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There's a reason I follow 100,000 on Twitter and 25,000 on friendfeed: I get to see patterns no one else is seeing. Here's some:
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I saw the Chinese earthquake while it was happening. 45 minutes before CNN.
- Robert Scoble
I see that Bing is gaining steam today.
- Robert Scoble
I saw that people were frustrated on Saturday with CNN.
- Robert Scoble
The Matrix?
- Matthew DeVries
Matthew: in a way, yes.
- Robert Scoble
I see new software, services, ideas before most other people.
- Robert Scoble
How do you deal with the noise?
- Kevin Lim
How do you filter out all the noise? I find myself constantly unfollowing people to make Twitter more relevant.
- Michelle
I've noticed this effect in just following 40 or 50 more people on Twitter.
- Bill Kinney
And I get to see how they react to news, like Opera's new browser this morning.
- Robert Scoble
The Robert Scoble version of "Google Earth"
- Pete Blackshaw
Big Brother style
- Richard Lai
So that's like "Scoble trends" :) Like Twitter trends, but for emerging events.
- Kirill Petrovsky
Jinx.
- Michelle
Michelle: noise is like the lawn. It lets you see the flowers.
- Robert Scoble
So effectively you start a topic on Twitter, and then use friendfeed as a chat room?
- Richard Lai
i follow almost 60,000 on twitter now and love it. totally agree scoble.
- Jason Pollock
Hoping for some improvements to Tweetdeck groups - just not enough yet
- Kirsten Hamstra
yeah but how do you SEE the patterns, you cannot read them all do you?
- Hans Mestrum
You should be talking about all the spammers on Twitter because that is the trend
- paul mooney
Robert is our filter, we follow robert who sees the patterns and reports it back.
- Ray Slakinski
Here's a hint: I don't always follow 125,000 people. In friendfeed I have lists of only 150 people. THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE NOISE.
- Robert Scoble
He has a socket in the back of his head ;-)
- Richard H
Also, in friendfeed I can remove noise by displaying only items that have gotten a like. Like this: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Thank goodness we have you, Robert, to do that, so we don't have to.
- Jason Mayoff
make sense following "likes"
- Hans Mestrum
paul: spammers don't bother me. They add about as much value as people who tell me they had a jelly sandwich for lunch.
- Robert Scoble
Jeff Pulver Followers every p0rn site and spammer who Follows him, check his Following list
- paul mooney
paul: here's a little trick: I do most of my following in friendfeed. Why? Better friend management.
- Robert Scoble
I also have issues bc what I have to follow for work is very different from what I want to follow, but that is another issue.
- Michelle
Twitter has gone the way of email, that's why Twitter Search doesn't work - the system is overwellemed!
- paul mooney
Bill: actually you only need to follow a few people to get a pretty good look at the good stuff. Why? If something is good everyone talks about it.
- Robert Scoble
Michelle - same issue here! work vs. professional following and juggling multiple accts
- Kirsten Hamstra
paul: it still works for me. I just skip over the spam. My mind likes seeing spam and noise. It helps me see the news.
- Robert Scoble
For the rest of us - just friend Scoble -- you might hear about stuff delayed 5 minutes or so.
- Brian Sullivan
Where do I get one of these neat sockets in the back of my head, I get dizzy just trying to follow 2K people.
- dabitch
All the Twitter marketers are auto-Following the spammers, it's a perfect storm
- paul mooney
paul: in email I don't care about the spam either. I can always scan a page of spam and find my boss' emails for some reason.
- Robert Scoble
reminds me of roy - I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the darkness at Tan Hauser Gate.
- mike "glemak" dunn
Brian: that is true. My like feed at http://www.friendfeed.com/scoblei... is pretty good.
- Robert Scoble
That's why people who don't follow others on Twitter are kinda of missing the point, aren't they? I love seeing when people are being followed by 30,000 people but following 2.
- Curt Mercadante
BTW Robert, props on following the Iran elections. Hopefully this will open our eyes to what has been happening in Egypt, Russia, Pakistan and a host of other countries for decades. If Benezir Bhutto were alive and had been elected like she would have been, we'd live in a different world.
- Michelle
so robert - could you be an android ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Robert: so in a way, if you follows all that people, we actually needs to follow only one person, which is you. here's why: it is most likely that you'll post about the major stuff that you read about in your friends stream - which make you a better filter than any other service around :) (I'm following lots of people too because I simply like to find and read about new and exciting things)
- Orli Yakuel
I totally agree with you Robert. It's like holding your hand into a jet of water and drinking from time to time.
- nik
you need to have the spirit of sharing good stuffs to others, or the good only reaches you but does not spread out.
- K.D.
I cannot get people to join FriendFeed. I even did a video showing them how great it is. I cannot seem to follow that many more on Twitter than 200 and keep up with them. I tried Tweetdeck, but it just used too much RAM for me.
- Hummie
The REAL trick here is that you have a natural gift for scanning with your eyes. I would follow many more people if I could scan (and absorb) information as quickly as you do. Since I don't, I follow you. You are among my first line of defense.
- Bettina Tizzy
All these fortune cookie Tweets are the work of spammers, sooner or later comes the link to the get-rich-quick site
- paul mooney
Robert you are awesome! ★
- weirdchina
@scobleizer I want to see the matrix also... still several K from where you are.
- Robert Freeze
Robert, do you read http://friendfeed.com/public also?
- bnoise
i follow more on ff
- junrxu
Sounds a little like Joey Osmond - Robert I see patterns Scoble? Definitely agree though - there is useful information that can be pulled from the right people's twitter/friendfeed that gives trends developing real time, as long as sea changes over longer periods
- Tom Tubbs
Hmmm, why is http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... faster than http://friendfeed.com/public ?
- Greg Byrne
omg that is impossible to read
- bnoise
from IM
holy shit robert... i just had my mind blown watching your live friendfeed. this whole time i've been trying to control the chaos... keep people organized into neat piles. wow... wowow
- Eric Nakagawa
You are so right!
- Thomas Chai
@Hummie: I had the same problem with TweetDeck. Try SeesmicDesktop, it has similar functionality but less RAM-greedy
- Ashalynd
Robert do you have a link to the video you did showing 'how' you manage all this information flow? I would enjoy watching it again.
- Matt Perry
here's another interesting search which will show all scoble's friends' items that have at least 1 like: http://friendfeed.com/search... only wish this were realtime
- Mike Chelen
Robert - cool post, excellent comments - same exact reason I embraced FF in early days and stayed here!! Love it
- Susan Beebe
Robert since I have been following you I have done a complete 180 on how I felt about social networking before. I mean the media is fast but social networking works at the speed of thought. Now if I could only figure out how to interact behind the Army & Airforce firewall... I felt lost today at work... LOL
- Nathan McClain
Matt, I think that video is this one: HOw I Read Tweets: http://www.kyte.tv/scoblei...
- Robert Scoble
Orli the problem with only following me is that I need to sleep once in a while and I also might not follow people you care about. For instance, if you are into celebrities and not technology I totally wouldn't be good for you to follow.
- Robert Scoble
we know what I care about and I'm glad that I'm following you! but I got the point, and I agree of course. I was just kidding I guess..
- Orli Yakuel
Great video. Watching it again now...
- Matt Perry
Yeah some wild connections are made by watching a lot more than a few friends. Wonder why most people don't "get" that? Researchers should follow a ton of people and sources.
- Jack Humphrey
Jack: actually, people should do BOTH follow a ton of people and sources as well as follow just a very select group of people. I wish I could share my groups (er, lists of friends) with you all. THEY are going to be the secret to filtering in the future.
- Robert Scoble
I'm lazy. I use your feed as my pre-filtered source of good/interesting general information. Thanks for doing a lot of the hard work for us (or at least me).
- John Meagher
Robert I think you are 100% correct, but it touches on what people should have already been doing, and that's getting as much information as they can from as many sources as they can and putting the facts together for themselves. I think traditional media's days of fact-less reporting are thankfully numbered. This is truly Fair and Balanced!!!
- Nathan McClain
Robert: People still won't get it. Seeing patterns is a talent or a skill. You can aid it, however, by showing or demonstrating how you filter for patterns. How do you scan messages and discern a pattern? How do you focus on a few without missing the patterns of the many? Might make a good presentation/blog. You probably already did it, right?
- Alan Eggleston
I don't think it requires following 125,000 people to be aware of the same trends.
- stretta
stretta: it does not, but I get to see small things that many people don't.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - and I appreciate those "small things" :) --- they look like startups! and new bright shiny tech toys!
- Susan Beebe
imagine an AI system that can analyze all that data for you and generate illuminating reports...
- Matt Jaunich
Matt: I can and lots of geeks are working on building just that.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for the post. I immediately added the "like" search to my saved searches.
- Sean Powell
I follow 60,000 and I see a white light at the end of a tunnel. It's getting closer...
- Rick
You must do this by o s m o s i s....no other way? Intuition and speeed reading.
- Ziona Etzion
Yeah. Robert, I don't read your stuff and I don't know if you're going to read this. But regardless, I know you're well famed and this is the first thing I skimmed across of yours that would indicate that it's deserved. I follow options in the same way., eg almost literally. I have TD StrategyDesk open right now, ThinkOrSwim, Power E*Trade Pro, OptionsXPress, and the regular TD Ameritrade website open as well. Doing this allows me to view and be ware of data and turning points in many views and levels
- Matt Kaufman
Robert: If you could follow all 100,000+ people from Twitter in real time within friendfeed would you?
- Garin Kilpatrick
Twitter is a helpful automatized hammer for the main engine, which is friendfeed ;
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
I don't see why you couldn't just save a search on everybody's posts with likes on FF though and still follow only those you actually read daily + any protected accts? Even build smarter searches than that. You increase the number of people following you by lots more your way of course.
- Thomas Bøhm
from BuddyFeed
Sorry. The trend watching and analytical part would be the same, wouldn´t it, except that I now see that the saved searches don´t update in realtime. Yet.
- Thomas Bøhm
from BuddyFeed
That's why realtime filters would be awesome. All the relevant stuff, without refreshing.
- bnoise
from IM
No doubt...
- Thor
Nice post :-) Two questions though:
- Patrick Mackaaij
1. What sets apart the 100,000 people you "follow" to glance at once in a while from the everyone feed?
- Patrick Mackaaij
2. (a Friendfeed question): Do you still read this since I posted this comment a few hours after the initial conversation.
- Patrick Mackaaij
How did you find so many people to follow? How does an average user find so many to follow?
- Bas
Patrick: I was on stage and couldn't be on friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
Patrick: the people I follow are usually much more tech interested and demonstrate early adopted behavior than the larger public audience.
- Robert Scoble
Never mind all this. How's Opera? Got a link this morning and thought I might try it (what a surprise, me trying something).
- Francine Hardaway
This is how I tell other people about Robert: http://www.victusspiritus.com/2009... and it's how I'm slowly patterning web learning (when I have time to interact and learn)
- Mark Essel
Scoble Earth(TM), Pete Blackshaw? ;)
- Tyson Key
Robert: Is this a Mandelbrot pattern? The chaos has a look, a feel and a taste, as in the jet of water analogy. You're the freakin' hydrologist with the dousing rod.
- Phil Boiarski
Robert: I was not expecting a real time response but was wondering how you keep track of all conversations you engaged with on FF. How can you see where comments are added?
- Patrick Mackaaij
I'm with Robert, just not with such a big of a scale. My point: I am noise and you are noise. Let's not forget there's a baby in that bathwater before one takes a blanket anti social network view of social networking!
- Mike Lewis
Robert, you are a living, breathing supernode, and I thank you for it :-) (Supernodes: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-95...)
- Andy Bold
makes sense 2 me
- Ron Hagenhoff
OMG Robert I agree 100% BEFORE Twitter screwed with the @replies censoring us from seeing all that people tweeted... I could scroll through my home page and get the pulse of the world on Twitter! A beautiful site! Comparatively now: Twitter is silent.
- Arleen Boyd
Robert, I'm having a jelly sandwich for lunch tomorrow. ;-)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
All major television networks/news outlets should hire Scoble and heed this advice based on this weekends events in Iran. They need to learn how to listen, filter and understand how social media can deliver real-time information around the world.
- E-Advocate Network
böring
- yazarcizer
What tools are you using to keep track of the all that flows past?
- Inbox2 Team
Yeah, Robert is an Androïd! Each time I'm gotta 'like' 1 of his entries, comment, or visit links, I ask myself if I'm doing this because he is Scoble! Of course not: it's just because he's always pointing on valuable infos. And this is good for IT stuffs, for early adopters, for business.
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
So, Scoble proves that the best search & filter engine is Human. (Nah.. I'm not a 'groupie', never will ;-))
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Curt, pple who don't follow others and hope to be followed & heard are obviously wrong. Social Media is not "Ego Media" ;)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Patrick, IMO Robert uses FriendFeed's search to find infos, & FF's email features to keep track of conversations & updates
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
or maybe you also miss some important ones because of the noise: like the patterns known by 99% of the users that have less than 1000 followers? does that make sense?
- Ouriel Ohayon
isn't that a little too much? do you even have time for anything else? Is it worth knowing about an earthquake some 30-40 minutes earlier than most people than spending some time with your real life friends?
- stefan
Stefan, the point is: if you want to spend as much time as possible with your real life friends, you have to be as efficient as possible during the time you spend in front of the computer. The more information you drink in a short time, the faster you can identify patterns.
- Brome
Best answer I've heard for why I'm also ok with following and listening to a ton of people on various platforms: "noise is like the lawn. It lets you see the flowers. - Robert Scoble"
- Leslie Poston
Wow, that's a clever use of the platforms!
- gareth - MMX Edition
We need information so we can decide while staying in touch with reality. -> Filtering skills, Good Human filter, Good filter tool (FriendFeed).
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
from email
Thierry: thanks I was looking for that indeed! Have changed my settings to see how e-mail works out there but I thought maybe there would be an easier way...
- Patrick Mackaaij
hey it was great to finally personally meeting you and hung out at the diner ; my weblog about the evening now at http://ff.im/45HR3 plus infos about WE LIVE IN PUBLIC premiering now in L.A. and my new video "PERU" @ http://www.youtube.com/watch... ; all the best for the conference today and building43 ;
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Another FF question: I was under the assumption FF would merge duplicate imports so that conversations like these would remain in one place. If I do a search on a tending topic of today this does not seem to be the case: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Patrick Mackaaij
Patrick, the imports may be duplicate URLs or pictures or whatever, but the conversation around them could be different. I see this as a good thing, and it show me two things. (1) it is an intersection of the different groups and types of people that I subscribe to. (2) it can be different nationalities in different timezones. Ie, of a more global interest. Bothe are good pieces of data for me.
- Andy Bold
from email
@Brom, yes. but there is only so much information one can absorb at a time. 100.000 twitters and 25 FFs? Even half of it is too much for a normal person to take in that fast. Robert MUST be a robot O_O
- stefan
@Andy: I'd rather not see any duplicate URL's and have the conversation take place in one thread. Google Translate can solve the language problem. But my question at the moment was what the current status is. I see it's already discussed here: http://friendfeed.com/susanbe...
- Patrick Mackaaij
Patrick, I see what you mean now. Nice link - thanks!
- Andy Bold
from email
how do I follow thousands of people without clicking follow over and over
- Kyle Weller
Kyle: Use friendfeed and click "subscribe"
- Garin Kilpatrick
Kyle: its still required to click subscribe for each user, but those clicks are well spent, and FF also will show posts from friends-of-friends. another good option is to join some groups for subjects that interest you
- Mike Chelen
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Wat een prachtige foto's! Sfeer mooi getroffen zo denk ik.
- Hans Mestrum
"ff is absorbing more twitter users" (http://venturebeat.com/2009... ) en vind het super! ff is realtime en laat alle activiteiten van mensen zien.
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ja mooi he
- Hans Mestrum
als twitter down is kun je altijd nog rondhangen op friendfeed. Zoiets als boodschappen doen bij de Aldi als AH dicht is.
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Just was talking to http://www.friendfeed.com/garin and we came to the conclusion that if you are going to comment on a friendfeed item you should either be first or last. Why? They always are visible. So, here's your chance! :-)
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zaloom!
- Kevin Johnson
If we are really cool we'll get on this list http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Kevin is first, who will be last? I just want to be the penultimate commenter!
- Robert Scoble
first and last words are all that matter on the FF.
- rob friedman
Okay. Everyone stop NOW!
- Kevin Sablan
great. now FF is going to be filled up with those annoying ass people that comment "FIRST!" on everything.
- Enrique Gutierrez
ok
- Shawn Snodgrass
Aw crap, I could sit here all night waiting to be last, so may as well comment now.
- Sharon McPherson
8th!
- rob friedman
Any worthy FF thread will engage interested parties enough to read most of the comments.
- Tad
Do I get bonus points if I end up being the thread killer?
- Kevin Johnson
Kevin you could always delete your 1st comment. :)
- rob friedman
Kevin! Yes, and we're having a great time watching this. It will get old fast, but for now it's really fun!
- Robert Scoble
Dang it I am 5 min too late. So I guess it is like posting on a blog post, you always want to be first.
- Jeff
Hey Enrique.. that would suck. Oh... LAST! Oh Jeff... Last.
- Ted Bradford II
That's why these threads just go on and on and on... people just want to have the last word. ;-P
- Chris Heath
Chris: I don't want the last word. I want the penultimate word. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Nope, I like the riffng of the conversation. Jump in anywhere. Enjoy the free flow of ideas and worry not about being seen by the scanners. Those who take the time to expand the thread have such a richer experience.
- michael sean wright
if i wasn't so tired i'd play that out Chris (as my last post was truly in jest). Late here in East TN. Gonna go tip a few cows and call it a day.
- Ted Bradford II
Ted: so was mine ... didn't you catch the winky tongue? (i'm on cape fear so i'm soon to bed as well)
- Chris Heath
Good point, unless you're actually using the RT chat aspect of FriendFeed, I guess...
- Andy Werner
I actually come back 5 days later to make comments so I can have the last word. Everyone has already forgotten what the conversation is about by then.
- Jeff
Chris- I did, but needed a segue into a cow tipping joke... cause I've never done so before. I do know this, tomorrow I will use the word 'penultimate' and dazzle family and friends. Hope alls quiet on the Cape bro. These storms have been a biotch. Annnnnnd Jeff just trumped us all. Tell him what he's won Enrique... nite all.
- Ted Bradford II
I'd never use mustard on that.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
Second to last is always visible on my screen. :)
- Bwana ☠
Clever way to get the most commented upon comment on FF ever....
- Barak B
Ted, if you haven't dozed off- i'll have you know that the coastal winds tend to keep a lot of the storm systems at bay- if you're close enough to the water - a mile or 5 inland can make a big difference some days - and spot t/storms can be localized around here big time - for instance yesterday it rained (for a short period) at my house while i was at work 5 miles away getting no rain - only knew cuz the ground was wet when i went home for lunch... ok - it's really time for sleep now - g'nite FriendFeed
- Chris Heath
so in other words, last is not least?
- Julie Bovee Hill
Barak: check out this idea for a long thread (still nowhere near the longest on friendfeed, but the idea.. ) http://friendfeed.com/ajbatac...
- Chris Heath
Chris: Yes, that is a good one too. This is better though and I predict with end up with more comments.
- Barak B
Yay! I am last as of now :)
- Amit Nangare
lets see how long this lasts for! :)
- Paul Kinlan
Another one of these? From Scoble this time? Wow. BTW, last post.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
LOUD NOISES.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
it took you this long to figure that out? :)
- Steven Hodson
I will be the penultimate commenter!
- Garin Kilpatrick
That way I can be the ultimate one.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Nope.
- Barak B
friendfeed should allow for "liking" comments so top comments can be the ones shown, no matter the chronology. And allow the users to watch comments by likes, threaded or chronologically.
- Charbax
A blatant attempt at gaming the FriendFeed statistics for no real useful purpose... Oooh, can I be last, Please Please!!!
- Peter Kelley
No, Peter, you may not be last. That's my position.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Last Post!!!
- Richard Hurt
well, the last comment is always changing, isn't this like having your 5 nanoseconds of glory?
- Liviu Lica
This thread is now closed.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
No, NOW it's closed.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Or is it? :)
- Liviu Lica
Perhaps now...
- Garin Kilpatrick
I would give it another 2 hrs or so.
- Jeff
thats me! :)
- Roshan Ramachandran
based on what you say, it easier to simply click like :-)
- Orli Yakuel
:)
- Michael Fidler
"Comment on a friendfeed item"? which one? ;)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Are trying to go for the longest comment thread again?
- Amit Morson
Amit: no, most times one post gets hidden.
- Robert Scoble
In a different timezone you can have the advantage :)
- Rene de Vries
Okay, people, nothing to see here. Just walk on. This is the last comment. It's all clear now.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
What if you write backwards? Does that help?
- Kieran Daly
Okay, people, nothing to see here. Just walk on. This is the last comment. It's all clear now. says Ruud van Wijngaarden
- Julian Edward
It would be nice if we could pick the number of comments shown at the top and bottom, I'd like to see the first 3 and last 3 for example.
- Kol Tregaskes
I usually read all the comments of something I'm interested in. I don't just read the top and bottom ones so I don't care where I come in. I comment on what I want to because I want to say something. It's nice if the original poster reads/responds to it, but not absolutely necessary. Most of the time the most fun/interaction comes from other commenters.
- Molly
:) says Michael Fidler
- Julian Edward
Sounds like an online auction...Is there any deadline? Then I'll prepare my winning speech 17,3 sec beforehand.
- Zack Brandit
I'm not falling for your postbait, Scoble! Oh wait...crap.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Cow tipping - That's Funny
- Brent - Loving Life
Good point.
- Jack Boyle
I feel sorry for the cows. And the grass. I am weakhearted I guess.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
I guess I misunderstood. You were talking about that fat waittress in Crazy Mick's Breakaway Cafe, weren't you?
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Fine, I'm in
- Don Bonaddio
am I last yet ?
- Julian Edward
Nope
- Jérôme Flipo
no
- mjc
Yeah, you were last. Congrats.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
In ur timezone, stealin ur commentz, kthxbye :)
- Peter Kelley
ok, I'll hold on to last place for visablity!
- PaulJohnson
I was going to add something witty, but i got nothing. sorry....
- Mike Nencetti
No problem. Participating is more important than winning, we say in the Netherlands.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
It's the long-tail of real-time
- zeroinfluencer
Excellent point David ;)
- Don Bonaddio
Being last has one drawback. It makes you a thread-killer. I'm not sure some of us like being that. Sometimes I'd rather see the discussion keep going.
- George Hall (Australia)
Do like the suggestion made earlier that there should be bonus points for being the thread-killer...
- George Hall (Australia)
but who wants to be last?
- mcvictor
Ok Robert, please close this thread now. ;)
- Meryn Stol
I disagree, and I'll tell you why below...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
We already did this thread, I'll post the link right after Tina's rebuttal
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
You don't really believe that Robert. Content is key! :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
But if I post last, I'm first in the thread on Twhirl! Double win! ;-)
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
amazing
- David Gross
from email
Always happy to be last .... but it probably won't last :)
- Charlie Anzman
llllllaaaaasssssstttttt
- mjc
You'd be right Charlie :P
- Jay
And there is nothing I hate more than reading that first comment that childishly claims "First!" and nothing more. "Last!" (until the next comment comes along)
- Jim Espinoza
By the way, I'm the last commenter in a very participated thread recently started by Robert Scoble, but that didn't gain me almost any new follower. I'm fine with this though, as I'd find silly being advantaged for being the last commenter ;-)
- Opensource Obscure
Agreed :)
- Fabian De Simone
How do I stick my comment to the bottom so that it will always be last? :)
- Jeff Sayre
How long can this go on?
- Tom Landini
Last! ...for now
- Scott
*BOOM* sorry Scott
- Mark Essel
So this if why Scoble goes nuts over realtime feeds - he can be the first to comment.
- Tom Landini
I guess those are the two most pivotal points in a conversation, how it starts and how it ends but without the middle it's really no fun
- Mark Essel
Well, every comment gets to be last for at least a couple of seconds. Or fractions of a second with RT.
- Kevin Pedraja
If you want to understand the power of last you need to read this thread http://friendfeed.com/mikenay...
- WorldofHiglet
"There is no final solution. There is no last word.” ~ Carlos Fuentes
- Sharon McPherson
First is way better, because the last post can always change :)
- Tim McDougall
Easy to be first, harder to be last. Kind of like trying to win a silent auction, you always have to go back
- Lorraine Ball
but what if it took me a while to find the discussion, and i still want to be last? ;-)
- Courtney Engle
Firs...Last.
- Rob
@Rob - in yo' face!
- JoEllen
The one who will comment after me is so stupid I would'nt like to be him :P
- Stanislas Jourdan
Yoink!
- Zach Lytwyn
112 comments - but there can never be last comment, can there? Unless there is a FF limit on the number of comments - Paul, is there a limit?
- WorldofHiglet
The current last comment is the next penultimate comment.
- Brian Sullivan
Not everyone is on here to market themselves to infinity. Why people, other than people who actually make money off of exposure, insist on wanting the most friends on ff/fb/ms/tt is beyond me. Not everyone is a Scobilite! Yes I did just make that word up... where do I copyright it? lol
- Jason Williams
Didn't someone blog about tinyurl's dominance a while back - about how they have too much power. Might have been Gillmor or Winer
- Bwana ☠
Winer. I don't think they have too much power
- Steve Gillmor
I'm going for last.
- Derek Markham
I've got last:-)
- Francine Hardaway
I'm the ultimate thread killer, so I win.
- jcunwired
instahide
- Edward Zwart
How can we compete against Robert
- Peter Meng
Peter: why compete? Just come in last! :-)
- Robert Scoble
ok
- Kevin Johnson
Just checking. I heard this thread was closed, so I wondered if commenting still works.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
For the love; Robert please kill this tread so I will stop getting email. ;)
- Jeff
wow that's pretty rad :-)
- Patphelan
@Jeff, it's not spam if you opt in ;-)
- Kevin Johnson
wonder what the value of posting on page length increments are... as people page down your comment is visible ;)
- offbeatmammal
Jeff: do you still get email if you hide a thread? I bet you do. That sucks. Now I know why I don't turn on email notifications.
- Robert Scoble
There is no last. - Mobius Loop
- Robert Couture
to infinity and beyond
- Jonathan Grimes
Kevin: i did not say it was spam. I put the smiley face indicating my partial joking nature. but only partial.
- Jeff
Robert: I could not figure out how to disable comments for particular post. It is really not a big issue since I have gmail, but I do think this post may never die.
- Jeff
@Jeff - same here - noworries
- Kevin Johnson
- Rob
This. Will. Never. End.
- Michael Forian
Pay me $10 and I'll delete this thread. (Future friendfeed monetization technique). Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
Your comment is always the last! look at mine :)
- Luis Benavides
Welcome to the neverending thread :)
- Garin Kilpatrick
Garin: I'll delete it before it ends. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: That would be a shame. You'd be up $10 at least though :)
- Garin Kilpatrick
The last shall be last
- Peter Meng
There can be only one.
- Kevin Johnson
I seem to be last on many of Steve Gillmor's posts @techcrunchit, the kiss of death to many a conversation. I should be so lucky here.
- Aron Michalski
from fftogo
A good way to stop? - Scoble puts in his penultimate comment Kevin Johnson says zaloom!
- Julian Edward
Yes, you should be so lucky :p
- Jesse Newhart
I'm going to change my FriendFeed ID to "145 more comments"
- Mark Traphagen
Getting a piece of the pie... :)
- Jan Ole Peek
I've often found myself to have the last comment. It hasn't benefited me yet that I've noticed...let's try that again.
- Mike Lewis
first is forever....last is a very transient honor indeed.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
and being both is probably meaningless, but I'm still going to claim it
- Kevin Johnson
Do others ever get more than 2 comments on their posts? :)
- Cameron
I'm lucky to get 2.
- jcunwired
Doing it!! www.radarla.com
- Drew Lucas
So, if you are last and then someone comes behind you, should you re-comment to be last again?
- T.S. Elliott
Probably so T.S. but it won't last long ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Sorry Rob:-)
- Michael Fidler
1
- Robert Kenney
2
- Robert Kenney
This is the Seinfeld of FF....the post and comments about nothing. I wonder what the record is for the most comments on FF?
- Jeff
As a fine-art platform, as a painting, do you think anyone would be interested in a full-screen image feed animated by Judith Supine? http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- stephen harlow
He who comments last...
- Abbas Haider Ali
comments as:
- Kevin Johnson
Tag- Im it
- Ryan Gerritsen
not anymore you're not ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
zaloom!
- Kevin Johnson
for one moment I could imagine that every comment was Kevin Johnson and his "zaloom!"
- WorldofHiglet
ANd so I do and then another and another :) Fun huh.
- Ray Marr aka Knatchwa
not really... but hey... whatever
- Chris Heath
So to comment or to like a FriendFeed item is to promote it.. and to promote the promoter. Great great great!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
173rd!!
- Mark Traphagen
Controlled noise...
- Joe Dawson
Indeed it is official :) But not for long let me bask in it's glory for a moment hahaha.
- Ray Marr aka Knatchwa
It was fun while it lasted.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
It's over now - no need to post any more comments
- Julian Edward
Okay, Thanks. It was taking too much of my time anyway.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Looks like this could become another "LAST" type post that Mike Nayyar (http://friendfeed.com/mikenay...) has ;)
- Nicholas James
Nicholas: Except this thread is far more epic :)
- Garin Kilpatrick
back again...to claim last place!
- Zach Lytwyn
Good for you Zach!
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Cannot. Let. This. End.
- Robert Couture
Have. To.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
hit hit hit
- Hans Mestrum
Kol: Cool idea, it would be neat to be able to choose how many of the first and last comments were visible.
- Garin Kilpatrick
Last
- Michael Fidler
I like most anything distilled...information, bait...(distilled bait...is that like the worm at the bottom of the mezcal?)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The difference would be that in this case the worm will stay on the bottom. No matter what.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
I reckon it'll be Ruud van Wijngaarden
- Julian Edward
I am not quite sure about that. But willing to accept it. (Wait! You just called me a worm? The most underrated but valuable animal on the planet, that brings us fertile ground and eats dead stuff? It is a nice compliment, but might be a bit much).
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
No, No! - I didn't mean you worm. Although as you say they are useful beings. I do hope you'lll be in heroic position of last commenter! This is a case of the last shall be second. (Kevin Johnson being first of course). Scoble is penultimate we would hope. I'm aiming for 5th to last!
- Julian Edward
Yesterday somebody asked: 'if you pass the number two in a race, which place are you in?' and I answered wrong. Passing the last one in this race will be hard...
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Hoe stuur ik iemand een reply op Friendfeed? Ook met de @?
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Zou ik ook wel willen weten. En ook: hoe hou ik deze thread bij? Zie geen favorite, allen "like".
- Jules Stuifbergen
gewoon op comment klikken dan komt je reply onder het bericht
- Hans Mestrum
maar het zou handiger zijn als je op de naam oid kunt klikken nu komt reply tussen de andere overigens komt je comment dan wel weer bovenaan in de lijst
- Hans Mestrum
Maar hoe spreek je iemand aan 'vanuit het niets'? Of is FF niet zo'n chatkanaal als twitter..
- Jules Stuifbergen
ja da's een goeie zou dat ook 123 niet weten
- Hans Mestrum
En toch vraag ik me af wat de toegevoegde waarde is van Friendfeed tov Facebook. Facebook kan dit toch allemaal ook?
- Niek ten Hoopen
@Jules: Je klikt in 't menu rechts gewoon op My Discussions. Zie je vanzelf waar je commentaar hebt geleverd & wat daar veranderd is.
- Ton Zijp
@Jules: Je spreekt niet iemand aan vanuit 't niets. Je kan wel iemand IM-en (rechtsbovenaan), maar een thread start je gewoon zonder iemand perse aan te spreken.
- Ton Zijp
Ik geloof dat ik ga afhaken... als ik me telkens afvraag hoe iets moet en of iets kan is het kennelijk niet goed genoeg...
- Niek ten Hoopen
& O ja, je kan natuurlijk ook je instellingen zo aanpassen dat als iemand op jou reageert, je een mailtje toegestuurd krijgt. Ook handig, kan je weer reageren door via de mail te reageren.
- Ton Zijp
@Niek: Je hoeft je helemaal niet af te vragen hoe iets moet. Je kan besluiten om er meer uit te halen dan dat zich aan de oppervlakte lijkt aan te bieden. & Je leert snel bij FF. :-)
- Ton Zijp
@Ton: Waarom zou ik dat willen? De conversatiefunctionaliteit is een plus t.o.v. Twitter maar ik mis dat je iemand vanuit het niets kan aanspreken (de prikbordpagina van Facebook, de replies op Twitter of de krabbels op Hyves). Waarom zou ik nu ineens een systeem gaan gebruiken wat minder kan dan ik wil dat het zou kunnen?
- Niek ten Hoopen
@Niek: Maar als je iemand vanuit 't niets aan wil spreken, dan doe je dat toch via Twitter. Als die andere persoon dan via FF wil reageren, kan dat ook. Ontstaat er hier vanzelf een overzichtelijke thread. FF is juist een service die je stimuleert om allerlei andere services te gebruiken & probeert een middel te zijn al die services bij elkaar te verzamelen onder jouw naam. 't Is een soortement persoonlijke blogaggregator. Ik ben al mensen tegengekomen die zeggen dat dit hún nieuwe manier van bloggen is.
- Ton Zijp
@zyperspace ja ik voel wat je bedoelt alleen het is ingewikkeld te snappen wanneer wat waar naar toe gaat. Nu krijg ik soms dingen dubbel in twitter. Ligt natuurlijk aan mijn instellingen maar toch lastig
- Hans Mestrum
@Hans: Ja, daar sta ik zelf ook af & toe verbaasd over dat zoiets kan. Maar daar maak ik me niet al te druk over. Op een gegeven moment legt iemand uit hoe 't komt & dan weet al snel iedereen 't.
- Ton Zijp
Uhmm...gewoon door middel van "Comment" toch ?
- Ewout
ja dat is ook weer zo gewoon doen en kijken hoe het gaat en of je er iets mee kan ik merk dat ik het threaded vooral ook mooi vindt en handig
- Hans Mestrum
Op ff kan je gewoon een reactie geven onder het afzonderlijk bericht, dus voor zo ver ik kan begrijpen is geen @replies nodig, of heb ik wat gemist ? ;-)
- Mike
@Zijperspace Ik snap nu wat de toegevoegde waarde van FF is, maar Twitter is _zo_ overheersend. Zo lang mensen daar veel chatten, en al hun feeds en moby's met twitterfeed in pompen, zit twitter FF in de weg.
- Jules Stuifbergen
It’s Not About the Tools, It’s About the Strategy - http://webworkerdaily.com/2009...
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@hansmestrum: Yep, is mijn hobbyprojectje. Net die tweetfunctie toegevoegd om het wat bekender te maken :-)
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