Uhm yeah. It passed so quickly! And so many things have happened that would make today's world unrecognisable to anyone from ten years ago!
- Adrian Scicluna
The decade starts with the 1 and ends with a 0. So Bren is correct. But Lindsay is right that 10 years has passed sine 2000. #tryingdiplomacy
- Admiral Anika
The 90's apparently started in 1991 according so some people.
- Rob Haas
I must not be one of those people. 1990 is in the 90's for me (at least, it's not part of the 80's).
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Go all the way back to the first year of two millenia ago: was it year 0 or was it year 1?
- Bren -- Making Contact
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If it was year 1, then it ended at the end of the year 1000, not at the end of the year 999 and so on.
- Bren -- Making Contact
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And go ahead and block me, if you want. Your blocking me will not make me less correct.
- Bren -- Making Contact
from iPhone
There was no year 0—thus, the first century only had 99 years. Likewise, the first decade only had 9 years. They do this just to piss off programmers.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
It doesn't matter when the first decade started...it only matters that we don't count based on the Roman system, so Lindsay is correct.
- Alex Scoble
Glen: so we just change the definition of decade, century and millenium in the case of the first one? Seems reasonable.
- Bren -- Making Contact
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Lastly: Happy New Year, my friends. I <3 you all and don't *really* care how you count decades or centuries, or even millenia :)
- Bren -- Making Contact
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Bren is accurate. But everyone I know considers decades to begin with - 00. That's the popular usage.
- Chris Baskind
I see the point about not having a year 0 but it just seems extremely wrong to say, for instance, that 1990 was part of the 80's. Also, you could think of year 0 being the starting point where when you reach the end of year 1 a year has passed, so by the time you reach the end of year 9, a decade has passed since you began counting... so only UP TO the next 00 date is part of the preceding decade (not the whole next year)... Eh whatever.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Back in the day when Jesus is purported to have lived, the Romans started counting all things with 1 (I). Today, however, this is not how we count. We start counting at 0. Lindsay wins...again!
- Alex Scoble
That's a pretty good answer, Alex. The penalty the Romans paid for having no zero. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
Alex: if you were counting, say, apples- would you start counting at zero apples? Or would you wait to start counting until you had 1 apple?
- Bren -- Making Contact
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Why wouldn't there be a year 0? I'm pretty sure God is a C programmer. :)
- Cristo
A year is a measurement, not a "thing" like an apple... you start measurements from a starting point to an ending point... look on a ruler which is used to measure things . It starts with 0, not 1.... There's a difference between counting and measuring in my mind.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
LOL @ Cristo. That's an interesting assertion: C programmers like things more complicated, cryptic and painful than they should be.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I'm going to lunch...you guys enjoy the new year and the new decade!
- Alex Scoble
Somewhere, there's an ancient Arab mathematician reading this and laughing his ass off.
- Chris Baskind
But Lindsay, we're not talking about measurement, we're talking about the naming of a period, and if the first year was called "1," then the 10th year would be 10 and so on. Thus the decades would end at the end of the "0" year, and begin with the "1" year. As a measurement of time goes, we have just completed a decade, just as we do *every* year, it just wasn't the first full decade of the 21st century. Blame naming conventions, I'm just the messenger.
- Bren -- Making Contact
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It depends on when you start counting. If you start counting AT 1, then you have disregarded the entire first year of the decade because you didn't start counting until the first year was over. It's like, why do we call it the 19th century when it was the 2000's? Because the 1st century was from 0-100. If we'd started counting at 100 then year 101 would be in the 1st century and years 0-100 would have been moot.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Right. Most people consider the change from the 99th year to the 00th year as the turn of the century.
- Cristo
Right, so if 00 is part of the last century then the century wouldn't turn until 01.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
But that is not our naming convention, Lindsay: we call the first day of a month day 1, from the second it starts to the second before it becomes day 2. Likewise with years, decades and millenia. I'm not arguing with your measurement, but you are simply disregarding a commonly understood naming convention for time periods, and no logical argument for why it *should* be different is going to change what it actually *is*
- Bren -- Making Contact
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This is actually a mistake. I believe the first month should be labeled 0, and the first day of the month should be labeled 0. We're doing it wrong, not as God, the C programmer intended. :)
- Cristo
Thus the beginning of time would be 0.0.0000, not 1.1.0001.
- Cristo
The first day of the month is from the end of the last day of the previous month (0) to the end of the first day of the month... The first year of a decade is from the end of the last year of the previous decade to the end of the first year of that decade... not from the end of the first year to the end of the second.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I agree with Lindsay. I think we're just labeling it wrong.
- Cristo
I agree that the naming convention is not accurate, Cristo. Still doesn't change my argument.
- Bren -- Making Contact
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Bren, if everything is just based on convention, then the convention is that a decade begins with 00. That's what the majority of people think.
- Cristo
Centuries and decades don't line up. No one used this form of reckoning until AD 525/525 CE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... There wasn't a year 0 or really a year 1 for that matter (although the convention is that 1 BC/BCE is followed by AD 1/1 CE) and depending on who you believe, there may even be years that never really happened...
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- Victor Ganata
@Bren - Your argument doesn't seem valid to me... a decade starts with the end of the previous decade and ends with the end of the 10th year.... starts at the beginning of 00 and ends at the end of 09. But in any case you have to admit there are 10 years there... maybe not what you consider a "Decade" with a capital D, but a decade none the less.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I just realized that 4 digits will not be enough to encode all the years since the formation of earth. How many digits will I need?
- Cristo
The Earth is supposed to be a few billion years old, right? 10 digits in the decimal system should cover you, right?
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Lindsay, hmmm. That's going to be hard to fit on the space they provide on a check from my bank.
- Cristo
You gotta use scientific notation, is all :D
- Victor Ganata
I wonder if they'll accept that. :) I'm also going to start writing 0.0 for the first month and day.
- Cristo
I read something that they don't even worry about dates on checks anymore... so probably! There is no such thing as a "back dated" or "future dated" check anymore. If it gets to the bank and has your sig, they cash it.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I'm done. Happy New Year, again. Call it whatever you want, it *really* does not matter to me.
- Bren -- Making Contact
from iPhone
If a guy can draw a penis as his signature and get away with it 99% of the time, I'm pretty sure most anything will pass.
- Cristo
Dammit, you people are arguing over nothing. Decade literally stands for any period of 10 years, 00-09 is a decade, 01-10 is another decade. Edited for correctness.
- Jimminy Fuller
True enough! Either way, I'm still amazed that we're to 2010 and not on Mars or something. But also happy to have a 1080p TV and a 1.5TB harddrive.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
If the current convention is to be followed, yeah, it's the teens.
- Victor Ganata
Or does 10, 11, 12 belong to another name, since they aren't teens?
- Cristo
I love Journey and what a great show
- VAL D. Zone
check out the new live album " Live In Manila " with new singer ... Arnel Pineda
- johnpiercy
Ive seen them 3 times this year ,... hardcore fan ,,
- johnpiercy
with the new singer can't think of his name right now but does a great job from some the stuff I have seen...I saw them back in the 80s
- VAL D. Zone
thanks john I did not read the listing before I typed about Arnel
- VAL D. Zone
Steve Augeri was till last yr ... Arnel Pineda ... is the new guy .. type his name in You Tube and see his voice in Action .. Live in Manilla is $10.00 , 2 hrs of solid live Journey .. well worth the price ..
- johnpiercy
You will still have four years of David Tennant episodes to enjoy. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if we see more of him as the Doctor sometime down the road.
- Louis Trapani
SML: Some people get to be astronauts; some people get to be McDonalds employees. It's a demotivational poster making fun of the belief that everyone has the potential for greatness.
- Mark H
Somewhat silly though. I do believe that everyone has the potential for greatness - you've just got to find out what you love and exploit it. There's something for everybody - but finding it is tricky and difficult
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
I plead abiding ignorance: lived in the UK for several years, heck my fifth kid was born there, and now spend half my professional waking life there (it seems!) and still don't have a singular, clear idea of why this is called Boxing Day. Help?
The name derives from the tradition of giving seasonal gifts, on the day after Christmas, to less wealthy people and social inferiors, which was later extended to various workpeople such as labourers and servants. The traditional recorded celebration of Boxing Day has long included giving money and other gifts to charitable institutions, the needy and people in service positions. The...
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- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
thx Gunny. But the "boxes" thang, is that an archaic term for "gifts" as the wiki seems to say? My wife recalls her English friends saying it grew from using the boxes from your Xmas gifts the previous day to load up food and other stuff to take and bear as fresh gifties to the friends and family you went a-visiting to the day after Christmas.
- Thom Kennon
A nice nest egg in the bank so I don't have to worry from month to month about my bills being on a fixed income sucks........now back to reality I love getting wild bird seed to feed the birds and squirrels specially with all the snow on the ground
- VAL D. Zone
I'm opening mine tomorrow morning, FYI. I'll be in Houston for Xmas Eve and Day and won't be bringing it with me. It's been terribly difficult not to tear this thing open!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
But I don't WANT a post the most offensive possible while staying safe for work picture with :( as the heading meme! The meme committee forbids it!
- Matthew DeVries
chill out people... hardly a bad pic. :o) had to look twice myself to see what the fuss was, so it can't be THAT obvious lol. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
See, now those COULD successfully teabag the white house.
- Ethan
"I took the liberty of milking your cow for you. Yeah, it took a little while to get her warmed up, she sure is a stubborn one"
- Chris Rivait
What if I just promise not to bump it?
- Josh Haley
How would you precisely phrase this promise? Let's revise and get that language exactly right
- Matthew DeVries
Do your balls hang low? do they wabble to and fro? Can you tie them in a knott? Can you tie them in a bow? Can you throw them over your shoulder like a contenental solgier? Do your nuts hang low?
- Fake Elmo
Nuts or balls, Elmo? (I bet that gets said all the time)
- Josh Haley
Those would be far more impressive than the set dangling from the back of my pickup currently. Is there anything more classy than a scrotum hanging from the back of your car.
- Matthew DeVries
this is the thread that keeps on giving whether you want it to or not
- Cee Bee
[Edit] Show that beastie a photo looking straight down over the edge of the Grand Canyon and those babies will pull up a good 6 inches!
- Mark "Mr Bolivious" J
"Fondo Colanco is a private ranch that I visited on the day of the Spring castration. We watched about 30 bulls get snipped and then retired to a barn for the day. We stripped the balls from the scrota, taking them to a giant plow set over an open wood fire for searing in oil, garlic, and chiles before parking them between two homemade rolls for hand sandwiches. The scrota were sauteed...
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- Josh Haley
Did you know that during the end credits of Borat, there is a picture like this, of a different woman in a similar hat cupping a bull's balls? I found that very interesting and now am trying to figure out what the real meaning of it all is.
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
the meaning is... wow, never felt balls like it... :P
- Rob Sellen :o)
Avatar was incredible. Epic. The 3-D IMAX experience was the perfect compliment for it....a must-see movie.
- FF's Bubba of Arizona
:D Great. Feeling better and better about it now. I read a bunch of good reviews, but then talked to a fellow nerd friend who walked out on it. So my enthusiasm waned. But he's the only one who didn't like it, apparently. :D Going to see it early next week then.
- rowlikeagirl
It was a long movie, over 2.5 hours. But it's about the only reason I would see someone walking out. Very entertaining.
- FF's Bubba of Arizona
The butter is working it's way to room temp on the counter. Soon I will be whipping up a batch of Snickerdoodles. I am trying to avoid the siren call of the book I got for Christmas. (Kathy Reichs-Cross Bones) But I am weak.
I don't blame fox as much as I did for Firefly. They gave it a chance. Sadly the story development was slow. Also, Eliza Dushku just isn't that great an actress, Dichen Lachman on the other hand is amazing, so is the guy playing Victor.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Hate to say it, but being canceled is the best thing to happen to the writing of this show.
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
from Android
Given the level of writing that the original pilot showed, I am absolutely blaming Fox for this. If they hadn't retooled the show, we may have already reached this point by the end of Season 1, instead of nearing the truncated end of Season 2.
- Steven Perez
It did get off to a slow start, it wasn't until we met Alpha last season that it started to come together for me. Now it's a must-see each week. Ms. Dushku is just now hitting her stride in the role but is still consistently overshadowed by Olivia Williams and much of the rest of the cast -- any guesses how long it will take Enver ("Victor") Gjokaj to get a show of his own? I'll be sad when it's gone but am eager to see what Joss does next. Whatever it is, I just hope it's not on Fox.
- cdogzilla
Good point Bunneh regarding Fox's heavy-handedness with the show. Joss needs to get over to TNT or FX. Dushku has a development deal with Fox for some reason and she brought Joss in. I had high hopes for Doll House, but they weren't dashed by Fox for me. Can't quite put my finger on who to blame.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
I am mad at Fox for retooling the show, but I do understand why they did that. Even the Microsoft "Simplify" spots did something similar. They even tried to make up for the mistake, but the writing still didn't get going until after too many people had let the show go even after watching the entire first season. Poor Dollhouse, but at least it got a chance to show off some awesome in the end. And it gets to have a real finale.
- Amber, Random Time Lord