I hate it. I love it! I haven't even scrolled down to the bottom yet. Hold on.......ok, it's good. :-)
- Jeff Eddings
Cheers Bret & team - it's feeling pretty good so far (which includes initial gut reaction)
- Christopher Galtenberg
Nice job. I can at the very least say it is a big improvement aesthetically. I haven't finished checking everything out yet, but so far so good.
- Rolf Schewe
I miss the ability to have a Firefox sidebar setup that just had my list of items scrolling past and nothing else along the side like this view: http://friendfeed.com/realtim...
- Justin Yost
Reshare will be back. Just an artifact of beta-testing, didn't make it in for this morning
- Bret Taylor
Definitely not looking for attention here, but I just don't like it.
- Nick
This real time integrated updates is pretty kick butt. Especially for comments.
- Gersham Meharg
Our settings vary to prevent things shuffling around excessively. We bubble up when someone you are subscribed to comments.
- Bret Taylor
I like the updating comments, but when it shifts what I'm reading out of the frame it's a little distracting. Overall, great work!
- Derek Coatney
also wish i can add links/pics/embed in the "comments"...for example, i'd like to include an image of my email from http://www.emailcover.com, but it only shows up as a link
- brainno722 (Peter)
Can you open an existing conversation in a new window?
- Barak B
1st look is good, like the real time...didn't make it to the bottom the first few minutes. Also the comment box drops down as I am commenting now...message got off screen ;)
- Sanne Buurma
please add keyboard shortcut for play/pause feed
- Ouriel Ohayon
Please, remove the gray background. Any color, but not gray.
- bnoise
Agree with Andy, dislike the fugly grey
- Sally Church
Barak: click on the timestamp to open a conversation in a new window.
- Kevin Mohr
Barack B : you can click the time and select open in new window.
- Simon Wicks
Just bring back the filters to the main feed. Other than that, it looks awesome :D
- Gerardo Curiel
Grey or not, rather think about what the beta has to offer in functionality
- Sanne Buurma
Please, bring back service icons near each post — it's very hard to scan information flow without them. Also hope you'll do something with new subscription module — it's unuseful while managing a lot of imaginary friends.
- Juras Vetrau
Wait, is the frequent shifting up and down of items I'm reading (i.e. the items in view) really supposed to work out well? I suppose you guys tried it for a while and you just got used to it?
- j1m
Peter, yep but thankfully the Cleaner FriendFeed GM script still works in Chrome and FFox, which does this for you.
- Kol Tregaskes
Don't like: broke my Blocks list, Block not available from Hover Menu
- Will Higgins™
Why Will Higgins have a superscript of "TM"? how typed in?
- Tony
it keeps the bad low-contrast grey on white text for comments that deters me from reading it. You made the main text bigger, now make the comment text black.
- Kevin Marks
Will: block will be back, just missing today, but it is not something we are removing (just something we didn't get in for this morning)
- Bret Taylor
I think you guys should really embrace the idea of hashtags. Let us add them to other people's posts, having various services auto-tag imported items, let us search on them using filters. Tagging is one great way for us to get a handle on the volume of information here.
- Kevin Kuphal
What's with the orange and the green on the side? Its a bit ugly if you ask me. Also, is there a way to change this, as well as make the beta permanent? (I like living on the cutting edge).
- darnell
I too like the orange and green. It's the blue I'm not sure about. :-)
- Daniel Dulitz
Yeah, but it clashes with the logo. Either Friendfeed needs to change their logo, or get rid of the colors. Or (even better) allow users to change the colors. :-)
- darnell
Looks horrible to me, I think we should have a customizable interface more like iGoogle, I like the idea though, just more customization, like sidebar customization, friend lists, realtime widget, chat widget, all movable and arrangeable, there sure is enough space etc...
- Kyle Weller
I'm with Kyle and Darnell - I like being able to customize my GMail colours, and having that feature on FF would be cool
- nouhad
Sorry, I don't like it. Real-time makes me nauseous still and the design is terrible.
- Lindsey is Fierce!
Yes, bring back service icons, somewhere. Also, the bigger font in entries doesn't look good.
- bnoise
Ignoring 71 previous comments... I really like the new design! One request: allow the pause button to follow my cursor as a scroll down the page!
- Chris Messina
+1 Chris Messina. That would be an awesome feature.
- Beau Liening
Add a floating "COMMENT" feature at the bottom of each thread, so I don't have to scroll up to click "comment"... this is a weird experience in new beta UI
- Susan Beebe
@Ari: This is why I really think tagging is what they need to focus on. If we could each add #ffbeta or something to our own posts as well as others, you get the trending and other features that twitter already has. Combine this with filters and you really get some killer information management features.
- Kevin Kuphal
I really like having one UI instead of different modes (normal, realtime, miniwindow), but to support the old "mini window" experience, perhaps allow the right hand side bar with filters and subscriptions to be collapsible?
- Karl Rosaen
@Karl: API is key here. Twitter isn't massively popular because their website rocks. Twitter is massively popular because there's a massive layer of applications built on top of it. Build that for FF and you have the same potential growth
- Kevin Kuphal
I wish it could use more of the screen real estate of my monitor, given my normal window size, it has large amounts of unused space on either size of the content due to the fixed layout. Maybe a multi-column mode?
- Ray Cromwell
@Krishnamoorthy rooms I believe have changed to feeds beta.friendfeed.com/[room_name]
- Lou Paglia
the new design works better for me. I am sure there will be glitches, but so far so good.
- Sharon Hurley Hall
Is there a way to change my prefs over to to the beta so I don't have to keep entering beta.friendfeed...?
- Ryan Stanley
UI suggestion: there's a link to expand all comments, there should be one to collapse them as wel.
- Ryan Stanley
UI suggestion: after expanding comments you scroll all the way to the bottom reading the thread, then you have scroll all the way back up to click the Comment link. Why not have it at the bottom of the thread too.
- Ryan Stanley
Feature suggestion: FF needs a built-in way of referring to people publicly, just like Twitter's @. Perhaps use the same convention. But there needs to be a way people to address each other in public threads, so a user can make sure to be informed when people are talking or referring to them.
- Ryan Stanley
going to read through faq - roadmap of what made beta & what's going away would be nice - big concern for me is the lose of ability to expand lists to see individual participants - i find that one of ff's strongest features - that and block but i see from earlier in this thread that its will make it in later in beta (whew)...
- mike "glemak" dunn
A Pause button that follows you on page scroll could be more distracting than it's worth. But how about something like it appears upon a white space mousedown/mouseup event.
- Micah Wittman
Hmm, I tried to read this thread, but I never got to the bottom, because the unexpected shifts of the text just became too much after a while. Fundamentally, if the page keeps shifting up and down unexpectedly, it's hard to see how anyone's ever going to read it -- hence the many requests for a floating pause button, which would help. You could also imagine pause on hover. Being able to read down the page without having the text disappear seems to me like the #1 use case of ff.
- j1m
Of course, it's not really like you want Pause -- the real-time updates are great when they're below wherever the eyes are :-)
- j1m
I love the new UI! I'm a big fan. It feels a lot cleaner and more organized. The real-timeness doesn't bother me. It seems pretty clever about when and when not to refresh. Great job, guys!!! : )
- Jess Lee
Bret - Great job! There are certainly things to clean up before this interface goes to the main page. Rooms should REALLY be on the subscribed list on the right hand column. I would LOVE to be able to put Blank Lines in comments. I don't care if they count for a whole lines worth of characters (as opposed to a more common one character for the cr/lf) Blank lines make comments more legible and clear than just a runtogether paragraph.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I don't like how the interface STILL loses my place if I subscribe to someone while posting a comment (or even reading it!) I should be able to subscribe to YOU while I read YOU and not lose my page place. The Page should need to be refreshed to reset everyone because of the new subscription.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I don't know about the queued items, I like the real time feed, having selectable speeds instead of "over-caffination required mode" would be good. Most discussions this is irrelevant, but the discussion on tis new beta this morning (i.e. on scoble's feed) showed how insane that can be.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The real-time-only feed in the beta is causing Safari 4b on my MacBook use up a lot of CPU cycles, hence depleting the battery faster. I'm sure FF3 will too. Please consider an "ECO Mode" similar to the current standard mode, which only refreshes once every few minutes, for those running their machines on battery power. Without such an eco-mode, and with the rapid-fire pace of live updates, I fear that I won't be using FFeed much at all. Certainly not leaving that tab open for hours on end like I used to.
- Siddharth Deb
I don't know if I've done something, or you guys did, but when I look here, I only have a few services setup in the account, when I go to the old interface I have a LOT more -I'm not certain that everything is feeding through? (i.e. I have Digg and Disqus set up, I see the correct list of icons on the old interface, but on the beta "settings" popup, No Dice. Even if this is irrelevant to the actual data flow, please fix this to make me sleep well at night. ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
One more thing - Could we have a character counter in the comments? It would be REALLY nice, if my account is setup to post this comment to my twitter account, and it's going to post the link to this discussion, please Add the number of characters in the link (plus a space) to the total character count. That way I won't be truncating the comment and/or the URL when it gets to twitter.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Another thing: I used to be able to click the "More" next to a single discussion, and "Link to this discussion" Where is that? If this is an outmoded way of thinking please let me know. Otherwise, um...can we have that feature back?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: the timestamp ("9 hours ago") is the permalink
- Benjamin Golub
do you need a techno dunce to help the average joe make sense of this?? haha...i love it...
- Lauren Shanahan
Very twitter like. But better due to nice conversational.
- xiawinter
I actually kinda like the grey... though it does look like it's an opportunity to let companies brand the background in some way.
- Frankie Warren
For cc to Twitter functionality, can the number of characters be a count-down instead of a count-up?
- Winston Teo
I'd like to second the notion that there should be a way to address an individual within a thread...the agreed upon "Rob:" works great, but maybe could be clickable so that there's no confusion as to which Rob or which Scoble you're talking to ;) (i.e. maybe a CTRL-Click or something on the person's name after their comment to start a new comment with their name at the beginning? )
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The grey background looks kinda dullish, and it looks like someone ran out of ideas for colours..
- Winston Teo
IMO avatars occupy way too much real estate now, I liked the smaller ones better.
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
thsi is nothing on the new design, but after being on here all night with no attention to a down twitter, I am reminded of this: It would be nice if I could set the post to twitter for comments and likes a) permanent b) off or C) on a per comment/like basis -twitter users say this "yeah, when ppl I follow flood me with FF spam ... I usually unfollow ... even block if it irritates me enough." And I would like to be able to be easily selective of what gets put through, and it would get more GOOD attn for FF
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
please, for the love of god, move the "comment" link to the BOTTOM of the list of comments. seriously, am I the only one who can't believe this hasn't been fixed for so long?
- Dossy Shiobara
Great stuff! :-) FriendFeed does it better than Facebook. Please go real-time all the way for subscription requests and confirmatoions too.
- Nenad Nikolic
from twhirl
It's not bad, but I prefer the smoothness of the old one to the lines and edges in this new one.
- scott willeke
I love the new letter-counting post widget in the beta though.
- scott willeke
at first glance, find it much more readable than the old one. Pity there still isn't "my items that were liked or commented by others"
- Stephanie Booth
from twhirl
Stephanie: comments:1 likes:1 from:sbooth
- Justin Long
stephanie & justin - that is in the catch all http://beta.friendfeed.com/filter... - i went and liked/commented on something from each of you that had no other activity - you should both see that bubble up in /discussions...
- mike "glemak" dunn
LOVE THE NEW BETA ! the new filter is so powerful, more powerful if you could add "language parameter"!!
- foxmachia {山石}
still waiting for direct-to-room links on the right column, is it planned? (with lastupdated timestamps if possible)
- Kemal Hadimli
Well the beta has sunk in and it's mostly just rearranging things that were already there before the beta. FF is still missing some things that are perplexing that would be super-easy and would make it much nicer as a reading and writing platform.
First thing -- I publish feeds with full text, so why doesn't FF pick that up and do something nice with it. Look at this view of my latest blog post. http://beta.friendfeed.com/e... Why do people have to go to my site to read the post? This is a feed reader, right?? Why not have a plus sign or a wedge and allow me to expand it to read the essay in place. As an author I have to believe a lot more people would read it. I'm getting comments from people who I know haven't read the piece. That would be less likely if they didn't have to go to another site to read it.
- Dave Winer
Second -- do a ping server. What's the big deal. I would make it so my tools can optionally ping FF. There's already a well-established standard here, all the major blogging tools could instantly be configured to support it.
- Dave Winer
Third -- give me a command in the popup menu for a feed that allows me to say "fetch it now" -- I'd do this when I know I just posted some pics to Flickr or added some items to my Netflix queue. Sure someday all this will be efficient, but for now you have humans who would be willing to do this for you, so why not take advantage of it.
- Dave Winer
Actually, the 1st one is a great way to use all that blank white space on the right, you could view it in a frame like G Reader instead of clicking through to the site. That would increase productivity for sure.
- Sally Church
Awesome. I have a lot more where that came from. Here's one. I want to be able to add my own commands to the popup menus. I have no how idea how that would work short of you implementing a scripting language, which I'm sure is doable. I want to shoot things from here to other places, that's usually waht I want to do. Twitter doesn't have the same capabilities as FF, but that's where most of the people are.
- Dave Winer
I agree with Peter Friend Feed is not a feed reader! It's a blogging platforum, it's away to get a message out, basicly away to communitcate and be heard. A feed reader is ussually one sided, and boring. Friend Feed is not boring.
- Colide81 (James)
Dave: there is the ability to 'fetch it now'. Add/edit items, select the service in question, click the 'refresh feed' link in the lower right corner of the box. It updates on command.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Peter: Wouldn't be great if FF become a great feedreader at the same time,maybe we could spend less time on Google Reader.And I bet it rocks!
- Steve Chou
I agree that #1 would be a great addition. It would let me read a lot more content here on FF and be able to give a lot better feedback.
- Gordon Bowman
Dave, we do monitor both the google and weblogs.com ping servers, so any ping sent there should be picked up by FriendFeed within a few minutes. That said, we should probably just create one of our own as well.
- Paul Buchheit
#1 Idea rocks. A long time ago, I said FF is a blogging platform and can't wait till we see it evolve even more! I would rather have my blog here than any place else, but the text boxes are too limiting. Please add a new "blog" post type so we can add a 1 page blog piece (obviously it can't be too long). Next, we'll need a user profile page for bloggers (premium user)
- Susan Beebe
FF is not a feed reader (but I agree with Dave -- it should be -- if it had an option to expand posts a la the iGoogle Google reader gadget it would be perfect). FF is also not a blogging platform (but it should be) -- let FF posts be multi paragraph, longer than currently allowed and allow inclusion inline of pictures and it would allow real blog like posts (for those of us who don't or no longer blog).
- Brian Sullivan
Sounds like Dave wants to make FF into Pownce with #1.
- Lindsay
This is the second old post I've seen revived today. Very cool feature.
- Russellreno
I disagree, the comment function allows substantial elaboration of a post & you can add numerous pictures. There's no reason why FF should be yet another blog reader when there's such thing as tabbed browsing, but should rather be an index or resource for favorite subscriptions/blogs you'd like to read in depth further & elsewhere.
- sofarsoShawn
Look, we don't need the liberal science/medicine/economic/peace complex telling us how to run our nature/body/economy/nations. We got the Bible and our Gut. Nuff said.
- Robert Cooper
from twhirl
From 2008 this isn't really "every single laureate": 0/1 Peace, 0/1 Economics, 0/1 Literature, 0/2 Medicine, 1/2 Physics, 2/2 Chemistry. Not that this isn't an impressive list of Laureates, just not all 2008 Laureates.
- Kenny Stoltz
from twhirl
@Kenny I think it is every single *american*. (And I don't think you can say 0/1 econ. We damned well know who Krugman is voting for. )
- Robert Cooper
from twhirl
I just started reading Ronald Reagan's autobiography and can't help but admire his portrayal of America during his youth days. While there were obvious inequalities and a lot of problems, the country seemed unified in its ideals of what made America great--of what made America worth fighting for. An investment in infrastructure--especially mass transit in and between major cities--could be the link towards getting us back on track.
- Blake N. Cooper
Things are shaping up that way. We're going to have to factor $8 per gallon gasoline into our thinking. We got a reprieve, gas prices have dropped rapidly. Now's the time to swallow hard and add some new taxes to pay for development of mass transit and subsidizing it where it already exists. I hope other Americans are ready for that.
- Dave Winer
VA will carry McCain. The Hampton Roads area has never represented this state. Chesapeake and Accomack have been Democratic strongholds for decades. As a resident of this state and getting a feel for the state that I have lived in my entire life, mark my words.
- Mike Lewis
"We leveraged up and if you have a 20 percent fall in value of a $20 trillion asset, that’s $4 trillion. And when $4 trillion lands — losses land in the wrong part of this economy, it can gum up the whole place.” People should have known better but in some way’s it’s unavoidable with markets: “People should always know better. … I mean people — people don’t get — they don’t get smarter about things that get as basic as greed and you can’t stand to see your neighbor getting rich. You know you’re smarter than he is, and he’s doing these things, you know, and he’s getting rich, and your spouse is getting unhappy with you because you aren’t doing — pretty soon you start doing it. And so you get what I call the natural progression, the three I’s: the innovators, the imitators, and the idiots. And that’s what happens. Everybody just kind of goes along. And you look kind of silly if you disagree."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Can someone please engrave this on a plaque somewhere? Maybe we could have it etched into some tablets from the mountaintop and have churches predicated on these words.
- Christopher Sacca
Right on! Yep, i am very "silly" ...not a jonesy type anymore.... we gave away much of our "cool stuff" and now have a mimimalist home ...MUCH BETTER and the best part, no stinking debt, except house and 1 car. The bank was all too ready to sock us deep into debt. We decided against that and are very happy with our decision to borrow only half what was offered (more realistic with cushion to $pare)
- Susan Beebe
Unsure imitators and idiots don't simply continue on their merry way under bailout.
- AJ Kohn
@AJ all the bailout does is buy time. We're merely delaying the inevitable, I think. If the imitators and the idiots keep doing what they're doing, we'll just be right back here again, except probably even worse off.
- Victor Ganata
A lot of people have criticized Paulson, here's what Buffett says: "I don’t think you can have a better secretary of the Treasury than Hank Paulson … he knows markets, he knows corporations’ work, he knows money, and he’s got the interests of the country at heart."
- Sanjeev Singh
"The Silver State is pronounced “NevAda” as in, “pad, glad, sad or dad.” “I hAd a great time in NevAda.”" Not "ah" as in "Obama."
- Jim Norris
@Jim Good to know. Especially for those that will be volunteering there. Lucky for me I'm too far away to actually do this, because I alway pronounce it with an "ah".
- Daniel Shaw
@Jim: That's a pet peeve of mine, too. I *hate* it when people from the east coast pronouce it Nev-AH-da.
- Shannon Jiménez
I remember listening to a Diggnation a while ago where they talked about this. Death Star Grill FTW!
- CannonGod
thanks @CannonGod, i was trying to remember where i saw this before... that Tauntaun suit would have been awesome as a kid's Halloween costume
- Philip J Beyer
from twhirl
I would definitely take a pair of the princess leia headphones.
- Sam
from twhirl
Although that girl's eyes are definitely a bit creepy.
- Sam
from twhirl
@Philip ~ I wonder if the Tauntaun suit has a zip-locked chest so one can climb inside to escape the freezing Hoth temperatures?
- CannonGod
I would pay big bucks for a Death Star Grill!
- Chris Luckhardt
Error #40362 - - - Politically correct Slippy is unsure of how to respond - - -
- Slappy Line
omg I'm so busy lmaoing I can't even rofl!!!. That's the best stuff I ever saw. How could that bbq have been rejected?? I want five of them: and I get maybe 15 bbq-feasible days per year. lmaofofllol-yeh-yeh-yeh-yeh-yeh!11111one!!!!
- john conroy
Michael: Claim? Dude, it was EVERYWHERE. and Jeff: Priorities? Above relatively meaningless things like the Olympics and the Oscars - and CERTAINLY football (!), then this metric of viewership is a wonderful indication.
- Steve Isaacs
This gets me to thinking...how likely is it that the "polls" that show a close race are complete bullshit promoted to keep ratings high? Why do I get the feeling that racists and crazed feminists aside that Obama is still running away with it? 36M is a big number.
- JonathanJoseph
JonathanJoseph, I hope you are not saying only racists and crazed feminists are not in favor of Obama as President. That certainly is not the case. There are a good number of people who simply disagree with his vision for America.
- ComicList
i made a things to do before I die list quite recently..now I need to find the damn thing. Sky diving is definitely up there though & I believe I wrote that I wanted to land on my land.
- Zee.
Ohhh, I am ALL about this list!!!!! :D
- Anna Haro
You can do these after kids too, most of them with them.
- RAPatton
..... 99. Get an epidural, 100. PUSH!
- David Knight
What might be a good idea is the new thing called email mine is jason@sisilili.com if you are interested in doing some of this list I were for one hope to be in position to have a go at it before the year 2050, the only thing about this list would mean that we would have to escape Friendfeed and I do love FF but its not on the list and it means going outside and doing something. Thank...
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- Jason
Actually, a significant number of these I didn't do until AFTER I had kids. And a lot of these, I would never do - before OR after kids. ;)
- Nathaniel Payne
Some of these, I had no desire to do before I had kids. Now, even less. Still a good list overall, though.
- ha3rvey, not a sweetheart
did most of em, gonna do a few more despite having a new kid now
- adolfo foronda
Am curiously attracted to such lists, maybe because they remind me to keep pushing forward with some of these/similar items with a "carpe diem" attitude, maybe because they offer affirmation when I nod my head "done" for so many of the items. Here's another fun list from 4 guys that roadtripped on a bus along the US West Coast last year and caused a bit of a media stir of support in their pursuits (and encouraged others to pursue their dreams/wishes): http://www.theburiedlife.com/list...
- Casey
I went skydiving a couple week ago. It's fun, but I wasn't overly impressed.
- xero
It's not a big adrenaline rush like you'd think. It's more like swimming than falling, plus on a tandem you're strapped to an experienced instructor. The only adrenaline rush you'd get really is fear/nervousness if you have any. I'd recommend going, some people fall in love with it. I'll get licensed one day, but I'm not in a big hurry. Paragliding might be more my speed, since the landing approach was the most fun, second was the freefall part.
- xero
xero, have u bunjee jumped? How does that compare?
- Zee.
You know, a lot of those things in your list you can just as easily do after having kids. They're not high risk, nor massively time consuming. Some you can even share the learning experience with your family.
- xero
xero, agreed no doubt...it's not my list though btw, I just shared it.
- Zee.
I haven't bungee jumped, it's on my list though. It's supposed to feel more like falling and be a bit more of a rush. You generally don't have time to hit terminal velocity and there are objects close enough for you to recognize you're actually falling.
- xero
I'd also like to see Disqus comments to be treated as comments, which by implementing Louis suggestion in point 2, will make more sense i guess. Comments are comments, posts are posts. In case there will be no link to which the comment is added, it could work like posting a link with the Disqus comment under. Btw, @Robert, you don't have Disqus hooked up in FF ;)
- Tibor Holoda
Excellent post Louis. You are pretty much spot on with those 10 suggestions.
- Mike Fruchter
Tibor: I don't like Disqus pulling in comments here. Often I want different communities to remain separate. I'll manually pull in comments or point out when I've made comments that FriendFeeder's should be aware of. Like I did here.
- Robert Scoble
11. add user definable font size. the new beta makes me squint :)
- h1ro
#9! I hide things liberally and it does bug me, when I click on page 2, I'm seeing page 1 all over again.
- Yolanda
Great suggestions Louis, I would also add: The Ability to Hide Specific RSS Feeds and Search All Entries by URL
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
and go-faster stripes, a background of babes in bikinis, and intermittant embedded hilarious fart noises.
- john conroy
I have to so that FF has been growing well with the current feature set. Like all areas of activity contraints can sometimes be helpful. FF needs to innovate itself, rather than copy straight from Twitter (DM's), Facebook (profiles) etc. 2,4,10 are most important. The issue here is not so much what features we want as how can FF grow into a mature platform.
- Roberto Bonini
Robert: I see your point, but i still think it would be a good thing to handle Disqus comments as comments, not as posts. User decides, if he wants them appear in his FF stream or not - like in your case.
- Tibor Holoda
Great List Louis! #2 is my favorite one.
- Peter Hoffmann
Tibor, I agree with you (Robert, when are you going to enable Disqus on your blog?). For the blog owner it's much easier to consolidate into one place if they can tie your comments straight to the FriendFeed post itself instead of an entirely new post.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
One more suggestion - tagging. I want to be able to tag individuals, both in my posts, *and* my comments if I'm talking about them or something they might be interested in.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Excellent list. My top priority though, isn't on there - (as per Shey) renaming or separating "Blog" posts, so individuals can hide your blog vs. another "blog" .. I'd also like it easier to determine which services I am/am not showing per individual. Just give me some enable/disable checkboxes on the users page. Strands did this right.
- Tim Hoeck
Great suggestions Louis. One clarification on #4 -- most people never see this "default" list because they were either invited by another user, or they import friends from email or facebook. The recommendations are then based entirely on who their other friends are, and will make a lot more sense.
- Paul Buchheit
Indeed some good suggestions. My guess is that the reason that #2 (duplicates) has not been implemented yet, is that it is very tricky to do right. If they do manage to implement it and get it right, I will be very impressed. I would not be too surprised though, since Friendfeed has some really sharp people working there.
- Robert Felty
Excellent List and some good suggestions in comments as well. I really would like to see 2,3,5,6, & 10. The share on FF bookmarklet should be more like Tumblr's. I would also like to be able to filter my feed to prevent duplicates. I would like to cross post my tumblr to my main blog and twitter but in doing so I create more noise for my FF stream. If I could filter out posts from blog or twitter that started with "XYZ" then I could cross post freely without worrying about FF noise.
- Keith - @tsudo
@Paul, thanks for the comment. I did test by signing up to just one individual, as if they had invited me, and by changing the one person I subscribed to, the recommended friends did change. That said, if you check out recommended friends in Facebook, there's the option to "X" out people you don't want and provide more. Plaxo also does this well.
- Louis Gray
Re: #1 and #8 I would like to see profile information that I can search, so I can find FF folks who are geographically near me or who are in my profession or who share a common interest with me. Great post - thanks!
- Courtney McGough
Pownce should worry about #10. FF will soon have to worry about cannibalizing its data suppliers, and what that means for ongoing openness. #! & #2 are the big ones with me, and I just don't see why FF enabled fake followers.
- LogEx
being 1st or 2nd is all that matters in that particular field.... 3rd placings and below would normally whither away
- Mark L
from twhirl
I am really getting confused. I just commented on the post. Now I see the comments here as posts. Totally agree with Tibor, messing posts together with comments, be it from Disqus or anywhere else, does not increase transparency.
- Jan Horna
#7 - want to make sure i understand that concept of "fake follow" - home feed contains all friends by default & you can then add them to a list/grouping to subdivide them for easier readability - to remove them from the home feed you have to actually de-select them when you add them to a list and then never go to that list again - is that what "fake follow" is - if so, way to much work for no return and only lame*ss self absorbed status mongers will be doing it - imho of course :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
#5 - My thought would be to make an invitation-only private room. Wouldn't this solve the partial-distribution problem?
- Mitchell Tsai
Mitchell, it could, and some do, but that's a room, and not a feed. Unless the room data permeates the feed, it could get missed.
- Louis Gray
I like your list. One other feature I'd like to see is to filter by service in whatever view I am in.
- Jeff P. Henderson
The absolute killer feature for me would be, if FF will recognize languages of the posts, or at least to differentiate between english vs. non-english and allow filtering. Would that even be possible or did my brain just farted? :)
- Tibor Holoda
(sorry for cross posting) Firstly, I'd like to add to Louis' list the capability to search rooms and then to search inside rooms. Secondly, I must confess that support for a basic profile would be useful. But as always I'd encourage the reuse of data (so importing it from whatever source the user decides). DMs might be usefull, but I haven't felt the need for them so far.
- Alex Popescu
I usually don't like to speak about things that are not ready, but this post was catchy. I currently have a prototype that deals with de-duping the resource links. I haven't looked into de-duping pure messages, but my gut feeling is that this might be even easier. I hope to find the time to deploy this app sometime soon.
- Alex Popescu
About private messaging: at first I thought this was a silly idea for ff, until I realized that the private messages could just show up where ff items normally show up, e.g. private comments.
- j1m
I'd be all over that , like a fat kid on a twinkie
- johnpiercy
I'd be all over that like a fat dude on Paris Hilton
- Josh Haley
Now that is funny! McCain should take comedic lessons from Paris. Hmmmm, that energy plan actually sounds respectable (on the surface that is).
- Darrell Bell
from twhirl
If you asked her what the Oval Office was, do you think she would know?
- Chris Rivait
"See you at the debates, bitches" heh
- Kamath (नमः)
We all know that was very scripted as she would of never came up with something like that on her own.
- Aaron Myers
"In the U.S. 7% of the male population – or about 10.5 million men – and 0.4% of the female population either cannot distinguish red from green, or see red and green differently."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
don't they say dogs are colorblind, too?
- Michelle Trent
Interrresting veddy interesting...U.S pop 07 est. would work out about right to 10.5m for male (148m), and just..612174 for females based on 153m...why? Could it be a maternal genetic code thing../? 'Friendfeed for thought' anyway..
- Jason
Color-blindness is recessive and on the X chromosome, so women are far less likely to get it.
- Alex Power
@Paul, the quote is completely misleading. 7% of males are anomolous trichomats, but their vision is much more like mine (or, I assume, yours) than like a color blind person's (dichromat's) vision. In particular, they can distinguish just as many colors as you or I, they just chop a different 3 dimensions out of the hyperspectral space of true colors (that is, they have different metamers). Dichromats are 2% of the male population.
- j1m
+1 for the tetrachromats. I'm an anomalous trichromat (otherwise known as partially-color-blind).
- Mitchell Tsai
Kind of drab. Glad I'm not color blind, but I know several guys that are.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Paul: These pages were really cool!! Many Thanks. Got to show my sister what my world looks like. I'm the most common type of color-blind person, "green-weak". (Ryo: +1 for the tetrachromats because I'd never heard of them before).
- Mitchell Tsai
As one of the color blind people, and it's always annoying when I see UIs designed for normal colors. Part of it is that the majority of UI designers seem to be women.
- Piaw Na
Question for the color blind: do these images (such as the google logo) look exactly like the regular version to you?
- Paul Buchheit
@Paul: Yes. I can't tell the difference between that logo and the regular one on Google's home page. I had a world of hurt in Chemistry lab (litmus tests, for instance --- no difference between blue and purple), and in electronics lab (whoever designed color coded stripes to indicate resistance of a resistor needs to be shot).
- Piaw Na
@piaw: do you mean they could have chosen better colors, or that color system doesn't quite work for resistors no matter what?
- Freylekhe dreydl
they look the same to me too and also had the same terrors in chemistry & physics classes at school. Playing cricket with a red ball on green grass was also challenging.
- Sally Church
from fftogo
It's funny, I came across this exact article yesterday, but didn't think to share it. I was looking for good printable color schemes that everyone can see (no yellow, doesn't rely on a red/green differentiation. Any suggestions?
- Clare Dibble
@Alex: they could have picked better colors, instead of for instance, brown and red, or brown and green, which all look the same to me. My uncle, ironically enough, majored in Chemistry despite his color-blindness. He then tried to start a paint company. As you can imagine, the results were not so good. I took the cue and majored in computer science, and tried to stay as far from UI as I could.
- Piaw Na
"It started when we wanted a better way to share feature ideas and product plans with each other here at FriendFeed, but not the rest of the world -- a mini FriendFeed of our own. We could have set this up on its own machine in the office, but we knew that we weren't alone in our desire and that the right way to go was to extend FriendFeed's capabilities for everyone. And so FriendFeed rooms were born."
- Paul Buchheit
This is just.... I'm at a loss for words. I can't wait to see how people use this.
- Mark Trapp
Agreed - there's a lot of potential here. I can see this becoming useful for business as well. Which is how the FriendFeed guys were using it.
- Hutch Carpenter
very cool! awesome work paul and team. can't wait to start building my friendfeed house of rooms!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
this is so slick! Congrats. Really cool!
- Thomas Hawk
Oh thank goodness... Twitter moaning? Get a room!
- Vince DeGeorge
can't wait to geek out on the UI, but extra happy that a mainstream feature is making friendfeed less geeky for the masses. bravo.
- karl dotter
Blew my mind a little bit. It is such a fantastic 'App' for friendfeed data and the friendfeed collection methods. Really excited about this. Maybe one of the first real community groups I use.
- Caleb Elston
Question: How can i integrate a rss to my room? I plan to use it for my blip.fm feed.
- Selim Yoruk
API request: authenticated Profile fetches should list the rooms the user manages or is a member of
- Aviv
Sounds pretty good. Though as a corollary, would it be possible to simply divide feeds without having to invite people into something? Is there a way to do that already and I just don't know? Make literally a "friend feed" plus a "stranger feed"... because, regardless of titular function of this site, I've ended up following a number of people I don't know. (Which has turned out to be one of the great bonus parts of this awesome service!)
- Ňicķ
Damn.....This made me remember the discussion about the new web been all about more "private" interactions between groups of friends.
- Gadiel Rivera
After playing with it for a few minutes, I really hope Friendfeed doesn't shift from being about who you follow to what rooms you belong to. I'd hate to miss out on an interesting discussion in Social_Media4122 when I joined SocialMedia1231. I think that's one of the worst features of Facebook. Here's hoping that Friendfeed doesn't go that way!
- Mark Trapp
Mark, I doubt that. Many times I've found myself wanting to share things that would only be interesting to, say, my wife. I don't want to clutter up everyone's FF with that. I see rooms as ways of helping shape the noise.
- Akiva Moskovitz
@Mark Trapp - that thought occurred to me as well. Maybe I can make sure public rooms feed into my Friends tab?
- Hutch Carpenter
Mark, interesting concern... in a way this means FF is no longer "flat" - and elite groups are inevitable, and it'll be interesting to see how it plays out and if users begin to feel "left out".
- Aviv
This is exactly what this service needed. Awesome. Curious though... Cannot create a room with my user name?
- Andrew Smith
Hutch, yeah maybe: or if you're part of a public room, and you comment or like something, that item now appears in your feed just like Mark Trapp (friend of Yogi Bear) posted a Link (Yogi Bear liked this) does. As this gains more traction, I think I'm going to be more and more looking for the "Join every public room available, but only show me posts that my friends posted" option, which is just Friendfeed without rooms. I'm sure there's some sort of happy medium.
- Mark Trapp
Was there a specific reason for not listing public rooms on the main page?
- Mark Krynsky
@Mark Trapp - the rooms do show up in your regular feed. Just saw this with the Post Twit-Out Room.
- Hutch Carpenter
Cool Hutch, looks like they already did what I mentioned :) The only other thing I think what would make rooms even more killer is some sort of content discovery, which i mentioned in my other comment about handling it like friends of friends. I'm definitely sipping the kool-aid on this now.
- Mark Trapp
Another question - where's the list of public rooms? I'll hunt around, but someone may already know.
- Hutch Carpenter
I'm worried about the namespace problem and how fractured conversations on particular topics might get.
- Sam Pullara
Sam, I think it's one of those things you have to try and see how it plays out. More thoughts: will we be seeing too many overlapping rooms? What happens when our friends ask us to join "Funny Stuff", then "Funny stuff on YouTube", then "Funny emails", then "Funny videos". Would I want to post a link to all those rooms? Will duplicates be a bigger issue now that the same item can be found in many rooms? I think the key will be for each of us to be somewhat picky as to which rooms we join.
- Aviv
@Friendfeed Team: Please add a 'hide'ing option for -only- room posts for users.
- Erhan Erdogan
Friendfeed rooms will be killer. Friendfeed has already shown much better interaction than facebook. This could be *the* final groups platform.
- Meryn Stol
do rooms persist forever? Can they be destroyed?
- Phil G
ff rooms: "mahalo guide pages for the l337" ?
- Deva Hazarika
Please add ability to auto-invite all friends to a new room you create or allow friends list with checkboxes. Current invite method is cumbersome.
- Mark Krynsky
Now what we need is "automatic resharing". I'd like to send anything that says "Fast Company" to my FastCompany.tv room, for instance. Right now I have to manually "reshare" each item.
- Robert Scoble
Oooh Automatic resharing feature: multiple post to multiple groups...oh my God it is going to get exponentially noisy in here! *dizzzzzy*
- Susan Beebe
@Aviv: then you get friendfeed houses..
- Amund Tveit
That was fast, I am going to try it out now!
- Joe Dawson
Congrats on pulling in Google Reader Shared Items Notes (GRSIN?) into FriendFeed. That was fast!
- Mike Reynolds
This was amazing. I woke up to find that feature had been launched on Google Reader, and it was already supported in FriendFeed! Hats off to you!
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
They really make this new app. of GReader for FF. Awesome!
- Erhan Erdogan
Just added a note on a shared item on Google Reader and once submitted it can be edited here as well! Well done!!
- Joe Dawson