - they were left here by the last company. We have a table/chair graveyard in the back as a consequence :)
- Bret Taylor
It looks exactly the same as the old office...
- Jini
Niiice..
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
Spacious and Neat.. I like!
- Winston Teo
hey where's the ping pong table? - i like the *blue* pool table, matches blue FF logo colors!
- Susan Beebe
Are you looking for a 44 year-old telecommuting intern by any chance?
- Noah Carter
nice
- Joshua Smith
from twhirl
you know I was kinda expecting the dilbert like cubicles....
- BCK
what, no foosball?
- Jeremy Toeman
i want air hockey! can anyone second this? Still, without walls it's gotta get pretty loud. No privacy...
- Jacob Nahin
Jim, does this one have a massage room?
- Anne Bouey
When will you be hosting "Early Adopter Weekend?" ;-)
- Noah Carter
به این میگن آفیس2!!!
- Business Blogger【ツ】™
and that's office 2.0!!!
- Business Blogger【ツ】™
ok Air hockey with the Robotic arm :)-
- Peter Dawson
Drool
- Benjamin Golub
Sweet, very sweet. Pool is great, but I like office table tennis better.
- Phil G
pretty nice digs, much nicer than any where I have worked
- Rajiv Doshi
blue felt. Oh man. That is so the way to go. Nice!
- felix
Very nice! :)
- TommaSorchiotti
from twhirl
pretty nice...
- Sarath
The red chair is still my favorite, but it looks like I have more seats to try out.
- Amit Patel
On first thought - great Place! I like the open air about it... but on second thought I don't think I can work in such an open space. I just need my personal space.
- Parth Awasthi
Open enough, I like it ;)
- Chris Qie
Good Luck in the new space!
- Charlie Anzman
no way! cool.
- john conroy
Where's the beer fridge?
- Joe Dawson
Well done. Drywall is so passe'.
- MLx
Looks like a University College Student Union Building....
- David W
It's only the start for this great company!!
- Alex Hammer
Looks like your short a few balls.
- Steve C
What monitors do you guys use?
- Bartek Ciszkowski
sweet, but I'd put those pool cues in a cue holder or they will bend stored leaning against a wall...causing bad shots. also sunlight on pool table will cause fading, but you probably will just get a new table eventually w/ all the success! :)
- Pokai
sacrilege to say I think it looks pretty ugly?
- Adam
Where is Yodo?
- Sudha Jamthe
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