I want to fill one with raspberry iced tea and just walk down the street sippin' on it. Maybe throw in some overalls for good measure.
- Christopher Harley
I'm with Akiva, though I can't say it's not popular. But ya, damn, a gallon.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Pretty much, yeah. You can use it, and it's not bad, but you're selling your food and tongue short.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I grew up 90 miles from the Gulf coast and I still see plenty of Tabasco here and there. I haven't lived right on the water as a townie though - perhaps I've missed out.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
does tabasco sauce ever spoil? this might not be a bad investment.
- tiffany
For some reason, I really don't like Tabasco. It just tastes like vinegar to me. I will, however, put sriracha on just about anything.
- joey
My favorite Southern hot sauce is probably Red Rooster and/or Crystal's. That stuff is the business. I like sriracha alright, but not more than I do that stuff.
- Derrick
Hah, don't get me wrong; I'm just having a laugh here. I don't have anything against Tabasco and it's certainly prevalent down there. I was just raised on Crystal's and definitely prefer it. Hell, I'll drink Crystal's right from the bottle. (Okay, that's a lie (no it's not))
- Akiva Moskovitz
Melinda's is my favorite. Not super hot for a habanero sauce, but man is it delicious. :)
- mikepk
I'd take a gallon of the chipotle flavor. Otherwise, gimme Frank's
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Red Hot, Ha3rvey? I'm down with that. WHY NO BODY MAKING ME NO CATFISH?
- Derrick
I know a great place for catfish, Derrick, but you'd have to get here first. Seriously: me, you, and an eating trip across the south. I got the time now!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Dang, Derrick. We totally have to hang out next time I'm out that way. DO YOU GOT ANY BREAM?
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
I know what I'm gonna be getting my wife and father for Christmas now. Thanks Derrick!
- Give 'Em DBizness
I use Tapatio and Tabasco and sriracha depending on the meal but almost always use one of them with almost everything. for ejemplo, Tabasco on loco mocos, tapatio on buffalo wings, and sriracha on stir fry.
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
So close! Soon this will be ours! The last steps are now in motion. I know this looks like a thousand other suburban houses. The difference is, this is *our* suburban house. Plus, it really is pretty neat on the inside. Pics soon, when we officially have the keys!
Never thought I'd be in Carmel... Used to be so annoyed with that place. Jealous really... So, if you can't beat them, join them, I guess. Especially in the Indianapolis area.
- Kamilah Gill
Thank you, everyone. Now we're waiting for conditions to clear underwriting and get sent to the title company... Anyone have anything to say about this bit of the process? I guess once these mysterious underwriters get done with us, we will finally officially and totally have the home loan.
- Kamilah Gill
Have my room ready. I got you on the cookies.
- Derrick
Awesome I can't wait to see some pictures of the inside!
- Andrizzle Gizzle
Andrea, those pics you liked earlier show a little bit of the interior. We'll probably get better pics once more stuff is moved in, and maybe during whatever housewarming activities we end up doing.
- Kamilah Gill
Sorry I should have said some MORE pics, couldn't see too much from the ones earlier but the kitchen looks cute! I love seeing houses when they are all empty and then when they are filled with someone's things.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
I think our walls are also the same/similar color as the ones in the house too. Hopefully I do not seem like a crazy person right now.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
Nope, no more crazy than usual, Andrea ;) (j/k)
- Kamilah Gill
I AM A CRAZY PERSON WHAT IS THE PANTONE COLOR OF YOUR WALLSSSSSSSS
- Andrizzle Gizzle
I was doing a research recently, I finished the work successfully but soon had to do another research then I realized there is no end to study and research … It takes a hell of a lot of knowledge to really know how little you know!!
- "Flo14wer"
usually fools always so certain of their beliefs, while wise people are usually filled with doubt =:)
- Fred De Luca
End of research and doubts are wisdom and God.
- Paul Cameron
You are a young intellectual lecturer, why do you always insist to study more and say you still don’t know anything? If I had a bit of your knowledge I would declared myself as a prophet! :P
- Cristina Lombardi
Avicenna also known as Ibn Seena was a Persian Muslim polymath and the foremost physician and Islamic philosopher of his time. He was also an astronomer, chemist, logician, mathematician, psychologist, physicist, scientist, Sheikh, statesman and theologian. After years of teaching and learning he said: "I thought I know everything but now I know, I don't know nothing!"
- "Flo14wer"
Human knowledge is just a fraction of the universe, the more you know, shows you how much you don't really know
- "Flo14wer"
There is nothing more joyful than research and learn new things and always be sure that there is no end for this joy!
- Mary
Another word and the forces will abolish all forms of Cilantro on this planet called Earth, message received from Planet Janet
- Janet
Message to Planet Janet: you know you love it with cilantro, baby.
- Steven Perez
Now see this is the interesting thing: if anybody posts, then you have to. So if everybody keeps posting, you'll just have to keep up with us. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
- CAJ, somewhere else
I CAN ATTEST THAT PEA IS, IN FACT, ALL SUGAR AND SPICE AND EVERYTHING NICE. Argue that, and let's see how mean you really wanna be. In the meantime, my head hurts so discuss this amongst yourselves. You can summarize it for me later.
- pea
Debating tip: never try to get in the last word. Always give your opponent the opportunity to get in the last word. By some sort of mysterious karmic law, your persuasiveness will improve immeasurably. :)
- Sean McBride
Steven Perez isn't a Bunneh!!! As long as he doesn't respond.
- Jimminy Fuller
This is a point that can never be proved, nor disproved until all but one of us are dead.
- Slappy Line
So... it's kind of like a "tontine" but with a pretty weak payoff?
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Hmmm, actually, it only needs to continue until Steven Perez is dead (of very old age, i of course hope). Our victory is guaranteed. Of course, if friendfeed gets eaten by fb, it's just going to be a race to get the last comment in before the site goes down.
- Slappy Line
It's okay, he's got a Catch-22 now. Steven Perez isn't a Bunneh, so long as he doesn't respond. And we all know he refutes his Bunneh status.
- Jimminy Fuller
It was real hawt in the town that night! IF I EDIT 18 hours later like now - is your last still last if comments are disabled? A hawt question.
- L Stephen Cleary
Steven is a Bunneh!!! He responded when I said he wasn't. Bunneh's can win if they want.
- Jimminy Fuller
Steven, I'm sure that not even you would resort to cheating to get the last word. I vote we just find the comment limit. It's gonna be a number ending in '0'
- Slappy Line
You did see where I said that I like my food scared and running, yeah? Mmmmm, ferret-ka-bobs ...
- Steven Perez
from IM
I do indeed see where this is headed, and no sir, I don't like it. *calls upon the forces of Voltron
- Tsali, The Native of FF
from IM
Sadly, the only Voltron to heed your call is the vehicle Voltron. And I disabled that yo-yo by pulling out the sparks plugs in the car feet.
- Steven Perez
from IM
And what is yo-yo code for in that last statement?
- pea
It's an old Navajo word for "punk-ass bitch".
- Steven Perez
from IM
very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy very busy
- Steven Perez
from IM
VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY
- Steven Perez
from IM
I think friendfeed only put the extra "Add comment" link at the bottom of threads because of this specific thread. It took me a full 20 seconds to scroll from one end of it to the other.
- Slappy Line
hmm... 800+ comments on this thread, and this is my first, and probably last comment on this thread. I wonder should I read all the comments, or just post?
- Mike Nencetti
Are you guys still trying to win?
- Steven Perez
from IM
23 years from now, Steven will still check his MSGoogle MyFriendFace feed every morning so he can respond to this post with 3,137,783 comments...
- Joe
from iPod
After half a month there must have been moment you thought it would not be a real big deal if you eventually should NOT have the last word, I suppose?
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Now that you've nearly reached 1100 comments, I realized that I hadn't officially "liked" this yet! Error rectified, though you're clearly a comment whore, you show great panache while doing so!
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Ohhh, you mean that place, which is totally faked by a #viciousbunneh who was in cahoots with the government in taking all the alfalfa plants into an underground hidden bunker.
- Tsali, The Native of FF
I will allow you to have the last word. But to take that last word you are surrendering your honor to a den of sightless whores.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Eventually, the whole thread will go backwards to the beginning.
- WorldofHiglet
That sounds like more fun than I imagine you wanted it to.
- Steven Perez
from IM
It was a test. Honor is pride. A den of sightless whores is merely an event that you will carry forever. You have attained the 7th level of enlightenment.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Considering that this thread has only been around since August, and has been shut down for the last two months, that's not too bad.
- Steven Perez
from IM
2012 is just the begining of the 13th Baktun, the long cont calendar doesn't actually run out until sometimes after 4772, that is of course if you stick with only Baktuns and don't use the other 4 higher counts, I just think FF will end in 4217 on planet Tersanzar :)
- Tsali, The Native of FF
Ah, right thread. In that thread, it's asked what you think you smell like. In this thread, I told you what I think you smell like.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I think this has lasted long enough. We already know what has to be the last word, it's already in the original quote. I will put it as the closing comment. I think we will all feel relieved we can now carry on to do greater things. For ourselves, our loved ones and the world.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
"The Internet is not about technology; it's about communication. The Internet connects people who have shared interests, ideas and needs, regardless of geography." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
I like it, but I think it doesn't go far enough. The telephone allows you to communicate. But when you hang up the phone the call is gone. The internet has persistent objects that can be manipulated, so it is also about cooperation and collaboration.
- Neil Kandalgaonkar
Technology sure makes that communication much easier, though. Long live Friendfeed!
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
I always thought the Internet was for porn. At least that's what I learned one year at SXSW.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, you still owe us (me and Joge) $5000, btw ;-)
- directeur
I think porn falls under the connecting people with shared interests and needs. ;-)
- Brian Sullivan
Hmmm -- I think saying the" internet is not about technology, it's about the communication" is like saying driving is not about the car, it's about the journey. I like John Dupuis' way of putting it -- the communication part was an emergent property -- Michael Neilson has interesting things to say on this topic, too, but I've gotta dash so I'll link later.
- Mickey Schafer
YAY, I love the internet. Couldn't agree more. GLOBAL unfettered communication amongst all peoples, socio-economic class, philosophy, etc. is what it's all about; whereas, the technology is there to support the communication layer. THAT is very important in the DESIGN of Information Systems.
- Susan Beebe
The following (wild) question just dawned on me: If in 1440—the approx. year of Gutenberg's press—a global electronic network had magically emerged instead, A) What purpose would the power structure at the time deem for it, and B) How would it actually be used within the first few decades? Hundred years?
- Micah Wittman
Neil: different communication formats have varying values for similar properties, such as bandwidth, delay, and rate of decay
- Mike Chelen
Neil: Good point about persistence, except that Twitter has objects called tweets that last only about 7 days ;)
- Alex Schleber
Alex: one compensating strength is that posts are publicly web accessible, allowing them to be independently mirrored
- Mike Chelen
High communication: words. Medium communication: pictures. Low communication: grunt, poke.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Internet = TV + Radio + Books + Newspapers + Magazines + Telephone + Soapbox + [add your medium] = Media melting pot
- Ciro
Actually, the Internet may be about the incarnation of cosmic consciousness, and may not be primarily about anthropocentric intraspecies communication. I only half jest -- sometimes species are only vehicles that don't necessarily understand their function in the big picture, or what they are birthing. With the Internet, one senses something trying to pull itself together that is bigger than human.
- Sean McBride
let's say it again: it's. com. mu. ni. ca. tion. :)
- Alberto D'Ottavi
+1 Mike Chelen; to Ciro, Alberto -- conflating function, social value, and technology diminishes the ability to understand what the "internet" is/does/could be, etc. The internet is not portable; certain technological devices are. The infrastructure that supports portability is inconsistent; radio rarely is. It's very difficult to "listen" to books using the internet; the internet is...
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- Mickey Schafer
I agree with you 100% - The connections made here can't be made anywhere else! The transparency and accessibility of people, good people, is prevalent!
- Angels In Action
I didn't read all the comments above, but I don't think it's just communication. It's also about knowledge, data, availability of knowledge and data. creativity, etc... I'm afraid with this situation of lots of social networks people are a bit too preoccupied by the community-factor. Internet is more than that. Please don't forget that.
- Ton Zijp
To Mickey: 1. "The Internet is not portable; certain technological devices are." splitting hair...Give me the Internet without the "technological devices" as you call them. 2. "The infrastructure is inconsistent..." Video is video, audio is audio...otherwise the TV is also inconsistent and so is the radio and books, I digress on this one. 3. " And I believe it is actually important to...
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- Ciro
Ton, I agree! Ciro -- As someone who teaches undergrads who have to use technology and the net, I can't afford to be blithe about "they can if they want to". One of my interests is the relationship between discourse and behavior, so for kicks, I conducted a survey last year to get a feel for how students related to tech developmentally. One overwhelming result was that sometime during...
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- Mickey Schafer
I don't agree. Technology IS COMMUNICATION. Please consider W.J. Ong's Orality & Literacy or Pierre Levy's essays. Our literacy is still evolving and that's possible just because we can write (and communicate) with different technologies. So... Nice quote indeed, but wrong.
- Matteo Balocco
Bruce: language, art, and gestures are all forms of communication technology, each of which can be used to greater or lesser effect
- Mike Chelen
Internet is technology, great and simple technologies which work well and so you can focus on communications stuff
- Luca Zappa
Mickey: internet access may not yet be a universal commodity like paper, yet this property can shift rapidly in degree, redefining its qualities. regarding user expectations, to some extent this may be addressed through improved software design, for example google docs automatically save every few seconds
- Mike Chelen
Matteo: is that different from saying that all communication is a form of technology?
- Mike Chelen
Mike, I'm afraid it is different. While communication is a natural competence shared by all the living beings, technology is just an optional layer for just a niche of them. So we may say that all the technologies carry some informations (and we must consider them communication) but certainly not all communication is a form of technology.
- Matteo Balocco
However we agree that this is nothing more than an academic discussion. The quote by Taylor is still really good for some slideshows. :)
- Matteo Balocco
Mickey, thanks for your feedback. I don't disagree with any of your latest observations regarding the importance of keeping machine (medium) and internet (content) separate and the dangers of not doing so...My point was simply directed at the idea that in the context of pure content utilization, the hardware such as the cables (or airwaves) as transport media and content presentation...
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- Ciro
Louis - he's fickle. Pay him no mind.
- anna sauce
I've never had braces. And who doesn't like pickles. WAIT, WHUT?
- Derrick
I was a terrible person and was more than fashionably late for brunch (see http://ff.im/b7rct). Louis and Glen so very nicely waited for me when they could have left. We talked tech the whole time I was there. Scoble would have loved it. Actually we did talk about the twins some so maybe not. :P
- EricaJoy
Great picture, Louis. Yes, Erica is beautiful with a great smile. Her blog is great, she speaks her mind!!
- Harold Cabezas
Anne... I am having enough problems with dress dynamics let alone walking in heels
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
<announcer voice> From the dictionary! As seen beside the entry "Hot Mess"! Ladies, gentleman and everyone in between, I give you... JOHNNY WORTHINGTON!!!! </announcer voice>
- nakachi
At first glance you look so much like my friend Rosemary that I was wondering how she got into your photo stream, but I recognized the dress from your previous shopping trip. Of course, Rosemary starts with 'R' also, although Rachel is much more fitting for this occasion and for you in general. Does Rachel get to keep the dress when you are done?
- Ragani Harris
Johnny, I'm lovin' it and all, but really: WHERE'S THE PIC OF RACHAEL'S COSTUME?? I wanna see how her rollergirl turned out!!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Drunky... I have pics... Give me a bit and ill fire up the Lightroom
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
The RSS should also be highly visible. One client has their RSS buried on a pop-up. Another, you have to email them monthly to get the RSS. Stupid.
- Admiral Anika
So agree with this-and so agree with Anika, that is soooo annoying when you have to look all over for the RSS icon...
- Harold Cabezas
the commercial world is very slow to leverage tech
- winckel
Geez. Where are all these tech idjits and why aren't they paying me to help them?!? *frustrated*
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Meh, RSS is so 2001...an API to friendfeed is now required.
- Alex Scoble
Or, they could just skip RSS and move on.
- Cliff Gerrish
The only problem with skipping RSS(/Atom) is that there is currently no other broadly adopted OPEN standard for pushing info out to those interested, other than email. Twitter is an optional proprietary complement, not a substitute for RSS.
- LogEx
I think you put too much faith in open standards :)
- Alex Scoble
<snark>reprehensible for businesses not to be using Twitter in the modern world</snark>
- JSNFLMNG
from iPod
Tina, I was just thinking that very thing. Also, LogEx, every time I think about skipping something like RSS I remember that my college-sophomore daughter relies on it heavily - and she basically thinks tech is something Daddies are for - and Moms only if it's a dire emergency - but certainly not Pricesses!
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
Jesse, yeah, email is kinda broked, but it's still the only thing that virtually everyone has.
- LogEx
I got tired of trying to take a decent, respectable, trustworthy, don't-look-stupid profile pic for my employment sites. So I took a MySpace-y photo to say hi to FriendFeed instead. Hi!
Things I note in this picture: the "MySpace angle" makes my eyes look baggy. And it's time for a haircut, though perhaps I'll cheap out and just have someone gimme some bangs.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
What's wrong with your Friendfeed picture? The seriousness gives a touch of personality.
- Jordi Soler
you have a very sexy and intense look to you. Your eyes are way intense-in a very good way....
- Morgan Haley
I'm not trying to replace my FF profile pic, Jordi. I'm trying to get a decent new pic for my 'official' profiles used in my job search. Right now they have the default goofy face (which is better than most of the shots I took, trust me!).
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
And Morgan, that's my "I DARE YOU to ask me to sell insurance!!!" look. Well, almost: I'm missing the snarl.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
For official profiles try one with glasses on (fake glasses if you don't use 'em). The sexy-dirty-secretary look is a winner!
- Jordi Soler
LOL! Jordi, that was the problem with the pics I took: I had my glasses on and either kept getting reflections in the lenses or inadvertantly crossing that dirty secretary look. Not what I wanted!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
i wouldn't dare try to sell you insurance....no way....but a rice cooker? Hmmm, maybe I'll try...
- Morgan Haley
The proper profile pic is important! The pic on my LinkedIn page is NOTHING like any of my other profile pics. I think you did a great job.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
I'm still without the proper profile pic, Tutivillus. This was me giving up and taking a shot for FF since the profile shots all made me look like a doofus. I are not a doofus! Wait...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina, if you can get your hands on a polarized filter for you camera, that'll solve your reflection problem with your glasses.
- Jason Huebel
I'd say that's like 4 on the richter scale of MySpacey photos :)
- anna sauce
I know, Jason, but the polarizing filter I have isn't for the camera I have. If I had a job I'd buy a new one, but then I wouldn't need the filter to take the picture if I had a job. Catch 22s suck...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I still don't have a pic on LinkedIn. Tina, I'm no photographer, but I bet if you had a little fill light you could de-emphasize the bags under the eyes. (I notice this with myself, because I am incredibly vain. And have giant bags under my eyes, even if I have enough sleep, etc etc)
- Andrew C
I'd say raise up your chin a tad, sit up straight, and place the camera on a pile of books with a liht source- lamp, etc. eye level and off to the side. It would lessen the bags and make it a little less MySpacey, also think of something funny and don't worry about averting your eyes. This is really done best by someone else- it's *so hard* to take a good self-portrait.
- anna sauce
OT, but how come FB doesn't have a portrait "style" like Myspace does?
- Andrew C
Andrew- it does, it's called "me and my kids" or "just my kids" or "me in foriegn country" or "me with a girl/boy cut out because we broke up" lol
- anna sauce
The picture I use practically everywhere is from my brother's wedding reception. I cropped out the Black and Tan beer I was drinking. That wouldn't be very professional. ;-)
- Jason Huebel
Wow, that's uncanny. You and I share no friends on FB AFAIK and yet you just described most of them.
- Andrew C
Just to clarify: this isn't one of my profile photo attempts. This is a cell pic taken with no light other than what's coming in a dirty window. Sad part is I wound up looking way less douchey in this than in my the actual attempts =P I think the profile photo will be tomorrow morning's challenge: take advantage of the morning light since I won't have to be at a farce of a job interview.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
srsly. this should be re-posted to the 'beautiful women' group. :)
- T. Brent, technopeasant
So what were you coding at the time you took this pic? In BASIC, you say? How very relevant!
- WorldofHiglet
In fact, I was attempting to hone my photography skills, as a portion of my research on the state of the unemployed in today's economy. Very deep stuff...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I look forward to your white paper in due course.
- WorldofHiglet
Random Passerby in the Cube Farm: WHO'S THAT; Me: That's my friend Tina, now go away; RPITCB (drooling): SHE'S PURRRRTY; Me: GO AWAY
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
We all know you rock Tina .... Can't understand why you haven't be 'scooped up' yet ..... Keep pluggin' !
- Charlie Anzman
Barry, that's freakin' hilarious! Tell them that if they stare too long I'll eat their soul or something equally weird and see what they do!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
very neat, intelligent glamor look site! ... too bad it's married - to Faith Bough. ..why can't ff have profiles just as mySpace, or ..similar big social sites ? has the development stopped again? ,
- Petr Buben
Wow, I just saw this today, sorry I'm late. I think it's a great pic for employment profiles. You've got an utterly beautiful face, Tina, and you certainly don't look like a douche in this pic. Good luck with everything!
- phil baumann
Hi Tina, don't know ya, but this is an ABSOFREAKINLUTELY great pic...those eyes, WOW!
- Samuel Ancira Jr
Way too many hormones in this thread's comments. Really, guys, come on, behave!...
- Zackatoustra
I should admit that this is as far as I'm willing to go with a costume and I've worn these for the past 3 years. I just change the name of the costume. Last year, I was Momalien and the year before, I was just an alien.
- Admiral Anika
This would make a great profile pic!! I like the one you have now, but 'tis the season and all of that.
- Katy S
Anika has one of the best smiles ever. It's contagious I tell you!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
LOL Katy, I won't change my profile pic until I find another HOT-DAMN-I-LOOK-FINE-YA'LL photo.
- Admiral Anika
This reminds me, I need to change several profile pics to my halloween pic.
- Katy S
What are you going to be for Halloween, Katy?
- Admiral Anika
Me. That's scary enough. I suppose I could be a crazy cat lady - that would be kind of funny to put together. I have the cats and people are always giving me crap with cats on it (because, if you own a cat you naturally want a denim shirt with kittens embroidered on it).
- Katy S
ROFL. *sings* I know what somone is getting for Christmas...
- Admiral Anika
I actually received that shirt for a birthday one year. I thank the heavens above it did not fit. If it isn't stuff like that or little porcelain cats, it's soppy stories about cats and the people who grow to love them. These are from people who know that I read Lovecraft and other scary stuff as bedtime reading. It's as if the fact that I have cats obliterates every other thing they know about me. *dreading Christmas*
- Katy S
@Trish - thanks, I must say I was pretty stoked when her name came to me :D .... and thank you everyone else! I'll let her know one day of all these wonderful people sending her birthday wishes! You are all awesome <3
- Penny
Thank you everyone for the birthday wishes for Mischa! She had an awesome day today with a party and lots of presents, balloons and even a Butterfly birthday cake :D
- Penny
My love, my dove, my angel, my reason for living... My bringer of ice cold coke. My maker of the best darn chow mien cabbagey thing. My stone cold fox. The maker of things better after a hard day with your quirky smile. The eyes I get lost in. The lips I love to kiss. The ears with no ear lobes (I'm sorry, it's freaky babe) The core of our family. The spark in our passion. The mother of a princess. The grace of a queen... My reason to smile... Happy Birthday
- Johnny Worthington
Gah.... Honestly, if you think FriendFeed is dead (or dying) what exactly is the point of talking about it at least once a day? If a good friend of mine was dying I wouldn't have a conversation everyday about them dying, I would STFU about it and enjoy the last days I had with them as much as I could. </end rant>
<restart rant> The other option of spending all your time with other friends talking about how the first friend is dying is even less classy and even more rude. Yeah, that's what it seems like when all you do is rant on Twitter about how FF is dying.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
You should never speak ill of the dead or dying ;-)
- Mary Carmen
Could not agree more. If the party sucks so much then leave, don't just sit around talking about how much it sucks.
- Amy
I agree with you, but I'm still not sure it's dying. Stasis does not necessarily equal death, even on teh intertubez.
- Jim Addz No Value
I'm not sure it's dying either, Jim. But going with my analogy above: talking to all your friends about how the first friend is dying when the first friend hasn't even been diagnosed is still rude and not classy.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
But if we don't say anything now, how will we be able to say "I told you so" once it does happen? Confused --->
- pea
Pea brings up a good point... Perhaps choose the side of good, spend all your time talking about how FF is just fine, and say "I told you so!" every day =D
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Going with your dying friend analogy, I think it also should be added that by telling your other friends that there is diminshed value of visiting the dying friend because they won't get anything out of it doesn't help
- Tamara
from iPhone
I love you all. I've been fighting the urge to participate in a certain Thread That Shall Not Be Named because I think it's the biggest bunch of blowhard douchebaggery I've ever seen. I wish I could find That Person's old posts where they were jerking off FF left & right & bashing Twitter, so I could cram it down their throat 50 times over. This place is far richer a social experience than Twitter or FB. If I wanted only to be heard but not listen, I'd live on Twitter. Oh wait, I guess that's what he wants.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
What kills me about the thread that shall not be named is that he is comparing apples to oranges. A fact that someone mentioned pretty early on in that thread so there was no need to say it again. But how can you compare a best of day search to a man-made list of pure tech related twitter accounts? Once I saw that, I knew there was no point in trying to have a discussion with him. Come back with something resembling logic and then maybe we can talk.
- pea
I know it's mostly about ego but sometimes I wonder if they keep saying things to keeping FF alive. Something is only dead whenever it is no longer talked about. He is clearly wrong on his stance, at least for now. Mark my words: Twitter will not be here in 10 years from now either, does that mean it is dead to me too? No, I use something until it no longer serves a purpose. To that...
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- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Rob, you must've posted from beyond the FF grave. :) Yeah, the original point of That Thread wasn't worth responding to because it was just a complete logical fallacy. My issue is with the Man Behind the Fallacy...he knows he has influence, he knows he's responsible for all those people leaving with his Chicken Little prophesying (which now looks more like Twitter proselytizing than...
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- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Some people want to hear themselves talk, and they're disappointed a big platform for their views is not going to get as big as they once hoped, so they want to burn the place down.
- Louis Gray
he is the most arrogant person I have known in alot of ways.... his post on Greader where he says.. "you have no friends" what an asshole.
- Rob Sellen :o)
Tinypants, note my lack of participation there as well. Finding ammo for your rebuttal is too easy, but it's best to just walk away.
- Louis Gray
I never really expected FF to go mainstream but I still enjoy the tool. I've noticed a lot of y'all pushing your activity through posterous and whatnot in the last few months - I'm sure we're all thinking the same things re: "what happens to my FF content if the lights go out". FF's still got some unique features that make it worth visiting regularly. I *still* get IMs from FF about...
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- Daniel J. Pritchett
I've seen a few recent threads with blowhard douchebaggery, but I think I know the one tinypants is talking about. I don't really see the point of proclaiming FF dead, especially when it's still an active site and still one of the best for handling conversation threads.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
@Louis: truer words were never spoken (both of your comments). I agree with Daniel that I never thought FF was really going to be this huge mainstream thing, but I knew (as did many folks here) that it was a good step in the right direction and worth my time. I enjoy the heck out of this place because I've met some of the nicest and most interesting people that I would not have discovered had I just curled up in my little corner of FB or Twitter. I can't wait to see what happens next. :)
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
the guy is just a drama queen and a hypocrite.....
- Rob Sellen :o)
Here's my perspective: my favorite places in the world aren't huge market leaders. My favorite coffee house is not Starbucks. My favorite store is not WalMart. My favorite quick restaurant is not McDonald's. Being the biggest does NOT always mean being the best in this world: why would the tech arena be any different than the rest of life in this regard?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
As long as there is a respectable level of sustained activity on FF, no one will dare to shut it off. Keep using this place as much as you can and it will be there. A drop in active accounts means less people dissed if FF goes down and the plug will be pulled.
- Pavan
So yes.. if someone says FF is dying, discuss along.. keep the conversation going.. say "Oh yeah!.. I think not".. the more you get people talking the less likely anything is going to go anywhere..
- Pavan
Pavan... scoble ain't that influential.. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
But he his Rob, for better or worse. Perhaps not with you, but certainly with others. As for whether or not there's "enough" tech discussion on FF: I don't go to a coffee shop to talk about coffee. I don't go to a restaurant to talk about food. I'm sure some people do (critics and reviewers jump to mind) but NOT the majority of people. Moreover, the critics and reviewers at a coffee...
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- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I think it is dying, not that I care anyway but I rarely use it anymore. I guess the die hards are keeping it going.... It is basically a public live feed message board, nothing special.
- orionstarr
More fool those who get influenced by him so much tina.... like that saying.. people would rather die than think.... in fact they do. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Thanks for this thread, Tina and everyone. I've been lurking more than participating here of late, mostly because I've been working too hard to do anything social, either virtually or IRL. That said, I agree that FF is by far the best tool for managing--make that HAVING--conversations. Beats hell out of Twitter, which is only okay even for its original purpose of making one-directional statements, or Facebook, with all of its scams, idiotic games, and irritating UI.
- Steve Lowe
steve the funny thing is... scoble said all what you said there about ff being way better than twitter... he is two faced....
- Rob Sellen :o)
Yep, I remember those days. He was one of the first people I followed on FF, in fact. Now, it's all about Twitter lists and how much Google Reader sucks. Whatever.
- Steve Lowe
exactly... it's boring now... he was who got me here. all he ever went on about was how crap twitter was....
- Rob Sellen :o)
Yeah, the Google Reader vitriol is one that really baffles me. It's one thing to say you like a service, but I don't get why there is a need to hate on another service.
- Matthew DeVries
this thread is far too lively for a funeral party! said that, I personally believe in reincarnation, therefore is ff is ever going to leave us it will most definitely reblossom somehow =) long live ff!
- Lui(gi) ►►
TBH I'm getting a little bored with the complaints about FriendFeed. So what that the Best of has little tech threads. That's down to who you subscribe to. Use the filters FF gives you and browse the topic-specific groups. And why are we still comparing FF and Twitter when they are 2 different services? Zzzzz :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Because he made a statement based on a gut instinct and now he has to make it be true. It's not good enough that he think so, it is important that others agree he is right.
- Eoghann Irving
OMGAWWwww is this topic of convo STILL ongoing; I've been away for a week annnnd bit still seems alive to me. Vos paroles exactement. // Your words exactly.
- sofarsoShawn
Two things: 1) I'm happy to see people coming around to my perspective on this blowhard; and 2) I have a sneaking suspicion that his influence is waning, which is why he's squawking louder than usual.
- cecily
from iPhone
I did a segment on my podcast about this two weeks ago. I'm amazed it still has traction. To me that means the user base really cares, which I knew, just confirmed. I love FF.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
from iPhone
Compare these two. FriendFeed has great pictures, but content that is, well, not interesting. Twitter, on right, has 6,000x better content but doesn't look as nice due to no pictures. Will Brizzly come to rescue?
- Robert Scoble
I hope somebody comes up with a fabulous client to maximize content and serve up more media
- Susan Beebe
And people wonder why I don't come here much anymore. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
FriendFeed used to be very heavy in tech discussions. Now it's rare I see a tech discussion on the "best of day" feed.
- Robert Scoble
The cap on the left is infinitely preferable to the right. I can't tell you how glad I am not to be inundated with tech stuff all day long. One man's trash...
- Jim Addz No Value
try PowerTwitter ...also, which service has 6000x more users? doesn't that affect content choices?
- .LAG liked that
I keep looking for the comments link on Brizzly.
- Tom Landini
PowerTwitter is a great add to the twitter website (Firefox add-on)
- Susan Beebe
There's more to talk about than just "tech", seriously...
- Rob Haas
Robert - Do you have any general news, world news Twitter lists/groups? I tried scrolling through you lists, but they all seem pretty tech-slanted. If Twitter is to replace Friendfeed and Google Reader, then we need to be able to get real news and information out of the thing.
- Matthew DeVries
The left is a best of day from your 28000 subscriptions. The right is a heavily curated list focused on something you are interested in. Try "best of" on a curated list (there is a link at the bottom of every list feed to best of for that feed).
- Benjamin Golub
agree totally with you Scoble, Bruce: adjusting wouldn't make a difference now
- ffcode
I know twitter is occupied with infrastructure and list improvements, but you would think they could be building brizzly-esque features pretty easily.
- Sean Montgomery
Sean - right. Twitter has to stablize their platform, then focus on UIX
- Susan Beebe
Matthew: I'm a geek. Other people are doing news lists. I might start one, though. You are the second person to ask for one.
- Robert Scoble
and there aren't tech discussions here one of the prime reasons are Scoble left and he is usually followed by around 10k folks everywhere, and his predictions affect all, weak or strong minded
- ffcode
I find it a fascinating observation: Twitter is better than FriendFeed because there's more tech discussions in my feed. Is that the criteria you use for judging other social media sites? Because, IMHO, social media is about connecting people, not about tech discussions.
- Mistletoe Glen
ffcode: sorry, I'm tracking the geek participation here and sorry, the really geeky stuff has definitely gone down.
- Robert Scoble
always wondered how your feed would look like but it is clear you are no different ;)
- ffcode
Robert - I come to you because you're the best list builder and analyzer of signal to noise.
- Matthew DeVries
Glen: sorry, where the geeks go generally the general public follows. Generally. And, anyway, compare this stuff to Facebook. Even there it's a loser, sorry. I watch my wife's feed all the time and compare it to FriendFeed and FriendFeed loses. She said "ew" when she saw my page here.
- Robert Scoble
Glen: by the way, I can make such a screen shot for a bunch of different genre's, not just tech. Twitter has far more diversity and has far more flow of all kinds. http://listorious.com 's huge first weekend demonstrates that.
- Robert Scoble
Jim: if you don't want just tech, check out http://listorious.com -- what list would you like? In one weekend Twitter got more diversity thanks to lists than FriendFeed did in 18 months. And no "ew" pictures.
- Robert Scoble
You still have to come here. It's mandatory
- Charlie Anzman
sad one of the best place is going down like this and it is going the way every other social network is "just for fun"....:(
- ffcode
Charlie: I do, but now you know why I don't show off FriendFeed at conferences anymore.
- Robert Scoble
FriendFeed's still here. Unfortunately when Scoble, FriendFeed's top user goes, so go the users.
- Jesse Stay
number of places on the twitter display where you could see an inline discussion: zero.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
I follow Scoble, but I'm not going anywhere, Jesse.
- Jim Addz No Value
Either that, or this just means FriendFeed has gone mainstream, and is no longer just tech users any more ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse - Robert left Twitter for quite a while (well, not left, but just had it parroting his FF) and it didn't seem to hurt Twitter any. Robert can't make or break a service all by himself.
- Matthew DeVries
I guess I just don't get it. My Facebook connects me with friends I haven't seen in years and relatives I contact rarely. With Facebook, I can keep in touch far better than I ever have in my life. I learn about my cousin in the ICU with pneumonia, and my good friend in Indiana who just had a grandson. The whole format is not compatible with tech discussions; the length restrictions...
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- Mistletoe Glen
@Cristo: +3000. @Robert: Change your subscriptions. You just haven't curated your worldview here as much lately. Things change, so must your prism.
- AJ Kohn
as usual, Robert's death of FF posts shoot up the charts. get it?
- Steve Gillmor
Matthew, see my second comment. I think some of it is that FriendFeed's userbase has changed as well. It's not the tech early adopters any more. I expect with Facebook's acquisition it will become more so that case.
- Jesse Stay
My point being this comparison doesn't mean much
- Jesse Stay
What is "geek" to you Robert? Because I've been seeing plenty of "geek" posts in the subscriptions and rooms I follow here on FriendFeed.
- Itachi
Mehmet: geek is someone talking about technology or talking about building something or excited about using such. Do you see any geek in the friendfeed screen shot? I don't.
- Robert Scoble
Bruce: is that the best example you got? All those items have no discussion!
- Robert Scoble
And like Tom's comment [keep looking for comments link on Brizzly] LOL!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
o.O Louis is pretty geeky. His kids already have Macbooks.
- Matthew DeVries
The most active discussions I've seen on FriendFeed lately are only when someone proclaims or laments its decline. Sad but true.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Robert, twitter=no conversation. I'll deal with the 'ew' pictures by simply using the 'hide' button, that's why it's there. You go your way, I'll go mine. It's all good.
- Jim Addz No Value
do anybody no why Scoble can't just leave us alone. Friendfeed is dying according to him, no need to make it a self fulfilling prophecy. The more you "high profile" users criticize FF the faster folks will leave it.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
Coding geeks communicate best with code. Neither twitter nor FriendFeed let you indent. So there's going to be more sharing and less conversation for coders.
- Bruce Lewis
Robert ,the best of the day are comments and likes on a post ,not content. all the contents from Twitter,blogs,Rss etc are here and its better to get them here or in public groups or in private , I am not sure that on Twitter ppl are acting ,they are just reading same as here
- Johni Fisher
agree with Steve Gillmor, users are here but they are doing things way different now than they used to when Scoble was around
- ffcode
agree more than 100% that "those" tech talks are just gone
- ffcode
You're comparing a hand crafted twitter list to friendfeed's user-generated best-of-day?
- Andy Bakun
Gunny, give the guy a break. He feels forced to be on twitter and misses the conversations on FriendFeed. Did you look at the right-hand picture from twitter? No conversation happening there at all. Zero. I can't imagine hanging out there all day.
- Bruce Lewis
Cristo: try seeing feed around those times when there when acquisition talks
- ffcode
Why can't there be a friendly friend feed and a tech friend feed? Is there no other use for the internet than to talk about the internet?
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Tech and coding news is primarily what I look for in FriendFeed, and I find it. Conversation happens, as well as users bumping things up with likes. Subscriptions (friends and rooms) help filter tech content that I want to see. A like is sometimes as good as a comment.
- Itachi
and Andy: you are yourself stating what Scoble has been saying all the way twitter is place where you can get your taste now not here anymore
- ffcode
Robert- regarding your early early comment- I find it refreshing that FF isn't about tech
- anna sauce
Does Plurk get this much attention about its inevitable death? Now there's a service that could really use the wake-up call.
- Mark Trapp
Robert never got infatuated with Plurk, Mark.
- Itachi
Robert most of the change is in the place that you decided to open a subject and to post ,I remember 3 months ago your posts here were with tooons of comments and interest and from the day that you are posting your Twitter FAV here, there is not much action ,just think on that ,I like to read your Twitter FAV but I would better have them in a group and get yr posts like in the past
- Johni Fisher
Yeah, you're pretty geeky there when you have to search how to make screenshots
- KapitanObvious
To be honest, any social network with content governed by who you're subscribed to, and having image media in a feed is going to come up with something you don't like. This is because no one is on topic all the time, especially on Twitter. If you want sanitized feeds from *only* tech experts, geeks and what have you, these sort of services aren't going to cut it for you....
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- Mo Kargas
I sure like the interaction here, comments, community...this post shot over to Twitter, but there is nothing going on there about it.
- Eric Matas
@Eric Yes exactly, to me it looks like a glorified RSS stream from different sources, fundamentally a list of content and that's it. The topics Robert is after may not be present on FF, but the conversation is far more intuitive.
- Mo Kargas
"glorified RSS stream"...pretty much sums it up.
- Itachi
Hey GUISE, we're forgetting that the list on the right will fail-whale often as twitter never seems to remember how to run their servers. As to the content on the left not being interesting, well...at least I know it's real people who aren't trying to get me to buy into some new brand or some interchangeable tech company that will just be bought by facebook one day and disappear. :)
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
I just can't wait for the day that Scoble ditches Twitter for the junk it is. Should give me a good laugh.
- Itachi
Twitter has no "ew" pictures because it has no pictures. You can use the fftogo option that turns off media if you want no pictures.
- Bruce Lewis
For conversations, friendfeed wins. For tons of blabbers and links, twitter wins. But agreed, activity has gone down heavily on friendfeed. Twitter mania has caught everyone.
- Amit
One anecdote deserves another. I've posted on FF regularly for 1.5 years. I comment frequently on others' tech posts, but most of my own posts are not strictly tech-angled. This week I asked "FriendFeeders : NEED ADVISE: Best all-around value Netbook today - which one?" and it got 16 LIKES and 20 COMMENTS. The last time one of my posts hit/surpassed that threshold was early August http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Micah Wittman
One thing I noticed is no conversations. Just straight links to other sites. Kind of boring.
- Todd Hoff
BTW is it possible to stop getting the twitter updates from others on Friendfeed? Slowly I am seeing my friendfeed aggregating only the twitter updates.
- Amit
Yeah, you can Amit. Just click "hide" on a tweet you see in FF, and then choose to "hide other items like this one"...and go from there.
- Itachi
Robert is just being Robert, always stirring things up! LOL, I really do ♥ you for it though.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Wait, you were all like ' I LOVE FF ' this summer. Singing your praises on the TWiT network and all that jazz. You're even more of a fair weather fan than Minnesotans with our sports teams.
- Clark Baumgartner 蔵明 馬武刀
No hatin' on the Vikings here, they try hard :p
- Itachi
Twins? Timberwolves? Wilds? Take your pick if the Vikings don't do it for yeh.
- Clark Baumgartner 蔵明 馬武刀
You know what makes me laugh... People who use FriendFeed in other languages probably don't see this or any of the stuff Robert is interested in...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
BTW... Heaven forbid we actually have fun on a Sunday... Your lawn's that way
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
You're really going to show me Wall Street Journal on your Twitter feed and compare that to Friendfeed's personal interaction? You know better, Robert.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
from iPhone
One of the nice things about Friendfeed is the way you can hide a post like this and not see it ever again. It would be nice to have a way to filter posts from specific people if they contained certain words such as twitter, lists, dead, or friendfeed. :)
- SuezanneC Baskerville
""glorified RSS stream" - yeah, except my RSS feeds have been culled down to sources that add their own insightful commentary so it's not an endless stream of retweets of _all the same damn links repeated over and over_. That Twitter screenshot looks really information-light once the repeats are filtered out...
- Andrew C
The Friendfeed screenshot shows 222 total interactions in the first three entries. The twitter one shows 14 (and I'm counting the one at the bottom that is cut off). Oh wait, those aren't interactions, those are links to other places.
- Andy Bakun
I think Robert is just confusing the point of the site. The name is FRIEND Feed, not interesting feed, useful feed, news feed, etc. This is where I hang out with my friends.
- Chrimmus Tad
Robert, you're cool and everything, but sometimes the things you post make me think of you as an arrogant asshole. The beauty in friendfeed is that there are so many different flavors to sample from. There are plenty of sites to go to that are tech heavy if that is what you are looking for. Why bother here if it's not what you want? Move on and shut the fuck up about it. Jesus.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
For someone who doesn't like Friendfeed or thinks Friendfeed doesn't offer as much value as twitter, he sure does post here a lot.
- Andy Bakun
This is exactly the kind of post I don't want in my feed. Adjusting my subscriptions now. Sorry Robert, but I gotta block you on Friendfeed. See you on Twitter.
- Rodfather
Robert. You are stating the obvious: of course friendfeed is going to decline: there is no more engineering or innovation power behind it! The key question is: "is a friendfeed++ going to reborn as part of facebook and have a much more profound impact?". The jury is still out but knowing the quality of the team I would not bet against it.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
I think this post is very rude to the posters in your screenshot, especially the second two. They are sharing themselves and their lives with us. If that doesn't interest you, unsubscribe or hide but to call them out and mock them as 'sad' is, well, sad. FriendFeed is full of people that I enjoy discussing all kinds of topics with, including technology, but they are more than just early...
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- joey
Thank you Joey. I find the screen shot to be particularly offensive considering the tenor of the post. Stop being a jerk Robert.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Holden: I have removed my Twitter favorites from FriendFeed because of your post and my Twitter account too.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Scoble, you need to clean your Twitter DM's like stat.
- Outsanity
@Robert - Just because FriendFeed isn't 90% tech and personal branding posts doesn't mean it doesn't have value. You used to be such a big proponent of lists here and molding your subscriptions so they were full of info but not noise... now that you've neglected your pruning efforts and gone over to Twitter then your feed is full of more noise (to you) than info. It's not FriendFeed's...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
Her Lindsay-ness: sorry, so many geeks have left and there are just more interesting information (FOR ME), more interesting conversations (FOR ME), and I'm learning a lot more over on Twitter (ABOUT WHAT I WANT TO LEARN). FriendFeed HAS changed and that's OK! For you. Not for me. And, sorry, I looked at rejiggering my accounts here, but the info just isn't coming here and Twitter is...
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- Robert Scoble
Then go away. What the fuck. Why keep coming back here to make posts about how horrible it is. It just makes you look like more of an asshole than you intend to be I'm sure. Seriously. If you think there is no value in it, then it's kinda counter-productive to keep posting here, right? You act like the guy that graduated high school but keeps coming back hanging out at lunch and during pep rallies. It's a little bit creepy. What is it that you hope to gain by that?
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
I agree with Gunny. YOU caused the mass exedus from Friend Feed Robert, by announcing its demise. Let's see what would happen if instead of moaning about its lack of techy feeds, you began promoting it instead. Look on it as an FF experiment.
- Sandra Large
I like reading your stuff Rob but yeah --- if you're only going to come here to diss FF, perhaps you should just exit FF completely. Also, it's a FACT that Twitter is inferior to FriendFeed based on communication alone because look...here I am, discussing this topic and others can follow along w/o having to search through random comments and pages [they can even comment easily also! *gasp*!]. FF probably will die eventually, but Twitter was freakin' stillborn. Just a glorified RSS service...
- Scott Carmichael
Its all becoming a Robert Scoble 'self fullfilling prophecy' lately on here. You can't have a conversation on Twitter like this, twitter is a newsreel of headline news, that's all its good for, Friend Feed is as its name implies, a feed for friends to discuss anything under the sun, and not just about technical stuff.
- Sandra Large
I don't agree that a person who's become dissatisfied with a service should leave. I've often heard change should come from within. With that said, I'm not sure Robert is pushing for positive change. Can it occur? With Zuckerberg calling the shots, maybe not. Maybe he owns every idea that the FFounders will ever have for the next few yrs, keeping those changes for Zuck's baby. Maybe FF will improve, & maybe the techies who were drowned out on Twitter will find they can be seen & heard here. Who knows?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
You can't blame Robert for the fact that the FF guys sold out AND left the ship more or less rudderless. If they had bothered to figure out even a tiny bit of a PR strategy around the take-over, then things might not have gone downhill so fast, or at all. And, yes, you can filter out all of the emo stuff (nothing wrong with it BTW, but that can be had from your IRL friends on Facebook)...
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- Alex Schleber
Robert: accepting the accuracy of observations about the amount of interesting conversations from your perspective, there still remains a question regarding what could be the cause? while one theory may be a decline in friendfeed activity, another possibility is the decline in your own activity. what evidence can support one hypothesis over the other?
- Mike Chelen
methinks a service can go on without an ego? personally i pop back here every now and again for the occasional conversation. i'd prefer more intelligent discussions on here, not just tech related, maybe i'm not following enough people? eh.
- Terry O'Fee
+1,000 joey. "emo stuff" that can be "found on Facebook"? LOTS of arrogance on display here from several directions. Alex, I know that you're tempering your statement by saying that there's nothing wrong with "emo stuff", but that's still awfully dismissive. FF is more like a number of simple blogs because the whole world can access the posts. FB is a walled garden, and tends to be way more dumbed-down (except for when I look at the FF people I'm subscribed to in FB).
- Kamilah Gill
Well if FriendFeed has nothing else going for it, I can at least read a deep exchange of ideas here as to why it's toast. Perhaps thats why I'm sticking. Btw, slightly off topic, but am I the only one finding Twitter list creation a complete chore compared to doing the same on FriendFeed?
- JSLeFanu
I don't see the problem. My pecs dominate your feed. Who can complain about that?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Rahsheen, it's ok to let the one's own fun part of life intersect one's social media sphere http://friendfeed.com/tad... , but not when it's someone else and it can be used in the wrong context to misappropriate a point.
- Micah Wittman
It amazes me how people will continue to use a service just to complain about it. Just STFU and GTFO.
- Steve Lowe
Micah, I don't follow what you're saying...
- Kamilah Gill
Robert - Just make Twitter fix the 140 character limit thing already!
- Matthew DeVries
then it would be a blog or what a tumble log?
- ffcode
strange people resist so much even when they know this is it
- ffcode
Kamilah, fair point. I'll explain without sarcasm. Robert's shower photo was a bit of fun that is fine and doesn't represent the whole of his on- or off-line contribution. Andy's photoshopped photo of Rahsheen doesn't represent the whole of Andy's contribution (which is very much technical, btw) or by extension the community's many contributions through the friendfeed medium. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
- Micah Wittman
Robert, I am considered a "geek" by a number of people, but I don't need or want to talk about technology 24/7. I have other interests and I like to see where they connect. I want to see coalescence. I can't get disparate connections always watching or listening to the same track. Even Richard Feynman believed that...as do many others in other "geek" fields. When I was little I happened...
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- Melanie Reed
Robert, are you reading the tech related groups? If you read Best of you are going to get all sorts of stuff as you know. I have lists and saved searches for specific topics and browse them for the likes of tech. Best of it not the best place for tech only (well any single topic).
- Kol Tregaskes
I've come to the conclusion that all of Robert's posts must be read with one fact kept in mind. Even when he doesn't say it, his posts are based on the assumption that many/most people want and like what he wants.
- Eoghann Irving
Robert, why do you constantly feel the need to shake the death rattle? We are well aware that FF is dying and even more aware that you see it coming. If you really did care about the service you would try to reverse the trend instead of speeding it up.
- Jason Williams
from iPhone
Robert I joined FF when I saw you singing praises of it on Twitter and have been loving it ever since, you seem to have a lot of interesting stuff to say, and a lot of people follow you. But, you seriously need to stop coming to FriendFeed and doing everything in your considerable power to kill it, and then complain because you are successful in doing that. Twitter is for people who like shouting through megaphones in a crowd of people shouting through megaphones, FF is for people who like conversations.
- Ed Millard
@edmillard ..said the man who only imports one thing into FF, his Twitter account.. seriously though. Scoble can't kill FF because it's already dead, it just doesn't know it yet. And yes, I am still using it for a bit because it makes such a handy searchable archiving/surfacing tool, and for some aspects of the community. But the reality is that FF founder's sold out b/c they were lacking confidence that they could change FF sufficiently/quickly enough to sustain any real growth.
- Alex Schleber
So FriendFeed founders gave up and sold out to Zuckerberg more or less for the liquidation value, i.e. for their IP and continued highly-skilled/paid labor for FB. It's that simple. Thinking about it any other way is a fantasy. 5 Stages of Grief... And yes, it pains me to say it. Had high hopes for this platform. I wish they would have found a way to evolve FF where it would have continued to grow, I don't think they were very far off. It's like the gold-miners who gave up 10 ft from the mother lode.
- Alex Schleber
Alex you are mistaken, most of my recent posts are from FF and sometimes cross posted to Twitter if they are short and not FF specific. I didn't know the FF etiquette that twitter posts are shunned when I started. Most of my limited time here is spent in comments anyway, since I prefer the conversations to the megaphone.
- Ed Millard
@Ed "Twitter is for people who like shouting through megaphones in a crowd of people shouting through megaphones, FF is for people who like conversations." You basically summed up my blog post about this whole thing (http://friendfeed.com/bluecoc...)...
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Lindsey, same concept, yours was thorough, mine was short. I think part of being a geek is we opt for the superior tech, not the popular tech. FB and Twitter are popular but inferior for conversation. I had no interest in them until I found FF recently. Its a problem we geeks are letting Zuckerberg kill the superior tech here with his checkbook. I'm thinking we should launch an open friend feed like directeur is talking about, free of business conflicts. It is the geek thing to do but it would be hard.
- Ed Millard
One bad day does not mean it is bad for the whole year :)
- ashish
don't you ever get tired of hitting refresh every other minute?
- Giancarlo Caparo
LOL, let's see you sort though hundreds of reply of Twitter, shoot a video of that...
- Robert Higgins
ZING! I shared a lame joke a few minutes ago, Susan! http://ff.im/aTQG6 I don't feel really bad about it. That's true, many people know me as a developer, but I'm not only that. I'm a jazz/anime/languages... LOVER :)
- directeur
If only someone would have told Robert that his feed is his own creation and if he is unhappy there is only one place to look fir the reason. Oh, wait...
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from iPod
seriously, talk about mis-matched comparisons. This general list is less focused than that built-for-a-purpose list? Well, no offense, but no shit, Sherlock.
- Chieze Okoye
Hail the conquering hero! Congrats a wonderful show, D. Does Monday seem a little sweeter for it? :)
- Ayşe E.
I'm trying, Steve! Ayşe, today is wonderful, for a multitude of reasons. One being the chocolate croissant on my desk, but not for my hair being in the in-between stage. Do I buzz it? Grow it out? This is what it sounds like when the doves cry. Or I think too much. :)
- Derrick
Your hair being at the in-between stage and my hair being at the in-between stage looks very very different.
- Imitation lris
from iPod
To a rancher like me, who raises cattle, goats and turkeys the traditional way (on grass), the studies show only that the prevailing methods of producing meat — that is, crowding animals together in factory farms, storing their waste in giant lagoons and cutting down forests to grow crops to feed them — cause substantial greenhouse gases. It could... - http://tiffanybbrown.tumblr.com/post...