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Top 10 Tips for Getting Attention on Flickr, All Fresh and New for 2008 - http://thomashawk.com/2008...
Alex Williams, Dennis Goedegebuure, Benjamin Golub and 113 other people liked this
Good article. I guess you've got to work smart to get noticed on Flickr.
- Adam Christie
Very good advice, Thomas. A comment on no. 6 ("Groups"): I remember Flickr staff mentioning that not only photos that are in too many groups (more than 10-15, as a rule of thumb) get penalties for their Explore rating. Allegedly, this is also true for photos that are in the *wrong* groups, specifically the ubiquitous "post 1, comment x" groups. So not all photo critique groups might be good when you want to get your pictures into Explore.
- Ole Begemann
Ole, I hadn't heard that certain groups penalized photos but have seen Flickr staff in the past mention that posting your photo to too many groups will reduce it's visibility with their algorithm.
- Thomas Hawk
Re: no. 5 ("Explore"): more criteria that seem to influence whether a photo makes it to Explore: the presence of EXIF data, geotags, title, description has a positive influence; faves and comments from people who are not among your contacts seem to count more than from contacts; faves and comments from popular photographers count more than those from nobodys; a photo that gets 2 or 3 faves within minutes after uploading is more likely to make Explore than one that gets faved 15 times within 24 hours.
- Ole Begemann
Thomas, I'll try to find a reference for this.
- Ole Begemann
Good point on EXIF data Ole, yes, photos in Explore are required to have EXIF data. My own guess as to why this is is that if a photo has EXIF data it is more likely to be your own photo vs. something you simply ripped from the web. Not foolproof of course but I'd guess that this policy is in part due to a desire to increase the authenticity of the photos promoted on Explore.
- Thomas Hawk
If you look at the photos in Explore, the only "Leave a comment" groups that I see with any regularity are TWTME and 1-2-3 groups... what makes them special I'm not sure, other than they're amongst the largest groups in general. But you see very few of those award groups or "leave x comments" groups in the photos in Explore, so I suspect that Flickr must be penalizing them.
- Eric P
Thomas, that's a great refresher on the original article. Some great tips.
- Tom Quinn
And Thomas, throwing reciprocation in as a "bonus"? It should have been #1 or #2. The vast, vast, vast majority of comments and faves that I receive are from people whose stream I previously visited. The only real exception to that is when a photo is high in Explore, which results in a torrent of views/comments/faves from strangers.
- Eric P
Yep Eric. Reciprocation is very high. Bonus tip might not be the best place for it. It's very important. Faving back when people fave your work, commenting back. Adding people back as mutual contacts, etc. All encourage activity on your photostream.
- Thomas Hawk
Eric, participation groups don't penalize your photo from Explore best I can tell. This photo http://www.flickr.com/photos... from a few weeks ago was in the Deleteme Uncensored critique group and was #3 on Explore as well.
- Thomas Hawk
In fact just searching flickr for the save10 tag from the DMU critique group along with "explore" brings up a number of photos: http://www.flickr.com/search...
- Thomas Hawk
Good post, *IF* getting attention is important to you, as opposed to using it as a vehicle to just share photos with people
- Eric Rice
After I read your original article on Flickr popularity a while back, I began reciprocating every comment received. That worked very well.
- Tom Harrison
Eric, true. Some people have no interest in their photos receiving attention. I do think that the majority of people posting on Flickr though do appreciate when their photos receive some attention. Lots of people do not though. I have friends that only publish private photos that their friends can see and opt out of every public aspect of Flickr. I think these people though are the exception rather than the norm and think that Caterina's quote is pretty typical of the most active users on the site.
- Thomas Hawk
Thanks for digging my article Aaron! :) http://digg.com/arts_cu...
- Thomas Hawk
Alright, I found something. Flickr staff member acknowledged almost 2 years ago that "groups that force people to comment/fave on certain photos with no choice" do in fact hurt your Explore chances. Also, "weight of comments and favorites from contacts is quite low in interestingness calculation." (http://www.flickr.com/groups...). A very old post and the algorithm has changed since then but we can probably say that the gist of it is still true.
- Ole Begemann
interesting Ole. I hadn't seen that. I think it would be difficult for Flickr to manually track every group that encourages tags and comments as participation. Per the links above though, photos in DMU have definitely made it into Explore anyways.
- Thomas Hawk
Yeah, I have no idea how they maintain a list of the "bad" groups. Further below, SilentObserver mentions his business is writing algorithms to filter them out automatically, though.
- Ole Begemann
Here's another good summary of nearly everything the community knows about the Explore algorithm: http://www.flickr.com/groups...
- Ole Begemann
Here is an example of tagging. I did not know this woman was a celebrity until after got this shot. It appears on the first page of the image search engines and it has received over 12,000 views. http://flickr.com/photos...
- Russellreno
So far I got 3 (!) photos into explore. Their common factor? They all were faved by you (TH) soon after I posted theim.
- Guillaume Lemoine
Flickr used to say "who" faves your shots was a part of the Explore algorithm. It wouldn't surprise me if the algorithm weights faves by different people from the Flickr community differently. For instance, Pro accounts where people actually have paid for the service might be weighted higher than non-Pro accounts. More active users might carry more weight with their faves then less active users. Just speculating on this part.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas - I don't think that participation in all groups gets a penalty, just that there are some groups that are penalized as far as Explore is concerned. I simply don't see Explore photos in "Post 1, Comment X" groups - so either there's no explore-worthy photos in those groups (not likely IMHO), or Flickr is penalizing the photos in those groups.
- Eric P
such a great post Thomas, thanks for writing it
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
As a note to certain groups penalizing your photos...I had a photo (http://www.flickr.com/photos...) that went to explore spot 150 or so. After, I added it to a few groups to see if I could bump it higher. It had the opposite affect and immediately dropped off. I can't say which group exactly did it or if it was the number of groups I submitted to, but adding to groups definitely does come with some sort of penalty.
- Justin Korn
If you use FeedBurner, you can splice your Flickr photos into your blog feed. I have it splice my last two photos and I find those have at least 5x the number of views as the ones that aren't in my spliced feed.
- Mike Hussein Cohen
Awesome post Thomas. I signed up for Flickr a couple of years ago, but only started using it more regularly after the purchase of a digital SLR camera - so this post is particularly relevant to me. I am still patiently waiting for that first comment/favourite on one of my photos to truly experience the emotions as described by Caterina Fake.
- Jeff Smith
Thanks for this post, Thomas. Great tips!
- Eric Johnson
Great article Thomas... I was also wondering about what my friend calls 'Shooting for the 75'. That is, a great majority of people only ever see a 75 x 75px thumbnail of your photo. When he processes, he always does a square crop to test how it looks in the frame. Would you like to see proportional thumbnails as an option?
- Johnny Worthington
I actually really like the square thumbnails. Heck I really like the square crop period. I think I'm cropping more and more of my photos 4x4 these days. Maybe it's just that I've always loved medium format photography so much, not sure why I'm so drawn to the square crop right now though. I much prefer Flickr's square thumbnails actually. Still would love to see larger sizes on FF like SmugMug's thumbnails.
- Thomas Hawk
you're right though. Frequently it's the thumbnail that draws people into a photo. A good looking thumbnail is more likely to be selected by viewers for clicking through to full size viewing, commenting, faving, etc.
- Thomas Hawk
One of my very first Flickr experiences was someone in a critique group cutting me down for a square crop. It was a rose in a perfect spiral petal pattern, could only be cropped square as far as I was concerned. LOL...I didn't change it either.
- Karoli
Haha, that's funny Karoli. so much of the criticism in critique groups on Flickr is so lame. You should have seen the deleteme critique group ravage a Henry Cartier Bresson photograph who is probably considered by most photo historians as the greatest photographer who ever lived. Read some of these comments on this photo for a laugh: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Thomas Hawk
I used to work to get photos into explore. I think I probably take better pictures now, but I don't have the time at the moment to put in the work. Lots of community building and commenting went into the mix. I confess, there's a real rush to hitting the front page. I had three in the top 10, and it was a lot of fun.
- Karoli
I have been doing a lot of panoramic shots over the past year and I have started to play around with vertical cropping. Taking a portrait photo and cropping a really tight vertical crop: http://www.flickr.com/photos... It's all about how the picture looks to you in the end. Square, circle or hexagon, it's about the sensory reaction :) (and now I'm going to square crop for this week just to try it out, thanks guys)
- Johnny Worthington
Thomas, those comments are a hoot! I met some nice people in some of the critique groups, but it didn't take me long to know the critiques weren't helping. I do love Flickr's community...even if I haven't spent a lot of time in it lately.
- Karoli
yeah, the attention from Explore can be fun. But I'm pretty unimpressed with a lot of the photos there. I think Flickr could do a much better job with that algorithm. I do find filtering explore just by my contacts though produces more consistently interesting photographs for me. I use this script to do just that: http://www.drewmyersphoto.net/flickr_...
- Thomas Hawk
Agree on the photo quality on Explore. Seems like a lot of the same sort of gimmicky stuff lands there. Looking forward to trying the script.
- Karoli
Thanks for the article, that opened my eyes up a lot
- Alex Carpenter
Hey Karoli, here's you and your daughter by the way. I uploaded this to Zooomr a while back when I was taking a break from Flickr but uploaded it tonight on Flickr. Great fun on that photowalk. http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Thomas Hawk
Hey, cool! Thanks for the pointer. It was a great photowalk, would love to do another sometime soon!
- Karoli
Here is one more way to get attention: Comment on this post with a link to one of your photos. I received a hit today from the comment about. http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Russellreno
Good stuff. Worked for me: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Demetri Mouratis
CNN analyst checks Facebook during debates [Great Moments In Journalism] - http://valleywag.com/5064271...
Harrison Hoffman, Susan Beebe, Reg Saddler (Zaibatsu) and 3 other people liked this
Umm.... a lot of CNN'rs were checking all their social networks tonight, getting real time feedback. Participated myself with someone on the panel via Twitter. Isn't this what they are supposed to do?
- michael sean wright
look at what he's looking at on the screen in the picture - that's the key :)
- MG Siegler
I can't make it out. What is it?
- michael sean wright
facebook
- MG Siegler
Ok, CNN was encouraging people to go to the CNN Facebook app. I see that it's Facebook, a lot of the panel was doing the same. I think VW has it wrong though, that's Toobin.
- michael sean wright
ESPN comes to the iPhone — with an addicting bar game - http://venturebeat.com/2008...
Harrison Hoffman, Mike Doeff and Frederic liked this
i think we have a guaranteed top app here.
- MG Siegler
added a quick and dirty video of it in action as well just in case you've never played this game at a bar.
- MG Siegler
A little iPhone organization would be nice - http://www.veronicabelmont.com/2008...
Ingo, Charlie Anzman, felix and 9 other people liked this
Definitely agree. I have a feeling they'll be fixing this.
- MG Siegler
This post is dedicated to Daynah, who "nudged" me into blogging more! :)
- Veronica
MG, yeah, I'm really hoping to see this soon. Not sure why it wasn't there right out of the gate though...
- Veronica
Honestly they need to incorporate this in all 3 areas, the App Store, your own App Folder and the Apps on the phone itself. The Apps store is messy at best, the sub directories or are ok, but really not that useful. Not to mention you cant sort by say, sub directory, free, date and search name. Then like you said, once you have it, its in your apps able to sort them and it sync to the phone. Hurry up and study programing so you can get this done for us quick quick k :)
- Socom
The app updating problem on the iPhone (not iTunes) is just sloppy and unnecessary. Very un-Apple.
- Harrison Hoffman
I think Apple overestimated how much we all like the apps wiggling when you move them :)
- MG Siegler
sigh. friendfeed and twitter not only suck the ideas for blog posts out of my head, they also suck all the comments off the blog post!
- Veronica
Veronica, welcome to the power of twitter and friendfeed! :)
- imabonehead
heh.. ok got that subtle hint.. lol
- Socom
Veronica - you have my permission to pretend to be me and republish my comments on your blog if it makes you feel better. the pretending to be me is the key part though. you must be in character when you do so.
- MG Siegler
Veronica, that's why I turned off comments on my meager blog. But if you use WordPress, there's a plug-in that will integrate FF comments back into your blog.
- Paul Reynolds
Paul, that is an excellent idea. MG, how could I ever POSSIBLY hope to pull that off :)
- Veronica
Veronica - it's all about the glasses. that's all you really need. speaking in the batman voice is purely bonus.
- MG Siegler
MG - Agreed. I love the icon jiggle as much as the next guy, but this is just ridiculous. :)
- Harrison Hoffman
The plug-in: http://blog.slaven.net.au/wordpre... (couldn't paste the URL from the iPhone- grrrrr)
- Paul Reynolds
Just added the plugin! Can't see it though at the moment, I think I VDoS'd myself.
- Veronica
I haven't used it, but I've seen it running several places. You may need to edit/update the entry? An example: http://www.evilgeniuschronicles.org/wordpre... (scroll to the bottom)
- Paul Reynolds
That application can be done just by Apple. If "we mortal"try to built it, I think they will reject it as happened to: http://almerica.blogspot.com/2008...
- funkyboy
from Posty
Photo Meme
Louis Gray, Yolanda, Iain Baker and 55 other people liked this
Paris... lemon and Guinness? O HAI MG
- Mona Nomura
backwards guinness thanks to photo booth
- MG Siegler
Ah! Here you are! :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
howdy ...
- johnpiercy
I thought that was an early Woody Allen for a mo ;)
- Sally Church
ola MG! Go serious expressions, I'm serious. Really.
- anna sauce
@sally - i'm not nearly as boney as Woody Allen -- yet.
- MG Siegler
MG, you remind of Hugh Grant ;)
- Hayk H.
@hayk, you're not the first person to say that - thanks, i like hugh grant.
- MG Siegler
@jason - yep. photo. booth.
- MG Siegler
Guys and Girls — let's make a room for posting personal photos!
- ideali
@3 23 - there is one (or several) sorry, didn't get the memo until too late...
- MG Siegler
good beer.
- Melissa
I'm pretending the shirt says "genius".
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
@parislemon and @mona thanks.
- ideali
Why... so... serious?
- Sprague D
@sprague - just watched that for about the 7th time
- MG Siegler
ha was also so going to say "why so serious"
- sean percival
wait, i missed the boat on this meme! we're just taking pictures? that's the meme? ok... easy enough....
- Veronica
Hey Mr. Paris Lemon dude! :)
- Susan Beebe
serious is the new black
- anna sauce
Love the frames!
- Andy DeSoto
New FriendFeed leaves beta, and one more thing: Dupe detection! - http://venturebeat.com/2008...
Christian Van Der Henst, Sam Harmon, Harrison Hoffman and 27 other people liked this
omg i love dup detection, takes away the social media echo! so hot
- sean percival
yeah, really great. i've said that before. will say it again. dupe!
- MG Siegler
hah! and i see it in action right below this post! nice!
- Veronica
look at the dup detected on this one. It is the is.gd url tweet. These guys are so cool.
- Rob Diana
New FriendFeed leaves beta, and one more thing: Dupe detection!
- l0ckergn0me
Related-post ping-pong comment
- Hutch Carpenter
@hutch, yeah that's kind of cool
- MG Siegler
'hot' - sean, did you mean that?
- WorldofHiglet
i get turned on by good algorithms, is that so wrong?
- sean percival
Every Single "Thats what she said" from The Office - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Nicholas Cifuentes, Matt Gillooly, Harrison Hoffman and 36 other people liked this
oh. yes.
- MG Siegler
the most fun I had all day
- Anthony Feint
I can't believe I haven't watched the US version of The Office
- Jonathan Beckett
Jonathan, if you've seen the BBC version first make sure to stick with the US version through the first season. They start off with a lot of the same jokes/situations but not as funny, IMO. But then they start to diverge on totally different story lines and it's very, very funny.
- Paul Reynolds
I love the ones when they side glance at the camera after they say it.
- Paul Reynolds
This is WIN, on a scale beyond human comprehension.
- Iain Baker
what happens when your mom joins facebook http://flickr.com/photos...
Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF), Jay, jcunwired and 12 other people liked this
This is too funny. I am so going to poke your mom on Facebook.
- Louis Gray
Hilarious!
- nilo ayson
from twhirl
LOL!!! Poke the lady everyone! (j/k) ;p
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
good luck with this, Drew! For some reason I cannot get over the slang implications of the word "poke". I do NOT want to be publicly poked by random strangers. Or even by platonic acquaintances. ewww, just ewww.
- Laura Norvig
First twitter, now facebook... OMG she's stalking you Drew!! Go clean your roooom!!
- Susan Beebe
I am going to create her account on FriendFeed and then sell it.
- Louis Gray
LOL ... check out the comments!
- Jay
The Internet Movie Database adds the “movie” part to the “database” part - http://venturebeat.com/2008...
Harrison Hoffman liked this
Best Buy accidentally sends out "Premier Black" emails to Reward Zone members - http://news.cnet.com/8301-13...
Harrison Hoffman liked this
I was excited at first when I saw the email but then I thought, "There is no way I spent enough at Best Buy for this."
- Harrison Hoffman
@Harrison - I used to, but now there really isn't one near me.
- MG Siegler
MG - I have one near me and go a decent amount, but a good chunk of my spending goes to Amazon too. My Best Buy spending certainly isn't anywhere near the rumored $5000 a year needed to qualify for Premier Black though.
- Harrison Hoffman
Aw, and I thought Best Buy liked me. I never get invited to the parties since the incident. *pout*
- Jay Cuthrell
Google Maps shows Missile over Utah - http://www.inquisitr.com/2805...
Harrison Hoffman, CW™, Kol Tregaskes and 11 other people liked this
:O!!!!
- Mona Nomura
If you look close you can see that it's just an airliner with dark wings
- Chris Lamping
if you look closely, you can see what look to be painted black wings. got a lot of buzz in march '07 http://www.parislemon.com/2007...
- MG Siegler
Ummm, no. Sidewinders aren't 90 feet long. See http://www.gearthblog.com/blog... for more...
- Warren
Warren, then what is it?
- Duncan Riley
It's an airliner with darkened wings (per the link)
- Jesse Stay
interesting.
- Duncan Riley
Oh and I thought it was superman, =D
- Ron
A Cruise crusin' over Utah....
- Mel Buckpitt
The geek's revenge: How did Seth Rogen become the hottest talent in Hollywood? - Features, Film & TV - The Independent - http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...
Matthew Horton, David Ward, Andy Kaufman and 11 other people liked this
Yeah, I also like the fact that Seth Rogen has a future as a comedy writer..
- George The Writer
New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin calls Gustav, "The mother of all storms", urging residents to evacuate. His tone is catastrophic. He says "You need to be scared, you need to get your butts out of New Orleans". It's the "Storm of the century"
James Tenniswood, sirishkumar, scott willeke and 20 other people liked this
Storm has grown from 300 miles to 900 miles in coverage in a matter of hours
- Bwana ☠
Watch live local NOLA news here: http://www.maroonspoon.com/wx...
- Bwana ☠
Here's hoping Mayor Nagin and everyone else involved handles this hurricane better than they did Katrina.
- ComicList
Mandatory evacuations begin tomorrow morning
- Bwana ☠
Even if he doesn't believe it's the storm of the century, he is saying the right things. There needs to be a serious sense of urgency.
- Louis Gray
My brother in law is already gone
- RAPatton
Louis: Agreed. Thank goodness history is not repeating itself
- Mona Nomura
Appears they're doing everything they can this time, which is good regardless of final landing point. For those that don't realize it, parts of New orleans are below sea level and very vulnerable ... seawall or not.
- Charlie Anzman
Mona, Louis - Whose to say that people are going to 'listen'?. There's always a fairly significant number that don't. That's my concern !
- Charlie Anzman
we are feeling it here in south florida ... massive storm
- Scott Moskowitz
Scott: You are in my thoughts..
- Mona Nomura
We're taking preparations in case it turns...
- Bwana ☠
Bwana :(
- Mona Nomura
Scott, where are you? I'm in Miami and things are fine here right now.
- Corie
Mayor Nagin's "900 mile footprint" is overstated. The center of the storm -- with hurricane force winds -- is about 270 miles wide right now. It's a bad one, though.
- Chris Baskind
The wind probability map puts tropical storm winds across the entire gulf. http://www.wunderground.com/tropica...
- Bwana ☠
It's better to be safe, than sorry Chris. I was in New Orleans after Katrina for the Red Cross. I do NOT want to see history repeating itself. The scents still lingers and I can still see the city when I close my eyes...
- Mona Nomura
Yeah, I know. It will get bumpy here. ;-) But he was comparing the hurricane-force footprint of Katrina to the total cloud shield of Gustav.
- Chris Baskind
...and it's growing. It just hit the warm waters of the Gulf so I expect it to grow
- Bwana ☠
That sucker is huge! OBTW Hannah is on its way too. http://www.weather.com/maps...
- Darrell Bell
from twhirl
Ah yup, watching Hannah closely too... the track has changed *again*... it's coming right for Florida on the current track
- Bwana ☠
Yeah...Miami is right in the middle of the cone of death & destruction: http://www.stormpulse.com/tropica...
- Corie
...but at least it's still a TS. Let's hope she stays that way.
- Corie
This is not looking good...at all...
- JA Castillo
Ever since Fay, I've taken a different stance on Tropical Storms. :/
- Bwana ☠
I know I'm nuts but I'd LOVE to fly with these guys someday http://www.hurricanehunters.com/
- Charlie Anzman
Heh, yeah, they fly right in the middle of these monster storms
- Bwana ☠
I'll experience the thrill through you Charlie :)
- Bwana ☠
http://friendfeed.com/e... - Live coverage from 4 NO stations.. the weather dude there was still saying they are looking at it possibly being a cat3 by landfall.. not great, but not as bad as a "storm of the century"
- Tim Hoeck
Tim, that link was posted earlier in the thread :)
- Bwana ☠
Also, Katrina was a Cat 3 at landfall. This storm looks stronger than Katrina. Going from tropical storm to Category 3 in a few hours is something to be concerned about
- Bwana ☠
This is so depressing *sighs*
- Gordon Swaby
Let's ope they get it right this time...
- Tim FitzGerald
As of the 8PM forecast, it's expected to be a Cat 4 at landfall...but this can change. It could get better, it could get worse http://www.wunderground.com/tropica...
- Bwana ☠
Ray Nagin ain't the brightest of the bunch but I think that he may be right.
- Andrew Fielding
from twhirl
Bwana - Believe it or not, we felt the 'last of Fay' today up here. Scott M - If you're feeling what you're describing (and obviously we're thinkin about you) can't imagine what Havana just went through. Good points here about Hanna. Carlos earlier referred to it as a Hurricane sandwich. My wife "You won't get me to move there either" ... Ughhh!
- Charlie Anzman
Even though it will weaken before it actually hits land it will be one hell of a storm.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
+ 1 Mathew
- Gordon Swaby
Gustav was 110 mph last night, 150 mph this morning, 140-170 mph now (gusts 170 mph) http://wunderground.com/tropica... Such a "deja vu". We were here in Maine at dance camp 3 years ago for Katrina (with no TV, and lots of New Orleans people), so we've done the 4-day hurricane watch internet-only pre-FriendFeed. Summize & Twitter are a good addition. 3 years ago, I had to hunt a lot harder for the key New Orleans bloggers with the good info. Summize rocks!
- Mitchell Tsai
I've been through 2 category 1 storms, and even they were incredibly scary. All in the threatened areas are definitely in my thoughts and prayers.
- Jesse Stay
38 Twitter accounts to follow for Gustav updates (Wayne Sutton's thread) http://friendfeed.com/e... See @MarkMayhew @urbanreporter @ithinkmedia @waynesutton @hillharper at Twitter
- Mitchell Tsai
Comparison with Hurricane Katrina (Wikipedia) http://friendfeed.com/e... (Movement Track) http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mitchell Tsai
thanks to all ... Mona - arigatoh gozaimasu ... I live on the ocean & my frames were just replaced - from Wilma damage (2005) so what we are seeing is coming off the ocean into the uncompleted frames ... I posted video on what its like to prepare here in south Florida at http://www.youtube.com/mad8in8... re:Fay ... The price of paradise - born & raised here - the anxiety of storms is something we all share (@corie allison, right) but we offer our support to anyone who has experienced natural weather event
- Scott Moskowitz
@adriano also the NOAA provides fairly comprehensive data - I posted the link previously & again today for those in south florida ... it is configurable to any location
- Scott Moskowitz
Advisor at ReadBurner, Inc. - http://www.linkedin.com/in...
Elliott Ng, Diana Valerini, Jay Wiegmann and 61 other people liked this
Congrats!
- Steve Rubel
congrats!!
- Morgan
Congrats Louis!
- Mike Fruchter
con'grats Louis. and all the best in this new assignment !
- Peter Dawson
Congrats!
- Candace
Great news!
- michael sean wright
Louis: Advice RB something here now. :D
- Erhan Erdogan
Very nice! And a good fit. :)
- Kevin C. Tofel
Keep up the great work Louis!
- Mike Reynolds
Awesome!
- Mitchell Tsai
Congratulations!
- Benedikt Koehler
Thanks, guys. It should be fun. I've posted more detail here: http://www.tinyurl.com/rbadvis...
- Louis Gray
Congratulations!
- Atul Arora
congrats Louis!!!
- (jeff)isageek
Louis, don't advise them to install viagra ads
- Allen Stern
Congrats!
- Internet's Tad
Congrats louis! I would imagine that readburner would be a super fun company to advise
- Eric Berlin
congrats
- Varun Mahajan
good to hear!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Congrats! Waiting a ReadBurner's raise
- Igor Poltavskiy
I expect to see great things out of Readburner because of this - congrats Louis
- Jesse Stay
good for your buddy! congrats!
- Rodney Rumford
Good luck Louis. Glad I made the RB chat.
- Charlie Anzman
congrats
- Kerem Ozkan
btw that was in reference to the call earlier ;)
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Had a drink for you tonight Louis, we'll see each other soon bro!
- drew olanoff
Congrats
- Marcello Del Bono
Congrats, Louis! I know you will bring a lot to the table there.
- Sarah Perez
Being a LinkedIn alum, its nice to see the LinkedIn favicon here on FF :) - Congrats!
- Mrinal Desai
Congrats Louis!! sorry for the delay ...i've been on vacation, bus travel and away from FF way too much!
- Susan Beebe
Congratulations, LG :)
- Mona Nomura
Sometimes, I can't fall asleep. It's like my brain is overclocked. Man, I'm sleepy.
Yolanda, Sarah Perez, Dobromir Hadzhiev and 12 other people liked this
Want to borrow my twins? They wouldn't mind attention if you're just going to stay up.
- Louis Gray
Yeah, I get like that too. One minute I'm tired as lead, I go to lay down in bed and then my brain starts thinking too much about whatever. The worst.
- Alex Scoble
Oh, I have a six year old and a two year old. They're like your twins, only more nuanced. : )
- Chris Brogan
My brain is that way most of the time. What I find helpful is to listen to something 1) intellectually stimulating -- so my brain will attend to it, rather than finding other things to think about, 2) which already I've heard -- so I can listen less attentively/won't be kept awake by the novelty of the discussion, and 3) which is relatively even tempo. Segments from the podcasts of Science Friday and Quirks & Quarks work well for me.
- Joanmarie
I get up and read. It's not worth the time, lying there wishing you could sleep. Reading clears my head, and after about 15-30 minutes, I'm usually ready to doze off.
- Mike Keliher
simple solution... breath, 8 seconds in, 4 seconds out, count them don't do think of anything else other than the count of your breath...sleep.Also good for combatting stress, puts your breathing in rhythm with your chi
- Bryan Thatcher
from twhirl
on steroids over here. relating.
- jeneane sessum
Think I'm right there with ya tonight ... or is it tomorrow??
- Charlie Anzman
+1: "my brain is overclocked" -- human and computer ideals mashed together
- .LAG liked that
Melatonin is amazing, i had insomnia and it worked like a charm... you can get it in the vitamin section of CVS.
- Damien Dong
from twhirl
Never heard of Ratatat? Ok, get your headphones, or speakers (no crappy laptop speakers) and crank this: http://krose.muxtape.com/
Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕, Shawn Poulson, Brian Ries and 11 other people liked this
That's some solid music. Just bought two albums.
- Daniel Miessler
Love Ratatat but muxtape drives me nuts without any volume control. I can't stand having to adjust main system volume.
- ·[▪_▪]·
Mona fed 'em to Twitter and FriendFeed a while ago. :) I keep telling you: she's better than Digg.
- l0ckergn0me
yeah they are good, but would rock in a cool mix. A lot to take in a singel stream
- Bryan Thatcher
from twhirl
Love the style, there has been (luckily) quite a few similar bands with great sounds like this catching on.
- Andrew Hyde
m-audios, hooked to my laptop, thet have a pretty sweet sound for the price.
- Bryan Thatcher
from twhirl
I've always liked Ratatat. MC Chris and MC Frontalot turned me on to them, I think.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
mona rulez
- Ryan
Never heard of Ratatat? Where have you been, Kevin? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Love me some ratatat.
- Brian Ries
I think it's lame that Apple emails you a receipt for 'free' iphone applications... why?
19Kilo, Eamonn Carey, Nathan Howell and 10 other people liked this
LOL I just got one of those emails. Maybe their trying to stay honest incase some one complaines for getting charged for a free app.
- Colide81 (James)
I get them every time an app is upgraded too. Odd.
- ·[▪_▪]·
When you download a free app it does say "Purchasing", must be some lame accounting deal, or maybe it's not a lame accounting deal and we're all ignorant. :)
- Ryan
Word. That's only like one conditional test (if price of all items == 0 then don't send confusing receipt)!
- Bryan Landers
so the iPhone CFO can justify his job
- Ouriel Ohayon
accounting, every free app is probably an offer in their catalog with a price of zero
- Ryan
@ouriel LOL I like your idea.
- Colide81 (James)
They do that with other itunes stuff too.
- Tony Speer
are app creators charged for server space/bandwidth?
- sedgewick
@sedgewick no. free apps are hosted for free.
- Hannes BrandstätterMüller
from twhirl
Be happy. That means that there is some legal accountability even for the free stuff. Way too little of that.
- Vincent van Wylick
When Gmail comes back I'm going to send a mass mail to every one of my contacts that it's back up.
Czar, Internet's Tad, Dobromir Hadzhiev and 8 other people liked this
its back for me
- Allen Stern
me too, but for now I'll just use Friendfeed :)
- Erick Schonfeld
Still down. I think Allen had them shut down my account.
- Louis Gray
Mine still down too. I would use Yahoo Mail like Allen says but I forgot the password and I think it sends it to my Gmail to restore it :)
- MG Siegler
okay, now i think it's back. i'll stop acting like ron burgundy in his glass case of emotion now.
- MG Siegler
mg - that might be the funniest thing i've heard all day
- Allen Stern
louis, dont post any screenshots, mmkay?
- Allen Stern
Still down as of 3:07 PST
- Mike Doeff
That's probably what took it down in the first place :)
- CynicRoot
down as of 6:18pm, (though kevin fox's tip did do the trick :)
- Will DeLuca
via @ev, @allaboutgeorge, @jessamyn: If your gmail is broken, you can use the HTML view: https://mail.google.com/mail...
Harrison Hoffman, Aaron Myers, Matthew Wayne Selznick and 3 other people liked this
Good call
- Didi Chanoch
yeah, not working to reply though apparently.
- Veronica
No workie for me :(
- Jim Goldstein
Or, apparently, to read messages. Only the main html page seems to be up
- Didi Chanoch
https://mail.google.com/a/<yourdomain>/h/ for gapps works as well (at least for me)
- Naor Mark
replace /mail/ with /a/domain.com/ for google apps
- Judi Sohn
Duncan Riley is a Fox!
Andrew, Bob Blunk, susan mernit and 23 other people liked this
Wow, Duncan, you look much different in your videos. http://www.socialmedian.com/duncanr...
- Louis Gray
from email
Whoa. Duncan is one nice looking chick. I always thought he was a dude.
- Candace
Rowrrrrr
- Mo Kargas
I'd hit it.
- Hao Chen
Will I look like that if I move to Australia?
- Jesse Stay
Err, that's not the Duncan I met
- Bret Treasure
*This* Duncan Riley http://friendfeed.com/duncanr... ?
- Pete Delucchi
Pete and Bret: Before you get carried away, it's a SocialMedian quirk. We're just razzing Duncan a bit.
- Louis Gray
is it the elf ears that make him look different?
- Morgan
Id hit it, wait wut? edit: Ha! Hao totally beat me to it.
- Geoff Schultz
Not all Australians look like that on socialmedian, I bore a surprising resemblance to Oprah.
- Nick Cowie
Noticed that too. Reality ... you KNOW how many people (that don't know him) will follow him (mostly guys) because of that. Not sexist. Just real. The Inquisitr has a whole new audience !
- Charlie Anzman
Duncan's hot
- Jason Goldberg
Wait - I thought Duncan was on ABC recently - he was on Fox too?
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
I'm TOTALLY going to use that as the graphic for the podcast.
- Cyndy
Social media surgery:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
As Paris would say, "It's hot!"
- Larry Kless
from twhirl
I Think Polling Would Be a Great Feature to Share to FriendFeed - http://www.friendfeed.com/louisgr...
david beckwith, Dobromir Hadzhiev, Rakesh and 47 other people liked this
Rather than asking direct questions, why not have a "Poll" option with multiple choice answers? That seems like a logical extension of "Share Something". "Share a Poll".
- Louis Gray
Even better -- how about a plug-in architecture, so we can add our own modules?
- Dave Winer
Hmm, that might work for some things but be pretty limited in others. I like having the discussions and tangents pop up...
- Her Lindsay-ness
I could see a polling method where you answer the multiple choice question AND comment. That way there is a simple numerical result, but also a discussion around the topic.
- Kevin L
@Chris, you win for getting it first, And @klecu, I would assume commenting would still be active.
- Louis Gray
It would be a lot better than going through 50+ comments all saying Yes! No! Yes! Yes! No!
- Sam Pullara
Agree.
- Jeff P. Henderson
How would this work? Would the poll answers replace Like in the set of options, and be tallied the Likes are currently?
- j1m
hmm. i dunno.....one thing i like about FF is it follows the KISS principle. Keep It Simple, Stupid. :) It's not trying to do 402 things. It's clean web activity aggregation plus comments...i love it just the way it is. (Well, some sexier filtering and/or the "close friends" item discussed earlier would be cool)
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
J1m, I was thinking an embedded rectangular box with horizontal bar charts above the comments, which displayed post-voting, with an option to reveal. They are common elsewhere. Likes would be retained.
- Louis Gray
Can you hook up the FriendFeed guys with me? If they want to integrate SocialToo an API is about to be launched for just this. Not just that, but they could just integrate with RSS for a person's "polls" and have those show up automatically in FriendFeed for each new poll.
- Jesse Stay
@dave_winer, can you elaborate on how you see the plugin architecture working? I'd like to be sure that's covered in the new SocialToo polling API
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, the FriendFeed guys watch the site fairly well, and I don't have any more pull than do you over their roadmap.
- Louis Gray
FriendFeed guys, contact me if you're interested in this right away. I can have it ready for you tomorrow, and it's just an RSS feed and flash widget you'd need to pull in.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
@louis heh - sounds like me and Facebook. I get that same question for Facebook all the time and I give the same answer :-)
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
If FriendFeed had a vote we could vote if there should be a vote in FF...
- Jemm
Great idea Louis!
- Mitchell Tsai
great idea
- Rodney Rumford
I like the options of multiple choice polls and surveys. It would be great if we could have both.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I agree. Polling would be great.
- Rutger Blom
Integration to Polldaddy?? http://www.polldaddy.com/poll...
- Patrick Sullivan Jr.
Survey integration for FF and Facebook seems like the way to go. It gives both simple poling and complexity as needed.
- Pratik Patel
I like this idea! I also want VOTING STARS for posts so we can see how much buzz it generates and who likes an item and to what degree it is liked.
- Susan Beebe
Got bugs? Get your iPhone 2.0.1 software now - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Harrison Hoffman, Robert Seidman and Dan Liebke liked this
Good news: the backup of the Apps files seems about 50x faster after the upgrade. Bad news: it still insists on backing stuff up anytime you redock/sync -- even if nothing has changed. WTF?
- Robert Seidman
I'm seeing the same thing.
- MG Siegler
A Really Useful Way to Take Notes - http://www.fastcompany.tv/video...
Jesper Kjær Hansen, Shelly Weiss, Michael Hocter and 29 other people liked this
Evernote rocks. This is the demo that got me turned onto it.
- Robert Scoble
It looks like a really helpful service that I will check out immediately. Thanks for a great interview, Robert.:-)
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I love it too, but my iPhone app crashes constantly.
- Veronica
thanks, i'll give it a try!
- idnan
sadly enough i find the evernote interface to be rather clunky and failing more often than not on simple pages. :(
- Nicole Simon
*cough* OneNote *cough*
- John Denver
Has seemed very clunky to me as well.
- Andy DeSoto
I like Evernote too. My problem is that I keep migrating systems - and that seems to defeat a major purpose --unifying all my notes in one place. The most comprehensive and well designed note-sysem (for mac) I've seen and still use is Journler (and its surprisingly still free). I also use 'sidenote' for quick instance access notes. Seems there should be a differentiation between note 'capture' (evernote, sidenote, etc) and note storage/organizing.
- Leif Hansen
Robert, I shared with Jim Robinson too
- Richard Binhammer
I tried Evernote on an iMac (OS X 10.5.4) and had lots of trouble getting screen captures or photo captures to work. Also found that I had to close and reopen the app to get it to display new notes made from screen caps, even when the screen cap actually worked.
- Dimitrios Diamantaras
evernote is cool - i simply forget to use it everytime ;) as soon as i have bookmarked something interesting, i also forget about it thesame time...
- Dieter Schwarz
the iPhone client needs to cache notes locally - at least some useful subset. there's nothing worse than relying on a notes app to store timely info and then not being able to call it up when you critically need it.
- Jon Price
Gahh Robert! I had been going back and forth between OneNote and Evernote last month and finally decided on OneNote. Then I watched your video and now I'm reconsidering Evernote again. Why do you have to make my life more difficult? :-P
- Mohit
really interesting video! Love the screen capture and ocr functionality.
- Randy Ksar
love EVERNOTE been using it for a while now...
- laleh
I was a beta tester and have been hooked ever since. The user interface interaction between desktop client and web service is great.
- Mikael Pittam
from twhirl
The recognition of the handwriting is amazing
- sdfx
The one feature it's really missing is being able to stitch photos together - Specifically, panoramas of whiteboards.
- Chris Weiss
from twhirl
the desktop client is even worse than the web interface. I am looking into onenote again, especially for integration with outlook.
- Nicole Simon
i am using an amazing mac app called notebook. much better and much cleaner than evernote.
- Kfir Pravda
if I can't edit the note on my iPhone, it is of no use to me.
- Robert Hafer
Onenote is a fantastic tool. Someplace between a notepad and a wiki. It has great sync tools, really good sharability and collaberation abilities and good integration. I like evernote mostly as a web clipping tool (it does that better than OneNote) but thats about it.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
Onenote is very nice, but it doesn't run on my Mac and iPhone.
- Robert Scoble
I have loved this product ever since I heard about it (a few months ago). I can take notes from anywhere on any computer, and the iPhone integration is especially nice. I just used it today for a site survey (had to take pictures using my phone and comment on it).
- Peter Ghosh
I just use plain text files for most purposes, and save my images in iPhoto. I'm still not getting the value from these note-taking applications you young people go on about. And that "hop hip" music you like to listen to. And get off my lawn!
- Mitch Wagner
been playing with onenote, yoono and evernote. evernote wins.
- Christian Anderson
The reason I like Evernote? I can use it on my mobile phone. We go to the bookstore a lot and it's perfect for adding urls to cool things I find in magazines (but don't want to buy the magazine to remember) and for noting books I might want to buy later, or jotting down ideas for projects I find in books or mags, or doing research (I have been looking at purchasing a camera... used it go to through the latest camera mags and jot down models that got good reviews and what the interesting features were).
- Her Lindsay-ness
@Scoble; It'd be great if you could interview the OneNote team about what they're doing to challenge products like Evernote, especially in terms of online and mobile access of notes. Just an idea.
- Mohit
They dont have Tiger OSX support :-(
- Karthick R
Hey Scoble - I've been debating getting a paid Evernote account. Your interview has pushed me over the fence and I'm going to go for it after hearing some of the features they have planned to enhance it with. Just thought you might like to know. :)
- Her Lindsay-ness
The case of the vanishing iPhone apps: A security concern? http://is.gd/1evM
Harrison Hoffman and edythe liked this
Nice to see you employing the mystery novel headline strategy as well MG. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13...
- Harrison Hoffman
@harrison - i need a good hardy boys picture :)
- MG Siegler
Can New Media Be Taught in School? http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... not my best writing but intersting topic and discussion, I think
MaryAnn Chick Whiteside and Harrison Hoffman liked this
I think it can, but I don't think it should be taught without media literacy.
- cecily
Part and parcel of new media is the transparency plus wide open access to materials that ethics as well as personal preferences and biases would be inherently monitored and subject to scrutiny far beyond that of traditional one so there is no need to dwell too much on teaching these. Much as schools would love to produce graduates with 'ideal' attitudes, there might just be cases where...
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- Alain Benedict Yap
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
Part and parcel of new media is the transparency plus wide open access to materials that ethics as well as personal preferences and biases would be inherently monitored and subject to scrutiny far beyond that of traditional one so there is no need to dwell too much on teaching these. Much as schools would love to produce graduates with 'ideal' attitudes, there might just be cases where...
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- Alain Benedict Yap
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
Agree that j-schools can teach the concept of social media but it is experience in the private sector that tends to be the most effective method of learning. It will be interesting to see what types of real-world exposure j-schools offer their students so that they have the necessary skills for job placement upon graduation.
- Alexandra Wharton
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
A Webware writer wants to know: What are your favorite productivity web apps? (can include Facebook and iPhone)
Harrison Hoffman liked this
Basecamp keeps me on track with work stuff.
- Caleb Elston
Gmail, Instapaper, Google Reader
- Steve Rubel
Remember The Milk.
- Bill Barol
Things. (now with iPhone app) http://www.culturedcode.com/things...
- Dylan Parker
NetShare, the iPhone tethering app, is in fact back in the app store. http://is.gd/1bma
misca mihaela, Matt Craven, Gavin and 4 other people liked this
I downloaded it this time. will test out later
- MG Siegler
The funny thing is that even though it is back up, perhaps for an uncertain period of time, I didn't rush to buy it. I don't know how well EDGE will hack it for tethering.
- Harrison Hoffman
I can't grab it right now...at work :(
- Justin Korn
I'm not finding it. Search yields nothing.
- David Risley
@david - sorry yeah updated with that too - it's direct link only for now http://phobos.apple.com/WebObje...
- MG Siegler
Got it. Followed the instructions with my MBP and iPhone 3G. No luck getting it to work.
- Jeff Bonforte
Adam and Harrison Hoffman liked this
Not sure if I want to know why your jeans were in the freezer.
- Harrison Hoffman
I sat on a wad of gum while in Portland and had them in the freezer overnight so I could scrap it off. I wanted to make sure I wouldn't forget them, so I set a reminder....
- Josh
After a month in europe everything seems like a bargain in nyc. A two stop cross town cab ride is less than $10
Harrison Hoffman and michael sean wright liked this
wait a little bit more... gas prices will equalize everything
- A.T.
@silpol. no they won't. you think gas is cheaper in Europe?
- berkay
@berkay I think that gas is unsustainable cheap in US and it needs correction towards more realistic level, e.g. like in Europe. The actual development of circumstances in US tells me they go correct way.
- A.T.
hmm. @silpol, you may be right, everything is relative. Don't think people in US would agree that gas is cheap right now, considering past prices. @gregory why should gas prices should change relative prices between US and Europe? US being cheaper is due to exchange rate. price of dinner in NY vs Paris did not change much in last 7 years in their own currency, but now Paris dinner costs almost twice as much in dollars, hence NY feels cheap
- berkay
How much does it cost to fill 40 liter gas tank in US? For me it (95E) cost last time about 60€ ~= $93 here in Finland. Now prices have dropped a bit, though..
- Jemm
Expensive over here for those heh! Try Chile - there you pay hardly anything but you share with others going to a similar area. Government here should force that to help with the environment!
- Steven Livingstone-Pérez
from twhirl
I totally know what you mean. London some things feel like 3 times as much as they do here. It's slim there's still the opportunity for most of us to go out there. Plus, immigration laws are getting stricter for Americans traveling in Europe.
- Sarah Austin
The day the USA forces carpooling is the day I turn in my US Citizenry card.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Message from Flickr: "If your photo has disappeared from the pool, it's probably because you stick figure did not appear to be in peril" LOL
Harrison Hoffman liked this
Care to share the stick figure in question?
- Harrison Hoffman
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