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Scroll @pinkelephantpun. Unrepentant about adding half a mil to an absurd crowd estimate; feels fine about being the source for 2 million.
On her blog she writes: "Note: All the ABC 2 million drama that happened yesterday. I reported based on what I was told by Police, Park Service and staffers. The ABC thing wound up being wrong. I didn’t make up the estimate. ABC was misquoted by FreedomWorks, and I tweeted it. I apologize for the confusion,"
- George Frink
but she did not notice when the policeman, park ranger and their friends started signing D.I.S.C.O right afterwards....
- Bora Zivkovic
She's the first person from whom I heard what became the Sarah Palin "death panels" falsehood. Asked what she was talking about, she was all page and paragraph like the former insurance executive whose "work" I had overlooked until provoked by the pink elephant.
- George Frink
Gillmor correctly calls her "pure propagandist" on his Twitter stream, and he is right. A typical non-reality-based riightwing wacko for whom victory-at-all-costs is far more important than such trifle as facts.
- Bora Zivkovic
She seems nice.
- Josette Torres
from fftogo
Kind of a happy propagandist, I'd say. Untroubled by distributing blatant falsehoods. She'll even lie about her own easily checkable Tweets. Guile-less in a way.
- Jay Rosen
Yes, cheerful, in a middle-school mean-girl kind-a way
- Bora Zivkovic
One can only stand and applaud the New York Times for its massive investigation of water pollution enforcement gone bust http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
Josette Torres, George Frink and Bora Zivkovic liked this
::applaudes:: Wonders how appropriately skilled bloggers can stop themselves from looking at unexamined local data & following up. Data's there. Public service benefit is there. Times can't do everything. Wonders whether NYT API offers a window for mutually beneficial work.
- George Frink
Agreed, George.
- Jay Rosen
Creation: The true story of Charles Darwin | Trailer http://is.gd/3cFOn || - http://creationthemovie.com/flash...
No one will distribute in the United States. Anyone want to drive to Canada for a movie?
- George Frink
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A Feast for the Eyes: So good, that I could just cry-- Pioneer Woman's Best Chocolate Sheetcake - http://foodiewife-kitchen.blogspot.com/2009...
magali, Yasemin Ateş, yasintamer and 42 other people liked this
Now I know what I *need* to add to my breakfast to make it complete!-)
- George Frink
George, LOL
- Myrna
4 sticks of butter?!?
- Spidra Webster
"the devil on a plate" LOL
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
LOL and I'm off to have a healthy meal.
- Myrna
Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- ecem trkcglu
Beğenilmez mi. Ben de yemek sapığı gibi bugün tüm yemek görüntülerine düştüm. Bulunca da yesem sanki!
- Apostrofes
一見ハンバーグかと思った (-_-;
- jz0f
yummy :p
- آریـوبرزن
I'm sharing this with Yatot - go get your plastic cup. And to @elmot who must be famished running after Mr. G. Rest your tired feet, bro. This is heaven. :)
- jan geronimo
Anti-hate protesters plan to picket hate-Obama radical pastor every Sunday: http://wp.me/pn9bU-1ii Should they? - http://baptistplanet.wordpress.com/2009...
An anti-violence protest group plans regular Sunday demonstrations outside the church of “Why I Hate Barack Obama [.mp3]” Pastor Steven Anderson’s independent Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, AZ.
- George Frink
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Christian Fundamentalists speaking in support of Obama’s speech http://wp.me/pn9bU-1hW || - http://baptistplanet.wordpress.com/2009...
"American Christian fundamentalists aren’t wearing tin-foil school-speech hats with conspiracy-theory conservatives. They are instead speaking in faithful, reasoned support of President Barack Obama’s school speech tomorrow."
- George Frink
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Steven W. Kelly, John (a.k.a. dendroica) and Dave Winer liked this
That is beautiful! :-)
- Dave Winer
Non-breeding? I have two beautiful children, 12 and 7 years old.
- Jay Rosen
His comment's self-explosive contradictions of reality is a part of its beauty.
- George Frink
@jstrevino: Whoa. I've been told wrong. That, my apologies: RT @jayrosen_nyu: re: "non-breeding" I have two beautiful kids... @jstrevino to @jayrosen_nyu Priggish leftism, galactic importance, I stand by in full! Sorry about the kids, though, really. Ugh.
- Jay Rosen
@jstrevinoIt appears @jayrosen_nyu has done his duty in perpetuating society in ways I have not. Lo, my Twitter feed is hollow as Ozymandias's boast.
- Jay Rosen
@jstrevino: CORRECTED COPY FOLLOWS: At the intersection of Jay Rosen and Rachel Maddow is the galactic nexus of self-satisfied leftist priggery.
- Jay Rosen
My house phone is down- did Mt. Wilson go?
Comments here: http://is.gd/2MqXi say Mt. Wilson Observatory (at least) may be spared.
- George Frink
LAURA LING AND EUNA LEE MAKE FIRST STATEMENT REGARDING EVENTS LEADING TO CAPTURE // Current - http://current.com/sl...
Bhowmik Shah, Mycaptain and Joe liked this
Kidnapped and interrogated.
- George Frink
Documents show the Pentagon rates reporters' previous coverage as positive or negative before deciding how to handle them http://www.stripes.com/article...
Josette Torres and Ron Marks liked this
Ah... all public relations do this. WaggEd (MSFT's PR shop) won't talk to you if you've been consistently negative about the company. The White House, no matter which party is in power, does the same.
- Jason Pontin
I guess this would be 'okay' - but how they handle them based on this rating is of more importance, right?
- Chris Heath
@Jason: That's actually your response to this? You read the article?
- Ken Kennedy
There's the savvy for you. The Pentagon tell us, "the only thing we care about is accurate/inaccurate." Documents come to light showing that this is....you know, a total lie. Then the savvy guy (in this example played by Jason Pontin but it could be many, many other journalists) who knows how the world really works, drops by to de-excite us: they all do it! Standard practice! You need to get out a little more!
- Jay Rosen
Ah...I understand. I am enlightened. Thanks, Jay. I have a new understanding of 'Church of the Savvy' now.
- Ken Kennedy
And of course I do have to add that it's probably true.... WaggEd (MSFT's PR shop) won't talk to you if you've been consistently negative about the company. The White House, no matter which party is in power, does the same... Punishing reporters who are tough on the home team is not a novel concept at all. The savvy is always telling us why we shouldn't be surprised. That's like...a theme.
- Jay Rosen
Under Bush the military stealthed retired military in as television network analysts: http://is.gd/2CKp8 This combination reporter-rating/message-shaping looks like more of the same to me. At the Fayetteville Observer, next door to Fort Bragg, we didn't think that was to-be-expected. For what it's worth.
- George Frink
Well, Jay, Ken - I didn't mean to imply that it's not shocking if you don't know how PR works; nor that it's not undesirable and undermining of journalism and an open society. I admire Stars and Stripes for their reporting. But I have been shut out by many, many flacks over the years for negative coverage: they think they are protecting their clients. Eventually, they let you out of the...
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- Jason Pontin
Religious Connections: Beyond partisanship: Pope Benedict XVI's 'Caritas in Veritate' - http://www.baptistplanet.com/2009...
In the University of Chicago Divinity School column Sightings, Rick Elgendy argues that the wedge-politics of the culture wars have no support in Pope Benedict XVI's Caritas in Veritate.
- George Frink
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@glenngreenwald My guess: the Post is steering its after-Bush coverage by keeping space between itself and what "liberal bloggers" will say.
Is the Post motto, as a result, "To give the news only partly out of fear of appearing to favor"?
- George Frink
shining on the deer - http://somethingintellectual.tumblr.com/post...
Lars Clausen, Ksana, Xidius and 12 other people liked this
How many times have I see that under a Long Leaf Pine canopy and always it is discovered art, their motion a redefinition of grace.
- George Frink
George, I knew you would like :)
- Myrna
Appreciate much all of your prayers, thoughts, suggestions. Made it thru the night without trip to ER, seems better this AM
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Glad to hear this morning is better.
- George Frink
yeah, just wish we could find the reason, or at least something that relieves the symptoms.
- Karoli
I am glad to hear he's all right (relatively speaking). I hope a doctor can figure out what's going wrong. This must be scary for both of you.
- James (!?)
I think it's frustrating for him...he's still in that mode where he thinks he's immortal. to me, it's scary. :(
- Karoli
Ezekiel Emanuel in his own words « BaptistPlanet - http://baptistplanet.wordpress.com/2009...
"The proper policy, in my view, should be to affirm the status of physician-assisted suicide and euthanasia as illegal. In so doing we would affirm that as a society we condemn ending a patient’s life and do not consider that to have one’s life ended by a doctor is a right. This does not mean we deny that in exceptional cases interventions are appropriate, as acts of desperation when all other elements of treatment — all medications, surgical procedures, psychotherapy, spiritual care, and so on — have been tried. Physician-assisted suicide and euthanasia should not be performed simply because a patient is depressed, tired of life, worried about being a burden, or worried about being dependent. All these may be signs that not every effort has yet been made."
- George Frink
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Randal Terry’s misleading circus « BaptistPlanet - http://baptistplanet.wordpress.com/2009...
“The P.T. Barnum of the pro-life movement“ is on the road, theatrically promoting his “pull the plug on granny” falsehood and doing baby-killing skits.
- George Frink
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Question: In order truly to explain how the DOS attack "worked" don't you have to explain why Twitter was vulnerable to it? Who's done that?
Walter Logeman, Nicholas James, Mitchell Tsai and 25 other people liked this
I'm far from an expert on this -- but it seems that every site is vulnerable to a DOS attack. Google has some black magic in its network that protects their servers in some way. I have no idea what that is. Facebook appears to have some too. Twitter appears to have none. I doubt if the companies are going to explain publicly what they've done, and I suspect Google will share some of its knowhow with the younger companies.
- Dave Winer
However, it occurs to me that your question could prompt a different answer -- that Twitter should explain why it's centralized. In other words defend your architecture. As basic a question as there is. In the news business you could ask a big news org like AP or the Washington Post why are they so vulnerable to corruption in their management. (Just a hypothetical.)
- Dave Winer
Someone in the paper explained it as being "like five very fat blokes trying to get through a revolving door"... made sense to me lol ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Yes, why is Twitter centralized? That's part of it. But also: weren't there differentials in how different sites, different services handled the attack and kept running? Is that data significant, or is it boring as it testifies to the already well known?
- Jay Rosen
That's a good point by Dave Winer re: "defend your architecture" Are they not accountable for any of this?
- Benjamin Taylor
It can see from replies on Twitter that I used the wrong word, "vulnerable." Because that made me sound like a clueless newbie who doesn't know that any site can be attacked, "hit" by a DOS action. True enough! But I meant why did Twitter fold under attack when other sites under attack did not? What are the differentials in performance about? Dumb question? :-)
- Jay Rosen
Twitter has always had large problems getting their system to scale. They made a lot of progress when they stopped trying to use Ruby on Rails (what the original twitter was written in) and switched it all over to Scala. But still, I just think it grew too quickly to scale properly, leaving them particularly vulnerable. Also, some of their early design decisions seem like they might be...
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- Otto
I think if they were built more on the cloud they could extend more to handle such a load. Cloudbursting is one solution to all this, along with modularizing the entire architecture to not be affected by one-another. Good architecture would fix Twitter's problems. I worry they don't have the expertise to know what that is though.
- Jesse Stay
Twitter's service doesn't require investment in a massive, distributed computing infrastructure like Google's. Whose does? So they're more vulnerable. Aren't we all? Jess's right, though. If they have the money, they make changes which will make them less vulnerable.
- George Frink
I'm sure if they had an Anycast setup it would help too, which is what makes DNS so robust. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- rob friedman
Computerworld has a report: Security experts scramble to decipher Twitter attack http://www.computerworld.com/s...
- Jay Rosen
Thanks Jay, great description. Here's a key quote from Barett Lyon "They need their own autonomous network, bring in bandwidth from many different providers, and have several layers of security. Building a strong ACL border and a nice mitigation layer would make a lot of sense for a company that is enabling communication."
- Mark Essel
check out the old story frm fistfullofeuros :)- http://fistfulofeuros.net/afoe...
- Peter Dawson
blyon.com http://www.blyon.com/blog... Let’s be fair, hosting the status page away from Twitter’s hosting infrastructure is a very good idea. However, mixing it with 14,476 other hosted sites on the same machine may not be so bright. Those other sites can attract problems. If someone were to hack the group hosted machine...
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- Jay Rosen
Google didn't go down, although their services were attacked. Neither did Facebook, although it was slowed. It's not a matter of black magic; it's how the platform was built and redundancies were addressed -- or not. In the age of cloud computing, where massive scaling is available on Amazon, you'd think that scaling could be addressed. Here, there's a more straightforward issue: a single backbone. A well-designed etwork architecture and layers of redundancy, as Lyon pointed out, are crucial.
- Alex Howard
Single backbone: is that how the Internet is built?
- Jay Rosen
A long, long time ago, perhaps, when the ARPANET first connected the universities. It's still built that way, in many parts of the world. When an undersea cable to Africa was cut recently, there went connectivity.
- Alex Howard
I think twitter started as a skunkworks project and that DNA is still in the engineering culture of the company. Facebook and Google seem to take enterprise architecture seriously, twitter not so much.
- Jim Posner
wouldn't there be an issue anyway even if they did distribute their servers into multiple locations unless they had localised DNS entries to help diffuse traffic away from the initial point of contact (ie whatever runs the cluster namespace at www.twitter.com). But then, DNS is a whole other set of problems... There's a reason why five 9's is the highest availability rate you can ever expect to get ;)
- alphaxion
Twitter's sole vendor for its link to the Internet backbone is NTT Communications. @dsarno spoke to NTT's boss about the attack http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technol...
- Jay Rosen
A note to the developer list. Does not sound good http://groups.google.com/group...
- Jay Rosen
NYT coverage Saturday http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
- Jay Rosen
From the NYTimes story Saturday... Soren Macbeth, founder and chief executive of StockTwits, a service that lets investors trade news and information about companies, said his service, which is built on Twitter’s infrastructure, was offline Thursday and still hadn’t fully recovered Friday. “Having the service be intermittent is almost worse than having it be totally down,” he said. “It...
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- Jay Rosen
With some DNS (and other) tricks it's easy to reroute traffic away from servers getting hit by DDoS attacks, provided of course, that your systems are sufficiently decentralized in the first place. With the 10+ year advantage Google has in growth compared to Twitter, and the size of its network, it's no surprise that they aren't as vulnerable to such an attack. It seems unreasonable to...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Twitter's history of downtime, and issues associated with that, is well documented.
- Alex Hammer
Alex: I've not been a big defender of Twitter (read my past posts), but there's little most any company can do to defend against this sort of attack. There are few companies with the resources and distribution that Google has. Facebook also has a considerably larger network and bank account than Twitter. This is one time when Twitter deserves kudos IMO for keeping things up and running as well as they have.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Twitter has come a long way in such a short period and they should be congradulated for their accomplishments. They do, however, need to continue moving towards higher redundency, and I'm sure they are. DDoS prevention typically happens at the datacenter networking and routing level. Unfortunately, you have to have the whole datacenter on board in preparation for this.
- Adam Reyher
from Alert Thingy
I wonder if we're starting to see the rise of "too big to fall off the tubes". Could you imagine if a sufficiently large enough botnet were to turn to the likes of google, amazon or rackspace... how many companies would lose their ability to do business? How many individuals would lose access to their data?
- alphaxion
Oh no. Everyone took Robert Scoble's advice and unfollowed everybody else and now there is no Twitter!
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Social network implosion.
- George Frink
Daily LOL :)
- Berci Mesko, MD
Ha!
- Mitchell Tsai
Ha ha! Tha'ts very funny, wish I had thought of that!
- Sandra Large
Very good
- Leigh Marriner
Mailplane brings Gmail to your Mac desktop - http://mailplaneapp.com/
Why am I under the impression that I had no trouble configuring direct access via standard Apple Mail?
- George Frink
I totally don't get the comment
- Meryl Steinberg
Oh, I think I see. I was just looking at that b/c someone said it was an indispensable app for them. I don't get it either.
- Meryl Steinberg
For Riri:: A very tame dragonfly...pretty weird, it would not leave her finger! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Hanna Wiszniewska, © D/\\/IIID ℠ ®, Steve C and 8 other people liked this
"For my amazing contact Riri (I call her my little dragonfly whisperer)...take a look at her incredible dragonfly shots, I can't see one without thinking of her!"
- Myrna
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I've had them land on my hand and stay there as long as the might have stayed on the top wire of a fence (where they seemed to love to rest).
- George Frink
Good lord that's a gargantuan dragonfly!
- Kevin Winn
Kevin, yes sure is but beautiful catch here in the pic.
- Myrna
George, any good pics?
- Myrna
If CNET is right http://news.cnet.com/8301-27... and the Twitter attack targeted one user, what is it about Twitter that makes the entire service vulnerable to an action like that?
Jody Raines, Nikos Anagnostou, Nils Sandin and 12 other people liked this
correct me if I am wrong but I say this makes no sense @markng @jayrosen_nyu because the entire of the internet is. You can't discriminate against a particular user on a service using a DoS or DDoS attck
- Jay Rosen
I'm not buying this, but then what the hell do I know.
- Warner Crocker
Attackers do sometimes have bizarre motives. Anger over the removal amid acrimony of a single Internet Relay Chat partition on a single server, for example. If the cost to the attacker(s?) is low, and the out-of-pocket is often close to $0, and if they believe the risk of prosecution is low, then the motive may be and has in the past been as trivial and petty as human motives can become.
- George Frink
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27... Partial explaination of the attack
- frankiecarl
I'M SORRY, this is the link I wanted to send. I realize you already saw the other. This is interesting and very funny actually.http://www.blyon.com/blog...
- frankiecarl
Hosted at the same place than F*ckyeahboobies.com? That would explain why twitter went tits up! :)
- Laurent
Twitter's got real growing pain problems (and probably serious lack of talent & foresight). Luckily FriendFeed is powered by a sharp team with experience at Google. It's one thing to make a "shack in the woods". Another to make an Empire State Building. One of my early projects in 1988 was making a computer system to manage $5 billion in accounts. God forbid we lose any transactions......
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- Mitchell Tsai
Applaud lynching? In Fla? Whose Congressmen helped block passage of anti-lynching law in1922? http://is.gd/25NsJ
- George Frink
Twitter says it's a denial of service attack http://status.twitter.com/ "We are defending against a denial-of-service attack, and will update status again shortly."
Daniel Rowley, metalerik, Patricia Skinner and 21 other people liked this
11:15 est "Update: the site is back up, but we are continuing to defend against and recover from this attack." It is not up for me.
- Jay Rosen
Not up for me either.
- Allyson Kapin
ah-nope.
- Deanna Zandt
I was able to pull up my profile page once, and then it went unreachable again. I'm getting tweets from people I'm subscribed to on FriendFeed, so it looks like the API is still working.
- Josette Torres
Thanks for posting this. I thought the whole world had blocked me!
- Shane Gibson
Still not available.
- John Hood
half of my friendfeed friends are liking this story from about 500 websites, kinda annoying
- Mark
There HAS to be a story behind this denial of service attack.
- Jay Rosen
Happily we have FF to survive these dark times...
- roland legrand
what does this mean?? are all websites susceptible to attack? I'm clearly not geeky enough to know the answers...
- Helene
The search interface redirected me to http://search.twitter.com/... . Very strange. Could this mean that the attack was a flood of searches? I can confirm, no availability via http://twitter.com and API requests are not working either... OH IT'S BACK!
- Ignacio Rodriguez de R,
Helene: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Jay Rosen
I've got it back... for now...
- Jason Barnett
ugh - architecture fail
- mike "glemak" dunn
from iPhone
Twitter is back up for me. Guardian on the attack http://www.guardian.co.uk/technol...
- Jay Rosen
Posts are not forwarding to FF from Twitter at a normal rate.
- Jay Rosen
Jay: At this point, it looks like 4chan is taking credit for the attack: http://ff.im/6fMrU
- Michael Nelson
Expect issues. Massive denial of service attacks don't just dry up. Defeating them is complex and countermeasures have collateral effects..
- George Frink
http://istwitterdown.com/ did not know about this before...
- Jay Rosen
My 3rd party apps are randomly updating their streams but I still cannot successfully post a tweet.
- Neeraj Kumar Agrawal
4chan calls the attack (: http://ff.im/6fMrU ) an exploit. "Denial of service" is the effect and tells us nothing about the nature of the attack. I was angry but bored at first. Now I'm curious. What caused this?
- George Frink
4chan takes credit for everything. I call shenanigans.
- Josette Torres
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+1 josette/shenanigans
- Deanna Zandt
LiveJournal is also under DDoS attack: http://community.livejournal.com/lj_main...
- Josette Torres
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Here's your story (via @davewiner): http://friendfeed.com/badhair... (edited to clean up my linkrot)
- Josette Torres
correct link - http://news.cnet.com/8301-27...
- mike "glemak" dunn
@kylesellers ...and Rush thinks I am a Nazi for a)being a Democrat; and b) calling the shit-stirrers out for what they are.
Rush knows organized intimidation by rightists to disrupt the democratic process at health hearings is by definition fascism. His yells "Nazi" in a cynical attempt to light a backfire.
- George Frink
RT @TeresaKopec: RT @prestonrudie: BREAKING: Additional police have been called to the meeting per our reporter on scene.
.@TeresaKopec Using mob intimidation in a drive to crush the democratic process is fascism: http://tr.im/vNL7
- George Frink
Yay, Sotomayor confirmed!!!!!!
John (a.k.a. dendroica), jcunwired, Aaron Baer and 2 other people liked this
(Clapping)
- Joe
Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrray! she deserved it.
- Mycaptain
She does deserve it, and as we shall see, her legal perspective promises to turn this court back toward the 21st Century.
- George Frink
George, forward :)
- Myrna
AP reported on town hall disruptions, ignored conservative strategy - http://mediamatters.org/researc...
Chronically incomplete Associated Press stories don't inspire anyone to seek to license their work.
- George Frink
The great peacemaker in web culture, the man with a knack for the reasonable middle ground, the George Mitchell of the online world, he's at it again, brokering compromise, which is his style http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technol... @Scoble appears as the wild eyed revolutionary who realized he needed to be civilized and finally become an adult.
Warner Crocker, Pam Baker, Andrew and 6 other people liked this
Like your web haters all in one place? http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs...
- Jay Rosen
Is Twitter down for you people, as well? It is for me this morning; not even a fail whale.
- Jay Rosen
Yes it is
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
Meanwhile, I am just staggered by the gall of Andrew Keen, but it seems that friends and followers, followeees are just taking it all in stride.Wiser than I am, obviously.
- Jay Rosen
"There is a time in any revolution" when the guillotine or like device begins to do its work. Negotiation may seem "attractive" as your head falls.
- George Frink
If I said, "it is time for newspaper curmudgeons and their most extreme critics in new media to sit down and reason with each other," as if I had no role in the transaction, as if history were weightless and meant nothing because it could be erased in a flash, then I certainly hope I would be laughed off the web. But what Keen is doing is more extreme than that because I didn't write a book trashing the world of newspaper curmudgeons for the fat contract Random House held out to me.
- Jay Rosen
Time to talk. Right. It's time to talk about the over-the-moon, hyper-polarizing rhetoric of this ghastly creature.... "Silicon Valley insider and pundit Andrew Keen exposes the grave consequences of today’s new participatory Web 2.0 and reveals how it threatens our values, economy, and ultimately the very innovation and creativity that forms the fabric of American achievement." NOW it's time to talk? What was it time for then? http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog...
- Jay Rosen
He's a troll. Anger is the reasonable response when a troll make pretense at being helpful.
- George Frink
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