I'm guessing you're referring to live music and not your ring? :) - Dan Hsiao
@ Dan Hsiao -- ha, didn't even think of that at first read. Must need more coffee. - Jason Silverstein
I assumed he meant the piece of jewelery, but now that I think about it "Wedding Band" would be a cool name for a band that payed weddings. - Brian Johns
Or, we could all be wrong and he could be talking about a new video game... A new version of "Rock Band" where all the songs are schmaltzy slow covers of boring music... - Brian Johns
Heh, yes I was talking about my ring. I would have said 'wedding ring' but I thought it could be interpreted as getting Rachel's ring. The 'other' wedding band is already acquired, and I was seriously tempted to learn to play guitar or base for just one song so I could play 'live action wedding band' but apparently frets and stuff are harder to master than buttons. - Kevin Fox
Brian, I think that is an awesome plan for a video game. there should be points for knowing which requests to work into your set and which ones not to. and score for how many people you can get dancing, and negative points if you piss off the bride!! - Rachel L Fisher
“interesting to watch certain person use ff - they post a link to their goods with a "discuss" link but they never participate in the discussion - interesting!”
Allen knows Sean knows but knows not to say who knows because those who knows shouldn't talk about what they know or who they know but let the discussion dictate who knows. - Allen Stern
what's interesting is that by doing it the way this person is, it makes them appear active even though they aren't really active... would you call this type of use spam? - Allen Stern
It's all about the famewhoring, Allen. And brand-building. I hope to someday get to the point where I can ignore everyone and bask in my awesomeness. ;) - Cyndy
Allen, you're describing a fair few A-listers here :-) - Duncan Riley
a search of the word "discuss" reveals who allen is talking about... - MG Siegler
And they're always links to a certain product of a certain someone... Friendfeed should just put nofollow on said links to fuck with aforementioned certain someone. - Mark Trapp
oh duncan - i need to do more investigating - im not talking about pulling in feeds, all of the defaults do that :) - im talking about something a bit different - in an attempt to keep the story on top and keep moving to the top - its interesting marketing technique i guess - Allen Stern
traffic = value, this stuff = traffic, rinse and repeat across various platforms. its not enough traffic compared to SE traffic, but it keeps the stats looking good/fresh - sean percival
it wouldn't surprise me if some people were trying to manipulate things, re-adding content etc to keep it fresh + on top. They will eventually get caught though - Duncan Riley
allen, ff is totally great for what they call "bumping" on message boards. :) - sean percival
one of the people I blocked has a handfull of friends that likes everything he does. No biggie. I just blocked all of them. - Robert Scoble
Ya you blocked me Scoble! (for other liking related reasons). I have noticed I get a few people who will go through and like everything I do over a few hours. One reason could be to get exposure/presence with my friends and in turn more subscriptions. These wonky social media marketing techniques are both strange and interesting. - sean percival
Interesting. I went to the "Everyone" tab, searched on "discuss" and found Calacanis. Funny, I don't subscribe to him. I don't find the constant marketing interesting enough. - Robert Scoble
See, this is why what Jason suggested makes sense. If every add or bookmark of the same URL were to be aggregated into one conversation, you'd see a hell of a lot less of this type of manipulation. FF seems designed to do exactly what we're talking about here. - Cyndy
Sean - I know all about the bump - remember that FF is just a messageboard so bumping is what it is - except this is web 2.0 bumping :) - Allen Stern
Allen - Exception rather than the rule on FF from my experience. Interesting to see Robert not subscribing to Calacanis (for the same reason many others don't). I used to block Robert (before FF on Twitter) until I realized that in every 5th post or so, he really does bring something interesting and thought provoking to the table. 2) Cyndy ... you're already a rock star. 3) Jason - Shouldn't you guys be in the same room? - Charlie Anzman
Charlie, we are at opposite ends of the same couch. The couple that meets online stays online. ;) - Cyndy
Yeah, we are in the same room... Vive La Social Networking! - Jason Carreira
next week jason will be on seesmic with cyndy telling him what to say HAHA - Allen Stern
Not sure which I like better. Cyndy's articles or Jason's comments here. Allen - Need 3 stickers for my cats before Charlie 'and his staff' appear on Seesmic later this week ... Matt Cutts syndrome at the moment. Cat on keyboard ... funny ... at little difficult to type ... but funny. - Charlie Anzman
dude i can totally send you stickers for your cats - just email me your addy - Allen Stern
If it wasn't for Twitter and FF, I don't think Jason and I would converse at all. ;) - Cyndy
Noiseriver just added the link-aggregation cindy is talking about. That might be the functionality that gets me to be a regular user of noiseriver. Tired of certain people adding links that are clearly being discussed in other strings not started by them. Puling all of those conversations together might eliminate the incentive to link spam - Christian Anderson via fftogo
It's not about public perception: it's about pagerank. Using noiseriver does nothing to solve the problem. - Mark Trapp
Geesh ... I have the 'noise' turned up and couldn't find the thread .... Allen - anzman @ gmail Cyndy - another few years. Barb's already in the other room out cold. She'll probably ping me in an hour or so. 27 years. Whatever works :) Passing FYI since I think this is still Allen's thread ... I'll be in NY mid-next mo (LI - east) for anyone that wants to meet-up. Planning to spend a few days. Thinkin' North Fork. Not sure yet - Charlie Anzman
I feel guilty when a tweet provokes conversation then I can't follow up. - Eric Schlissel via twhirl
Was just there (Phantom with family) last week. Was way overdue. Was GREAT to see to the 'New York comeback'. Tourists all over and .... The 'waterfalls' were pretty neat too. http://www.nycwaterfalls.org/ - Charlie Anzman
i dont know charlie - i dont see the big deal about these waterfalls - use the money to fix something instead :) - Allen Stern
It made a hit outside the city with the 'artsy' set ... My daughter among them. Checked calendar Aug 17, 18. Definitely LI east end this time. Only 3 hrs from the city .. we'll 'connect' someday. (Your videos are 2 funny :) - Charlie Anzman
@E -- I'm pretty militant about my pizza--By any means necessary!!! Yes ANY! ;) I like the heart, but I'm not feeling the toppings on this one. I think I see sausage up in the mix, and I am so not about that--sorry Mona N. I hope we can still be FriendFeed Friends. I know you luvs your bacon. - Anna Haro
Magic: The Gathering: "This game is like a form of crack that I'm immune to." ---haha! Not me, i was not immune, but after a few hundred dollars spent, i wished i was! Oh, the good old days. This list is very nostalgic.... - Nick
weird that there's no separate wikipedia page for freeze tag - j1m
My favorite memory of Magic: the Gathering was selling my cards for over a grand in the late 90s. - Akiva Moskovitz
"Strip Poker (and variants) Sexual 1991 18" - too much detail - Benjamin Golub
Ben'sComment.Append("Pics or it didn't happen") - Yuvi
Dark Castle was the first game I owned. Loved it! - Evan Parker
Well, this is a stretch, but the original Apple ads were done by Chiat/Day who had a reputation for pirating clients away from other agencies. I worked there for a brief stint and do have an Innovate or Die t-shirt to prove it. - AJ Kohn
Possible message against Apple? Some marketing scheme? Or..(another stretch) we already know the iPhone has been unlocked..maybe something to do with that? - Candace Holly
A few weeks back I predicted that FF would overtake Twitter in users in less than one year. Compete's new June numbers are out now. Last month FF grew 33.7% while Twitter grew 5.4%. Assuming a static month over month growth rate, based on June's numbers, FF would have more users than Twitter in a little over 6 months. - Thomas Hawk via Bookmarklet
Interesting - For me, Twitter and FriendFeed still serve different purposes and that seems to be the case for a lot. So while many Twitter-ers may adopt FriendFeed - I don't see it completely surpassing it in 6 months.... - George Smith
I'm guessing the overlap in the user bases should be pretty high. So even though the rate of growth of Twitter may be much lower, i have a feeling most of the people who joined FF recently are already on Twitter. Till we have a comparable number, it may not be a completely true analysis to say people are preferring FF *over* twitter, would it? I too believe they serve different purposes and should co-exist. - Parth Awasthi
They may have different purposes but they are definitely competing for the same attention width. - Brian Sullivan
George, I agree, I have them both open right now, is that weird? - Cody Heitschmidt
Certainly FF is siphoning off some of Twitter's growth. I think though that FF is much more addictive and multifaceted than Twitter and is the stronger momentum play right now. If I were running a hedge fund (I'm not) and these were both publicly traded companies (they're not of course) I'd be tempted to short Twitter and use the money to buy long shares in FF. - Thomas Hawk
This chart also likely corresponds with the amount of Scoble's Friend Feed sticker giveaways :) - Brian Ries
Thomas - Thanks for your thoughts. When twitter has negative growth three consecutive months we will have another facet to discuss. - Russellreno
I'm with George Smith on this one. This is not an either or. These are 2 good tools and I'm sticking with both for now. BUT, with every Fail Whale I see, my doubts grow. - shelisrael1
The initial growth of FriendFeed, but if you look at the total volume of users of both services, FF has a ways to go before it's going to overtake Twitter. - Brandon Wood
when either gets to 10m users they we will have a story - David Henderson via twhirl
i see the need for both but would like to see friends collapsed as 1 set - Lee Kent
we'll know these companies have made in when all the good people have left, the comments are full of pr0n spam and your mum asks you for your username... - Barry de la Rosa
I think one of the main reasons for more adoptiong is the ability to have a tru conversation, without having to hunt for messages every few seconds. I think it would be great if they do some more features to make it easier - Shivanand Velmurugan via twhirl
comparing month on month growth rates isn't really that helpful here. obviously the doubling time for FF is going to be less than Twitter because it is starting from a smaller base. In terms of users/month Twitter has been growing faster than FF, something I expect Twitter are pretty happy with given their recent problems. - Samuel Bostock
Samuel, that's what people said last month. Since then FF's growth has only gotten stronger though while Twitter's has gotten weaker. month on month growth rates certainly are anything but accurate forecasting tools. Still, perhaps FF will eclipse Twitter's growth even *more* next month. - Thomas Hawk
I never imagined this would have this fast - Akshay Dodeja
any idea on total user #'s? Twitter's surely saturated - John Cozen
The big question in my mind is when will the FF graph flatten out? Trees don't grow to the sky and every site / service will start to plateau at some point. Either way, this will be fun to watch. - Mike Doeff
Just imagine how fast they would grow if they incorporated Facebook status and Myspace content. Right now they are siphoning from a small pond, Twitter and the microblogging networks. There is a lot more opportunity for growth if those two are brought into the fold. - Andrew Burd
I don't think it's a shock that FF growth rate is high. Twitter broke new ground. Most FFers are Twitters also -- and Twitter was probably the first mircoblog we've all used. Making the switch is easier. - Rob Williams
Everyone I know is Switching to FF from Twitter - this is real buzz I think it will overtake Twitter. - Luke Jeffrey Smith
uuhh.. is *no one* here discussing how compete.com gets it's data? vitally important.. - Barbara K. Baker
I'm seeing much less response on Twitter, and I hope it's not because I've gotten boring- I think the conversations are on FF. - Brian Carter
I definitely spend more time on FriendFeed these days than I do on Twitter, even though I have orders of magnitude more friends on Twitter. I would say there's not much competition there! - Scott Jarkoff
Doesn't really mean much as FF's growth will still be playing catchup to Twitters current capacity. - Stuart Forsyth
Its interesting to watch. But there is still the simplicity of Twitter that keeps many who have grown accustomed to a society that offers crap service as the universal standard. - Curtis Cross via twhirl
It depends which way you look at this data. I'd rather have Twitter's curve. - John McCrea
It sure is funny to watch the these bloggers push FriendFeed, like they are getting paid or something! - Thomas Capote via twhirl
JMc - Plaxo is growing faster than FF, and I have not seen any hype around Plaxo. - Russellreno
but still, i can't help but think FF is rising BECAUSE of twitter. people come here to check it out. if they stay, great. if not, they've still got the numbers. right now it's like a few months ago when everyone was talking/blogging about @twubble and other "twitter-pack" type apps and bots. i had a HUGE follower surge. same shit, different month. - Hillary Hartley
Russellreno: It's because we chose private sharing and conversations for mainstream users around circles of family, friends, etc. - John McCrea
Clearly, though, I use both services (and really like them both). As the British would say "horses for courses." (Different horses are better for different courses. - John McCrea
John - Agreed. My Plaxo invites come from friends that would not find FF useful. Just the same, when the Twitter v FF conversation comes up Plaxo isn't mentioned although it is tracking with FF. - Russellreno
I've been watching Compete's 'Velocity' tracking between FriendFeed and Twitter. It has grown exponentially. I am definitely convinced at this point that Twitter is to Friendster like FriendFeed is to Facebook. I only wish I could buy stock... - Philip Ryan Johnson
In the realm of web statistics, there are three numbers that are great to use if you want to tell lies.
They are:
1) RSS subscriber numbers
2) Facebook app install numbers
3) Follower numbers on Twitter, Friendfeed, Tumblr, etc - dave mcclure via Bookmarklet
Great: rooms, auto-throttling - Not so great: FF posts take up so much room, less posts are visible at the same time - Can't wait for Seesmic support! - Garrido via twhirl
Loic - First impressions are fantastic - Ed Dale via twhirl
its there and update feature to twhirl or do I need to download and re-install? - rambn
Hey - I like it! Could you add support for opening a new tab when right clicking links? I hate how it overrides my current page! - Zach Landes via twhirl
I really like the new FF features. Can't wait to see Seesmic added to the mix. - Dana Franks via twhirl
I'm ready to say that this is the first version of Twhirl with FF that I am willing to use, actually. - J. Phil via twhirl
Tony, Seesmic is coming in a few weeks. Morgan thanks, Garrido it is coming, Ed thanks, rambn yes auto update close it you will see, Zachary working on that, Dana me too!, Marco yes Marco rocks, Josiah thanks, Dave it is not in this one, thanks Sam, Danish and Tom - Loic Le Meur via twhirl
I am a big fan of Twhirl and it keeps getting better - Mark Nassal via twhirl
WOWOWOWOW ... You guys are putting your release schedule on steriods! code monkies!!! I like all the new feature improvements! keep up the good work! - Susan Beebe
This caused me to dump alert thingy even though there are differences. Always liked Twhirl too bad it has picked up some hiccups from Twitter which is already the meme of legend in these parts... - Mark Forman
I'm in! This will def cause me to use friend feed more. - Evan Travers via twhirl
This is a nice feature. Just upgraded to the new version to use this. But your blog is never unblocked by the Great Firewall here. - Jianjun Zhang via twhirl
Comments inline work well, but make it hard to keep a track of whats going on. I guess thats more of a FF issue tho, nested conversations are much more complex than the flat twitterlike comments. - Steve Mactaggart via twhirl
I guess I'm getting used to it - without doubt, it's an improvement, thnx Loic and Marco - Garrido via twhirl
and try the pic share feature, it takes a few seconds to do what really looks like like a short blog post, a pic, a text and a link et voila! - Loic Le Meur
Loic, great update to twhirl, clean interface, more intuitive - Ralph Poole via twhirl
Nice update! Is there any shortcuts for Twhirl?? - Alex Sauceda via twhirl
still trying to get my head around friend feed in twhirl.... - djp via twhirl
Still not like the interface. Still not see the reason why we need a specific app for friendfeed. Some stuff could be sorted via a easy firefox extension e.g. notification. - Benjamin Kohler via twhirl
I'm not sure about this, but my main concern.. why does my FF feed in Twhirl look almost completely different than what I see on the web? Am I the only one seeing this? - felix
Love the new changes - a few issues still with the commenting. It remembers the past comment when I write a new one instead of clearing the box, and it also clears out my comment box every time the feed refreshes. - Jesse Stay via twhirl
Nice work! Loving the improvements! - Lon via twhirl
well - i´m still not sure, if I should prefer AlertThingy or Twhirl ;) - Dieter Schwarz via twhirl
Really digging the reduced memory usage. Before twhirl would growto over 500MB and now it's pretty steady at 150MB or so. Thanks! - Jauder Ho via twhirl