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Bret Taylor
FriendFeed API v2: Real-time, OAuth, file attachments, and more - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
FriendFeed API v2: Real-time, OAuth, file attachments, and more
"Today we are launching version 2 of the FriendFeed API for beta testing. We focused on making the API simpler to use, and we added number of compelling new features." Documentation: http://friendfeed.com/api... - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet
OAuth? Sweet. Thanks a lot for all the new good stuff in the API: can't wait to use it. - Mark Trapp
very nice. great work! - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Yet another reason to like Bret. :-) - Jesse Stay
Great!!! - YungSang from FriendFoo
nice! - Daniel Rust
good job guys, I bet devs are jumping high right now - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Sweet, congrats! - Ivan Zuzak
nice, good to see OAuth support, this will enable a larger 3rd party ecosphere around FriendFeed, I hope - Jeroen De Miranda
After going through the documentation and playing around with some feeds, I love the fact that you can now see the subscriber lists of people who have their feeds set to private as long as you are subscribed to them and authenticate (mimicking the main site functionality). One thing that's absent is a discussion of Direct Messages. Do they show up in feeds if you authenticate? How do we find just direct messages? - Mark Trapp
Mark: direct messages are accessed using the feed ID "filter/direct". Read more about feed IDs at http://friendfeed.com/api.... Also direct messages appear in the "home" feed. - Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: ahhh, I see it now. I missed it when skimming that list over. Thanks! - Mark Trapp
Can you post the wget version of the command line? - Gabe
Gabe: wget --user=bgolub --password=passwd --post-file=MyPhoto.jpg http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... should work. In theory. Edit: nope. I'm not sure it's possible to do with wget. - Mark Trapp
Thanks God it is New API. - Ahmet Alp Balkan from iPod
Nice progress here with this release! - Micah
I love it! - friday night
Why is wget questionable? - Gabe
Gabe: wget doesn't support multipart forms as a design decision. If you post a file, FriendFeed returns a 404, and if you post data, the query is too long for wget to handle. - Mark Trapp
cool : ) - Gurkan Oluc
Good work, look forward to seeing what developers can create - Joe Dawson
doublepluslike - Vezquex
curl FTW. - Jeremy Kunz
This is great, FriendFeed team. Good job. - Thierry R. Andriamirado
Woowoo, bgolub's password is “passwd” ;-) - Amit Patel
Amit: I wonder how many people tested that :) - Benjamin Golub
Thanks to bgolub posting his password, I now have all of FriendFeed's secret documents about notorious users, useless metrics, Justin Timberlake's promoting FF on Oprah's show, hiring Colbert as a spokesperson, Ev Williams being just a “distraction”. TechCrunch is going to love this! ;) - Amit Patel
Yes big big thanks to the whole team for all their hard work!! - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ from iPhone
thank you;) waiting for the release :) loving clone - abdellah from FriendFeed API Example
Yay subscribers exposed! - EricaJoy
Finally OAuth, I had a hard time memorizing my remote key. - Hugh Isaacs II
This is indeed very cool, anybody started on a c# version? - Jesper Lind
Joe Hewitt
What would the web look like if each time a developer wanted to change their site, it had to be approved by a committee with a 2 week delay?
Like 1995 when I was trying to upload MBs of data over a 14.4kbps dial-up modem for a website. - John Wang
Like the Apple Store? :) - Ray Cromwell
Please allow 6 to 8 weeks for delivery - Charles Ying
You would be amazed how many large corporations still do this. - dthree
I'm not ignoring the fact that corporations go through a lengthy process to ensure the quality of their products. Of course Facebook does this too, and so do I personally. The point is, we are the ones who are qualified to determine when the app is ready. Apple is just a middleman, and they have a very limited ability to test the quality of our app. - Joe Hewitt
A couple times Apple has caught bugs in our app and notified me of it, but they have also missed huge bugs that went through. The app on the store right now is orders of magnitude more buggy than the one sitting in the review queue. - Joe Hewitt
I can only assume the review process is there for Apple to test compliance with their terms of service, and any bugs they find along the way are incidental. Thank goodness the web doesn't have a terms of service and a review queue. - Joe Hewitt
With 40 apps per day per reviewer, I'm surprised the approval process works as well as it does. - PXLated
Has any other company ever been faced with as many apps in such a short period as Apple - Just curious - PXLated
If we developers always programmed everything to be perfect before releasing it, nothing would ever get released. ; ) - John Wang
it would look like an MMO they release half broken stuff every two weeks like clockwork - Robert Higgins
Sorry, Glen, the context in almost all of my tweets relates to iPhone development :) - Joe Hewitt
Of course, Apple can do whatever they want, and I can go elsewhere. I am making suggestions on how they can improve their flea market and prevent people from going elsewhere. I believe the web has set the precedent that big platforms like the iPhone can thrive even without a centralized quality control bottleneck. - Joe Hewitt
But Joe, the iPhone isn't like the web as a whole - it's more like gaming platforms and probably more open then they are. Will be interesting to see what happens on Android and if in fact it is more open, and if so what kind of chaos may ensue. - PXLated
Are you serious - "prevent people from going elsewhere" - Where? And pass up the iPhone audience/marketplace? Even if Android is a success, developers won't leave iPhone in spite of all the bitching. - PXLated
The iPhone is not a "gaming platform" until they tell me I can't develop anything but a game for it. A significant chunk of iPhone apps, mine included, are basically iPhone-optimized websites written in Objective-C. I admit that I don't see anyone, myself including, abandoning Apple over this issue, but I do believe that the quality of apps on the platform is being hurt by it. Just because other platforms are even more restrictive, like Playstation or some mobile platforms, is not an excuse. - Joe Hewitt
It's not an excuse but none is needed, Apple developed a platform and set the rules just as the gaming platforms did/do. I'm personally not sure the (overall) quality is being hurt either. - PXLated
In fact, maybe Apple should be a lot more restrictive - 65K apps probably confuses the hell out of many users. Maybe they need a rating system and then start eliminating the poorly performing apps. Get it down to a reasonable (best of breed) 5K ;-) - PXLated
"Apple developed a platform and set the rules" - well there's a news flash. I don't think anyone needed to be informed of that. I think Joe's just trying to make the point that centralized control isn't necessary for the good apps to rise to the top. Would you consider the web to be a success if there were 65k sites (please don't get pedantic and point out that sites aren't apps; the argument holds for any reasonable multiplier)? - Joel Webber
"Get it down to a reasonable (best of breed) 5K" - And exactly from what larger pool would you take that best of breed? If the breed's too small, you can't *have* a best-of-breed. The web's an unholy mess, but its size and chaos are precisely what makes it successful. People still manage to find the good stuff. - Joel Webber
It would look like the website where I work.... - Don Schuetze
What would the web look like if a developer could be shut down for an alleged ToS violation? Like FaceBook? - Kevin Marks
That's a lot better than how web applications ship. Please allow a few months before we change it. - Burcu Dogan
Apple is famous to put limitations at the beginning and then drop them ( remember drm?) I am pretty confident that the approval process will be easier and quicker in the near future. - funkyboy from iPhone
You would have [insert any corporate review process here]. For significant changes, this is understandishable. However, it gets insidious when everything looks like a nail ... even if it isn't. - Joe D'Andrea
read it late though, but i would hate it, then maybe web might not be as popular, interesting and powerful - testbeta
Marshall Kirkpatrick
if unclear: RSSCloud will help readers get your blog posts right away, just like RSS lets them get your posts at all.
GReader, if and when it supports RSSCloud, will deliver blog posts to subscribers immediately after they are published if they are published through RSSCloud. - Marshall Kirkpatrick
does that make sense? right now you subscribe to a blog's feed in GReader and GReader checks the RSS feed like once every 30 mins. Depending on the feed, sometimes it only checks once a week if you're the only person subbed to it. With RSSCloud, GReader could act like an Instant Messaging client for you and be told, thus telling you, the moment a new post is available. - Marshall Kirkpatrick
Right -- Google Reader would be instant, like Twitter and FriendFeed are. - Dave Winer
+1 Andy C agree its getting confusing - Kim Landwehr
Ultimately they'll have to decide whether they want to give features to their users. I supported Atom in River2 in less than a day. It won't take them much longer to support rssCloud. - Dave Winer
makes me think that Google owning both the dominant feed publishing service and the dominant feed reading service probably isn't very good for the feed ecosystem. - Marshall Kirkpatrick
Marshall, this gives them the opportunity to prove that it's not a problem. - Dave Winer
Winer makes a good point. Google should support rssCloud so the market decides - Steve Gillmor
The market will decide regardless. Google will be making a mistake by not supporting it. - Jesse Stay
exactly Jesse - Steve Gillmor
@Steve - seriously - when has Google done anything serious beyond its obsession with search based ad placement? - Dennis Howlett
supporting Pubsubhubbub was a good start, rssCloud a good next step - Steve Gillmor
@dahowlett Google does a lot of serious stuff: gmail, google apps for domains (incl enterprise search appliances), deeply serious stuff around power usages/management for their own datacenters (and even more serious BigTable & the other underlying technologies within those datacenters), Google Earth & Maps (incl the massive effort to get Streetview data), Google Books & the scanning... more... - Shannon Clark
Glad to see you pushing Dave - Congrats on getting Matt/Wordpress onboard. - PXLated
I don't understand: why RSSCloud over Pubsubhubbub? You can talk about "choice" and push Google to support RSSCloud, but if there's no real difference between the two, the market can't differentiate and there isn't going to be a real choice. Like right now, I'm asking why didn't Dave Winer and Automattic get on board with Pubsubhubbub? What's the material benefit for pushing RSSCloud instead? - Mark Trapp
Fine. It's the other way around. When they decided to implement realtime feeds, why did they invent something new? RSS already provided for it. Since 2001. So bring this argument to them. Thanks. - Dave Winer
BTW, to be clear, I don't have any issue with the Google guys who did Pubsubhubub, just with arguments like this that get their chronology backwards. - Dave Winer
You didn't really answer the question, Dave. Is there a material difference between Pubsubhubbub and RSSCloud such that RSSCloud is better? Why would I choose RSSCloud over Pubsubhubbub, or vice versa? All I know right now is that there's one standard that's supported by Google, and one that's supported by you and Automattic. Why shouldn't I go with Google's version? It reads like Blu-Ray vs. HD DVD - Mark Trapp
Mark, I stated a few reasons as well here: http://staynalive.com/article... - but frankly, Dave was first. Google's a bigCo. Dave's isn't tied to a bigCo. I think his is more appealing because of that. I'll support both though until I see wider adoption. - Jesse Stay
Guys, we plan to integrate RSS Cloud to Lazyfeed very soon. We've just announced it on our blog: http://blog.lazyfeed.com/2009... Hope people will like it :) - Ethan Gahng
Jesse: Dave's version might've been first, but the one that seems to have gotten wide adoption first was Google's. So when that happened, why fight it? I'm assuming there's a good reason why RSSCloud is better: being technically first doesn't seem like a good enough reason. I do see the part about 24 hour expiry: I'd have to think about that some more. Seems like something easily added to PubSubHubbub, though: and doesn't seem like enough to keep two competing specs alive. - Mark Trapp
rssCloud is a done deal. Mark, you should take your own advice and stop fighting. - Dave Winer
What happened to the Hide command in FriendFeed? This thread is so over, totally needs to be hidden. - Dave Winer
All I'm asking is for some information on why there are two seemingly competing specs and which spec one should one adopt, Dave. If you can't deign yourself to provide that information, by all means ignore or block me: perhaps someone besides you who gets the difference between the two can fill in the rest of us mere mortals on what the concrete differences between the two specs are. - Mark Trapp
Andy, I agree with him - this is a dumb argument. - Jesse Stay
It's not a dumb argument, but one that should be rendered moot by Google supporting rssCloud - Steve Gillmor
Dave, it's right next to Comment, Like, and Share... Hide is the one on the right... no your other right - Chris Heath
Does this mean I won't need Sudar's Post to FriendFeed plugin for WordPress? - Skyler Call
Anyone remembers VHS vs. Betamax? Nowadays willy whacking is sooo last century, isn't it? - Sebastian
wasn't vhx vs betamax settled by the adult film industry? - Chris Heath
Prolly many adult entertainment services have implemented PuSH spreading near real time smut moments before supporting rssCloud. Why miss out on any opportunity? - Sebastian
Regarding Jesse's argument that "Dave was first" is sufficient justification for preferring RSSCloud, it was dead for more than five years and implemented by no one. When he chose to take it out of mothballs, PSHB was implemented by Google and others. His choice to revive RSSCloud has splintered pub-sub support into two efforts and a lot of programmers will now be asked to support both. I'm not clear on the benefit either. - Rogers Cadenhead
Eventually it boils down to wether you reader app implemented enough real-time "clients". An easy option for this is to use Superfeedr, since we have implemented MANY of them... and we push forward the content to your reader. - Julien
Dave Winer
Real-time publishing from a scholarly point of view. http://c.oy.ly/jvv4
Martin Bryant
iPhone usage on Flickr falls dramatically – What’s happening? - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
iPhone usage on Flickr falls dramatically – What’s happening?
"Only three weeks ago the iPhone was on course to become the most popular camera on Flickr. It had been just below the Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi for several weeks but now iPhone usage on Flickr, as measured by Flickr’s own data, has started to fall off dramatically." - Martin Bryant from Bookmarklet
Anyway I don't see any smartphone competitor around. It's just dslr cameras. Maybe people are just posting more pics about their summer holidays where they brought their "heavy" cameras. - ialla from iPhone
ialla - No, I've just updated the post with another graph. Other cameraphones remain steady. - Martin Bryant
So it couldn't just be a spike? Looking at the almost vertical increase on the left hand side of the red line. - Johnny
As I put in the post, it could be the 3GS novelty factor wearing off. - Martin Bryant
I wonder if this coincides with the release of the improved Facebook app for iPhone - since it's release I have begun to post more photos to facebook than flickr - Shauns from iPhone
agree w/Shauns - i am seeing more iphone/mobile uploads on fb - moreover fb lite does not support posts from flickr/imported sites, so if you want to share the pics there you have to upload them to fb - Barbara R. S.
Shauns has a valid point. i think this is probably the main reason - Ouriel Ohayon
published some extra thoughts here. I believe the reasons are mainly facebook, twitter and...youtube http://blog.appsfire.com/the-iph... - Ouriel Ohayon
I see a lot more mobile photos on twitpic, mobypic, etc. Also, they lump ALL iphones together while they don't do that for any other manufacturer so I don't really trust that graph. - dthree
Louis Gray
Oh, RSS Is Definitely Dead Now: Feedburner CEO Dick Costolo To Become Twitter COO - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
RSS is exactly as dead as HTTP, which is to say not at all. - Stephen Mack
Stephen, you know where I stand on this. The news to me is Dick moving to Twitter in his new role. - Louis Gray
Louis, yup, I should have made it clear I was speaking to the author of that headline, not to you. ;) - Stephen Mack from iPhone
I hate the RSS is Dead talk, IF RSS would to die the very same blogs using RSS to find & report news would no longer exist. - Wayne Sutton
Wayne: when a blogger says something is "dead" they just mean it isn't interesting anymore. Do we talk about TCP/IP? No. Hence it's dead too. - Robert Scoble
Scoble is dead. - Louis Gray
Scoble understood, but does the average non "geek" understand that? nope - Wayne Sutton
Robert and I get along fine. I was teasing him and seeing if he would react in real-time. - Louis Gray
I love Robert Scoble - Wayne Sutton from iPhone
Email is dead. - Chieze Okoye
Death is dead. - Stephen Mack
Talking is dead. - Chieze Okoye
can commenting on "rss is dead" syndicated posts also be dead? pls? kthxbai. - Jenna Bilotta
complaining about comments in "rss is dead" threads is ... - John Hardy
I get that people find things via Twitter and FF, but what if you want to see every post from somewhere? I want to follow all the mashable, TC, giz, engadget etc posts-and there is no better way to do that than RSS - Mitchell Hislop
RSS is now 'built-in' to Samsung Series 9 HDTV's http://bit.ly/Rn0wC - Any good protocol runs silently in the background (via Dave http://bit.ly/22FNkA ) - Stephen Edgar
Bahaeddin [ MacinLife ]
If my love don't buy this cufflinks for valentines day, i wont marry with her. Sevgilim evlenmeden onceki son sevgililer gununde bundan yaptirmassa ben o kizla evlenmem...
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WANT! Where can these beauties be purchased from?!? - Andrew Terry
:) i dont know, I saved this picutures for my Macholic archive - Bahaeddin [ MacinLife ]
Çook güzel :) - Buğra Bayrak
aslinta getircen satacan bunlardan APR larda - Bahaeddin [ MacinLife ]
Takım elbise giymeme daha çok var :) - Can Devecioğlu
sen simdiden al sonra takarsin:) - Bahaeddin [ MacinLife ]
ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
"Services to translate, search, encode, calculate, convert… and much more!" - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ from Bookmarklet
$25! You can buy an entire OS for that price. I could do all of the those services myself with automator. - Paul Grav
:) Didn't buy it either, posted as inspiration to other SL users. - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
Joshua Schnell
Four Finger Trackpad Motions Back-Ported to Pre-Unibody Macs - http://www.macgasm.net/2009...
Four Finger Trackpad Motions Back-Ported to Pre-Unibody Macs
"To make sure these features are turned on, you can go to the Trackpad pane in System Preferences." - Joshua Schnell from Bookmarklet
I dont have it on mine :( - Simon Wicks
Simon, that's weird. I have it on mine. Anyone else not have the option? - Joshua Schnell
My Mac's prolly just those few months too old. 2.2 Intel Core 2 Duo, year and 9 months old. - Simon Wicks
Nope. Black 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo, here. - The original Kevin
not just mine then, dont feel quite as bad now :) - Simon Wicks
There must be a hack somewhere for me to enable it. i remember having 2 finger gentures hacked onto my iBook so i could scroll like the Macbook does. - Simon Wicks
i'm pretty sure there is, someone mentioned hacking a ktext file to get access to it before. - Joshua Schnell
*hunts* - Simon Wicks
Bret Taylor
I really love following Joe Hewitt (http://friendfeed.com/joehewi...) discuss developing the Facebook iPhone app so openly on Facebook, Twitter, and FriendFeed (and open sourcing most of it at the same time). Sets a really high standard for transparency in product development. I hope more companies follow his example.
Bret, the gang at FriendFeed do a good job as well. After consistently banging my head against Google's "Wall of Silence" the content here is incredibly refreshing. Thanks!! - Chris Myles
This is what I exactly want to do. But, usually the next release is a top secret for many of the companies and it's very stressful to write even the concepts you are working on. - Burcu Dogan
I think most people would prefer to work this way, but it is worth noting how difficult that can be at a large, well-known company: individuals, the press and Wall St are trying to read something into every little thing you say or do, there are SEC rules to worry about, and so forth. I feel lucky that I work mostly on open source stuff at Google, so this doesn't affect me most of the time. - Joel Webber
Joel, I do understand the bigger issues at Google, I'm referring more to the product and support side. I've been getting some VERY bad vibes from other users and developers in the forums for Blogger, GFC, Picasa, Maps etc and their APIs. I've actually had people tell me to stop asking questions about GFC because no one from Google responds. Here I get the exact opposite feeling, from... more... - Chris Myles
chrismyles: some of the issues are cultural and others are technical. google support discussions used to be mailing lists, and wading through so many messages is time consuming. since moving to their forum system, the level of responses have improved somewhat and it seems the staff is better able to pick out topics to reply. the friendfeed platform is even better, and allows topics the community thinks are important to receive a higher priority. - Mike Chelen from IM
Mike, I guess we'll have to see.. What I love about FF is it makes it easier for ME to keep track of all my discussions in a single spot. Google's new support discussions require me to visit each group independently; there is no central location where I can monitor all my questions. It might be easier for Google but it's harder for me.. If only they all used friendfeed!! - Chris Myles
So Bret, what do you think of the resulting app? Now you've got even more reasons to be interested!! - Chris Myles
Chris: indeed those are the sort of technical or design capabilities that can restrict or enhance the effectiveness for users of a platform. both google and friendfeed have dedicated and skilled staff, yet here they are more able to communicate efficiently with relatively greater numbers of people. - Mike Chelen
Dave Winer
My one sentence review of the Facebook iPhone app. http://c.oy.ly/kegx
Dave, you know that the iPhone has a built in screenshot utility right? =P What did you use to take that pic? - travispuk from iPhone
yeah it's homebutton+lockbutton - takes a nice crisp png - Chris Heath
I totally agree Dave. this is the iPhone Facebook app i've been waiting for. and I had no idea about the iphone's built in screenshots thingy! thanks! (Although I would still like to know what Dave used in his post) - Jamie Mack from BuddyFeed
By the looks of the quality of the shot it must have been another iPhone ;). @Chris, it is the other way around right, hold down the lock button then press the home button? - travispuk from iPhone
i usually press them both at the same time... but yeah prob pressing lock first does the trick although it doesn't really matter if you hold down home it won't go to the home screen until you let go - Chris Heath
Louis Gray
FYI - The Ten People to Follow on FriendFeed Monthly Feature is Suspended, Failing Future Announcements.
Given the changeover to Facebook, Mike and I have talked and decided we will let the community shake out before we think about continuing to build it more. - Louis Gray
Uh oh. - Akiva
Mike and I are champions of what has been built here, but we are going to be watching the changes closely to see if it makes sense to continue investing the efforts we have each month. Hoping something comes to change our mind and returning to normal, but we're being realistic. - Louis Gray
Yep. - Louis Gray
this may sound stupid....keep in mind im new to FriendFeed...but what is the ten to follow on FriendFeed monthly Feature....? - Marissa
Well, if nothing else, I just realized that I wasn't subscribed to Mike. So that's something, I guess. - Akiva
Louis, what are your secret plans and your roadmap? I'm super intrigued by your desktop at this moment. - Jimminy, CoG of FF
whoa... now it's getting serious. - michael sean wright
oh. okay. thank you. =]] - Marissa
It was a great run. I agree with Louis, until we have a clear understanding of what the future has in store for FriendFeed, it's not beneficial to anyone to keep the list going. - Mike Fruchter
Akiva, same here. It was never on purpose though :-) - Mike Fruchter
Jason, I think that we have been reassured that the site will be kept alive. We have been encouraged by the recent introductions. But the last two videos have been more disconcerting, talking more about FB, and showing less clarity into plans. So I think it is safe to assume, until we hear otherwise, that the bulk of work will be for the site with millions of users. There has been no official update from the team yet, so we'll wait cautiously. - Louis Gray
Until then, consider this a "feature freeze" on our behalf until we get word from higher up that the project is still a priority. - Louis Gray
I don't think Louis is loosing faith. I think he is just realistic.He is not abandoning the site he championed the masses so hard for. It's a simple "feature freeze". Personally, I'm optimistic but also very cautious about the future of this site. Lets see what happens. *Hopefully* Facebook will make a public announcement at some point, the question is when? The fact that they have not, two weeks after the acquisition, makes you really wonder what their plans are for FriendFeed. Time will tell. - Mike Fruchter
So 10 to follow in Google Reader coming next? - MaryAnn Chick Whiteside
MaryAnn, that would be an interesting thing. I believe some of the best Google Reader sharers are here on FriendFeed. :) - Louis Gray
Much easier to see the whole list here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub... Hopefully you won't take that spreadsheet offline, as I am using it for some research and it does have some merit beyond friendfeed. - April
April, I would never take that doc offline. I don't even think I am the owner. :) - Louis Gray
ANDREA YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY ONE OF MY FAVORITES AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT. - Louis Gray
I think the list could be kept going, but expanded in other directions to include more than just friendfeed, so anyone added to the list, it would also give info on how to follow them elsewhere, like twitter, facebook, Google Reader and other sites...not just friendfeed. This way, the list continues to be of value, no matter what happens. I believe that anyone that made that list for... more... - April
here comes the Facebook changes - sucks! - Mekkar
April - is that list up to date? (I vainly checked for my name and didn't see it :) ) - Jeff (Team マクダジ )
Wow. That comes as quite a shock. - Derrick
Louis, Mike, maybe just switch over to a monthly list of what order we should start unsubscribing. <--- Being cheeky, but it gave me a serious thought: List of of people to follow in other contexts—those who are FF alumni (whether active on posterous, greader, or what have you). Just a thought. :) - Micah
@Jeff I think June may have been the last time it was updated. - April
"Ten People to Befriend on Facebook (If They Accept your Friend Request)" - bleh - Ahsan Ali
[sad face] I realise you are adopting a very prudent "wait and see" policy but this still feels like the beginning of the end. Or the end of the beginning of the end. It's almost more shocking than the FB announcement itself. I shall have to ponder this further. - WoH: Minding her Steves
Interesting move. - Kol Tregaskes
Perhaps the any new top 10 should be posted on All Wordy and Junk? :-) - Kol Tregaskes
That would be one option, Kol, and a good one. - Louis Gray
Bummer, but it is a pragmatic decision for the two of you to make. - DGentry
I guess I can suspend my devious plan to send massive bribes to Mike Fruchter, then. He probably wouldn't have taken it, anyway. - DGentry
sad, but probably a good decision as well. It would be great to keep FF as its own domain, but without any information coming out, it is difficult to commit to FF as a social network, or spend a lot of time on the site. - Dan owns Comicsforge.com
Damn! And I thought I was next!! - Dave Hodson
that's too bad... i wonder if you guys have some inside info on FF's future? I just spent the last week on Facebook instead of here - to get used to it. and it sucked. sucked a lot. - andy brudtkuhl
DO ANYBODY NO WHY MAFIA WARS IZ POKING ME? I SCARED - Richard Walker
Dave Winer
How to fix URL-shorteners, part II (Scripting News). http://c.oy.ly/kb4e
Louis Gray
Real time comments will piss off pro bloggers (at first) - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
arjo
A couple of Pictures from my noserub.com site I run now on my own server. I actually like it. It feels a bit like Friendfeed v1.0
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Been thinking that it wouldn't really be all that hard to change the template to bring comments inline, etc. which would make it a whole lot more like Friendfeed. Since FF doesn't do OMB, some heavy plugin/API action will be needed for true integration with FF :-/ Plugins apparently aren't "supported" yet, but CakePHP has a plugin framework, so perhaps it is not impossible... ? - Jason Wehmhoener
Dirk, it's possible to post likes and comments to Friendfeed using the API. - Jason Wehmhoener
True, good point. - Jason Wehmhoener
It's too bad Friendfeed doesn't support OpenID. They do support Google, Twitter and Facebook logins, but it's still not really "open". It's probably a pretty safe bet though that anyone who is microblogging is going to have one of those IDs though right? - Jason Wehmhoener
That is really nice. Hey Friendfeed, can you please play along? :-) - Jason Wehmhoener
There seems to be a bug in the Twitter feed importing code. - Tyson Key
David Chartier
Stir - All of FriendFeed in your pocket | Structlab - http://structlab.com/iphone...
Stir - All of FriendFeed in your pocket | Structlab
Wow, seems incredibly feature-packed and polished. View posts based on geotagging or specific services like YouTube? Looks delicious, can't wait to give it a whirl on the train soon. - David Chartier from Bookmarklet
Sorry for the multi-posts everyone, juggling too much and not paying attention this afternoon. I think I cleaned it all up. That said: Stir is pretty nice so far. Scrolls like butter. - David Chartier
Hey, i'm the author of Stir. Glad you like it! Please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any suggestions or requests :) - Aaron Brethorst
Please keep us posted on your tests. I've been searching FF to see if anyone was checking it out. - metalerik
Installed and playing with it now. Really liking this, top work Aaron. - Keith Bennett
Thanks, Keith! In all seriousness, comments like yours make the four months I spent writing it worthwhile. Also, to everyone who has purchased it: please help me out by leaving a review for it in the AppStore :) Exposing it to more people generates more revenue which lets me spend more time adding new features to it (like support for direct messages, real time support, and so on) - Aaron Brethorst
What you mean it doesn't do dm or real time??? Well in that case.... Only joking. I'll add a review for the UK store later. In all seriousness, this is a really cool app. It's looking like my default FF app from now on. - Keith Bennett
thanks again, Keith :) So, the backstory on DM is that this wasn't even supported for third party apps until the release of FF's v2.0 APIs, which only happened a few weeks ago. By then, I was in to final testing of my app, and didn't want to switch over to a new API version or figure out how to shoehorn in a feature I hadn't originally planned on. As far as real-time goes, I spent a lot... more... - Aaron Brethorst
Good to hear mate, always a difficult decision about when to release something I guess. Keep adding those features. Any chance of an option to send something to twitter in the same way you can with the send to facebook? - Keith Bennett
Also, any chance of setting up a support/feature request group here on FF? - Keith Bennett
Twitter's on the list of things to support :) You can find the discussion group here at http://friendfeed.com/stirapp - Aaron Brethorst
Cheers, will post my requests in there. - Keith Bennett
I already have BuddyFeed which is a pretty decent app. I'll be downloading Stir too. I prefer the FriendFeed service to any other Social Networking destination but have to admit that, especially from the point of view of posting, I use Twitter more. The explanation is simple, superb third party iPhone apps, especially TwittelatorPro which is really best of breed. If Twitter wasn't served so well by the likes of TP then I'd hardly use it at all. Best of luck with this new application. - JSLeFanu
Looks cool, gonna check it out now :-) - Jalada
Yawn, yet another boring iphone app. - Richard A.
wish someone would make the blackberry app... - Richard Reeve
Kudos Aaron. I'm using Stir to post this reply, and I'm really, really liking the app. It's well designed, has pretty much all the FF features (and those it doesn't have look like they'll be coming soon), and it's rock solid. BuddyFeed is good, Stir is way better! - Brad Brooks
Thanks, Brad. I'm glad you like it. If you have a spare minute, please leave a review on the AppStore :) - Aaron Brethorst
Awesome, finally another FF app to try! I like BuddyFeed, but it seems like the dev isn't going to update it anymore. That the Stir dev seems active here, fielding questions and requests, is promising. Thanks for posting about it here. - Cheryl Jones
I've posted a review on the AppStore (UK), Aaron. It should be up soon :) - Brad Brooks
@Brad: Unless your review gets rejected for objectionable content or something. ;) - David Chartier
@David: Well, you never know with the AppStore reviewers :D - Brad Brooks
I'm finally starting to use my FriendFeed account now that there is a decent iPhone App available. - Justin Stevens
Got it yesterday (after reading it here). So far so good. Very good FF client for the iPhone! - Peter van Teeseling
@justin, @peter - thank you both :) - Aaron Brethorst
I've bought buddyfeed, but I still buy stir, it's much better. I like it. - pastas9
Seems awesome bit buggy. For enchance, everytime I hit load more it just adds the first batch of updates again with no older updates. Way better features and interface than any of the alternatives though! Will try it again later, maybe the FF API was freacking our with it. - Chris White from FreshFeed
Weird, works fine - Chris White
Whoops, sorry. Works fine on every feed but everything. It doesn't just not add more either, it addsthe same items already loaded below the current items - Chris White
Chris- can you follow up with me at support@structlab.com? I'd like to better understand what you're seeing. - Aaron Brethorst
I just downloaded this app. It replaced FreshFeed as my FriendFeed iPhone app. - Chris Martin
I really like the UI, but so far it has crashed the three times I've tried using it (once while trying to leave a comment). FreshFeed is a bit more stable, but I just left a comment that got truncated (with no warning from the app). :P - Cheryl Jones
I've been using amigo for the last few months. how does stir stack up against that app? - David Miller
Cheryl, Justin - please follow up with me at support@structlab.com. I'd like understand what seems quirky in the ui and get to the bottom of those crashes. - Aaron Brethorst
I downloaded it, and understandably it's a 1.0 release, but I'm regretting the purchase immediately: the menu system is unintuitive. Clicking on my name doesn't bring up my feed, it brings up my home feed. Clicking the Everyone link brings up the public feed instead of people I'm subscribed to: why is the public feed the top link? There's no link to my discussions page, my likes page,... more... - Mark Trapp
Hi Mark - 'My Discussions' is coming in the next release. Likes and comments can—for the time being—be found through saved searches. Direct messages weren't supported through the FriendFeed API until v2.0, which was released about 4 days before I submitted Stir to Apple. Same thing with Best of Day and OAuth. Can you tell me what you mean by inline commenting? Hide exists; try swiping a... more... - Aaron Brethorst
Aaron - another missing item, or item I've not found yet, is the groups I'm a member of. That and my discussions are two big misses I think. Like others, I enjoy the UI a lot - Patrick Jordan
got 1 on mine 2 - daveccorey
Hey Patrick - groups are supported from the main page. Choose the Groups item and you should be good to go. - Aaron Brethorst
"all groups," actually. - Aaron Brethorst
This is an excellent app! Far superior to what I've been using. - David Miller
@Aaron: I'll try to use Stir more and see if there's a pattern to the crashes, but so far it has seemed random. - Cheryl Jones
Cant find it at US AppStore :( - Kfir Pravda from iPhone
Kol Tregaskes
Please join the CloneFeed group here: http://friendfeed.com/openff and get involved in the discussions and development of a new service for us FriendFeeders.
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We'd like as many of you as possible to join in as, of course, it's going to be a service for you guys. Please join here: http://friendfeed.com/openff Note the group's name is not what the service is called, it's merely a group name. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
I thought Louis and Johnny already had it fully specced out: http://friendfeed.com/louisgr... - Bruce Lewis
You now I'm just going to bump this over and over - first bump here. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
There is also a Google Group here: http://groups.google.com/group... - Kol Tregaskes
this title always makes me think of a CLOVERFEED :) - Yunus Tunak
Bump again. - Kol Tregaskes
one more :-) - zsafwan 
Bumped 'cos of dup. - Kol Tregaskes
Is it http://friendfeed.com/openFF now rather than clonefeed? - Wang Yip
Yep, we changed it the other day. Edited above. Thanks. - Kol Tregaskes
Missed the comment, done that too now. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Louis Gray
Hi, Google Reader Team! You Rule. - http://www.google.com/reader...
I'm taking the plunge. Here's my redirect to my google reader: http://wittman.org/share - Micah
Hi, Louis! - Jenna Bilotta
Jenna made a bundle with a bunch of our feeds, for super-easy stalking: http://www.google.com/reader... :) - Mihai Parparita
Ian Betteridge
Oooh - Amazon has the Sennheiser mm50ip headphones for iPhone down to £21.99. They're the ones I use and recommend. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp...
Ian Betteridge
@mathewi FriendFeed users being snobby about how cool their service is? Who'd a thunk it, eh? :)
Ralf Rottmann
New highly experimental #Dropbox build (0.7.2) adds LAN Syncing, new Finder/Explorer toolbar and performance increases. - http://forums.getdropbox.com/topic...
New highly experimental #Dropbox build (0.7.2) adds LAN Syncing, new Finder/Explorer toolbar and performance increases.
LAN sync on Dropbox looks very clever. - Bernie Goldbach
Robert Scoble
See, a lot of people don't understand how powerful FriendFeed is as a Twitter client. It has better groups. Better search. Better block. etc
It just doesn't have all my twitter friends, unless there's a way I can add folks who aren't already here. Is there? - Sam Grover
You can NOT create a need, Robert - directeur
I know about that. Is there a way to automatically add those that aren't already here? - Sam Grover
Calling FriendFeed a twitter client is a bit inaccurate. It can post to twitter and you can read people's toots and reply, but you can't do many of the things that an actual Twitter client (star messages, send and receive DMs, follow/unfollow easily, etc.) I'm not complaining because I don't want FriendFeed to be a full-blown Twitter client- just saying :) - Brett Kelly
In all fairness FriendFeed has made it as simple as pie for people on Twitter to easily sign in/up with Twitter OAUTH. I just think my Twitter network are brave enough to make new friends :-P - CannonGod
Yea, since FriendFeed has the twitter firehose, I would like to have a simple way to add all the people I'm following. That may still not work for protected twitter feeds. - Sam Grover
That's the truth. I admit, I certainly don't. But I don't see it as Twitter client. - nicky jameson
No way to add someone's twitter if it is a protected feed. That's where imaginary friend fails. - Nick B.
@Nick example? - Sebastian
Add your account or a list to this search ( http://friendfeed.com/search... )and the pop out makes a GREAT twitter app. I have a list called Twitter that I made of people I want to keep up with. - Sullivan
Where could I read more about Groups? Did they call it "room" in the past? Best practices and cases? Could it be used as a customer forum and member place? - Martin Lindeskog
I totally agree scoble! i dont use tweetdeck or seesmic as my twitter client.. i use friendfeed! i read most tweets on twitter from my friendfeed page.. the lists of users here are the best! - Jason Pollock
Enough already, Rob! You've sold me on FriendFeed! - Thomas Ward
I hardly visit Twitter anymore - I just sync up my followers every couple of weeks - Anthony Feint
I like that it has more than 140 character, comments and easy importation of fb and twitter friends. - momonalona
I do just about everything in friendfeed now. I still use twitter, but I don’t watch it anymore. I still need to implement lists here. I could use some advice on the best way to go about it. I just want the time I spend here to me more productive than it is right now. I’m hoping a little organization will help with it. - Michael Fidler
@sebastian - create imaginary friend - "starsparkle". Then add the twitter account starsparkle to it = "we could not find the give account". RSS feed is available but password protected - suggestions welcome! - Nick B.
@Nick Yep, 401, http://twitter.com/statuse... doesn't reveal its contents to the public. Thanks. - Sebastian
better everything - andy brudtkuhl
sebastian☆rocket brother
FreeAppAlert Notifies You When For-Pay iPhone Apps Become Free - Free - Lifehacker - http://lifehacker.com/5323361...
FreeAppAlert Notifies You When For-Pay iPhone Apps Become Free - Free - Lifehacker
Great site design. The mouse rollover pics of apps are very nice . - sebastian☆rocket brother
This is a handy site! - Michael Fidler
AppReview for iPhone also does this - Todd Bouey from iPhone
Thanks Todd. I'll check it out! - sebastian☆rocket brother
Clark, definitely! Some sort or recommendation or usage stats/reviews would be great. - sebastian☆rocket brother
How quickly does it update? I've seen the App Sniper app do a similar thing but failed to update in a timely manner. - CannonGod from BuddyFeed
I'm not sure, but I have it set as an RSS feed on my iPhone and I get new updates everyday. Some of them are "Today Only" sale so I'd assume it's pretty quick. - sebastian☆rocket brother
Joshua
Testing out a few new apps to see how it helps my workflow on my Mac: Hazel, Spirited Away, Pathfinder, Google Notifier, & TinyAlarm. Share apps that help speed up your workflow.
Things is always good when you need to sort stuff out. - h1ro
hazel is really great tool but for 21+ bucks a little expensive - matjeka
I love hazel. Does all the boring chores and cleaning on my computer so I don´t have to. You can make great customized rules as well. Recommended. - Terje Mikal Espedal
Joshua - Here are all of the different Mac apps that I use: http://mikebracco.com/mac-sof... - Mike Bracco
I haven't heard of Hazel before, but I know PathFinder is VERY useful :) - CannonGod from BuddyFeed
Overflow is all I need - Outsanity
check out dropzone as well. - Joshua Schnell
SizeUp is great for quickly moving windows around with the keyboard - one of favourite utilities. SpanningSync was also handy until I gave in to MobileMe. - Jules from iPhone
Mike Bracco
NewsGator Consumer RSS Reader Product Changes & Google Sync- In response to customer demand, NewsGator's best-of-breed consumer RSS applications now work with Google Reader. Google Reader will become the online companion to, and the synchronization platform for NewsGator's RSS reader applications. - http://blogs.newsgator.com/daily...
NewsGator Consumer RSS Reader Product Changes & Google Sync- In response to customer demand, NewsGator's best-of-breed consumer RSS applications now work with Google Reader. Google Reader will become the online companion to, and the synchronization platform for NewsGator's RSS reader applications.
Consolidation everywhere.... - Liza + = ?
So basically NewsGator is canceling their own RSS management products and simply becoming an interface for Google reader if I'm understanding this correctly. - Mike Bracco
I've used FeedDemon for a long time and it was very convenient to store all feeds at NewsGator the only problem was it wasn't possible to share data like in google reader. Now FeedDemon supports Google reader so I moved my feeds to Google reader and still watch them throw FeedDemon. Amazing :) - Kaspar Minosiants
My memory of FeedDemon (when it was in pre-release beta) was that it kicked ass as a feed reader. But, one I started using Google Reader I never really saw the value in going back to a desktop client. - Bill Rawlinson
No Share (or Like) in NetNewsWire yet, though (and a buggy feed import). So I'll stick with Google Reader for now. - Jules from iPhone
Except for the potential for off-line viewing, I don't "get" desktop RSS clients compared to using Google Reader. And as far as off-line, can gReader use Gears? I have no real need, so I have no idea. - Vince DeGeorge
It is much more convinient to read & manage feeds in FeedDemon than in GReader at least for me. - Kaspar Minosiants
Mashable
Foursquare: Why It May Be the Next Twitter - http://mashable.com/2009...
If it is I would be very shocked. But many of the same San Francisco "cool kids" who got me into Twitter are using Four Square. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Maybe if it was available everywhere. It's only useful if it becomes mass adopted and is available in every city - large and small. - Mike Bracco
On the other hand the article is astute. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Mike: I agree with you. Everytime I try to check in it reminds me I am not in an official place. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
I've been trying to check in to Foursquare for the past two hours and it's not working. That's a huge aversion to making me want to use the app. - Derrick
I love Foursquare. Sometimes it's slow on 3G, but they can fix those problems. - Eric Florenzano
Mike: I totally agree. I would accept it only if most of my friends were using it and it is has been adopted by many of the big names. - wiredgnome from iPod
If Facebook bought Foursquare or provided the same type of service - then that would be really cool! No one wants another platform. It's Facebook, Twitter (and hopefully FF). I don't give much hope to anyone else at this point who is trying to build an app based on mass adoption. In my mind, Facebook is the new Microsoft. It is the next generation OS in a way - one that revolves around connection with others. Like the traditional OS market has shown, only two players can really be viable. - Mike Bracco
No listings for Toronto? Fail. - Andrew Currie
Is Friendfeed still the next Twitter? - Andre P. Siregar
Speaking personally, Facebook has been great for connecting with people I know, while Twitter has been great for connecting with strangers/biz contacts (some of whom I've ended up moving into my Facebook line-up). I work at home and so many of the people I mingle with regularly live inside my computer, and I've wished for a while for a widely-adopted platform that would allow my online... more... - Lisa Norman
They'll have to add more European Countries than just Amsterdam - it's pretty useless to me in the UK right now - Rob Bell
metalerik
iPhone Nano Confirmed In New Apple Patent - iphone nano - Gizmodo - http://gizmodo.com/5325863...
iPhone Nano Confirmed In New Apple Patent - iphone nano - Gizmodo
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"A new Apple patent has revealed what many thought unthinkable: The fabled iPhone nano. Of course, patents don't always result in products, so don't hold your breath. According to the patent, the device has two screens." - metalerik from Bookmarklet
uhohhhh, the page was pulled: 'You were redirected to our front page because the URL you requested is unavailable. Please try again later.' - metalerik
next up... iPhone Shuffle, will call or text from your address book randomly ;-) - Adriano
there's (already) an app for that! ;) - metalerik
Leo Laporte
I just love the new Friendfeed Grasslands theme - with its puffly little clouds floating by. Thanks Brett! http://friendfeed.com/setting...
So kewl :-) - Aussie_Camper from Alert Thingy
I've been shooting ducks for a day now. I think it's time for a change. I think I'll give grasslands a try. - Michael Fidler from BuddyFeed
Thats whats I use - Amit Morson
I too use this theme. It's total Friendfeed tranquility. - Eric Geller from iPod
Right there. Grass theme is the current winner. Clouds make me a little dizzy though :) - Charlie Anzman
The tranquility offsets the blazing speed of page updates... it's all about balance here on FriendFeed! - Dean "Karnatos" Michaud
The theme is great. Makes the gray osx a little happier :) - Anton
me too. easily best theme. i continually realize visually that i am not working, but swinging the virtual hammock - Peter Nõu
Watch out! I think I saw something moving in the grass! - Chris Gardner
Raptor??? - Roberto Bonini
Nice, makes it feel like summertime in here!!! - Richard Bitting
Mentioned yesterday that I kinda wish the duck hunt theme would look a bit like the Grasslands theme. Until then, I use the Grasslands theme. - Matthew Horton
I like the purple one with flowers. - MicahBear78
Grasslands is nice I am also using it. Sometimes hard to click things behind the grass though. I got my right column fixed with a user script and now I can't click all my saved searches. But I go my self to blame so not a problem... But would be nice if the grass moved out of the way from my pointer ;) - Jesper Lind
Loving the grasslands theme, too. Definitely the best of the bunch. A little slice of the beautiful outdoors while stuck inside staring at a computer. - Irene Koehler
Sam Pullara
looks like the iphone just crossed the 'most popular camera on flickr' line: http://www.flickr.com/cameras/
What's more important on Flickr, quality or quantity? I vote quality, so I see this as a bad sign. - Mr Saturday Morning NFG
So you think someone cannot create a piece of art with a cell phone? A good work man doesn't blame his tools. - Mark
Someone needs to say "told you so" or "touché" or something similar now. - Mark
not exactly my point. obviously someone with an eye for photography can make art with any camera. when walmart became the most popular retail store on the face of the planet, did we all stop and go "yay"? - Mr Saturday Morning NFG
I am not much into photography but I think It is much easier to take a photo with cellphone such as Iphone and as always readily available. It is just like Cellphone GPS replacing GPS only devices. - Ashish
David- often it becomes true that only with quantity will you get quality. Anyone with an 'eye for photography' will tell you that they take a massive amount of photos for that 'one'. - Alyx
I understand that, I shoot probably 500 shots, if not more, for every one that I post on Flickr. It's the mass-produced bad glass in the hands of millions of sheep taking over my favorite social media site that bothers me <dons flame retardant suit>. In one sense, I guess we could look at it like photography's version of the lo-fi music movement. Certainly, plenty of great things have come out of that. But that's what Holga's and Diana's are for... only time will tell. - Mr Saturday Morning NFG
Come on, lets not be snobby and turn photography into high-art like Opera which people are terrified of. It's not up to us to tell people they cannot upload their photos to Flickr unless they are good enough to publish or something. - Mark
David-- BTW not meaning to flame. In some respects I agree with you, but more as a comment on Flickr in general. To say (imply/infer?) that the iPhone will degrade the quality I find ironic. It takes much searching sometimes to find "quality" on Flickr. Although- I recall not too long ago the 'artists' decrying digital photography. And I am sure we can also go back and hear large format decry 35mm. :) In other words let us recognize the 'quality' no matter where it comes from. - Alyx
Also I think we need to encourage more phone cam users to use flickr- imagine the historic value that could be attained. Iran elections as prime example us wanting/needing "quantity". - Alyx
Fred Wilson
Why Comments Matter - http://www.avc.com/a_vc...
I could like this post multiple times, Fred. Comments do matter a great deal. - Valeria Maltoni
here is a comment then... - NoahDavidSimon
If it isn't conversational, it really isn't social media, it seems to me. - shelisrael1
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