interesting photo - Louis Gray Says "ff down" and Jesse Stay says "ff up" regarding stats: http://www.flickr.com/photos... (both threads showed up exactly like this in my stream)
I'm mildly curious what the actual stats are. Services like those are never trustable. Of course the important question is what you're getting out of the service yourself.
- Bruce Lewis
Jesse is wrong. It's an easy answer! :)
- Louis Gray
I used to love Andy when he was on the old show. Oddly, I think he's more out of place now. Looking forward to getting home and watching the TiVo to see you being right.
- Louis Gray
I think they're just trying to find their groove again. At first it was as nervous and awkward as Letterman and Shaffer. Now, as each show goes by, they're letting Andy off the leash a little more, letting him riff, etc. The first couple of weeks? You wouldn't have known that Andy was there at all. Now he's starting to steal the show more and more and the interactions between Conan and Andy are starting to approach the awesomeness they had from the old show.
- Akiva Moskovitz
The Tonight Show had some promising stuff when they first arrived in LA but has settled among the cage litter of fat jokes now.
- Spidra Webster
'settled among the cage litter of fat jokes now'. What does that even mean?
- Akiva Moskovitz
Cage litter = shit-stained newspapers at the bottom of a bird cage. Fat jokes = the tired stuff Conan O' Brien's writing staff passes off as cutting edge humor
- Spidra Webster
A little Alex Scoble rubbed off on you, I see. I've watched plenty of The Tonight Show since Conan took over. I have my opinion of the show and you have yours.
- Spidra Webster
That's the point of my snark, Spidra. In a subjective discussion, everyone in disagreement is automatically wrong. And, for the record, the 'plenty' you've watched doesn't give you any more of an expert opinion on this subjective matter than I have. Thus, we both remain equally wrong. It just makes you extra funny.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I wasn't trying to say "plenty" as if it made me more expert. I was trying to establish that I didn't come to that opinion based on just watching an episode or two.
- Spidra Webster
That's cool. We're still both wrong. And you're still funny!
- Akiva Moskovitz
And they *did* change their web site! Check out the video! "Tired of someplace where everyone already is? I want My{own}Space!" http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Kevin Fox
Left to right, as if you didn't know already: Dan Hsiao, Casey Muller, Ana Yang, Jim Norris, Tudor Bosman, Bret Taylor, Paul Buchheit (with Camilla), Sanjeev Singh, Kevin Fox.
- Tudor Bosman
That's why I love today's web : you can talk with the people that build the next web, and see those who build your current web. Congrats guys!
- Zackatoustra
FriendFeed Team, I love you !!!! Thanks to you all, I'm very happy everyday!!!
- Renchin(Reina)Wang
So that was the TGIFF ("Thank Goodness It's FriendFeed") party? Perhaps slightly off-topic, but if Camiila hasn't been betrothed yet, have I got a grandson for her ;-))
- ianf ⌘
TGIFF was excellent. Great event and great people.Thanks for the invite and hospitality.
- AJ Kohn
Louis, thank you and thank you to the FriendFeed team for making a killer product and hosting a great open house!
- Brian Solis
(bump) Ana and Casey are now married. Here's a pic of them on the left, between Ross and Jim. Congratulations to Ana and Casey! (per http://friendfeed.com/jessica...)
- Louis Gray
علی حجوانی تو روحت، ای واسه چه موقعیه؟ :)))
- Mehran
:))))))))) مال بعد از عیده. اواخر فروردین فک کنم
- Aly
This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws.
- Soup
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out...
- Greg Lato
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers.
- Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" ..
- Petr Buben
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :]
- Petr Buben
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes).
- Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little
- Steve C
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
They fax much better if you flatten them first. What?
- Kevin Pedraja
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all!
- Kol Tregaskes
My like is the last one so far :) - 509 afaik
- getalifejerk
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician)
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-)
- John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John.
- Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی
- Maryaminaa
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or...
- sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I remember when I first logged in to FriendFeed (I joined at the launch of the beta version, so my comments will relate to that). My first thought was "What the heck is this and what can I do with it?" I was already an active Facebook and Twitter user (as well as a blogger). Why did I need yet another social web service? In this post I and other FF for Beginners Guides will try to answer those questions.
- Mark Traphagen
DEFINITION: There are as many definitions of FF as there are users. In part that's because FF is so flexible and powerful, people use it for many different things. The "official" self-description of FF is "FriendFeed helps you discover and discuss interesting stuff that your friends and family find on the web." I would add another verb: "share." So in a nutshell, FF helps you SHARE-DISCOVER-DISCUSS. The unique power of FF is the way it allows you to blend and cross all three of those actions.
- Mark Traphagen
1. SHARE: FriendFeed allows you to post things from the Internet (or your own thoughts & ideas) that you want to share with others. You can do this manually by simply typing a post into the blank at the top of your Home page. OR automate what you share here by giving FriendFeed access to any of the other social web or bookmarking services you use (HOW TO: http://beta.friendfeed.com/friendf...)
- Mark Traphagen
2. DISCOVER: Browse your Home page feed and any Subscriptions or Filters you have for a never-ending cascade of stuff others on FriendFeed have found fun/interesting/helpful. The more subscriptions you have, the faster that waterfall flows (feed pages in beta FF now update in real time). You can make anything you see show up in your own public feed by either adding a comment to it (see below) or clicking "like" under the topic.
- Mark Traphagen
3. DISCUSS: Here's where FF "one ups" other social web services: Virtually anything you see on FF can have a discussion attached to it. This begins when any user adds a comment to the post. You can join any discussion by clicking "comment" under the post description. TIP: To keep track of discussions in which you've participated, click the new "My Discussions" link in your Filters box. Discussed topics automatically rise to the top as new comments are added.
- Mark Traphagen
That's the basics, but there is SO much more power to FriendFeed! Browse or search the topics in this group for more ideas. Perhaps my fellow guides will add their own "What is FriendFeed?" definitions below.
- Mark Traphagen
I like this post, but would like it even better were it more concise, less chatty, more descriptive as to the differences between FF and some other, more widely talked-about social sites. Especially for those among us who thus far have abstained from joining by-and-large sophomoric "communities". [Typo? what typo].
- ianf ⌘
Thanks for the feedback, lanf. Typo corrected. This definition was "chatty" by design. My intention was to draw in those who, like myself at one time, feel overwhelmed by FriendFeed's seeming complexity. I wanted to create interest without being exhaustive, so I limited myself to the three things that are standout (to me) about FriendFeed. Sure, other social web locations allow you to "share, discover, & discuss," but the power of FF is the unique way it brings the three together.
- Mark Traphagen
Might be a good idea, though, to create a post here that describes specific differences between FF and other services. In the meantime, if you're interested in that subject, FF fanatic Robert Scoble has hosted many active discussions here on how FF differs from Twitter and Facebook in particular. If you browse this filter: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... you'll find some of them.
- Mark Traphagen
I'll study it later, but for now made it into my own filter (as apparently there is no other way to share ready-mades among ourselves).
- ianf ⌘
Thanks for the tutorial. I appreciated it.
- timethief
Nice definition. I will add my voice for >4. BLOG, aggregate< .Please boost the blogging capabilities. That means, allow posting more text, allow some text formatting. Otherwise, this mixture you lay out here, is the success recipe for any social site out there - BOOKMARK, aggregate - IMPORT, aggregate - DISCUSS. I might add support for email sending via "em@emailaddress" in the post, and aggregation of discuss, where comments would also go to FB, Intense Debate, Disqus, or any other platform.
- Petr Buben
I thought IntenseDebate had recently complained about their own spam problem as well. Has anyone compared Disqus, IntenseDebate and JS-Kit Echo with regards to spam control?
- Rob Diana
Rob, I have been hearing great things about JS-Kit. I'm heavily leaning towards it.
- Mike Fruchter
Disqus is toast on my blog. It's spam riddled beyond belief.
- Mike Fruchter
There is no mechanism in place to detect 50 spam comments being left back to back on different posts from the same IP. Surely they need to do something about this. I have been a Disqus backer since day one, but this is the final straw.
- Mike Fruchter
That is a shame as I know they are definitely trying to curb the issue. I hope they can break through whatever issue they are having.
- Rob Diana
JS-Kit is looking better and better every minute.
- Mike Fruchter
Rob, yea I agree. By now they should have there act together though. They are very behind the curb.
- Mike Fruchter
Disqus cannot handle even the most obvious forms of spam. Which is too bad, because I love their API and generally like their service.
- Carter Rabasa
Yeah, I went with Intense Debate and never worried about Disqus again.
- Spencer
I'm in about the same place. I'm thinking about moving back to WP and Akismet.
- EricaJoy
Hi Mike, any new experiences with JS-Kit? Had (almost) no spam up till now
- Jeroen De Miranda
You may be a few days too soon - the new Disqus launches this week with improved spam support. Also, have you added your Akismet key to your settings in Disqus? They just added that recently.
- Jesse Stay
I'd like less hype out of Disqus and more product improvement.
- Cliff Gerrish
I looked at JS-Kit, installed and could not import my comments. No reply from their support either. I installed Intense Debate and so far so good. Plenty of bells and whistles. I installed Akismet with it as well and no spam has gotten through. Impressed so far with ID!
- Mike Fruchter
I just turned on moderation for any comment with a link and required registration + confirmation for commenting. Temporary solution until I can switch to something else.
- EricaJoy
I had tried ID several months ago; at that time I ran into some serious bugs (like comments from one blog appearing on another blog). Guess those bugs have been ironed out in the mean time. Good to see competition and probably more diffentiation, that is best for all users!
- Jeroen De Miranda
I haven't had any spam issues with Disqus + Akismat
- andy brudtkuhl
ID and Disqus both support Akismet at the moment. Disqus added Akismet sometime last week IIRC. I switched from Disqus to ID and back in the last few months - it was a relatively painless process!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
in my view, any and every tattoo is deplorable, rather disgusting para-culture .. where did it start? in prison, with gangs? ... and tattoo on a lady is doubly questionable, and unelegant ... I mean, where is this world going to?
- Petr Buben
Petr - tattoos can be beautiful works of art, it's just that they often are not.
- Sparky
Petr, tattoos have been around as long as man. Tattoos have been found on mummified bodies from as early as neolithic times and present in cultures around the world. These are awesome though! I love bad tattoos :)
- Jason
Petr, you are very judgmental and I'm not just talking about this thread. You need to relax a little.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I am judgmental, yes ... relaxed,also ... was it over the line what I said about tattooes? ..../////. IF the comment was over the rules, would the esteemed author of the post please delete it :] other than that, thank you for the advice :]
- Petr Buben
This book is available for the Kindle. Seems like the pictures would be the main draw, and I don't find that the Kindle is all that great for pictures, at least illustrations. Anyone have the Kindle version want to comment?
- Andy Bakun
I've seen the same thing. I haven't ignored any friend requests, but I won't be approving any until I get my privacy settings worked out.
- Jason Huebel
Might actually make more sense to gather around Google Reader for now, in case Google advances it towards a more FF-ish interface.
- phil baumann
I made a special group called "online friends" Now the question remains, can you have different privacy settings per group in facebook? That would be the best fix.
- Bryan Lee
THat's my understanding. Somebody was talking about it Monday evening. I haven't tried it myself, though. It hurts my head to wade through the quagmire that is Facebook.
- Jason Huebel
My FB friends are soooo different from my FF friends. I dread the day when I need to merge the 2 groups..
- Winston Teo
I think people are being prepared, and they will continue to be worried until they get answers. I am more than happy to invite all FriendFeeders into my Facebook. http://www.facebook.com/louisgr...
- Louis Gray
Same here, it's a different level of connection
- Amit Morson
I was already on FB. I set up lists to separate my family from my FF friends on FB. I'll set different privacy settings for each when I get to it.
- Dennis Jernberg
I'm loosening my policies regarding who I befriend on Facebook. Of course, I have separate lists for different groups of people.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
And I also operate under the assumption that nothing is truly private, privacy settings or no. I don't use Facebook to discuss confidential info with my work friends, or private family issues with my family friends.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Fans aren't really connections, Robert--at least not in the same way. Not diminishing that, by the way. In many respects, I far prefer the sensibility of fan pages. Meanwhile, I'm here http://www.facebook.com/kfitch and happy to accept FF connections as friends. (I have more than one account on FB. Some who are concerned about boundaries might try that.)
- Kathy Fitch
Robert has no choice but to use a fan page. And you can still interact on the wall of the fan page. I just wish fan pages weren't limited to one incoming feed.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
As I said, I far prefer fan pages in many respects. Very good for organizations and brands (and Robert is definitely the latter). Just a different sort of connection. (I have fan posting entirely off for one fan page. We'll see how that goes over time.)
- Kathy Fitch
I see Facebook as a different animal. Hey there's a staggering amount of content here on FriendFeed, but it's not as overwhelming. I agree, different audiences.
- Rob Schieber
I put two of my blogs on fan pages, primarily to keep them off my main feed.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Yep I am the same. Friends on Facebook, business contacts on LinkedIn, Everyone on Twitter
- Tony "Frosty" Welch
I think these walls are getting tougher to build, though, and maybe not as useful. When I built a new FB page more for my business/non-academic persona, friends from my other account started adding me. There's a fluidity about it that's appealing. Tsunamis aren't so appealing, though, so it's all about balance, I guess.
- Kathy Fitch
It's funny. When I began with FB, *nobody* that I count as a friend in my personal life was there. Some of my nieces and nephews were there, but I didn't friend them--too intrusive. So, my early connections there were all academic--not classmates, but fellow professors. From the beginning, it has been a professional space, for me--friendly and silly, but professional. I don't do the post baby pics, frequent update on personal life, etc. thing at all, on any network.
- Kathy Fitch
I'm waiting for the coming Fan feature.
- Hugh Isaacs II
I got a friendfeeders list and a limited privacy list for the "others" Friendfeeders are more than welcomed to hit me on fb
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Same here. I use FriendFeed as a way to monitor what my contacts are doing, and occasionally to interact. I use Facebook primarily as an interaction vehicle.
- Daniel B. Honigman
I plan to keep things totally separate; Facebook is for people I deal with in real life (with a few exceptions). If I can't find a similar service to FriendFeed, I and anyone following me are pretty much screwed.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
A while back I cranked up the public aspect on my Facebook account, and forgot all about privacy there. If my friends want to have a private conversation with me, the can use old-standards: Email and IM. Facebook is now the place where I get to know people. (and FriendFeed, but who knows about that now...time will tell)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I think people are jumping to conclusions. There's a mat for that. Facebook doesn't work like FriendFeed yet, and Facebook hasn't sent out a "quick, you've got to redo all your network using Facecbook before we delete your Facebook account" message... what's this rush?
- Wade Dorrell
Up until recently I kept everything separate mainly out of respect and concern for my daughter, her privacy, and overwhelming her with stuff, but I have discussed it with her and she feels I shouldn't restrict myself and in her words "bring it on, it might be more interesting than your lack of posting has been."
- April Russo (app103)
Regarding Steve's post on his blog, I'm going to share this tidbit (which I also posted to Steve's blog): "I'm really hoping that FriendFeed stays as-is and integrates lots of nice features into FB. It'd be really unfortunate if we lost all of our dedication (I share stuff on FF I like referring to) for nothing. Still, I begin to wonder if FF would have been sold to FB if the FF members...
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- Tamar Weinberg
I was on FB before FF and only opened the account because of some cousins, neice, nephew, sister.....even my mother is on it for god's sake....but I found it silly and drab. None of my family knows anything about technology to speak of. I even have some friends who won't go on FB because they know nothing about social media. When I found FF I was thrilled....exactly what I wanted, and...
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- Bonnie Foster
I use Facebook with my family and because of their lack of privacy I cannot accept business connections.
- Eric Gourmet
Also blocked. If you can't tell me something without hiding, what can we assume about your credibility?
- Angelo Stavrow
great like the trolls need more places to eat
- Andrew Euell
thats 4 anonymous sources w/communications w/journalists that would be great source 4 journalists & sources. Why should we be so negative 4?
- polou/indigo_bow
WONDERFUL!!!! Just what Twitter needs!!! NOT!
- Tony Davis
@samuel if its 4 the same purpose yes they r in violation of TOS, but I am not sure of their context therefore not much I can say. lots of ppl have more than 1 Twitter account 4 different purposes.
- polou/indigo_bow
Samuel: That's a BIG problem. Sent a test message to myself, but can only block one source address (TA2), not all at once. :>(
- Larry Hawes
It's for same purpose, they are splitting the anonymous tweets across multiple accounts. Watch those accounts for a few minutes and you'll see several coming from all of them.
- Otto
Anyone know how we can complain about this to Twitter and make it stop?
- Larry Hawes
I hope that Twitter cuts off their access. That's clearly a violation of the "serialized accounts" that help to define spam. Will this be used for anything other than spam of evil? I seriously doubt it.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
from PeopleBrowsr
I want the opposite from Twitter. I want exposure! Our new parolee/pitbull TV show, The Underdawgz which starts in Sept. on Animal Planet.
- shelter watch