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It's real time. Compare: http://friendfeed.com/search... to http://search.twitter.com/search...
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I like FriendFeed real time "look" much better that twitter's
- Qbat aka Larsen
Me too.
- Robert Scoble
the FF search is for folks sending to FF only, though, right? not the twitter firehose + FF?
- Karoli
i see twitter and ff in the search return.
- Chris Jackson
Karoli: right. They must be on FF and putting their Twitter here.
- Robert Scoble
i think it should be a requirement for anyone who signs up to twitter also push their updates to FF :)
- Jim Halligan @jim
Looking forward to a day when FF envelops the entire Twitter stream. FF would be the ultimate twitter client.
- Daniel Sims
Daniel: It almost already is the best Twitter client!
- Jim Connolly
Twitter itself seems to be very slow today. Not realtime at all...
- Marlin Forbes
FF seems cleaner, but I do like seeing trending topics on the right in twitter..
- monkeystick
i need a mac based friend feed client and then its all go on FF... until then i gotta stick with twitter...
- Brian Page
Today, Google engineers announced a technology called PubSubHubbub that makes RSS/Atom more real-time, and they deployed the technology on FeedBurner. FriendFeed also added support for the technology, so if you have a FeedBurner feed, your updates should show up in FriendFeed within seconds rather than minutes after the feed updates.
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To enable it for your FeedBurner feed: go to Feedburner, click on the "Publicize" tab, and then click on "PingShot" and enable the PingShot service. That will enable PubSubHubbub and send your feed to a number of ping services.
- Bret Taylor
what, right now? i mean immediately? From today?
- Zee.
Zee: yes, right now!
- Benjamin Golub
Zee: yes, from today, though the technology is very much "in beta," so I am sure there will be hiccups.
- Bret Taylor
Excellent, thank you Bret and FF, will switch this on now. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
WOW.
- Zee.
Nice - thanks Bret!
- Jim Connolly
RSS is back in the game... then
- Yann Ropars
This is very cool
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Once step closer to being able to build an open distributed twitter like system!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
this has been done already by superfeedr.com - google's behind the game on this one, but def takes it mainstream.
- Scott Magdalein
I don't understand. Updates won't appear on Feedburner in realtime, so what's the point?
- Peter
Peter: most blogging platforms ping Feedburner when you post a new entry, Feedburner pulls down the feed, Feedburner then pings the hub, then the hub notifies FriendFeed :)
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks Benjamin. Alas, my feeds are not that sophisticated.
- Peter
We're still working out kinks so if you have any issues please send me a message!
- Brett Slatkin
You lost me at "Today" I shall now just smile and nod politely
- Steve C
Where's the spec?
- Dave Winer
Dave: http://pubsubhubbub.googlecode.com/svn.... Edit: Brett beat me by nanoseconds!
- Benjamin Golub
If I understand correctly this essentially turns any site with a feedburner feed into a real time publisher? But to read it in real time you need what?
- BryanSchuetz
Since this is a Google thingie, does it work on Google Reader already?
- Tarmo Aidantausta
FriendFeed can receive the pings *RIGHT NOW*
- Brett Slatkin
guys, how long are we really talking before it should appear here? Seconds or minutes?
- Zee.
The Reader integration is a prototype; more to come soon!
- Brett Slatkin
no way, so Google Reader could technically go real time??
- Zee.
That would be cool, wouldn't it? =)
- Brett Slatkin
I stopped reading here: "RSS isn't supported for simplicity." Laughing. Out. Loud.
- Dave Winer
I better make sure i get post titles right the first time round.....
- Zee.
Brett - any chance i could ask you a couple of questions via email or dm?
- Zee.
Hey Dave that's my mistake. We support RSS! http://code.google.com/p... I need to update the spec.
- Brett Slatkin
is that SUP's role take up by those rss accelerator? or SUP is losing a chance to propagate in this field?
- huixing
Huixing: we plan to support all widely adopted real-time standards to make FriendFeed better. We are not tied to SUP only.
- Bret Taylor
from iPhone
Brett, why didn't you use the weblogs.com ping protocol? Your comment there about RSS, right up front, really captures the whole philosophy -- right? Let's just reinvent stuff that already works, so... Why? To break everything that already works? It won't happen that way. It'll only make your adoption curve steeper.
- Dave Winer
Would you ping me (dave dot winer at gmail dot com) when I can use RSS with this system. I'll be happy to evaluate it and provide feedback if necessary, and endorse it if it works. Thanks in advance.
- Dave Winer
Alright we've fixed in the spec Dave. Sorry for the mistake. Followed up.
- Brett Slatkin
Who does this remind you of?
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Poor Cat, I'd probably be all scratched up if I tried that with my cat
- Keith Wagner
What times of the day do you use #FriendFeed? Do you earmark a slot each day/week? Do you jump in and out all day?
J. D. Ebberly, Chris Loft, Tyson Key and Joe Dawson liked this
I check my page and the Best of page quickly in the morning now and then go off until about 5pm (or least that's the plan) when it's busy anyway. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Whenever the opportunity presents itself I try and get involved
- Joe Dawson
from iPhone
Sparely throughout the day (at work), then at lunch, and usually on-and-off throughout the average evening.
- Mitch
In & out all day, actually you can see what my activity looks like here: http://www.feedstats.info/lanjack...
- LANjackal
I use FriendFeed a lot each day - I really LOVE this place! :) :)
- J. D. Ebberly
Some people think I look like Robert Redford. Of course, those same people think that carrots can talk.
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Funny!
- Alison Robb Astair
Carrots? pfftt..don't be silly.. everyone knows celery is the speaking sprout
- Bwana
I always thought it was broccoli. Doesn't it have an advanced stem or something?
- l0ckergn0me
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What's the most annoying grammatical error you see by others? What grammar error really frustrates you?
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Getting 'their' and 'there' round the wrong way!
- Kol Tregaskes
your vs you're
- Jemm
it's for its and vice versa... it frustrates me partly because I do it myself sometimes!
- Jim:Rockin the Helvetica
Jim just beat me to it (it's and its).
- Abby Martin
i.e versus e.g.
- Curtis Jackson
All of the above! :)
- samgrover
Curtis, yep.
- Kol Tregaskes
Jim, yeah I'm sure I get that wrong sometimes too.
- Kol Tregaskes
ya'll vs. y'all, among others
- Steve Lowe
"phase" instead of "faze"
- Morton Fox
its all good, Kol. ;-P
- Jim:Rockin the Helvetica
Spelling things phonetically bugs me considerably. And I think that's part of the problem behind the they're/there/their issue.
- Mitch
Not so much a grammatical error is "to loose" instead of "to lose", I see it all the time these days
- M F
Make the language simple
- کاکا حاجی
theirs nothing that phases me as much as loosing a game
- Morgan Haley
Getting you're and your wrong.
- Alex Scoble
'irregardless' and 'pacifically' - and many of those mentioned above.
- Patrick Jordan
Grammatical and lexico-orthographical errors are not the same thing.
- Christopher Carr
Most of mine have already been named. One more: Using "I" and "me" incorrectly, i.e. "My mother bought a present for my husband and I."
- Trish R
Me fail grammar? Unpossible!
- Jemm
I've asked this before but it is = it's right? Simple as that.
- Kol Tregaskes
Alex, yes another really annoying one.
- Kol Tregaskes
LOL, Morgan.
- Kol Tregaskes
کاکا حاجی, hehe, yes please. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
affect and effect
- Chris Rogers
from BuddyFeed
Yes, Kol...it's equals it is
- Alex Scoble
I find it too annoying when people get to and too and even two, mixed up!
- Ian May
For me, it's a misused apostrophe. Don't use 's for plural items. Learn the difference between its and it's.
- Sally Robinson
oh yeah - and can't forget the randomly, placed comma
- Chris Rogers
from BuddyFeed
All of the above, but lately it's been the "c/sh/would of". Just *think* about it. It's makes NO sense. c/sh/would have - c/sh/would've. DUH.
- Anika Malone
If I can read it and get the meaning, then it doesn't really frustrate me. I'm the forgiving type. Liv and let liv. :-)
- Paul W. Homer
The comma issue is a huge pet peeve of mine, good call Chris.
- Mitch
Using then instead of than. For instance: "I like it more then this." Ugh... so bad!
- CJ Guest
Having a shitty job in college where I asked "Can I help you?" and the jerk said, "I don't know, MAY you?"
- Head Ov Metal
On more that I see mostly on parenting boards is 'dialation'. NO. SUCH. WORD. It's 'dilation'.
- Anika Malone
Anika, dialation is the high feeling you get when dialing a number on a phone. :)
- Alex Scoble
^ROFL
- Anika Malone
Anika: "Could of" and "could've" are nearly homophones. The spoken quasi-modal is "coulda." You're seeing grammaticalization driven by phonological reduction.
- Christopher Carr
Yus . . . + samgrover + Morgan Haley + Sally Robinson and + with the sentiments of Paul W. Homer - 'twould be nice to see a colon or semicolon used now and then. Hyphenation of double-barreled adjectives is also a common problem. Chris Carr, I think that while spelling, grammar and punctuation may not semantically be the same thing - they are intrinsically linked. -(
- Chris Loft
Your and you're. If your with me on this, write you're own comment here.
- Tom Landini
People getting "an" and "and" all mixed up. There is a decline in grammar in the US that can be seen online that is seen as "fashionable", especially on message boards. It is utterly disgusting.
- J. D. Ebberly
Oh another, cue vs. queue. Too many people talk about their Netflix 'cue'. It's not like that on the site, I gently correct them by using the right word and they still insist on using 'cue'. Not the same.
- Anika Malone
During break at CrunchUp. all the Twitter geeks eagerly chattering about... Twitter. Echo....echo ... Echo...
Posted Day 5 summary of CRTC net neutrality hearing. Incl. managed IP v. public net; 24/7 Cogeco throttle, & blame P2P. http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content...
Friday office catering is greek food. Lots of garlic. Hoping no one has client meetings today!
I am writing a book about Friendfeed (how to get the most out of it for content publishers). What do you want to see covered?
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Topics such as what does real-time mean to the Internet and society..:)
- K.D.
You got it K.D.
- Brandon Mendelson
How reputation evolves in such an environment.
- Micah Wittman
Is content publishing a one-way or two-way street?
- Micah Wittman
Micah, I will make sure to address those topics for you:-)
- Brandon Mendelson
Look forward to it, Brandon :)
- Micah Wittman
a unique convergence of web 2.0 social sites functionalities, first time real time updating, ... British press calling Friendfeed a revolution, new Beatles of the web, a radical departure ...
- Petr Buben
@Petr, This will be covered at the start, great suggestion:-). I won't dig too deep as I'd like to make the book something anyone can pick up and immediately use.
- Brandon Mendelson
This'll be interesting. Perhaps you might be interested in what Purefold is planning to do with FF: http://friendfeed.com/purefol...
- Kol Tregaskes
A group of user photos, and FriendFeed in the middle.
- Matt ❖
I've reshared this to the FF-Talk group here: http://ff.im/53Bf8
- Kol Tregaskes
Thank you @Kol
- Brandon Mendelson
What questions do you hear most often from newbies to FF?
- Brandon Mendelson
che simpatico Google Chrome! E' andato in crash e al riavvio s'è dimenticato tutte le schede aperte :-(((
Quante schede avevi aperte al momento del crash?
- Jacopo
una ventina, ma arrivo anche a più del doppio senza problemi
- Luca Conti
prism?
- giorgio gelardi
Ma che razza di browser usi oh?!
- Iron Mauro
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damn. Safari/Flash crashed taking my 120 important tabs with it. Perhaps its a sign?
They ought to call the CrunchUp a ReInventAThon. Let's recreate incompatible versions of stuff that already exists.
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Wait until Chris Pirillo @chrispirillo sees the T-shirt I'm wearing in my "discussion" with @arrington. I bet he'll like it.
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When are you on Robert (UK time)?
- Jim Connolly
hehe...
- Keven
isn't it under embargo still?
- dannysullivan
Is ANYONE there NOT using a Mac?
- Jim Connolly
Jim: supposedly in about 24 minutes, but my video test hasn't gone well so far.
- Robert Scoble
Ooops!
- Jim Connolly
Don't let us down Robert!
- Mark
Mark: I can watch the live stream, so know the connection is working.
- Robert Scoble
I LOVE that Robert's due on stage shortly, his video's not working YET HE STILL finds time to use FriendFeed.
- Jim Connolly
Jim: what better way to tell the techs at TC to call me? :-)
- Robert Scoble
Internet problems always..
- Keven
Well, Robert, I hope you manage to get on.
- Josh Chandler
So I take it you and Arrington made up?
- Jesse Stay
That was kind of funny that no one uses AIM
- Mark
In the room anyways, tens of millions use it world wide
- Mark
I just started using AIM, had an account forever, and hadn't found the need until now!
- Josh Chandler
Don't people just use IM for cyber sex?
- Mark
Robert can you post a photo for we who can't view the feed?
- Keith Barrett
from Android
Robert: Only you would think of that - :-)
- Jim Connolly
Keith, I can't, sorry.
- Robert Scoble
http://www.ustream.tv/channel... is live video.
- Robert Scoble
all the chat in the ustream room is we want scoble and loic now hehehe
- Mark
the adobe man is using IE 7. lol
- Mark
Robert could use your xray vision on a monetization model. And if you like it an introduction to a friendfeed decision maker.
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
W... T... F...?
- l0ckergn0me
If this is what I hope it is, put me on the list. I want!
- Keith Barrett
l0ckergn0me I'm wearing my Gnomedex shirt from last year. Figured that if I was gonna be called a mob leader I should have a shirt that says "Human Circuitry" on it. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Actually, this year's Gnomedex shirt should be substantially better. Will have a design posted soon. Working with a very well known vendor in the t-shirt space directly this time.
- l0ckergn0me
I love how Robert still calls Chris l0ckergn0me - and even includes the 0s haha. Btw, is it me or are there no visuals on the stream? :(
- Mona Nomura
I didn't see any, 3g iPhone buffering....almost home 21miles of walking feels good, did the same yesterday
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
7 Ways FriendFeed Could Better Engage the Flickr Community - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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My friend Robert Scoble has a blog post out talking about the reasons why FriendFeed is not seeing the sort of growth that Twitter and Facebook are. Personally I consider FriendFeed to be a vastly superior platform to both Facebook and Twitter, but it is interesting noting that it does not seem to be getting the traction of these other services. That said, I think that there is a huge opportunity for FriendFeed to better engage a very large existing community that is Flickr and to offer power user sort of tools for Flickr’s most active users. I’ve already written in the past about how I think the existing version of FriendFeed represents a superior way for people to browse Flickr than Flickr itself, but I think that FriendFeed could go a lot further and could definitely attract more (and super active) Flickr users if they improved things even more. So this list represents seven ways that I think FriendFeed could build a better way to engage with the Flickr Community. It should be...
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- Thomas Hawk
I gave up browsing Flickr when I found FriendFeed well over a year ago. I have many, many groups for browsing photography on FriendFeed. In particular my Flickr Photography group: http://friendfeed.com/flickr-...
- Kol Tregaskes
Agree about importing your Flickr contacts, been asking for that for eons. Similar request for importing non-FF Twitter friends would be cool too. I've manually added my favourite Flickr photographers, a chore, so an automated feature would be most welcome.
- Kol Tregaskes
Freind Feed is great at being Freind Feed and Flickr is great at being Flickr
- Kevin Hatton
Quick tip if you do import your Flickr streams as a custom RSS into FF, use Ivan's Feed-Buster: http://feed-buster.appspot.com/ to get larger thumbnails.
- Kol Tregaskes
Kevin I disagree. Both are great services for what they are. But Flickr no longer innovates. They are a static service sort of on autopilot. There's a need for power users to grow beyond what Flickr currently offers and fortunately Flickr has a robust API where these users can flock to things like greasemonkey scripts and FriendFeed to improve their Flickr experience. People like Kol...
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- Thomas Hawk
Agree with point 6 too. That would be cool. Also the ability to separate Flickr user's favourites and their own photos would be most welcome. I like to have a group for each separately.
- Kol Tregaskes
I actually wish FF would not import Flickr photos in batches. They wouldn't do that with any other kind of imported media, and I think it makes it difficult to have any sort of engaging discussion around photos on FriendFeed.
- Michael Hocter
how would you suggest they import flickr photos instead Michael?
- Thomas Hawk
Point 7 sounds interesting. The saved searches are OK but the Best of Day/Week/Month feature would be great for this if it worked on searches.
- Kol Tregaskes
One at a time, just like they do any other feed item. I understand why this would be a pain for Flickr favorites and people who post in huge batches at a time, but most of us only post a few photos at a time.
- Michael Hocter
I like being able to see the Flickr favorites of other FFers since I find new and interesting Flickr users that way, much more than I do through Flickr itself. I don't mind having them come in batches. A particularly interesting photograph can always be given its own post.
- John
Michael, I'm OK with that, what annoys me though is when it imports a batch, you go fave more then it reimports them and removes the old import with all the comments and likes. I'd like to fave a batch of pics, force a redresh, then fave some more then force another refresh and have both these come in as separate batches.
- Kol Tregaskes
I guess I think showing photos one at a time would be super noisy. For someone like me who imports about 300 photos into Flickr a week this would mean 300 separate entries on FriendFeed. I think that would detract from the overall FF user interface and experience. I think they are doing the batch posting fine now, but it's just that they are doing it backwards and opposite of how flickr shows photos on Flickr.
- Thomas Hawk
Michael, use an RSS feed of your stream with he Feed-Buster service, that's exactly what you're after.
- Kol Tregaskes
Having Flickr photos come one at a time would be really annoying, at least for me. It would crowd out everything else in my feeds.
- John
Thomas, like my stream from vi.sualizue.us? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Another feature I'd like: In search, I wish I could separate Flickr uploads from Flickr favorites. I prefer to talk to the people who actually take and upload the photos, but when you search, the majority of photos you see are from Flickr favorites.
- Michael Hocter
Kol, your vi.sualizue.us stream rocks!
- Thomas Hawk
Michael, agree. I've never been able to separate the two.
- Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, thanks Thomas. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Michael I agree with that idea as well. I think maybe the two can be one by default, but give users an option to split them if they want. I'd much rather be able to view the two independently.
- Thomas Hawk
As the open version of Facebook, Ff needs to develop these relationships and fast. Facebook wants you to use their picture storage, their blog engines, their music addons, keeping you inside the Facebook walls. Ff just as Thomas says, NEEDS to show that they can build something better by letting everyone decide which stand alone services serve their needs best, and all these can be...
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- Matthew DeVries
@Michael - yes! I prefer to know which are faves and which are posts.
- JA Castillo (جاسون)
There are many ways FF could be improved to help us photo-happy people (and most features would benefit the community in general), such as the ability to search for entries with pictures *only* (on it's way I believe), search by date/time, be able to search by selective imported feeds, e.g. I cannot search for my vi.sualize.us images only, etc.
- Kol Tregaskes
FF could even go further and let you sign into flickr and then you can like and comment and it flows back to flickr
- Phill Price
hear hear Phill
- Thomas Power
It would be pretty slick if I could hover over a photo on FF and fave it on flickr. I think that would take more than basic API stuff though.
- Thomas Hawk
@Phill - that would be too much!! I would never leave FF! :)
- JA Castillo (جاسون)
For me, FriendFeed needs to improve for new users. For instances the suggested users list is not the way to go and the lack of introduction to the service's features upon registration is virtually non-existent. When a new user has completed registration it needs a quick and simple Flash anim to demonstrate FF's basic features (an adapted version of one of Ross' videos would be cool),...
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- Kol Tregaskes
Faving a Flickr photo on FF would be super!!
- Kol Tregaskes
JA, exactly. ;-) But that lies the problem, Flickr perhaps wouldn't want that?
- Kol Tregaskes
The suggested users list on FF definitely needs to incorporate activity and not just popularity. That's a whole other subject though.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas, yep. Sorry going off in all directions. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I suspect Flickr could be resistant to some of these ideas. After all, attention on the internet is a zero sum game and making FF that much better for hardcore flickr users could siphon off traffic from them. Still, I bet a bunch of this could be done through the API as it stands now.
- Thomas Hawk
I prefer to see at least a medium-sized version of a photo before I fave it, so I doubt I would fave through FF if such an option existed. Agreed with most of Thomas's seven suggestions.
- John
John, yep, bigger versions of the pics are needed, would that watch in the current batches?
- Kol Tregaskes
bigger versions would indeed rock. It would be nice to have a user setting though to either see small thumbnail photos are larger photos. This way the people who are not as interested in the photos as some of us could still choose to see them small. In fact small should probably be the default with a user option to view them larger instead.
- Thomas Hawk
I kind of like the thumbnail batches, and being able to choose which to click through. My comment was specifically about faves – it's hard to pick favorites from just thumbnails.
- John
Another thing I'd like to see changed (or at least be toggleable) is the feature what hides entries under 'more form <service>' on lists. I have lots of photo-related groups in one friends list and having them hidden like this is annoying. Also the hiding of the Flickr photos in the batches is annoying too. Personally I'd like this expanded all the time but a toggle would be nice. I appreciate this might be set-up as it is because of performance.
- Kol Tregaskes
Thomas, agree.
- Kol Tregaskes
More user options for controlling the display of Flickr photos would be helpful.
- John
I'm kind of disappointed in Friendfeed. Too much focus on competing with Twitter, and not enough on what was originally the core idea of aggregating services. And sadly they've de-emphasized service integration so much that I wonder if they'll even keep doing it, let alone improve the integration. And Flickr, for that matter, sucks too - Thomas hit the nail on the head above, Flickr has...
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- Eric P
Eric, I think you're right about Flickr. Flickr's mostly been laying people off these days. They laid off designer George Oates, Engineer Rev Dan Catt, and lots of the other original talent there has left, Cal Henderson, Stewart Butterfield, Eric Costello, Kakul Srivastava recently left the helm of the site as well to work on other things at Yahoo. The last innovative thing that they...
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- Thomas Hawk
Food for thought: "Blown to bits: Are Knowledge Workers the New Blue Collar workers? - Fredzimny’s Blog" - http://fredzimny.wordpress.com/2009...
On live stream of #crunchup http://www.ustream.tv/channel... :"Real-time web is distraction in real-time"(sic!) Oh no, gimme some Life 3.0 in real-time.
Trent Reznor Backs Chris Anderson's Theory of 'Free' - Wired News - http://news.google.com/news...
yeah - works really well if you are selling out the enormo-dome and getting your music into a movie or a video game every 3 months
- Tim Mitchell
Take Advantage of Twitter Search Operators - http://webworkerdaily.com/2009...
VIDEO @kevinpollak how fantastic is this video of "Asians doing Christopher Walken?" http://www.mahalo.com/asians-... #genius #walken
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