This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws.
- Soup in a TARDIS
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out...
- Greg Lato
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers.
- Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" ..
- pb:
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :]
- pb:
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test)
- Iphigenie
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes).
- Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little
- SteVe C
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
They fax much better if you flatten them first. What?
- The original Kevin
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all!
- Kol Tregaskes
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician)
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-)
- John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John.
- Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی
- Maryaminaa
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or...
- The Real sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Mel, I love how they would pose for you. I know how you shoot and you like to get natural shots, but everytime you picked up your camera, they got all single file line status for you. :)
- Derrick
"Yeah, so we're in the studio now, laying down some tracks. They wanna get Diddy in on it, but I'm hoping we can work with Reznor, cause he seems like a cool guy..."
- Derrick
Diddy, Reznor, Derrick & Mariachi... I'll take it on vinyl!
- Jason Wehmhoener
That is so totally full of win that it makes me "SQUEEEE"!
- Lindsay
Ay Papi...this pic is awesome. I'm going to go make myself a margarita in honor of it.
- Mark Krynsky
ایقدر بدم میاد به این میگن سالاد شیرازی. چه ربطی داره به شیراز؟
- رامین
D/\\/IIID, thank you for the salad recipe. It's what caught my eye because it looks very much like the pico de gallo I make, The recipe confirms that aside from the mint it's almost identical. For some reason it makes me smile to know that tasty food is often replicated around the world in slightly different incarnations.
- FFing Enigma
@Tina: I agree, Germans have a similar salad but they also add pieces of feta cheese to it.
- ◄ 道 ► D/\\/|I|D ッ
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- ◄ 道 ► D/\\/|I|D ッ
from Bookmarklet
From the Zeray Gazette: "James R. Rummel points out that in the Star Trek universe, there is no money: That always struck me as being exceedingly odd, particularly when I noticed that people were serving drinks in the space station saloons, and generally doing scut work. What motivated these people to get out of bed and work as servants every day, anyway? Where did the ambition to excel and become a starship captain come from? Why would anyone put on a red shirt and accompany the bridge crew as part of an away team?"
- Mark Trapp
from Bookmarklet
I always figured that banking systems had reached the point that everyone was embedded with a chip or something so that whenever they bought something, the vendor automatically recognized them and their financial arrangements and charged them without any sort of physical monetary transaction needing to take place.
- Jandy
Jandy, to get all Trekkie nerd on you, it's established explicitly that there is no money in Star Trek: that, after World War III and the Eugenics Wars, it was done away with due to a new social understanding of the greater good. I forget if it's canon or not that it was around the same time the replicator was invented (thus eliminating scarcity).
- Mark Trapp
Thanks for the clarification! I've only seen some of TOS and DS9, so I guess I didn't know that. Interesting.
- Jandy
From the post: "If members of a society can have any common object in unlimited quantities due to replicator technology, or experience anything ordinary in a holodeck, they will begin to crave the uncommon and extraordinary -- and will be willing to work to earn the money (or credits) necessary to purchase them."
- John E. Bredehoft
Before the world had a money economy it had barter. Before inter-tribal barter there was intra-tribal reciprocity (people divided up jobs and helped each other).
- Bill Romanos
After watching Star Trek for so many years, I think there's something to what you quoted, John, as well as a more socialistic economy: everyone does what they need to do because if nobody did, we'd all be screwed. So, in a way, it's an indirect barter system: I tend bar for you and you make my clothes. That, along with centralized planning, probably goes a long way towards handling any...
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- Mark Trapp
Heck, Star Trek is probably the most down-to-earth thought experiment into the end game of dialectical materialism. Proletariat Vulcans of the galaxy, unite!
- Mark Trapp
"an understanding of the social contract that's more or less repulsive now " Can someone explain me what's so repulsive about this? I'm trying to live this way (that is, helping others to the best of my ability), and not think about money. In fact, I don't earn any money now.
- Meryn Stol
*sniff* I miss the old days when the future was supposed to be so equal! Are you now, or have you ever been, a proletariat vulcan of the galaxy....?
- WoH: Minding her Steves
Is it conceivable that there is a detail of the Star Trek universe that was not fully thought through by its all-knowing Creator?
- Tim Ostler
meryn: I don't think mark was saying he finds it repulsive, just that society quite often forsakes it for selfish intentions, hence society finds it repulsive. You often find it's argued against whenever the subject of those who posess riches either not getting as much or getting more of it taken away from them to fund safety nets and things like common healthcare.
- alphaxion
Zapp Brannigan: "What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?" I think that says it all.
- WoH: Minding her Steves
Alphaxion: I see that I wasn't entirely clear in my question. I wondered why it's found repulsive by some. I've proposed a "moneyless" economy as a starting point for thinking about a solution to our current economic crisis , but this immediately received much resistance. I'm not "repulsed" by a money economy, but I'm not repulsed by the idea of a moneyless economy either. The question is what would work better. There are big downsides to using money.
- Meryn Stol
To my point, I give you this essay: http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire... Those damn commies! "The primary goal of this document is to show that the writers and producers of Star Trek are promoting the values and ideals of communism. I should note that this has not always been the case; the TOS Federation was clearly a free market, and I can only imagine that some...
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- Mark Trapp
I've often wondered what would happen to our economy now if nearly free energy suddenly became available. The economy mostly boils down to labor+energy and if energy were free, what would happen?
- mikepk
It's interesting, Mike, that in the Star Trek universe, energy is the one thing that *isn't* in seemingly unlimited supply: many an episode used "we need more dilithium crystals to power the warp core" as a plot device, maximum warp is never sustained due to the amount of energy it consumers, and as pointed out earlier, one of the limiting factors of the replicator technology is energy consumption.
- Mark Trapp
Besides all the other reasons you guys pointed out, I always thought this was because they had found (or given by the Vulcans) ways to generate almost unlimited amounts of energy, which would make money unnecessary. It all comes down to energy, doesn't it?
- Alejandro
that's on a ship, Mark. I don't think it's the same on earth.
- Alejandro
I don't think the issue is the finite amount of energy we have on earth. Price of energy reflects the price of "producing" this energy, which is a combination of the labor costs and the capital costs. The capital costs (like oil rigs to get the oil out of the ground, refineries, offices for the oil companies, etc) also reflect labor costs. We never actually pay nature a dime. So what we're paying for is the "service" for getting the oil out of the ground.
- Meryn Stol
The main issue that for most people nowadays (at least I'm afraid this is the case) the "good life" consists of a continued vacation instead of contributing at least a few hours a day to the common good. We need to pay people because work is presumably something you'd rather not do.
- Meryn Stol
The starship is run in a militaristic fashion. I assume that if ensign red-shirt doesn't do as he is told by Picard, he gets thrown into the brig for insubordination. However, if that's what motivates people to do their jobs, it's a harsher world than I thought.
- Morton Fox
I'm crossing into dangerous territory about my Trekkiocity, but one other thing to throw into the mix is: replicators use goo packs, essentially a mixture of nanobots and organic materials, to create whatever you need. These goo packs are finite in nature (although the materials they create are recycled) and in some cases are rationed. So in a sense, they're like canteen privileges.
- Mark Trapp
Morton, I think that works for Starfleet, but it doesn't explain everything else. Unless you also posit that everyone has a specific function, and it'd be illegal not to perform that function; however, the United Federation of Planets is portrayed as a free society.
- Mark Trapp
Certainthe Ferengi are commerce minded. Hpowever, the Klingons and the Romulans ( to name a few) seem to be command oriented sovient style societies.
- Roberto Bonini
Most of the characters we saw on TNG had interesting, intrinsically rewarding work. @Meryn, I'd say that many, if not most, people like to have some form of activity in the long run, even if only to organize their lives. For example, in the real world, the majority of retired people I know fill their lives with volunteer work and/or the pursuit of hobbies. The tricky part is finding enough people to do the tedious stuff.
- Rebecca Lasley
"The tricky part is finding enough people to do the tedious stuff." Yup, that's the hardest part. I do think we can do lots more on "work design", work more on automation and mechanization (thinking about these things is a lot nicer than doing the tedious work itself) and also I think that a lot of tedious stuff simply wouldn't have to be done. Lots of consumption is fueled by advertising.
- Meryn Stol
Also, working as a craftsman is a lot more satisfying than being an anonymous drone in a factory. Economies could work on a much smaller scale.
- Meryn Stol
To quote Office Space, "Peter Gibbons: Our high school guidance counselor used to ask us what you'd do if you had a million dollars and you didn't have to work. And invariably what you'd say was supposed to be your career. So, if you wanted to fix old cars then you're supposed to be an auto mechanic. / Samir: So what did you say? / Peter Gibbons: I never had an answer. I guess that's...
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- Mark Trapp
I do believe we'll always be left with some "chores" to do. We could either try to distribute them fairly (everyone a few hours of chores each week) or we could explicitly assign status for people doing the "grunt work". Personally I think that current pay-scales need need to be virtually reserved. Doing only knowledge work is a luxury compared to hard manual labor.
- Meryn Stol
there is always a scarcity of services, and knowledge
- Mike Chelen
that and the oldest currency is that of the swapping of goods. You live in an area where you can't grow a specific plant, you trade items for it with those who can grow it. This scales up to various goods people can create that others can't. It eventually becomes the scarcity of serfices, goods and knowledge mentioned above.
- alphaxion
I believe it! The rice pudding I make is similar, only no rosewater and includes an egg. I do tend to add cinnamon and nuts to mine, though, so perhaps I should try this version.
- FFing Enigma
Has anyone stopped to think about what those"save the earth people/tree huger's/hippies" types drive? The VW bus and bugs one of the worst polluting vehicles. give's new meaning to "Save the Earth suck more carbon"
Well unfortunately, those tree huggers and hippies can't afford newer, better cars because they don't make much being activists. However, their carbon footprint overall is so vastly reduced, that them driving a VW bus doesn't bring them anywhere near to the gross polluter status that most Americans exhibit with their lifestyles. I can buy myself a Smartcar, but until I start living completely off the grid, I'm still a gross polluter.
- Hookuh Tinypants
Reminds me of Al Gore, he flies a huge jet and his mansion uses up tons of energy.
- Ken
And that is why people with my background, knowledge base, and experience have guaranteed job security. Because of idiots like Al Gore, self-righteous Al Gore-loving Dems, the entire Republican party, and the uninformed masses. I will be paid to educate the public, combat the media, and guide the green movement into a position of actually knowing these things and making the smart...
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- Hookuh Tinypants
Buying a Smartcar won't reduce your emissions. The gas mileage on those things sucks for as lightweight as they are.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I realize that. However, the Smartcar is still a viable counter to an old VW van.
- Hookuh Tinypants
I always though "those granola-eating, save the earth, hippies" all lived in California (or Oregon) and drive a Prius...(please read sarcasm)
- Kelly W.
It's hard to avoid generalizations when dealing with managing natural resources and the environment. There are so many misinformed people these days, and politicians and the media seem keen to keep it that way. I have to remain so unerringly neutral most of the time that it's frustrating. Especially when I see people make the statement that Zehn make. No, I don't really think all...
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- Hookuh Tinypants
Yessir. *salutes* I shall remember that next time I have to hear this tired old line.
- Hookuh Tinypants
@Amanda: brilliant stuff. a lot of environmental hand-waving can get you a Nobel PEACE prize--something that struck me as odd, but whatever--not to mention the $1M purse that goes along with the medal. I saw 'An Inconvenient Truth' when it first came out and left the theater shaking my head at the audacity of his allegations, but people bought into it! He wouldn't have gotten nearly the amount of attention he did if oil prices didn't escalate like they did. (cont.)
- grant fox
Yep, I'm in the 1% crowd that doesn't even own a car.. AND a Republican. :-)
- Ken
all that being said, I don't think Gore is an idiot; he is just pandering to a growing group within the population that is misinformed either by choice or design. there needs to be a compromise from both sides, that's what eventually is going to happen, and the world will be better off for it.
- grant fox
I agree, grant, Al Gore is a lot of things, idiot is definitely not one of them.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I consider Gore an idiot not because of his film but because of how huge a hypocrite he's been. He presents us with this film, and all this data, and asks us to think about the environment...and then he does little to show us that he's walking the talk. Perhaps "idiot" is too strong a word, but there it is. I can't unsay what I've already said.
- Hookuh Tinypants
if you think of environmentalism as a religion and accept that there are radicals in every religion, then you just write it off as par for the course and move on. it's when the radicals get listened to by the masses that you have to worry; the Taliban, Hitler, etc. But doesn't that usually happen under extreme circumstances? This is how I've concluded that although I get annoyed by the "tree-huggers" because of their inability to listen to me as much as they want me to listen to them, (cont.)
- grant fox
they might represent a serious problem at the core and that I shouldn't so easily dismiss their cries.
- grant fox
@grant: Very true. As someone once said, "The extreme always seems to make an impression." Unfortunately the radicals do kind of numb people to their cause by just becoming nuisances. It's like how nobody really flinches anymore when Berkely comes up with a wacky new law. We just shrug and chuckle and go "Oh, it's Berkeley." Unfortunately their core reasoning gets lost as a result. My...
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- Hookuh Tinypants
well said Amanda, I'm with you. I want Berkeley to do what they do, although I don't always agree with them. Every side needs to be heard and represented. it's just frustrating to me that in the western world one side is only getting heard via the media. i'm not asking people to bathe in oil, but please consider the many benefits delivered by having it in our lives. our modern society was built on petroleum, we'll find a way past it most likely in the next century only because it's running out.
- grant fox
Let's hug, grant. I like you. :D It's optimism like yours that keeps me going for one more day.
- Hookuh Tinypants
Amanda you shouldn't get frustrated with me :P, just blame Davis I do....They aren't the only ones I take notice of. Those so called peaceful protests that some how end up causing millions of dollars of damage. The auto ceo's flying in on jets. Some of those peta people who save the animals and some times burn down building. Davis who did Radiation testing on thousands of dogs and then buried them in the creek ( you know which one). Or wasting tax payers money to build a tunnel for frogs that don't use it.
- Zehnchu
OMG I'd forgotten about the fucking frogs. That was ridiculous. I love Davis. I really do. it's a lovely town and I've spent a lot of time there over the years, since my family first moved to Dixon actually. And they have the best food co-op I've been to ever. But the notions they get up to are just painful and ridiculous and while well-meaning, they are very questionable in their...
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- Hookuh Tinypants
And they definitely don't practice adaptive management, so instead of adjusting the process and trying again, they just leave these ridiculous things in place. More punchlines ensue. It's sad. It's too good a town to be so sideways.
- Hookuh Tinypants
You're not looking at this issue historically. At the time bugs came out, everyone had huge gas-hogging cars. The bugs were small. that's when the stickers came out. Now, it's just anachronistic.
- anna sauce
Holy shit, this thread is a serious blast from the past...
- Hookuh Tinypants
I'm a little confused... But I do love stumble! I really should start using it again. I wish that FriendFeed would automatically Stumble my likes for me...
- LarchOye
I agree Louis. I love SU and would love to have it available in FF.
- Molly
I just started using SU again and am hoping they will now restore what they almost did just right before eBay bought them. I wish there were a way to automagically sync all my FriendFeed, Twitter and cliKball folks and add them at SU too. I'm with Molly - maybe we could have that available here too. Then the question is what to share where. For those who don't know I am GrowMap everywhere so I'm easy to find.
- Internet Strategist
As for Shows: Inuyasha, Serial Experiment: Lain, Dual, Lupin the Third, Wolf's Rain, and Ghost in the Shell. Movies: Miyazaki has never disappointed me. Really enjoy Tales of Earthsea and Princess Mononoke.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Mahoraba! and Toradora! I loved 'em. Also Kimengumi is so silly :)
- directeur
Fist of the North Star is way up there in my book; Hellsing series; Ghost in the Shell; Akira; Ninja Scroll; Vampire Hunter D; Cowboy Bebop; Jin-Roh; Grave of the Fireflies made me cry (allegedly--not confirmed); Princess Mononoke; Steamboy; there's more but I can't think of them right now
- grant fox
There's no question, Berserk is far and away my favorite.
- Eric Florenzano
Haven't been watching much of anime but I like Appleseed, My Neighbor Totoro, Spirited Away, Rozen Maiden.
- Daniel Schildt
Kenshin, Naruto, Bleach, Negima, Detective Conan, Haruhi, Elfen Lied, Full Metal Alchemist, Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell, Air Gear, One Piece, Evangelion, Inuyasha, Initial D, ...... too many to mention here, really. Avatar doesn't count as anime, although it's cool
- LouCypher
Legend of the Overfiend. Gundam (pick one, any one). Lain.
- Alexander Williams
Samurai Champloo, Trigun, Death Note, Full Metal Alchemist, Naruto (just because it doesn't end. Actually I hate it)
- denizoktar
Actually I hate it :D btw, I love GTO too!
- directeur
Cowboy Bebop, Genshiken, Bleach, Graves of the Fireflies, Paranoid, Trigun
- Kim Landwehr
Elfen Lied, Serial Experiments: Lain, Ergo Proxy, Ghost in the Shell, Blood+ and Gun X Sword are some of my favourites. FLCL, Trigun and Death Note are neat too, but not really favs. I'm sure I forgot some.
- Daniel Bruce
Kenshin, Hikaru No Go, Record of Lodoss, Naruto, Death Note
- Alan Le
ikki tousen, ikki tousen, ikki tousen!!!!!
- D. Eda Goze
Serial Experiments: Lain always listed first. Cowboy Bebop, first series of Gunslinger Girl, Gate Keepers 21 (despite the really annoying girl), and good ole Star Blazers.
- Michael W. May
ROBOTECH, STAR BLAZERS, GATCHAMAN, LAST EXILE, GUNDAM WING, and AKIRA.
- Steven Perez
favorites? that's difficult. I'll pick Ergo Proxy for now
- Toni @ NavinoT
Samurai Champloo, Bleach, and definitely Karas.
- Mladen Srdić
Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, Anything by Miyazaki (especially Grave of the Fireflies), Astroboy, Full Metal Alchemist, Evangelion, Death Note - I'll shut up now ;o)
- Seth Greenblatt
I haven't seen too many, but of those I have: Akira, Grave of the Fireflies, Ghost in the Shell, Howl's Moving Castle. Mostly in that order, I think.
- Jandy
drive by comment (more later bc I'm at work): Shey +1 love Avatar.
- metalerik
Death Note, Neon Genesis would have to be my top 2 pick.
- David Adam
Ghost in the Shell, Appleseed, Spirited Away
- Michael Fidler
Love Hina, Inu -Yasha, Rurouni Kenshin, Lain, Avatar...
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Honey and Clover, Clannad, Welcome to the NHK, Genshiken
- directeur
Bubblegum Crisis, Crusher Joe, Samurai Champloo, Akira, Ghost in a Shell… too many… Oh Miyazaki stuff of course
- Remo
I have many favourites. samurai X, trigun, kyo( not teh movie but the comic), avatar, bleach............
- maria niayu
"Your smell. Deeply personal yet very social, it says so much about you. And now there's a social network for your nose, a friendspace for your fragrance, a place to share your opinions on perfumes and vote for your favorite smells. We call it smellr and it's online now."
- Morton Fox
from Bookmarklet
As a part of our redesign launch, you can post to FriendFeed by emailing share@friendfeed.com, and you can get your feed delivered via email (you can even comment by replying to the messages). See more here: http://friendfeed.com/share...
You can post from any email address associated with your account. Email notifications will go to your primary address.
- Tudor Bosman
Currently, we support automatic posting (without going through an "approve" page) for Gmail, Yahoo, and MSN/Hotmail/Live.com. We will add more email providers in the future, and we will also have a technical document on what an ISP needs to do in order to get added.
- Tudor Bosman
I thought a saw a "hello world" yesterday that got deleted rather quickly :)
- Frankie Warren
Isn't this a huge spam vector? All I have to know is someone's email address to mail from and I can send stuff to FF?
- Brian Sullivan
Brian: we use a number of methods including SPF to verify that emails came from the actual owner of the email address. If we can't verify, we make the entry go through an approval step before it is posted.
- Bret Taylor
from email
What Bret said; that's why we only support a few email providers right now.
- Tudor Bosman
from email
You should add more Twitter sharing options, so that I can have emailed-posts automatically tweeted. (like by emailing twitter@friendfeed.com). Then FF can become a replacement for services like twitpic
- Daniel Sims
So I could get spammed just by needing to approve posts that didn't come from me?
- Brian Sullivan
I don't see any way to turn it off for my account - does such a feature exist?
- Brian Sullivan
I just tried to send an email to a private group from a different email account and the request to approve it was sent back to the email address from which I sent the direct message. Is this the intended behavior?
- Shakeel Mahate
Shakeel: Yes. In order to approve the post, you have to log in to FriendFeed if you aren't logged in already.
- Tudor Bosman
Brian: as Shakeel noted, the approval request will be sent to the email address that was used to post. If someone is trying to spam, they will receive the approval request, not you. In order to approve, though, they would have to log in to FriendFeed, so they can only impersonate you if they know your FriendFeed password.
- Tudor Bosman
It is sent to the address that the user claimed does it not ? If they claimed to be me I would get the request? Spam may be an over statement -- but it certainly could be annoying.
- Brian Sullivan
Curious if setting the reply to different than the from will have effect on this? registered with yahoo, but yahoo sends out all mail with gmail as reply to...
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Brian, that is correct. We will address this issue if it becomes a real problem; we do have some spam-prevention measures in place.
- Tudor Bosman
Rob: you need to associate with your account the address that you send from (that is, the address in the From: header).
- Tudor Bosman
Tudor, I think your solution is brilliant, thank you.
- Shakeel Mahate
Tudor: I'm not seeing IM notifications on "comments on posts I commented on" (and maybe same for posts I liked
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: we just added that feature last night, so yeah, it's possible that there are some bugs. Looking into it.
- Tudor Bosman
Thanks Tudor. I'll be keeping an eye out for it...I've only got those set (but I did get blasted before I turned off the "Home Feed" notifications
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Not seeing IM posts to @me going thru. :( This makes me a sad panda.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Added another mail to stream via cellphone, but confirmation reply never came in, a bug maybe?
- Nir Ben Yona
great stuff! i mean ..stuFF .... thanks! ..you are the befft ! .. and will be even beffer .. Im quite sure about that .. LoFFe all the new ffeatures. ! ......... do you think to enable also x@ff.im? it might be handy, save typing
- pb:
AND you guys successfully omitted email signatures from DMs and posts!
- Mona Nomura
is that new Mona? The last DM I sent via email included my signature. (was a few days ago)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
is there email notifications for groups?? i know you can post to groups via email, but i dont see the way to turn on emails out of groups.
- Frankie Warren
So that means no more using the remote key in the email address? That's SWEET.
- Jandy
Frankie—Not yet. For now you can add the groups you'd like to receive notifications for to a friend list and enable email notifications for that list.
- Dan Hsiao
Dan: Thanks for the work around... I hope a more intuitive method eventually shows up :)
- Frankie Warren
Hey everyone reading this on Twitter - come join the party on Friendfeed :)
- Phill Price
I leave for a few hours and FF Co. goes and WINs all over the place. Can't leave you alone for a second :)
- grant fox
Mona, Rob: we tweaked the email signature detection code a bit, and should get rid of the default signatures from iPhone, Blackberry, and WinMo phones, as well as small variations (HI MONA). If you want to ensure that your signature gets dropped, configure the signature to include "-- " (two dashes and a space) on a line by itself before the actual signature text.
- Tudor Bosman
Bret, it looks good, liking the new email and IM features. I've still got a huge suggestions and bug list. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Grant, I went off to watch a rare bit of TV then come back to all this! LOL. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I could not post via email, because I guess I never confirmed my email address. I updated my email with the same one and clicked on the link that was subsequently sent to me. Now posts via email work.
- Chip Ramsey
Is old interface via mail2ff going anywhere? I'd like to continue authorizing my posts with remotekey.
- Alex Kapranoff
Ryo -- is your gmail address in your ff list of email addresses?
- Brian Sullivan
Ryo: That may be the same thing that was happening to me. Did you try to add the same email address again? It should fire a confirmation email that provides a link. After I clicked the link, I was then able to send posts via my email.
- Chip Ramsey
Ryo: BTW, I'm also on gmail and everything works fine now, so gmail itself probably is not the problem.
- Chip Ramsey
Nice... I will update my contact list asap! Feature heaven...mmmm
- Susan Beebe
Any word on getting other mail addresses to only need authorization once? Have to approve my emails from my cell phone every time is a royal pita!! Pretty please make att.net a single-authorization mail????? Especially since it's an authorized address!!
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I'm with Rudi. I'm also with ATT.net so will wait for solutions. Molly
- Molly
from email
So should we replace the old <username>+plaza360demos@mail2ff.com with share@friendfeed.com ?
- scott willeke
"The accessory market has responded to Apple's challenge of getting an entire day's use out of the iPhone 3G with a range of external batteries. Some function as "dongles" that attach to the bottom, while others are built into protective cases that, upon first glance, look as though their designers were drawing blueprints while under the influence. Incase's Power Slider is neither of these things."
- Devon Campbell
from Bookmarklet
sexy! Best one yet, props to the team who came up with this :-)
- vijay
Looks stunning. This would make a nice case, let alone that it's a battery back up as well. Nice!
- Fox Tucker
$99 they say but it adds .4 inches to the width.
- Amani
Looks great! Am I just seeing things or is that a standard USB B port at the bottom as well? Useful for just charging with more available cables and other secondary charging sources. Amazing if it enables syncing via that port as well!
- Jamie Dool
@Jamie I believe the port either charges the battery or syncs. There is a button on the case that you hold for a few seconds. After that, the data is passed through.
- Devon Campbell
I held it today at the Apple store in SF. It's extremely light and has a good fit and finish but it does add a noticeable thickness to the phone that I'm not sure I want in my standard front pocket carrying location.
- Jamie Dool
Just bought it and LOVE it. Don't mind the thickness. Much better than carrying around a dead brick!
- Ryan Brack
I could NOT use my iPhone without this; otherwise, with all of my "pushing" and surfing and music-ing, my phone did not last past 5PM, and that is no exaggeration. Thus, when I saw this and some positive reviews, it was a no-brainer. Now, I run my phone in the same way I did before but with the brightness cranked to the top, the wireless on at all times and at 5PM I'm usually still at 100% battery. Fantastic product (although I did see some pictures of new, thinner ones out or coming out...)!
- Brandon Blattner
I wonder when the new thin ones will come out. I just got a case today but I would spring for the newer thin ones. Any idea?
- Amani
Just picked up one of these today as a result of needing to go to the genius bar for something else... can't wait for it to finish charging!!!
- JR
Tested the device on the 3GS and it works fine. Actually it will work on all three generations. Prior to OS 3.0, I used to get a message on the 2G when connected 'not made for this device' or something, but haven't seen it again since upgrading to 3.0. However it doesn't really fit the 2G design, as it is really made for the 3G/3GS forma factor, but it will work in a pinch!
- JR
In what way does twitter do anything to give yourself a feeling of getting attention without community participation?
- Sue - Friendfeed is best
Yeah, i don't know if it's attention really, more like attachment. I see Twitter as a steppingstone channel to FF. Eventually, everyone will be here, primarily, or a place like it.
- Thom Kennon
Suezanne (and others who have the same question),on twitter if you have good content people will find you (via RT. And you get notified when people reshare your tweets so you know your stuff gets around unlike on FF). On FF, um... good luck with that.
- vijay
Ofcourse, I don't care about twitter since I'm not on the internet for "attention". I'm here for "conversation" which is why you can see my massive comment + like count on my FF profile : )
- vijay
I guess I'm not understanding what you mean by community involvement then. People finding your comments seems like community involvement, as does retweeting.
- Sue - Friendfeed is best
there's a misunderstanding. To be clear, I can keep pushing tweets and get tons of followers and retweets WITHOUT interacting with *any* of my followers on twitter. On FF, to get attention to one's stuff one has to get out and interact with others for them to pay attention to one's feed.
- vijay
And of course, FF is logically more rewarding.
- Mo Kargas
depends on what "reward" the person is looking for. I have seen tons of bloggers on FF complain that twitter gives them better ROI. For bloggers it's all about traffic. And twitter gets them that with the least amount of effort.
- vijay
To be clear, I'm not particularly a fan of twitter. It's just that I saw many pose this question around March; I thought about it and posted my thoughts on it. That's all.
- vijay
I'd agree w/ vijay. the more time I spend on FF, the more value I get. however, I don't have that much time to devote to FF's conversations on a consistent basis. for now, Twitter is still more rewarding to me.
- jbrotherlove
This was a rousing success at my Potluck Easter dinner (as were the crab cakes). Don't tell anyone this was my first time EVER making Mac & Cheese. I have to thank mom for the perfect recipe. No one even knew!!!
- Amani
I don't watch American Idol, but I'm trying to understand the appeal. Clay Aiken, Ruben Studdard, Taylor Hicks have all lost their record deals. Does anyone care about these people once the show is over?
Or is it just indicative of the ongoing loss of business in the music industry?
- Derrick
Wasn't Carrie Underwood an Idol winner too?
- FFing Enigma
The only one who has really made something of herself was the first winner Kelly Clarkson. All the other ones seem to have never really made it, so I am not sure if it is indicative of what is going on in the music industry. Well..Fantasia is doing The Color Purple.
- Shevonne
I know that the American Idol concert series makes a lot of money every time it rolls around. Probably the fact that the whole process is documented, people burn through the appeal of these singers before they ever press an album.
- Mike Nayyar
Isn't it primarily for fleeting entertainment for the viewers; ratings for the TV networks, and money in the pockets of the promoters? Anyway, since when did major record labels ever give a crap about the artists? That leads back to the whole RIAA thing suing illegal downloaders and pretending they're protecting artists...
- Ian May
The novelty seems to wear off pretty fast after the show ends. I've never watched it, but I can't see anyone really wanting to check out one of the singers after the hype goes away.
- James Ferguson
I dont watch Derrick. The only thing on tv worth watching is the Tudors!
- Erin @queenofspain
thank god. I thought I was the only one who didn't get the appeal of it. My sis still raves about it but someday she'll come around. I think.
- vijay
Joni Mitchell sang about "the star-making machinery" and it's true. Most artists are only good for a few years, then they renegotiate their deals so they get a better cut and those who were feeding off of their talent, move on to a more profitable sucker. You need to stroke and stoke those screaming fans.
- Phil Boiarski
I think it just goes to show how fickle the music buying public is. However, how many seasons have there been? 7? If you get a Carrie Underwood and a Kelly Clarkson out of every 4 or 5 shows you're doing pretty well compared to the standard music business.
- Kenton
I enjoy it while it's on, but they generally do a much better job of promoting the show than of promoting the singers that emerge from the show. And the first album (the "Idol" album) is almost always dreck. Even Kelly's first one wasn't that good - it was the second one that gave her staying power. Carrie's also done well, by staying in the country niche and doing it well (I guess, I'm not a country fan).
- Jandy
I stopped watching it 2 years back. After they dodged Bo Brice and then Chris Daughtry which are both very talented I saw that it was just cliquish and like high school. And not for true talent! I thought they had even canceled AI but I guess it is still on. :(
- aerobroken
@aerobroken I forgot about Daughtry, he's becoming pretty popular and seems to be on the verge of hitting it big.
- Kenton
The appeal I'd hazard is largely due to America's obsession with celebrity being the next big thing: getting your 15 minutes, almost everyone wants it, Ive never watched it starting from season 1
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Interesting that some 35 million people watch every week, and the ratio of successful careers after the show is virtually nil. At first I thought people just wanted to watch the gawd-awful audition process, but people watch right up until the very end.
- Derrick
there was a FF post a few weeks back about artists that would never make it on American Idol, with most of the artists being some of our most treasured musicians (Bob Dylan, Kurt Cobain, et al.). I think American Idol is a perversion of the American Dream, plastic-wrapped for your viewing convenience and pleasure. rags-to-riches gone mad.
- grant fox
and I heard a statistic that more people voted on American Idol than for president of the US.
- grant fox
Derrick that's like saying the Pinto, AMC Pacer, and the Yugo suck as cars so why should anyone be interested in cars? Daughtry, Clarkson, and Underwood are all doing well. A lot of fine crooners were on this year and someone will take off. That's why I watch. To see people overcome and do something good, possibly even great.
- Todd Hoff
There have been a lot of careers launched via Idol. Kelly Clarkson = international hit. Carrie Underwood = sells millions of albums every time she sneezes, has a bundle of Grammys and CMA awards. Chris Daughtry = 4x platinum. Kelly Pickler = quite successful in countryland. (A whole batch of Idols have actually charted in the country world, where being wholesome, attractive, and...
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- Roger Benningfield
Roger, I'm not saying people haven't been successful post-Idol, what I'm saying is that the media has portrayed these current two finalists in this big last show sing-off right down to the wire. Hell, I own a Kelly Clarkson CD (and it gets a lot of play because I think it's a good album, frankly). I know Carrie U., Daughtry, etc. have done well, but it seems to me that...well, for example, the dude that won last year, where is he? Is that David Cook (I don't even know his name)?
- Derrick
I suppose. Out of all the people who've ever appeared on Idol (full disclosure: I stopped watching it a while ago, although I'm aware of it's popularity), I've only bought the Clarkson CD. And I'm not arguing with these people's success. I just know people are die hard fans of the show, yet when the people release music, they have yet to buy a CD. But that might just be the blight of the music industry over all.
- Derrick
I've never watched the show and have no interest in it. The whole premise of reality television bothers me. Basically the networks get mass viewership for little in the way of production value. I suppose Idol is a bit of an exception. The judges surely aren't doing it for free. And a lot goes into the music and sets and such. But the "talent" gets nothing. They're basically working for...
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- MoTO Bott
I think less than 10% of the people interested in the show are actually interested in the careers of the winners. The appeal, I am guessing, is based off of seeing something new, watching it develop, and judging it to be good or bad.
- Brendan Clancy
1UP Brendan. I dare say that most people are even more smitten with the tryout portion of the show where the painfully clueless seem to make fools of themselves.
- Derrick
Derrick, I actually love that part! Think its hysterical... not hysterical enough to DVR or anything, but still.
- Brendan Clancy
Just what _the hell_ was he hoping to do, and did he swallow anything .. like his tongue, or some teeth, perhaps? So many questions...
- Wayne Smallman
What is the white object comes out from his head?
- Alp
Funny, but it's a good thing FF is real-time now, so this GIF will soon disappear from view.
- Grey Drane
Classic clip from 'So You Think You Can Dance'. Good times.
- Quinton
That was the winner from "So You Think You Can SLAM Dance?" ;)
- Jericho
OUCH! The So You Think You Can Dance auditions are always good for at least a couple of these. :) I need to find out when that's starting up again...or I could just calculate based on how many more weeks of American Idol there are, I guess.
- Jandy
lmao!!! knew that would pop up sometime!!!
- Rob Sellen :o)
Makes it look like he never practiced at all! At least he'll get his 15 minutes of fame, though I'm imagining he didn't want that kind.
- Michael Turner
Trying to figure out how to get animated gifs in my feed so I can get rid of all those pesky followers.
- Hayes Haugen
Nothing better then an animated faceplant
- Will Higgins™
I hate watching these videos because I keep wondering what happened after, what was the damage!!.. Damn it there is no point in watching if you dont know the result.
- denizoktar
"as a white-ass whitey whose culinary cultural heritage is basically limited to Butter and Cheese and More Butter, let me be the first to thank asians for filling me with shame [cue self-flagellation]"
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
"The 80’s were a decade of decadence, with everything being bigger, crazier, and more over the top. It was the beginning of the age of insanity, and yet somehow, out of the midst of all of the big crazy hair and drug use and Reaganomics, a few gems that could withstand the test of time were born. Even if the hair and clothes change, some things just stay perfect. With that we present…"
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
no goonies? Beverly Hills Cop? Ghostbusters? Terminator? Mind you, there are too many 80's movies to ever come up with a list as short as 12 :P
- alphaxion
the 80's were great for all! ..what about music? In those movies have to be "Trainspotting" THE 80's movie :)
- xavi
I'm skeptical. Gotta leave for work now, but I'll check out the list soon and get back with my verdict. And xavi, what are you talking about? Trainspotting is 1995.
- Jandy
I haven't seen a few of the movies, but judging by the ones I have seen. Yes. The list is acceptable.
- Joe "Brrzzzzzzt" Pierce
I suppose it's acceptable. Of them all, I only really love The Princess Bride and Die Hard. I like Ferris Bueller and Bill & Ted well enough. Top Gun and The Thing are all right. And the others I haven't seen. Nope, not an '80s convert yet.
- Jandy
I can't believe they have missed out the Goonies! :-( Explorers too. Love that, like the in-space version of Goonies. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
you know there's a karate kid and weekend at Bernies remakes in the works? The karate kid remake will be called "kungfu kid" and have Jackie Chan as Mr Miagi
- alphaxion
Get a Sony Reader. And give me a break, I know you still have a US credit card. Just have it shipped to me or Ovidiu @ the office and we'll ship it to Singapore for you. :-)
- Piaw Na
Yes there is, but the Kindle DX screen is heck bigger, and usable in direct sunlight, and doesn't cause eyestrain. But maybe there'll be a 10" Ipod HD soon. It'll cost $1000, but it'll have an Apple logo so you'll buy it. :-)
- Piaw Na
I think Apple has an easier job distributing the ipods.
- Piaw Na
thank you. I know the Croatian coastal roads - the so-called Adriatic 'magistrala'. I have witnessed several deadly wrecks there, just visiting the coast for the summer when I was a kid. Definitely deserves its deadly reputation. But the other roads look even scarier. No way I'd drive on any of them!
- Bora Zivkovic
In Ray Bradbury's novel "Fahrenheit 451," a dystopian society forbids too much thinking because it makes people upset. There is a small grain of truth to this. Discussions of morality often create emotionally-charged conversations.
It is never one's duty to annoy. Well, unless it's a covert psychological warfare thing. But normally, deliberately annoying others is completely worthless and in fact counter-productive. By annoying, you bring up every mental defense your opponent has. That of course is merely a quibble of semantics.
- i80and
So, i80and, I should limit the number of my emotionally-charged morality discussions?
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Not the number; the intent. You argue to convince, not to annoy. Unless you like wasting your time, that is. Annoyance may be a side-effect, but it should be minimized as much as possible. It only gets in the way.
- i80and
If one doesn't eventually shut his piehole regarding morality, annoyance is guaranteed. Though I would take an opportunity to reduce said annoyance.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)