"As Facebook continues to roll out the full version of its new user profiles, it’s becoming clear that their primary goal isn’t, as they said in May, to simply create a cleaner user experience and allow developers to have more meaningful engagement points with users. It’s more about highlighting new content relevant to the user and fostering conversations about that content. And the result is that the Facebook home page looks an awful lot like the exponentially smaller activity stream aggregation service called Friendfeed."
- Louis Gray
from Bookmarklet
there is ONE thing Facebook cannot replicate from Friendfeed. Speed of execution. FriendFeed will always be better and will always be one step ahead
- Ouriel Ohayon
That would be the site with 60m monthly visitors Fred.
- Jamie
Coming from the other side, I’d like to see the Facebookization of Friendfeed (without sucking that is). FF is a great place for content and discussion, but not so much for community and social networking.
- Hao Chen
Facebook's largely self-contained, immersive "social" and "fun" walled garden works especially well for interpersonal relations, and the upcoming facelift improves on those same principles. I'm impressed. That said, it's too heavyweight for active group conversations. FF has far and away the most effective implementation of group discussions, especially around "the rest of the web". It's great to have both FB and FF, each optimized around their use cases.
- Amir Gharaat
The only thing I'm sure of is that Facebook will be unable to recommend the same 9 persons to add as friends to everyone - so hopefully we will still be able to choose exactly who we want to talk to.
- Svetlana Gladkova
Friendfeed = open; facebook = closed; this would be an area i'd be happy to see facebook copy
- Alex Gawley
@Thomas, LOL... I always crack up when I see, in any FB thread your "Facebook is boring".
- Juan Pablo González
Friendfeed lays it all out as a stream of posts and comments. It's like reading a newspaper. Just my style.
- david
Facebook has lost its mojo really fast, I winder if the same will happen to FriendFeed
- João Almeida
from twhirl
@Joao lost its mojo with who? The twittersphere? Facebook was doing just fine before and after they jumped on and off the bandwagon. According to FB, UUs and engagement are up every month.
- Jamie
Almeida: yeah, Facebook is growing as fast as ever and tons of "normal people" swear by it. Just because us early-adopter-inside-the-techie-bubble are over here playing on FriendFeed, don't assume that everyone else is. 110 million are on Facebook, maybe more by now. When I went to Israel all I heard was "Facebook, Facebook, Facebook." Same with my niece and lots of others here in Silicon Valley. Also, its event calendar brings tons more people than others.
- Robert Scoble
Typical conversation with Real World Friends: "So I saw this post on Friend Feed..." "What's that?" "It's this website where it aggregates everything you do on various social networks" "Social Networks? Like..." "Flickr, Twitter, Yelp..." (Blank Stares) "Websites like Facebook are social.." "OHHH FACEBOOK.. That's the best site ever. *blah blah blah"
- George Smith
Alex Gawley: Seems that Facebook no longer will be closed. "This week facebook will also launch their Facebook Connect product, which is designed to let users get that data back out of Facebook." http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
- Alex Sauceda
but do you think the average FB user is going to use the "comment on news feed" feature? a quick scan of some of my heavy-user FB friends last week showed no comments on any news feed items, and then a couple days ago i noticed someone's status message was "I hate all these comment tags on facebook now"...
- Trent Olson
I love FF but all my non geeks friends and family are on Facebook. Seems that it works better for them.
- Alex Sauceda
Keep in mind, that 18 months ago you could not have had this conversation with anyone who was not 1) in the SV echo chamber or 2) in college. Web services start small and some inflect to a larger community and some don't.
- Christopher Sacca
My friends on FB go to Flickr for conversation. None of them are on FF. I add FF contacts in FB to view their bios.
- Russellreno
Louis - Agreed but I think the reason is more that they're trying to do an even better job with targeted ads (to keep the price in check) ... ala GMail. I find my Facebook list growing from my activity on Friendfeed. Hmm
- Charlie Anzman
Was the FriendFeed mini-feed on Facebook axed: no summary, just a note showing something was added? It's doing that for Feedheads too. Is this happening with others folks?
- Blake N. Cooper
Jim: Thanks! Does that mean that my friends would need to change this on their end to see more than 1 line? I have a lot of my friends who will stick to the default (i.e. will be overwhelmed by process for changing) and most likely will not see the content of my Google Reader Shared Items and FriendFeed activity. Sucks if that's the case. Thanks again.
- Blake N. Cooper
Jim: Is that option retaining the setting - I have it set to one line, short and full, but the new items still seem to default to one line.
- Richard Peat
Funny how one year later we are actually seeing the Facebookization of Friendfeed...
- Jean-Marc Liotier
wah!? The timing would be interesting for me because I just had a big "discussion" with a friend last week about how I won't join Facebook because it's not open like FriendFeed.
- Ben Reierson
Not giving hits to the Techcrunch asshole, will wait for a responsible media outlet to cover
- Gabriel
Well considering FriendFeed had investment rounds aroung $5m (If I remember correctly) a 20x return would put it around 100m, so that would be a good guess.
- mikepk
This is horrible news.... I can't believe they'd do this
- Matthew DeVries
Maybe I don't know enough about FF, but what is everyone so bummed about?
- Katie Wynne
^Exactly. The purchase in and of itself doesn't mean anything. Personally I'm happy, FB probably saved FF's ass financially speaking in the long run
- LANjackal
from IM
I think some think that it's a bad idea Tsega because FF represents a *vastly* superior content platform than Facebook and some might be concerned that Facebook would end up killing FF as we know it and trying to assimilate us all into their inferior product.
- Thomas Hawk
there was no "long run" to save FF from financially. It's Founders are loaded. They had the luxury of ample financial backing to run it for a long, long time. It will be interesting to see their reasoning on why they did this if in fact it is true.
- Thomas Hawk
For me, FF and FB have two separate purposes: FB is for communicating with my IRL friends and FF is for consuming and sharing content with everyone else, but then I've been on FB since it was select universities only, so maybe I have an outdated opinion of what FB is. They need to keep both products.
- James Myatt
Thomas: I see where you're coming from. To me though, if anything, this will make facebook a better product over all and hopefully FF will remain what it is with more FB integration.
- Tsega Dinka
once upon a time it was "don't be evil"..
- Cristian Conti
Seriously, Is this true? OMG this would be the worst thing ever!!! This is a joke RIGHT??!!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
chances are FF will be nuked. There's not much in it for Facebook to run two separate networks. The wording that Bret chose to use on the blog pretty much paints that case in my opinion. FF is worth so much more for it's potential than for it's users and I think Facebook wouldn't care if they lost 100% of the current users if they get unfettered access to implement the best tech ideas into their current product.
- Thomas Hawk
yeah, the phrase "for the time being" is a scary one.
- Ryan - @magicofpi
As in, "Friendfeed will continue to operate for the time being."
- Ryan - @magicofpi
The team will probably be locked into a 2 year employment with Facebook while their equity fully vests and then will end up jumping ship. This acquisition will likely make Facebook a little bit better, but we probably lose FF in the process which is too bad.
- Thomas Hawk
I was kinda hopin FriendFeed would open source some of their sauce but I guess now that's even less of a probability.
- matthew john ernisse
I don't have a good feeling about this. :-( Why have two services with so many overlaps. FF will be integrated into FB in the long term.
- Kol Tregaskes
Why is the worse company the ones in charge, that is where I'm just freakin baffled. Friendfeed is a better freakin product.....
- Matthew DeVries
gee, i step away from my desk for an hour and all heck breaks loose
- Imabug
you'd better delete any content (photos for instance) you posted in your feed that you don't want FB to own when they get their claws in.
- Joe Silence
When I look at how I used FB and how I use FF (which I am still new to) FBs purchase would actually suck in my world. I only use FB to keep up with my fam and friends and I don't do that very well because I loathe the interface. FF is fresh for a newer user like me. Adds a lot of value in terms of the knowledge sharing that goes on here. To think that this service would get sucked up by...
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- Michelle
Agree with many of the comments on here. I'm concerned Facebook will basically just take all of FriendFeed's great properties and fold it in the large kingdom that is Facebook. A great service, FriendFeed may just become FB's Twitter. (Funny, too, that we're mourning the potential demise of FriendFeed on FriendFeed. Kind of like the newspaper biz writing 1000s of articles about its own demise in its papers.
- Keith Trivitt
But all my extended family is on FaceBook! Where do I hide now?
- Ted Gilchrist
Keith - well, now we know what happens when Facebook gets jealous...
- Ryan - @magicofpi
I write software in my sleep during the busiest facets of my project; and they work in the morning
- RAPatton
RAP- done that myself once or twice :) Creepy.
- Roberto Bonini
Me too, but the software I write in my sleep usually just does stupid stuff that we don't really need. :)
- Tad
I don't know what's freakier, the fact that you write code in your sleep or the fact that you remember it when you wake up.
- Alex Scoble
I dreamed last night that I had to organize a meet up, based on #hashtags, and everyone had the wrong tags. Everyone ranting at me woke me up at 5am.
- Ian May
i was dreaming about new features in feedly last night...but they aren't there this morning.
- Trent Olson
Trent: if you share with us some of those dreams, we will try to look into making them reality :-) Have a great sunday!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
thanks Edwin! to be honest, they weren't very good anyway! you've already implemented my "exclude websites from using mini bar" idea, for which i'm hugely thankful...
- Trent Olson
Searching for something has led me past this post. Was going to press the "like" button and realized I already did. So this is my second "like".
- Sarah Peterman
This is definitely true for me. I sometimes think about programs I'm working on in my sleep too.
- Mike Child
T-Shirt & Travel Mug (in case we actually leave the house) Did it @ Cafe Press: Please note 1) I'm not an artist so I hope you like the organic nature of it. 2) I'm not looking to make any $ on this, any proceeds will be donated to my favorite charity http://guardsmen.org Here is the link: http://www.cafepress.com/kevinmu...
- Kevin Murray
I like having each service as an individual contact. Much easier. Can we see the same for Pownce?
- Chris Nixon
Well, IMified has taken bot to a next level.. I even created a customized option to check my google calendar appointments for today (a quick schedule for today) by interacting with bot! Not sure, if they have one for Pownce..
- Jigar Mehta
from bTT
One year later. Just bumping this because it's the one year anniversary of the only item on FriendFeed to get more than 400 likes. (452 at the moment)
- Ken Sheppardson
fuck'n hate Chuck, he totally lost ALL his credibility after his enorsement of that right-wing meatus Huckabee
- sofarsoShawn
i'll always admire mr norris because he was a student of bruce lee, and i know if mr lee was your teacher, good intentions are at heart ;/ Happy Birthday, Mr Norris
- chaz2b
Headset that will mimic all five senses and make virtual world as convincing as real life (Early April's Fools day?) - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...
Iiiiih - "A tube connected to a box of chemicals releases smells under the wearer's nose, while a similar device can spray flavours directly into the mouth and provide a texture sensation." And it looks totally cool, too (YES, I'm being sarcastic)
- Gaby K. Slezák
from Bookmarklet
yeah that was nighthawks era stallone. i remember as a child that it was this HUGE deal when it was being filmed throughout parts of queens, ny
- Cee Bee
I was told Stallone began his career as a porn star. Is that true?
- vijay
I still need to finish Fallout 3. I've been sitting on it for months now.
- Alan Le
@Alan: It is hard to start playing, since sessions take so long and it is slow to load. The main quest is really fast to play, but the side-quests are almost better and embeds the player to the world. Just don't play main quest too long, before finishing the side-quests and getting to the lvl 20.
- Jemm
I think I'm at level 11 when I last played. I stopped right before heading into somewhere guarded by a bunch of kids.
- Alan Le
@Alan: That's the right place (Little Lamplight) to pause the main quest and play all the rest before continuing. After that it will become very action-oriented and you'll need a good character and equipment to survive. Also, after main quest ends, you can't come back and play side-quests etc.
- Jemm
awesome tip. I'll play the sidequests the next time I load up Fallout3.
- Alan Le
Woman recreates American Beauty nude pose for her Valentine - only to discover he's never seen the film
| Mail Online - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news...
"A hotel penthouse, a professional photo of herself dressed only in rose petals ... Lesley Heague was sure her boyfriend would be bowled over by her recreation of the classic scene from American Beauty, his favourite film. But after splashing out £1,000 on her Valentine's Day gesture, she found out he had never even seen the movie. In fact, Luke Scrase's favourite film was Denzel Washington's 2008 crime thriller American Gangster - a movie with a rather less romantic slant. All her plans had been based on a simple mishearing."
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
Good thing that he didn't reveal to her that his _real_ favorite movie is really Debbie does Dallas... I wonder how that would have turned out.
- Jemm
He may never have seen the movie but I bet he won't forget this gift from his Valentine. I bet he didn't even care that he hadn't seen the movie after this either. :)
- Paul Wade
I did the same thing last year with dot matrix printer paper perforated guides. Ponzi really didn't get it, and I wound up getting a few paper cuts in rather unmentionable places.
- l0ckergn0me
Good for him. I hadn't wasted my time watching that crap. On the plus/down side for him, he now has pictures of his girlfriend in nothing but rose petals THAT THE WHOLE WORLD HAS NOW SEEN!
- Admiral Anika
....please don't let the partner-in-crime recreate anything from MY favourite film... :(
- Nine
It's actually quite a disturbing film, not that romantic. He dies at the end doesn't he, from memory. In the film Spacey's character is fantasising about his daughter's young hight school friend, who is under 16, yes?
- jjprojects
haha, Chris! And it made the 'news' because it was The Mail, a UK paper...and one of their less alarmist pieces.
- WorldofHiglet
The Mandarin Hotel gave me some good advice on this subject for anyone thinking about trying this at home- use either fake silk ones or real white ones. The colored real ones stain the tub, bedsheets, carpet, skin etc.
- Mrsth
Things you don't know about me #26 I live walking distance from the house used in American Beauty.
- Mark Krynsky
bwahahaha ... so she misheard "american gangster" as "american beauty"? that's kind of hilarious. she should also clean out her ears.
- tiffany
I thought this was an Onion article before I saw the URL.
- Ginger Makela Riker
Would you really have to have seen the movie to enjoy a picture of your g/f draped in nothing but rose petals?
- Joe Pierce
"Here's an invention that could put an end to an age old squabble between men and women: the toilet that automatically lowers the seat. Finally!"
- sandhal
from Bookmarklet
"Premium sportscar buyers expect their exotic machinery to sound as good as it looks and goes. Few automakers recognize this as well as Porsche, which has announced the availability of a new variable exhaust system for its mainstay 911 range. The new sports exhaust, with a pair of dual exhaust tips protruding from beneath the car's tail, is adjustable from inside the cabin, varying the exhaust note according to engine load and speed. The system will be available from April on the latest 911 Carrera and Targa 4 for a $2500 premium, and can be retrofitted to existing models as well."
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet