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MarketingSherpa: When a Blog Isn’t Enough: Expanding Customer Interaction with a Branded Social Network - http://www.marketingsherpa.com/article...
Mountain Hardware Gets Social
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[WP Theme]: Is this too dark? are the colors okay? does Loren look washed out? What would you change? Is the header too tall? Is this too wide?
Compare this to the present theme --- http://www.lorenheiny.com
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Color is very subjective. My reaction is "lot's of beige". Color seems a bit "sleepy". Perhaps try more combos and post? Inside now a little too dark. Like the new nav and info higher up on the right. Are you going to imbed your logo/name in header as before? Maybe consider, cleaner, stronger header and not try to do so much. Just some thoughts.
- Glen Group
Thanks for the feedback. I tried to embed the name in the header and it just didn't look right. I'm thinking this is too dark inside - sleepy is a good adjective. I'll keep playing with the colors.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
You're welcome. send me a direct if you would like any more feedback as you go. Just realized it would be nice if FF had an easy way to keep up-to-date on ongoing discussions, besides email all or IM all responses. Maybe there's a way to filter that, but would be nicer to click: "track conversation" and be notified. Just thinking out loud...
- Glen Group
My first picture on Flickr with 100 Favorite votes - yeeha!! #photog #photography #flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
M F, tom murphy, Baffled and 12 other people liked this
Congratulations. It's an amazing photograph. Vote save!
- Thomas Hawk
Fantastic viewpoint and treatment. Powerful.
- Glen Group
Ashley Judd just turned 41. How do you think she looks?
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Pavel Senko, Rick Cogley, Morton Fox and 105 other people liked this
stunnin'
- dkb
She looks remarkable.
- Mike Fruchter
HAWT
- Shevonne
is there any pic without makeup ?
- Olivier
I've met (uh, stepped on) her in person...up close. No make up. She really is stunning.
- Jess
Not like a 41 yo
- Amit Morson
she looks better each day, older the better
- Yunus Tunak
what Amit said
- AJ Batac
She always looks good. She went to University of Kentucky the same years I did. She's aged much better than I have.
- Alan Simpson
she is damn good...and hot too..her eye always a killing item
- Arafat Hossain Piyada
RAWR! :D
- CAJ, somewhere else
nice
- Silver Muru
lookin good!
- (jeff)isageek
Looking good -- her dance scene with Selma Hayek in Frida is a classic.- http://www.videodust.com/videos...
- Brian Sullivan
Gorgeous.
- Helen Sventitsky
Yow!
- Martha
Not too shabby. :)
- Steven Perez
Airbrushed?
- Adam Helweh
Still hawt.
- Alex Scoble
she does not look her age http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009...
- D. Eda Goze
beautiful
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
No further coment needed.
- Roberto Bonini
My Like will suffice
- Hutch Carpenter
she looks like she's in her very early 30's. at least in those photos. beauty is beauty though
- Cee Bee
She looks pretty good hanging around with her husband - http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i...
- Brian Sullivan
Fine.
- Glen Group
H O T, H O T, H O T!!!
- JA Castillo
she looks GREAT :o) lol
- David Gross
photoshop is an amazing product.
- Drew Lucas
@Adam Doubtful! The pictures are from different places, but they're all recent.
- Michael Fidler
BTW, I think she looks incredible!
- Michael Fidler
amazing.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Wow, just a few weeks older than me... Stunning! I hate her, LOL jk
- Cheryl Allin
Still smokin' hot!!!
- David Cook
I would do her
- BEX
I think she's adorable!
- Nurse Katie
...great!
- .LAG liked that
MILF....that may be the scotch talking
- clarke thomas
I knew someone would say it eventually:)
- Michael Fidler
Michael - so far, 84 people have no argument :)
- Charlie Anzman
best not to hold back; & just get to the point
- clarke thomas
Original question was MILF?
- Michael Fidler
Early 40s seems to be where most hot women i know are declining in looks. Unfortunately, that seems to be my age. :-( Ahh. To combine the wisdom & spirituality of a 100-yr old, with the beauty of youth. She looks great...
- Mitchell Tsai
I don't think she has kids, but I could be wrong:)
- Michael Fidler
Cee Bee's got a good point about the pictures. So many pictures of public women in their 40s are from their early-40s or their 30s.
- Mitchell Tsai
I think those pics are old. And photoshopped. I mean, what faux-toes aren't Photoshopped these days?
- thepete
@thpete: But with these photos, she's ACTING! —signed, Jon Lovitz
- .LAG liked that
Stop following me, LAG!! Yer freaking me out!!! ;)
- thepete
Neither of those are recent photos of Ashley Judd. That said, a woman with true character really hits her hot zone in her 40s. Those who can take it into their 50s and beyond (Sophia Loren, Emmylou Harris, e.g., or my wife, specifically) are the keepers. But yeah, hawt.
- Alan Chamberlain
Mitchell & thePete, I pulled a bunch of pictures of her from different places for this. The ones I shared were all fairly resent based on the info included with them. However, I agree with Cee Bee. Most women use pictures from when they are younger, however Ashley Judd is fortunate that she doesn't have to.
- Michael Fidler
Fantastic!
- Nia
<insert wayne's world impression here/>
- Mark Philpot
they are obviously retouched. but many people including me shared some other recent pictures that were taken by the paparazzi, she looks really good for her age. then again she no longer has that good skin and has a few wrinkles (duh). so yeah I'm pretty sure these are retouched.
- D. Eda Goze
She looks wonderful...
- aerobroken
photoshopped - I am sure she looks quite good, so why do they feel they have to paint out the few spots and wrinkles she has or tighten parts of her anatomy? She would still look very good to most of us, she would still look hot...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I would.
- Mattb4rd
pretty damn good I may say
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
I need something higher than Like for this one.
- Joe Pierce
She obviously takes care of herself. A very beautiful and talented person.
- Rick Cogley
Hypercritical - Ars Technica - http://arstechnica.com/staff...
Great read on being driven...
- Glen Group
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The Seven Deadly Sins of Social Media.: The Social Path - http://www.thesocialpath.com/2009...
"There are a million ways for businesses to use social media well, and only a handful of ways to do it horribly wrong. So why do companies keep falling into the same traps? The answer is easy: human nature. And as we all know, humans are constantly beset by malicious temptations. So as a public service, I've decided to break down the Seven Deadly Sins that make social media go sour."
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Notification Options -- Wow. I just stumbled onto this page: http://friendfeed.com/setting... If you haven't configured yours yet, have at it.
Daniel Rowley, Rob Diana, Stanislas Jourdan and 34 other people liked this
...but you can't choose the frequency of the email alerts. You could in the old FF. :(
- Matthew Todd
It seems the notifications are pretty much instantaneous now. You'd rather have a digest of some sort?
- Ken Sheppardson
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Yes please! The option would be good. I'm setting up a room for a scientific colleagues who may be new to FF/aggregators, and who want an email digest to alert them to new activity. Just the option of daily or weekly would be perfect.
- Matthew Todd
Very powerful. Nice to be able to customize notifications on FriendFeed.
- Mike Reynolds
hmm, i think it is possible to make a digest of sorts by feeding out to yahoo pipes(setting it to update occasionally) & feeding that back in
- immaterial
@immaterial Sorry for digressing but I don't think you can set yahoo pipes to any particular update frequency (which is problem in its own actually).
- lelapin
I'm using searches saved as RSS feeds into Google Reader to capture info.
- Glen Group
OK, but I'm looking for something with a lower barrier to entry - email digests provided that for people new to FF, and indeed new to social/aggregator sites generally. PLEASE can we have it back - just a little drop-down menu like we had before, allowing for daily/weekly digests by email.
- Matthew Todd
take the RSS from the room and feed it through Feeddburner (or any RSS to email service that alos has a once a day digest option)
- suelibrarian
Anything involving RSS is too much. LOW barrier to entry for REGULAR PEOPLE.
- Matthew Todd
God, the email notification is sending me a separate mail for every little thing that happens. Are you kidding me? Why would I want that, ever? Digest. Summary. Please.
- Matthew Todd
What's "God" has to do with it? (he don't exist for starters). Yeah, "piecemealmail" notification sucks, FF needs to get it fixed and digestified. Observe FF is running on Cuppertino time while readers live in real world timezones - so they'd also need to generate digests at cut-of times that are of significance to each subscriber, not to their own robot.
- ianf ⌘
Well, sure, but periodic updates would be a start. I hasten to add I'm speaking from the point of view of getting people involved who are not normally into social networking/web 2 sites like FF. People who are not likely to check the FF site often without an email reminder that there's stuff to look at.
- Matthew Todd
Involving unmotivated people in FF is exacerbated by the fact that it is difficult to explain what makes it the Next Great Thing - it's not email per se (although it is); not chat (oh, yes!); not BBS (guilty), or a blog platform (beg to differ) - but all of those things in an unobtrusive and low-threshold wrapper. But that's a mouthful.
- ianf ⌘
+100 ianf.
- vijay
Totally agree. I'm trying to replace a scientific email list with a room on FF. It's perfect for this function - posts that include discussions. But the jump from email lists to FF is large, and take-up will be poor without some bridging apps.
- Matthew Todd
Matthew, I haven't started yet, but am thinking of the same, how to entice a whole bunch of chatty people who barely mastered email (10+ years of usage), and so will be reluctant to abandon what they now have on Yahoogroups, for this.... er... whatisit? My Master Plan™ is to do it by stealth... create a group, populate it to some extent with bookmark(l)ed topical content, then invite...
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- ianf ⌘
Trying the same approach. I asked colleagues for their opinions, and they immediately requested email digests. Pleasingly this was a feature in FF, then overnight it disappeared in FF beta. The migration experiment may still work, but I could really use that digest functionality to help out. It's such a simple feature!
- Matthew Todd
I'm sure FFeeders are aware of it, only haven't yet figured out how to do it in scalable manner. But it will come. Still, richtext digests can be counterproductive, too; they tend to be long, and not as readable in email clients (FFs wasn't at all) as the originals on the web.
- ianf ⌘
One bug in the desktop notifier of which you should be aware: if you open the settings dialog on the desktop app & then click "save," the checkboxes in the web version settings will revert to default (even if you didn't change anything in the desktop settings.)
- Mark Traphagen
Thanks for sharing Ken : )
- Mark Harai
So how does this feedback room work - do FF developers read this room? Any feedback to us as to whether our suggestions are being worked on/laughed at?
- Matthew Todd
Now and then they might chime in, but in general they sorta let us fight it out amongst ourselves while they stand behind that one way mirror over there on the wall.
- Ken Sheppardson
Maybe if we start busting up the place, they might come in?
- Matthew Todd
I'm really tempted to make some sort of joke about the big-headed, telepathic Talosians observing Captain Pike and Vina the ST:TOS "The Menagerie"/"The Cage", but I'm totally not that big a nerd.
- Ken Sheppardson
Difficult to bust up the place here, though. I guess as well as a 'like' button we need a 'freak out' button for this room.
- Matthew Todd
The Coming End of YouTube, Twitter and Facebook Socialism - Advertising Age - The Media Guy - http://adage.com/mediawo...
Interesting and excitable viewpoint, although I wonder just how clueless these companies actually are.
- Glen Group
This week roughly marks the one year anniversary of my commitment to being a healthy dad.
Spidra Webster, AJ Batac, Nathan Chase and 98 other people liked this
Record so far: 45 pounds dieted, 10 pounds gained back (mostly muscle I hope), doing calisthenics 2-3 times a week, eating healthier, sleeping more regularly, going outside daily. We still manage walk a two mile round trip to the nearest playground at least once a week.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Wow. Nice work.
- Kevin Pedraja
Way to go!
- Admiral Anika
Looking good, Dan!!
- Derrick
Thanks folks. It's a bit embarassing to publish this but I figure the evidence might help continue to motivate me.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Wow, cool.
- Meryn Stol
Nice Daniel. Good Daddy!
- Hutch Carpenter
Dan, don't...be embarrassed. I hope to one day post similar pictures and it's people doing so that keep me inspired.
- Derrick
Congratulations. I'm doing the same. Lost 21 pounds since the start of the year and have another 19 to go to be 'healthy dad'.
- Andrew Leyden
I've been working out 4 or 5 days a week since January. I've gained 7 lbs. :/
- Kevin Pedraja
OK, I really need to do this. Need some motivation.
- Drew Lucas
@Drew - try the fitness rooms on FriendFeed! There's a nice mix of advice from FFers who are personal trainers as well as motivational journaling from the rest of us. I follow these three in a "Fitness" list: http://friendfeed.com/fit http://friendfeed.com/abs-of-... http://friendfeed.com/weight-...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
you doing great Daniel
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
@Kevin - surely some of that 7 pounds is muscle gain, eh? We're supposed to track our body fat using calipers but since I don't have any I just use family photos ;)
- Daniel J. Pritchett
yea daniel! awesome dad
- Lynne Pope
Wonderful, and the dad part just makes it extra wonderful.
- Steve C
I have two toddlers and I have been trying to do the same thing. Great inspiration to all!
- John G
A worthwhile project, congrats!
- Glen Group
Daniel: That's what I'm hoping. I have one of those body fat monitor scales but I've chosen to disbelieve it.
- Kevin Pedraja
gratz!!
- timepilot
Congratulations, Daniel!
- V Mary Abraham
Good for you!!!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Wow Daniel, have you contacted Subway? :) You're looking great!
- jcunwired
Congrats Daniel!
- Corvida
Excellent job! I'm envious.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Woah Nice!
- Shevonne
Great job! Very inspiring!!
- MiaD
congrats! those before and after pix look like you could sub for Jared from Subway! .LOLz
- .LAG liked that
Nice job!
- You.
You're an inspiration!
- Trish Haley
Super congrats!!! That's wonderful! It's been over a year since I started getting healthy: http://friendfeed.com/boxerca... I'm thrilled to say I've maintained this size since September of last year. But I'm always a work in progress. I hope to get even more in shape, but I never plan on being the size I was from roughly 2003-2007 ever again! Keep up the great work, Daniel!
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
Well heck. I'm overcome by all of the kind words here people, not sure what to say other than thank you and have a great weekend.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Personal commitment to health should always be commended, congrats!
- Patrick Boegel
way to go!
- metalerik
You sir, are an inspiration!
- Bwana ☠
Nice job keep it up.
- John D Reasor
You know the actions louder than words axiom... You have a very lucky child (children?) to have such an expressoin of love and care. Congrats.
- Jim Espinoza
LOL >>> going outside daily
- Russellreno
Great results!
- David Damore
Congrats Daniel...I need to do the same in a bad way and am slowly working towards this.
- Mark Krynsky
I just got word from the doctor yesterday that I need to drop a few pounds as well. He also recommended a new job, but my heart and blood pressure are good so he could not say it was a medical requirement.
- Rob Diana
Oh, and congratulations Daniel! Using pictures to gauge your progress is an excellent idea. Weight is a terrible measure as muscle is significantly heavier than fat, so if you really start gaining muscle mass your weight will definitely increase.
- Rob Diana
A heartfelt congratulations to you and your family. You're hard work and discipline is paying off!
- Sean
Congrats Daniel! #healthydadonff
- AJ Batac
Cleaner FriendFeed (New Beta) - 04/06/09 | userstyles.org
Daniel Rowley, Cristian, Kol Tregaskes and 35 other people liked this
Which style do you prefer?
- Paul Buchheit
The 2nd one significantly. Less noise. The 1st one overemphasizes the groupings, and is not a flattering background counterpoint to the colorful headers.
- Garry Tan
I love the new style. I do prefer the all white background of the original though. Minor, I know. But I just prefer the whitespace. Other than that, the new style is great.
- Diego Barros
Anyone got a full screen preview image?
- Philipp Lenssen
2nd one!! can't stand all the grey
- Christopher Harris
2nd one, maybe a black background instead of grey. The colors of the current version make it look..."childish"? I dunno....just very hard to describe. The 2nd one seems like it would flow as a new version from the old IMHO.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
2nd one, and Jim is awesome!
- gatza
What about a lighter gray background and more muted header bars? The white look choice looks washed out.
- kilbuda
how about user setup of appearance?
- gatza
I'm fine with the first one, as kilbuda said, 2nd one looks washed out. But I seem to be in the minority here. Btw, if we darken the blue in the second pic, will peeps start saying FF looks like FB? =P
- vijay
I prefer the white somewhat, although the clear separation of the current version is good. I think the best solution is customization and themes by the user.
- Louis Gray
Like the white, on the right, but with the bolder colors, borders and fonts in the boxes in the version on the left. So a mix of the two, perhaps.
- Mike Lizun
Some might argue that the theme is already customizable (i.e. me), but determining what the default looks like is probably the goal. My vote is the one on the right, though I don't have this aversion to grey that I see all over my feed.
- coldbrew
The first one seems to be hedging it's bets. I would definitely go for the second.
- Chris Nixon
I like the gray background. Catch me on Monday and I'll likely prefer the white - until the following Thursday, of course. It's CSS; give us a widget on the right with a theme chooser and make the choice sticky.
- James Leard
2nd one is cleaner and lighter for me.
- Roman
There's a new version -> http://userstyles.org/styles...
- AJ Batac
Widescreen version -> http://userstyles.org/styles...
- AJ Batac
Batac: Thanks for your work.
- coldbrew
2nd !
- Can Oktay Heper
2nd! This gray background is distracting.
- DS
I like bold colors for headers (and use them on my own pages) and I like the bold colors that FF uses. As for gray backgrounds, I used to use a grayish background on my own pages (see http://web.archive.org/web...), because I think a separate content and page background looks better. However I moved to a more boring white (http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~amitp...) because it's less distracting, and I liked that aspect of this user style for FF.
- Amit Patel
To get bold headers in AJ's userstyle: remove the .bar line, and add .bar :link,.bar :visited { color:white ! important; }
- Amit Patel
The second one by far. I don't like the gray background.
- EricaJoy
page design - right side; AJAX code is stunningly better in left (new one)
- A.T.
I like the gray background (silent majority?). But the comment highlighting in AJ's userstyle is quickly becoming a must have for me. I think the taste in background scheme is a lot like if whitewall tires appeal to you or not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Micah Wittman
Or, maybe the left is too strong, the right too weak... There are other type and leading issues, but, those are another thing...
- Glen Group
the 2nd one
- single pint of failure
aesthetically - the right side
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
The 2nd by far
- Henry Prêcheur
prefer the one with the White b.g.
- .LAG liked that
I have installed the script to get the neat look without the gray BG!
- Krishnamoorthy
2nd. please kill the gray background at minimum. and bring back the source icons. Otherwise the new version of FF is awesome.
- Gabe
The new FF has lost functionality IMO. I used to be able to manually get a service to refresh and now that functionality is gone.
- Jauder Ho
Jauder, the functionality is there, just moved: Go to your services page (http://friendfeed.com/jauderh... ), Click on one of your services listed (e.g. Tumblr), Click "Refresh Tumblr".
- Micah Wittman
#2
- nadim
the first.
- Michael Ryan
Micah, thanks! It's still a pain though since it's now multiple clicks away instead of being right there.
- Jauder Ho
The second. Just installed it tonight, and I'm very pleased with it (don't like the comment highlighting, though, just the cleaner white and blue color palette).
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
2nd one, maybe with some typography tweaks or incorporating some of what Lindsey's done here: http://friendfeed.com/eclipse...
- Ken Sheppardson
I dont like exact grey background, but almost everything else I like better on the left - perhaps I should do a user css to get rid of the background, since opera makes it so easy!
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
The second one - I'm using it now...
- Andy Bold
The second one of course. Nice work. I do miss the talk bubbles and the social media service icons that FF removed. And the font is too big.
- Gregg Scott
I like the first one!
- Jay Neff
Second one, totally.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
I like the second one, but my friendfeed logo appears in a grey box, sadly. (As far as I can tell, the PNG used has no transparency)
- Foomandoonian
Also, didn't Stylish used to have a nicer icon in the status bar?
- Foomandoonian
Me, I like the new friendfeed design as it is, but I have to admit the second one is also very nice and clean
- Cristian
A List Apart: Articles: In Defense of Eye Candy - http://www.alistapart.com/article...
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"We’ve all seen arguments in the design community that dismiss the role of beauty in visual interfaces, insisting that good designers base their choices strictly on matters of branding or basic design principles. Lost in these discussions is an understanding of the powerful role aesthetics play in shaping how we come to know, feel, and respond."
- Glen Group
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The things I’m learning from having an ugly design - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
Nicholas James, Ekin Acar, John Wood and 42 other people liked this
well, it is ugly. But I kinda like the approach. Now bring back the friendfeed widget and nobody gets hurt!
- Jim Misses SP
I was hoping you wouldn't reveal the reason for the change. I am a fan of simple, returning back to the basic every now and then as well.
- michael sean wright
Robert I would say that this minimalism is very cool -I try to use minimalistic themes too, but if you could change the font. Times New Roman, I think sucks! I believe that if you could make it to Arial or something it would much more perfect!
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
@nicefishfils something like "back to the roots" heheh :P
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
Scoble, a really simple design is great, just have a tan background, grey helvetica 14pt and be done with it. But what you have now sucks, lol. I recommend you checking out http://readable-app.appspot.com/. You can learn a lot there.
- Kiko Cherman
Was the length of stay per visitor for a given article unchanged when compared against previously published articles of similar length prior to the theme change?
- Kevin Eklund
Robert: I know most "real" bloggers love and use Wordpress, but why not use free blogger.com. Is it really worth all the trouble to have a self-hosted mydomain.com blog any more? I think the reasons people had for self-hosting have changed. How much reviewing wordpress plugins do you do? You can have a decent looking yourblog.blogspot.com in 2 minutes or less and start blogging right away. Blogger gadgets have also come a long way. It shouldn't take weeks to set up a blog.
- Tweet Feeds
Tweet: I never liked Blogger and its approach. I already have a free account. I want to have control of my own server.
- Robert Scoble
There seems to be a consensus that you should change the font... although I'm not sure that was the point! : ) I do think it's interesting to think of how all of the "branding" we do and the advertising we permit on our blogs can interfere with the message(s). It at least really makes you think before you add components in to your design. Unless you're not about content but just pretty looks...
- Julie
I rarely read your blog other than via RSS so mostly it makes no difference what it looks like in the browser.
- Brian Sullivan
Robert: Why do you need to control your own server? What does that get you? You could also have a set of no-stress blogs on blogger and still have your wordpress blog for reviewing plugins and experiments. What do your readers think about it? I am sure most like me read you on here. just a suggestion
- Tweet Feeds
Tweet: it lets me play around and have complete control.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: am curious, what do you mean "never liked Blogger and its approach.." Is there anything we should know about Blogger? The uptime seems fine, The TOS seems fair.
- Tweet Feeds
Robert: hope this doesn't sound repetitive but am really curious what do you mean "play around and have complete control", I previously self-hosted and at the moment I really have no reasons to do that because am mostly using blogs for sharing content. bouncing servers and configuring them doesn't seem to add anything to my current needs. Is there something cool that i am not aware of about self-hosting or Wordpress. I don't even see the value in having my own domain because search engines find me.
- Tweet Feeds
Robert are you going to host on Mosso or with a dedicated Rackspace server?
- Ewan MacLeod
In Blogging: Content is king!
- Nicholas James
Tweet: I didn't care for my personal user experience on blogger. Not as intuitive as I would like, and I get much more of my own chosen experience from my self hosted site. I would prefer it even more if I had complete control over the actual linux host. (mine is hosted by a friend, who owns the domain name that I want my blog site on)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Eerily similar to this monstrosity I created: http://bakersdog.com/ebook/ :o)
- Paul Reynolds
You should post adds thu - why pass up a couple of extra bucks!
- Kevin Nordmand
Rob Nelson: Thanks for the answer but I am mostly interested in creating and sharing content. I rarely use the web interface on blogger.com because I use Live Writer, I don't care about the domain, I don't care for custom templates, I don't have any friends that can host me, I have little interest in doing linux administration at this point in my life and will probably never customize...
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- Tweet Feeds
Tweet: you sounds as though you've answered your own question? If you're satisfied with the experience you have, why would you change it? "Don't fix what ain't broke" - I didn't care for blogger, so I tried Wordpress.com - I liked it, but couldn't install my own plugins. I didn't care to setup wordpress on my own server, and so didn't. But when I saw the right domain come up, I jumped on it, and all I have to admin is my WordPress. And now I get the plugins I wanted.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Like Robert, the more I get into the whole notion, the more I would perhaps like complete control over the linux machine. I've found at least one reason I would like that. But as yet it's not compelling enough to a) lose the domain name and b) spend time ad energy maintaining apache and the wordpress system itself.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
A bit to basic/ugly for my liking. Numbers probably didn't change because people come for the content, not the look but why not give them a good user experience at the same time. plus most readers probably use a feed reader.
- CJPhoto
You know I was almost going to tell you to keep that design, or lack thereof, even before you brought up this topic. It has a Craigslisty Authentic feel to it, but I suppose it needs a little design. Maybe a happy medium is best. It's true, all those box ads on Techcrunch and Mashable are destracting, but of course one does have to make money. Hmmmm.
- Stephen Pickering
You know I'd rather see one large, aesthetically pleasing ad than so many flashing boxes. I think this would work with the NYtimes as well. When you click an article they have so many distracting things going on around it, even things that aren't ads. I'd rather have one beautiful ad
- Stephen Pickering
you can't be serious, I didn't bash it because I like the "from scratch" approach but ignoring the design altogether is VERY wrong. Some might read the content via RSS and might be used to raw data, but onsite experience is still a BIG thing
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
It reminds me of a newspaper (which I still like to read) so I find it nostalgic and endearing.
- Christian (Simply X)
There's definitely something to be said for minimalism, but this does give the appearance of a 'lost' theme, due to corruption or whatever, as opposed to one you've selected yourself. On a side note, I've never understood the objections to Times New Roman - I find it to be a perfectly readable font.
- Shéa Bennett
Honestly, when it gets too cluttered, I don't want to come back. It is amazing what whitespace, font choice and size can do. Period. Don't need all the wiz-bang. Fine tuning can make a huge difference. Look at what FriendFeed has done with the beta. Granted it's more function-added. But, now the old look is painful.
- Glen Group
The old FF Realtime is still better when being used as an IRC replacement.
- coldbrew
Sure... talking from a visual perspective. If you did have Scoble 1 and Scoble 2, all things equal except for the look and feel- the look would have a huge impact.
- Glen Group
Also Robert - the blog would be just fine as it is now, if a) not so White...wow..fries my eyes, and narrower. too hard to read with no real paragraphing.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
True, guruvan, the page I am reading this in (beta.friendfeed) is toned down background color. Subtle details, but, preferable on the eye.
- Glen Group
Glen: exactly...it's all it takes. The high-intensity white makes me not want to read Robert's blog. (it didn't make me not read it, but close)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Well said Robert. Content is King. If you have something valuable to say, it does not matter if your WordPress theme is plain or not.
- Tony C
& there i was...clicking refresh in the hope of loading the original scobleizer design (before reading this feed) Hah... :D
- Roshan Ramachandran
If content is King, that makes design, Queen. Doesn't have to be complicated or fancy, just organized.
- Glen Group
Like I said over on your blog post, the best designs *are* simple. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't be designed. Take the good feedback and integrate it without making it complex. Harder route - but better.
- Don MacAskill
+1 Don.
- Glen Group
Honestly, I really like this look -- pages that look "over-designed" tend to distract from quality writing, in my view -- but I'd be in favor of choosing a more readable font. I think black TNR on a white background causes eyestrain. I think the best well-known fonts for onscreen reading, for what it's worth, are Georgia, Cambria, and MS Trebuchet.
- Nathan Rein
In about an hour I will be speaking to a PR class at San Francisco University. What should I tell them? Comment on this URL here:
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I will give them a demo of the real time web. Join in here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/scoblei... The class starts at about 12:30, so it'll be fun if this is rocking and rolling about that time.
- Robert Scoble
Not to push hard on Twitter, just find the right balance between being informative and abusive.
- Nir Ben Yona
the difference between signal and noise for a brand or company.
- Ted Bradford II
It's never been more important to keep up with the evolving web :) explain to them how you do that!
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
That there's no such thing as PR any more. They've all been had. It's as though they were being trained to be buggy whip manufacturers.
- Cliff Gerrish
Tell them you asked FriendFeed what to tell them
- Bwana ☠
take as many journalism classes as you can...refine your writing skills.
- George Dearing
Old school marketing is dead and Social Media is New school marketing. They need to stop thinking like a company and think like an individual.
- John Isaac
Everything you do or say is public relations.
- Dr. Jerry A. Smith
Bwana: that will be very apparent. I'm going to put this thread up on the screen, if I can.
- Robert Scoble
Stop thinking of PR as a one way flow of information. That model is dead.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Embargo
- Pat Hawks
@John Issac: We are all individuals!
- Kevin Kuphal
Tell them Social Media adds a reverse lane to their highway.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Remember the word: RELATE
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
That real relationship make a difference.
- Kameya SHows
WAKE UP:: YOU HAVE NO CONTROL> merely an opportunity to participate and direct conversations. The bar of consumer expectations has been raised and they need to step up as the real time web gains velocity. The bullet train has already left the station. ;)
- Rodney Rumford
Traditional PR is NOT dead ... but social media strategies are in high demand.
- Jeff Grass
Social media for PR purposes: Humanize brands, monitor public opinion, two-way communication.
- Jeff Grass
fyi. we have a panel focused on PR from cisco, facebook, six apart and digg next week at www.gravitysummit.com
- Rodney Rumford
Public Relations now REALLY means public relations, you have to communicate at a whole different level, traditional PR is not dead but spin is.
- Patrick Boegel
Learn the recent case of Dominos and check out the CEO's response.
- Amit Nangare
everything you do or say on the internet is recorded for further evaluation and scrutiny - therefore the smallest detail could come back and bite you!
- shayne catrett
Rodney: you should always include http://www.gravitysummit.com so us lazy people can click and check out your conference. I'll try to be there next week, but I'm pretty slammed with Building43 stuff.
- Robert Scoble
if not already they should become familiar w/ how to adopt, learn and evaluate relevant usage of new digital tools & devices now while still in school - will help them immensely when they enter the workforce...
- mike "glemak" dunn
Cut down on the adjectives and flowery language. Get to the gist.
- Bryan R. Adams
Stop feeding corporate bull lingo. Be real, be fast, be authentic. Social media have shortened the crisis response time for PR
- don manu
That their professors know crap about real PR. They need to know how to pitch, how to work with social media, and how to write engaging press releases (not corporate vomit). Moreover, they need to practice...freelance, intern, or anything to get real-world experience.
- Chris Michaels
Tell them one of the most important skills to learn is storytelling. The industry is about storytelling and relationships regardless of the medium you use. Also highly recommend taking a year off, volunteer, live a year abroad, do something outside of PR. It provides a different perspective when you're back in the industry.
- Christi
If it isn't already required reading, they should read Cluetrain Manifesto. It's a seminal work that points to the future while providing insight into the past and how social media impacts and changes that. Everything since has just been restating the Cluetrain theses.
- Lydia Sugarman
Don: I would challenge whether social platforms have shortened the crisis resposne times for ALL corporations, brands and public relations entities. Amazon would have served to be more in-tune and responsive two weeks ago, but I do not feel that Domino's could provide much more than sorry in the initial wave of Boogergate.
- Patrick Boegel
You can't fake the message. Stakeholders potentially have insight and connections to everyone within your firm and will see through discrepencies between what you say and what you actually do.
- Neil Jensen
Regardless of the medium - traditional PR or new media - you will still need to show measurable results that ties to the business objective. Simply saying that you created a Facebook page or a Twitter account for a client does not mean anything unless you can show measurable impact.
- Kaye Monty
ummm Practice uhhhh getting uhhhh the ummms out uhhhh out of their uhhhh speech.
- Andrew Smith
If they are graduating soon, the only PR they will be doing in the near future is: "Would you like fries with that?"
- Steve Wilhelm
@Andrew, you sound like Michael Arrington!
- Pat Hawks
PR is two-way communication between an organization and all its constituents (who may or may not be customers). If you're not annoying your higher-ups by championing the cause of the public, you're just a stenographer.
- Casey Fryda
Tell them to ignore anyone who makes broad, sweeping generalizations about PR and delivers said generalizations in the form of advice!
- Kevin LaHaise
Interesting advice...
- Casey Fryda
A minimal PR room on FriendFeed should include google alerts, twitter search, and backtype comments. Laura Norvig recommends making such rooms private, but since the data is publicly available anyway mine is public. You can use it as an example if you want: http://beta.friendfeed.com/ourdoin...
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Hehe - ironic isn't it? ;)
- Kevin LaHaise
Definetly the Dominos case x Amazon gay case
- Marcelo Kertész
Oh, wait, I always get this one wrong...irony...irony...i...r...o...
- Casey Fryda
Talk about the "Starfish"
- Buzz Bruggeman
Tell them all you learned on your visit to zappos
- Arvind
tell them to act with integrity at all times, and to look at the tools at their disposal as merely that - tools. if you act with integrity you'll never fear changing media conditions, new technologies, or anything else that "PR flacks" get attacked with. "this is the whole Law. the rest is but commentary."
- Jeremy Toeman
Remember what you say will be on the Internet and around the world as soon as its out of your mouth, dealing with errors quickly and smartly will be a key part of your job
- Kim Landwehr
Persuade them they'll have to learn to evangelize the benefits of letting go of control, and it won't be easy as a first job out of school.
- Amyloo
Tell them that when tragedy (or the unexpected) happens, don't try to cover up or hide information; just come clean and tell the public what you know. The speed of information on the web makes it impossible to cover up.
- Rod
OK, I'm in front of the class now, so they will see what you say.
- Robert Scoble
Hi, I'm Derrick. Don't be scared of the Swine Flu.
- Derrick
Tell them to read Scripting News. http://scripting.com/
- Dave Winer
Roberts having another baby, everyone clap!
- Simon Wicks
And for another demonstration of the realtime web, to check out http://twitterfall.com ;-)
- Jalada
Hello San Francisco! London calling! Can you hear me?
- Andy Bold
You may regret this. :-)
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Haha. Lets see :)
- Roberto Bonini
Scoble didn't start the fiyah... it was always burning since da world's been turnin
- Bwana ☠
i'm in class right now, obviously not paying attention, since i'm following scoble on ff
- patrick
Hi class - Robert is smart
- Bwana ☠
Hello class, enjoy the lesson :)
- Nir Ben Yona
Hello? Is this thing on?
- Glen Group
...always something to say until some one is watching... um
- Bwana ☠
It's Israel's 61st Independent Day - Hooray.
- Nir Ben Yona
You can just scroll up to the intelligent comments made before everybody got stage fright.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Someone ask Robert why he "undesigned" his blog.
- Glen Group
Good question Glen
- Bwana ☠
I honestly thought his site had issues (style sheet missing, etc)
- Bwana ☠
I've always thought Dave Winer's site was the epitome of simplistic
- Bwana ☠
Probably, but, from a purely visual sense it's hard to look at. (unless you have a big enough following and everyone plows through it anyway.
- Glen Group
Ask them whether they know the difference between B2B communication and B2C communication and whether social media has a role to play in either. And why?
- Darren Smith
I like www.alistapart.com
- Glen Group
I'd like a different font... personal preference
- Bwana ☠
sans serif like one of the commenters said on his blog - easier to read for me
- Bwana ☠
PR will be easier and more fun if you honestly like making friends
- Barbara Saunders
Agree Bwana.
- Glen Group
Heyo Class! Be careful not to fear monger. I had to recently change a blog post title due to realizing it was "black hat" copywriting
- Mark Essel
Class, how would you deal with the recent Facebook Terms of Service mistakes? Did Facebook do a good job (with the vote) or could they do better?
- Andy Bold
Don't follow Scoble or else you'll become one of us
- Bwana ☠
one of us
- Bwana ☠
What would be great if the class asked questions here.
- Glen Group
.... one of us
- Bwana ☠
Or if the class could answer questions here
- WorldofHiglet
yeah that'd be cool - have them ask us a question Sir Scoble
- Bwana ☠
Robert makes using FF easy, just follow him and a few other super filters and all their hard work in finding pearls will be revealed :D
- Mark Essel
Shel Isreal did that last week over Twitter. Search #UMD.
- Roberto Bonini
any question we can Google or twitter/FF for help with
- Mark Essel
class: how many of you had heard of Mr Scoble before today? How about 1 year ago?
- WorldofHiglet
Is there really a class on the other end of this feed? Let me see if I can find a good PR link-> ok here's my 2 cents, be genuine that's all. http://messel.typepad.com/my_webl...
- Mark Essel
What's great about using this is the class can come back to this if they are too busy listening to Scoble now!
- Glen Group
PR while representing a company is still a matter of building individual relationships that people can trust. We're a skeptical lot, so stay clear of heavy spin doctoring.
- Mark Essel
In case you guys don't know Robert Scoble (I just started learning about the cool stuff he does recently), check out this background info-> http://messel.typepad.com/my_webl...
- Mark Essel
Beware of people starting their line with: "Reading The Story from Robert McKee while sipping another Pepsi Max, as my new Nokia 5800 started ringing..."
- Nir Ben Yona
Mark, we know he's really talking to a class, because if he were just sitting at his computer he'd be jumping into the conversation more. No photographic evidence required this time.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Lol Bruce, good point
- Mark Essel
Ok gotta get writing, have a great time everybody.
- Mark Essel
Report on and write about something you are passionate about
- Jamie Ginsberg
I think I blew the class away with the real time feed. I gave them a homework project to get involved here.
- Robert Scoble
Thumbs up !!
- Nir Ben Yona
Nice, :)
- Simon Wicks
psychology, at least minor in it, every major should.
- Monique
You blew me away with it, since you showed I have joined
- James Armfield
:) great idea, Robert - interactive classroom FTW!
- WorldofHiglet
Well I'm too late for this, but it just seems people are tired of Spin. They want authenticity and truth from companies. Companies lose people's trust with spin. John Wooden said he rarely scouted other teams. He said he was trying to compete with himself and make his own team better instead of trying to dissect the weaknesses of the other teams.
- Stephen Pickering
This class was very interesting to speak to. Twitter's CEO is speaking there on Thursday. I told them to Tweet everything he says. :-)
- Robert Scoble
How good is this class? The students themselves convinced Jack from Twitter to come and speak. I like student initiative!
- Robert Scoble
nice - i speak at colleges a lot and always leave feeling good about the future :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Be "a real person" and write in friendly tone and concise way. :-)
- PRBristolco.uk
I tend to tweet 5-10 times a day but would like to know if those messages are commented on here. Is there an auto/easy way for me to do this?
Set up an RSS feed based on a search or a filter on FriendFeed.
- Glen Group
Thanks Glen, will do
- Mark Essel
Hope that helps. It's hard to know who's talking about your or to you when you are on a million different networks.
- Glen Group
I'm on the advanced search page, think a filter is better?
- Mark Essel
advanced here? Maybe. I just made a filter for myself called "Glen". It's not my name and does not show up on my radar unless my search looks for the word Glen in comments. Still trying to create a smooth setup so I am not running around having to check on replies.
- Glen Group
wondering why you don't use your profile area on FF to show what you do?
- Glen Group
hmm that sounds reasonable
- Mark Essel
ok I've got this cooking in search : incomment:mark friends:messel
- Mark Essel
If you find a way to get it into an RSS feed, let me know! I use google reader ALOT and have searches all come into that.
- Glen Group
got it
- Mark Essel
at the top of my search page is an rss subscription
- Mark Essel
Found something on Google: http://lifestreamblog.com/hack-to...
- Glen Group
ok after i search I just use my google subscribe option
- Mark Essel
javascript:var%20b=document.body;var%20GR________bookmarklet_domain='http://www.google.com';if(b...
- Mark Essel
jeez thats ugly but now its in my greader, thanks
- Mark Essel
Interesting. I am using beta.friendfeed.com. Maybe that doesn't have it.
- Glen Group
me too seemed to workk
- Mark Essel
Duh, sorry, I see it now!
- Glen Group
thanks Glen, ok I gotta get some writing done, be good!
- Mark Essel
Hey sure, it was helpful for me to link this stuff too. See ya.
- Glen Group
747, F-16s fly over lower NYC causing scare - Security- msnbc.com - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id...
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Like yelling fire in a crowded theatre?
- Brian Sullivan
from Bookmarklet
Anybody local experience this?
- Brian Sullivan
I read that twice and I'm still unclear as what happened. One person said they warned, another said they warned, but didn't disclose. Seems if you're going to fly something that big near buildings, a heads up to building management would be wise course. Or is that too much like right?
- Admiral Anika
Apparently the FAA knew and told New York law enforcement but the warning stopped there -- at least that is my reading of it.
- Brian Sullivan
there was a big buzz on twitter about this earier. can't be doing this without informing people on a large scale. that's really messed up
- Cee Bee
Still have no idea what happened.
- Roberto Bonini
supposedly it was a "photo session" led by the federal government to capture air force 1 (the president's official airplane) flying over the nyc skyline
- Cee Bee
Government should of posted on Twitter...
- Glen Group
Apparently the NYPD knew but Mayor Bloomberg didn't -- and he is pissed.
- Brian Sullivan
Careful, you may get weary wading through the lies and coverups
- Bwana ☠
Yeah and I see differing reasons on this from this photo session to a security enactment.
- Admiral Anika
I live in Manhattan and was Tweeting on my iPhone in bed this morning when it happened and missed it almost entirely--BreakingNews mentioned it and that's all I knew. I don't go out much, but that's how much it effected us in the poor neighborhood. :) Still don't understand why the USG needed a photo of the back-up Air Force One with the Statue of Liberty--I mean, I'm *pretty* sure a copy of Photoshop is cheaper than the mess they caused today.
- thepete
So, turns out there was an avalanche on Tuckerman's this weekend after all - good thing the guy riding it was ok. (Too bad "related videos" on YouTube turn up tummy tuck videos - ew!) - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Sorry I missed that. Not. We enjoyed solitude in a secret nearby ravine. ;-)
- Glen Group
Some of you need followers to get people to engage on your thoughts. Beg for followers here and explain WHY we should follow:
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I'm @scobleizer and you should follow me if you want tons of interesting tech news. I watch thousands of friendfeeders and Twitterers and am always looking for the most interesting stuff before @techmeme gets it. (UPDATE: I AM FOLLOWING EVERYONE ON THIS THREAD)
- Robert Scoble
Isn't a better way to get followers by engaging on their thoughts and getting attention through engagement? I NEVER follow anyone who begs the way you describe.
- Ken Camp
That's an example of what I'd like you to do. I will follow anyone who answers on this thread.
- Robert Scoble
Well because we cannot compete with Scobleizer...and we are desperate for a following to launch our own blogs. :-)
- Tarun Chachra
Ken: the problem is that on friendfeed and Twitter you need some seed followers.
- Robert Scoble
I agree with Ken - I make a point of not following people who ask for followers (and ESPECIALLY not if they call themselves "social media experts" or "SEO experts"... retch)
- Chris Taylor
I'm not sure about begging but it's difficult, especially when you're overwhelmed by inspiration about what you're working, to feel like you're not connecting with enough people. Then again, I don't want a bunch of robo-followers, but people who I can engage and engage with me. Twitter is weird.
- Remote Revolution
@Chris, you should follow Mike Nayyar then: http://beta.friendfeed.com/mikenay...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
A friend of mine joined Twitter a month ago and he already has more Followers then I gathered in two years!! Please Help! thank-you very much @moon http://twitter.com/moon
- paul mooney
Hmm, I thought who you followed was more important....
- Scott Breakall
I guess getting on with some friends on Twitter is most important. They already know people. This adds to better quality content as opposed to just random following people which most of the time creates noise. I however love it that @scobleizer creates is great in creating a stage for interesting people :)
- Michiel Sikkes
I personally don't need THAT much but I desperately need FOLLOWERS for XDBE project, to spread the idea behind it! To bring the Internet to the next level together! Global Social Graphing http://xdbe.com/faq/
- Elmira Gazizova
If you don't follow me my gf will lock me in the basement without food and water.
- rob
Only follow me if you like tech AND religion . A dangerous combination!
- Dan Walters
begging is annoying. I guess you have to engage by following and slowly build an audience. A lot of my followers ( though not much ) has been by engaging on other tweets etc . Good use of hashtags doesnt hurt either
- Kashif Khan
I rarely have anything to say myself that doesn't require engaging in conversations with others, so I don't want ANY followers. I follow those who I believe I may want to engage in conversation with, or those whom I desire to know more about.
- Larry
@jpelegrin. When I do say something on Twitter, it's usually very insightful. O.K., not really, but I need some peeps. This is embarrassing!
- Jeremy Pelegrin
i ain't going to beg, but i will make a note that those interested in computers, programming, science, and humor might find FriendFeed just a little bit more enjoyable if you follow me.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Breakall: It's a moving target. Whatever serves the purpose of the conversation at hand. For the real story: most ppl care, including Scoble.
- coldbrew
you should follow @unmarketing cause I sang about Scoble http://www.ReTweetMeVideo.com
- Scott Stratten
I agree you need seed followers. I just think the way to gain them is by engaging people who interest you. Be proactive. To me,this approach sounds, not disengaged, but not terribly engaging or proactive. I realize I'm an engagement fanatic, but if someone wants me to follow, a witty response to something I've said will lure me in, especially if there's an interesting interchange. Someone who follows me and has a post like you describe, I simply ignore (or block if appropriate for me).
- Ken Camp
Hmm, you should follow me if you'd like to keep a pulse on grassroots tech organizing going on locally to nationally, and because I'm looking for more #scifi fans to chat with. (@deannecuellar)
- DeAnne Cuellar
Quite simply this is all an exchange of ideas, thoughts and information. I want to follow and be followed by those whom I can learn from, as well as to receive input/advice/insight from.
- Ted Bradford II
I'm actually culling what few followers I do have to get to a conversation that makes sense for our "marketing" business. Um, yea, guess that's not a "pitch".
- Glen Group
Ken: this is my way of finding interesting new people to follow who I might otherwise not know about. Also, anyone who answers here IS engaging.
- Robert Scoble
you should only follow me if you like Star Wars, baby photos, web design, gadgets, random weirdness, memes, and music that makes you nod your head to the beat
- Nathan Chase
@coldbrew You're exactly right, they do care. Just a little reminder of advice that's come before when OTHERS were trying to ratchet up the follower numbers. /cold brew coffee rawks
- Scott Breakall
follow me, because i would get more active with more followers. :)
- Alexander Rode
I try to be interesting, but really we are starting 2 new businesses here and I could use as many followers as possible. And I follow back.
- Audrey
Nathan: if anyone ANDs that list you won't get any followers! I choose to OR it and am now following.
- Chris Taylor
@Wordful: [I'm not above begging, so please oh please follow me.] Follow me because I'm someone who can help you understand and implement an editorial strategy on your blog. I'm also a no-BS deep thinker who doesn't like to conform.
- Charles
You can follow me - @michiels on twitter - if you're interested on how a European internet startup works and what differences there are with for example SV startups. Also how Dutch schools combine entrepreneurship and studying.
- Michiel Sikkes
if the follow isn't two-way, well it's not much of a conversation is it?
- Sean O'Brien
@Alexander, sounds like chicken and egg problem. Do the followers come before the comments and content or after? :)
- Paul Wade
The problem here on FF is that the majority of potential subscribers are in the USA so the site is most active when I'm in bed here in the UK! I think the key to getting subscribers is to engage with others' content and make sure you share interesting things yourself. That way you become a 'valued' member of the community. You have to put some 'work' in though.
- Martin Bryant
I'm an average, non-techy person.
- Nurse Katie
so are we begging you? watch for awhile and see if you like :) @rveep
- reed price
Thomas Hawk follows me and since you don't you obviously are behind the times :)
- Kevin Kuphal
Nathan: I "AND" the list, and followed.
- Larry
Getting that starting mass is an absolute nightmare. I think i hace about 9 followers and all but 4 of those are spammers. I haven't been that prolific so far but i'm trying and will hopefully trigger some interesting thoughts in your head
- Jamie Vidamour
Rather than begging for followers, I'd like to tell you all how I've learned to use Twitter to engage like minded aviation related folks in a time when my industry (business aviation) is under fire from all sides. Twitter has allowed me to build meaningful relationships with those that write about and/or care about the future of our industry. Follow @BizAv if you're interested in joining the conversation or check out http://tinyurl.com/GJetTwitter for other business aviation related Twitters.
- Mike Mikolay
I've actually noticed I've had a few more followers lately than I've had before. Hopefully they're getting some interesting tidbits from me.
- Paul Wade
audrey, i personally believe in quality over quantity. one needs numbers of course to get the message out (when you aren't giving of course. i.e., signal to noise) but I find no benefit in having 5000 followers if 4000 of them have nothing in common with me/my business/my interests etc.
- Ted Bradford II
@Chris - right, it was a little tounge-in-cheek, but that's the majority of subject matter you'll see crawl across my feed
- Nathan Chase
I don't beg for followers. If you want to follow there is a 98% chance I will follow back. I like to think I bring interesting news to the table.
- John Flynn
The whole idea of "followers" plays to our inherent need of not being alone or feeling important. Gaining followers is like gaining money. You find the excitement of gaining followers and once you are loaded with "followers" so what? It doesn't make you happier, doesn't make you more successful. What's 25 thousand followers if your conversation on twitter is about how many beers you are drinking on happy hour? I find that people who are very zealous about gaining followers have EMPTY conversations.
- Bo Lora
You should follow @jeremybogdan for thoughts on the latest gaming and tech/social media news, in addition to updates on the gaming podcast I run and daily observations. I think that wraps things up in a nice package, but honestly, I enjoy the conversations most. Really more "followers" would just make it possible to carry on conversation and meet people I might have never been able to talk to/meet otherwise.
- Jack Bogdan
Beg for followers, Robert? :(
- Mona Nomura
Every so often, the world changes, sometimes quickly,sometimes very slowly but sometimes unnoticeably fast. Change is constant and constantly changing. There is no timetable and you cannot predict or trend the unknown but you can change with it as quickly as it evolves. That's what my blog is about..its located at http://newnewstory.blogspot.com
- Iggy Kin
Ok...so I'm here and I absolutely want people to follow me, but why should I have to beg to be followed? I'm doing great work, just like the interview I did with you Robert, and have other cool guests slated to join me. Begging makes me feel dirty somehow. I'd rather have followers slowly work their way into my life than to have them show up en masse one day simply because I begged here. I'm with my pard. Ken. Begging? DO NOT LIKE.
- Sheryl
Mona: I'm looking for new people to follow and there's a lot of newbies here, so figured I'd help.
- Robert Scoble
I'll do it! I provide a weekly podcast for IT pros which provides interviews, views, and tech tips. You can listen to it here even. I also post self amusing thoughts and comments that are only funny and witty to me. Follow me and have a richer life :) If you are interesting I'll find you here too.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
After helping @scobleizer find a bike, Google thinks I pose "a significant risk to our AdWords advertisers": http://bit.ly/177PTK #TrueStory
- Walt Ruppar
I'm John Wright and I'm building web applications under the name Wright Labs (@wrightlabs). You should follow me if you want to be the first to know about new apps I've built or updates to existing ones.
- John Wright
Read 'Beg for followers' as 'Market yourself'.
- Kiran Patchigolla
Sheryl: sometimes you have to promote yourself. I used the word "beg" to get a conversation going.
- Robert Scoble
Kiran: right.
- Robert Scoble
If I'm followed by those who follow in huge numbers(e.g. @scobleizer), I'd like to be included in one of their "special" friend list or filter. It sucks to have your voice drowned out by the masses. I guess there's always DM. But that works only if the recipient is following you. OK, just follow me already :)
- Edmund Tay
I've already tried to get my current high profile followers engaged in a conversation here: http://friendfeed.com/shaynor... with my GAME which was actually going to provide a fun way for me to gather some usage data to elaborate on a point for further discussion here.....NO COMMENTS from my FF peeps!!!!!
- shayne catrett
also this can relate to the fresh blood tech bloggers discussion a while back
- Kashif Khan
I am @harscoat and this is a test ;) on the Scoble power!! - I am on friendfeed thanks to him to be honest and thanks to friendfeed & Brett Taylor feed I discovered SANTIGOLD (Lights Out in particular) and in the end this feed/twitter thing and collaboration led to value for my ears :) so this feed thing works for me
- Harscoat
Follow me because I'm just too awesome! :P But, in all seriousness if people think I'm interesting then they should follow me. I'm not going to beg for followers. They have to decide on their own if they want to follow me or not.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I get followers when they see me post on topics they search for; I get the most interaction that way too. So maybe if one wants more followers, one should talk about stuff people care about :-) Other than that sometimes folks I actually know comment on my tweets.
- Emil Sit
Follow me for the occasional humorous comment and pretty photo. And maybe because you got curious, looked at my profile, and figured that, yeah, I'd like to follow that guy. (And I'll do the same for you.) PS: Nice way to kickstart newbies like me into following others.
- Andy Bold
Robert - promoting and begging strike me differently. VERY differently. Promoting myself is easy. I think I'm a fabulous podcaster, fabulous interviewer. I Would LIKE to interview YOU again and want you to let me know when you have something really cool to talk to about, ie Building 43. That's self promotion. Are you buying it? :)
- Sheryl
PLEASE follow me. My mom is the only one commenting on my stuff and it's making me look like a dweeb.
- Christina Henderson
Sheryl: I was already following you! :-)
- Robert Scoble
@chrisquick LOL, that made me laugh.
- Paul Wade
lol Christina. On another note, do not follow me, I cannot handle the responsibility.
- Christian Collins
Wow this feed has just started and already produced a wide variety of comments. Desperate for followers or power of FriendFeed ;-)
- Michiel Sikkes
Me @smohkim.. why? just to get a bit more than just regular tech news
- Sardar Mohkim Khan
I'm pretty new to FF, so I'm not sure my content is worth following. But I'm trying to learn socmedia while working on video game news at gamingangels.com. So, yeah. :)
- Elizabeth Parmeter
Yes Robert didn't mean beg literally, follow his example which is his first comment. He's really asking a for a concise answer to the question "Why should we follow you?"
- John Wright
I want people who are worth following back. I really could use some interesting thought provoking input.
- Mary Wehrle
Speaking of follower numbers, what's the minimum to shoot for before decent engagement can start to happen?
- Edmund Tay
Edmund: four.
- Robert Scoble
Robert you make me LAUGH! WTG! And to all my NEW followers, thanks :-)
- Sheryl
I follow back on Twitter @nencetti - to get followers I follow people and wait. (i guess that is sorta begging) to lose followers i tweet too much. I am starting to use FriendFeed, it grows on you, like a fungus...
- Mike Nencetti
Ha, funny Christina! I just jumped into the follow-a-thon here. I want everyone here to follow me because I want to learn from you and hope I share some knowledge to enlighten you some day :-)
- Jason Cronkhite
Robert: Is that based on the assumption that all 4 followers share a common interest in what you have to say or share?
- Edmund Tay
Edmund: yeah. But all you really need is one with other followers who also like what you have to say. The second I post a comment or "like" one of your items it gets shown to thousands of people.
- Robert Scoble
Please, please, please. Why? Because I'm begging.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
I do hope we can get you along to a #tuttle the next time your in London. In the mean time feel free to follow me @robocallaghan
- Robert O'Callaghan
Robert: I'll be in London in early July!
- Robert Scoble
Willem: you link to cool applications. You should have both begged and explained that.
- Robert Scoble
Wow, that is fast!
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Take a look at my current FF homepage and if any of the entries engage you on an emotional or intellectual level, then follow!
- Sam Grover
i am begging for followers here for two reasons. 1) my money was wasted in trying to get 19,000 followers in five days and the free snuggie 2) If I get each of my followers to donate one dime to me, i can easily afford the big green hands like scoble has, then EVERYONE would follow me.
- Ted Bradford II
You're already following me Robert - please, only follow me if you want good content. That's the secret to gaining quality followers. I do like to follow others with good content though.
- Jesse Stay
I started with this social networking thing because I miss discussions with fellow scientist when I was one. Not all conversations here are so "eggheaded" but engaging. With more followers I could start more conversations.
- Robert Hafer
samgrover anyone who puts Upcoming.org geeky events in here is good enough for me (like you do).
- Robert Scoble
I see this as a community service thread - no problemo rs :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
i lack focus. my links lack focus. i am the hybrid vigour in your friendlist.
- dromologue
No begging. Look at my feed and subscribe if you like it. It's a mixed bag of tech, marketing, politics, business, food and humor. http://beta.friendfeed.com/ajkohn
- AJ Kohn
Jesse: actually I've gotten quite a few good quality followers by doing crappy content. It's true. The stuff I think is good quality content often doesn't get people to follow, even the smart ones. Of course I learned that by using your tool! :-)
- Robert Scoble
dromologue: you linked to treehugger.com. You can't be half bad.
- Robert Scoble
i am in the same boat. I would love to have followers but i don't have time to focus in on one topic.
- Zach Scott
You should follow me because I enjoy peanut butter and jelly sandwiches http://preview.tinyurl.com/dxvejm
- Jon
Jon: my brother will probably enjoy talking to you then!
- Robert Scoble
I probably wont ever beat you or @techmeme. I'm a pretty nice guy though. Plus, I promise to only post a few pictures of cats a month- none of which with be tagged with Obama!
- metalerik
U will be giving us "lurkers" a voice.
- Frank Sant'Agata
You SHOULDN'T follow me (@supermoose37) because I don't want you to. Anyone currently following me, should stop right now. Follow me, and you'll regret it.
- Marcus Beagley
I can't imagine being interesting enough to follow.
- Peter Kruit
metalerik: I liked the Google Mars images you had up.
- Robert Scoble
Ooos, I forgot to beg and give a reason why I'm begging. So here goes: Follow me because I try to post and share items that I think will be of interest to some if not all of my followers. That and I will also follow you back :)
- Edmund Tay
Probably shouldn't follow me ... [ http://bit.ly/a8eqT ]
- Craig Brownell
Peter: you are running the iPhone 3.0 beta. That makes you interesting, didn't you know?
- Robert Scoble
Usually I'll browse the other FF'ers shares and discussions to get a feel for that person's share/insights. I tend to follow people who have an equal number of interesting ORIGINAL items/posts rather than just retweets/reshares. I admit, I'm one of those people who doesn't get a lot of Likes *sad* or Comments
- Glenn Batuyong
PBJ is pretty compelling, and dromlogue's hybrid vigor comment cracked me up. This thread is making me laugh, and keeping me busy!
- Kathy Fitch
I like pictures and stylish things and these you will find in my feed. I usually follow back and I comment too (I know!), especially if I don't have to be serious about it.
- Mark H
Follow @frodeste for tweets on tech, crm, project management and life :)
- Frode Stenstrøm
FF and others have given me the opportunity to engage with people from all over the world from my quaint little town
- Steve
Follow @keithbarrett - I've been in IT for 30 yrs and am just as excited by the possibilities today. I've been involved in all aspects of applying technology to business from software coding to infrastructure design/support. Past employers include DEC, IBM, Red Hat & Disney. Living though the computer->Internet->Social Media changes helps me see a bigger picture of how we got here & where we might go. Like @scobleizer I read TONs of news regularly and share the more interesting bits when he's late :)
- Keith Barrett
Robert: Ideally I like to do at least one of those a week :)
- Sam Grover
Steve: what little town? Update: looks like it's Billings Montana, right? Love that town!
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Good point.
- Peter Kruit
Lyons CO
- Steve
And for those that don't get it - Robert is creating significant content about the people he is engaging. This makes you more than a number or a bio. I should have said follow me because I'm not an SEO or marketer :)
- Keith Barrett
Well, boo. Why isn't the pop out page working for me?
- Kathy Fitch
Ah, there it went. Better!
- Kathy Fitch
Kathy: friendfeed is behaving a little slowly for me right now. I think they might be pushing out new code.
- Robert Scoble
Must be it, Robert--I like the fast and furious view best!
- Kathy Fitch
great exercise bro! and illustrates why i am selective about who I follow and who is allowed to follow.
- Ted Bradford II
please follow me, please please please
- Adrian
Makes sense for me to comment here, so that I can get Robert's attention when I need it in future. Plus I follow him anyway.
- Ashish Rangole
Adrian: I'm already following you. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm @thepuck. You should follow me for a mix of tech news, stuff on coding, social media, and writing, plus whatever fun stuff catches my fancy. I sift through tons of content each day and share and publicize the best of it (IMHO). I also have lots of awesome friends who you can meet through me. Thanks for the opportunity, Robert!
- Neal Jansons
You should follow me if you want to live a truly boring life vicariously thru me. :D Serious;y, I am the worlds most boring tech enthusiast.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Robert: What are you favorite filters these days? :/
- Christian Collins
OK, on a more serious note, you should follow me (@supermoose37) if you are a fan of either "Transformers" OR "Doctor Who"
- Marcus Beagley
Christian: I have a filter that shows me all items with one like. That's my most used one.
- Robert Scoble
I won't beg for followers but if you are interested in social media, security technology, networking technology, politics, or economics I'm sure we would have alot to share together. I'm on twitter as @tsudo but prefer conversations on Friendfeed.
- Keith - @tsudo
Robert: Sounds like a fire hose!
- Christian Collins
Marcus--How about VR-5? Anyone remember that one?
- Kathy Fitch
When I'm not trying to corral my 2 little boys (4 & 1) I hop on FF to keep my sanity!!
- Kevin Whalen
Christian: it's not that bad, actually. I am building more and more filters, though, on companies in tech industry and terms I see get popular here.
- Robert Scoble
You should follow me because I know where the main cable is for the whole internet and have a saw. I also adore tech, don't own an iphone but would like a Segway. Hopefully enough said :)
- tech pops
If you don't follow me, how else are you going to know which Air Force 1's I like the best? This knowledge could come in handy in the future, you never know.
- Richard Lawler
"I also have lots of awesome friends who you can meet through me." - Gee I'd like to be able to say that someday! Can I meet some? :-)
- Keith Barrett
Okey doke--now following tech pops, strictly for self-preservation, dontcha know.
- Kathy Fitch
Kathy: Sorry, the only thing I watched with VR in the title was "VR Troopers"
- Marcus Beagley
I'm kuckoo for Co-co Puffs and have a few screws loose, so sort of like that box of chocolates: you just never know what you're gonna get tweet-wise (@tweric) or ff-wise. But, man, do I spell good.
- Eric Matas
I noticed some people are actually recommending people in this thread to follow. There's a room you can do that ;) http://beta.friendfeed.com/ff-subs... Although if you want to follow me - feel free I follow 11.6k people and have a river of noise following through constantly so I can find the latest goings on ;)
- Nicholas James
Sigh, it's hell being old. I also loved that short-lived horror dealie, "The Others" I have a tendency only to watch tv that all others apparently (and oh so wrongly) hate.
- Kathy Fitch
DeAnne: I'm following, though for the #nptech, alas not for the scifi!
- Eric Johnson
Follow me because I just came back to FF from a social media vacation, and I have just had time to read some really good (dead wood) media I want to put to good use in future comments and posts:)
- Thomas Bøhm
Robert, point well taken - I guess I'm still trying to figure out why I have gotten the followers I have then. I don't think I've ever begged for followers. Maybe my content is crappy? ;-) I guess most of my audience is probably SocialToo users, which may have something to do with it.
- Jesse Stay
Now I'm wishing it wouldn't default to top of page after every follow. How spoiled am I?
- Kathy Fitch
My little brother just signed up for Twitter (http://twitter.com/aaronmatas) and I'd love for legions of people to follow him just to scare the sh*# out of him...by showing him the POWER of the social web. Bru-ha-ha-ha-haaa. Oh yeah, he's a TV sports journalist, so he kinda needs to know. Thanks -- please tell others!
- Eric Matas
Follow me for tech info related to graphics, web programming, browsers, iPhones, and natural language processing. And, maybe I'll fill you in on my next big project :-)
- Charles Ying
Charles: your page is the most interesting I've seen yet (to me).
- Robert Scoble
Follow me for site feedback ideas (and thoughts about UI in general), programing advice (to come), an introduction to the game of Go (to come, in a separate feed), (re)shares of interesting and/or depressing political blog articles (note: I brand myself "moderate socialist" policitally, though I'm assuredly not opposed to meritocracy), and random philosophical musings.
- Karl Knechtel
Well, my knee-jerk reaction to "beg" lingo notwithstanding (you'd think my knee would learn to behave after all this time), this is a fun follow party. I'll be back later to see who I missed. (Because, here, you *can* come back later, which is awfully nice.)
- Kathy Fitch
Oh yeah also, you should follow me because I'm an application developer and ultimately I want to build what YOU want and what YOU will use. (and I need your feedback to do that :) )
- John Wright
Because I just started FF when the beta came, and needs a kick to get started :)
- Erik Gulliksen
I like to express and pass on info about: Tech, Flyfishing, Architecture and remodeling construction. I am a freelance Architect Draftsman in Wisconsin.
- Frank Sant'Agata
Robert: thanks!
- Charles Ying
I'm IT hitman working in The Bahamas. I tend to follow Foreign Policy/Defense Blogs and dabble in political satire.
- Adi
Frank: What areas of Tech do you tend to talk about most? Do you photograph Architecture too? You need some feeds into your FF my friend.
- Paul Wade
Though I don't post a lot of native FF entries, I like likes and comments as a way of filtering stuff. I'll share with you; you share with me. And I love FF's real time features, particularly when combined with live video.
- Tom Landini
I have a hard time begging for anything :-)
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Thanks Paul I will update, I just stated FF
- Frank Sant'Agata
weedmonk: Wait, you're a hitman?
- Paul Wade
Ah, I'm a mom, so I'm used to the wide-eyed beg. Dogs and kids--there's some real smarts there that we could all learn from. Besides, this whole thread made me laugh out loud right at my keyboard more than I have in a long while.
- Kathy Fitch
beg is an odd thing. Yes - I want followers - not for the sense of feeling oddly popular - but like @scobleizer I like being able to search through massive amounts of data that users create, and without followers, i'm limited.
- Courtney Engle
<--cracking up. This couldn't possibly have been a less subjugating experience for anyone. The "beg" term got hackles up, but also grabbed perfect gobs of attention, so there you go. It's a fun and funny thing, and my bberry, for one, is all abuzz about it! (Humming a Temptations tune and smiling, here.)
- Kathy Fitch
Wow, amazed at the semantics debate over "beg". Report just in... all net oriented sarcasm/tongue-in-cheek/parody must come with obligatory semi-colon parenthesis to indicate jest (even if to a minor degree). ;-) Would much appreciate the follow Robert, I always enjoy your posts. As a consultant I work on finding simple solutions to complex problems... my tweets are all over the place.
- SAM
I have about 280 "hand picked" followers. That might not be all that impressive, but I have a quality stream at least.
- Rutger Blom
Rutger: I find that the best quality you can get is to stick to under 200 people you're following. I do that with Friendfeed's lists.
- Robert Scoble
Back so soon :-) The London #tuttle is on a friday at the moment 10-12 at the ica in London.
- Robert O'Callaghan
Because I only joined Ff because of Scobelizer, therefore he should have to watch me flounder around trying to do something unique.
- Gregg Le Blanc
1up Scott, Begging has the well deserved connotation of supplication. Hence, the semantics. I would like to find more people that are interested in the Semantic web. Wordpress hacks and plug-in development, Designers, Coders, Innovators that need Beta testers. Companies with products that I may be interested in. My interest's are becoming more diverse as a result of my participation here. TY
- Eric Logan
I talk about library stuff, volunteer and service stuff, social media stuff, and Drupal as a versatile platform. If you're interested in any of that, you'll be interested in me. I also like food and kids.
- Laura Norvig
I am sort of feeling like Oliver asking for more gruel, May I please have more followers sir, I promise if your not educated at least you will be entertained and amused.
- Kim Landwehr
Well, sure, but I'm thinking back to the days when the listserv was a main mode of discussion. The subscribers were a kind of built in audience that posters to the lists didn't really have to fight for (though list founders had some work to do)--the challenge (and the fun) was in engaging people *despite* not having a handpicked audience. Some self-selection because of list themes, of course, but the audience was there, and anyone could join. Some of the best discussions actually flowed from difference.
- Kathy Fitch
Because I want to become more involved and participate as a connector.
- Trish Ridgway
just need followers
- Bill Majkowski
Bill: followers are overrated. But I'm following you now.
- Robert Scoble
Are you testing whether there's a limit to the number of comments in FF? ;)
- Janek Mann
I'm trying to straddle journalism, tech and sports all at once (can you straddle three things, by the way?). Looking for ideas and feedback ... @jondenunzio
- Jon DeNunzio
Forget followers, I would like just ONE comment on my FF! (BTW, your already following me Robert)
- David
I have nothing for you to read of any importance just random thoughts.LOl just wanted to throw my two cents in for what it is worth.
- stan fogo
Follow me if you like games and insights about game studies. I'm a game designer studying how to use game design to improve the experience of web applications. @kurai
- Federico [Kurai]
Not sure there are any limits on number of comments in a thread. Ffundercats used Friendfeed as live chat while recording an episode and got over 1500 http://beta.friendfeed.com/ffunder...
- Tom Landini
David - you should import more things then just Twitter then ;)
- Nicholas James
I drink http://friendfeed.com/public for dinner.
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
Best advice to those perusing this thread who are new to FriendFeed? Follow these folks: http://ffholic.com/Users...
- Nathan Chase
Oh, and today's my birthday, so follow me!
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
Someone should follow because of an affinity for either the subject matter, interests, or attitude someone else shows in other comments. I don't see it as a need, so much as a desire for company, interested in similar pursuits but different viewpoints and perspectives to contribute. I have been in tech for 30 plus years, yet have published my poems & fiction for just as long. I always have an articulate opinion and love to chat. I don't have as much time as I'd like 2 come to FF to engage with others.
- Phil Boiarski
My views are different than everyone else’s, that is the only good reason to follow anyone at all.
- John D Reasor
Another good reason to follow me: I don't use Facebook. How 'bout that?
- Steve "Daddy do it!" Lacy
Hi, i'm a french student in management. I'm mostly interested in IT, media, newspaper crisis and other stuffs (sometimes in french :s). I intend to be more and more active on FF in the future, so one day to another, you might have to follow me. Why wait ? :P
- Stanislas Jourdan
Interesting. I'm not sure that I'm a high contributor. I follow to feed on information. In doing so, I find people to engage.
- Valley
OK, I'm throwing my hat in. I've started contributing by linking all my accounts, and finally having a reason to use the share feature of Google Reader. It's awesome to add my voice to the conversation. But after a while, when none of my posts get any likes or comments, it can feel like you have to be super popular to get in on this. I'm a relatively new user, but it would be nice to have a few more followers at least.
- Matthew
beg? seriously? I'd rather not engage people If it requires begging. Well I see you used "beg" to spur engagement.. But I still don't like the word even if it resulted in the desired effect. I guess I'm just not that desirous of conversation simply for the sake of it but rather to expand my thought processes and to alleviate my biases
- Bill Rawlinson
Cuz I'm the last and newest person to post a comment here. Bananers.
- Harry Wolff
I tell it as it is. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
This reminds me of back when torrents first came out and I'd post stuff to see if anyone would download it. We're throwing stuff at the wall and seeing if any sticks. Friendfeed is a useful addiction.
- Matthew
LOL! Amazing how many people take offense to the words "beg" and "need" -I "need" more people to engage my thoughts. (What a great way of putting that) It would be nice if more people would see the things I post and comment on so that I would get out more from this little (but expanding) corner of FriendFeed. I have plenty to say, but only a handful of active people to critique it. Tech, SM, Dogs, humor. #funhashtags. Please help Robert, Louis and Jesse take a break from me ;) Introduce me to your friends!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I am far less interesting than @scobleizer... I am an early adopter with a private-beta-testing-program addiction. I offer loads of insight to developers, designers (and users at large alike) on this new stuff. I'm the one you want testing your app, service, nifty super cool product of the now. Follow me pretty please with microchips on top, I'm @tinym
- t i n y m
I don't want more followers, I want more engagement from existing followers. More subscribers is great and all - but if they're not going to engage, it doesn't excite me at all.
- Anthony Citrano
Nice idea! I'm not one to beg, but seeing as I could do with some more engaging followers, this is a bit of an experiment. Follow @daveinthecloud for predominantly tech, Apple and science-based updates.
- Dave
I use FriendFeed more to read interesting things I wouldn't normally see. I'm not always around and I don't always participate. Does that make me a bad person? (@elroy)
- elroy
Fun post! Lots of cool people to follow. Marketing and tech geek who happens to make wine in her basement. @bsmntbootlegger
- Karrie Sullivan
An impressive list of comments already. And I have found a few interesting people to follow here already. I guess it is all about "give and take".
- Mike Hellers
Ok, I'll bite: Why should you follow me? Because I post about science, math, music, programming and geek stuff with wit, style and panache.
- Chris Taylor
lol! I was making wine in my backpack on my bike trip this summer :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Follow me. Help make media history by reaching the first 10 million follows. ... Well I guess that won't work anymore.
- Keith Barrett
Mike: same here
- Frank Sant'Agata
There is a lot of talk in the comments about "audience", "SEO" & the "need" for followers, this all appears very $ orientated to me, maybe someone "influential" should start a conversation along the lines of "how can I make you happy on friendfeed"?
- William
if you are a geek into getting stories related to social media, geeky stories, pics, videos, tech related stuff, like bacon or lego or star wars. you will probably like my stuff. check it out....and hope to see you soon!
- (jeff)isageek
Unless you like NSFW stuff and LOLCats stuff, really nothing to see with following me. :P
- Christian (Simply X)
I'm game for more followers. I run research boats for a living and sometimes like to blog about that, my bad ass dog Jake (Silky Terrier) and other things I find interesting...tech, cool photos, hikes, etc...on my personal Posterous blog. I've been active on twitter for quite awhile but am fairly new to Friend Feed. I get a real kick out of most members of the Gillmor Gang and like following their conversations...maybe I'll start to engage more.
- Scott Schanke
William: I think ur missing the point, it's about being new to ff and having a voice.
- Frank Sant'Agata
Praise @Scoble for once again "starting" a conversation
- William
For me, the whole tech deal has always been a love of the game issue. It's like writing, that way, and teaching, too. Interesting how perspectives differ. I just thought of this as fun, and as an opportunity to learn and connect. Also, my inner English prof always thinks of "audience" as a matter of rhetoric first. A thing like this, for instance http://tinyurl.com/cxkzpo is its own reward: great chance to meet people, and it made me *really* hungry.
- Kathy Fitch
Lindsey - surely meeting more serial killers is not the answer. ;-)
- Brian Sullivan
See, there? Lindsey not only spells her name correctly, but also likes horror! Lindsey, I spent quite a few years teaching horror film! (The *best* students in those classes, oh my gosh--such an interesting mix.)
- Kathy Fitch
Dying (editorial aside: ah, that's strictly metaphorical) laughing, here.
- Kathy Fitch
I just subscribed to everyone in this thread that I wasn't already subscribed to. Why? I love participation. People commenting here participate.
- Thomas Hawk
Good plan Thomas I think I will do the same.
- Brian Sullivan
Hi. I'm Simon, i post a mashup of stuff from all sorts or genres. Photo's, art, tech, videos, games. I'm a bit of a 'i like everything' kind of guy. I try to get in on lots on convo's, and i never really leave FF, sometimes i just sit here idle and watch the world pass me by :)
- Simon Wicks
"That's an example of what I'd like you to do. I will follow anyone who answers on this thread" is that a promise robert ? :)
- goutham
that are some interesting question to address here...will people be more likely to get into friendfeed if more people follow them? or are people more keen on just sharing their thoughts and feelings with a select few? should there be a way to algorithmically increase the visibility of a post ? is that "fair" ?
- goutham
You should follow Pax Stereo Tv (www.paxstereo.tv) because we represent something NEW and DIFFERENT! While we lack the full sophistication of a traditional network, our "NeoUrban Internet Television" network is at least original and edgy, and we are streaming live Monday through Thursday every week! All this with only 3 full time staff! We represent YOU, the new breed! We are not perfect, but we keep it coming, and we are getting better. Peace. - Mario Hemsley CEO
- Pax Stereo Tv
What's the easiest way to go through and follow everyone here? I don't really have to go down the list one by one do I? I started to but thought there must be an easier way...
- Scott Schanke
Initiatives to free the world economy in ways that benefit the poor @openworld
- Mark Frazier
Scott: I had to add each one of my 14,377 subscriptions by hand, so so do you. Sorry, there isn't a way to "follow all" here. Which is a good thing, in my view.
- Robert Scoble
goutham: I am following everyone who has participated with a comment in this thread. Scott: you can see if you are following someone already by looking at the little icon to the left of their comment. If you are already following them, it'll be bluish. If you aren't, it'll be white.
- Robert Scoble
always be closing mario ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Ok thanks Robert...I'm just a bit frustrated that it keeps collapsing the conversation after each follow and therefore I have to find where the hell I left off...I'm plodding along though.
- Scott Schanke
Scott: I have this thread running in a popup Window. Here's how to do that. First, open this item up into its own Window by clicking here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/scoblei... Then click the time stamp (it says "5 hours ago" right now) and then it'll open up its own little Window. That makes it "live" and like a chat room. Scroll to the bottom and watch new items pop in.
- Robert Scoble
I follow smart, funny people, and I post/pass along all kinds of stuff. I never know what I'll come across next, anything from the effects of cancer treatment on IQ scores, to vintage cocktails, to news on weird fiction writers, to updates on the latest and greatest zombie games, to random questions and ideas that occur to me in the wee hours. I'm always looking for posts that have me saying, "Hmmmm, that's interesting...and here's why..."
- Heather
I'm not sure begging for followers is in our self interest, Robert. I find that the people who hawk themselves loudest aren't the people I make the best connection with. And it's that connection that matters whether it's a personal or professional.
- Susan Reynolds
Not sure if I need any followers, but I think people follow me because I'm so freakin awesome. Oh, you haven't heard of me? Find me on The Google. :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Oooooo.. Choose me. Choose me. Choose me. Oh wait. You already follow me. But anyone else is welcome to read my nonsense about whatever is on my mind. Lately - dissertation, teaching chemistry, thinking about some technology, and just fun family items (mainly my dog)
- LPH™ and his dog P™
i vote for LPH!
- michael sean wright
Susan: that's fair. But in friendfeed you can put people into lists. So you can subscribe to all the "beggers" and put them into "begged for follow" list. That way it won't mess up your other followers.
- Robert Scoble
LOL nicefishfilms ..
- LPH™ and his dog P™
nicefishfilms: I'm already following LPH. Weird, I've met both him and you in real life, too!
- Robert Scoble
I'd rather people follow me because I said something or posted something interesting.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Rahsheen: if you are on "the Google" then you MUST be awesome! I'm on "the Google" too. Search for "Robert." :-)
- Robert Scoble
Yep - I'm being followed - (looking behind me) - wait - why are you always in front of me then Robert?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Alan: you must have posted something interesting, because I'm following you. Either that or I thought you were that country singer! :-)
- Robert Scoble
LPH: you actually passed chemistry on the first try. I did not. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
Any interest in visiting Alaska? Find out why you should plan a trip to Fairbanks @insidealaska
- Inside Alaska
Robert: You're the first to mention it, actually. I wondered if the same thing was happening on Twitter. ;)
- CAJ, somewhere else
Inside Alaska: that's always been one of my life-long dreams. Interesting, I'm noticing more marketers setting up shop in friendfeed. Next come the celebrities! Alan: heh, probably!
- Robert Scoble
Here's why people follow me: http://beta.friendfeed.com/glenc...
- Mistletoe Glen
this thread is officially to long to follow on an iphone
- mike "glemak" dunn
mike: it's too long to follow on a 24-inch Apple display, too! :-)
- Robert Scoble
We are always striving to be the best. @abounding
- Abounding Media
Thanks for the "Hot Tip" Robert!! Much easier.
- Scott Schanke
Follow me for posts about social media, the publishing industry, online communities, funny pictures, and my coffee addiction. Oh, and babies. I run a baby site and have a baby so...expect some babies. I also enjoy swearing so there may be some of that.
- Kate
Follow me (@abbashaiderali) if you like a mix of tech, finance, cars, random, and personal content. Variety keeps me interested & you're cut from the same cloth, we'll get along just fine :)
- Abbas Haider Ali
You can't be shy. You need to have a voice and use it.
- Russ Jackson
I promote the issues that are important to those I follow. But follow me because I took the time to read through ALL of these responses... :) @rbucich
- Rick Bucich
I dunno about begging but new followers are always nice
- Angela P.
I will have to say, I found several new people this way, so thanks Robert. I know I need to get better at finding more people myself, a la the FFundercats podcast Louis Gray discussion.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
you better be following me .. Im a fireman and I haz an axe ..
- johnpiercy
I don't want 'followers' - vanity is my least favourite sin. I want stimulating conversations & interesting stuff to read/watch/etc.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I'm @ryandadey and I love the internet and would like to be more engaged with people who feel the same. I like to share through FriendFeed and Twitter interesting tech, science and environment articles from Google Reader, as well some of my own thoughts. It would be more fun if I knew people were seeing my stream!
- Ryan Dadey
I'm just this guy whose life has been revolutionized by the social web. I'm no "guru" or "expert," but because I live here so much, many people and even companies and organizations have asked me to guide them into this landscape, a responsibility that both scares and energizes me. Because of that, I seek to share, give, and help anywhere possible. Trying to make tons of connections; if you want to be one, thanks!
- Mark Traphagen
You should follow me so you can point out where I could use some help on things, because I'm an interesting person, and because you like a bit of the crazy in the folks you follow. I'm Chris Charabaruk and I approve this beg for readers. http://beta.friendfeed.com/coldaci... http://coldacid.net http://twitter.com/coldacid
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Beg, droool, beg :)
- Susan Beebe
Martin Bryant is right - now that the US is asleep, this thread has died down. Onward Europe, Middle-east, Asia ! :)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Thanks for the offer to follow us commenters Robert. I subscribe to all friendfeeders who leave comments as well. It's a great way to get to the heart of who's really participating in the trenches here on FF. BTW about me.. I started writing and acting when I was seven. I'm a musician/singer/songwriter and freelance writer/journo. I help others use the web to build an audience for their passion.
- Jesse Newhart
hmm, so it is quiet when the US are offline! Too bad, I'd love some more people to follow, be followed and have conversations with from the rest of the sphere. Widen the horizon.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
nice idea - unfortunately friendfeed gets unreadable with so much comments. btw: i'm friendfeeding mainly about technology, consulting, personal productivity, gtd...
- Alexander Benker
You should follow me because I tend to find interesting programming articles on the topics of: Django, Python, key-value stores, and more.
- Eric Florenzano
I don't care if people follow me or not. I've been writing online (Usenet) since 1989, before the web, but Google's index only seems to go back to 1992. Most of my stuff isn't even on my blog, it's in email lists and discussion threads such as http://tinyurl.com/df5kc2 and http://tinyurl.com/3gfqzj (better than anything I've written here). A sample will give you some idea: "By what...
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- Victor Panlilio
I like talking to people and having conversations. It's no fun being on the social web if I'm not engaging anybody, and I need followers and people to follow to do that.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
No question about it, people should at least attempt to read new and different drummers daily because following the followed will always leave you in the follower camp. They laughed at Bob Dylan, they laughed at Gary Vaynerchuck, where are *they* now?
- randulo
I tend to follow the people that interact with me on my imported items, if I am not already following you I apologies. Just drop me a DM and I will happily subscribe to your feed :)
- Joe Dawson
That's a tough one, Joe -- you can only DM folks who have subscribed to you...
- Eric Johnson
I don't give a crap about the other comments here - I need to make sure I have the Scobles following me. I mean, I think they are already. But still. Gotta cover my bases. As to WHY anyone should follow me: I like to think I take a humorous outlook on things, and can make you giggle at least once per day. Snark is my tool. Also, I'm earnest and naive, and I'll treat you with the respect you expect and deserve from the Internet. Also, cats flushing toilets: http://bit.ly/2Lx2w
- Mike Nayyar
A retail designer by day (mainly customer experiences for consumer electronics shoppers) and a geek by night. If you want to brainstorm about how you'd like to shop and find cool new products, I'd love to hear from you.
- Jason Goldberg
Hi, @cantor there, i'm an It Systems Specialist and a student (Computer Engineering in Pisa). I think you can follow me because i have ideas and opinions and i want to express them, i like to find & share and I'll do the best in "extreme multitasking mode" :P.
- CantorJF
follow me because scoble told me to beg =P
- Zafarali
@robbell You should follow me because you lack the motivation to follow more inspiring individuals :)
- Rob Bell
I just started on FF and find it very interesting because of the focus on interaction arround subjects... FB is mostly talk about nothing, and I'm the only one in my friend group posting articles that interest me. Follow if u like... that will kindda help out on the interaction part!
- Kevin Nordmand
Over 280 comments. Advantage of FriendFeed. Nice. Follow me for some interesting stuff online and offline. Geeky and non-geeky
- Kannan
I am @alexisbellido and you should follow me to find more about teleworking, the Web and online businesses. I recently started using social media to support good causes and make your opinion matter. Currently supporting fight against hemophilia
- Alexis Bellido
People should follow other people because something is said that rings true. Not because someone BEGS for it. Please don't take this comment as an invitation to follow me, thanks.
- Vincent van Wylick
@Vincent: Well said. Truth is like gravity: you can pretend it doesn't exist, but you can't ultimately escape from it.
- Victor Panlilio
cool self help group here! social media anonymous! :D
- Dieter Schwarz
Great idea Robert :)
- Zee.
Nearing 300 comments, the Scoble Effect indeed. Is that FF comment raffle over by the way?
- Adi
For me at least, it's not as important that you follow me as it is that I follow you. You are very likely not to be interested in the stuff in my feed (and that's ok with me, please don't follow me unless you really find my crap, interesting), but you might like me commenting in your threads, which is where I get the most enjoyment from friendfeed..in the conversations on other people's posts. I am not that good of a conversation starter, but I am very good at jumping in when someone else does the starting.
- April Russo (app103)
Follow me because I find unique interesting content before most people, I read allot and am subscribed to allot of popular and interesting feeds not many people know about!
- Kyle Weller
Most of my feed activity revolves around various creative, social, and mobile technologies. Usually my own ideas and experiences with my own projects, and not so much link sharing. I like to think of myself as a quality over quantity kind of guy, so I won't overload your stream. I plan on hiking the Appalachian Trail next year and documenting it on the web as I go, so that should be interesting. I'm 5'9'' and I weigh... wait... what is this for again?
- Daniel Sims
I often hear I am hard to follow. Maybe it's the Dutch. Maybe my wandering spirit.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Ruud: That's why I don't twitter in Dutch. In fact we should just all talk English ;)
- Peter Kruit
Well I already follow the green guy (Scobelizer) on Twitter and FriendFeed and he follows me. But since I'm just an average guy, working in the Nonprofit field, I've found it a bit difficult to acquire followers on FriendFeed (not nearly as difficult on Twitter). So if anyone is interested in following someone who shares an eclectic mix of thoughts and interests, please feel free.
- John A. Taylor
It does feel good to have activity on your feed. Makes me feel like someone is listening to me.
- Christian Burns
I'm just getting started with friendfeed and already find the discussions great. I'm looking forward to being able to contribute some of my own thoughts to the conversations. After all, there are a lot of great things happening based off the idea of a person and the energy of a group.
- John Spyers
I'd love to connect with more marketers here on FriendFeed - not just social media types, but business and marketing strategy peoples... Small business owners would be great, too.
- Dennis O'Neil
I don't beg either, but since you asked...I'm good for some silliness, the occasional deep thought, encouragement of discussion of any kind (mostly political), and a good song or two. I'd like some musicians and poets to get on board as well.
- Helen Sventitsky
I like art, music, 3D, electric guitar, analgog synths, puppets, making stuff, my family, metaplace. I blog about artsy process and put up sweet flickr images.
- sergiooo
I have 9 followers, one is Robert, but virtually no discussion. I'm one of the few people on FF that works with the government, works in a non-IT startup, and will recommend great economics and sustainability items.
- Chris Stevenson
I just don't buy it yet. There is still way too much noise, and I'm not one of those guys with the time to go through posts with 300 (mostly uninteresting) comments. I have to filter extensively to get just a simdgeon of the interesting articles I pull off of GReader with Feedly and comments from the blogs themselves. Friendfeed would be great with Real Life connections, but they are all on Facebook. Friendfeed has a major uphill battle ahead of them, despite their superior interface and technology.
- Phil Ashman
FF is a good twitter client though..;)...
- Phil Ashman
Begging time. Follow me and SherylBreuker here (@kencamp & @SherylBreuker on Twitter. Please follow us and check this post Sheryl & Ken: Project Denmark (for 48 hours) #48hoursindk at http://stardustglobalventures.com/2009... We'll take you on the road to Denmark via social media. Help us win!
- Ken Camp
Great thread! Found some goodies in here (and some crazies)
- Daniel Morgan
Hey, I'm in. You go, Robert!
- John Gerstner
Because no matter who you are, it takes followers to get followers. You have to start somewhere...
- GeekDads.TV
You hungry?
- Myrna
[LOGO] Beginner's On FriendFeed Group
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Guys! What do you think of this? Need input!
- vijay
I can't see the "B". :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
No. I don't like it. The one from yesterday was better.
- Admiral Anika
I would say make the beginners POP out more. My opinion.
- Amani
It is even the more clear when the size is reduced. I mean the "b" is established well.
- Praveen Vasudev
Seems a little disjointed and dark. Brighter, tighter, other fonts?
- Glen Group
Nice try, but it doesn't really work :/
- Kristian Salonen
Since "b" being a shadow, that was the best I could do. It's quite bright when you view it full size.
- Praveen Vasudev
you could just have "beginners" or "ff beginners" in the style of the Friendfeed logo.
- Raphael, Raphael
OK a more constructive observation: I like that we have the word "Beginners" and FF (though perhaps if we use FF we should stick with the official logo or, for me, the "FF" version?). I can't see the "B" at all. TBH, I liked the first logo more, I thought the background was good and bright. The only thing I didn't like about the first "Hi" logo was the "Hi". Perhaps use the first logo, and just have "FF Beginners" on two lines? What do you think?
- Kol Tregaskes
Yeah. That'll be good. This is just a concept Vijay and me came across. So I worked on it!! We'll choose the Logo based on the majority group :D
- Praveen Vasudev
OK, cool! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
what's wrong with FFreshmeat?
- Amber, Random Time Lord
@Amber +++
- Shevonne
FriendFeed L!eginners rule!
- Bwana ☠
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Would be nice to add liking comments. Liked Kol's observation.
- Glen Group
Here's a suggestion to all the graphically-oriented people who don't like the look of the new beta (including myself): Make a comp of how you think it should look... Post it and get some feedback... To the FF devs: take a look and maybe contract out with someone here to do the design if you like what you see.
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I probably won't have time to do it today, but I think it would be a cool exercise... Besides, if you don't like it, suggest a solution, right?
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Well, it looks a hell of a lot better using this - http://beta.friendfeed.com/ajbatac... - so that's not a bad starting point for any new design.
- Mark H
I agree Mark, I like AJ's version a lot better. But this is also an opportunity for all the graphic designers in the FF community to take a swing at this... maybe come up with something even more snazzy and quit bashing the stuff that's there.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
@Lindsey - you can look at it as spec work, or a chance to have a say in how something you love and use on a daily basis looks and feels. If the FF devs picked your design, even if you weren't paid for it, what awesome resume fodder!!
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I guess I look at FF as more of a hobby than a job. I would probably do something for free if I had the time. Again, if it were used, it would be nice cred to point to and say "I designed that!". Portfolios are often built on pro-gratis or did-it-for-peanuts work. If you've already got a big profile with paid clients I can understand the no-spec thing, but for people who are building their portfolios it's a great opportunity.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
That just doesn't make sense to me for people who aren't already fully established in the profession. How can you possibly get your name/work out there if you don't do any non-paid or cheap work to build your portfolio?
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Spec work is evil. :(
- Jason Shultz
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Ok, so maybe I shouldn't have said contract then... I had it more in my mind about doing it because I wanted to make FriendFeed better. Pro-bono or as the No-Spec site says "What is Pro Bono? Pro Bono is defined as providing a service without compensation. You donate your services for free or in some cases at a reduced fee that just covers basic expenses. Pro Bono is an excellent, ethical way to boost your portfolio." http://www.no-spec.com/working... I don't see anything wrong with volunteering.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
By "the design they do now" do you mean the beta or the current site? I actually liked the minimalist, clean, bright design of the old site fine. Nothing really got in the way. I don't like the new one because it feels closed-in or maybe it seems very 2005... But I think they they probably spent a good bit less time focusing on that than on the functionality. Again, it's a lot easier to...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
I am a developer but I have been working on the UI side of development for most of my career and focused significantly on the workflow and the way information is organized and presented. But that's a different part of the development cycle than the graphic design (which I have also had occasion to work on). Information flow is the functionality of the site, not the look and feel. Both...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
And my main points were that 1) this is a beta that is most likely about the functionality of the site because most of FF's staff are developers and not designers and 2) the graphic design portion could easily be changed in the beta if they got enough feedback. I don't think their focus has ever been on the look and feel but on providing functionality. The layout has changed several times, and will probably continue to do so if they get feedback. Maybe they should consider hiring an IA or HCI person.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Who says they don't care about it? I know a lot of developers (in fact most developers I know) don't have graphic design skills but that doesn't mean they don't care about how their app looks. And yes, most development shops do have a designer on staff to handle that aspect since devs usually aren't skilled in it. But FF is a small house and maybe, just maybe, they don't have a budget...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
... to make the product you use better. It is free, after all. Bleh... whatever... nevermind. Seems like every time I've tried to come back online lately I just end up in an argument.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I liked your suggestion, Lindsay. Free submissions seem to be more socially acceptable for software developers than they are for designers, so you might never win them over.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Coders do that ALL THE TIME. Look at AJ Batac's plugin today and Benjamin Golub's mobile version... Did anyone pay them to do that? You give a programmer an API and a core functionality that he loves and you'll get free extensions out of them. Then they get a reputation for interesting work and get more paid work out of it. It's part of the job... it's part of being a good developer.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Lindsay, a small point about Ben -- it's great he was recognized for his work, but other developers like Carter Rabasa (http://www.cubanlinks.org, http://friendfeed.com/cubanli...) has written several FriendFeed and Disqus enhancements that were eventually replicated by the respective businesses without any credit to him.
- Phil G
+1 Phil. At least Carter gets a few mentions from other FFers like us.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I know Phil... that's a "danger" you face... but you can still point to "I did it first and they copied it from me" and it still promotes you. And as a developer you learn from writing that code and build stuff you can reuse on other projects. It's never a wasted effort.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Ok, point there. Still, the glory is nice too, sometimes.
- Phil G
And yes, I appreciate the guys who haven't "hit the big time" in recognition like Carter and directeur and Hao. But you do it because you love it and you want to give back to something you use and enjoy.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
IIRC Louis Gray claimed some influence on Ben's hiring, too. It might help to A) live in the area and B) get a top user who is also a respected blogger to put in a good word.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@Lindsey - yes those discussions are crucial to being successful on a project. But in this case, you know exactly what the business needs are... you're a user of FF for (I'm guessing) probably close to a year now... Other than for features they haven't released that are in the planning stages you know what FF does and what would make it look better. There's no better person to help make the product better than someone who uses it every day and is intimately familiar with everything it does.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
LOL! Well, you COULD be! ;)
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Very well done Lindsey, thanks so much for taking the time to mock that up and share it with us.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Can you add service icons, maybe as a small overlay in the bottom right of the avatar or something, to your mockup? I think it would really help make the oint about what's missing with those indicators gone.
- Mr. Gunn
Can anyone recommend a good mechanic that does spec?
- Glen Group
@robinanderson Didn't get it on video, just a rather bad photo of the moose in the woods-looks more like a large dog!
Can you post the pic? We can photoshop antlers on it! ;-)
- Glen Group
Single WTF with Cheese - http://rattipillo.tumblr.com/page...
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@nancysclark Can we get one to replace the "Fatboy"?
- Glen Group
A flower doesn't turn toward the sun b/c it needs to, but b/c it wants to, and so the process is effortless & joyful. www.tut.com
Are you feeling inspired today?
- Glen Group
For the book title: Crushing it or Crush it? @garyvee me
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crush it is much better
- Peter Stuifzand
CRUSH It!
- Chad Simmons
A grape reference, no doubt... Crush it!
- Glen Group
Which one?
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Is this for a site logo? The last one if I had to choose among the 3. I just don't think the font for you name is backed up by the font chosen. KWIM?
- Admiral Anika
Yeah, it's for a interactive resume site for a class. So a different font?
- Aaron Hood
Hey Aaron... taking critiques? Is there a need for the background? Would be cleaner/stronger without...
- Glen Group
Transparent or just no pattern?
- Aaron Hood
I think the background look "dated" and busy. My idea of letterhead, logos, etc. is clean and strong. The background doesn't really add anything. The type choice, leading, kerning, color choice etc. should speak for themselves unless you add a design icon. It really becomes something good when you have an idea what it represents without reading the words! Maybe infuse it with some color to show more energy?
- Glen Group
I agree with everything Glen said. I'm not fond of the background, which is why I chose the last one. You can barely see it. I think the font is okay for the tagline, but for you name, you definitely need something stronger. And since this is for a resume site, I'd skip the fancy fonts altogether. Let the experience speak for itself.
- Admiral Anika
Gotcha. I'm going with a serif font for the name and tagline and a muted paper-ish color.
- Aaron Hood
$0.02 worth. Like most, I do not care for the patterned backgrounds. I prefer a solid colour background, though a moresubtle texture might work. My biggest negative is for the tagline. While I can easily read Aaron Hood, the items below are harder to read. The colour of the font is weak and it conveys the same. If you want another colour, I would suggest something both darker and stronger.
- Carey Miller
What's the difference between Friendfeed and Facebook? List them out below:
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Facebook defaults to non-live, which is much easier for the mainstream user. I'd still like an in-between though. Update every 2 minutes or so.
- Jesse Stay
it will take 5 years for your parents to get on friendfeed ;-)
- Damian Holmes
like the old FriendFeed :-)
- Jesse Stay
#1: No annoying spammy apps on FF. That is all.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Search - you can search for information anywhere on FriendFeed, you can't do that on Facebook.
- Hutch Carpenter
Because of Facebook photos, in-depth profiles and wall posts, I think you can get a more accurate picture of who a person is on Facebook. FB is more social than it is a network IMO
- Michael
Subscribing - FriendFeed is the one-way follow, Facebook is the two-way subscribe model. FriendFeed lets you follow anyone, whether you know them or not.
- Hutch Carpenter
Facebook has applications, but Friendfeeed does not
- Jeremiah Owyang
They are different websites.
- James Ferguson
"like" on Facebook doesn't bump the item on the top. "like" on Friendfeed doesn't notify you of new activity on that item.
- Morton Fox
Relationships are asynchronous on friendfeed but not on facebook. I can subscribe to you but you're under no obligation to subscribe to me on FF.
- Derek van Vliet
Facebook is private, friendfeed is for public conversations.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook lets you automatically associate with a company or region. For FriendFeed, any such association would have to be manually created via a room.
- John E. Bredehoft
+1 for Derek van Vliet
- Jeremiah Owyang
My blog post today says that this new beta takes aim at Facebook: http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2009...
- Hutch Carpenter
Facebook requires a 'real' identity, Friendfeed does not
- Jeremiah Owyang
You can create 'imaginary users' in FF, but not in Facebook
- Jeremiah Owyang
Friendfeed: fine control over what is displayed and good search. Facebook: don't miss things just because you were not there for the real-time stream.
- Shamir Katsu
Facebook still not streaming, no matter what they call it.
- Matt Martin
+1 for Derek van Vliet. The difference is relationship.
- Ninh Nguyen
Watching this grow in real time, this is a REAL time chat room, Facebook is not
- Jeremiah Owyang
Good point J - is FF the new liveblog?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
FriendFeed is the real deal.
- Chrimmus Tad
FB is not about conversation!
- Vinit Sharma
Friendfeed is one step away from track; Facebook is still figuring out what the term means.
- Karoli
agree with ron k jeffries: Facebook is more of a hub; Friendfeed is more of a stream of activity
- Chris Rogers
All of my friends are on Facebook, none are on Friendfeed
- Jamie
That is, how are FF threads going to compete with Twitter hashtags when it comes to blogging conference sessions or other live events?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
What Jamie said.
- John Samuelson
facebook is and should only stay as an advanced phonebook
- Stuart Evans
For the most part, in Facebook, I follow people because I know them. Here, I follow people because I find their output interesting. Hence I use Friendfeed much much more than I do Facebook, which is largely full of idiotic quizzes and inane apps to join.
- Ian May
This is a *great* way to handle Scoble's famous "Here's why:" threads.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
facebook is for old and new friends you want to talk or hear from once week, friendfeed is a conversation everyday
- Damian Holmes
FriendFeed is a live discussion -meeting place -Facebook is more like a home..I like them both, but spend more time on friendfeed, because my interest is in the discussion...not just "hanging out"
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Liked the old FF UI since I could slow down the noise and filter out "real-time"
- tony
Daniel, that's a good point - maybe they could make the comments real-time, but allow you to just pause the updates (or slow them down). I can handle real-time comments on updates - that's kinda nice, actually.
- Jesse Stay
Super awesome bonus feature: As the owner of this new thread, wouldn't it be cool if Jeremiah could mix in another feed? Let's see this conversation interlaced with (or side by side with) a search on FF or on Twitter for relevant threads.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Facebook sucks - FriendFeed doesn't :-) Also - people who I don't want to talk to from High School are not on FF
- andy brudtkuhl
Now that this cool discussion is going on, I want to see what else is happening in the "FF Beta" discussion space right now, without leaving this page. Better to let J (or any reader honestly) create the link and share it in-thread.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Was wondering about this.
- Roberto Bonini
Jesse, that's a good idea, I noticed it ques up the updates, maybe we could adjust the que....
- Stuart Evans
I like being able to Queue a specific conversation. Might be better putting new comments on the top to avoid the need to scroll.
- Glen Group
Facebook now doesn't care about relationship as much as before. It's not really real anymore. I see smb has thounsands of friends that's impossible but still remaining real identity.
- Ninh Nguyen
Facebook is an utility for social relationships, Friendfeed is a tool to manage information and communication.
- heri
heri - that's my thought as well
- Hutch Carpenter
Facebook deploys an algorithm to determine feed contents. FriendFeed is "all".
- Alan Edgett
Friendfeed is more about connecting with content while Facebook is more about connecting with friends.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Instant niche conversations on micro-topics like this one right here is a big ++ vs. FB.
- William Mougayar
FriendFeed has Early Adopters, facebook has your Grandma
- Susan Beebe
FriendFeed has smart Googler's that earned their way to achieving fabulous product success; not a spoiled kid from Harvard who stole someone else's code to launch his product
- Susan Beebe
FriendFeed is constantly innovating and leading the way while facebook copies them.
- Susan Beebe
FriendFeed actually cares about user feedback and utilizes this info to release product improvements; whereas, facebook continually pisses off their customers with unreasonable TOS and other crap
- Susan Beebe
+1 Susan!
- Charlie Anzman
LOL @andy friendfeed is the innovator, facebook is the gorilla
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Facebook is defined by its many modes of direct interaction, whereas FriendFeed has a couple of means for direct interaction and many modes of passive interaction...
- Clay Newton
FF is for the hyper-active. Internet has 5 speeds: LinkedIn, Facebook, Google, Twitter, FriendFeed.
- William Mougayar
Shld be re-named FriendSpeed.
- William Mougayar
FriendSpeed - Too Fast, Too Furious
- Jesse Stay
Pause. Manual refresh. Works for Me.
- Ian May
lol Jesse
- Karim
I don't use Facebook - that's the big difference for me :)
- LPH™ and his dog P™
LPH, exactly. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Facebook is a steaming pile of crap that makes it easy for people to annoy you with quizzes and crap. FF rocks.
- Jeremy Brooks
#1 for Haggis. I'm getting sick of the "apps" on Facebook. Gah.
- Amy H.
seems like a live news feed on cnn of some sort.
- quang ngo
FriendFeed has less of a focus on connections and community...
- Simon T Small
OK. Everyone -- STOP posting for one minute and let me catch up
Loren Heiny, Morton Fox, David Gross and 13 other people liked this
Phew - thanks - now I feel better ;)
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Or, you can click "pause" and relax! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Someone mentioned that if you click the Comment button on any feed it will make it stop temporarily
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
But then it builds up. In the time it takes to write this comments, I have 12 things queued up
- Tyler (Chacha)
Time to make some lists. :)
- Rob
If you want to slow things down, click "Filters", give your new filter a name, check "My friends and groups" and click "Save Filter". Then use that filter as your main view. It won't refresh automatically, and you can just reload when you like. (At least it won't refresh automatically for now... that's coming)
- Ken Sheppardson
Yeah, it is almost like a conditioning thing. We were given lists beforehand to prepare for the next release, where here, it is almost required to have lists if you use the real time
- Tyler (Chacha)
Well, the challenge is that when I stop the flow then the queue builds up real fast - I had 83 queued before 30 seconds -- I can do this though - just have to think different about this whole concept.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Using Twhirl, slows things down nicely...
- Glen Group
from twhirl
It's a little crazy when you post a comment because the moment you submit it, everything that was queued up appears, it's crazy!!
- Niall Connellan
Niall, I agree
- LPH™ and his dog P™
It looks like the new friendfeed beta even has better Permalinks. With username & all. Better for SEO. #friendfeed
AJ Kohn, Jamie, Dobromir Hadzhiev and 10 other people liked this
Took me a while to find the link because I learned it the old way. Now you just mouse over the timestamp like you would on any other site.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Ah thanks for the tip Daniel!
- Meryn Stol
That's cool!
- Robert Scoble
Yeah me too :)
- Svartling
Good point!
- Paul Jacobson
Yeah very useful.
- Svartling
Good job Svartling! Useful indeed.
- Sanne Buurma
That's helpful. Thanks.
- Glen Group
Thanks :)
- Svartling
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