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Look, I think flickR should be able to control their network and its content however they wish. But this policy is ridiculous and evil (wiping out all user data and not letting them get it back) and they deserve all the negative press that comes with it, especially when they act like dismissive assholes.
- Anthony Citrano
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Is he the guy that wrote that hilarious exit letter re: silver mining?
- anna sauce
Same dude anna.
- vijay
god, I love Stuart (finally read post) nice way to stand behind your colleague.
- anna sauce
exactly. : ) Title is misleading.
- vijay
I'm not a fan of Flickr but it's hard for me to summon any outrage on behalf of that dick.
- Chester
Check this out.. last line from Johnson- "Ask Heather to fill you in". lol! Credit to Stewart for showing the level of restraint he did.
- vijay
flickr is a great service but their terms of use and the ways they enforce them makes them much bigger dicks than any justifiably irate user. And I am not trying to compliment them. But it's typical corporate internet arrogance.
- Rick Powell
What a great chance to respond to a CR issue without having to represent the company admirably... given a chance to say what he actually felt, I think Stewart's response was maybe not totally called for, but totally funny and he has the right. Way to back up your former peeps too.
- SAM
Well, whatever. I think Stewart is a dick, but far fewer people will read that than have read and will read his e-mail and will make their own minds up.
- Rick Powell
So, if somebody emailed me to ask me to mediate a problem they were having with my former employer, I suspect that my response would both be ruder and shorter.
- Wirehead
I completely agree Anthony, it is unbelievable and I have a Pro account :-|
- Luca Conti
@Wirehead Well, in that case, you, just like Stewart, would be going out of your way to be a dick yourself. All he really needed to write was the first sentence, or not respond at all. But flickr's policy of deleting a user's photos without warning and without appeal, pretty much sums up corporate assholism for me.
- Rick Powell
My capital rules of staying on the internet: 1. be nice. 2. if you can't be nice, be civil. 3. if you can't be civil, be offline. They served me well in the last 15 years. (and - honestly - I trust Heather's judgement in managing communities a wee bit more than a random guy trolling comment threads, being nuked from existence and throwing a tantrum about it)
- dario
There is usually little difference between a nice person enforcing bad corporate policy and a bad person doing it, except for the style in which it's done. Apologies to "Heather," I'm sure, since I don't know her personally. [insert eye rolls here.]
- Rick Powell
this is why i stopped using flikr. They dont CARE.
- Jim Hague
As somebody who manages online communities for a living, I'm going to have to say that the response here was probably the right one (granted I haven't seen the original threads, and he could have afforded to be a little more civil with his language). Trolls live for this shit. And most of them are dicks.
- mike fabio
Troll is a dismissive word, used ubiquitously and uncritically. It's been MY experience that while there are genuine trolls, the word is not infrequently used to dismiss someone who brings up an uncomfortable political issue. No excuse for being a dick, of course.
- Rick Powell
What concerns me in this issue is that if someone at Yahoo decides that they disagree with something I said or the way I said it, they are willing to completely remove my account. It makes me distrustful of the cloud as a place to store my data. With that said, Yahoo was perfectly within their rights to make this move. It just seems like they don't care to engender confidence in the integrity of the data on their servers.
- Scott Ohlemacher
I have wondered if flickr so easily deletes paying customers photos because they have never provided an easy way for anyone to download all of their collection once it's in the cloud. I guess they think, why would anyone want to do that?
- Rick Powell
@Rick Powell: You're right that there is no excuse for being a dick, but dickery is subjective.
- Scott Ohlemacher
And I think deleting a paying customer's photos, even if he violated terms of service, and not the law, for instance, is simply bad corporate policy. That is really being a dick, in my opinion.
- Rick Powell
Amen, Rick, Amen. Perhaps the real issue was that flickr was afraid of losing the White House photostream?
- Scott Ohlemacher
Wow, just wow. Just goes to show you that money (or talent for that matter) and class don't always go hand in hand.
- Alex Scoble
Finally Flickr's actions as Judge, Jury and Executioner in deleting unwanted members is getting some mainstream coverage due to the political angle. Even if some disagree whether it was the correct forum to air his grievances on the WH's detainee photo policy, it appears to have been measured and civil. Certainly not grounds for a non-appealable deletion. So exactly how does Flickr safeguard our photos (i.e. backups), if deleted members cannot be retrieved? Cloud-computing, or merely dust?
- Nils Sandin
Yeah- seems like a draconian move by Yahoo.
- anna sauce
another Community Manager from a different site chiming in... Flickr was totally within their rights to toast this guy *and* his account. The TOS on any site is not just an agreement between a single user and the company with regard to their own content, but also between the community at large and the company that OTHER users will be subjected to the TOS. This guy was spamming and...
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- Edubya
Spam? What exactly was he selling? If I read the accounts right, every American needs to have those pictures shoved under their noses until they wake the frak up. Really, the vagueness in rhetoric that everyone just accepts here is amazing. They were pictures of torture. It was a political protest. Yahoo was certainly within their "rights," although the idea of assigning rights to a corporation makes me queasy, but that doesn't mean I think the world is better off because Yahoo gets to do what it wants.
- Rick Powell
@Edubya They have a right and obligation to uphold their TOS. However, asymmetrical responses like this are not a good way to keep up a good image.
- Scott Ohlemacher
Yeah, this definitely falls under the definition of protected speech in my opinion. Yahoo isn't looking good over this.
- Alex Scoble
"protected speech"? I don't think the constitution said you were guaranteed the right be able to post on flickr. The constitution doesn't mean everyone has to put up with your shit. A political protest in flickr comments is a pretty lazy freedom fighter anyway. That said, wiping out a paying customers stored images without a warning is really messed up, and it seems like they do that quite frequently.
- Richard Lawler
It may not be constitutionally protected speech in this context, but in another it would be. That should at least make Yahoo pause and handle the situation carefully and diplomatically just to avoid the backlash.
- Scott Ohlemacher
The constitution says that political speech is protected. It doesn't specify forum.
- Alex Scoble
I think that Anthony's first comment here sums up the situation admirably. Flickr did something legal that was morally ambiguous.
- Scott Ohlemacher
Just because speech is protect by the constitution doesn't mean that a private service has to allow unfettered expression of it.
- Kevin Pedraja
No, it's not protected speech but it just points out why we can't trust corporations with our data, with anything. They don't give a shit and they don't have to.
- Rick Powell
Ah, I love it when people speak up to defend the rights of corporations! Give them exemptions to all moral obligations! So encouraging for our democracy. Whether or not they have the legal right is irrelevant if we are talking about ethics. This is, however, the kind of culture we have.
- Rick Powell
A rule against spamming comments != a law prohibiting free speech. How is a corporation morally obligated to put up with spammers, no matter what the content is they're spamming?
- Richard Lawler
This may not hold up to scrutiny, but as a publicly traded company reliant on their image to maintain a user base and therefore profits, don't they have an obligation to shareholders to handle situations like this in the most diplomatic way possible?
- Scott Ohlemacher
Sometimes the truth hurts and hearing it from someone you hope will help you hurts even more. I've seen Johnson's trolling and he deserved this treatment, plain and simple.
- Rene Wirtz
Corporations are not morally obligated to do anything. That's the point. That is why they cannot be trusted. Further, I didn't make that equivalency between spam and free speech. You did. Not to mention which the word "spam" is debatable in this case, not least because corporate policies disdain politics, by default, a position which, of course, always favors the powerful.
- Rick Powell
debating whether this is a free speech issue or not is moot. Flickr (or pretty much anywhere else different from your own site) is private property, they have community guidelines which are designed for "the greater good" (which translates nicely to: having the largest number of satisfied users/customers possible). Flickr community guidelines basically boil down to "Behave. If you don't, it may very well be one strike, you're out".
- dario
Rick, not to defend Flickr because I think they've handled this poorly (from a PR point of view if nothing else). But if you sign up to use a service and agree to the TOS, you are voluntarily agreeing to a certain code of conduct. If you violate the TOS, you are subject to the penalties of doing so. Johnson is free to take his protest to another venue. That said, Flickr could be a bit more accommodating and give the guy his images back.
- Kevin Pedraja
and yes, losing your stuff sucks bad, and yes, they probably should implement some sort of "pre-ban" which lets you download your content back on - say - a two weeks notice before the termination of your account.
- dario
Is it an appropriate solution for us to "vote with our eyeballs" and boycott the service until they change some of these policies in a public way?
- Scott Ohlemacher
Peeps, the First Amendment protects you against government action. You have no constitutional right to a flickR account. There's a difference between saying "flickR sucks for doing this" and "flickR has no right to do this." They certainly do have a right to do it, and I have a right to think they're assholes because of it. But I guess that's what I said initially (sorry.)
- Anthony Citrano
@Kevin Have you read the TOS lately? Do you know what NIPSA means? I certainly don't know, after reading it a dozen times. Their TOS is not as arcane, opaque and just plain retarded as ebay's, which must set some sort of record in the history of incomprehensible corporate jargon, but it's not exactly transparent. I think they can ban me if they want. But after accepting my money and...
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- Rick Powell
also, on the "morally reprehensible" issue: this has nothing to do with ethics. Turning over your users' personal data to the chinese government IS unethical, and still, as a publicly shared company, you have to answer to your shareholders first, which might -or might not- be interested in your moral high ground
- dario
@dario What you described is why, in my youth, I believed in economic democracy, which, I think, only the Zapatistas actually advocate now.
- Rick Powell
I think you people are confusing how the flickr software is presently implemented with an arbitrary policy decision. This is common with people who don't know what they are talking about but like to sound like they do. I twittered this on Tuesday... unless you've actually hacked big software that runs on large server farms, STFU about how you'd change how a large website that runs on large server farms would work.
- Wirehead
Oh, I love that one! Technological barriers, the last refuge of the nihilist. Give me a frakin break. This thread has seen it all, right? First-name dropping, specious arguments about the rights of corporations, equating speech with spam, and now claiming the high ground for those who "have hacked big software." I believe I'll have another beer and thank the gods I have never been anywhere near large server farms. Big cow farms, yes.
- Rick Powell
Anthony...I agree. Chalk it up to another Festivus miracle, my friend! lol
- Carlton Hackett
@Wirehead That was needlessly vitriolic. Couldn't be civil and say something like "There are technological limitations related to policy implementation in communities of this size" rather than making assumptions about the skills and experiences of the people in the discussion and then disparaging them? You didn't contribute to this conversation at all, you detracted from it. @everyone else: sorry for feeding the troll.
- Scott Ohlemacher
Dude, I'm just stating an unpleasant truth. But it's very popular amongst people with a little grain of knowledge to assume that they can apply this everywhere. Do I sit here and make suggestions for how cattle ranchers might improve production? No, because I recognize that I don't know a damn thing about cattle ranching and would probably suggest something really stupid.
- Wirehead
On that note, I'm going to go have a beer and watch the hockey game.
- Scott Ohlemacher
I'm a bit sad that Mr. Johnson lost all his pictures. (Rule 1: always make backups!) But the more I hear about his one-man crusade, the more I agree with Stewart Butterfield's assessment. There are right ways to get one's message out, and wrong ways. Mr. Johnson thought his cause was so noble, his message so urgent, that the normal rules didn't apply to him. Alas for his 1200 pictures, he was wrong.
- Pat Rice
@Pat I would guess that a large percentage of the world's dissidents would say that the normal rules don't apply to them, and they would be right, else they would not be dissidents. As for your comment, your rhetoric is precious (alas? a bit sad?) and your argument, if I can call it that, empty. Anyone else?
- Rick Powell
Alex: The constitution defines how government must act. The speech is protected from the government squelching it. No private company is obligated to allow anyone to speak in any way other than the way it wants. Period. The constitution does not give you the right to make the New York Times print anything and everything you want, nor does it give you the right to make flickr do it either.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Most law, and most particularly, the Constitution points back to principles that Dick Cheney, among others, refers to as "quaint," but that doesn't mean they're not valued or have no value, or don't constitute, get that word, the basis for understanding moral behavior. Most citizens understand this. Corporations, unique in history we will eventually realize, are somehow allowed to opt...
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- Rick Powell
Big, scary, god-like (it's a technology, Captain, but none like we've ever seen) server farm or not, I expect backups have to be available. Maybe only for a week (I think that's how long I was told Sprint's picture mail server kept backups), but for some period of time.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
See, you are just proving my point, BoringMage. There is a difference between backups and restoring deleted accounts. Given the expected failure rate of disk drives, if flickr didn't keep backups, you'd know. :)
- Wirehead
Flickr could disable the account and prevent harmful activity without deletion of customer data, and that is what they should be doing in these cases. This is more about consumer rights than freedom of speech.
- Mike Chelen
I'm afraid it cannot be "protected speech" if you spam the same comment 10, 20 more times on individual pictures. Then it becomes heckling. These are the flickr terms: "Don’t vent your frustrations, rant, or bore the brains out of other members. Flickr is not a venue for you to harass, abuse, impersonate, or intimidate others. If we receive a valid complaint about your conduct, we’ll...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
If they did warn him and he kept spamming, then he deserved what happened. If he didn't back up his own data after being warned and continued doing the same thing, who can he blame?
- Richard Lawler
Jeez, I keep commenting, since so many people find so many creative or not-so-creative ways of avoiding the real points. There is no easy way to back up one's flickr collection, which in some cases involves clicking twice for each photo - which can run into thousands of clicks. If you knew what you were talking about, then you would already know this. flickr's API does not allow...
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- Rick Powell
Yes, we've heard your opinion Rick. That's great. It still doesn't justify the guy's behavior. It doesn't entirely pardon flickr, and I don't think anyone is, but he made his choice.
- Richard Lawler
Well, Richard, if anyone had actually heard my opinion then they would comment as if they understood the contents of my opinion, which you clearly haven't. I have not made justifications about his behavior, mostly because I really don't fully know the extent and content of his behavior. Do you? Perhaps you can fill us all in? It seems clear he was obnoxious, as many people are who want...
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- Rick Powell
Rick, I am not sure about your point - in order to upload to Flickr you need to have the image in the first place, so the assumption is you still have the originals and could re-upload to a new account (I certainly have my images on 2 drives here plus several places online). If you somehow lose the originals you should take copies back out of Flickr immediately, not rely on Flickr (or anything) as your sole copy. PS: have you tried http://www.ghacks.net/2009...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Congratulations, Joelle, your life is a lot more stable than mine was. I started uploading to flickr when I was homeless and had no computer of my own. Borrowed cameras, with personal images, and gift memberships from readers of my blog. This year will be the first time I have to decide whether to flip the bird to flickr or pay up. 4 years of connections, not to mention photos. Not an...
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- Rick Powell
Just for the purpose of backup perhaps you can switch the images from private to public (but w. adult warning to avoid people being offended) - run the backup, then change it back? Just circumvent the system temporarily so you have your images at least! I totally agree with you that the feeling that the plug can be pulled under you is an uneasy one, but the cases where flickr has done...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
You have totally disarmed me. ;-) I will think about trying that, and any indie, open, distributed options you have would be welcome.
- Rick Powell
I have a lot of thoughts on this as some might expect. May have to break them down into a few posts. I saw this letter from Stewart well before it appeared in Valleywag. It first appeared in the DeleteMe Uncensored group that I admin on Flickr. My first problem with the letter is that I don't think Shepherd should have posted it there or anywhere at all. It was private correspondence...
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- Thomas Hawk
Had Shepherd asked Stewart for permission to post it and Stewart said yes I think that'd probably be ok then. But I don't think Shepherd did that and I don't think Stewart gave permission for it to be published. While I support Shepard's fight against Flickr, I did tell him that I didn't think it was right that he published this email. I know that I personally won't publish emails...
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- Thomas Hawk
Stewart and Heather are friends so I'd think it fair to assume that he'd stick up for Heather in this case without admittedly knowing many of the specific details. I think a lot of us might as our first reaction stick up for our friends. Unfortunately, I think Stewart's response turns this debate more into a personality thing than it should be. I think there are three problems with the way that Flickr handled the Shepherd Johnson case.
- Thomas Hawk
1. Obama campaigned on a platform of transparency in Govt. Deleting critical comments is not transparency. Obama is using social media to enhance his transparency. Deleting critical comments doesn't add much to his credibility in that department. This is not an Obama campaign photostream. It's the official Whitehouse photostream produced by your and my tax dollars. The Obama...
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- Thomas Hawk
2. Shepherd Johnson should not have had his account deleted over the comments that he posted. He linked to a photo (not his but from another photostream as allowed by flickr that was also nuked) depicting detainee prison abuse with a message protesting Obama's support of a new law to suppress additional photos from being released. Of all speech political speech should be given the...
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- Thomas Hawk
3. Flickr should not be deleting *any* accounts permanently and irrevocably. To be so arrogant that they would assume that they will never make a mistake in an account deletion is mind numbing. The fact that they refuse to address this issue and simply dismiss anyone who suggests otherwise is an equally horrible position of arrogance. Instead Flickr should change their policy with...
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- Thomas Hawk
+++ @TH
- Nils Sandin
Scott, this is not just about a Flickr account deletion. According to Shepherd, Heather was not aware of some of the comments that were deleted on the President's stream. The only way those comments could have been deleted (if not by flickr) would have been by Shepherd himself or someone who controls the President's stream. I've personally written to the White House on it and posted a...
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- Thomas Hawk
And there is no political bias on my part in this one. I voted for Obama and support him as my President even if I might not vote for him again. I'm a Democrat who believes strongly that censorship is wrong, even if it's done by a popular Democratic President.
- Thomas Hawk
Political speech does not and should not deserve a wider berth if the guy was breaking the rules. That should be entirely content agnostic.
- Richard Lawler
When are you going to realize that Obama and Bush policy wise are one and the same?
- John Blanton
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Richard, the problem with that position is that the "rules" at flickr are very, very subjective. According to Shepherd, Heather told him his account was deleted because he posted a link to a detainee abuse photo and because he was "spamming" flickr, and yet Heather refused to define what "spamming" was and there is definitely no specific rule about not linking to detainee abuse photos....
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- Thomas Hawk
so in Flickr's subjective implementation of their rules? Yes, I do think that political speech should be given a wider berth. Not directly relevant, but U.S. Courts have consistently given political speech a wider berth when dealing with First Amendment issues.
- Thomas Hawk
If you think flickrs rules are bad then thats great, but its not censorship for them to have and enforce rules on their own website.This is not a first amendment issue and flickr shouldn't treat it as one, that amendment does not give you the rights being implied here. If your Dad sent a complaint to flickr about you posting his photo and you continued to repost it, then sure your stream should be deleted.
- Richard Lawler
Richard it is actually censorship if Flickr deletes an account. It might not be Govt. censorship (which also may or may not have taken place in this case). Censorship doesn't have to be Govt sponsored to be considered censorship. It may be *justifiable* censorship to you but it is still censorship.
- Thomas Hawk
No, it's censorship if they remove it because of the content, which is exactly why whether it is political speech or not should never come into play.
- Richard Lawler
Moral of the story: Don't be a dick.
- © b e e n s w a n k
Richard, Flickr did remove Shepherds account because of content. That's exactly why his account was deleted. Content of an image (detainee torture abuse) and content of his words (protesting the Obama administration) that they called spam but would not define.
- Thomas Hawk
You've decided it was the content based on their lack of a hard definition for spam, but that doesn't make it so. What he was doing doesn't serve for justification for how he went about doing it.
- Richard Lawler
Not sure anyone in this long thread has corrected the assumption that this is "censorship." Censorship is inherently a government act. If it's not an act of government, by definition, it isn't censorship.
- Jon Lebkowsky
At least, if you folow the strict, original defnition of the term. There's a huge issue here, but I don't see it as an issue of censorship.
- Jon Lebkowsky
Censorship by any definition is anyone preventing anyone else from fully using our right to free speech. .this is censorship of the worst kind.
- John Blanton
from twhirl
Jon: Censorship is not limited to government accts. Your confusing "censorship" with "government censorship," a common mistake that people make. Since you mention the definition of the term, check out the definition in the dictionary. Richard, according to Shepherd, his account was deleted in part for the photo and in part for what they call spamming (without any notice or warning I...
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- Thomas Hawk
Again, you have a right to free speech in /public/ - Flickr is a /private/ place. Just as you can dictate the speech that goes on in your own home, so can Flickr in their message boards. It may be censorship, but it is not infringing on your right to free speech We are all free to bitch about Flickr in public. So's the guy they dumped. Flickr is free to censor any damn thing they like...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
It is censorship, but it's perfectly legal and "fine" for them to do, however offensive and inadvisable it may be
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob, I've never said his speech on Flickr is protected. I've never said that what Flickr did her was illegal. Flickr can censor me for wearing a green shirt if they want to. Nobody's disputing that. I'm saying it's bad policy and as one of the most active community members who has put thousands of hours into the site and thousands of pieces of content into the site, I think their...
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- Thomas Hawk
I do wish actually though that the White House would in fact address the question of whether or not they censor comments on their own Flickrstream. I think it's a fair question in light of Obama's oft promised new "transparency" in Govt.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas: no you never said any of those things. And i have to agree that it's bad policy. I think in general censorship sucks no matter who does it. And definitely I think you're correct that the Obama Administration should address that question. It's a fair question regardless of promised "transparency" - it's a fair question because it is OUR government. (of, for, and BY the people, right?)But, we've sen on several occasions already that the Obama White House cannot & will not live up to it's promises.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
If this is just a debate over corporate policy, then perhaps we ought to stop slinging around emotionally-charged & easily-misconstrued words like 'censorship'. Calling it censorship implies that it's a First Amendment, freedom-of-speech issue. It isn't. P.S. To Rick Powell: nice ad hominem there.
- Pat Rice
Thanks Pat :) Well said.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Pat, calling it *government* censorship (which in fact may or may not have taken place here) implies that it's a First Amendment freedom-of-speech issue. Calling it censorship is simply stating what it is. If FriendFeed decided to delete a user's account for posting images of prison detainee abuse that would also be censorship. Fortunately for all of us, Friendfeed doesn't seem to be...
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- Thomas Hawk
It does suck, but we do have to remember that this type of censorship is also an exercise of freedom as well. No matter how much it sucks, it is Flickr's right to do it. (no matter how bad it is for their users, or their own company it's still their right -we are all free to engage in our own stupidity) "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -Voltaire
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
If I paint my message on the side of the Washington Monument, and the National Park Service sends somebody to wash it off, is that censorship?
- Pat Rice
"I will defend your right to say it" indeed - but I won't defend your right to yell it, say it over and over right in someone's face, or heckle in a public space. And I wont defend your right to say it by force to people who dont want to hear it. None of these are free speech - As soon as your speech infringes on the free speech or freedom of others, it's no longer free speech. If...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Sorry, Joelle, I can only say you've never encountered an issue where your passion and your politics overrode your sense of propriety, (I have) because that is what you are talking about now. Unless you have suddenly become a public figure at the level of the President of the United States. Free speech as a right protects us against the government, not against corporate assholes, which...
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- Rick Powell
Social Network Analysis: An Introduction (pdf) - http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellma... (via http://friendfeed.com/50761e9...)
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- BraGiu aka Beppe Bravi
Great introduction, easy to understand
- Gianluigi Cuccureddu
Google Wave Questions and Answers [Google Wave] - http://lifehacker.com/5288931...
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I know I am not supposed to lust after women...but the Bible says nothing about lusting after technology.
- eEditor
can't wait...
- Alfonso Pace
Wonder where Google Wave will bring business and the way business is conducted.
- Gianluigi Cuccureddu
Betelgeuse supernova could appear in sky any day. - http://xenophilius.wordpress.com/2009...
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From Xenophilia: "The star Betelgeuse might someday appear as a spectacular explosion in our sky, a supernova. Brad Schaefer is an astronomer in Baton Rogue, Louisiana. He said Betelgeuse could become a supernova any day now. Brad Schaefer: For all we know, Betelgeuse has just gone supernova. Betelgeuse is about a thousand light years away. So if Betelgeuse has gone supernova anytime in the last thousand years, the light of this supernova explosion could be speeding to us even as we speak – maybe it will arrive tonight – and suddenly Betelgeuse will flash into being brighter than a million full moons in the sky – all up above us. It would be a spectacular sight."
- Mark Trapp
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Hoping hoping hoping hoping!
- Mark Traphagen
It'd be impossible to tell if it'll happen in our lifetimes, but I think the 15% shrinkage is a good sign it's going to happen soon. I really hope it happens in my lifetime: I'd love to see that.
- Mark Trapp
How long would that last?
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Depends. I was lucky enough to see the 1987A supernova, and that lasted about a week. The remnants would last for thousands of years, but viewable only via telescope. There are only a couple of observed supernovae in the records.
- Mark Trapp
Stars don't work on our timescales. :)
- Michael McKean
That picture hurts my eye.
- Rochelle
This is the light curve for 1987A: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... According to it, it took about 274 days for it to no longer be visible to the naked eye under perfect conditions (Apparent Magnitude 6-6.5).
- Mark Trapp
My guess is that it will happen around the end of December in 2012 and mass hysteria will result. That, and the Singularity. It's all good.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
@Lindsay - good one!
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
You know, I was thinking not very long ago how I wonder if I'll see a nearby supernova in my lifetime. Not too likely given that the last one was centuries ago... but I can dream.
- Wirehead
Wirehead: 1987A was the last one visible to the naked eye (which, of course, happened in 1987). Prior to that it was Kepler's Supernova in 1604. Here's the list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Mark Trapp
Telescopic supernovae are fairly common, though.
- Michael McKean
I know that. What I want to see is something more akin to SN 1054. Preferably also not close enough to actually zap us.
- Wirehead
Oh great. Just what I needed to worry about now. Another martini, please!
- Joseph Urban
from twhirl
Nothing to worry about, Joseph: unless you have a phobia of well-lit nights. We're too far away and the axial tilt of Betelgeuse is far enough off that we'd miss any bad effects like gamma ray bursts. If you're around when it happens, just enjoy the show.
- Mark Trapp
Wow, is Google going real time already? The conversation I just started is already in Google: http://www.google.com/search...
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I heard people comment on all the Twitter & FriendFeed real-timeness, pointing out that Google is fast too. But maybe they are just crawling FF and Twitter to look real-time?
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Ruud: friendfeed items get ranked higher in Google. I've seen that happen a LOT.
- Robert Scoble
I noticed the same thing on Mahalo Answers. In less then half an hour the question shows up in Googles search results. Google is just crawling really fast.
- arjo
Google was really slow earlier today with the Jay Bennett/Wilco news. Couldn't find anything on Google, it was all over Twitter for hours before it showed in Google.
- Karoli
Maybe the FF structure or API (and from Mahalo and the likes) makes it extremely easy to index for Google, so Google is actually preying on the smart systems of others to be sort-of-real-time?
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
They've gotta do something :)
- Mike van der Eerden
Well, THIS conversation isn't in Google...yet...
- John E. Bredehoft
Actually this conversation is on Google already. If you search for "Wow, is Google going real time already?" it's there.
- Charbax
Since Friendfeed provides a real-time API, why wouldn't Google basically store a searchable copy of all of Friendfeed on their index?
- Charbax
Charbax: not to mention that friendfeed is more SEO friendly. The URLs here have keywords in them. I'd expect that from a team of Google superstars.
- Robert Scoble
Do you really think Google's entire search engine can transform into real-time...I think it would take at least 3 years, if at all. Friendfeed engine is very friendly but substantially smaller, with only minor queries compared to the big ones. Google might improve its integration system but the path to a frienfeed real-time module looks much longer than expected.
- Nir Ben Yona
I think the structure of Google, and all old skool search engines (searchword to your mother!), are not compatible with real time data gathering. Their bots would probably slow down the whole web if they were everywhere all the time. The nothing will be real-time anymore...
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
A screen shot of Google - http://ff.im/3dYwy
- Brent - Loving Life
Rather than thinking "the burden is on Google to spider the web in real-time" think "clever sites with active communities can help Google give the appearance of real-time web search." I don't think people blog in real-time, but they do in the aggregate, and some sites do better than others in helping out the "spiders."
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Strangely, Robert's search link doesnt have a single entry from Twitter...atleast in first 3 pages i checked.
- Roshan Ramachandran
Roshan, look at first link in the screen shot I captured right above - It shows a twitter reference ... Its a direct link to his twitter page ...
- Brent - Loving Life
It makes sense since this item originated over on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
The other one is mostly showing friendfeed, because that conversation started on friendfeed. Interesting how Google works.
- Robert Scoble
I just posted a shot with the omitted searches brought back in - very interesting ... http://ff.im/3dZRz
- Brent - Loving Life
http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/activit... - this is getting a little weird. Here there is a link to yoiur twitter page which is alright, but then all the friend feed chat is below your Link ... WTF? and it is in real time ... Ok apparently this guy is taking a major chunk of FF Feed and posting it on his blog in real time. I'm not sure, but it sure seems like plagerisim to me ...
- Brent - Loving Life
I agree with Ruud, Google indexing social media sites (as well as links) is an effective way to appear real-time, as they are already where most of the action happens anyway. Some sites are always more likely to contain current content while others are a waste of resources to crawl more than once a month.
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Try anything - A blog, Flickr, Google is on it
- Brent - Loving Life
I imagine google could also identify frequently updated sites by making notes about how often each site is updated, each time the bot passes through. Then send the bots to rapidly index sites with a high real-time score. It could be a self-adjusting process that would ensure no resources are wasted rapidly scanning static sites.
- Raj Advani
exactly Raj, it's a constantly self-adjusting algorithm that can distinguish sites that are "static" or "dynamic" or "should be dynamic but aren't at the moment" (i.e. tube blockage) - and also perhaps predict spikes and schedule the site's time slot for the best spidering payoff.
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Adding the Greasemonkey script "Twitter Search Results on Google" combined w/ an advanced Google search makes good comparison
- Mike Elliott
I think this is funny/cool - I don't normally see my stuff show up for a while but to have it show up as quick as it did is interesting. That was a fun conversation last night - I love Web 2.0
- Robert Freeze
Yeah! It seems like they've tweaked their servers to hunt after these realtime mirco-blogging sites.. Even, Tweets are showing up early like never before. :)
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
Hey Robert, yes it seems so. Great progress
- Gianluigi Cuccureddu
It hasn't come up in the discussion yet, so I'll mention ... is it possible that many of you are getting unrepresentative results, if you have recently visited a site, and you then Use Google to search for keywords or phrases. Google may be returning results to YOU, individually, more quickly, by using your recent browser history to return customized Search Results based on sites recently visited.
- Gary Etie
... Also ... I get Google Alerts, via Gmail, 10 minutes after posting to my blog, if the post contains Google Alert search terms that I monitor. Getting a Google Alert, 10 minutes after a self-hosted, WordPress Blog Post brings other factors into the "real time search" discussion, like the affect of "Notifications" that go out to Google, MSN, Yahoo, etc., via WordPress Plug-Ins, as soon...
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- Gary Etie
Gary: Google treats everything as equal. It's highly unlikely that they are customising search results well not yet anyway - this will affect their algorithims. I think Google are just weighting the content on FriendFeed / Twitter more important by indexing the /everyone feed every five minutes or so instead of daily etc (which can be set by a webmaster via webmaster tools and a sitemap.xml ;))
- Nicholas James
Really? Google doesn't customize Search Results to the individual user, based on browsing history?
- Gary Etie
Search Wiki is be customized (although the user is editting the results themselves) other then that users are treated the same.
- Nicholas James
Its not just searchwiki that's customized and adding &pws=0 does not come close to removing all customization.
- Ryan Underdown
from fftogo
I posted an entry on my blog ( http://austincitypermits.com/blog... ) with the words "Current Google Gap in Real Time Search" in the title. Time stamp - May 26, 2009 @ 21:40. I'm going to Search Google periodically, to see how quickly it gets indexed, and post the timestamp of the Google Alert I receive.
- Gary Etie
Can you tell me why "real-time" search is good?
- Jason Nunnelley
I believe it's good for everyone in case you happen to be looking for the information. It's good for Google because if they can't do real time then the twitter search and everyone elses search that does will dominate more and more.
- James Stratford
Googles plan of Real Time Search at the moment is linking to the conversation...we'll see this shift eventually.
- Nicholas James
Jason read: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
- Nicholas James
Time stamp - blog post - May 26, 2009 @ 21:40 .... Time stamp - Google Alert - "austin city permits" - Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:52 PM - That took 12 minutes.
- Gary Etie
A normal Google Search already has the post at #1 position, due to exact wording. It took me 30 minutes to get back and do a search, and it was already up at 22:10 PM CST ... http://www.google.com/search...
- Gary Etie
Robert - I've done a few blog posts on this. I call it 'hyper-indexing' ... and they've been doing it on select blogs for over a year (A lot of blogs ....)
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie - That's precisely what I'm attempting to point out. My blog is not select, by any means, and I get a Google Alert within 10 - 12 minutes after a post, and the post shows up in Google Search results within 30 minutes.
- Gary Etie
equal is not good ,but snap internet in 1s is cool
- qian
Yes I have noticed this too in the last few days
- Nova Spivack
so that explains why I got so many vanity google alerts today.
- Peggy Dolane
How addicted are you to the web? - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
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Not at all.
- Louis Gray
i thought that was you at first Louis in that first pic! :)
- Zee.
haha...good stuff!
- Mike Bracco
in case you folk didn't know - there's in depth article beyond the photos :)
- Zee.
The photos are too depressingly awesome though!
- Mike Lewis
I can give it up anytime I want!
- Alex Scoble
i am usually only on the computer 30 min or so a day. im good!
- (jeff)isageek
that is SO not true Jeff.. :P Are you serious??
- Zee.
This entire way of thinking drives me batty (yes, I read it.) The idea that "web use" and "work" are mutually exclusive; that using the web is "play". We could just as uselessly ask: Are you addicted to magazines? Paper? Pens? Filing cabinets? Phones? Addicted to social interaction? Corporate structure? Are you addicted to news? Entertainment? Etc.
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
thanks for reading Anthony :) I think its my own fault for putting the three images in here... :P
- Zee.
For once, I agree with Anthony. The use of the web and technology is just part of life. I'm equally "addicted" to oxygen, food, and my family.
- Rochelle
agreed Rochelle, but when at work - it's a different story no? I mean as an employer, would you be cool with seeing your staff actively use Twitter and/or Friendfeed etc..?
- Zee.
I'm not demanding full augmented reality yet, but where the hell are my WiMax-connected HUD glasses? I should be able to query Google while negotiating stairs and heavy pedestrian traffic and so forth...
- Christopher A Carr
I can't live without air. That doesn't mean I'm addicted.
- Peter
I'm not addicted. Although what I would say is that the internet has provided a new medium to connect and find services in a more convenient manner
- Nicholas James
Same here, it's work, entertainment, a source of news and information, I pay my bills, do my food shopping, communicate with people, listen to music and so much more. It's not an addiction but it's a tool which allows me to do things I want and need to do.
- M F
I think these guys need an iphone. lol
- Randy Allen Bishop
The windows mobile allows internet surfing from the mobile, I guess the iphone does it also.
- TrafficBug
@zee: but what you just said to rochelle perpetuates this myth - so i ask again - how is the web incompatible with "work" ? i've hired and managed countless people and i'd no more consider removing the web from their workday than I would pens or telephones. would you let your staff use telephones? this was a serious line of discussion in the 50s amongst "managers": "can we trust...
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- Anthony Citrano
I suffer the corporate fate of (no)Websense and find it interesting how companies draw the line on certain types of websites, that actually can be relevant to their day-job. It's not a black and white situation. Sure there are exceptions that can be made for valid business reasons, but it's just all too much of a hassle.
- Paul M Evans
最后一张是板凳？
- K.D.
Paul - a company either trusts their employees or they don't. If they don't, then the company has far bigger problems than what web sites people are visiting...
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
Tasteless photos! An eMachine!?This was once a family friendly site. Shame on you!
- Danny Minick
from BuddyFeed
I'm not addicted to the Internet - it is addicted to me!
- Jemm
SOMESSO London 09 presos now on Slideshare - http://somesso.com/blog...
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Great SlideShare!
- Gianluigi Cuccureddu
School 2.0: TweetDeck vs. Seesmic Desktop - http://schoolsocialmedia.blogspot.com/2009...
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What are other key differences between Tweetdeck and Seesmic Desktop?
- Gianluigi Cuccureddu
Ning: The future of online social networking? - CNN.com - http://edition.cnn.com/2009...
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Ning adapts the niche-market thought beautifully.
- Gianluigi Cuccureddu
Do you Poken? Click here to see a Poken in action and learn more about how business cards might go away:
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http://wwww.doyoupoken.com is what you're looking at. Here the founder, Stephane Doutriaux is demonstrating them.
- Robert Scoble
My Poken is the pink one. You hold it against his. They automatically have "poken sex" and trade your information, which you can then see up on the DoYouPoken website. Very cute and would have saved me a lot of money in scanning business cards in.
- Robert Scoble
That is, if everyone had them. Right now they are too expensive to go really viral, though.
- Robert Scoble
Most stupidest thing ever IMHO.
- Peter Kruit
Robert, I have one. I agree with You, too expensive (15 euro each one)
- Luca Conti
I can't wait until these are cheap and available to everyone, which hopefully will be soon.
- Trish R
12 of them costs about $189, which is way too much. If they can get the cost down to $1 or $2 a piece, then I could see them taking off. Until then, they are fun game if you get one for free at a conference or something like that.
- Robert Scoble
in italy poken is amazing and overbooked !!!!
- michele ficara
This is hilarious! Poken sex is better than no sex! I actually heard something about the iphone app that sort of does this by exchanging info as you get close to another iphone user who also has the app. I do think physical cards will go away.
- Sheryl
I would get one seems like fun
- Matt Bebich
probably wont catch on here in the states, but cool idea
- sean percival
It's a cool technology, though, and lots of fun to do at a conference if everyone has them (they are building them into badge holders, too).
- Robert Scoble
Way too expensive, and would you really ask a client "Do you Poken"?
- Bruce Fraser
Pondering Facebook pokes in a whole new unhealthy way...
- Ken Camp
They need to make one of those with "The Big Blue Monster" from GapingVoid on them :)
- Sean Kearney
If I asked questions like that in some of the pubs I go to it would be the last question I asked :-)
- Gordon Wheeler
What happens if someone just walks by and they have one do they automatically get your information
- Matt Bebich
Gordon: I wouldn't advise using that as a pickup line! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Matt: no. They have to touch to exchange information.
- Robert Scoble
I have one but at the moment not so many people have a Poken!
- Michela Cimnaghi /cimny
Oh, and they have "executive" versions coming out that don't look cartoonish.
- Robert Scoble
Sean, when they go down in price, they will totally catch on in the U.S. I went to a conference here in Houston where your badge was also a thumb drive with everyone's contact info on it and we were talking about how handy these will be when people are using them.
- Trish R
embed this tech into a mobile and you have a winner
- Richard Spalding
I just checked them out... The price for one isn't ridiculous. Under $20. I've spent more on memory keys and Walkie Talkies in the past. :)
- Sean Kearney
Consider the cost of a box of business cards before saying these are too expensive. Richard +1
- Justin Hopkins
Business cards can be used with everyone, these things can't (yet) Cards are still king.
- Bruce Fraser
I thought you couldn't buy them individually yet.
- Trish R
I like the idea. It's definitely neat. I would pay for a "Poken" with a custom logo on it. It definitely is unique.
- Sean Kearney
FireBox sell then here in the U.K.
- Bruce Fraser
This won't even last as long as sending vcards via IR.
- Hartley Spurlock
Would love to have one but can imagine me never encountering anyone to Poken in my world. At least not in the near future.
- suecosby
We do Poken Robert! And we also organized a Poken Party for the launch of the new FIAT 500 Cabrio in Milan: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Marco Massarotto
If they are going to replace business card maybe they should not make them look like something that comes with a Happy Meal.
- Brendan Clancy
Maybe they should give them away with Happy Meals, then we'd all have one...
- Bruce Fraser
There are new models coming that look very "executive."
- Robert Scoble
And if they really went viral, and someone Pokened profligately and started spreading PSTDs that ruined your Poken's ability to replicate...
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Scoble: $1 or $2? $10 seems worth it, the savings in business cards alone could justify the expense. executive would be a plus... (i'm picturing a monkey in a suit.)
- Marco
Saw these about six months ago and thought it was a fart in the wind. Can't believe this is still around.
- Chris Menning
I'm all for adding a bit of fun to productivity. We take ourselves so freaking seriously all the time. This seems like a useful step away from somber zombiefication. Now for the corporate types who want faceless uniformity, surely custom Poken with suitably unremarkable appearances and all the functionality could become reality. Am I FFing myself out of my next job? Maybe I should go for a ride.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Robert -- i've got a cute little Geisha girl one. They're up to cool stuff. The cool thing is, the info isn't stored so if you lose it, you don't give up info. It's just an exchange of ID's. I love them. Ok, i'm partial. Had dinner with Renate and she rocks. Don't write cuteness off just yet guys. They're up to stuff. :)
- Christine Lu
I have one, KPMG gave some Poken at a professional forum for my school. I think, there are two problems. First it really doesn't look business, but as you said, a business version is coming. And, it only works with another poken, it should works with Iphone or blackberry using the bluetooth and a free application we can download for Iphone or Blackberry.
- tristan
I still have a few Pokens that I'm willing to give away... Read: http://www.aadjemonkeyrock.com/2009...
- Aad 't Hart
Yeah, I still remember when Palm's IR beaming was going to kill business cards...
- Joel Bennett
This is the most bizarre idea I have ever heard of, but I like it. I doubt this will ever catch on though, unless it becomes cheaper and more "professional". I can't see cute little avatars being taken seriously in real world business.
- Angus Burton
they could be free and then it would be possibile to buy and exchange virtual goods. I do not see any future for business card: it is something that you can do with your mobile phone and I wonder why it is not yet implemented in the address book.
- Nicola Mattina
Really strange idea to replace personal cards...
- Marcos Vicente
you can get them in States at www.startpoken.com
- Roger Huitt
Mobile phones need to adopt/embrace this technology. I think it'll be a hit.
- Richard Merritt
There's also an app that does this for the iPhone... http://www.bumptechnologies.com/ Just need one for the BB. ;-)
- cmiper
I really think that business card will go digital.
- Keven
... the business card already has gone digital. Check out Contxts http://contxts.com -- I've been using it for a few months now... Works Great. And Saves Trees!
- Richard Merritt
Try it here if you'd like to see it in action... SMS/Text the word: RichardMerritt to 50500
- Richard Merritt
I do poken. It's been a while :-)
- Paul Papadimitriou
If u meet a sexy babe in a club, a sure way to turn her off is to pull out your poken.
- Tokyo Dan
I met a girl. I gave her a good poken. It was her first poken. Now she gives every man a good poken.
- Tokyo Dan
If you want to get arrested in Japan, walk into a police box and pull out your poken.
- Tokyo Dan
Need a design that more effectively accommodates the Japanese meishi-kokan culture.
- Daniel Fath
I like this. Even tried to buy a 12-pack. Link is broken. This does not bode well for this company.
- Leo Laporte
Once they get Poken with a bigger size limit (I think you can only store the contact information of 12 contacts at one time), maybe add a few more useful features in there as well, then we'll have a good product. Make them look like real high-tech business cards and THEN it will really catch on.
- Malcolm Bastien
@LeoLaporte Yes the website is their biggest weakness. The "card" information editor is abysmal.
- KyleHase
Cute and all but seriously, no businessman outside silicon valley is going to carry one of these things around.
- David Jacobs
Good point tristan: "it should works with Iphone or blackberry using the bluetooth and a free application we can download for Iphone or Blackberry".
- Jadito
Reminds me of that line from Singles when that once character is trying to convince everyone that they will want to ride the train but everyone answers, "but i love my car". People love business cards for better or worse, it's a way to be a designer without being one.
- adolfo foronda
You can store 64 identities on the current model. Once you reach that limit, it erases the first one. The device signals you at 60. I have three poken, just in case, but most of the time, I don't reach that limit. As soon as I go to my Mac and connect with doyoupoken.com, contacts are saved.
- Paul Papadimitriou
Note: beware of putting multiple pokens in one pocket: they talk to each other ;-)
- Paul Papadimitriou
I love the idea/bought 12 and have tried to push them a bit with my networking group however the lack of effort on the companies part to promote them in the US is really slowing things down. Adoption will not come with out some serious evangelism and seeding on the companies part.
- Joel Ordesky
Poken are doing great here in Japan. I helped the launch at a blogger event a couple of months back and there's been steady progress since then. I'm helping evangelize Poken here. The company has really done a lot of thinking in order to make Poken a success. Will definitely be interested to see whether they can get to a critical mass. I certainly hope so as they are are a huge time and cost saver. (If you think of the cost of one business card, one unit will pay for itself in a short amount of time).
- Andrew Shuttleworth
@ashuttleworth You're the Poken Pimp of Tokyo. Most people I've pokened said they got it from you.
- KyleHase
Always happy to pimp a good thing :-)
- Andrew Shuttleworth
@papadimitriou The Poken are conspiring against you. Quick, wrap them in foil before they know too much.
- KyleHase
The Poken are clearly conspiring against me :-) Hey, I'm the official evangelist along with Andrew, so I had to test things out for you all ^^
- Paul Papadimitriou
Had a nice chat with Robert Scoble a few weeks back where I offered him a Poken by mail. He didn't know what I was talking about at first but then realized he had forgotten he had received one at SXSW. I mentioned how popular and relevant they were becoming and didn't receive a response. Wondering: what has changed to make them interesting now?
- Robert Sanzalone
Poken hype or no hype ? In the Netherlands it's a great success and Belgium is following.
- Mike Verdugt
robert do you remember when i first showed you that at last LeWeb08 in Paris in the cab?
- Ouriel Ohayon
No I don't (yet), what about you?
- Gianluigi Cuccureddu
I have one but I haven't met anyone else with one yet in the UK. Think it's a great idea and reckon it won't be long before businesses are using them.
- Lindsay Davies
what do they say about a fool and their money?
- Gee Ranasinha
Why can't this just be on a phone, seems like a waste of money to have a separate piece of hardware
- Ben
Complete waste of space. Buy a Poken but nobody has one. Pointless. Should be a phone as everyone else says. It's been said over and over with this product, why don't they just patent the technology and sell it to a mobile phone maker? Job done. Tired of these bullshit Web 2.0 gimmicks...
- Andrew Eglinton
Cucat, anyone? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- John Craft
I actually think http://www.mynameise.com will appeal much more to people actually using business cards. The connector is coming and brings much more than people giving each other an online card to look at. They did not win The Next Web Award for nothing :)
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
There's a free app on the IPhone called 'Bump' that does the same thing as far as I can see.
- Rob Bell
They have been available in the United States for 2 months at www.startpoken.com
- Roger Huitt
Cool! Poken are available in Japan too, at http://poken.jp/en/ . Buy one and get poken!
- Rick Cogley
They are here in NZ but I don't know anyone who has one and it's all about mass adoption - I prefer the snapdat iphone app - you can get someone to download it on the spot and bam - you got their details.
- James Stewart
The Circle of Life (revised)
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Hah!
- Robert Scoble
Win.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
HEY! I RESEMBLE THAT REMARK, BUB!
- John Craft
woops in my haste i dissed flickr. sorry flickr.
- Kevin Murray
My wife would agree!
- Brian Bufalo
Agree, John.. it hits a little too close to home ;-)
- Holly Rae
Haha nice update!
- Damien Basile
true - sure takes a lot of time if you let it
- Mark Conrau
Man it looks like we're sliding down a social-negativity cone
- Ymag
So true these days !
- Mike Schmidt
Where's the bathroom? :)
- frankiecarl
And the fridge? ;)
- Stanislas Jourdan
Friendfeed is the center of life!
- ashish
Revised again: Fridge & Toilet Added: ;) http://i.friendfeed.com/0680b4e...
- Kevin Murray
Facebook should rather be in a different universe altogether
- sofarsoShawn
I agree with sofarsoshawn. take facebook out and its darn close. :)
- timepilot
And Twitter would be in the lowest circle of hell ~ but yes,very close; though yes I just tweeted this
- sofarsoShawn
@frankiecarl & stanislas - you can tweet FROM the bathroom or standing in front of the fridge... :-)
- Rick Cogley
LOL
- TheHenry
You mean, my life is normal?
- Michele Lorito-Chase
exactly
- Val Vladescu
from IM
And where is this t-shirt?
- Louis Gray
Agreed...I want this shirt!
- Carlton Hackett
Brilliant
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Nice....
- Danny Bonthuis
Where do I join?
- Christopher Harley
Good one!
- Gianluigi Cuccureddu
Why no life?
- Kristo Magno
why no arrow at least from flickr into friendfeed?
- ian kennedy
Ian Kennedy, May be flickr is lazy,so it leaves that work to RSS and facebook Or one can say same about FF?
- ashish
T-Shirt Waiting To Happen! :)
- The Pageman
T-Shirt & Travel Mug (in case we actually leave the house) Did it @ Cafe Press: Please note 1) I'm not an artist so I hope you like the organic nature of it. 2) I'm not looking to make any $ on this, any proceeds will be donated to my favorite charity http://guardsmen.org Here is the link: http://www.cafepress.com/kevinmu...
- Kevin Murray
Google Wonder Wheel: Exploring Related Keyword Queries - http://infosthetics.com/archive...
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Pretty handy indeed .. the Wonder Wheel.
- Gianluigi Cuccureddu
Viral marketing kun je leren! - http://www.digital-marketeers.org/...
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sommige zijn erg gaaf!
- Gianluigi Cuccureddu
Gartner analyst Nick Jones' blog: "All your mobile decisions are wrong" http://blogs.gartner.com/nick_jo...
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Survival of the Twittest? BusinessWeek on Social Media innovation, addiction and vanity http://tinyurl.com/p67afy - http://twitter.com/Sofus...
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Try and get better customers to your site instead of optimizing your buying funnel too much. They'll convert better and more often. #smx
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Do they tell what "better" customers are?
- Gianluigi Cuccureddu
[reading] Google Voice Provides Services in Uncovering Lost Cell Phones [feedly]: If you've ever lost y.. http://gizmodo.com/5253062...
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Import your mail and contacts from other accounts [feedly] - http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009...
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Yup, ik begin ook over te gaan naar FriendFeed als mijn venster op de wereld. Leuker, rijker en meer mogelijkheden om te selecteren en structureren.
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Same here. Het is ook nos eens een zeer goede lifestream voor op de persoonlijke blog. HTTP://dutchproblogger.com/streammylife
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