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A little test for an article I'm writing: what's the best retailer to buy a Canon 5D MK II at?
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will you accept negative comments too?
- Conor Ogle
My bias is BH Photo in New York. What's yours? I know Loic ordered his from Amazon.com. Where would you go to buy a camera?
- Robert Scoble
Conor: absolutely!
- Robert Scoble
a local one that knows the prices on the web and adapt his prices based on that. If he is very talented and connected with the other photographer this a very goog thing, because he will get your old camera and sell it to somebody else. I got one like that in the area, but this is in Switzerland ;-)
- Frédéric Sidler
If in NY, Adorama or B&H; helpful to buy from someone who understands cameras (and, esp lenses). If mail order, then either of above or Amazon (Amazon is return friendly, so low risk if issues arise)
- Barry Graubart
I've used B&H since the early 80s. JR.com is excellent, also.
- John Craft
I ordered from Adorama - website does not show stock levels. Two weeks of being told by surprisingly rude service staff they had no stock, I sourced one elsewhere. Successfully cancelled Adorama order and yet next day UPS arrived with Adorama stock. Strange, expensive experience.
- Conor Ogle
I purchased my 5D MK II from Crutchfield. Normally I would buy from B&H, but they were not accepting orders in early December due to the backlog. I ordered one on Dec. 1, it delivered on Dec 28th. Great customer experience from Crutchfield. http://www.crutchfield.com
- Francis Shepherd
I've had bad experiences with Adorama and Abe's of Maine, similar to Conor's. From Abe's, I had a "credit card verification" call, because I was shipping the SLR to a different address than my credit card. That was a day after the order, the next business day (a Monday), I got another call saying my AMEX didn't go through! With virtually no spending limit, I told them that's impossible....
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- Paul Salzman
from twhirl
(I meant $20 more than Abe's) and ordered with the same card, btw (some reason I couldn't edit the comment).
- Paul Salzman
I bought mine from Adorama and had an excellent experience. I know people complain about stock levels, and I would too if I was on the wrong end of that waiting period but I ordered mine, and it was shipped the next business day. I've also purchased a lot of camera gear from Amazon and BHphoto.com, great experiences with both of them as well, just didn't have the 5D in stock when I wanted to buy.
- Michael
i would look at Fry's Electronics. it is where i buy most of my stuff
- Rodney Rumford
Rodney: I would never buy a camera like this from Fry's. First of all, they don't carry a lot of high end gear. Second of all, I've gotten too many things there that were previously opened. Third, I want to deal with someone who understands cameras at least a little bit.
- Robert Scoble
Adorama or B&H. I give the edge to Adorama because their customer service is top notch.
- Carlos Ayala
I don't mind waiting for items which are not in stock. What I don't appreciate is a website which is alone in NOT showing items are out-of-stock/backordered and then processes my order before contacting me after 2 days to advise stock situation. I prefer Calumet (certainly in the UK) though their online stock level information isn't perfect either. I don't need any sales service - I have chosen exactly what I want before I start my online transaction - I just want to pay and secure delivery.
- Conor Ogle
well depends on how u define best.If all u care is the lowest price then there are several of those I bet.If you care bout if the product is genuine & service etc then there are a few of those. So the thing to ask really is What criteria to use to buy a specific product from one of many retailers.
- Baba
I bought my Nikon D300 from 17photo.com; the main reason was while Amazon, Adorama, BH, Ritz etc said that they are backordering (because of popular demand and lack of the product at the very beginning) less-known stores like 17Photo were offering it "in stock" And as a Turkish guy living in Istanbul, I dared to order my D300 (and a couple of accessoires) from 17Photo (shipped to Portland) And I was very happy with the results
- Ozgur Poyrazoglu
Right now, Adorama seems to be leading the pack in terms of getting 5D mk iis. I'm an affiliate for adorama, b&h etc and Adorama's not only selling the most, but they seem to be delivering within a few days even if their site says not in stock - please read my blog post http://bit.ly/lR5b where Adorama customer service contacted me out of the blue! They're working customer service issues around the web it seems. They're even posting on forums now. Good CS.
- planetMitch
Update: even while typing my comment above, adorama contacted me via twitter to say: "@planetMitch We're getting them in every 10 days or thereabouts.helen.oster@adoramacamera.com. Adorama Customer Service Ambassador" No other photo vendor i know of is using Twitter/forums to help customers.
- planetMitch
B&H and Adorama.
- Thomas Hawk
Amazon, J&R or B&H. I used to get stuff from Adorama too but now they charge tax for both NY & NJ so now I only get the occasional small item from them that I can just pick up from their storefront.
- ronin
B&H - since I'm local I can physically go there, and mail orders get to me in 2 days. I've bought a few things at Adorama. And if I want something on a Saturday I go to J&R (since B&H and Adorama are closed for Sabbath).
- Tom Harrison
B&H is a great online vendor (for those of us not local). I hate to say it, but the brick and mortars like Keeble & Shuchat in Palo Alto, and Pro Photo in Portland have a tough road ahead. What I do not do is pick their brains and buy elsewhere however. If I go in those stores and poke around solo, I'm OK with buying elsewhere, but I only engage a salesperson when I know I'm about to give them some business.
- Ryan
I am totally biased, but I recommend B&H :)
- Shmully Litvin
this question could be construed as a way to get people to talk bout Vendors for free thereby advertising them.Maybe Scoble is finding a new revenue model to get more moolah for his Brand.Possible that the mention of these many vendors gets more traffic without actually pushing the vendor. Nice way to market.
- Baba
Without question Hunts Photo. Gary Farber always come thru when you need your equipment no matter what the wait line is like.
- Juan Pons
Rodney: you must live close to a "good' Fry's, because my shopping experience there has been consistently bad. Poor service after sale, unknowledgeable salespeople, horrible product-return experience and bad housekeeping. The only thing I buy at Fry's is components, when I need them in a pinch. Certainly would never buy anything high-end there. If Costco sold the 5D Mark II, I'd buy there before Fry's!
- Paul Salzman
from twhirl
Most of my electronics are purchased through B&H. I've also used J&R and Adorama, but always check B&H first. Now if only the economy could turn around, I would love to place an order for this item!
- jcunwired
B+H: Closed on sundays, closes randomly for religious holidays, frequently out of stock. Crutchfield: Order once, they will spam you forever with catalogs. Adorama: Good. Abe's of Maine: good, Buydig.com: If it's in stock, it's cheaper. Most camera places will give you the BS "Credit card verification phone call" which is actually the "upsell you on accessories" call. I hate this about buying camera gear -- it never happens with computer gear. Stay away from Fry's for this sort of thing as well.
- netik
I have a wonderful local store who I occasionally do work for (I do their monthly newsletters and geek stuff) http://www.acephoto.net Their website isn't much, but every person there is a pro photographer and he's been a Canon Authorized dealer for over 15 years and has a loyal following in the DC Metro area.
- David Silvernail
Amazon.
- Eric P
Did you get the input you were looking for ? Presume I can guess which article you are referring to !
- Murali
Robert, I use B&H and Amazon almost exclusively. Adorama can be OK, but I don't prefer them as their automated communications regarding order and shipment status sucks compered with Amazon and B&H. My only knock about B&H is their bizarre hours of operation due to their observation of the Jewish religion.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I live in NYC so I'd probably walk over to Adorama or B&H with the price from their site in my hand
- Bastard Operator From FF
Amazon or B&H. My current camera is from Circuit City (before this dying thing) because they had a crazy deal at the time. Otherwise, I trust the two I named.
- Jordan Hofker
Online, I'd go with B&H. I've never been disappointed by their service. Local, I'd go to Keeble & Shuchat. I came an inch from putting myself on their wait list. Opted for a different Canon.
- Rick Bucich
B&H, Amazon, or Adorama (in that order)
- Matthew Hunt
Got mine from Amazon, the only camera dealer that 1) has never defrauded me and 2) doesn't turn off their online store on days I like to shop.
- William Storage
Amazon all the way. It's their business to perfect the online retail model, and they are doing a very good job. If you have Prime, or a friend with it, you can have the camera to your door much quicker and cheaper than any competitors.
- Tyler Brownfield
I went with Amazon for our 5D Mark II. Arrived in two days, as usual, free shipping. I'd also check with Dell, especially if you have a biz rep -- Dell can usually beat anyone's price if they like you (e.g. you order lots from them), but shipping may be a bit slower. Back when the 30D was new, I got two from Dell for about 20% less than Amazon's lowest price.
- lilbyrdie
I live in NYC, so I buy outside NY. BeachCamera.com is usually cheapest. B&H is great if you don't live here though.
- Tamar Weinberg
One out of 39 people follows me on friendfeed. I discuss why that has deep implications for news brands here:
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I'm followed by more people than anyone else here, according to http://www.ffholic.com/ but yet only one out of j39 people here are following me (26,009 follow me, TechCrunch reports that there's a million unique members on friendfeed). News organizations should understand these changes because they used to have great centralized distribution. Those days are now over. More to come shortly.
- Robert Scoble
I read your friend feed daily Robert to pick up on new information, see what you have to say about what's new in the world of technology and anything else that sparks my interest.
- Steve Eisenberg
Is it because the Kindle 2.0's coming out soon..;o)
- sofarsoShawn
It used to be that we watched three TV stations and read one or two newspapers. Those days are over. Now we follow our friends and get our news through http://search.twitter.com and Facebook. That has huge implications for news brands who no longer will be the place that we go to get news.
- Robert Scoble
Friendfeed is giving us a new kind of news distribution system. Thanks to "likes" we can tell our friends about things that are important. The news brands are NOT in charge of that distribution method and it drives them nuts and they don't understand it at all yet.
- Robert Scoble
The beauty of this is that it's interactive, and on friendfeed people actually want the discussion. There's something for everyone. More importantly though the network effect is still in play here.
- Richard A.
It was eather you or Ivan d'Troll
- paul mooney
I talked with execs from LeFigaro, France's #1 newspaper on Thursday. They were interested, but from the look in their eyes I could tell they really don't understand how Facebook and friendfeed work to distribute news, not to mention http://search.twitter.com which was important during the aftermath of the plane crash.
- Robert Scoble
Richard: EXACTLY. This is two-way and news brands can't control it. They don't like this kind of news. They like the old way where they reported and you watched or read.
- Robert Scoble
One implication I see is that the traditional method for a news organization to build a brand are no longer relevant. What suggestions do you have for a news organization that does want to build a brand?
- Daniel Bachhuber
Over the last year or so I've found out about more breaking news from twitter/Friendfeed than from CNN etc. All the news sources don't cater to individuals while things like here are personalized.
- BCK
this is adding proof to Rubel's piece about friendfeed as the new blogging platform http://friendfeed.com/e...
- sofarsoShawn
Daniel: make lots of friends on Facebook and friendfeed and Twitter. Understand how news gets spread and found and produced on these networks. Get EVERYONE that works for you a Kodak Zi6 camcorder or FlipCam and make them post videos. Get on Seesmic and Twhirl and TweetDeck. Understand why entrepreneurs around the world now have a TweetDeck screen on their desks.
- Robert Scoble
Daniel: I now have a real-time-web desk in my home with four computers so I can track what is going on in real time from around the world. Every news organziation should do this. Also, I now am following 7,000 here, 21,000 on Twitter, 5,000 on Facebook, 900 on Google Reader. That inbound lets me see what the world's conversation is and lets me see news before most people do. If I were an assigning editor at a newspaper, this is what I'd be doing. Then I'd be sending reporters out to get the real story.
- Robert Scoble
FriendFeed is a data flow that anyone can manipulate to get the right information for them. It's 1-to-1 news. It is annotated and made more valuable via comments, providing a real-time interaction with your own personal news. [edit] Welcome to the world Gibson imagined.
- AJ Kohn
Robert, even though brands can't control it, whats great is the Freindfeed encourages them to converse. By allowing to cross post a FF comment on Disqus for instance, brands and their customers can engage in the discussion both here and on their properties.
- Sameer
Sameer: been using diqus and I like how easy it makes commenting on all blogs that use it, and how simple keeping track of those comments is.
- Richard A.
I think it means 97.4% of people on FriendFeed do NOT use FF to keep up with the latest social media or web tech news. I'd say most people don't use FF as a source for news at all, but rather, to keep up what their friends are doing across the internets.
- Daniel Sims
Daniel: I would also open up hundreds of rooms here on friendfeed where they can track news stories and companies and people who are interesting to them and shove in all sorts of RSS feeds. Like what I'm doing with my Davos room. http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I don't disagree with you, but I think that it begs a larger discussion about the role of a *large* news brand. The news industry, imho, should focus on empowering communities to report their news, because the day and age of reporters as information *collectors* is gone.
- Daniel Bachhuber
Daniel: that is true, but that is also news and news spreads through these networks very quickly because we trust our friends and family to tell us when important stuff is happening in the world.
- Robert Scoble
Sameer said what I'd say. Now if I could just nudge a few of mine to converse here. The flow is great on friendfeed + the ease of seeing what people say on their other services they've linked here.
- mrsha
But the problem is that the technorati sometimes forgets about regular people and get so busy with recycling the same info and blowing flowers up each others backsides that you don't get any traction unless your content is tech related. How would a brand of soap, a car maker, or a blog about b grade movies use this kind of network?
- MarkCarras
Yeah, but you're probably a friend-of-a-friend to all of'em.
- Glen Campbell
Being able to discuss news, is where the power of FF lies in comparison to 'old-style' news. It's also a main differentiator of FF over Twitter. FF let's you get into discussions and get to know people. Twitter is 'just' the start/intro of that conversation. Each having their own merits.
- Ronald
Ronald, you also don't wait for a moderator to say they like the comment. As soon as it's said you get feedback.
- Richard A.
Robert, just because there are lots of people here doesn't make this a particularly interesting place for brands. Most of the stuff happening here is volatile. Btw I noticed that I'm nr 556 on that list. Pretty high imo since I tend to not be so serious about FF ;-)
- Alexander van Elsas
FF, twitter, FB, etc all provide word of mouth recommendations, which most of us trust much more than something being "sold" to us
- Ryan
Alexander: newsbrands will LOVE friendfeed rooms. Just wait and see.
- Robert Scoble
I hope to bring FriendFeed to my friends and Norwegian people. I'm trying as good as I can to talk positive about both FriendFeed and Twitter, but Norwegians are not that easy to convince... I see the potential.
- Qbat
Alexander: Brands don't have a choice really. If critical discussions start happening on this platform and the Goog starts indexing it, it better become "particularly interesting" over night. Volatile or dormant becomes less of an issue.
- Sameer
"from the look in their eyes I could tell they really don't understand" Likely those execs were born too soon to get it. Eventually they will retire and they will be replaced with those that understand. Not sure how long that will take.
- Phil Margolies
to me this means that the quantity and quality of a network becomes ever so important. who are the connectors, who are the amplifiers, who are the ones who stop information, the negative connectors or de-amplifiers, how many amplifiers are needed depending on the vertical or the brand or the product or the strategy and goals. and how do these amplifiers will use their new powers within a given network? fascinating.
- Pascal Bouvier
Yes, this means that the decentralized networks are important; but I'd guess that at least 1 in 3 FF users gets their news from mainstream news sites like CNN.com, Bloomberg.com, cnbc, etc; many FF and Twitter users use microblogging platforms to get less formal news - the info not available through the traditional platforms.
- Barry Graubart
Maybe a future video-blog post: I think it would be neat to see your real-time-web-desk with four computers.
- Bill Romanos
@robert scoble if you film that do it in the highest res possible :-)
- Richard A.
if one out of every 39 on here follows you, and everyone on twitter is worth $42, how much does that make us worth on here? hmm?
- rob friedman
does the fact that Twitter doesn't allow its tweets to be indexed by search engines (a good move IMHO...can you imagine the clutter otherwise?) decay the total value of the service?
- Jason Salas
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Jason, what do you mean? If you think tweets aren't indexed, try a Google search for "wajiii plightbo".
- Bill Jackson
from twhirl
Robert - At present, agreed that your comments could in fact make a difference ... maybe even be a responsibility. On the other hand, that 'power' could quickly be diluted by someone (or numerous people) working hard to generate a similar following on Friendfeed. In the meantime. Use it wisely and YOU can make a difference. Everyone else needs to realize that the landscape has changed .... and they can too...in many ways
- Charlie Anzman
Robert - I do not think any larger news brand that is currently out there could implement the type of news aggregation and reporter assignment system that you spoke about to the other Daniele earlier. I think that any incredibly innovative idea like that has to come from a new, fresh organization. Journalism of the future will soon be coming. But not from a CNN, MSNBC, FOX, or other.
- Daniel Zarick
p.s. I have seen a picture of your real-time desk, but I would like to see a video of it all in action too.
- Daniel Zarick
@daniel believe me you don't wanna see it. You must be a currency broker to get used to the speed of his real-time feed. I've seen it on CES and it was just crazy. Btw. as someone who just explored twitter and friendfeed and all this stuff, a couple of weeks ago, my personal conclusion is: Hell, i missed something out.
- Sascha Pallenberg
@Robert Scoble: FFholic (aka FriendFeedHolic) tracks 185207 public and 23445 private users on FriendFeed, now. And surely, this is nearly the total number of users on FriendFeed.
- Arda Kutsal
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- Allen Stern
yum pizzzzaaa - I am from NY and I just love a good slice o pie - but out on the West Coast there is none to be found that beats say a RAY'S PIZZA SLICE of NYC
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@Barry, you mean Rays on 6th ave and 11th st?
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One of my friends just called me and asked what is Facebook. lol
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I'm always surprised at how many people have never heard of Facebook - or LinkedIn.com
- Bill Sodeman
from twhirl
Yeah so many people, even in my IT program have never heard of LinkedIn
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Surely that should be "What WAS Facebook"?
- Chris Nixon
Over here in the UK there are loads of people in the North of England who have no idea what Facebook is all about!
- Joe Dawson
A virus.
- l0ckergn0me
We must analyse her lifestyle. Corvida, ask her myspace, google, yahoo and finally windows.
- Erhan Erdogan
@Corvida I don't get it either
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I knew but I didn't join until last last week.
- Franklin Naval
welcome to the real world :)
- Naor Mark
Usually parents ask something like that.
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a lot of my high school friends are JUST getting on to Myspace...and I've been out of hs for a while
- James Williams
it's hard to believe that some people have lives that don't revolve around sitting in front of a computer way too much...
- Scott Lockhart
Facebook is a super boring site.
- Thomas Hawk
I actually think that FF is what I wanted Facebook to be.
- Chris Nixon
"What the (bleep) is the internet" - Jay from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
- George Smith
I'm a student. Facebook is the only thing alot of them know. Twitter, Flickr, Linkedin -- like speaking Klingon.
- Phillip Jeffrey
What closet, rock or hole have they been living in? Doesn't know what Facebook is? OMG you've got to be kidding me!
- Susan Beebe
Facebook's a little green patch. Or a place where someone can buy you as a pet.
- Christine Cavalier
Did you tell them it's where they let the asylum inmates play?
- Todd Jordan
BTW, most college kids are pretty unaware of social networking. My husband is an undergraduate advisor. They concentrate on texting, mostly. The middle-to-upper class white kids know FaceBook, but that's about it. I wouldn't call 21-25 year olds digital natives. The ''true" digital natives are about 3 years old or younger right now. Corvida, I would guess that many more of your peers will come to ask you this in the coming months.
- Christine Cavalier
wow, that beats some of my friends - they know what it is, but don't see the point!
- Sarah Perez
LinkedIn is for when you have a career (and are establishing a professional network). Incoming freshman may not know facebook, but most do by the time October runs around. In terms of "digital native", the way I think of it is that the digital natives are those who don't understand the concept of a tv show being on at a specific day and time. My 9-y-o daughter has always known Tivo, whereas I used a 300 baud modem in my first job out of school
- Barry Graubart
from twhirl
Spent some quality time with my 18-year-old brother last week (who I hadn't seen in a couple of years) and was entertained by his lack of interest in the "new cool stuff" on the web. He has a MySpace account but hasn't updated it in forever. Doesn't really use email much or even IM. If he does anything on the web it's Facebook. He is in constant communication with his friends via texting though. I think his generation is more interested in being connected while mobile than anything else.
- Her Lindsay-ness
I have a few friends of comparable age (43) using Facebook and/or MySpace, and maybe three or four on LinkedIn. None--none!--use FF, Twitter, or anything else like that. My daughter's friends are on Facebook, but like everyone else who's posted, texting is the thing for them.
- Steve Lowe
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i find it interesting that under our right wing administration, we are being led down the path of socialism http://bit.ly/3Efeha
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Here, "like" isn't the right FF descriptor. Rather "duly noted and steaming mad".
- JonathanJoseph
Yes I've noticed that as well. That's why it doesn't matter who wins this election, we'll keep going that way.
- Kevin L
kleptocrats - bailing out private sector with tax dollars
- Bill Seitz
Fred - it's only socialism when you're sharing with the proletariat. When you're using government to share the wealth with your friends it's just compassionate conservatism...
- Barry Graubart
from twhirl
This Entitlement of Free Needs to Go Away ( http://mashable.com/2008... )
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Yes. At some point this will have to change. Not necessarily go away. Premium service models are always a good place to start. However, you need to offer some level of FREE in order to get users engaged and invested. :)
- Miguel23
I like microtransactions, as opposed to a full blown subscription model.
- Charles Ju
i have to concur, i should only pay when i'm fully engaged, although that doesn't help with reliable revenue flows for any of these companies
- Jeff Woelker
from twhirl
[Looks into crystal ball] I predict an ad slowdown from the recession will push content providers back to a Pay for Premium model. Which would be fine by me. I don't mind paying for services.
- Sprague D
The freemium model works but only for products where there is a real value proposition for the premium version. Flickr is a good example, where lots of us have paid to upgrade because we wanted more photo albums, etc. But it's really hard to do with services like Twitter, where heavy users use the same capabilities, just in higher volume. Sure, you could charge for the ability to follow...
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- Barry Graubart
from twhirl
Interesting article. I have worked for two different companies that embraced the walled garden and both those companies 'went free' to compete. It was also interesting that although those companies had subscriber fees, they also had ads.
- gregory
I'm someone who benefits from all of these great web services and wouldn't mind if I had to pay for some of them, (like Flickr before I paid for it) wanted me to host my own content. I have tons of web space that I'm not even using. I think I'm drifting from the point, sorry. The point is that I don't like monthly subscriptions but I'm happy paying for Flickr and Quicktime Pro. I don't mind microtransactions either. I'd probably pay for a big set of Friendfeed filter and thread management tools too.
- sergiooo
I remember writing on this topic a while ago...ah, here it is http://franticindustries.com/2007... ...and yeah, good article. Not an easy topic, though.
- Stan Schroeder
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Are bloggers citizen journalists or paid promoters?
- Nancy Stall
Coke crossed the line when they gave them special home pages, etc. At that point, it's an ad and I think that ads should be labeled as such. If you want to give out product in hopes of getting good reviews, that's fine. But if you pay bloggers or coach them on what to write, that's over the line imo. From the blogger perspective, all you ahve is your credibiity. So, I tend to disclose any potential conflict of interest. If you sell your credibility for some shwag you've got nothing left.
- Barry Graubart
from twhirl
@Nancy Stall "Blogger" is such a broad term, it really depends on whether the individual considers themself a "citizen journalist," or "paid promoter," or "just writing about their life online." All the same, no matter what their classification, WOM works best with a relationship.
- Andrea Mercado
What a launch yesterday for bit.ly. Never seen anything like it. People really love the service. Now we have to fill the pipe w/new goodies.
Brandon Wood, David Gutelius, Robert and 8 other people liked this
Bit.ly needs to auto-copy the URL to my clipboard, like tinyurl does. Time/hassle saver. My quick test of it didn't do that. ;)
- Kevin Hessel
we need an extension for Twhirl to do the conversion to the proper URL type.
- Greg
Congrats. So far I'm liking what you guys have put together. Hope it only gets better from here on out.
- Scott Jarkoff
Yes Twhirl integration, please!!
- Robert Couture
Congrats, buys. You triggered a land rush for bit.ly namespaces :) I second (or third) the Twhirl integration if Loic is reading.
- Barry Graubart
from twhirl
Why Newspapers Must Embrace RSS - Seeking Alpha - http://seekingalpha.com/article...
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- Barry Graubart
If I see one more article calling my generation dumb & saying I don't read. I READ ARTICLES ALL DAY LONG & finish a new book every 2 weeks!
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You go GIRL! I like hearing this. Keep on reading and definitely keep on writing. Way to express yourself!!!
- James
Corvida!! ; )
- Erhan Erdogan
Reading generation... I like that! I think we must also learn to improve our reading filters though
- Alex Popescu
from feedalizr
I don't think reading is the challenge for this generation; the bigger challenge will be focus. This is the first generation that's growing up multi-tasking all day long. So, the challenge will be to see if, as this generation turns into technology, political and business leaders, will they be able to focus 100% on critical issues? How will their decision making be different from that in the past?
- Barry Graubart
I'm mixed on this, I feel like some in our generation consume much more written material, while a large portion out there don't read at all, but I imagine may have been the same with previous generations too
- craig
On average - the people I know between 18-28 read a ton more than the people ages 28-38. In response to Barry - I think this younger generation will actually be able to focus more on the issues at hand than others because they are taught to be multi-faceted from the get go. True, there are "focus" issues in a micro sense - but I think on a whole you'll see a generation that understands the nuances involved in the big picture a lot more than the specialized generations before them. Then again, I'm biased.
- George Smith
Who would be the logical running mates for Obama and McCain?
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Mini Me????
- Roberto Bonini
Hillary Clinton makes the most sense for Obama. Not sure with McCain
- Christian Burns
Clinton or Edwards for Obama, each would help to guarantee certain voter blocs. For McCain, Huckabee would help to secure the evangelical vote, Romney would aid in securing the moderate vote.
- Greg Hollingsworth
from twhirl
I think Richardson for Obama and Romney for McCain. I bet Romney is kicking himself for dropping out so early. McCain did absolutely nothing with his giant head start.
- Shawn Farner
Shawn. I would like to kick Romney. I thought he would be a better candidate than McCain.
- Michael Tefft
Gore for Obama....
- Craig Thomler
I think each needs to make a bold move to shore up independents. For Obama, that might be R Neb Sen Chuck Hagel; fallback could be VA Sen Jim Webb. For McCain, it could be Lieberman, though he doesn't bring the vibrancy you'd want (and has lost a lot of credibility this year). Mitt is the obvious safe choice as someone who understands the economy and could help in western states (CO, UT, ID) but would not be a bold choice. Hillary or any "old style Dem" would undercut Obama's message of political change.
- Barry Graubart
I think Obama has lots of good choices, with VA's Webb being one of them. I think if Obama wins either OH or VA, he'll win the election. For McCain, I predicted 4 years ago that he's run with Lieberman, but that would mean a double-Droopy like boring ticket. So to make it interesting for McCain, I'll just punt and say A-Rod or Madonna.
- Mike Reynolds
If Obama can get Colin Powell, he's in
- Ryan Underdown
Obama and Hillary are natural choice; but Obama and Al Gore could make an interesing pair. McCain could make the race really interesting if he could convince Condoleeza Rice to be VP.
- Shaun Connolly
too much backlash for Obama to choose Hillary and he's in big trouble (come first debat) on his foreign policy stance, so I think he needs to go with a VP with military background or strong international ties. McCain's requirement is to go young and actually probably go more right wing than he is - lock down the bible belt.
- John OBrien
Jeremiah, just wrote a post on this - http://www.webmetricsguru.com/2008... It's clear to me Hillary would be Barack's best choice, more for the people are are not so internet connected - with Obama didn't reach as well. For McCain.... my guess he'll go for a Colin Powell or maybe Jeb Bush (just a wild guess, here).
- Marshall Sponder
I disagree on an Obama/Powell ticket. It will be hard enough for the country to put it head around one black canidate. I have always thought a McCain/Rice ticket would be his best pick. My problem is I don't really like either canidate this election.
- Grant Griffiths
from twhirl
I think it is too early to tell for either. McCain is stuck in a hard place b/c any move to try and minimize dmg amoung base R's risks alienating independents and vise versa. Obama seems to be exprcng a similar struggle to a much lesser degree. As things solidify over the next couple of months and it becomes clear which states are truly in play the logical choices will become easier to see.
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Not sure yet for Obama, for McCain I vote the Church Lady form SNL skits. :)
- Summer
Althought I seriously doubt he would run I've always thought Colin Powell would be a great running mate for McCain, not sure about Obama.
- Nick Dominguez
Obama will have his pick ready for the convention. I think whether he picks Hillary will depend on the convention. Will the delegates insist and will the convention be a blood bath? The Dem convention will be interesting to say the least. If anything he is going to have to pick someone closer to the middle than he is. Of course that won't be hard.
- Grant Griffiths
from twhirl
Think about this one. McCain/Clinton ticket. Why not. She grew up republican and she may just be pissed off enough at the Dems for not giving her what she felt she was entitled to. McCain/Powell would never fly. Two military veterns on the same ticket. The left would eat that one for lunch. Again I am a bit indifferent this election.
- Grant Griffiths
from twhirl
McCain would NEVER choose Hillary. The entire republican base wouldn't even vote if that were the case. McCain/Powell would be interesting. Obama def. has to chose someone more moderate (yes, not hard to do) cause his record is going to be called into question sooner or later, and his record suggests he's more liberal than Ted Kennedy.
- John OBrien
Obama/Gen. Wesley Clark, McCain/Chris Rock :P
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Of course I didn't say McCain would pick Hillary. But it would be fun to see how the country would react to that one. I just don't see McCain/Powell as a viable choice. McCain/Rice makes more sense to me. But that would connect him to Bush and that is not something his advisors will allow him to do. If I had to make the call right now on who McCain would pick, I would say either the...
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- Grant Griffiths
from twhirl
MCCain and Andy Rooney
- Fred Grott
Condi Rice would be a great VP, but she resisted the effort to get her to run for Pres. many of us tried to convince her to run but she is to smart to run for President.
- Robert Hafer
I agree Condi would be great - in fact I think it should almost be a requirement to be involved in the state department before running for president/vice president. I know people in the state department and they are a hell of a lot smarter and diplomatic than govenors who came to power via a ton of money and congressmen/women who vote based on party and how it'll look in the long run.
- John OBrien
I have been a fan of Condi Rice since for sometime. She has always been my choice for McCain's VP. Hell, she was my choice for President this time too.
- Grant Griffiths
from twhirl
Lieberman has already said we wouldn't accept a McCain offer, I don't think McCain/Rice will happen as McCain tries to avoid a Bush 2.0 label. Powell is a huge wildcard, I don't think he'd switch to Obama but after Obama's Iraq flip-flop I think it's at least somewhat possible, and Powell can't be happy with the Rep. party right now but McCain might be exempt from that.
- David Knight
Condi Rice? Could someone give specifics as to why she would be a good VP based on her experience as NSA and Secretary of State. Am I wrong, but she was a contributor to a botched war and as SoS hasn't been effective.
- AJ Kohn
I'm with AJ. Condi will fuel every Democratic argument that McCain is running for Bush's third term, particularly when it comes to foreign policy. At least Powell openly regrets his role in the push for war -- but he wouldn't exactly be a great running mate for McCain when he'll probably pull the lever for Obama in November.
- Kevin Hessel
As for Obama, Clark blew himself up with his McCain comments (and appropriately so, but he pulled himself out of contention), Webb doesn't want it, Hillary is a terrible choice (she's the liberal Bush when it comes to divisiveness and brings along Bill(bo) Baggage) and Edwards is a proven loser. I'm still leaning toward Sebelius. Pro-choice, female Democratic governor in one of the nation's reddest states.
- Kevin Hessel
I wouldn't say she's been ineffective as SoS at all...just not been in the news much (like the whole bush administration). I think a lot of people obviously want all aspects of bush administration gone, but I think Condi is a bright spot and would be good for the transition if McCain were elected and she was VP.
- John OBrien
@John: I'm open to hearing what Condi has done well as SoS, but I can't find a bright spot. How about a top five accomplishments as SoS?
- AJ Kohn
Looks like there's an on-going guerrilla battle going on between Fox News' PR machine and reporters: http://tinyurl.com/6cfexj
More like a battle between Fox and reality; using photoshop to alter head shots of reporters you don't like. How mature. Wanna wager on whether they darken Obama's skin tone in certain markets as we get closer to election day?
- Barry Graubart
from twhirl
Off to Napa Valley, any tips? - http://www.seesmic.com/video...
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Go to eat at a french bistro in the middle of Yountville, very good wine and steaks. Pretty close to french quality.
- fbrunel
Domaine Chandon in St. Helena. Enjoy some sparkling wine on the back patio.
- Mike Doeff
Mustards in Napa is pretty good. If you make it to Sonoma, try the Girl and the Fig
- Tim FitzGerald
Restaurant Cuvee (nice courtyard), Zuzu (tapas), Angele (bistro w/terrace), Cole's Chop House (best steak in town), Annalien (Vietnamese) all popular local Napa venues.Terra, St Helena.
- Dave Martin
vineyard-wise there are two I would not miss - Clos Pegase (for the artwork as well as the wine) and, if you can make time to get to Sonoma, I'd swing by Matanzas Creek (gorgeous lavender if its not too late in the season). Enjoy.
- Barry Graubart
from twhirl
I second the "Girl and the Fig" recommendation.
- Tom Landini
thank you all for your recommendations!
- Loic Le Meur
Go to Bouchon, the pomme frites are a must have.
- Jerry Schuman
French Laundry (3 stars Michelin) for Loic by Thomas Keller...considered one of best chefs in country.
- Pokai
but you can only make a reservation for French Laundry exactly 3 months to the day you want to go in advance. On the phone. Only.
- edythe
Going in a few weeks....please pass on what you learn
- Erin @queenofspain
French Laundry was booked :(
- Loic Le Meur
It's Bistro Jeanty (http://www.bistrojeanty.com/), the one I was talking about. Very good.
- fbrunel
Loic, I would have been very impressed if you had gotten a table at FL as a walk-in. edythe wasn't joking about booking 3 months in advance.
- Mike Doeff
Mike, agreed, I told them I had thousand of friends on Friendfeed but they still did not want to let me in ;) @fbrunel I booked at bistrojeanty and will report.
- Loic Le Meur
we live in Napa - here's our A+ list: Bouchon in Yountville! also Wappo in Calistoga, and the restaurant at the Culinary Institute of course -- all great! Mustards, yes but not Zuzu imho -- and in Napa downtown - Angele, Ubuntu, Julia's Kitchen, the Oxbow Wine Merchant (great cheeses too) & Pizza Azzuro. Be sure to go to the Vitner's Collective in Napa for GREAT wines -->http://www.vintnerscollective.com/ -- and definitely do some of the Silverado side of the valley for wine tasting.
- Jeff Evans
I got into FL on one day's notice, for brunch. They put me on a wait list then called two hours prior to tell me I was "in." Had made other plans, so I turned them down. You could hear the shock in the voice on the other end of the line. Talk about satisfaction. Really, it's time to get over this elite meet and greet stuff, people. They are yanking your chains.
- Mary Trigiani
Food at this level is an art...w/ high quality ingredients and staff. To understand the difference between the time and cost to make food at this level vs. $10 entrees is to understand life.
- Pokai
A photo of my meal at Bistro Jeanty for those interested — http://flickr.com/photos... — filet au poivre avec St Clement. :) Very good, I recommend.
- fbrunel
i'm hungry now.... :(
- Pokai
:)
- fbrunel
In France we would say that if you're not talking during lunch (or diner) it means it's good! Since Loic hasn't tweet for a while, I assume he's enjoying his meal. :)
- fbrunel
I had the best steak au poivre EVER. Now tarte tatin.
- Loic Le Meur
okay I think I am going to book to Bouchon tonight, two french in a row in Napa :)
- Loic Le Meur
went to Angele and was very disappointed. Average food, small quantities, the terrace is nice but the food and service quite low. Bistrojeanty was 9.5/10 Angele was 5/10.
- Loic Le Meur
you can get into French Laundry within a couple of days. we got a res for Thursday night with 2 days notice. Just call and get on the waitlist. They called back in 20 minutes with an 8pm res on a holiday weekend. you just have to know how to do it.
- mary
thanks Mary, will try for next time
- Loic Le Meur
Yeah, I was at the Copia Institute last year for a conference and it's really nice over there. Also, I've wanted to take the Wine Train around Napa Valley - it seems to me that's one thing to do if your in Napa, but that's just me ... and I only get out your way about twice a year.
- Marshall Sponder
Excuse moi Loïc, sit tu si Loudtwitter fonctionne toujours ? Merci ;)
- Jean-Marie Gall
from twhirl
Want a Twitter app with Summize integration, replies, Tweets, and groups in one desktop window? Check out http://www.tweetdeck.com/beta/
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I would like a twitter app that would make twitter work :)
- (jeff)isageek
I want a twitter that works :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Tweetdeck is very nice. Breaking tweets out into @ replies and groups makes sense. Pretty, too.
- Leo Laporte
Excellent! I'm just not that into all the dark gray.
- kennbell
'scuse me while i wipe up this drool, but that looks hot!
- Sarah Perez
This is very nice. Love the grouping feature. Makes it a lot easier to follow tweets.
- Dave Rutter
ok, see that got all screwed up just now, had to delete & start over.
- TheMacMommy
from twhirl
so what I meant to say was, I like tweetdeck for trying to improve on apps like twirl or twitterific for that matter, but I'd still love to see some über combination of tweetdeck & twirl that lets you group, customize color in UI, post using ping.fm and receive more than just tweets like FF does - not so much a firehose but more like a spiffy detachable shower head w/the different dial settings. Come to Mamma!
- TheMacMommy
from twhirl
Checking it out now, thanks Louis!
- Daniel Smith
from twhirl
I like it Louis - thanks for the tip .. even though there are acouple of things I would probably like as options it is very workable in the short time I have been using it
- Steven Hodson
I really like this so far, it'll be interesting to see what future plans holds. I'd like to see a tad more customization of the client itself. Nice so far though.
- Nick
Nice that you can keep twittering even when Twitter is down. Categories/groups/tags is clearly a direction Twitter user needs are heading. Also need an app, though, that can handle multiple Twitter accounts. I tried Twhirl but after a while kept getting timeouts on the 2nd open account. Maybe that's Twitter's fault, not Twhirl's.
- Gordon Vaughan
I still wonder why all of these apps default with a dark background.
- Caleb Elston
Just saw it with my 9-y-o daughter. Animation was amazing and it was visually attractive. Story was cute, but not great. I think that Monsters Inc., the Incredibles and even Toy Story had better writing. Most interesting thing to me was that more than half the people in the theater were adults with no children. Definitely a bit of a geeky crowd, different than you might expect for a Disney/Pixar flick. All that said, Nice. Now all I need is a blackberry version (that also handles friendfeed) :)
- Barry Graubart
from twhirl
Using it .. nice. Try clicking on the photo. Looks like most of us need to go higher rez!
- Charlie Anzman
pretty slick...just not picking up all my twitter friends though for some reason.
- Zee.
Very nice and still very-very buggy (Air Linux)
- Czar
Ok, another ugly black twitter client. I want an Air app with some brushed metal feel to it. Having something on my desktop that doesnt match the rest of the windows makes me feel like Im on windows.
- Colby Olson
I would rather pay for Flickr than put my photos on Facebook to be fodder for advertisers.
- Andrew Feinberg
Are there any other Twitter services/apps with the Grouping functionality? Really loving that.
- Bryan Landers
looks excellent. love the "maximized view" for real twitter addicts. though I can't imagine there are many left that are addicted, since, well, you know. can't really be addicted to twitter when it's down all the time
- Mark Bao
Thanks! I'll check it out over the next few days!
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
This is lovely. Funny how some really nice apps sneak up on you. Thanks for linking!
- mark.kemperman
from feedalizr
nice but I doubt it fits the workflow now that twitter is a tiny bit of it
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
thanks Louis, very cool app, what do you think of the group service?
- John Cass
from Alert Thingy
I like the group service, but I love the Summize integration more. I've watched my search for TweetDeck just blow up today, and the app hasn't crashed once or locked up - which is saying something despite the fact it's been open all day.
- Louis Gray
Has any product as prominent as Twitter fallen apart as publicly and as quickly, yet retained its users?
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Maybe Michael Jackson?! : )
- Erhan Erdogan
The roads in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
- Geoff Schultz
windows? :p
- felix
The US Government.
- Eric Schlissel
from twhirl
Secondlife?
- Taylor
The early days of the WELL. http://www.wired.com/wired...
- Phil Gomes
Any US Airline?
- Stephen Terlizzi
new coke
- Allen Stern
US Government? :)
- Fred Grott
Possibly. And other clones have come along. But with identi.ca I have *never* seen such a rush of Twitter faithful to a new clone. We. Are. Frustrated. ;-(
- Barbara K. Baker
the oil industry
- Rafael Robayna
Oh good one Rafael
- Geoff Schultz
Very nice, Stephen T!
- felix
Livejournal was just as slow and unreliable a number of years ago as Twitter is today.
- Morton Fox
The Intelligence Community (CIA, NSA and other TLAs)
- Barry Graubart
from twhirl
More importantly, can identi.ca implement features quick enough to capitalize.
- Rob Diana
@Erhan omg, that's funny
- Sarah Perez
Probably GM, starting in the 1970s. Or even maybe Ford or Chrysler. People have severe brand loyalty.
- Mark Trapp
I'm with @felix
- MG Siegler
Yes, eBay and AOL
- Steve Rubel
myspace
- sean percival
+1 for felix
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
myspace had rather severe growing pains as well, though those seem to have been resolved.
- DGentry
no
- Duncan Riley
NOooooooooooooo! twitter is special! a 1st in web 2.0
- Susan Beebe
Still my favorite drug. What can I say?
- Chris Brogan
The Boyfriend?
- Kelby
Friendster, Louis.
- l0ckergn0me
Windows XP?
- Rom Feria
they might fall apart but its where everyone built their networks, no way to export all the friends, the conversations. you can emulate some of the more active relationships when you move to a new network but the piecemeal people get left behind. twitter is special
- Paul Rj Muller
from twhirl
Yes Friendster indeed ... and MySpace swept in and cleaned up the pieces, just as FriendFeed looks poised to do ...
- Mark Jeffrey
Windows?
- Harry Myhre
twitter shouldn't be sacraficed before it gets its second wind. I think the team at obvious has some tricks up their collective sleeve.
- GlennIsaac
My Twitter never dies!
- Igor Poltavskiy
How about MSN, but comparing the US to the rest of the world...we're the only ones that still use AIM.
- Philip Ryan Johnson
Democracy
- Cait
Microsoft Vista???
- Roberto Bonini
Haha. Michael Jackson. Indeed.
- tallglassofmilk
friendster
- Philip Ryan Johnson
Fast Company: 6 Jobs that will be extinct in 2016. Number Six? "BLOGGERS" quick no one tell @scobleizer http://www.fastcompany.com/multime... shhh! ;)
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Bloggers willl be just writers. They always were. It's a platform.
- Francine Hardaway
I humbly suggest that editors who force me to click on seven different pages to read an article SHOULD be extinct.
- Mack D. Male
Blogging is already extinct.
- Robert Scoble
He'll be retired by then.
- Cem Catikkas
No more software engineers in 2016? Are these guys on crack?
- Gavin
@Gavin, even more hilarious -- no auto mechanics in 8 years because cars "run on software". So why are people moaning about the price of gas? Stick a floppy in the tank!
- Sprague D
1999 called, they want their horrible navigation back. FC really needs to improve the usability of their site.
- Devlin Dunsmore
from twhirl
concur with Devlin, awful navigation. Ironic though that FC is criticizing bloggers for making snarky comments when the commentary they are making is snarky itself
- Duncan Riley
Blogging is a 'job'? Who knew... :) RT http://tinyurl.com/52ss4v
- Rotkäpchen
Fitting that Scoble gets to captain the Titanic once again. He's probably seeing this on his IPhone at the helm...
- Mark Forman
Rokapchen Blogging is only a job if you get paid...so I hear. ;)
- Jeremiah Owyang
Would Scoble blog if on the Titantic?
- Fred Grott
I thought blogs died 2 years ago or something. read that on a blog somewhere.
- David Wescott
This is getting ridiculous.
- Shawn Farner
from twhirl
I think there's a difference btw blogs dying and having the title blogger. blogging is already integrated into so many different job functions. Who knows, in 2016 the term blogger could be extinct because it will be synonamous with reporter, or marketer, or CEO...
- Adam
I blog for my a particular constituency of my company's market; just started doing it, someone had to
- Shannon
There will always be jobs for people who author content, though the title "Blogger" may be subsumed into various roles. Truly professional bloggers (no, not really an oxymoron) may simply be thought of as writers, analysts or journalists, while the rest of us will remain the amateur pundits we are today.
- Barry Graubart
I've never been paid for it, but plenty of paying jobs have come out of it.
- Rick Grant
I think the future holds more jobs to become remote, then corporate, we're already seeing this, and it saves corporation tons of money, including the employee...example > employee travel w/ this gas situation
- petes2cents.com
My blogging and social networking participation doesn't appear in my job description, yet it has absolutely contributed to the success of my business. I spend an hour a day on it, and the payback is more than any other hour of the day in terms of direct/indirect contact with my customers.
- Ed Brill
I just got the VP at my company into blogging and he's hooked. He's getting feedback from customer's in the form of comments and is gaining leads from search results. I don't think blogging will die in eight years.
- Shawn Farner
from twhirl
Content creation will always exist and connecting with community never stops. I blog because I want to and its had big benefits on my visibility inside and outside of the company.
- Alex
You can have blogging as a job?
- Dave Peck
lol @ Britney
- Shawn Farner
from twhirl
even more hilarious -- no auto mechanics in 8 years because cars "run on software". So why are people moaning about the price of gas? Stick a floppy in the tank! -----I can't keep laughing! :P
- Jia Liu
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