In general I follow back people that follow me. In general I think it is polite to follow back, and I expect that to a certain degree from the people I follow, on FriendFeed or on Twitter.
- Baard @ Pixum
i dont have much time to follow back, i'am really sorry, its summer in Italy
- alex
I would not expect any of these 'high rollers' like Scoble to follow me back. Who can micromanage tens of 1000s of users or 100.000?? (except Scoble;) And what for? Private Messages with strangers?? I am fine if I get the chance to follow the leading discussions on the web. I can put my 2cent-comments everywhere if I really feel I must (while I should not). - I follow back almost...
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- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
Robert - thank you for including me on the list! *blush* I am going to look at this list and follow bunches of cool peeps! Yay no spam, bots, trolls, assholes or crap! :D
- Susan Beebe
Scobes man I thought we was cool beans. I mean like I'm a geek, not a bot don't spam, We can't haz bromance?
- Tim Moore
Oh yeah? I went page by page... and you're following Shaquille O'Neal, Ashton Kutcher, Stephen Colbert, and others. Geeks? Great? :) (Edit: MC Hammer... as well)
- Louis Gray
MC runs a tech company. I have met Ashton at a Techcrunch party. Shaq is a geek. Colbert I just like. So sue me. Out of 1,700 that is all you can find?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Depends. I think the signal ratio is pretty good. There were lots of feeds from USAToday/Tech, etc. and some other ones that just look fun - so I'll give you an A-. Demi Moore... there were more, but my silly point was made.
- Louis Gray
It's your personal list. I followed a ton of folks from it that I wasn't following before - so many that I can't follow any more on Twitter. (for now) I just think we have a little different definition of geek that doesn't have 100% overlap.
- Louis Gray
He hand-picked me to be unfollowed! Whee! (Which is fine since all I do is pipe FriendFeed to Twitter.)
- Akiva Moskovitz
Now I'm back amongst the elite! Robert, your taste is impeccable.
- Akiva Moskovitz
from BuddyFeed
Jacque and Ashiker, my comment is totally tongue in cheek from a prior follow / unfollow discussion. I follow Robert because I like to hear what he has to say not because he does or doesn't follow back.
- Martha
Martha, exactly. But I also would like him to "hear" what I am saying as well. Robert ;)
- Jacque
I look at it like this: most of the people I follow I would prefer to have follow me as well, because I am looking for mutual sharing and conversation. If I am trying to engage and I am not getting anything back from a person in this group, then I might unfollow. But there is another group that I follow because it is more important for me to hear what they have to say than engage in...
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- Martha
We're installing it at Leoville.com today. I love Disqus but Echo seems even more powerful.
- Leo Laporte
Leo, thank you for always trying new things :)
- Andre P. Siregar
I use backtype for this, but I'll check out echo too.
- Ghworg
Actually, no I won't - "It's important to point out, though, that the most interesting features, including real-time updates and comment aggregation from third-party sites like Twitter and FriendFeed are not available in the free version of Echo." (from readwriteweb).
- Ghworg
I don't know... I am having Friendfeed problems too
- Kimberle Kelly
I hate to say it but it doesn't seem likely that Twitter is the only target being DDoS'd. Facebook and LinkedIn have both been having problems with certain services since around the same time.
- Michael Owens
from iPhone
Yep. Seems Twitter's recovering: I've been able to log into it twice in the last minute. Haven't been able to post yet, though.
- Jordi Soler
Kimberle: FriendFeed is working here fine.
- Robert Scoble
facebook is slow too - hows friendfeed then?
- michelle harris
guys, I am hearing from sources on IRC on DALnet that Friendfeed is also being attacked
- Mark
FriendFeed stopped loading quite a few times this morning. And a few of my comments failed to post too. ... like I just had to try twice to post this.
- Daniel Sims
i've been getting lotsa latency on FF all a.m.
- Thom Kennon
What does this mean? Are all sites susceptible to attack like this? (i'm not a geek enough to know)
- Helene
This was a test to see if we would run to FF - and we did :-)
- courtney benson
It looks like most of the prime players in social media aside from FriendFeed have been having problems all morning. Damn antisocial script kiddies!
- Michael Owens
from iPhone
wonder if this is the mullahs in Iran, hunting for green faces everywhere...
- Thom Kennon
facebook can't open... also i've problems with ff... i couldn't post my comments
- Zeynep Okyay
Note: I am getting 57% packet loss on Friendfeed right now
- Mark
Severe packet loss still coming from twitter.com, many API calls are being rejected.
- Mark
FF has been acting weird today too. Some comments don't post the first time, and I got a couple error messages.
- Tomy Thomson
As long as i can see these comments and see there is a problem with Twitter and other social media, I am fine. Hope everything gets back to normal soon.
- ashish
I've put in an API call to get Scoble's list of followers about ten times now and every one has failed
- Mark
loved the comment someone made about CNN it will take them two days to report the Twitter outage
- courtney benson
CNN are reporting on (almost gushing about) the DoS. think maybe they're still pissed about #cnnfail ?
- Jay Shapiro
from BuddyFeed
Well what do you know CNN made it in two hours. Guess one of their 7 reporters got the news from the Internet. :-)
- courtney benson
nothing on 4chan about the attacks in the random page from what I can see
- Mark
here's something weird - i tried posting to FB update with link to a thread here and it fails, 3 x now - "network" error.
- Thom Kennon
Ok Mark. Your API call is the DoS attack then... ;)
- Tomi Itkonen
somebody call the sports writers over at ESPN to let them know too... they had their "social networks" turned off yesterday. now we know they feel.
- Thom Kennon
hehe. It was about a year ago that twitter was really bad, do you remember?
- Mark
Yeah. Twitter has actually been pretty stable recently.
- Tomi Itkonen
Reposts from Twitter are staring to appear here on FF. Maybe the worst is over?
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
Google search for "denial of service" has results about this current Twitter issue. GoogleBots are pretty snappy nowadays.
- Tomi Itkonen
I hope people are checking DNS servers. Often when multiple major independent services are DoS down it's via a DNS attack
- Keith Barrett
from Android
Mark Twitter was almost constantly down in 2007 and 2008 and always showed off a famous graphic of a whale. Now known as "fail whale."
- Robert Scoble
Members of 4chan's /b/ are indeed claiming that they exploited Twitter to cause the outage: http://ff.im/6fMrU -- whether they really did it or not is an entirely different story. /b/tards occasionally take credit for things that they do not do related to hacking / DDoS / etc
- Michael Owens
I first found i couldn't tweet around 3 hours ago. Wondered what was up--now I know~!
- Patricia Skinner
I get terrified of going to /b. never know if you are going to see naked images of 16 year old polish boys or photoshopped images of Sarah Palin having a shit.
- Mark
Nah, probably some1 did it 4 the heck of it or 4 a challenge! sigh :(
- polou/indigo_bow
@Apostol cannot be just by @RobertScoble by himself unfollowed 106,000 people on Twitter there r more reasons 2 DDoS. There r hobbyists that wants 2 challenge themselves or professionals doing those kinds of attacks 4 the reasons we might not even known until much later.
- polou/indigo_bow
FB wasn't working consistently and Flickr was having hiccups!
- Emi Endo
Twitter back up on my grid, funny but zero trending topics in the right rail. Am using #dos as hashtag but not much found there, yet.
- Thom Kennon
Twitter was back about 2 hours ago but again it isn't working.
- Zeynep Okyay
We're wondering how long it will take for someone to try to blame 4chan for this.
- 3Cinteractive, L.L.C.
from twhirl
We can survive future DDOS attacks by adopting an alternate, robust networking solution for tweets: http://crankypm.com/2009...
- DGentry
I don't think its about just Twitter its about the Web's vulnerability and Google finally jump on the bandwagon to assist 2 investigate this DDoS attack. I start 2 notice that some websites all over r slowing down or degrading in some form today.
- polou/indigo_bow
I had a feeling it would happen sometime. DoS attacks are not all that uncommon.
- Nile Flores
What I don't get is that some people are getting tweets out... and I can't get anything...
- Robert Freeze
Robert apparently the site is "up" but the api is still shaky. Some apps are getting through while other's are still down. It probably has to do with network topography and where different apps backend servers are located.
- Ron Hudson
I was able to post through friendfeed, and through twitter.com, but SocialScope is timing out :(
- Ron Hudson
my friendfeed entries are having trouble posting on Twitter - is the problem twitter ?
- Mekkar
I used Google and it was down for a couple of minutes I was going to tweet about it and that was down too I wonder if someone was doing a demo of a zombie network..maybe it was a sales pitch?
- BairdWilliamson
open microblogging standards have a chance to distribute the functions over multiple heterogeneous networks
- Mike Chelen
This morning, I noticed that FriendFeed 'lost' pictures I've posted from a Facebook page (but not the whole entry)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Disqus lost 1 of my comments about this DOS attack, on my own Tumblr. But I saw it.. twitted!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Jesse, I check on the Drudge Report every once in a while. He doesn't have a real RSS feed, and finds interesting stuff (or has an amusing slant). And you thought I couldn't take in even more news...
- Louis Gray
@trish thanks for getting that song stuck in my head. the day is now ruined ;)
- Jenna Bilotta
It was featured as "Breaking News" On Sky News In The UK
- Nicholas James
Jesse - another Drudge reader here. Saw that too. Didn't know Drudge even knew about Twitter.
- Hutch Carpenter
Drudge Report? Is that thing still around?
- Dave Hodson
Kashif: Boulder has a higher percentage of educated people than any other city in USA, from what I was told last night.
- Robert Scoble
Kashif: Boulder is also very beautiful and geeks who come here for College don't want to leave. I totally grok that after walking around last night. Finally, there's a good community here that supports startups.
- Robert Scoble
ReTel is interesting. Takes security video from retail stores, slices that up, sends it to workers around the world, who then analyze that video for him. Helps catch employees stealing from businesses, etc.
- Robert Scoble
aah thanks Robert, Ive heard about the natural beauty of Boulder, but now that it has geek points I need to visit that place
- Kashif Khan
Boulder's been a tech hotbed for a while - I had dealings with Republic Telecom (they made a Voice-over-Frame Relay system) there in the 1990s. Make sure to get to the Gold Hill Inn (up a dirt road into the Front Range) while you're there.
- John Craft
Everlater is a cool way to record your travels around the world. I'll have to try it out. http://www.everlater.com/ It builds a nice story site from all the things you've put into social networks and Flickr.
- Robert Scoble
Salt Lake City is just as beautiful and has just as many, if not more startups. Boulder just gets the cred because they have one central source for all those startups.
- Jesse Stay
Now TimZon is on stage. http://www.timzon.com/ this lets you share visual feedback. Combines audio, video, whiteboard, and screen capture.
- Robert Scoble
Interesting about TimZon...I might be able to use it in my web design business. E-mail feedback is remarkably inefficient.
- Sam Guzman
Robert - any more thoughts about timzon?
- Tobin Truog
Tobin, nah, I have to use it to see what I think of it.
- Robert Scoble
Now on stage is "Next Big Sound" http://thenextbigsound.com/ measures the growth and popularity for bands across major web properties and sells actionable insights around that data to band managers.
- Robert Scoble
Wow, Next Big Sound is example of a trend: getting data out of social networks and presenting this in new ways so that people can make better business decisions.
- Robert Scoble
Is there something specific about "Next Big Sound" to apply it just to bands? Can it also track brands?
- Kevin Krewell
Kevin: I'll ask. The whole shtick and UI, though, is really focused around music analysis.
- Robert Scoble
I think it's funny that some folks aren't getting the joke. :-) Subtlety doesn't always translate in 140 characters. Working on a blog post about following, and specifically the strange idea that you should ONLY follow those who follow you back. Part of the power of Twitter is that you don't have to "be friends." I can listen to folks I find interesting, whether or not they listen to me.
- Darius Dunlap
And now that Twitter's down, everyone can write their own blog post on why they're unfollowing their tens of thousands of followers ;-)
- Helene
Agreed Darius. Scoble and the other big movers may not follow me, but I can listen to them and glean information that I find informative, even if they don't "follow" me. For people like me that can't be on FF or Twitter a lot during the day at work, I can still keep informed.
- Jack Wilson, K4SAC
Darius: Very good point (humor understood). I am rethinking my stance on how to use/utilize twitter.
- Timothy Federwitz
I don't understand why some people feel obligated to follow back. I want my incoming stream to have a very high signal:noise ratio. You've got to earn followage from me.
- Pistos
Rosemary + Helene + Pistos, I sooooo want to 'like' comments sometimes ...
- Sebastian
@sebastianx: Me too. :) We'll have to settle for something like: @Pistos +1
- Pistos
Sebastian - and TAGS for comments. ;-)
- Darius Dunlap
@Pistos @Darius I second that. In many cases comments provide way more value than the initial item. Just looking at who commented to an item offering those to possibly interested users based on whatever criteria is a good first step but not enough.
- Sebastian
I really like FriendFeeed, I hope it catches on
- Kami Huyse
at least there's some way to "get my social on" at the moment (aside from the obvious of getting off the computer in the first place..lol).
- josh hinds
"5. Understand and learn media techniques. In a media-saturated society, we need to know how digital media work. The techniques of media creation are becoming second nature, at least to younger people. But it's equally essential to understand the ways people use media to persuade and manipulate — how media creators push our logical and emotional buttons."
- George Dearing
from Bookmarklet
Software is not an end in itself: it is a means to accomplish a task. People use software to pursue their goals, goals that exist in the real world, not cyberspace. It is for this reason that software should function as an extension of the human, not a hindrance to. - http://bluebirdapp.com/
his site is pretty cool though i wish photographers wouldn't watermark their pictures. i know why they do it, but it takes away from the really great photos
- Cee Bee
I rode a 20 footer like that in Hawaii on a boogie board... Dropped me straight onto the sand, and then proceeded to drench me with 3 million gallons of water... In retrospect, I'm probably lucky to be alive right now.
- LarchOye
that might be "thrilling" the first time around, but after continually getting pounded like that i'm sure it can become a bit of a "challenge" to deal with
- Cee Bee
There are multiple ways to Rome... so also multiple ways to suc6. It will not change anything!
- Aad 't Hart
The "product so good we don’t need sales or marketing" philosophy was also referenced in the Sarah Lacy book "Once Your Lucky, Twice You're Good". Which by the way is a good read.
- Tom Wentworth
I've been thinking the same thing as I've been checking out fellow FF users who have been subscribing to my FriendFeed. This will help me to decide whether or not to subscribe to them as well. I hope that Ben Golub is listening :-)
- Thomas Ho
from fftogo
There's a part of me that likes the leveling aspect of ff - without profiles, you either know the person by her name or reputation established elsewhere, or her content speaks for itself. But I'd also like to do some networking here and profiles make it easier to search and find people who are doing the same thing.
- Todd Mundt
Yeah, shouldn't be too hard to add that. I'd love to also see a blurb about FF'ers in the little popup box when you hover over the username.
- Paul Short
It would certainly save going to Twitter to read their bio and check out their website.
- Sally Church
from Alert Thingy
The assumption is that the bio is useful. Ultimately I've relied more on what a person posts than what their bio says.
- Todd Jordan
Don't add mini-profiles! I like how FriendFeed sticks to basics (it's "core competencies"). I enjoy looking at people's LinkedIn/Twitter/Facebook pages for the other info. However, a pop-up with some mini-profile stuff might be helpful (ala Sally Church). Just don't clutter people's main pages with more stuff like most other social networks.
- Mitchell Tsai
very true. at least a fields for real name and an url
- kosmar
yes, i agree on that. Maybe even a more detailed profile page?...via feedalizr
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
Why ? I never looked at them in Twitter except to find a pointer to a blog or website to determine the legitimacy of individuals. FF has pointers to find blogs/twitter feeds and more. You are what you post!
- Brian Sullivan
totally agree. impossible to know who is the personn subscribing to your feed by just scrawling his feeds
- Ouriel Ohayon
yes, that is what we need, another profile to up date (can't wait for data portability). I always simply go check the profiles of users at Twitter, LinkedIn or their blog before subscribing.
- Lou Paglia
Well, a suggestion - couldn't FF just import the short Twitter bio? It does take time checking people out first. I was/am wary of randomly connecting, check out the Twitter blacklist too and avoided a couple of people that way. What happened to Ariel could happen to any other female on here, so caveat emptor.
- Sally Church
they also need a real alert system to enable the monitoring of interaction on your feed. right now i have no IDEA when someone likes something or leaves a comment. I need to check my own feed manually every now and then
- Ouriel Ohayon
Definitely import the Twitter profile. I would appreciate the snapshot of who the person is without having to go dig in the feeds.
- Judi Sohn
@ouriel: I second that point. I'd like to be notified when someone comments on my posted items. Not even sure that's RSS-able in here, is it?
- Bryan Person
I think I don't need it now. Because I know all of my friends, if I need more info, I can check their other profiles.
- Eren Emre Kanal
What I would like in FF is the ability to block at the individual blog level. It would be handy for people with more than one blog (especially when some are in languages other than English or blogs are personal/business) and you are interested in following only some.
- Brian Sullivan
The best PR: create an uber useful product that targets people who (a) have large audiences and (b) can't keep quiet about using it. Eg, FF targeting Robert Scoble. :-)
- Ranjit Mathoda
I'll just point people to my comment on your blog and Loic's post so I don't repeat myself, again.
- Andrew Feinberg
Terrific post Robert. I see some Tipping Point thinking there (re: influentials).
- Hutch Carpenter
Ranjit... FriendFeed didn't target Robert Scoble. But the idea is good.
- Louis Gray