Our special guest on this week’s podcast is Cody Brown. Show notes to come sooon, in the meantime, here’s the podcast. reboot09Nov02.mp3 (audio/mpeg, 10.3MB) Monday, November 2, 2009.
My major agenda items for today's podcast are three: 1.) Twitter, Google Microsoft, real time search and all the implications therein, as discussed in Dave's post, Is Google/Microsoft/Twitter in the news business? http://www.scripting.com/stories...
- Jay Rosen
2. Journalism School and what it should be, could be, is becoming. I want to talk about my new graduate program, Studio 20, and Jeff's own take on entrepreneurial J-school at CUNY.
- Jay Rosen
3. If there is time, we can talk about collaboration across news organizations, which is finally starting to emerge full force. In Madison: http://atnmadison.org/ and nationally with Mother Jones and a bunch of national magazines coming together around the climate change story. http://adage.com/mediawo...
- Jay Rosen
What about the NYT piece on innovation? I thought you asked a good question about that. "Only steal from the best" is my motto. :-)
- Dave Winer
Also do you guys have any advice for me re what I should talk about in my 10 minutes at #140conf?
- Dave Winer
which piece on innovation did you mean? probably it was this Tweet: Notice how no one says, "wait a minute, are these people *qualified* to be professional innovators?" http://jr.ly/9nhi NYT: Twitter Serves Up Ideas From Its Followers http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
- Jay Rosen
Sadly, Dave's father did the night before. He had to return to New York to attend to family matters. So Jay did the show on his own with a live audience of 35 people. He decided to ask anyone who raised his or her hand to describe "an element of the rebooted system of news," and that became Rebooting the News #27.
- Jay Rosen
Condolences to Dave on the loss of his father. (His post is http://www.scripting.com/stories... ) Special thanks to Zack Seward of Nieman Lab who handled the mic, and to Greg Linch who videotaped the session.
- Jay Rosen
The following people can be heard on the show, which runs 65 minutes:
- Jay Rosen
* Burt Herman, former John S. Knight fellow, Standford University * Daniel Bachhuber, executive director, CoPress * Vindu Goel, deputy technology editor, New York Times * Rachel Elson, managing editor, CBS MoneyWatch * Russ Walker, executive editor, Grist
- Jay Rosen
Andrew Lih, visiting professor, University of Southern California * Alfred Hermida, assistant professor, University of British Columbia * Danny Dougherty, senior association/web and graphics editor Stateline * Kurt Cagle, managing editor, XML.com * Chris Tolles, CEO, Topix
- Jay Rosen
* Matt Thompson, interim online community manager, Knight Foundation * Giles Wilson, BBC online * Ryan Sholin, director of news innovation, Publish2 * Noah Sloss, communications manager, Commonweal Institute
- Jay Rosen
* Noah Sloss, communications manager, Commonweal Institute * Margaret Rosas, founder and chief strategist, Quiddities * Zach Seward, assistant editor, Nieman Journalism Lab * Mason Lee, CEO, Borange * Jere Hester, director, NYCity News Service, CUNY Graduate School of Journalism
- Jay Rosen
For those interested in the video, there have been audio syncing problems due to speed differences in the video and audio recordings (done separately for various reasons). I'll post the link here when it's ready.
- Greg Linch
There will be a live, in-person, face-to-face (audience participation included) Rebooting the News with Jay Rosen, Saturday Oct. 3 at the Hilton San Francisco 4:00 pm, in the Union Square 15 & 16 room and YOU're invited. The room holds about 40. Dave Winer's dad died last night so he won't be there. I will be and others rebooting the news will be.
The we are in is called Union Square 15 & 16. It's on the 4th floor of Tower Three at the Hilton. If you're a journalist, or a start-up, or just someone with new media dreams, you are welcome. You don't have to be a member of Online News Association or an official participant in the conference, just come.
- Jay Rosen
Dave and I paid for the room ourselves, so that's why we can say that without fear of contradiction. Address: 333 O'Farrell Street, San Francisco, California, United States 94102 Tel: 1-415-771-1400 http://www1.hilton.com/en_US...
- Jay Rosen
I'll bet that's the Hilton on O'Farrell. Wish I could get down there (3 hours away). Your timing makes it tempting.
- USelaine
Thank you Jay, I'm planning on attending.
- Peter Mullen
Here's the show page where you can listen-live as the show is recorded, at 9AM Pacific. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Rebooti... We can use FriendFeed as a chatroom, if you like...
Using FF as a chatroom. I've seen it done for other podcasts and am interested in trying it for RTN. I'll watch this thread during the show. No guarantee that your comments will get in the flow of conversation, but I'll be here to discuss, esp since I won't be talking much this week (yeah right). :-)
- Dave Winer
Awesome. It'll give us a chance to get some "realtime" feedback. :-)
- Dave Winer
love your show - the way you two chat and bounce ideas of each other really works well and it is very thought-provoking. One very tiny request... any chance you could invest in a new/better microphone? You sound like you are talking through your socks...
- Ben Rooney
Ben, we're using telephones. That's as good as it gets.
- Dave Winer
Odd, works great for Leo on every TWiT network show with up to 4 guests!
- Mark
I know Leo Laporte has some amazing hi-tech set up (his fabled Skype-o-saurus), so that is probably outside what you want to shell out. I don't want to sound like I am whinging - I think it is a great show.
- Ben Rooney
Is Gina Trapani's Twitalytics the first manifestation of a distributed Twitter?
- Ben Rooney
But wouldn't an IPO open them to the same pressures that big corporate-owned news orgs face? That hasn't worked out too well, I think. One extreme example: Knight-Ridder.
- Greg Linch
I guess I'm too late with this link, but am interested to hear thoughts on this, "A Costly Mistake?" in AJR from April/May 2009 http://www.ajr.org/Article...
- Greg Linch
Twitter should let you tag your profile like Aardvark does for topics to ask you about.
- Greg Linch
Paul Eedle ran something like this daily updating news slug plus updating backgrounder in a site called Out There News - waaaaay back in about 2001 or so
- Ben Rooney
"You can see real reporters dealing with a true breaking story not just a simulation of a breaking story, let their hair down and share everything they know with the world. This is the impulse of news, it's not about hiding things until they're ready, but when you know something for a fact, you want it out there as quickly as possible. And as long as something is clearly labeled as speculation it's every bit as true as a fully vetted fact."
- Dave Winer
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